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00:51.58TyggerBobrehi
00:53.25TyggerBobkoen|food, if you're still around.. what was the URL to that metaploit bb file that you gave me earlier.. I rebuilt my bitbakery and don't have it anymore, unfortunately.
00:53.46TyggerBobI checked your ../tmp dir, but it's not there.
01:15.31floriangood night
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09:27.30anomaly_is there another source for gpe-theme-industrial while dominion.kabel.utwente.nl is down?
09:35.46anomaly_koen: I can mirror it if you like
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11:48.02pb_dc__: morning
11:54.48dc__morning!
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14:09.44kammicazzehi
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14:17.04lardmanAny C experts about?
14:17.12lardman(for a slightly OT question)
14:19.08lardmanIn a line like this: printf("Hi: %d\n",0);, does the compiler automatically know that the 0 should be an int?
14:22.58pb_The C language doesn't guarantee that, but GCC does know.
14:23.10lardmanWould it be signed or unsigned?
14:23.14pb_Signed.
14:23.21pb_An unsigned int would be %u.
14:23.26lardmanAh, okay
14:23.29lardmanThanks
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15:01.16kammicazzewhat should i use on my ipaq5450, bluez-util-nodbus or dbus?
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15:03.58mimecarhi
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15:04.30kammicazzei mimecar, koen
15:04.55mimecarhi kammicazze  and koen|770
15:05.09mimecarkoen|770: do you have some minutes?
15:05.59lardmanmimecar: driven him away ;)
15:06.20mimecarhi lardman
15:06.26lardmanhow are you?
15:06.32mimecarfine, thanks
15:06.40mimecarfighting with my zaurus (again)
15:06.59lardmanwho's winning? ;)
15:07.10mimecarmy zaurus
15:07.30lardmanwhat's up?
15:07.49mimecarzaurus doesn't want update from koen feed
15:08.00lardmansfeed one?
15:08.10mimecaryes
15:08.19lardmanPerhaps there's nothing new in there
15:08.23mimecarI think problem is on my side
15:08.31mimecari reformated zaurus
15:08.35lardmancan you get the package list?
15:08.39mimecaryes
15:08.43mimecarthat's the strange
15:08.58mimecari get the packages, but it looks it doesn't find packages
15:09.12lardmanhmm, dunno I'm afraid
15:09.15mimecarpb said me yesterday it could be a different architecture
15:09.21mimecarbut it worked before
15:09.23mimecardon't worry
15:09.26lardmanyes, but the sfeed should work
15:09.32lardmanshould be the same arch
15:09.42mimecari'll wait some time
15:09.47lardmanok
15:10.00mimecarxDD
15:18.24mimecarlardman: did you get your cafeine?
15:18.59lardmanYes thanks :)
15:19.22kammicazzegrrr Use% 98% :(
15:19.31mimecarkammicazze: ??
15:19.38kammicazzemy device
15:20.17mimecarwhat's th eproblem ?
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15:20.49kammicazzeno space left on my device but almost nothing installed :)
15:20.52kammicazze:(
15:21.07mimecarOZ 3.5.4 RC ?
15:21.18kammicazzeipaq 5450
15:21.28kammicazzefamiliar
15:22.01mimecarit's posible you haven't free space after install image file
15:22.17kammicazzeand how do i do that?
15:22.39kammicazzei just saw list_dir ext /var/lists
15:22.40mimecarif image left less than 2 % of free memory
15:22.55lardmanthe base image often takes up almost all of the internal flash space
15:22.58mimecaryou should unisnstall programas if you want more free space
15:23.02lardmanhow large is the flash on your iPAQ?
15:23.14lardmanOr get an SD card....
15:23.24kammicazze32mb, and i have a sd
15:23.34lardmanOh, shouldn't have so little left then
15:23.47lardmanDo you have the list_dir ext /var/lists thing in place?
15:23.57kammicazzeno, gonnna do it now
15:24.22lardmanthen make sure you delete the existing Packages files from /usr/lib/ipkg/<something - can't remember what>
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15:27.00mimecarhey koen|770
15:27.42koen|770hi mimecar
15:27.57mimecarkoen|770: is there a change on your feed structure ?
15:28.14mimecarI can download package list, but I can not install new packages
15:29.00kammicazzecan i delete all files in /usr/lib/ipkg/info?
15:29.00koen|770it should be the same as before
15:29.15mimecarI reflash my device
15:29.56mimecarand I can't upgrade now (mirror feed of OZ works)
15:31.32mimecarit's a bit strange
15:32.33lardmanDid you reflash with a newer image? I think koen said his feed was a bit out of date?
15:33.06mimecarI reflashed with the 3.5.3 image
15:33.24mimecaris not the latest version, it's the version I used before
15:34.10mimecarfor example, with gpe-calendar
15:34.17lardmanThere must be an error when you try to install it?
15:34.23mimecaryes
15:34.43mimecarI manually installed latest version from the feed
15:35.15mimecarbut zaurus doesn't want that version and tries to install the latest "actual" version, ie, version I have
15:35.37lardmanwhat are the version numbers? cvs in it messes things up
15:35.52mimecarlatest version is 0.65
15:36.16mimecarlardman: do you have a pocket pc ?
15:38.46kammicazzestrange i see qtpalmtop in /opt. What is it doing there? is this needed for gpe?
15:39.35lardmanmimecar: nope, Zaurus 2l5500 & c750 & Nokia 770
15:39.44lardmans/2l/sl
15:39.49koen|770<PROTECTED>
15:40.04mimecarlardman: do you have koen feed activate ?
15:40.19lardmanmimecar: I don't have my Zaurus with me atm I'm afraid
15:40.36kammicazzekoen, so i can savely remove all those stuff
15:41.00mimecar:(
15:41.14lardmankammicazze: yes - /opt is only used by Opie
15:41.15koen|770kammicazze: yes
15:41.22kammicazzek, thx
15:41.24mimecarI'm getting crazy with this problem
15:41.31lardmanmimecar: what were the version numbers?
15:41.41lardmanmimecar: what is the exact error it produces?
15:41.57mimecarI haven't gpe on zaurus now
15:42.15lardmanok
15:42.19mimecarmore or less i want install al latest version giving the link address
15:42.31mimecarbut it doesn't find a suitable version
15:42.34lardmanmimecar: ipkg in 3.5.3 was troublesome anyway afair
15:42.51mimecarok
15:43.08mimecari'll test again with 3.5.4 final version
15:44.23mimecari was using opie today
15:44.47mimecarthere's a different between 2 environment
15:44.51mimecarwith applicaciones
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15:45.39mimecargpe had less time for development
15:45.42mimecarhi TyggerBob
15:46.59lardmanmimecar: careful ;)
15:47.24TyggerBobHey guys
15:47.35lardmanhi TyggerBob
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15:54.23mimecarhey florian
15:54.23floriangood morning
15:55.00TyggerBobHey florian ..
15:55.04TyggerBobstill can't get gpe to build..
15:55.06TyggerBobfails on dbus still
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16:00.35florianoh... can you pastebin the error message?
16:01.39TyggerBobwill do
16:04.06TyggerBobhttp://pastebin.ca/29620
16:11.51TyggerBobhad the same problem with .dev
16:12.27florianhrm... that seems to be configured to build python bindings. i don't think that's a good idea.
16:15.01pb_florian: good morning
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16:16.25florianhi pb_
16:23.05TyggerBobHeya Phil
16:24.03Philippehello all
16:24.46pb_hi bob
16:24.48pb_hi philippe
16:25.09Philippehey pb_
16:27.52florianhi Philippe
16:29.07Philippehello florian
16:40.16mimecarI have found the solution of the problem (I think)
16:41.42mimecarlardman: I think i found the problem
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17:01.42lardmanmimecar: Oh good, what was it?
17:01.54mimecararchitecture
17:02.04mimecarthere's a mix of architectures on the feed
17:02.08mimecararm5te and arm
17:02.21mimecarpackage info only include the first architecture
17:02.24lardmanAh, this isn't an issue for me as I've only used my C750 with that feed
17:02.54lardmanmimecar: the SA1110 in your 5500 is only arm4
17:03.36mimecaryes
17:04.08mimecaryou have both packages on the feed
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17:05.16mimecargpe-calendar_0.65-r0_armv5te.ipk      
17:05.21lardmanbetter let koen know then
17:05.24mimecargpe-clock-locale-cs_0.21-r0_arm.ipk  
17:05.36mimecaryesm I will tell him later
17:09.30mimecaris there any rtf editor?
17:11.45Philippemimecar, I think only abiword can handle those (on gpe)
17:12.01PhilippeWell if you feel like it you can try Openoffice :-)
17:12.13mimecari'm not crazy :p
17:12.23mimecarI want a lighter editor
17:12.29mimecarsuch us gpe-editor
17:15.39mimecarPhilippe: has gpe-mini-browser open local file button? :)
17:16.09Philippemimecar, almost. I am struggeling with sqlite atm to enable people to chose their own homepage.
17:16.42mimecarcan you launch a webpage from console, aren't you?
17:16.51Philippethe open local file dialog will be next together with a new icon
17:17.06Philippemimecar, yes you can! Good no :-)
17:17.25mimecaryou can modify information for launcher
17:18.34Philippemimecar, yes I could but it is not very nice. And you would lose your homepage on an upgrade
17:18.34mimecarie, gpe-mini-browser myhomepage.html
17:18.49mimecaryes
17:19.11PhilippeI might use that to start gpe-mini-browser with some basic "howto use the browser" webpage
17:20.18mimecaror
17:20.34mimecarHow can I use gpe without die on the subject
17:20.34mimecar:P
17:23.19mimecarI must go out now
17:23.22mimecarsee you later
17:34.49lardmannight all
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17:54.00Tygger_Bobrehi
17:59.03Tygger_Bobflorian, I noticed that when I tried to build Python, it fails as well. the SRC_URI doesn't seem to be correct.
17:59.20Tygger_BobI think it's because they've moved to 2.4.2 vice 2.4.1 (I guess)
17:59.45Tygger_BobI went to the Python website, got the uri for the source file and put that in the bb file and it seems to be working.
18:00.13Tygger_BobOnce python is successfully compiled, I'll take another crack at GPE.. may be it'll find that bindings file this time.
18:01.43Tygger_BobDoe the bootstrap image have python on it?
18:03.27Tygger_Bob%s/Doe/Does/
18:06.33Tygger_BobAck, erp. .phttttt..
18:06.36Tygger_BobNope..
18:06.39Tygger_Bobstill fails :(
18:08.15Tygger_BobHere's the output again..
18:08.16Tygger_Bob<PROTECTED>
18:08.16Tygger_Bob| make[3]: [dbus_bindings.c] Error 1 (ignored)
18:08.18Tygger_Boboops. .
18:08.35Tygger_Bobhttp://pastebin.ca/29682  <====== Here it is!
18:15.02Tygger_Bobhrm.. from the mailing list, it doesn't appear that I'm the only one with this problem.
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18:15.50law|clamshellhi
18:18.00Tygger_BobHeya Law
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18:21.19law|clamshellhi Tygger_Bob
18:24.59molivierhi all
18:27.05Tygger_Bobhi molivier
18:34.44Tygger_BobAHA!!!!
18:35.01Tygger_Bobflorian, if you build python-dbus before you build gpe, it works!!!!
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18:38.52law|clamshelldriving home now :-)
18:38.58law|clamshellcu
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18:53.18florianhi molivier
18:53.22florianhi lolita__
18:53.29molivierhi florian
18:53.41lolita__florian ... gooe evening !
18:54.31moliviersomeone use oz 3.5.4 on poodle ?
18:54.32florianTygger_Bob: ah that can't be correct
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18:57.21mimecarre
18:58.28florianmimecar: wb
18:59.01mimecarhi florian
19:03.38lolita__florian where do you push the pixels to?
19:04.37Tygger_Bobhehehe
19:04.43lolita__florian ... hm ... i'm afraid those arrow keys are still missing in gtk on maemo .. i should replace the arrow buttons used in gpe-calendar with "homegrown" ones for IS_HILDON
19:04.47Tygger_Bobwell.. correct or no. it works for me..
19:05.05Tygger_BobKoen probably doesn't see it because he has a more "world"ly build process
19:05.09Tygger_Bobmaking the different images
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19:07.22florianlolita__: hmm... on which platform/image?
19:07.43lolita__770/nokia
19:07.49florianlolita__: I'm fixing some remaining rendering issues in the calendar ui.
19:08.07florianlolita__: even in the cvs version?
19:08.17florianTygger_Bob: :-)
19:08.47lolita__florian ... give me a note when you finished fixing this rendering stuff ... then i'll have a look with your code ...
19:10.52florianlolita__: okay
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19:26.18mimecarJAV: are you spanish?
19:26.41JAVhello mimecar, yes I am :D
19:26.52mimecarI think so
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19:33.51mimecarhi molivier
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20:04.27mimecaris sqlite the library for acces gpe data, isn't it?
20:04.39mimecarno another library works
20:07.47niklashmimecar, The gpe data for calendar, etc. is stored in ~/.gpe in sqlite databases.
20:07.48florianmimecar: that depends on what you intend to do, but yes - gpe is using sqlite for data storage.
20:13.04mimecari want acces with java to sqlite data
20:13.10mimecaris not easy
20:14.20pb_yah, you might need to provide a JNI wrapper around sqlite.
20:14.31pb_or re-implement sqlite in java, but that doesn't sound like such a good option
20:15.03mimecaryes
20:15.09pb_or, if you can live with the constraints, use nsqld to wrap sqlite and talk to it over a socket.
20:15.18mimecarI can do the connection with python witout problems
20:15.35mimecarbut I must learn java,..
20:16.12mimecarfor example, I want open a sqlite database on pc side
20:17.19florianI think there should be some solution for sqlite and java already...
20:17.52mimecaryes, but is not trivial
20:18.03mimecari must use a c compiler for windows and linux
20:21.01mimecari must go out
20:21.04mimecarbyes
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21:49.39Philippenight all
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21:52.52florianhi Skyhusker
21:52.59Skyhuskerhi all
21:53.10Skyhuskerhey florian
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22:33.16florianibot: botmail for lolita__ I just checked in my changes, please take a look - i'm going to release that stuff soon.
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22:45.54kammicazzehi, i try to make a connection with my bluetooth gps receiver. The device /dev/rfcomm0 doesn't exist. Do i have to create the node myself or is there something like devfs or udev who has to handle this for me under gpe?
22:49.27florianThat would be specifig for the distribution you are on, but iirc some tool will create that node for you in Familiar.
22:49.39kammicazzeor should i use /dev/bluetooth/rfcomm/0 ?
22:50.39kammicazzehm, i'm using familiar
22:51.13florianthat sounds good
22:52.03kammicazzeyes, but i can't find the device
22:53.32floriankammicazze: hmm wrong serial settings?
22:54.10TyggerBobdarn..  I'm so close to having a working gpe image..
22:54.21kammicazzei do a cat </dev/rfcomm0, no such device
22:54.26TyggerBobI can't get to dominion to get the industrial theme files :(
22:56.05kammicazzeflorian, hmm, got something. I have to rfcomm bind /dev/bluetooth/rfcomm/0 <MAC>
23:01.29florianTyggerBob: :-/
23:01.35floriankammicazze: ah right
23:02.33kammicazzeflorian, shouldn't that go automaticaly when bluetooth starts up if i configured /etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf?
23:04.48floriankammicazze: i don't know, but i guess so...
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