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| 07:50.10 | rob_w-cgi | hey all |
| 07:50.28 | _law_ | morning |
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| 08:47.13 | XorA | morning |
| 08:48.06 | _law_ | XorA, morning |
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| 08:54.07 | bedboi | hi all |
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| 09:23.18 | bedboi | i'm thinking to add one feature for gpe-sketchbook |
| 09:23.24 | bedboi | drawing on a pixbuf |
| 09:23.33 | koen | pixbug |
| 09:23.39 | bedboi | ehehe |
| 09:23.53 | bedboi | something like gournal |
| 09:24.10 | bedboi | i need it for the lesson i'll take the next semester |
| 09:24.24 | bedboi | i have a tablet pc |
| 09:25.08 | bedboi | btw i'm not yet sure about how compositing layers work |
| 09:34.30 | bedboi | i'll ask florian |
| 09:34.51 | bedboi | iirc he is the only contributor this year |
| 09:35.07 | koen | and luc |
| 09:35.24 | bedboi | yep |
| 09:35.30 | bedboi | is luc around? |
| 09:36.01 | koen | ~seen luc |
| 09:36.04 | ibot | luc <~luc@cs78246193.pp.htv.fi> was last seen on IRC in channel #gpe, 210d 14h 9m 57s ago, saying: 'hey florian'. |
| 09:36.04 | koen | ~seen luc_ |
| 09:36.05 | ibot | luc_ <n=luc@30-5-73.wireless.csail.mit.edu> was last seen on IRC in channel #gpe, 65d 12h 42m ago, saying: 'koen, hi from Tommi'. |
| 09:36.11 | bedboi | ok |
| 09:36.13 | bedboi | not really |
| 09:42.52 | bedboi | maybe i understood where to hack |
| 09:43.15 | bedboi | btw it would be really cool to make a sketchbook widget |
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| 09:49.01 | pH5 | hi florian_hrz |
| 09:50.02 | pH5 | koen: gpe-contacts_cvs needs libcontactsdb |
| 09:50.20 | koen | ugh |
| 09:50.28 | koen | my CVSDATE didn't pick that up |
| 09:50.38 | koen | could you add that? |
| 09:50.49 | pH5 | koen, mine is 20051211. ok, I'll try |
| 09:53.17 | florian_hrz | good morning |
| 09:55.33 | pb_ | florian_hrz: good morning |
| 09:56.30 | koen | hey florian_hrz |
| 09:57.01 | florian_hrz | It ate all my memory and caused several segfaults during a lingle sync. |
| 09:57.04 | pH5 | hi pb_ |
| 09:57.17 | koen | hey pb_ |
| 09:57.42 | florian_hrz | pb_: hi |
| 09:57.44 | koen | florian_hrz: I also see occasional segfaults when using multisync-cli |
| 09:58.03 | koen | should be easy to fix with dtrace for linux :) |
| 10:05.48 | XorA | koen: any news on a buildable minimo? |
| 10:06.08 | koen | dougt should have pushed the patches to make it buildable |
| 10:06.13 | koen | it just doesn't run |
| 10:06.20 | XorA | koen: doesnt build here |
| 10:06.31 | XorA | koen: but if it doesnt run, not much point fixing that |
| 10:06.35 | koen | someone figured out it forks and waits for something to happen |
| 10:06.51 | XorA | koen: hmm, wonder if thats the same fault firefox 1.5 has then |
| 10:07.00 | XorA | koen: it runs, but never opens a window |
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| 10:09.53 | florian_hrz | Oh that looks interesting: http://handhelds.org/scap/land.22466.png |
| 10:10.49 | rob_w-cgi | florian_hrz : nice |
| 10:11.23 | pH5 | If only we had public map data in europe |
| 10:11.53 | rob_w-cgi | hmm |
| 10:12.00 | koen | looks loke gpe-calendar is not friendly to Germans: http://www.handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1434 |
| 10:12.30 | koen | any volunteers to add roadmap (gtk) to OE? |
| 10:13.30 | rob_w-cgi | koen : u where the one who was also dealing with maps n stuff , right ?? isnt there a way to create decent maps from free available data ? |
| 10:13.47 | koen | there is |
| 10:14.00 | koen | but it requires a lot of people doing a lot of work |
| 10:14.36 | koen | or your goverment gets a clue and releases the data for free |
| 10:15.09 | XorA | koen: you cant use government and clue in same sentence with a NOT A |
| 10:15.21 | koen | heh |
| 10:15.54 | florian_hrz | pH5: yeah... the situation in Europe is very bad. |
| 10:16.09 | koen | I suspect you get hauled off to 'detention' if you request mapdata for the complete country |
| 10:16.28 | XorA | just have to write a script to empty google/yahoo/msn maps |
| 10:16.49 | koen | ~lartt stupid brits with maps coverage |
| 10:16.55 | koen | ~lart even |
| 10:17.09 | pH5 | heh. and then a script to vectorize it. |
| 10:17.14 | XorA | koen: with the amusing bits missing where military bases used to be 40 years ago :-) |
| 10:28.07 | rob_w-cgi | hehe that would be cool REWARD to anyone who does that ! |
| 10:28.35 | rob_w-cgi | if my new job works out , i might have time for such things ( and a need = |
| 10:28.56 | bedboi | florian_hrz: hi there |
| 10:29.04 | florian_hrz | hi bedboi |
| 10:29.25 | bedboi | florian_hrz: i'm looking at sketchbook code in order to implement background feature |
| 10:29.30 | bedboi | you load a background |
| 10:29.33 | florian_hrz | rob_w-cgi: "new job" sounds good :-) |
| 10:29.38 | bedboi | and draw on it |
| 10:29.54 | florian_hrz | bedboi: heh.. that would be cool |
| 10:30.09 | bedboi | if you use eraser you should not erase the background |
| 10:30.23 | florian_hrz | yet |
| 10:30.32 | florian_hrz | eh yep... |
| 10:31.03 | bedboi | i think i have to hack draw_point |
| 10:34.36 | bedboi | btw i'm still looking for an example |
| 10:38.13 | _law_ | has anyone abiword 0.4.1 working? |
| 10:38.43 | rob_w-cgi | florian_hrz : yeah if that works out i will be bitbaking all day !! :-O |
| 10:44.52 | florian_hrz | bedboi: hmm... i wonder which othere applications do something like this. |
| 10:44.55 | florian_hrz | Gimp! |
| 10:45.02 | florian_hrz | rob_w-cgi: cool |
| 10:45.56 | XorA | _law_: me |
| 10:46.03 | XorA | _law_: assuming you mean 2.4.1 |
| 10:46.37 | _law_ | XorA, ok yes :-) |
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| 10:47.15 | _law_ | ok so it should work now |
| 10:47.49 | _law_ | i always hat the problem the i only see the splashscreen und after that it crashs |
| 10:48.11 | koen | same here |
| 10:48.16 | koen | xlib async error |
| 10:51.28 | bedboi | florian_hrz: is drawing_area_pixmap_buffer where strokes are drawn? |
| 10:51.28 | XorA | is working here, suggest try again as floating x libs might have fixed a big |
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| 10:51.46 | XorA | or I only have DejaVu fonts installed |
| 10:51.51 | XorA | brb |
| 10:55.46 | bedboi | w = gdk_pixbuf_get_width(GDK_PIXBUF (drawing_area_pixmap_buffer)); |
| 10:55.50 | bedboi | is this correct? |
| 10:55.52 | bedboi | i have strange values |
| 10:55.59 | bedboi | i called it in draw_point() |
| 10:56.18 | florian_hrz | bedboi: thats possible... i didn't touch these bits so far. |
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| 10:58.01 | XorA | re |
| 10:58.24 | bedboi | hmm |
| 11:01.17 | bedboi | cool |
| 11:01.28 | bedboi | drawing_area_pixmap_buffer is not a pixbuf :) |
| 11:01.32 | bedboi | it is a pixmap :) |
| 11:03.18 | bedboi | how to get a pixbuf from a pixmap |
| 11:08.14 | pH5 | bedboi: can't you use gdk_drawable_get_size? |
| 11:09.00 | bedboi | pH5: the point is that i need a pixbuf |
| 11:09.10 | bedboi | to use gdk_pixbuf_composite |
| 11:09.37 | florian_hrz | bbl |
| 11:16.14 | pH5 | bedboi, how about gdk_pixbuf_render_to_drawable |
| 11:19.46 | _law_ | i think i found an gpe-bluetooth bug |
| 11:20.48 | _law_ | if i remove gpe-bluetooth from panel i have to cardctl remove cardctl insert to get bluetooth working again |
| 11:23.08 | _law_ | okay gpe-bluetooth doesnt work anymore :-) |
| 11:27.08 | koen | yeah |
| 11:27.33 | koen | if a bluetooth link is active when launching gpe-bluetooth it forget that it needs to hciattach stuff |
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| 11:30.08 | florian_kc | re |
| 11:32.09 | koen | florian_kc: wb |
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| 11:42.48 | pH5 | florian_kc: are there plans to remove the pcmcia-cs/cardctl dependency from gpe-conf/cardinfo? |
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| 11:49.13 | florian_kc | pH5: yes, i'd like to redesign this bit... but currently i don't have time to do so. |
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| 12:02.36 | law|clamshell | hi |
| 12:02.41 | _law_ | law|clamshell, test |
| 12:04.17 | law|clamshell | test |
| 12:04.41 | law|clamshell | jippy now sound works in gaim :-) |
| 12:05.51 | _law_ | law|clamshell, nice |
| 12:05.59 | pH5 | florian_kc: I understand. |
| 12:19.40 | koen | iirc you need the very latest libmimedir |
| 12:20.03 | koen | if that doesn't help try mailing martin |
| 12:20.07 | florian_kc | koen: i have the latest release |
| 12:20.17 | florian_kc | i just did :-) |
| 12:25.06 | florian_kc | hrm... i wonder why 0.3.1 isn't mantioned in ChangeLog |
| 12:26.37 | koen | the soversion also mismatches |
| 12:26.43 | koen | to I guess 0.3.1 has a quick hack |
| 12:35.20 | florian_kc | yeah... and that "0.4.0" from cvs still has .0.2 :-/ |
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| 12:47.28 | florian_kc | hmm no... still the same issue. |
| 12:54.38 | pb_ | pH5: why did you send me that email about multiple versions of .bb files? |
| 12:57.07 | pH5 | pb_: sorry. I wanted to ask your permission to delete the gtk+_2.8.[0-6] packages as you are the MAINTAINER |
| 12:57.27 | pH5 | pb_: got distracted while writing it |
| 12:57.36 | pb_ | ah, heh |
| 12:57.38 | pb_ | sure, go ahead |
| 12:57.59 | pb_ | I didn't actually create those .bb files; I guess someone else must have copied an older version of gtk and not changed the MAINTAINER field. |
| 12:58.47 | pH5 | pb_: should I remove your name from the remaining gtk+ 2.8.9 .bb, then? |
| 12:59.14 | pb_ | yeah, please do |
| 12:59.45 | pb_ | it wouldn't be a bad idea to just remove my name globally from all the MAINTAINER fields, actually. it's not as if I actually maintain any of that stuff in any meaningful way anymore. |
| 13:00.46 | pH5 | pb_: that is indeed good to know |
| 13:03.35 | pH5 | heh, a grep|wc -l shows about 250 recipes with your name :) |
| 13:04.40 | florian_kc | oh |
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| 13:06.25 | florian_kc | hi mallum |
| 13:07.01 | mallum | hey |
| 13:09.07 | ade|desk | hey mallum |
| 13:09.22 | mallum | hey ade|desk |
| 13:09.37 | koen | hey hey hey |
| 13:09.39 | koen | it's mallum |
| 13:11.39 | rob_w-cgi | general question : will matchbox work on MIPS based builds ?!? should , right ! |
| 13:12.06 | koen | it should work |
| 13:12.16 | florian_kc | rob_w-cgi: yes.. i have it running on my O2 :-) |
| 13:12.45 | mallum | hehe |
| 13:13.40 | ade|desk | mallum: i could just kiss you for your stubs used in diet-x11, i needed to add a few more, but would like you to cast your eye over the patch ( when i find it, disks have been shifted to another system for a mock DR test) i think i may need to cast a NULL as something else, but looking at the warnings i get the same warning that other functions suffer |
| 13:14.04 | mallum | ade|desk: please do send patch :) |
| 13:14.13 | mallum | ade|desk: also check you are using latest xlibs cvs |
| 13:14.35 | ade|desk | arse bugger... was against 6.2.1 |
| 13:15.14 | pb_ | pH5: heh, yeah |
| 13:15.17 | pb_ | copy and paste is a dangerous thing |
| 13:17.01 | _law_ | any ideas why i see only essid name with mb-applet-wireless? no signal strange |
| 13:17.46 | rob_w-cgi | what is a O2 ?? |
| 13:18.10 | ade|desk | mallum: yeah , it should still patch against ok, will try later |
| 13:18.28 | mallum | ade|desk: okey dokes cool |
| 13:26.08 | rob_w-cgi | florian_kc is that a SGI box ? |
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| 13:28.52 | ade|desk | mallum: right ok, were do you want it ? |
| 13:29.15 | mallum | ade|desk: mallum@o-hand.com |
| 13:31.42 | florian_kc | rob_w-cgi: yes right |
| 13:32.05 | rob_w-cgi | wonderfull |
| 13:33.46 | ade|desk | mallum: should be on its way |
| 13:36.58 | mallum | got it thanks |
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| 14:16.17 | koen | hey TyggerBob |
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| 14:27.48 | TyggerBob | HI Koen |
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| 14:53.51 | _law_ | hmm gnumeric doesnt build :-( |
| 14:53.53 | _law_ | http://pastebin.com/463724 |
| 14:57.09 | XorA | _law_: you need gtk2-dev on host |
| 14:57.22 | _law_ | XorA, ok thanks |
| 14:57.54 | XorA | cdump executable If I remeber right |
| 14:58.37 | koen | that's abiword |
| 14:58.50 | koen | I think gnumeric needs gdk-pixbug-csourse |
| 14:58.53 | koen | ugh |
| 14:59.00 | koen | source* |
| 14:59.06 | XorA | koen: oh yes, mixed them up |
| 14:59.19 | XorA | ~lart me for absent mind |
| 14:59.30 | koen | listning to rammstein all day kills my spelling skills |
| 15:00.02 | _law_ | build abiword a hour ago will try it later |
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| 15:14.41 | rob_w-cgi | koen : hehe but it will make you talk german soon ! |
| 15:15.11 | koen | quatsch |
| 15:15.34 | rob_w-cgi | 1 ... Die Sonne |
| 15:28.42 | florian_kc | re |
| 15:38.07 | _law_ | NOTE: package gnumeric-1.6.0: completed :-) |
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| 18:13.52 | koen | pH5: looks one of our wishes has been granted |
| 18:17.52 | pH5 | gnn |
| 18:17.59 | pH5 | iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 6348 -j DROP |
| 18:19.41 | florian_kc | hmm whats 6348/tcp? |
| 18:20.22 | pH5 | dunno, some p2p app probably probably. |
| 18:23.13 | koen | btw: http://alex.geekinjapan.com/palm/images/gpe-shots.jpg |
| 18:24.11 | florian_kc | yay! |
| 18:24.14 | bedboi | what's that? |
| 18:24.20 | bedboi | what device??? |
| 18:24.27 | bedboi | don't tell me is a cell phone |
| 18:24.31 | bedboi | please don't tell me |
| 18:24.42 | koen | palm lifedrive |
| 18:24.54 | koen | a 'normal' pda |
| 18:25.14 | pH5 | heh. i want a vga phone, too. |
| 18:25.57 | bedboi | ah, not that interesting |
| 18:26.37 | bedboi | i want gpe on a cellphone |
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| 18:26.46 | koen | yeah! |
| 18:26.53 | koen | and use teleport over gprs |
| 18:27.15 | bedboi | ahahah |
| 18:27.45 | bedboi | cool |
| 18:28.36 | koen | does it involve bribing luc and Philippe ? |
| 18:30.05 | Philippe | mhh... |
| 18:30.25 | florian_kc | koen: heh no, but thats a good idea... |
| 18:31.33 | Philippe | so what do you want to bribe me for? A cell-phone? |
| 18:31.37 | florian_kc | koen: I have been playing around with a linux based phone, but thats from a different company. |
| 18:32.11 | florian_kc | Philippe: I guess koen wants a Linux based cellphone manufactureed by Nokia. |
| 18:33.22 | Philippe | koen, you should bribe other people for that... (especially lawyers I guess) |
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| 18:41.08 | mallum | jserv2: hey |
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| 19:11.35 | l1nux | hi :) |
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| 19:12.36 | l1nux | i have serial cable now :D |
| 19:13.15 | l1nux | where i get bootloader ? |
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| 19:14.20 | l1nux | not work ------> http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8.0/install/download.html :/ |
| 19:14.32 | l1nux | Parse error: parse error, unexpected T_STRING in /home/ftp/distributions/familiar/releases/v0.8.0/install/download.html on line 6 |
| 19:14.43 | obergix[home] | hi |
| 19:16.27 | l1nux | i need recent BootBlaster |
| 19:16.34 | l1nux | please help |
| 19:17.04 | obergix[home] | l1nux: why not 0.8.2 ? |
| 19:17.23 | l1nux | ok, but where ? |
| 19:17.31 | l1nux | link please :) |
| 19:17.46 | obergix[home] | http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8.2/install/download.html |
| 19:17.57 | l1nux | ok :) |
| 19:18.04 | obergix[home] | how did you reach that URL ? |
| 19:19.12 | koen|meeting | stinking slashdot effect |
| 19:19.30 | obergix[home] | slashdotted ? |
| 19:19.45 | l1nux | bootgpe-h3600.tar <------- this ? |
| 19:21.02 | l1nux | obergix[home] i need bootblaster |
| 19:21.05 | l1nux | please |
| 19:21.26 | obergix[home] | l1nux: yeah... it's inside, I think |
| 19:21.37 | l1nux | ok :) |
| 19:21.45 | obergix[home] | l1nux: again, how comes you went to this URL and not the most recent one ? |
| 19:24.23 | l1nux | from here http://www.handhelds.org/geeklog/index.php |
| 19:24.41 | koen|meeting | http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/download.php could also work |
| 19:24.50 | l1nux | @How-Tos |
| 19:25.20 | l1nux | next How to install Familiar Linux on the Compaq iPAQ Handheld (H3100/H3600/H3700/H3800/H3900) |
| 19:25.27 | l1nux | :) |
| 19:25.53 | obergix[home] | l1nux: ok... hmmm... if somehone can patch the docs ;) |
| 19:26.06 | l1nux | ok :) |
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| 19:26.55 | obergix[home] | I suppose we could file a bug report ? |
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| 19:30.19 | l1nux | obergix[home] merci :) |
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| 19:37.13 | l1nux | howto copy "wince img" from ipaq ? |
| 19:37.22 | l1nux | for backup |
| 19:38.54 | l1nux | ah ok |
| 19:38.57 | l1nux | sloved :) |
| 20:03.11 | l1nux | serial console at your service... |
| 20:03.17 | l1nux | boot> |
| 20:03.24 | l1nux | but nothing.. |
| 20:04.57 | l1nux | i try "CTRL-A S" (send file in minicom) ? |
| 20:08.23 | l1nux | please, any one help ? |
| 20:08.36 | koen|meeting | l1nux: try #handhelds.org |
| 20:08.49 | l1nux | ok |
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| 20:30.23 | Philippe | l1nux, you first need to do load root |
| 20:30.43 | Philippe | then upload |
| 20:31.12 | l1nux | Philippe, not possible to type any thing :/ |
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| 20:32.31 | Philippe | make sure that the serial is well connected. I have that problem with my cradle sometimes... |
| 20:32.33 | l1nux | i try calendar, i get boot> ser_con |
| 20:32.39 | l1nux | serial console at your service... |
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| 20:33.23 | Philippe | that is a good start. Just make sure the cable is connected correctly to the Ipaq |
| 20:33.52 | l1nux | yeah |
| 20:34.38 | l1nux | yes is connected correctly |
| 20:35.08 | l1nux | possible need some setup in minicom ? |
| 20:35.18 | Philippe | ok, minicom should be set to 115200 8N1 no flow control at all |
| 20:35.37 | koen | hey Philippe |
| 20:36.06 | l1nux | no flow control at all, where ? |
| 20:36.07 | koen | Philippe: what are the requirements for a fosdem talk? |
| 20:36.15 | l1nux | ctrl A T ? |
| 20:39.10 | Minase | is there a way to open a local file with gpe-mini-browser? |
| 20:39.19 | koen | file:/ ? |
| 20:39.39 | l1nux | is ok |
| 20:39.49 | l1nux | ready for YMODEM transfer... |
| 20:39.53 | Minase | doesn't work for directory indexes... i'll try it, just didn't want to type the huge pathname with my stylus before asking XP |
| 20:39.54 | l1nux | ?? |
| 20:40.16 | l1nux | CCCC... |
| 20:40.19 | l1nux | ?? |
| 20:41.32 | Minase | oh, i feel stupid now. |
| 20:41.58 | l1nux | CCCC.....Too many errors during receive; giving up. |
| 20:42.09 | l1nux | download error. aborting. :/ |
| 20:42.45 | Minase | also, is there any way to copy and paste in gpe? i am missing middle click :( |
| 20:43.14 | koen | tap-n-hold or via xmonobut |
| 20:43.41 | Minase | i thought xmonobut was supposed to do that, but i can never get it to work. doesn't tap-n-hold do right click? |
| 20:43.42 | bedboi | going home |
| 20:44.30 | Philippe | koen, it has to be an embedded topic that is all. And send in an abstract to me. |
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| 20:44.52 | koen | Philippe: what are the demands for the abstracts? |
| 20:45.02 | Philippe | l1nux, try again. That might happen if you had to fiddle with it for too long. (reset, ...) |
| 20:45.46 | Philippe | koen, A small description of what the talk is going to be about. Eventually some details and links. And it should not be a word document. |
| 20:45.57 | koen | ah, ok |
| 20:46.17 | koen | for debconf the abstract needed to be ±1500 words |
| 20:47.00 | koen | ~lart me for forgetting to submit that in time |
| 20:47.57 | Philippe | koen, to get an idea http://www.embedded-kernel-track.org/2005/papers.html |
| 20:55.02 | koen | that shouldn't be too hard to write |
| 20:55.16 | Philippe | :-) |
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| 20:59.51 | l1nux | Philippe, why using ymodem ? |
| 21:00.04 | l1nux | is same xmodem ? |
| 21:00.30 | l1nux | CCCC.....Too many errors during receive; giving up. |
| 21:00.35 | l1nux | download error. aborting. |
| 21:00.39 | l1nux | :/ |
| 21:01.04 | Philippe | xmodem is something different. |
| 21:01.13 | obergix[home] | l1nux: it worked for me no later than this afternoon with ymodem... just read the docs in details (no flow control, ymodem, etc.) |
| 21:01.41 | l1nux | ok :) |
| 21:01.47 | Philippe | l1nux, don't wait to long with the sending also... that also causes some download errors... |
| 21:02.02 | l1nux | ok |
| 21:08.11 | koen | with lots of belgian beers |
| 21:17.09 | l1nux | philippe, i get |
| 21:17.10 | l1nux | partition root is a jffs2 partition: |
| 21:17.16 | l1nux | expecting .jffs2 or wince_image.gz. |
| 21:17.26 | l1nux | After receiving file, will automatically uncompress .gz images |
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| 21:18.11 | l1nux | the root "file name" is rootfs.jffs2 |
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| 21:18.37 | bedboi | re |
| 21:20.19 | Philippe | l1nux, yes indeed :-) |
| 21:20.49 | l1nux | not need to rename image to root.jffs ? |
| 21:24.38 | Philippe | l1nux, no as long as you got a file ending with jffs2 it should be okay |
| 21:25.12 | l1nux | hhmm, i get only error :/ |
| 21:26.02 | obergix[home] | l1nux: which kind of ? |
| 21:26.19 | Philippe | which image did you get and for which PDA? |
| 21:26.43 | l1nux | CCCC.....Too many errors during receive; giving up. |
| 21:26.48 | l1nux | download error. aborting. |
| 21:27.35 | obergix[home] | l1nux: press the ipaq on the craddle to allow maximum chances of contact... |
| 21:27.46 | obergix[home] | l1nux: you sure you get the right parameters in minicom ? |
| 21:28.36 | l1nux | i try reset my ipaq, i get windows ce !!!!!! |
| 21:28.42 | l1nux | why ? |
| 21:28.59 | Philippe | l1nux, you need to press the middle button during reset |
| 21:29.00 | obergix[home] | l1nux: probably because of the errors ;) |
| 21:29.10 | obergix[home] | sorry ;) |
| 21:29.11 | Philippe | and be very fast pressing the calendar buttons |
| 21:30.37 | l1nux | possible my ipaq bootloader in newer ? |
| 21:30.54 | obergix[home] | newer than what ? |
| 21:31.34 | l1nux | because i have upgrade ipaq boot loader from ipaq support |
| 21:37.56 | obergix[home] | l1nux: which model are you trying to install on ? |
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| 21:39.22 | flo_gib | re |
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| 21:45.51 | l1nux-2 | sorry connection problem :/ |
| 21:54.53 | fb | hi l1nux |
| 21:55.12 | l1nux | hi fb :) |
| 21:57.34 | l1nux | any body get success with "ipaq-3600" and bootldr-2.21.12 ? |
| 21:57.37 | l1nux | ? |
| 21:58.36 | fb | I have no idea, left my iPaq at kc |
| 21:58.58 | Philippe | l1nux, did you decompress the tarball? |
| 21:59.07 | fb | ibot: seen luc_? |
| 21:59.20 | ibot | luc_ <n=luc@30-5-73.wireless.csail.mit.edu> was last seen on IRC in channel #gpe, 66d 1h 5m 15s ago, saying: 'koen, hi from Tommi'. |
| 21:59.20 | Philippe | l1nux, and got it here? http://handhelds.org/download/familiar/releases/v0.8.2/install/download.html |
| 22:00.09 | l1nux | Philippe, of course i have decompress the tarball :P |
| 22:00.47 | l1nux | all files is in bootgpe-h3600.tar |
| 22:01.08 | Philippe | hmm, those should be okay. |
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| 22:02.03 | Philippe | l1nux, you need to be really fast uploading the jffs2 because I have seen that kind of behaviour if I wait to long |
| 22:03.42 | obergix[home] | l1nux: just installed gpe-image*.jffs2 this afternoon on same machine |
| 22:04.16 | l1nux | 3600 ? |
| 22:04.34 | obergix[home] | l1nux: 3640 I think... |
| 22:04.41 | obergix[home] | kinda old machine... |
| 22:04.45 | l1nux | hmm... |
| 22:05.32 | obergix[home] | l1nux: don't expect to get much room in / after install of gpe-image (dunno for opie) |
| 22:07.32 | fb | hmm yes, on 16m devices the filesystem is almost full. |
| 22:07.52 | fb | according to koen the gpe image is about 200k smaller. |
| 22:08.04 | obergix[home] | and with the 0.8.3 snapshot : almost impossible to do anything :( |
| 22:08.17 | obergix[home] | fb: hurray ;) |
| 22:08.54 | fb | obergix[home]: because of the filesystem size or is it something else? |
| 22:09.32 | obergix[home] | dunno... I flashed, and then... at first login, / was full :( |
| 22:09.47 | obergix[home] | snapshot of 2 days ago I think... |
| 22:09.52 | obergix[home] | so reverted to 0.8.2 |
| 22:11.50 | fb | hrm... we need to reduce the size a little bit to make this work again. |
| 22:13.33 | fb | Luckily i have kc's h5550 here :-) |
| 22:14.03 | Philippe | obergix[home], good to tell us that. So we can reduce the 3600 image a bit |
| 22:15.46 | obergix[home] | Philippe: wanted to bug-report... but had busy afternoon ;) |
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| 22:24.42 | pH5 | good night |
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| 22:31.48 | unknown26 | hi Philippe |
| 22:32.41 | Philippe | hey unknown26 ! |
| 22:33.57 | unknown26 | Philippe: What packages do I need to see the helpviewer in action? |
| 22:34.55 | Philippe | unknown26, the helpviewer and gtk-webcore ones. If you already have the gpe-mini-browser that should be easy. |
| 22:35.04 | Philippe | And there should be a gpe-edit-help package |
| 22:35.33 | unknown26 | ah, gpe-edit-help was what I was missing |
| 22:35.49 | Philippe | if you start gpe-edit you should see a help button appear |
| 22:41.02 | fb | hi unknown26 |
| 22:42.23 | unknown26 | hello fb |
| 22:43.31 | Philippe | night all |
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| 22:43.40 | unknown26 | night Philippe |
| 22:44.38 | fb | Philippe: good night |
| 22:45.42 | unknown26 | fb: Have you had trouble with the latest snapshots, It doesn't seem to get past the first boot for me. |
| 23:00.11 | fb | unknown26: I have the one before installed on a h5550. this one works pretty nice. |
| 23:03.29 | unknown26 | fb: I'll try reverting to that, thanks |
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