| 00:18.44 | *** join/#gpe grendal_prime (n=grendal@son-216-86-177-153.static.mlode.com) |
| 00:19.02 | grendal_prime | ok i keep getting dependecy problems on my zaurus |
| 00:21.13 | *** join/#gpe jaxson (n=jackson@81-232-137-83-no23.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 00:34.25 | *** join/#gpe moray (n=moray@debian/developer/moray) |
| 00:53.12 | *** join/#gpe picassso (n=dima@81.211.124.124.adsl-spb.net.rol.ru) |
| 00:59.51 | *** join/#gpe FortMa1 (n=aperez@pool-71-250-10-53.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) |
| 01:11.43 | *** join/#gpe Timelord (n=TL@66.84.189.72) |
| 01:14.38 | *** join/#gpe mndctrl (n=mind@81.167.1.2) |
| 01:51.17 | *** part/#gpe jaxson (n=jackson@81-232-137-83-no23.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 03:03.15 | *** join/#gpe ibot (i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt) |
| 03:03.15 | *** topic/#gpe is The GPE Palmtop Environment - http://gpe.handhelds.org/ | GPE Wiki: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GPEProject |familiar snapshots: http://familiar.handhelds.org/snapshots/ | Development Manual (in progress): http://www.kernelconcepts.de/~fuchs/gpe/doc/devmanual/ | GPE 2.7 frozen. Finish the bugfixing -> http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GPEToFixFor2_2e7 |
| 05:26.39 | *** join/#gpe koen (n=koen@dominion.kabel.utwente.nl) |
| 06:07.08 | *** join/#gpe aquadran (i=pablo@scummvm/undead/aquadran) |
| 07:14.20 | *** join/#gpe _law_ (n=law@mail.stiftadmont.at) |
| 07:27.26 | _law_ | any ideas why i get this http://pastebin.com/441962 build error? |
| 07:29.25 | *** join/#gpe zecke (n=ich@88.134.0.77) |
| 07:53.03 | *** join/#gpe kammicazze (n=kammi@uu194-7-185-133.unknown.uunet.be) |
| 08:36.56 | koen | _law_: at the first sight it looks like a missing .h |
| 08:38.34 | koen | you could try building gnokii 0.6.10 instead of 0.6.4 |
| 08:39.40 | _law_ | koen, this is the output og 0.6.10 |
| 08:39.47 | _law_ | s/og/of |
| 08:39.55 | _law_ | 0.6.4 works |
| 08:40.09 | _law_ | but not with gnome-phone-manager |
| 08:40.20 | _law_ | GN_OP_GetFileList is an function of gnokii |
| 09:16.34 | *** join/#gpe ade|desk (n=adavey@194.200.143.249) |
| 09:18.22 | *** join/#gpe obergix[work] (n=olivier@inf-berger.int-evry.fr) |
| 09:29.41 | *** join/#gpe dc__ (n=dctanner@217.68.28.229) |
| 09:43.00 | *** join/#gpe bedboi (n=bedboi@signserv.Signal.Uu.Se) |
| 09:50.53 | *** join/#gpe iclem (n=iclem@iclem.net) |
| 09:52.26 | *** join/#gpe florian_hrz (n=fuchs@proton.hrz.Uni-Siegen.DE) |
| 09:54.01 | florian_hrz | good morning |
| 09:54.46 | florian_hrz | Philippe: Sorry... i lost my DSL connection last night. You should be able to change your password now. |
| 09:56.02 | koen | hey florian_hrz |
| 09:56.13 | florian_hrz | hi koen |
| 09:57.10 | koen | florian_hrz: did you notice that gpe-conf theme has parts that do instant-apply and parts that don't? |
| 09:58.26 | florian_hrz | koen: yes... the theme setting is changed on the fly because we don't have a mechanism for preview so far. |
| 10:01.18 | florian_hrz | koen: btw. could you test this on your clamshell Z? I remember it suffered from that freeze bug there too. |
| 10:01.42 | florian_hrz | koen: just run the latest cvs version from desktop and apply changes. |
| 10:03.06 | *** join/#gpe picassso_ (n=picassso@217.146.195.185) |
| 10:03.43 | *** part/#gpe picassso_ (n=picassso@217.146.195.185) |
| 10:06.31 | florian_hrz | oh... what happened to cvs.handhelds.org?! |
| 10:06.53 | florian_hrz | s/cvs./* |
| 10:07.51 | florian_hrz | No ssh access... |
| 10:08.57 | *** join/#gpe CraHan (n=CraHan@228-243.245.81.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 10:17.27 | koen | you're right |
| 10:18.25 | florian_hrz | koen: perfect |
| 10:27.55 | *** join/#gpe Cwiiis[away] (n=cil103@gerard.ecs.soton.ac.uk) |
| 10:40.10 | *** join/#gpe fng_sma (n=martin@Db652.d.pppool.de) |
| 10:40.19 | fng_sma | 'morning |
| 10:43.10 | florian_hrz | fng_sma: hi - you are early ;-) |
| 10:44.51 | fng_sma | florian_hrz: I also don |
| 10:45.12 | fng_sma | florian_hrz: I also don't know what happened to me... I always get confused when winter starts. |
| 10:45.36 | florian_hrz | heh |
| 10:46.03 | fng_sma | I'll go to New Zealand in February, so I'll experience these problems twice in 6 months. :-( |
| 10:46.21 | florian_hrz | Hrm... HRZ sucks :-/ Still no direct http access to security.debian.org :-( |
| 10:46.30 | fng_sma | hrz? |
| 10:46.53 | florian_hrz | fng_sma: eh cool... thats... far away. |
| 10:47.09 | florian_hrz | fng_sma: Hochschulrechenzentrum |
| 10:47.56 | fng_sma | florian_hrz: really? My girl-friend asked me to go abroad and well, that was the only one for which we could still apply, so I didn't really ask... I guess I need to check that ;-) |
| 10:48.31 | fng_sma | florian_hrz: No, it's really amazing, there were only four exchange places and we got two of them!! |
| 10:48.32 | koen | hey fng_sma |
| 10:48.36 | fng_sma | hi koen! |
| 10:48.36 | florian_hrz | fng_sma: yes it is! ;-) |
| 10:49.23 | florian_hrz | fng_sma: yeah... that's nice, i think thats a pretty interesting area of this world. |
| 10:49.27 | fng_sma | We already booked the flight and all that stuff... February 15th we'll fly to Dubai, stay there for two days and then we'll fly to Auckland. |
| 10:49.46 | koen | ugh |
| 10:49.52 | koen | long trips by airplane |
| 10:50.13 | fng_sma | koen: but at least we have a small stop in Dubai :-D |
| 10:50.54 | fng_sma | There is a small "tale?", that when god finished the world, he took all the nicest places together and formed New Zealand. |
| 10:51.29 | XorA | fng_sma: then he put all the worst places together on other side of world and called it uk :-) |
| 10:51.47 | florian_hrz | *g* |
| 10:51.53 | fng_sma | hehe :-) |
| 10:53.31 | florian_hrz | fng_sma: Do you think it is time for some official release of gpe-syncd to become included in 2.7? |
| 10:53.53 | fng_sma | Yes! Definitely. Currently I don't know of any problems with it. |
| 10:55.11 | fng_sma | florian_hrz: I might add some documentation about it, although I doubt, that someone will need it. |
| 10:57.07 | *** join/#gpe univac (n=univac@amc21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 10:57.12 | florian_hrz | fng_sma: perfect... well soem lines would be good, i'll promise to read it. And it might be useful some time to become a base for preparing user manuals. |
| 10:57.32 | fng_sma | florian_hrz: okay. I'll do it. |
| 11:01.32 | florian_hrz | fng_sma: cool - thanks! |
| 11:05.05 | fng_sma | Does anybody know a good howto for creating the autotools configurations? |
| 11:07.22 | *** join/#gpe zecke_ (n=ich@rosine114.inf.fu-berlin.de) |
| 11:08.56 | florian_hrz | hmm... not offhand, but i remember i read some. i can try to find a tutorial i read some time ago later at kc. |
| 11:09.26 | fng_sma | florian_hrz: just send it via email if you can find it. |
| 11:09.34 | fng_sma | florian_hrz: thanks. |
| 11:12.15 | florian_hrz | fng_sma: okay |
| 11:27.05 | *** join/#gpe lardman|work (n=lardman@138.38.73.178) |
| 11:31.12 | koen | florian_hrz: if you don't want gpe bugs assigned to oe@, please fill the MAINTAINER field in the affected .bb with the correct name+email |
| 11:31.53 | koen | the hh.org bugzilla parses the ipkg and makes the content of the Maintainer: field the default assignee |
| 11:32.42 | lardman|work | morning all |
| 11:32.50 | florian_hrz | koen: that's true, we should fix this in oe pretty soon. in this way we end up in the problem that the maintainers don't get notified of an issue. |
| 11:32.51 | koen | hey lardman|work |
| 11:32.52 | fng_sma | good morning lardman|work |
| 11:32.56 | florian_hrz | hi lardman|work |
| 11:33.20 | lardman|work | hi koen, fng_sma, florian_hrz |
| 11:38.39 | *** join/#gpe lolita__ (n=matthias@w216.wist.uni-linz.ac.at) |
| 11:43.38 | florian_hrz | hi lolita__ |
| 11:45.05 | lolita__ | hi florian_hrz ... how are you .. my head wants to explode |
| 11:45.43 | *** join/#gpe Bilbolodz (n=bilbo@pc-bilbo.man.lodz.pl) |
| 11:45.45 | florian_hrz | lolita__: uh... waht are you doing? /me feels better :-) |
| 11:45.54 | Bilbolodz | Hi all, |
| 11:46.00 | florian_hrz | hi Bilbolodz |
| 11:46.24 | fng_sma | hi Bilbolodz |
| 11:47.14 | lolita__ | forlian_hrz ... having headache ... i think to less sleep |
| 11:47.20 | koen | hey Bilbolodz & lolita__ |
| 11:47.59 | lolita__ | hey ho koen! |
| 11:48.40 | Bilbolodz | florian: I've question: I'm trying to use bluetooth card on image you last sent on simpad-general. Could you "share" missing kernel modules? |
| 11:48.55 | Bilbolodz | and maybe other stuff |
| 11:49.24 | fng_sma | koen: I just read your blog, where you told, that you found some bugs on your balcony :) great! |
| 11:49.38 | fng_sma | koen: Nice pictures, though |
| 11:50.21 | florian_hrz | lolita__: oh dear |
| 11:52.00 | florian_hrz | Bilbolodz: I don't know if they were built, but i could make that feed available... |
| 11:52.13 | Bilbolodz | great |
| 11:52.55 | florian_hrz | Bilbolodz: will try to work on this later... |
| 11:53.03 | florian_hrz | bbl |
| 12:04.52 | koen | fng_sma: better bugs on the balcony than in software :) |
| 12:06.18 | fng_sma | koen: definitely! |
| 12:10.02 | fng_sma | The opensync plugin is now available from svn.opensync.org! |
| 12:17.23 | koen | cool |
| 12:18.00 | koen | when ssh is up again at hh.org, could you add a note to the gpe-opensync dir that is has moved? |
| 12:20.11 | *** join/#gpe florian_kc (n=fuchs@dns.kernelconcepts.de) |
| 12:20.34 | florian_kc | re |
| 12:26.21 | fng_sma | koen: I thought of removing the whole directory. But yes, a small note will be better. |
| 12:27.27 | koen | florian_kc: wb |
| 12:31.45 | fng_sma | Okay, time to go to work. Have a nice day! |
| 12:38.27 | florian_kc | lolita__: Was there a particular reason why you made gpe-calendar not ot alter its main window event mask or was this just a guess? |
| 12:46.45 | *** join/#gpe katossi_uni (n=guillerm@linkwood.informatik.uni-duisburg.de) |
| 12:54.13 | *** join/#gpe lolita__ (n=matthias@w216.wist.uni-linz.ac.at) |
| 12:55.43 | florian_kc | lolita__: Was there a particular reason why you made gpe-calendar not ot alter its main window event mask or was this just a guess? |
| 13:11.43 | Tygger-Bob | morning, florian_kc, koen, et al |
| 13:12.57 | koen | hey Tygger-Bob |
| 13:15.19 | florian_kc | hi Tygger-Bob |
| 13:15.32 | Tygger-Bob | florian_kc, quick question.. |
| 13:16.24 | Tygger-Bob | would it be better to blow away my existing pull, (after copying my new .bb's and their directories, and start from scratch with a new pull, if I'm going to do commits? |
| 13:18.03 | florian_kc | hmm... maybe, i'm not sure how clever montone is able to handle this. |
| 13:18.14 | koen | starting from with a new checkout will prevent surprises |
| 13:18.55 | Tygger-Bob | actually, florian_kc already pushed my bb's etc.. |
| 13:19.01 | Tygger-Bob | so I really don't even need to keep them |
| 13:21.09 | florian_kc | Tygger-Bob: not all so far, only the first bunch. |
| 13:21.41 | Tygger-Bob | Ahh. ok |
| 13:21.44 | Tygger-Bob | I'll hold on to them |
| 13:21.56 | Tygger-Bob | do a pull and then put in the ones that are missing.. |
| 13:22.05 | Tygger-Bob | hrw gave me some good tips on style for the .bb's. |
| 13:22.12 | Tygger-Bob | I'll do some cleanup on them before I repush them |
| 13:22.52 | florian_kc | very good |
| 13:23.09 | florian_kc | hrm... |
| 13:23.35 | Tygger-Bob | I thought it was back up |
| 13:24.22 | florian_kc | It wasn 10 minutes ago... |
| 13:24.27 | Tygger-Bob | ahhh |
| 13:24.32 | florian_kc | oh |
| 13:24.39 | florian_kc | it is back - indeed! |
| 13:24.49 | florian_kc | Now i can start working :-) |
| 13:27.00 | Tygger-Bob | koen, brb |
| 13:27.04 | Tygger-Bob | oops |
| 13:27.09 | Tygger-Bob | just brb... |
| 13:37.50 | obergix[work] | florian_kc: about the bugs on gpe-calendar you just reassigned (http://www.handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1427)... was it wrong to file it there ? |
| 13:43.10 | lolita__ | florian_kc ... i did not think of this at all |
| 13:43.29 | lolita__ | i was just happy to see it working ;) after following the tweaks of the porting handbook |
| 13:50.52 | koen | obergix[work]: no, bugzilla had the wrong default assignee |
| 13:51.09 | obergix[work] | koen: ok... I'm relieved ;) |
| 13:58.52 | *** join/#gpe univac_ (n=univac@amb140.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 14:04.19 | *** join/#gpe JiniDog (n=jini@p54BFF404.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:31.46 | *** part/#gpe Bilbolodz (n=bilbo@pc-bilbo.man.lodz.pl) |
| 14:32.19 | florian_kc | re |
| 14:38.03 | florian_kc | obergix[work]: ah well nothing you could avoid easily. oe sets the maintainer field to the mailinglist adress and hh.org bugzilla parses it from the package. |
| 14:39.33 | florian_kc | obergix[work]: But that's not your fault, we need to fix the maintainer information in the oe packages. |
| 14:39.57 | florian_kc | lolita__: okay :-) |
| 14:41.54 | florian_kc | ~lart matchbox dialog code |
| 14:44.08 | florian_kc | bedboi: wb |
| 14:44.14 | bedboi | thanks |
| 14:44.15 | bedboi | :) |
| 14:45.14 | bedboi | what's up? |
| 14:45.20 | bedboi | any fresh news? |
| 14:46.40 | florian_kc | Not really, i still need to check out what is different in th gweather plugin. |
| 14:47.06 | florian_kc | I just found a bug in gpe-calenadr i need to fix efore releasing a new package for maemo. |
| 14:48.55 | florian_kc | Another bug bites the dust ;-) |
| 15:31.44 | *** join/#gpe katossi (n=guillerm@dslb-084-061-195-209.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:32.33 | koen | florian_kc: libopensync and multisync are in OE now, so we're getting close to be able to sync gpe <> phone |
| 15:33.50 | florian_kc | koen: yeah... that would be pretty cool. |
| 15:42.53 | *** join/#gpe _law_ (n=_law_@213.173.86.202) |
| 15:44.08 | *** join/#gpe TyggerBob (n=myname@CPE0000395fb8ba-CM000f9f7c58fa.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 15:46.07 | TyggerBob | 'lo all |
| 15:46.57 | koen | hey TyggerBob |
| 15:52.40 | *** join/#gpe _law_ (n=_law_@213.173.86.202) |
| 16:01.23 | *** join/#gpe bedboi (n=bedboi@signserv.Signal.Uu.Se) |
| 16:03.59 | *** join/#gpe _law_ (n=_law_@213.173.86.202) |
| 16:04.58 | *** join/#gpe _law_ (n=_law_@213.173.86.202) |
| 16:27.20 | *** join/#gpe jsmanrique (n=jsmanriq@82.Red-83-37-65.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 16:29.25 | *** join/#gpe mimecar-working (n=chatzill@53.Red-81-39-242.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 16:30.05 | mimecar | hi |
| 16:32.22 | *** join/#gpe rob_w (n=bob@p85.212.144.39.tisdip.tiscali.de) |
| 16:34.02 | florian_kc | mimecar: hi |
| 16:34.13 | mimecar | evening florian_kc |
| 17:12.57 | *** join/#gpe lolita__ (n=matthias@w216.wist.uni-linz.ac.at) |
| 17:23.42 | koen | root@h2200:~# msynctool --listplugins |
| 17:23.42 | koen | Available plugins: |
| 17:23.42 | koen | file-sync |
| 17:23.42 | koen | gpe-sync |
| 17:23.45 | koen | yay! |
| 17:25.48 | florian_kc | rock! |
| 17:26.34 | koen | onto irmc |
| 17:27.09 | Philippe | evening all |
| 17:28.24 | lardman|work | If I build a gpe-image for nokia770, it presumably pulls in external binaries such as the dsp kernel? |
| 17:29.01 | koen | hey Philippe |
| 17:29.18 | Philippe | hey koen |
| 17:29.27 | Philippe | florian_kc, ok changed my password. Thanks! |
| 17:30.57 | florian_kc | hi Philippe |
| 17:32.17 | florian_kc | lardman|work: not yet... but it makes use of the binary stuff (e.g. wireless firmware) for the initrd. |
| 17:32.23 | *** join/#gpe CraHan (n=CraHan@228-243.245.81.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 17:32.51 | florian_kc | lardman|work: if your gpe-conf isn't the cvs version make sure to start gpe-conf Look&Feel from menu. |
| 17:33.53 | *** join/#gpe bedboi (n=bedboi@217.201.65.232) |
| 17:33.54 | lardman|work | So does the bluetooth & wifi work then? |
| 17:35.13 | lardman|work | using the binary firmware, etc. |
| 17:35.32 | florian_kc | lardman|work: wifi works but isn't configured automatically becuase some nasty thing makes it only load the firmware if you bring up the device. |
| 17:35.54 | florian_kc | so you need ifdown, ifconfig up and then ifup. |
| 17:35.54 | lardman|work | florian_kc: okay, that's not so bad |
| 17:36.02 | florian_kc | bluetooth i didn't try so far. |
| 17:36.36 | lardman|work | Cool, I'll have to scrape together some free space and build for the nokia770 then |
| 17:36.39 | florian_kc | Apart from this we would need to do qouite some stuff for a really proper support... |
| 17:37.04 | lardman|work | All part of the fun hey ;) |
| 17:37.53 | lardman|work | thanks florian_kc, night all |
| 18:02.01 | *** join/#gpe Mardy_ (n=mardy@adsl-ull-231-48.42-151.net24.it) |
| 18:02.09 | Mardy_ | hi all |
| 18:02.41 | koen | hey Mardy_ |
| 18:03.35 | Philippe | hello Mardy_ |
| 18:04.06 | florian_kc | hi Mardy_ |
| 18:05.02 | Mardy | there a spirit in my zaurus... :-( |
| 18:05.36 | Mardy | the filechooser dialog in gpe-package always shows up at 320x240 |
| 18:05.42 | Mardy | I added: |
| 18:05.49 | Mardy | gtk_window_set_resizable(GTK_WINDOW(fchooser), TRUE); |
| 18:05.55 | Mardy | gtk_window_maximize(GTK_WINDOW(fchooser)); |
| 18:06.11 | Mardy | but neither the dialog is resizable, nor it is maximized |
| 18:06.40 | florian_kc | Which Zaurus is this? |
| 18:06.47 | Mardy | C860 |
| 18:06.56 | Mardy | 640x480 screen resolution |
| 18:07.07 | Mardy | it's a gpe_image I built from OE |
| 18:08.00 | Mardy | I also added "gpe_error_box("ehosdooas");", just to make sure it were using my package, and the error box shows up correctly |
| 18:08.49 | florian_kc | I have some fear this dialog is marked as a dialog and Matchbox ignores some settings. |
| 18:09.42 | koen | does the normal gtk filechooser work on 640x480? |
| 18:10.10 | _law_ | koen: an my Z it dont look very nice |
| 18:10.22 | _law_ | koen: mom i?ll search an screenshot |
| 18:10.25 | koen | if so, a if (screen>480){filechooser} else {gpe-filechooser} would be nice |
| 18:10.57 | florian_kc | I'd try to change the type hint with gtk_window_set_type_hint(). |
| 18:11.29 | *** join/#gpe zecke_ (n=ich@88.134.0.77) |
| 18:11.44 | koen | hey zecke_ |
| 18:12.44 | Mardy | florian_kc: GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_HINT_NORMAL? |
| 18:12.59 | florian_kc | Mardy: right |
| 18:16.31 | Mardy | nothing changes :-( |
| 18:18.09 | Mardy | it's strange, the save dialog in the Screenshots generator looks ok |
| 18:21.12 | florian_kc | Mardy: if the window is modal you need to disbale this too. |
| 18:21.50 | Mardy | mmm... isn't it correct for such a window to be modal? |
| 18:24.07 | florian_kc | yes |
| 18:24.38 | florian_kc | but matbox makes all modal windows show up as a dialog. imho this is a bug. |
| 18:24.47 | florian_kc | eh matchbox |
| 18:25.32 | Philippe | florian_kc, didn't mallum fix that in svn? |
| 18:26.30 | florian_kc | Philippe: I don't think so, he said "some" toolkits would need this because they don't set the type hint properly. |
| 18:27.07 | _law_ | koen: http://helmsdeep.homelinux.net/~pat/images/Screenshot-17.png the dialog window is only to small |
| 18:27.53 | koen | _law_: looks like it need to set it's size a bit bigger |
| 18:28.00 | Philippe | florian_kc, He did fix an issue with modal windows recently (but that might be a different one) |
| 18:28.02 | Mardy | _law_: just like mine |
| 18:33.06 | Mardy | florian_kc: setting the window to not modal has no effect, either |
| 18:33.29 | Mardy | but gtk_widget_set_size_request works |
| 18:34.08 | florian_kc | ah cool... but i wonder what else could make matchbox to show it in this way. |
| 18:34.30 | florian_kc | did you do any of these settings after showing the window? |
| 18:35.49 | Mardy | no |
| 18:36.15 | florian_kc | hrm... |
| 18:41.58 | Mardy | florian_kc: if I set "parent" to NULL when creating the dialog, then it starts maximized as I wanted |
| 18:46.48 | *** part/#gpe bedboi (n=bedboi@217.201.65.232) |
| 18:47.45 | florian_kc | Mardy: hmm okay... that would prevent it from setting any relationship... should be okay on a pda. |
| 18:48.18 | Mardy | florian_kc: not just that: one has also to set GDK_WINDOW_TYPE_HINT_NORMAL |
| 18:49.05 | florian_kc | yes, the "DIALOG" type hint will make it a dialog in any case, even without a parent. |
| 18:49.11 | florian_kc | Mardy: cu |
| 18:53.14 | *** join/#gpe tigrux (n=tigrux@201.137.85.166) |
| 18:53.53 | koen | hola tigrux |
| 18:53.59 | tigrux | Saludos koen. |
| 18:54.32 | tigrux | koen: I'm so sorry, I was about to forget the package you gave me. Nice t-shirt :-) Thanks. |
| 18:55.18 | koen | :) |
| 18:57.47 | florian_kc | hi tigrux |
| 18:59.07 | TyggerBob | Heya tigrux |
| 18:59.19 | tigrux | Hello TyggerBob |
| 18:59.37 | _law_ | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.5200.png scap via gprs takes hours :-) |
| 18:59.42 | tigrux | People, has anyone seen the pictures koen took in his trip to Mexico? |
| 19:00.02 | tigrux | Because I haven't. ;-) |
| 19:00.16 | tigrux | koen: where are your pictures? |
| 19:01.38 | florian_kc | _law_: nice... that background rocks! |
| 19:02.07 | TyggerBob | yeah. very nice.. |
| 19:02.12 | TyggerBob | cool icons.. |
| 19:02.15 | TyggerBob | is that your own theme? |
| 19:03.02 | florian_kc | That no special theme imho, just some special apps. |
| 19:03.09 | TyggerBob | ahhh |
| 19:03.13 | *** join/#gpe dc__ (n=dctanner@217.68.28.229) |
| 19:03.17 | _law_ | Clearlook theme |
| 19:03.28 | koen | tigrux: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/Gallery/MexicoGulev2005 |
| 19:03.46 | florian_kc | hi dc__ |
| 19:03.56 | *** join/#gpe JAV (n=JAV@105.Red-80-34-40.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 19:04.07 | dc__ | yo folks |
| 19:04.20 | koen | hey dc__ |
| 19:04.27 | dc__ | hey.. |
| 19:04.34 | *** part/#gpe ade|desk (n=adavey@194.200.143.249) |
| 19:04.37 | tigrux | koen: Goergina And I still make fun when Geo says: "No te vayas Can-Cun!" (Don't go Can-Cun!) :-D |
| 19:04.40 | dc__ | I think I lack basic sql knowledge |
| 19:05.09 | dc__ | if have properties and bookings |
| 19:05.19 | dc__ | and properties has many bookings. |
| 19:05.24 | *** join/#gpe jt_dnb (n=not@209.121.65.171) |
| 19:06.06 | dc__ | how could I select properties,, ordered by number of bookings? |
| 19:11.06 | koen | select properties from <something> order by bookings ? |
| 19:12.07 | *** join/#gpe Timelord (n=TL@216.137.177.73) |
| 19:14.37 | TyggerBob | it was all filmed in a studio in his basement.. |
| 19:15.02 | TyggerBob | some National Geographic pictures of Mexico projected on the wall... |
| 19:15.57 | *** join/#gpe kammicazze (n=kammi@unaffiliated/kammicazze) |
| 19:17.29 | TyggerBob | If tigrux keeps investigating, he'll have an "accident" like Elliot Gould did |
| 19:18.38 | *** join/#gpe aboeglin (n=alex@dslb-084-056-024-011.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 19:18.41 | *** join/#gpe lolita__ (n=matthias@w216.wist.uni-linz.ac.at) |
| 19:27.46 | *** join/#gpe zap (n=zap@217.170.93.196) |
| 19:29.12 | *** join/#gpe obergix[home] (n=olivier@mag77-1-82-238-13-91.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:33.12 | *** join/#gpe shiyee (n=Shiyee@0x555146e5.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 19:33.43 | koen | gpe-todo 0.55 added to OE |
| 19:36.11 | *** join/#gpe lolita__ (n=matthias@w216.wist.uni-linz.ac.at) |
| 19:36.23 | *** join/#gpe mimecar (n=chatzill@53.Red-81-39-242.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 19:42.46 | *** join/#gpe pb_ (n=pb@cpc1-cmbg6-5-0-cust20.cmbg.cable.ntl.com) |
| 19:55.24 | *** join/#gpe JiniDog (n=jini@p54BFF404.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:02.22 | Mardy | what's the bb file for libstdc++6? |
| 20:02.46 | pb_ | gcc, I suppose. But that would be a question for the h4x0rs in #oe. |
| 20:03.07 | TyggerBob | hehehe.. |
| 20:03.33 | pb_ | heh. hi bob. |
| 20:03.41 | koen | if you look at the ipk control file, it should have a OE: field |
| 20:05.14 | TyggerBob | speaking of h4xors, koen, if you ever want me to run a quick VA scan of ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl, I'd be happy to do it :) |
| 20:05.31 | koen | go ahead :) |
| 20:05.35 | TyggerBob | nothing that should break things.. just to see if there are any gaping holes in it |
| 20:05.47 | koen | all ports expect 22 and 80 and monotone should be closed |
| 20:06.39 | koen | hh.org bug 533 can be closed as well |
| 20:07.29 | koen | pb_: is #795 still not resolved? |
| 20:07.59 | pb_ | I have no idea. |
| 20:10.33 | *** join/#gpe jsmanrique (n=jsmanriq@84.Red-81-38-140.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 20:25.30 | *** join/#gpe florian (n=fuchs@p50838C20.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:25.48 | florian | re |
| 20:26.28 | Philippe | hey florian wb. |
| 20:26.55 | Philippe | florian, what is the exact docbook2html command I need to use to generate the html from the dev manual? |
| 20:28.03 | pb_ | florian: good evening |
| 20:28.18 | florian | docbook2html devmanual.sgml should be okay. |
| 20:28.26 | florian | hi pb_ |
| 20:29.24 | Philippe | florian, hmm I get a slew of errors and it does not generate the table in it.. (not even with the original) |
| 20:32.13 | florian | oh... let me check if i introduced a bug. |
| 20:33.09 | *** join/#gpe lolita__ (n=matthias@w216.wist.uni-linz.ac.at) |
| 20:33.11 | Philippe | florian, that is what I get http://pastebin.com/442653 |
| 20:34.10 | *** join/#gpe katossi (n=guillerm@dslb-084-061-225-183.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 20:36.31 | *** join/#gpe univac (n=univac@amb140.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 20:41.24 | florian | Philippe: works for me, maybe some necessary package is missing. |
| 20:43.46 | *** join/#gpe Timelord0 (n=TL@216.137.177.73) |
| 20:44.50 | *** join/#gpe lolita__ (n=matthias@w216.wist.uni-linz.ac.at) |
| 20:45.51 | *** join/#gpe dopez (n=unknown@unaffiliated/dopez) |
| 20:49.11 | florian | I have docbook-html-forms, docbook-utils and sgmls-doc installed. |
| 20:52.07 | Philippe | I might not have docbook-html-forms |
| 20:52.13 | Philippe | let's see... |
| 20:53.02 | TyggerBob | koen, as expected.. locked down pretty well |
| 20:53.09 | TyggerBob | you might want to remove that default apache screen though. |
| 20:58.15 | *** part/#gpe jsmanrique (n=jsmanriq@84.Red-81-38-140.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 20:59.35 | *** join/#gpe _guillermo (n=guillerm@dslb-084-061-122-220.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 20:59.48 | Philippe | jesus openjade is slow... it can join monotone in the range of fast cpu eating processes ... |
| 21:00.03 | florian | yeah |
| 21:00.23 | florian | but monotone still beats this |
| 21:00.40 | Philippe | grrr, still the same error |
| 21:26.27 | florian | :-/ |
| 21:27.10 | Mardy | how can I enable the DGA extension on the Zaurus C860? I installed libxxf86dga, but xdpyinfo still doesn't list it |
| 21:28.17 | *** join/#gpe mimecar (n=chatzill@53.Red-81-39-242.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 21:29.39 | *** join/#gpe lolita__ (n=matthias@w216.wist.uni-linz.ac.at) |
| 21:29.40 | mimecar | evening |
| 21:31.02 | florian | hi mimecar |
| 21:31.59 | mimecar | hey florian |
| 21:35.47 | *** join/#gpe JiniDog (n=jini@p54BFEC78.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:38.55 | *** join/#gpe anomaly__ (n=bob@box3n.gumbynet.org) |
| 21:39.58 | *** join/#gpe kammicazze (n=kammi@unaffiliated/kammicazze) |
| 21:42.51 | mimecar | hi kammicazze |
| 21:43.03 | kammicazze | hi mimecar |
| 21:50.20 | *** join/#gpe unknown26 (n=fake@c-24-31-4-76.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 21:52.45 | *** join/#gpe florian_ (n=fuchs@p50838C20.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:53.09 | florian_ | hi unknown26 |
| 21:53.28 | unknown26 | florian_: Hello |
| 21:54.27 | unknown26 | florian: Do you think new users would find it usefull to have sortof a web-demo of the Gpe Enviroment E.G. Click here to open folder/program interface? |
| 21:57.10 | florian_ | unknown26: hmm... it isn't that easy to guess. but some tutorial describing an application window and the desktop would be useful at i think. |
| 21:57.28 | florian_ | I just hope users read doscumentation! |
| 21:57.56 | mimecar | that would be possible develop with flash |
| 21:58.00 | mimecar | and some screenshots |
| 21:58.08 | unknown26 | mimecar: That is what I was considering |
| 21:58.55 | mimecar | I think flash is easier than create with another program |
| 21:58.56 | florian_ | uh flash |
| 21:59.21 | mimecar | or animated gif |
| 21:59.27 | florian_ | I'd just do it in html and gimp. |
| 21:59.32 | unknown26 | mimecar: I was thinking of a web interface/image map that would allow for an easy push of new images as release progress. |
| 22:00.20 | florian_ | maybe, but i'd omit any interactive stuff or animation - thats not that useful for unexperienced users. |
| 22:00.46 | mimecar | florian not flash and interactive... |
| 22:00.54 | mimecar | a aimulation with firefox xul? |
| 22:01.01 | *** join/#gpe guillermo_ (n=guillerm@dslb-084-060-121-083.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:01.07 | mimecar | with screenshots, but interactive |
| 22:01.48 | florian_ | The would need time to take a look, so it is a bad idea to define a fixed time something takes - the user experience differs. |
| 22:02.06 | mimecar | an application with java that simulates gpe :p |
| 22:02.36 | florian_ | Philippe: Maybe you are usinf some different jade... my one doesn't talk that much. |
| 22:02.54 | florian_ | heh |
| 22:03.42 | florian_ | well.. some website with a complete emulation of a gpe system would be some kind of cool, but thats not too easy i guess. |
| 22:04.08 | mimecar | I agree with florian |
| 22:04.26 | mimecar | full interactive system would be an important task |
| 22:04.59 | unknown26 | mimecar: Full interaction as play the game available? |
| 22:05.11 | mimecar | for example |
| 22:05.33 | mimecar | you can add interactive |
| 22:05.39 | mimecar | with flash |
| 22:05.49 | mimecar | if you want use html, you need a image map |
| 22:08.13 | unknown26 | mimecar: What type of interaction would be available in flash but not an image map? |
| 22:09.09 | mimecar | both options have similar interaction |
| 22:09.31 | mimecar | you can define gpe programs box and change image after select it |
| 22:09.37 | florian | But flash isn't standarized, html and image maps are. |
| 22:09.55 | mimecar | true |
| 22:10.02 | mimecar | you will have many images |
| 22:10.21 | florian | indeed |
| 22:11.12 | unknown26 | florian: Perhaps I could make a flow chart and present it to you/the list for consideration? |
| 22:11.13 | koen | just start gpe on a device connectect to the internet and use a javabased vnc viewer :) |
| 22:11.27 | unknown26 | koen: Thats an idea! |
| 22:11.45 | unknown26 | :) |
| 22:11.45 | florian | Is there some available?! |
| 22:12.31 | florian | That would be pretty cool, i think i can grab some hardware for this purpose here. |
| 22:12.34 | mimecar | but you will need a fixed device |
| 22:12.51 | mimecar | limited with some commands |
| 22:13.30 | unknown26 | And what about multiple users? |
| 22:13.40 | florian | that wouldn't be too complicated - a website with explanations and some marked screenshots explaining how to use it and then the interactive thing. |
| 22:14.33 | florian | From what i know you should be able to log in separate sessions with a correct vnc configuration. |
| 22:14.53 | koen | start xephyr on some workstation/server, start xdamage vnc inside xephyr, done |
| 22:15.04 | koen | you won't even need a real gpe device |
| 22:16.05 | florian | hmm yes, but one with a complete system. but maybe we could use some spare netvista for that purpose. |
| 22:16.58 | florian | we would remove some things people could use to damage somethign (filemanager, rxvt..) |
| 22:17.42 | florian | If you could start a browser in gpe running via vnc in your browser would be cool. |
| 22:19.34 | mimecar | how many connections would accept gpe ? |
| 22:21.45 | florian | I guess only the amount of memory of the machine it runs on will limit this. Only gpe-dm we maybe need to replace. |
| 22:22.04 | pb_ | yah, gpe-dm doesn't have any support for remote logins. |
| 22:27.11 | florian | hmm... do we actually need this using a vnc xserver? |
| 22:28.51 | pb_ | good question. I'm not sure how that vnc stuff works. |
| 22:30.29 | florian | I did this for a robotics development system some time ago, iirc vnc managed the remote access. need to dig out that stuff tomorrow... |
| 22:31.51 | obergix[home] | florian, pb_ : any suggestion on how to submit a patch on gpe-contacts ? |
| 22:32.20 | pb_ | send it to the mailing list |
| 22:32.36 | pigeon | g'day pb_ |
| 22:32.42 | pb_ | pigeon: hello! |
| 22:33.04 | florian | obergix[home]: yep, that's a good idea. |
| 22:33.41 | florian | ~lart Nokia for breaking GtkCalendar resizing |
| 22:33.50 | obergix[home] | pb_: hmmm... let me guess... a specific one for gpe-contacts (/me's havin a look at the site...) |
| 22:34.24 | florian | obergix[home]: no.. just the gpe mailinglist |
| 22:34.46 | obergix[home] | florian: allrigh... think it's time for me to subscribe also ;) |
| 22:34.54 | florian | And do _not_ look at the "Projects" section of the website! ;) |
| 22:35.10 | florian | obergix[home]: thats always a good idea :-) |
| 22:35.21 | *** join/#gpe bedboi (n=bedboi@217.201.83.170) |
| 22:35.25 | unknown26 | Philippe: Your help viewer is reading which format? |
| 22:35.26 | pb_ | florian: heh |
| 22:35.27 | florian | bedboi: wb |
| 22:35.53 | florian | unknown26: html, Philippe is biking :-) |
| 22:36.46 | unknown26 | florian: Did you know if he wanted the documentation in docbook or html as the source? |
| 22:36.49 | florian | ehh... tough boy, a bike ride in Finland at this time of the year... |
| 22:37.29 | dc__ | oh dear... bash has me again |
| 22:37.31 | dc__ | "<Beeth> Girls are like internet domain names, the ones I like are already taken. |
| 22:37.31 | dc__ | <honx> well, you can stil get one from a strange country :-P" |
| 22:37.46 | dc__ | heh.... |
| 22:38.19 | florian | unknown26: I think at the moment plain html is the easiest way, but docbook might be useful to create a pdf/html/somewhat online manual some times. |
| 22:38.35 | florian | hmm... that doesn't answer the question |
| 22:38.40 | florian | dc__: heh |
| 22:46.02 | unknown26 | florian: Do you know where I can grab those icons used in GPE applications? |
| 22:48.57 | *** join/#gpe Yog (n=magnus@hades.27b-6.de) |
| 22:49.24 | florian | unknown26: These are the default GTK stock icons (they should be in the api online manual) and gpe-icons from the package of the same name. |
| 22:49.54 | unknown26 | florian: Ok, thank you |
| 22:50.59 | florian | unknown26: some packages ship their own pixmaps... but if necessary we could copy all to some webserver :-) |
| 22:51.42 | unknown26 | florian: I'll let you know if I need this. :) |
| 22:51.59 | florian | unknown26: okay |
| 22:52.52 | mimecar | unknown26: you can download icons from cvs |
| 22:53.12 | mimecar | if you copy icons from your device, you only will download a set of icons |
| 22:53.12 | florian | another idea... |
| 22:55.46 | *** join/#gpe CraHan (n=CraHan@111-123.244.81.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 23:03.23 | florian | good night |
| 23:06.21 | Philippe | re |
| 23:06.45 | Philippe | hey unknown26 |
| 23:07.08 | Philippe | help-viewer indeed does html (and even some javascript :-) |
| 23:08.18 | unknown26 | Philippe: Images too? |
| 23:12.11 | unknown26 | Philippe: I'm assuming |
| 23:19.13 | Philippe | unknown26, images too :-) |
| 23:29.01 | *** join/#gpe katossi (n=guillerm@dslb-084-060-121-083.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 23:50.15 | *** join/#gpe FortMax (n=aperez@pool-71-250-10-53.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) |
