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| 00:24.40 | kammicazze | nite all |
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| 00:37.46 | florian_kc | ibot: botmail for kammicazze install libcairo2 with -force-depends, that should be safe. |
| 00:43.24 | florian_kc | good night |
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| 03:05.01 | rob_ | it's been about 9 months since i've looked at gpe... kinda gave up on it |
| 03:05.25 | rob_ | so i have an ipaq 3630 and was going to see the latest stable release.. |
| 03:05.40 | rob_ | i click on the "download" button on the website and it doesn't even work |
| 03:06.13 | rob_ | http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/latest/ |
| 03:09.02 | rob_ | is this project done? |
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| 06:51.12 | kammicazze | morning |
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| 09:24.51 | kammicazze | i'm stuck with gpe. Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for libcairo2: libx11-6 (>= 6.2.1cvs20050830) |
| 09:25.20 | kammicazze | so rosetta doesn't work and i get an error starting up gpe-dm |
| 09:25.30 | kammicazze | any id? |
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| 09:31.32 | bedboi | hi there |
| 09:32.43 | kammicazze | hi |
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| 09:41.41 | kammicazze | bedboi, do you know something about gpe-2.7? |
| 09:41.59 | bedboi | about release date? |
| 09:42.02 | bedboi | no sorry |
| 09:42.06 | kammicazze | no |
| 09:42.09 | kammicazze | i'm stuck with gpe. Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for libcairo2: libx11-6 (>= 6.2.1cvs20050830) |
| 09:42.33 | bedboi | you should ask to koen when he shows up |
| 09:43.09 | kammicazze | i'm waiting :) |
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| 09:49.22 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 09:50.16 | bedboi | hey florian_kc |
| 09:50.28 | florian_kc | hi bedboi |
| 09:51.02 | kammicazze | good morning |
| 09:51.26 | kammicazze | florian_kc, got your message, but still got problems |
| 09:51.40 | kammicazze | florian_kc, Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for libcairo2: libx11-6 (>= 6.2.1cvs20050830) |
| 09:51.55 | kammicazze | waiting for koen ;) |
| 09:56.44 | _law_ | hi florian_kc |
| 10:01.14 | florian_kc | kammicazze: that feed seems to be a little bit inconsistent, if you use -force-depends that message a only a warning. |
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| 10:03.50 | kammicazze | hmm, now i got an alignment trap: gpe-login |
| 10:04.23 | kammicazze | daemon.info gpe-dm exited with status 1 |
| 10:05.30 | kammicazze | morning koen |
| 10:05.41 | florian_kc | kammicazze: oh... that's strange indeed. |
| 10:05.58 | florian_kc | hi koen |
| 10:15.13 | kammicazze | koen, can you help me with that bug? |
| 10:17.08 | koen | 'morning all |
| 10:18.15 | _law_ | hi koen |
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| 10:22.45 | bedboi | florian_kc: how is the gpe porting to n770 work going on? |
| 10:23.21 | bedboi | i'm becoming to be fed up with maemo :) |
| 10:23.28 | bedboi | i want to have a totally free n770 |
| 10:23.29 | bedboi | :) |
| 10:36.02 | florian_kc | bedboi: heh okay... http://www.kernelconcepts.de/~fuchs/nokia770/experimental/gpe-image-nokia770-20051107165915.rootfs.jffs2 ;-) |
| 10:43.11 | florian_kc | bedboi: but thats really experimental so far... the hardware controls are still lacking. |
| 10:46.32 | rob_w-cgi | what newsreader does the 770 use ? |
| 10:47.05 | florian_kc | I think that's something new. |
| 10:47.30 | rob_w-cgi | can we have that in gpe ? |
| 10:48.01 | florian_kc | bedboi: While we are talking about ideas: If we would use the plugin stiff for the desktop we could do quite some crazy things.... |
| 10:55.10 | koen | any idea how to fix the scrollbar issues in http://handhelds.org/scap/port.11371.png ? |
| 10:58.21 | florian_kc | ah... yes, wait |
| 10:59.37 | florian_kc | That code should be in latest gpe-today... |
| 11:04.45 | bedboi | florian_kc: yep |
| 11:04.51 | bedboi | that's no problem |
| 11:05.01 | koen | the pluginsystem could be used by networksetting to embed aerial/prismstumbler |
| 11:05.26 | florian_kc | another good idea... |
| 11:05.28 | bedboi | koen: that must be some bug in my porting code, because it was a really quick hack |
| 11:05.45 | florian_kc | bedboi: maybe i changed this later... |
| 11:05.57 | bedboi | florian_kc: it should be rather easy |
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| 11:06.10 | florian_kc | hrm... and a new keyboard ;-) |
| 11:09.25 | koen | florian_kc: fng_sma will try to make a release/update of gpe-opensync this weekend |
| 11:13.30 | kammicazze | koen, nice |
| 11:13.35 | florian_kc | koen: that's good news! then i just hope for opensync in debian and ubuntu |
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| 11:26.49 | _law_ | juhu, matchbox-applet-cards now work!! |
| 11:28.48 | koen | what's that? |
| 11:28.49 | florian_kc | _law_: oh cool |
| 11:29.39 | _law_ | koen, mount/unmount applet for sd/cf cards |
| 11:29.44 | koen | ah, cool |
| 11:30.11 | _law_ | koen, will post an patch later |
| 11:32.42 | kammicazze | koen, any id on this? alignment trap: gpe-login |
| 11:32.57 | kammicazze | koen and Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for libcairo2: libx11-6 (>= 6.2.1cvs20050830) |
| 11:33.27 | koen | libcairo2? |
| 11:34.04 | kammicazze | yeh, i had problems with rosetta |
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| 11:40.09 | kammicazze | koen: http://pastebot.nd.edu/398 |
| 11:40.55 | koen | I think your upgrade pulled in newer (and incompatible) stuff |
| 11:41.03 | koen | like cairo 1.x and dbus 0.50 |
| 11:41.33 | kammicazze | how should i fix this? |
| 11:47.35 | kammicazze | or is it unfixable? |
| 11:50.58 | koen | downgrade the affected packages |
| 11:51.13 | koen | or upgrade to packages able to handle the new dbus and cairo |
| 11:52.34 | _law_ | where should i post the patch? oe bugzilla? |
| 11:53.19 | koen | what's the patch for? |
| 11:55.30 | _law_ | koen, matchbox-applet-cards |
| 11:55.40 | _law_ | its an pdax port |
| 11:55.54 | koen | http://bugzilla.o-hand.com/ would be the place for that I guess |
| 11:56.13 | koen | if you want it in OE too attach it to bugs.oe.org |
| 11:57.02 | _law_ | koen, i think there is an package already or? i have one in repo :-) |
| 11:57.02 | rob_w-cgi | so what kind of newsreader is that at the 770 and /or is something available like that on gpe ? |
| 11:58.19 | kammicazze | koen, so i should in this case downgrade pango-modules-basic-x ? |
| 11:59.31 | koen | _law_: there is? which one? |
| 11:59.53 | _law_ | koen, matchbox-applet-cards_1.0.1.bb ? |
| 11:59.55 | florian_kc | koen: imho that applet isn't done my o-hand... |
| 12:00.13 | florian_kc | rob_w-cgi: not really... |
| 12:00.19 | _law_ | its dont by pdaxrom i think |
| 12:02.22 | koen | _law_: I can't find that package in my repo :( |
| 12:02.51 | _law_ | hmm, so i have done that my self, month ago :-) |
| 12:03.10 | _law_ | i?ll post .bb file incl. patch @ oe bugzilla |
| 12:05.09 | koen | ok :) |
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| 12:07.46 | _law_ | but there is only one problem. you have to start this applet as root, because only root can access cardctl :-( |
| 12:08.47 | koen | is it possible to setuid or use gpe-su? |
| 12:12.31 | _law_ | koen, i dont know how i can run gpe-su withou starting a rxvt term |
| 12:12.49 | _law_ | with gpe-su it works, but with term :-) |
| 12:13.50 | koen | gpe-conf uses it too |
| 12:15.00 | florian_kc | _law_: gpe-su -c command iirc |
| 12:15.24 | florian_kc | koen: that's not true... gpe-conf is a two-process thingy. |
| 12:18.31 | _law_ | florian_kc, gpe-su -c mb-applet-cards starts the applet but eject doesnt work :-( |
| 12:19.14 | florian_kc | _law_: strange... any error messages? |
| 12:19.49 | _law_ | http://helmsdeep.homelinux.net/~pat/oz-gpe.patch |
| 12:20.17 | _law_ | http://helmsdeep.homelinux.net/~pat/matchbox-applet-cards_1.0.2.bb |
| 12:20.26 | _law_ | perhabs someone can look at it |
| 12:20.59 | _law_ | if i start it from an gpe-su term all works fine |
| 12:22.58 | florian_kc | i wonder what could be different... |
| 12:23.40 | florian_kc | *g* |
| 12:27.42 | koen | that applet could use some love |
| 12:28.21 | _law_ | new tango icons :-) |
| 12:28.41 | kammicazze | what should i use for a ipaq 5450? arm or arm5te? |
| 12:28.55 | koen | doesn't really matter, it can handle both |
| 12:28.59 | kammicazze | k |
| 12:29.30 | kammicazze | where are the ipk stored? |
| 12:29.36 | kammicazze | on the device? |
| 12:30.07 | koen | ipkgs aren't stored on the device, the status file fir ipkg is at /usr/lib/ipkg |
| 12:30.48 | _law_ | oh no tango icon for cf/sd card yet |
| 12:32.03 | koen | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.14086.png |
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| 12:33.26 | koen | but where's this card: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.14148.png ? |
| 12:33.41 | _law_ | koen, is that with kernel 2.4 ? |
| 12:33.47 | koen | it is |
| 12:33.56 | koen | it only displays one cf slot |
| 12:35.19 | kammicazze | if i do this, he tells me he can't find the file : ipkg install --force-downgrade dbus-1_0.23.4-r1_arm.ipk , but it is listed on the familiar.handhelds.org feed |
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| 12:35.53 | koen | use the full url |
| 12:35.59 | kammicazze | ok |
| 12:36.39 | koen | ugh |
| 12:36.48 | koen | that applet is wrong/broken in so many ways |
| 12:37.07 | koen | 1) doesn't list all cf slots |
| 12:37.21 | koen | 2) performs some unknown/random action on clicking |
| 12:39.43 | koen | 3) doesn't dissappear when clicking the icon again |
| 12:40.20 | _law_ | koen, have to click on the taskbar :-) |
| 12:42.46 | chipi | pretty woman, walking down the street... |
| 12:43.37 | bedboi | anyone is aware of any port of x2x ? |
| 12:43.52 | bedboi | i would like to use my ipaq || n770 as a wireless mose |
| 12:43.53 | bedboi | mouse |
| 12:43.56 | bedboi | or keyboard |
| 12:43.57 | koen | hey chipi |
| 12:44.14 | bedboi | i would like to show this application in my LinuxDay talk |
| 12:44.41 | bedboi | and as a side note latex-beamer is cool |
| 12:44.42 | bedboi | :) |
| 12:44.58 | _law_ | koen, perhabs i should add some more patches :-) |
| 12:45.49 | koen | _law_: it would be nice if the applet actually mentions what it's going to do on a click |
| 12:46.01 | koen | like 'tap to eject' |
| 12:46.05 | _law_ | but first i have to b |
| 12:46.13 | florian_kc | koen: and these pixmaps are ugly... |
| 12:46.42 | _law_ | florian_kc, should i replace them with that from gnome? |
| 12:46.58 | _law_ | florian_kc, have you tested it with gpe-su ? |
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| 12:48.16 | koen | hey mallum |
| 12:48.44 | florian_kc | _law_: That would be better... using pixmaps with company logos is never a good idea. |
| 12:48.53 | mallum | hey koen |
| 12:49.07 | florian_kc | _law_: not yet, i hope for soem free seconds later... |
| 12:49.11 | florian_kc | hi mallum |
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| 12:52.05 | florian_kc | hi shiyee |
| 12:52.09 | florian_kc | brb, food |
| 12:52.13 | shiyee | hi florian_kc :-) |
| 12:52.14 | _law_ | florian_kc, i know but these are the default icons from pdax |
| 12:52.15 | mallum | hey florian_kc |
| 12:56.21 | kammicazze | grr, how do i downgrade a package? ipkg install -force-downgrade pkg.ipk doesn't work. Should i remove it? |
| 12:56.40 | kammicazze | and then reinstall it? |
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| 13:28.12 | koen | bedboi: latex-beamer is indeed very cool |
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| 13:33.11 | florian_kc | re |
| 13:33.27 | TyggerBob | Morning all |
| 13:33.34 | florian_kc | _law_: that doesn't make it better... |
| 13:33.42 | florian_kc | kammicazze: yes |
| 13:33.44 | TyggerBob | Hey.. I have a quick question.. |
| 13:33.45 | koen | hey TyggerBob |
| 13:33.52 | florian_kc | hi TyggerBob |
| 13:33.57 | kammicazze | florian_kc, done |
| 13:34.14 | TyggerBob | I've been using links with the x driver for a lot of my browsing on my desktop.. it's WICKED fast... |
| 13:34.32 | kammicazze | gonna try to downgrade all packages till gpe-dm starts up again :( |
| 13:34.50 | TyggerBob | I installed the links version for GPE, and _apparently_ it supports the fb driver, but I can't seem to get it work.. |
| 13:35.51 | TyggerBob | just wondering if there's anything I should be doing differently? or is it just not going to work within the confines of GPE? |
| 13:35.51 | kammicazze | can i do a sort of ependencies check with ipkg, to see if all my dependencies are ok? |
| 13:36.13 | kammicazze | s/ependencies/dependencies/ |
| 13:49.17 | TyggerBob | koen, do we have any glade stuff in GPE or is it too hefty? |
| 13:50.09 | koen | libglade is pretty small iirc |
| 13:50.48 | TyggerBob | ahh.. |
| 13:51.22 | TyggerBob | Yes.. I found it.. thanks.. What I was looking for was the python bindings for glade... |
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| 13:51.35 | TyggerBob | I need them for my Canvas pentesting tool. |
| 13:51.56 | TyggerBob | screen's probably too small, though... |
| 13:56.12 | TyggerBob | what would be the cat's pajamas would be to get the metasploit console working on Familiar... |
| 13:57.49 | TyggerBob | hrm.. that's mostly perl based.. |
| 13:57.53 | TyggerBob | I'm going to take a look at that.. |
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| 14:05.26 | Tygger_Bob | arg.. back... |
| 14:05.37 | Tygger_Bob | pesky cable internet |
| 14:07.07 | kammicazze | koen, florian_kc : it's up and running again. many thx for your help. I know i am anoying, but i have so much to learn ;). Hope one day it will be better so i can be of a help instead of a block on your leg. |
| 14:09.37 | Tygger_Bob | and hopes it wasn't as recent as this week:) |
| 14:10.04 | florian_kc | kammicazze: yw :-) We started in the same way... |
| 14:29.37 | koen | florian_kc: does the hildon version of gpe-calendar pop up a 'send via ir' button too? |
| 14:33.46 | florian_kc | koen: currently it does... not available of course. you caaaaaaaan take a look, i updated the libgpevtype and gpe-calendar packages. |
| 14:34.06 | florian_kc | hrm... i wonder what is up with this keyboard :-/ |
| 14:39.09 | _law_ | florian_kc, gpe-su -c cardctl info also doesnt work perhabs the path wouldnt be loaded? |
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| 14:43.12 | florian_kc | _law_: that might be possible... |
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| 14:44.23 | _law_ | florian_kc, any ideas how i can fix this? |
| 14:44.46 | Tygger_Bob | speaking of keyboards.. what the iPAQ attachable keyboard support like these days? |
| 14:45.29 | koen | heh |
| 14:45.41 | koen | gpe-calendar allows access to / via 'save' |
| 14:45.45 | florian_kc | _law_: call stuff in /sbin with the complete path |
| 14:46.07 | florian_kc | zecke: hi |
| 14:46.12 | koen | florian_kc: I think using the gtk-filechooser would be better for maemo |
| 14:47.10 | florian_kc | Tygger_Bob: not that many changes so far... do you know about the gpe-conf support to configure kbdd? |
| 14:47.13 | zecke | re |
| 14:47.15 | zecke | hey |
| 14:47.17 | florian_kc | koen: really? ;-) |
| 14:47.40 | Tygger_Bob | hrm.. trying to remember.. in the serial setup? |
| 14:48.04 | florian_kc | Tygger_Bob: not anymore... there is "Keys&Buttons" now. |
| 14:48.57 | koen | those gpe-calendar popup should really have a border |
| 14:49.52 | koen | hmmm |
| 14:50.08 | koen | the weekview is cut off on the right |
| 14:50.34 | kammicazze | in what package is gpe-setbg? |
| 14:51.48 | Tygger_Bob | florian_kc, this looks very nice.. |
| 14:52.01 | Tygger_Bob | going to try it out with my stowaway-xt |
| 14:52.10 | JiniDog | how can I handle this: GPE-ERROR: database is locked ? |
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| 14:54.42 | Tygger_Bob | :( |
| 14:54.52 | Tygger_Bob | does not seem to like my stowaway.. |
| 14:56.16 | Tygger_Bob | or my snapntype.. |
| 14:56.36 | Tygger_Bob | investigating |
| 14:57.29 | bedboi | florian_kc: are you there? |
| 14:58.06 | bedboi | koen: please add boders. i don't have any clue about how to do it |
| 14:58.12 | bedboi | i spent some hours investigating |
| 14:58.49 | Tygger_Bob | bedboi, you have external keyboards, don't you? Have you had much luck with them recently? |
| 14:59.14 | bedboi | with my ipaq there's no problem, btw i've not used recently |
| 14:59.21 | bedboi | i have problems with my ipaq |
| 14:59.30 | bedboi | the power connector is faulty |
| 14:59.49 | bedboi | and i should put the battery in learning mode |
| 14:59.51 | bedboi | but no way |
| 15:03.17 | Tygger_Bob | ahh.. getty was enabled on the serial port... |
| 15:03.26 | Tygger_Bob | in iniittab |
| 15:03.47 | florian_kc | kammicazze: that's not used anymore... matchbox-desktop handles this. |
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| 15:04.06 | Tygger_Bob | Hi Phil |
| 15:04.12 | pb_ | hi all |
| 15:04.48 | florian_kc | bedboi: to some extent... trying to do some business work, gpe-calendar and irc at the same time. |
| 15:04.57 | bedboi | ehehe |
| 15:05.11 | JiniDog | I have an important contact in this "locked" database |
| 15:05.22 | florian_kc | pb_: hey! what are you doing there?! |
| 15:06.19 | bedboi | florian_kc: what about incouraging people to develop stuff in plugins? |
| 15:06.26 | bedboi | i don't see any drawbacks |
| 15:06.32 | pb_ | florian_kc: visiting one of our subcontractors |
| 15:07.37 | florian_kc | bedboi: that's true... i think we should show some cool stuff, maybe release a gpe-today with plugins and maybe write some lines of documentaton and i can imagine people will use it. |
| 15:07.53 | bedboi | yep |
| 15:08.11 | bedboi | well gpe-today just works |
| 15:08.18 | florian_kc | pb_: cool... i need a cutomer from this area ;-) |
| 15:08.24 | florian_kc | eh customer |
| 15:08.36 | Tygger_Bob | hrm.. florian_kc when I set the keyboard port and type in Keys and Buttons, the port gets saved, but the keyboard type does not.. |
| 15:09.14 | Tygger_Bob | am I doing something wrong? |
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| 15:09.19 | florian_kc | pb_: Nils is somewhere in the us currently... they told him saturday that it would be a good idea to come to a meeting tuesday ;-) |
| 15:10.17 | pb_ | florian_kc: ah, heh. |
| 15:10.37 | pb_ | yeah, they told me at about lunchtime yesterday that it would be a good idea for me to come here. |
| 15:10.45 | florian_kc | Tygger_Bob: the new type doesn't show up in the config file? that would be a bug... |
| 15:10.59 | florian_kc | pb_: heh, cool... |
| 15:11.06 | Tygger_Bob | the config file is /etc/gconf/...? |
| 15:11.36 | kammicazze | hmm, problems with gpe-sync |
| 15:11.49 | kammicazze | Mapping write error |
| 15:12.06 | kammicazze | unable to write contact |
| 15:13.26 | Tygger_Bob | never mind.. it's /etc/kbdd.conf, and it is there, just not being read back, it seems |
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| 15:14.45 | mimecar | evening |
| 15:16.06 | kammicazze | hi mimecar |
| 15:16.15 | mimecar | hi kammicazze |
| 15:16.15 | florian_kc | kammicazze: nasty... maybe mail a description to the mailinglist or file a bug against it, for some reason Martin doesn't seem to use irc that frequently. |
| 15:16.23 | florian_kc | mimecar: hi |
| 15:16.30 | mimecar | hey florian_kc |
| 15:16.48 | Tygger_Bob | florian_kc, got it.. |
| 15:16.59 | Tygger_Bob | but there does seem to be a bug.. |
| 15:17.19 | kammicazze | florian_kc, ok |
| 15:17.20 | Tygger_Bob | the serial port is written as /dev/ttyS0, (older iPAQs?) |
| 15:17.33 | Tygger_Bob | /dev/tts/0 works fine |
| 15:18.36 | florian_kc | hmm... okay, another task for the device control: serial port names. |
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| 15:49.51 | Tygger_Bob | anyone here doing much perl work? |
| 15:50.20 | Tygger_Bob | on familiar, that is |
| 15:52.52 | Tygger_Bob | never mind..found what was looking for... |
| 15:53.20 | Tygger_Bob | florian_kc, I'm going to see if I can get the Metasploit framework console working on Familiar... |
| 15:53.32 | Tygger_Bob | it seems to be all perl based, so it shouldn't be too difficult. |
| 15:53.43 | Tygger_Bob | in theory |
| 15:53.55 | florian_kc | Tygger_Bob: indeed, imho perl should be easy... in theory. |
| 15:53.59 | florian_kc | heh |
| 15:55.02 | Tygger_Bob | so far, it's just a case of installing the right modules... |
| 15:55.35 | Tygger_Bob | Canvas would be even cooler, but there doesn't seem to be support for python-glade right now.. |
| 15:55.43 | Tygger_Bob | and the screen would be all wonky too |
| 16:03.35 | mimecar | perl and 'easy' on the same sentence ? |
| 16:03.49 | Tygger_Bob | lol |
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| 16:10.21 | florian_kc | koen|770: gpe-calendar updated... |
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| 16:15.58 | Tygger_Bob | hrm. I need is a package called perl-module-ALL |
| 16:16.10 | Tygger_Bob | and a big SD card to link it to |
| 16:19.21 | mimecar | Tygger_Bob: what's the size ? |
| 16:20.10 | Tygger_Bob | not sure.. just getting tired of installing each missing module 1 by 1, with the slow ipkg install because of the feed list |
| 16:20.52 | mimecar | ipkg installation is very slow, isn't it ? |
| 16:21.01 | Tygger_Bob | it's brutal right now... |
| 16:21.21 | Tygger_Bob | install a module, run metasploit console, fail.. repeat as necessary... |
| 16:22.13 | Tygger_Bob | 8^0 |
| 16:23.06 | koen|770 | perl 'only' has 700 packages |
| 16:23.22 | Tygger_Bob | hehehe |
| 16:23.46 | Tygger_Bob | hrm.. there's an idea.. |
| 16:24.12 | Tygger_Bob | a perl coders version of familiar that doesn't have all the calendar, etc, but has all the perl modules installed by default... |
| 16:24.35 | mimecar | and you can edit all data with perl scripts |
| 16:25.41 | Tygger_Bob | sometimes I can't tell if people are making fun of me.. |
| 16:25.42 | Tygger_Bob | :) |
| 16:26.01 | koen|770 | Tygger_Bob: are you preparing for an iglo project yet? |
| 16:26.47 | Tygger_Bob | huh? |
| 16:26.58 | Tygger_Bob | Oh.. do you mean do we have snow here yet? |
| 16:27.06 | koen|770 | yep |
| 16:27.20 | Tygger_Bob | just had our first few flakes this morning... |
| 16:27.29 | Tygger_Bob | as a matter of fact.. |
| 16:27.49 | Tygger_Bob | I walked over to pick up my son from kindergarten and saw them falling.. |
| 16:28.23 | florian_kc | Hrm... that reminds me that i should get snow tires _before_ this happens here. |
| 16:29.22 | florian_kc | Tygger_Bob: that's exactly the same situation like here ;-) |
| 16:29.41 | florian_kc | apart from links ;-) |
| 16:29.44 | Tygger_Bob | hehehe |
| 16:30.14 | Tygger_Bob | just started recently.. |
| 16:30.17 | Tygger_Bob | addicted now |
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| 16:30.35 | florian_kc | molivier: hi |
| 16:32.12 | Tygger_Bob | This will be fun to have msfconsole.. to see the c:\windows\system32 prompt in my iPAQ terminal window :) |
| 16:39.46 | Tygger_Bob | and another perl module gets installed... |
| 16:54.44 | koen | florian_kc: that latest changes look very good |
| 16:55.05 | koen | I just don't like the fact that maemo removes the borders from buttons... |
| 16:55.43 | florian_kc | koen: The missing borders of GtkTextViews are nasty. |
| 16:59.58 | koen | florian_kc: can you enable button icons on the hildon-popup? |
| 17:00.08 | koen | I think that'll make them look more like buttons |
| 17:00.59 | florian_kc | koen: In theory yes, but i'm not sure if that complies with the ui guidelines ;-) |
| 17:02.01 | koen | :) |
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| 17:18.48 | Tygger_Bob | hehehe.. still installing perl modules.................. |
| 17:18.50 | Tygger_Bob | :) |
| 17:20.24 | _law_ | matchbox-applet-cards now works with gpe-su :-) |
| 17:20.26 | florian_kc | oh dear... |
| 17:20.40 | florian_kc | _law_: cool, was it a missing path? |
| 17:20.54 | _law_ | florian_kc: yes |
| 17:22.41 | _law_ | is there an way to run it always with gpe-su? or should i create an shellscript around? |
| 17:24.21 | florian_kc | i think that would be the best idea... |
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| 17:38.31 | jsmanrique | hi |
| 17:40.15 | koen|770 | hey jsmanrique |
| 17:42.15 | florian_kc | hi jsmanrique |
| 17:43.45 | lardman|work | hey guys, I understand that I can build a gpe-image for the 770, how well does this work? wifi, etc.? |
| 17:46.33 | florian_kc | lardman|work: you can... there is a description mentioned on the mailinglist some time ago. |
| 17:46.54 | lardman|work | gpe or maemo ml? |
| 17:48.04 | florian_kc | lardman|work: wifi works but needs an additional "ifconfig wlan0 up" before configuration. bluetooth and battery status are lacking, backlight control conflicts with the power management tool. |
| 17:48.10 | florian_kc | lardman|work: maemo... |
| 17:48.40 | lardman|work | florian_kc: thanks |
| 17:49.05 | florian_kc | lardman|work: http://www.kernelconcepts.de/~fuchs/oe/maemo-oe.txt |
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| 17:55.01 | philippe | hi peole |
| 17:55.14 | philippe | s/peole/people |
| 17:56.30 | philippe | florian_kc, that maemo-oe thing was just what I was going to ask you. Great! |
| 17:56.32 | florian_kc | philippe: hi |
| 17:57.32 | philippe | florian_kc, I talked to Devesh. Seems that most of the HW is controlled by dsme which will not be open sourced :-( |
| 17:57.35 | florian_kc | philippe: The maemo images are still useless, but Ferenc told me it might be a good idea to wait for the final 1.1 release. |
| 17:58.26 | philippe | florian_kc, ok. |
| 17:58.27 | florian_kc | philippe: right... i had something like this in mind, what we would need is some information how to talk to it - not the source. |
| 17:58.41 | koen | hey philippe |
| 18:00.01 | lardman|work | dsme? |
| 18:00.05 | philippe | evening koen |
| 18:00.45 | philippe | florian_kc, It appears some dbus messaging is going on so that might be a solution. I'll see what I can get out of Devesh as freely available info |
| 18:01.19 | philippe | lardman|work, dsme is some HW control component on the 770. We were discussing how to get GPE HW control to work |
| 18:01.31 | Tygger_Bob | ok.. almost working.. |
| 18:01.32 | lardman|work | philippe: ah, okay, cool |
| 18:01.48 | Tygger_Bob | down to the short strokes on the module installs. |
| 18:01.55 | Tygger_Bob | :) |
| 18:03.56 | koen | Tygger_Bob: you could copy all .ipk to sd, rm /var/lib/ipkg/* and install the ipkgs by hand |
| 18:04.06 | florian_kc | philippe: That would be a save way to go... |
| 18:04.12 | koen | that should be much faster |
| 18:04.28 | Tygger_Bob | hrm.. you're right.. |
| 18:04.35 | Tygger_Bob | that would be faster, wouldn't it :) |
| 18:04.37 | Tygger_Bob | heheh |
| 18:04.41 | koen | philippe: 'Brugse Tripel' is slightly too nice |
| 18:05.17 | philippe | koen, how do you mean slightly too nice? Pushing Duvel from the absolute favourite position? |
| 18:05.33 | koen | nah |
| 18:05.59 | koen | It is a bit more treacherous as duvel |
| 18:06.17 | lardman|work | s/as/than |
| 18:06.21 | lardman|work | ;) |
| 18:06.40 | lardman|work | (don't worry I can't speak a word of Dutch) |
| 18:07.30 | Tygger_Bob | about 8 of those little ones after two big Chamay Rouges |
| 18:07.48 | philippe | Tygger_Bob, most foreigners have :-) It is surprisingly strong compared to what other countries call beer |
| 18:08.03 | philippe | Tygger_Bob, you probabely mean Chimay btw. |
| 18:08.13 | Tygger_Bob | Yes I do ;) |
| 18:08.16 | Tygger_Bob | thanks.. |
| 18:08.32 | Tygger_Bob | You need to try a Fin du Monde here in Canada... |
| 18:08.34 | Tygger_Bob | from Quebec... |
| 18:08.48 | Tygger_Bob | similar level of treachery :) |
| 18:08.49 | philippe | Tygger_Bob, No problem. Anyway I have to approve your good choice... |
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| 18:12.18 | Tygger_Bob | and I like strong beer |
| 18:12.23 | florian_kc | hi Skyhusker |
| 18:12.54 | Tygger_Bob | we had gone out with some clients in Zurich.. they didn't come to the office until 2:30pm :) |
| 18:13.09 | Tygger_Bob | we dragged ourselves in there at 10, but were not very productive |
| 18:13.16 | Skyhusker | hi |
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| 18:13.26 | Skyhusker | hey florian_kc |
| 18:15.15 | philippe | Tygger_Bob, *strong* beer... Beware of the meaning. I moved from Belgium to Finland and now if the refer to strong beer here they mean 6%. Which is about 3-4% less than what I was used to call strong beer. |
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| 18:19.07 | koen | hey Skyhusker |
| 18:19.19 | Skyhusker | hey koen |
| 18:19.59 | florian_kc | hi shiyee |
| 18:20.12 | shiyee | hi florian_kc |
| 18:21.51 | Tygger_Bob | philippe, yep.. if it's less than 9-10, it's not strong.. it's just, well, what it's supposed to be :) |
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| 18:23.07 | grendal_prime | YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS |
| 18:23.31 | grendal_prime | this is the place...ok anyone know where i can get a vncclient for my zaurus 5500 running openzaurus and GPE ? |
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| 18:28.09 | philippe | hi grendal_prime |
| 18:28.26 | philippe | did you try ipkg search vnc? |
| 18:28.42 | grendal_prime | ya...i wound up with alot of....server packages |
| 18:28.49 | grendal_prime | i need a client |
| 18:28.57 | grendal_prime | im sure i dont have sources correct |
| 18:29.10 | grendal_prime | i mean ive never adjusted them..they are the default install sources |
| 18:29.22 | grendal_prime | from the openzaurs images |
| 18:29.51 | philippe | hmm, looking through oe stuff I only find servers too... |
| 18:30.12 | grendal_prime | hey i got a question about package placement... |
| 18:30.19 | grendal_prime | i have a huge...well large sd |
| 18:30.31 | grendal_prime | i would love to be able to move as much as possible to it.. |
| 18:31.16 | grendal_prime | i have yet to run the upgrad because..well when i do it fills up the internal memory of my zaurus. is there a way i could do an upgrand and move the location of the files all at the same time? |
| 18:31.59 | philippe | grendal_prime, http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/PackagesOnSDCard?action=highlight&value=ipkg+install+ |
| 18:32.18 | grendal_prime | cool thanks |
| 18:32.35 | philippe | well I never tried but it should be something along those lines |
| 18:33.34 | grendal_prime | ya looks good..ive done it when i was using opie..but that thing is just too flacky...and i just need a few things to work right..one of wich is the vnc client |
| 18:33.42 | grendal_prime | the GPE seems to be much more stable.. |
| 18:33.51 | grendal_prime | and more like the debian systems im familiar with |
| 18:33.52 | florian_kc | I hope so :-) |
| 18:37.59 | florian_kc | bbl |
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| 18:48.24 | Tygger_Bob | YES!!!!! |
| 18:49.01 | bedboi | what's up? |
| 18:49.18 | Tygger_Bob | hold on.. I'll post some scaps... |
| 18:49.23 | Tygger_Bob | this is too cool for words. :) |
| 18:49.57 | Tygger_Bob | never done scaps. how does it work? |
| 18:50.38 | philippe | Tygger_Bob, if you are connected to the net it will send it to handhelds.org/scap |
| 18:51.34 | Tygger_Bob | how long do they take to show? |
| 18:52.24 | lardman|work | night all |
| 18:56.56 | grendal_prime | shit i just aced my ipkg.conf on accident |
| 18:57.05 | Tygger_Bob | hehehe... |
| 18:57.08 | Tygger_Bob | bedboi. |
| 18:57.11 | Tygger_Bob | check out my scap.. |
| 18:57.21 | grendal_prime | can somone post that info here its like 4 lines for the 5500 |
| 18:57.22 | Tygger_Bob | IP 70.28.98.193 |
| 18:57.22 | Tygger_Bob | Date Thu Nov 10 14:02:30 2005 |
| 18:57.22 | Tygger_Bob | User root |
| 18:57.22 | Tygger_Bob | Hardware H5400 |
| 18:57.29 | Tygger_Bob | phillipe as well, if you're interested... |
| 18:58.01 | koen | Tygger_Bob: ipkg install http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/deploy/ipk/gpe-screenshot_0.4-r0_armv5te.ipk |
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| 18:58.28 | Tygger_Bob | koen, is that newer than what's in the image? |
| 18:58.32 | koen | then click on the 'take screenshot' entry in the start-menu |
| 18:58.38 | Tygger_Bob | it's already there.. |
| 18:58.41 | Tygger_Bob | thanks.. got it.. |
| 18:59.15 | koen | that's reenoo's gui for scap |
| 18:59.54 | Tygger_Bob | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.9197.png |
| 19:00.40 | grendal_prime | whats the easyest way to move my temp dir to a sd card? |
| 19:01.04 | bedboi | wgt is this? |
| 19:01.07 | bedboi | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.13946.png |
| 19:01.10 | bedboi | s/wgt/wtf |
| 19:02.31 | koen | mb-applet-cards |
| 19:02.45 | koen | http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/deploy/ipk/matchbox-applet-cards_1.0.2-r0_armv5te.ipk |
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| 19:04.12 | koen | Tygger_Bob: if you use gpe-screenshot it gets uploaded with the right rotation |
| 19:04.36 | Tygger_Bob | Ahhhh |
| 19:04.40 | Tygger_Bob | ok.. they're different.. |
| 19:04.40 | Tygger_Bob | ok |
| 19:04.43 | moray | a/wi1 |
| 19:05.13 | Tygger_Bob | kind of cool, though, eh? |
| 19:05.20 | koen | yes :) |
| 19:05.44 | Tygger_Bob | what I should have done was make a list of the perl modules I had to instal to get it to work. |
| 19:05.44 | kammicazze | koen, how did you manage to get gpe-sync running with the ssh password? |
| 19:06.05 | koen | keybased auth |
| 19:06.26 | kammicazze | ok |
| 19:07.48 | Tygger_Bob | I'm going to send the screencap to the guys at metasploit.org. maybe give GPE a little visibility there |
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| 19:16.51 | grendal_prime | anyone know how to use fish with dropbear ? |
| 19:17.37 | grendal_prime | every time i open something from fish on the kde systems and resave it....like the ipkg.conf. it does not upload the file right..it literall balks and i get a 0 content file |
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| 19:27.24 | Tygger_Bob | koen, so.. with that new scap package, there are now two options.. one for uploading a scap and one for just taking one locally? |
| 19:28.10 | koen | yes |
| 19:29.04 | Tygger_Bob | hrm.. still sideways.. do I need to do anything special? |
| 19:30.04 | Tygger_Bob | never mind. I was looking at the wrong one. |
| 19:30.47 | koen | it should say 'hardware: PNG' with the new one |
| 19:31.01 | Tygger_Bob | yep.. |
| 19:31.07 | Tygger_Bob | found it... |
| 19:31.15 | Tygger_Bob | thanks for that.. looks better |
| 19:31.29 | Tygger_Bob | PocketSploit! |
| 19:33.22 | rob_w | Tygger_Bob, hell gods , what are you doing ?? ;-) |
| 19:34.01 | Tygger_Bob | rob_w, I got the MetaSploit framework to work on familiar... |
| 19:34.14 | Tygger_Bob | exploited a VM I have running here with windows 2000 on it.. |
| 19:34.37 | Tygger_Bob | using the new pnp vunerability that as announces the other week |
| 19:34.42 | Tygger_Bob | sweet! |
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| 19:35.43 | florian | re |
| 19:35.46 | koen | hey florian & mreimer |
| 19:35.47 | Tygger_Bob | isn't one yet |
| 19:35.50 | mreimer | hey koen |
| 19:35.52 | Tygger_Bob | Hey Florian.. check this out: |
| 19:36.11 | Tygger_Bob | http://handhelds.org/scap/land.9197.png |
| 19:37.25 | grendal_prime | hehehe my gaim program is to big for my screen |
| 19:37.35 | grendal_prime | is there a config file i can add accounts to manually |
| 19:37.46 | koen | ~/.gaim/* |
| 19:37.48 | grendal_prime | or is there a smaller version of gaim |
| 19:37.55 | koen | yes, gaim 2.0 |
| 19:37.58 | Tygger_Bob | argg.. so, does it flip a coin to see if it's landscape or portrait? |
| 19:38.01 | rob_w | Tygger_Bob, wanna share ? ive a habit of collecting software pieces in time |
| 19:38.33 | koen | Tygger_Bob: the 'scap' ('upload screenshot') does, gpe-screenshot ('take screenshot') doesn't |
| 19:38.51 | Tygger_Bob | Ahh.. so I'm still using the old one.. |
| 19:39.00 | Tygger_Bob | now I get it. |
| 19:39.06 | Tygger_Bob | rob_w, : just go to www.metasploit.org |
| 19:39.10 | Tygger_Bob | download the package. |
| 19:39.14 | Tygger_Bob | untar it somewhere.. |
| 19:39.33 | Tygger_Bob | run msfconsole and start installing perl packages till it works :) |
| 19:39.36 | Tygger_Bob | nothing to it |
| 19:39.50 | koen | Tygger_Bob: if you have a list of needed perl modules for metasploit, I could add it to OE |
| 19:40.30 | Tygger_Bob | I didn't keep track.. but when I do my next reflash, I'll write them down as I install them so we have a list. |
| 19:40.34 | koen | ipkg list_installed | grep perl (if you're lazy( |
| 19:40.47 | Tygger_Bob | which I am |
| 19:40.49 | Tygger_Bob | just a sec |
| 19:41.45 | rob_w | or use ldd |
| 19:42.12 | koen | Tygger_Bob: and mail the result to koen@handhelds.org |
| 19:45.27 | florian | Tygger_Bob: sounds like fun :-) |
| 19:46.13 | Tygger_Bob | koen, which package to I remove to get rid of the old scap thing the app menu? |
| 19:46.32 | koen | rm /usr/share/applications/scap.desktop iirc |
| 19:48.31 | grendal_prime | hmm i cant find gaim 2 |
| 19:48.58 | *** join/#gpe lamikr (n=chatzill@aragorn.kortex.jyu.fi) |
| 19:49.07 | lamikr | Hi philippe |
| 19:49.57 | *** join/#gpe Kompo (n=kimmo@sk2-38.tky.hut.fi) |
| 19:50.14 | *** join/#gpe JAV (n=JAV@80.34.40.105) |
| 19:51.19 | philippe | hello lamikr |
| 19:51.49 | lamikr | Still coming tomorrow to see waltari? |
| 19:52.11 | philippe | lamikr, i plan too yes :-) |
| 19:53.15 | lamikr | Same here. I checked that the place will open at 10 a clock. Would you like to come earlier to my friends home? |
| 19:54.00 | Tygger_Bob | koen, perl listing on its way. |
| 19:55.30 | koen|770 | thanks |
| 19:55.46 | lamikr | philippe: I will send my phone number in the email. |
| 19:56.04 | philippe | lamikr, good idea |
| 19:59.33 | philippe | lamikr, I just wonder if it is appropriate to get to your friends place. (I do not know him yet) |
| 20:02.20 | lamikr | philippe: Well, I have not asked him but propaply there would not be any problems. Another possibility would be to meet in there pub before the gig start... I do not believe the band will start playing until midnight but I want to be there at 10 to make sure I get the ticket. |
| 20:03.08 | philippe | lamikr, that might be a better idea. Are you coming by train tomorrow? |
| 20:03.46 | lamikr | No, by car... But It may be that I am at tampere only at 8 or 9 pm... |
| 20:05.55 | philippe | no problem, I usually stop working round 8pm. |
| 20:07.11 | grendal_prime | hmm sure wish i could get nano working |
| 20:09.56 | philippe | grendal_prime, that should not be to hard.. |
| 20:10.04 | lamikr | philippe: Ok, mail is now sent. |
| 20:10.51 | grendal_prime | ya thats what i thought as well but...umm |
| 20:10.52 | grendal_prime | nano: error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.5: cannot open sharedobject file: No such file or directory |
| 20:11.08 | grendal_prime | cant find that lib |
| 20:11.32 | philippe | grendal_prime, seems the dependancies are wrong... that should be in libncurses |
| 20:12.12 | philippe | or the ncurses package |
| 20:18.52 | grendal_prime | ok something else that is bothering me |
| 20:18.54 | grendal_prime | ipkg-link add gpe-filemanager |
| 20:19.02 | grendal_prime | does this add a link to the desktop somewhere? |
| 20:19.20 | grendal_prime | or is it linking the file to the /user dir? |
| 20:20.15 | *** join/#gpe mimecar (n=chatzill@50.Red-81-32-175.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 20:21.03 | mimecar | re |
| 20:21.07 | philippe | grendal_prime, I guess the second option |
| 20:21.13 | grendal_prime | k |
| 20:21.55 | grendal_prime | well ither way...it didnt work |
| 20:21.57 | grendal_prime | bummer |
| 20:22.56 | grendal_prime | cant find libgnomeevfs |
| 20:23.30 | grendal_prime | there must be a repository im missing in my ipkg source lists |
| 20:25.58 | grendal_prime | ok i figured it out...i had not ipkg-link add the ncurses packge |
| 20:26.07 | grendal_prime | this brings to light a few problems |
| 20:26.32 | grendal_prime | is there anyway to have ipkg-link run every time i install a pkg? |
| 20:26.43 | grendal_prime | or do i need to just write a script to do so? |
| 20:28.22 | grendal_prime | grrrr |
| 20:28.28 | grendal_prime | total lock up |
| 20:28.46 | grendal_prime | just the front end tough |
| 20:29.08 | grendal_prime | wich begs me to ask..is there some key combo i can press to kill the desktop or at least go to a tty? |
| 20:32.09 | philippe | grendal_prime, not that I know of |
| 20:32.52 | koen|770 | ctrl-alt-bs |
| 20:33.56 | grendal_prime | for real? |
| 20:34.21 | koen|770 | yes |
| 20:35.54 | grendal_prime | na that just opens my calendar |
| 20:36.07 | grendal_prime | there is no alt on the physical keyboard i can see |
| 20:39.00 | mimecar | grendal_prime: do you have a sl-5500 ? |
| 20:40.44 | grendal_prime | yep |
| 20:42.40 | mimecar | ALT is the right shift |
| 20:42.57 | grendal_prime | by the way nano does work now..i just ipkg-link add the ncurses and it worked |
| 20:43.04 | mimecar | keyboard shorcuts doesn't work very good |
| 20:43.15 | mimecar | I moved system to sd |
| 20:43.18 | grendal_prime | im wondering how many other packages i need to do that with though |
| 20:43.28 | grendal_prime | mimecar, how do you do that |
| 20:43.29 | mimecar | and I haven't problems with ipkg-link |
| 20:43.30 | grendal_prime | i need to do that |
| 20:43.48 | grendal_prime | i have 512 megs there and only 64 internal |
| 20:43.53 | koen|770 | ipkg-link mount <path> adds all packages in that location |
| 20:43.58 | mimecar | http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/howto/root-on-sd/ |
| 20:44.06 | mimecar | you have a guide there |
| 20:44.15 | grendal_prime | bitchen |
| 20:44.18 | grendal_prime | thanks man |
| 20:44.23 | mimecar | i run gpe on my sl-5500 with 512 MB os space |
| 20:44.48 | mimecar | if you have some question.... |
| 20:44.50 | grendal_prime | hmm thought i lookd at everywhere there |
| 20:44.55 | grendal_prime | jesus do it |
| 20:45.02 | grendal_prime | hold on let me look at that page first |
| 20:45.09 | mimecar | i'll be here this night (after lunch of course) |
| 20:45.12 | grendal_prime | but first of all ...filemanager |
| 20:45.20 | mimecar | it's a easy process |
| 20:45.32 | mimecar | if you have a sd, backup your data |
| 20:45.49 | grendal_prime | well i was just gggoing to say..i have nothing really to back up at this point |
| 20:45.58 | mimecar | on zaurus and SD (you'll lost all data on process) |
| 20:46.09 | grendal_prime | thats fine |
| 20:46.16 | grendal_prime | nothing to keep really |
| 20:46.17 | grendal_prime | thanks |
| 20:46.21 | mimecar | ok |
| 20:46.25 | mimecar | on SD -> dd of=opie.img if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=150000 |
| 20:46.37 | mimecar | count is the size of your memory card |
| 20:46.49 | grendal_prime | opie.img? |
| 20:46.53 | mimecar | what's your size? |
| 20:47.02 | mimecar | that's the name, you must use gpe.img |
| 20:47.18 | mimecar | you can run 2 environments on the same zaurus without flashing |
| 20:47.32 | grendal_prime | ya but i dont want to |
| 20:47.35 | grendal_prime | i just want one |
| 20:47.41 | grendal_prime | gpe is fine |
| 20:47.46 | mimecar | then you can create one file for gpe |
| 20:48.00 | mimecar | on console, 'df -h', said me memory card size |
| 20:48.09 | grendal_prime | i have a 512 meg sd |
| 20:48.32 | grendal_prime | /dev/mmcda 468.6M 23.7M 420.7M 5% /media/card |
| 20:48.36 | grendal_prime | well close anyway |
| 20:48.47 | mimecar | and with 'df' |
| 20:48.54 | mimecar | you must know byte numbers |
| 20:49.17 | grendal_prime | /dev/mtdblock4 14464 14464 0 100% / |
| 20:49.33 | mimecar | that's pda internal memory |
| 20:49.41 | grendal_prime | hmm |
| 20:49.47 | mimecar | i'm going to lunch |
| 20:49.47 | grendal_prime | what else we looking for? |
| 20:49.50 | grendal_prime | k |
| 20:49.58 | mimecar | youl'll have somethin as |
| 20:50.07 | mimecar | 343000 bytes free |
| 20:50.18 | mimecar | the same as 14464 for /dev/mmcda |
| 20:50.18 | grendal_prime | ill read the file you sent me |
| 20:50.21 | grendal_prime | well the link that is |
| 20:50.29 | mimecar | I must go out |
| 20:50.39 | mimecar | i'll return on 30 minutes |
| 21:00.15 | *** join/#gpe shiyee (n=Shiyee@0x555146e5.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 21:02.53 | grendal_prime | hmm need to clear the bastard off first... |
| 21:03.16 | grendal_prime | format...cant remember how to whip out an entire sd |
| 21:03.21 | grendal_prime | bomb sd |
| 21:03.22 | grendal_prime | hehe |
| 21:06.23 | philippe | mke2fs ? |
| 21:07.56 | grendal_prime | well i tried mkfs.ext2 |
| 21:08.03 | grendal_prime | which it did but when i run |
| 21:08.04 | grendal_prime | dd of=opie.img if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=479844 |
| 21:08.17 | grendal_prime | i still get an error about it being full |
| 21:10.26 | philippe | grendal_prime, no wonder... 1024bytes times 479844 |
| 21:12.15 | philippe | hmmm, well that should fit on a 512Mb giving it a second time. |
| 21:12.32 | philippe | s/time/thought |
| 21:13.12 | *** join/#gpe zecke__ (n=ich@88.134.0.77) |
| 21:13.32 | grendal_prime | well i ran the mke2fs |
| 21:13.41 | grendal_prime | and this still...gives the same results |
| 21:13.42 | grendal_prime | dd of=opie.img if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=479844 |
| 21:13.54 | grendal_prime | dd: gpe.img: No space left on device |
| 21:14.22 | grendal_prime | now the 479844 is the exact size reported by df |
| 21:14.34 | grendal_prime | should i chop it down a couple of kb just to make sure? |
| 21:15.01 | philippe | sure |
| 21:15.04 | grendal_prime | dd of=opie.img if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=479800 |
| 21:15.08 | grendal_prime | naa same problem |
| 21:15.10 | grendal_prime | this is werid |
| 21:15.50 | philippe | however seems you are just sending a bunch of zeroes in a file |
| 21:17.09 | mimecar | grendal_prime: I've return |
| 21:17.14 | grendal_prime | ok mimecar lost already |
| 21:17.15 | kammicazze | gpe-sync is 'sort-of' syncing :) |
| 21:17.19 | mimecar | what's the size ? |
| 21:17.36 | grendal_prime | 479844 |
| 21:17.39 | mimecar | ok |
| 21:17.51 | grendal_prime | thing is i cant seem to clean off the sd card to write to it |
| 21:17.55 | mimecar | create one with 479000 |
| 21:18.10 | mimecar | you can't create the full size |
| 21:18.14 | mimecar | it won't work |
| 21:18.17 | grendal_prime | k |
| 21:18.25 | koen | kammicazze: martin said he would add the missing feature for conflict resolving this weekend |
| 21:18.42 | kammicazze | koen: nice |
| 21:19.01 | grendal_prime | dd: gpe.img: No space left on device |
| 21:19.06 | philippe | grendal_prime, and where are you creating opie.img or gpe.img?? |
| 21:19.13 | grendal_prime | gpe |
| 21:19.35 | mimecar | grendal_prime: paste the full output of 'df' command |
| 21:19.39 | grendal_prime | /mnt/card/ |
| 21:19.46 | mimecar | hi philippe |
| 21:20.09 | grendal_prime | shit...i didnt mount the damn thing |
| 21:20.14 | philippe | grendal_prime, is your command correct? dd if= of= if means input file, of is output file |
| 21:20.21 | kammicazze | koen: there are some trouble with the ne multisync gui too, not detecting the gpe-sync pluging for configuration. But i can't compile it with --enable-tracing so it's difficult to find the problem. Do you know of a tau-pthread lib? |
| 21:20.30 | kammicazze | s/ne/new/ |
| 21:21.05 | koen | the gui sucks anyway |
| 21:21.18 | kammicazze | :) |
| 21:21.22 | mimecar | philippe: he only must change opie for gpe |
| 21:21.27 | mimecar | the command is correct |
| 21:21.30 | koen | kde has a nice gui for opensync, gnome lacks one |
| 21:21.35 | grendal_prime | /dev/mtdblock4 14464 14464 0 100% / |
| 21:21.35 | grendal_prime | tmpfs 15080 68 15012 0% /var |
| 21:21.35 | grendal_prime | /dev/mmcda 479844 13 455057 0% /media/card |
| 21:21.41 | mimecar | ok |
| 21:21.43 | mimecar | first |
| 21:21.48 | koen | oops |
| 21:21.54 | koen | jffs2 doesn't like that |
| 21:21.55 | mimecar | remove the file you've created |
| 21:22.18 | grendal_prime | havent created anything |
| 21:22.30 | grendal_prime | used =0% |
| 21:22.47 | mimecar | 455057 is your size |
| 21:22.59 | mimecar | then, 450000 |
| 21:23.05 | grendal_prime | oky doky |
| 21:23.06 | mimecar | test with that size |
| 21:23.17 | grendal_prime | so entire line will look like this |
| 21:23.42 | koen | of=/media/card/gpe.img |
| 21:23.55 | mimecar | dd of=opie.img if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=450000 |
| 21:24.04 | grendal_prime | dd of=gpe.img if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=450000 |
| 21:24.05 | mimecar | dd of=gpe+.img if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=450000 |
| 21:24.10 | mimecar | dd of=gpe.img if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=450000 |
| 21:24.13 | mimecar | yes |
| 21:24.27 | grendal_prime | ok there is no ref to where its is to put this? |
| 21:24.40 | grendal_prime | it just knows its going to the /media/card ? |
| 21:24.42 | mimecar | you should write the command |
| 21:24.49 | mimecar | on your root card |
| 21:25.02 | mimecar | on /mnt/folder |
| 21:25.13 | mimecar | if you don't do it |
| 21:25.22 | mimecar | you will fit zaurus internal memory |
| 21:25.47 | grendal_prime | so in this case it would read dd of=gpe.img if=/media/card bs=1024 count=450000 |
| 21:26.01 | mimecar | no |
| 21:26.01 | koen | no |
| 21:26.04 | grendal_prime | ? |
| 21:26.06 | grendal_prime | ok |
| 21:26.06 | mimecar | mv /media/card |
| 21:26.11 | mimecar | dd of=gpe.img if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=450000 |
| 21:26.15 | grendal_prime | ok |
| 21:26.17 | grendal_prime | ill do that |
| 21:26.41 | mimecar | , /dev/zero is a special device |
| 21:26.57 | grendal_prime | says no space left on device |
| 21:27.49 | grendal_prime | im doing this from remote |
| 21:28.18 | grendal_prime | let me hardcycle that thing..i just realized that ..it has...ummmm well...the drivers for the nic on it..so its obvioulsy not whiped out |
| 21:28.51 | mimecar | do you create file on /media/card ? |
| 21:29.03 | mimecar | paste the mount out for your sd |
| 21:29.04 | grendal_prime | no |
| 21:29.15 | grendal_prime | holdon |
| 21:30.42 | mimecar | grendal_prime: do you move to your sd before write the command ? |
| 21:34.37 | grendal_prime | no |
| 21:34.39 | grendal_prime | hold on |
| 21:35.04 | grendal_prime | got it |
| 21:35.10 | mimecar | good |
| 21:35.15 | grendal_prime | its writing it |
| 21:35.51 | grendal_prime | so basically when im done with this...ill have a 512 meg image file to install the entire os into correct? |
| 21:36.05 | mimecar | yes |
| 21:36.09 | grendal_prime | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:36.20 | mimecar | better |
| 21:36.24 | grendal_prime | so if i wanted to pick up another...one of these cards..i could put opie on it? |
| 21:36.28 | grendal_prime | and do the same |
| 21:36.29 | mimecar | you must not fill all the card |
| 21:36.44 | mimecar | yes, but you'll need a smaller image file |
| 21:36.54 | mimecar | for example 300 for gpe and 200 for opie |
| 21:37.22 | grendal_prime | even if im using two different cards entirely? |
| 21:37.42 | mimecar | no |
| 21:37.52 | mimecar | if you use two card, you can have two system |
| 21:38.03 | mimecar | you have ALL the system on the image file |
| 21:38.20 | grendal_prime | ya |
| 21:38.40 | grendal_prime | so i pop out the one and in the other...with a reboot of course |
| 21:38.48 | mimecar | where're you from grendal_prime |
| 21:38.51 | mimecar | yes |
| 21:39.07 | mimecar | you cand do it the same with 2 image files |
| 21:39.27 | mimecar | after install some scripts, you'll be asked on boot |
| 21:39.53 | grendal_prime | im from california |
| 21:39.56 | grendal_prime | dude |
| 21:39.57 | grendal_prime | hehehe |
| 21:40.00 | mimecar | xDDD |
| 21:40.46 | mimecar | have you download sctips for install on sd ? |
| 21:40.58 | grendal_prime | as far as two image files though i mean there is a possibility of running out of space..because the image size is sort of written in stone correct |
| 21:41.07 | grendal_prime | yes i have those on my laptop |
| 21:41.16 | grendal_prime | i can move them to a cf card |
| 21:41.36 | mimecar | you'll have 480 MB for system |
| 21:41.40 | grendal_prime | same cf card that has the images for install |
| 21:42.08 | grendal_prime | that should be good |
| 21:42.21 | grendal_prime | i think right now im dealing with a 65 meg limit |
| 21:42.29 | grendal_prime | 64 or something like that |
| 21:42.38 | mimecar | I use cf for flashing |
| 21:42.44 | grendal_prime | ya me to |
| 21:42.58 | grendal_prime | i have one cf that has...256 megs ... |
| 21:43.13 | grendal_prime | it has gpe image and kernel image on it |
| 21:43.20 | grendal_prime | as well as the firmware for my nick |
| 21:43.24 | mimecar | xDDD |
| 21:43.36 | mimecar | i separate system (SD) and flashing (CF |
| 21:43.51 | mimecar | SD use ext2 format and CF use fat32 |
| 21:43.52 | grendal_prime | sounds like we are on the same page |
| 21:44.02 | mimecar | ?? |
| 21:44.07 | grendal_prime | i have 512 meg sd and 256 meg cf card |
| 21:44.16 | mimecar | xDD |
| 21:44.21 | mimecar | 512 SD and 64 CF |
| 21:44.56 | grendal_prime | cf card has the images and the scripts and the firmware for my nic on it. so howlong doe this image write take? |
| 21:45.15 | mimecar | some minutes |
| 21:45.34 | mimecar | you can backup your system only copying image file |
| 21:45.43 | grendal_prime | and that is very cool |
| 21:45.49 | mimecar | it's very useful when you try new versions of openzaurus |
| 21:45.57 | mimecar | because you can restore system on 10 minutes |
| 21:46.11 | grendal_prime | similiar to like how i do with qith qemu on the debian systems |
| 21:46.54 | grendal_prime | when i reasearch windows viruses and problems in general.. i have a win2k image file and i can bomb it with virus...see how it behaves from the outside on the linux machine |
| 21:47.23 | grendal_prime | its running with emulated hardware via qemu x86 emulation |
| 21:47.27 | mimecar | i use vmware |
| 21:48.06 | grendal_prime | same thing really...although vmware is expensive |
| 21:48.16 | grendal_prime | but you get support whic is cool |
| 21:48.48 | mimecar | is not so expensive :p |
| 21:49.08 | mimecar | but i can't run some programs on it |
| 21:53.10 | mimecar | grendal_prime: do it work ? |
| 21:54.08 | grendal_prime | yep |
| 21:54.14 | grendal_prime | sorry was on the phone with wife |
| 21:54.18 | grendal_prime | kids are sick |
| 21:54.25 | mimecar | don't worry |
| 21:54.38 | mimecar | next step is format new file |
| 21:54.43 | grendal_prime | needed to know wich drugs to give to grumpy daughter with scratchy throath |
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| 21:54.45 | mimecar | is your sd ext2 formated ? |
| 21:54.55 | grendal_prime | yes |
| 21:55.15 | mimecar | ok |
| 21:55.26 | grendal_prime | mkfs.ext2 gpe.img |
| 21:55.30 | grendal_prime | ? |
| 21:55.55 | mimecar | yes |
| 21:56.02 | mimecar | you must be root user |
| 21:56.48 | grendal_prime | ya it is asking me if im sure ..because its not a block special devvice |
| 21:56.52 | grendal_prime | im assuming the anser is yes |
| 21:57.34 | mimecar | yes |
| 21:58.02 | philippe | grendal_prime, you probabely need to pass it -F too |
| 21:58.03 | grendal_prime | done deal |
| 21:58.12 | grendal_prime | ? |
| 21:58.18 | grendal_prime | two late |
| 21:58.26 | grendal_prime | on the -f what does it mean? |
| 21:58.29 | philippe | if it worked it is okay |
| 21:58.37 | grendal_prime | it worked |
| 21:58.38 | mimecar | philippe: it works |
| 21:58.44 | mimecar | later, |
| 21:58.51 | mimecar | mkdir /media/image |
| 21:59.36 | grendal_prime | where? |
| 21:59.55 | mimecar | that's an absolute command |
| 22:00.05 | mimecar | it will work on all the folders |
| 22:00.09 | grendal_prime | right on the root hu |
| 22:00.19 | philippe | Well the last version of mke2fs I used need -F to format a file |
| 22:00.42 | mimecar | losetup /dev/loop0 gpe.img |
| 22:00.57 | mimecar | philippe: -F indicates a file as destiny ? |
| 22:01.23 | grendal_prime | ok wait..do i need to have the os in the state that i want it right now? |
| 22:01.28 | grendal_prime | because..its not |
| 22:01.36 | mimecar | no |
| 22:01.45 | grendal_prime | i was under the assumption i was going to reinstall into this image |
| 22:01.48 | mimecar | you will create a new installation on file |
| 22:01.51 | mimecar | yes |
| 22:01.56 | grendal_prime | ok bitchen |
| 22:02.09 | mimecar | one question |
| 22:02.16 | mimecar | it would be a good idea |
| 22:02.20 | philippe | mimecar, from the man page of mke2fs : -F Force mke2fs to run, even if the specified device is not a block special device, or appears to be mounted. |
| 22:02.29 | mimecar | you use a clean system before you copy all to sd |
| 22:02.39 | mimecar | ok |
| 22:02.52 | grendal_prime | ? |
| 22:02.54 | mimecar | ie, reflash |
| 22:02.57 | grendal_prime | y aya |
| 22:03.19 | grendal_prime | you mean redo the system before i move it? |
| 22:03.31 | mimecar | yes if you want |
| 22:03.41 | grendal_prime | ya..should i do that now ? |
| 22:03.41 | mimecar | next step will copy your actual system |
| 22:03.49 | mimecar | with all posible link errors... |
| 22:03.56 | mimecar | yes |
| 22:04.09 | mimecar | it's easier update a clean system |
| 22:04.19 | mimecar | than a "patched system" |
| 22:04.32 | grendal_prime | i still need to run the... makedir /media/image |
| 22:04.43 | mimecar | later |
| 22:04.46 | grendal_prime | or should i do that after reflashing |
| 22:04.54 | mimecar | if you reflash, uo will lost new folder |
| 22:05.52 | grendal_prime | ok....so at this point..do you want me to enter the makedir command..or reflash the machine ? |
| 22:07.11 | grendal_prime | the install guid looks pretty straigt forward at this point |
| 22:07.33 | mimecar | reflash the machine |
| 22:07.57 | mimecar | you have the done the hard step before |
| 22:08.12 | *** part/#gpe _law_ (n=_law_@213.173.86.202) |
| 22:08.29 | mimecar | s / the / ' ' |
| 22:09.05 | grendal_prime | k |
| 22:10.19 | mimecar | ?? |
| 22:11.55 | *** join/#gpe florian_ (n=fuchs@p5083A72E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:12.01 | mimecar | hey florian |
| 22:13.10 | grendal_prime | you know the more i think about this the cooler it is |
| 22:14.05 | grendal_prime | i was talking to a friend the other day...he stoped using his dell axim because the os had gottne to big to run on his windows based axim...backing up the entire thing was not possible for him without considerable trouble |
| 22:14.39 | grendal_prime | this is like haveing a laptop with a swabable hd |
| 22:14.44 | mimecar | yes |
| 22:15.09 | mimecar | you convert 16 MB of internal memory to 512MB |
| 22:15.10 | grendal_prime | ok am booting with new os |
| 22:15.15 | mimecar | ok |
| 22:15.27 | mimecar | after create new user... open the terminal |
| 22:15.54 | grendal_prime | now first thing i need to explain..i have a strange network card..i have to fire it up with the prism3 scripts |
| 22:16.06 | grendal_prime | do you want me to set all that up before writing to image? |
| 22:16.14 | grendal_prime | its not that complicated |
| 22:16.18 | mimecar | if you install wifi card |
| 22:16.24 | mimecar | image will have wifi car working |
| 22:16.39 | grendal_prime | cool |
| 22:16.45 | grendal_prime | then thats the deal |
| 22:17.10 | grendal_prime | oo wait...will i be able to change that later? |
| 22:17.21 | grendal_prime | cause i may be getting a different wifi card |
| 22:17.43 | mimecar | if wifi card use cf |
| 22:17.48 | mimecar | that would be a problem |
| 22:18.06 | grendal_prime | hmm it does |
| 22:18.09 | mimecar | will you use SD card o CF card |
| 22:18.35 | mimecar | ? |
| 22:18.43 | grendal_prime | oo i see what your saying.. |
| 22:18.46 | mimecar | if you store data on SD, |
| 22:18.54 | mimecar | you won't have problems |
| 22:18.56 | grendal_prime | no the cf will be the wifi the sd will be the os |
| 22:19.00 | grendal_prime | ya cool np then |
| 22:19.05 | mimecar | ok |
| 22:19.08 | mimecar | no problem |
| 22:19.37 | florian_ | koen: wb |
| 22:19.42 | koen | grendal_prime: a sandisk connect+ nic? |
| 22:19.48 | koen | hi florian |
| 22:20.03 | grendal_prime | koen, ya.. |
| 22:20.16 | koen | ipkg install prism3-support :) |
| 22:20.19 | grendal_prime | i dont know if i will ever be able to use the 128 megs of mem on it |
| 22:20.22 | grendal_prime | ya.. |
| 22:20.26 | grendal_prime | it works |
| 22:20.41 | grendal_prime | well on this one i have to install 3 files |
| 22:20.44 | grendal_prime | i think |
| 22:21.03 | mimecar | grendal_prime: next step ? |
| 22:21.24 | grendal_prime | working on it |
| 22:21.25 | grendal_prime | almost there |
| 22:21.41 | grendal_prime | hey time..i can never get this thing to keep the time is that a common problem? |
| 22:21.58 | mimecar | do you lost hour |
| 22:22.00 | mimecar | ? |
| 22:22.06 | grendal_prime | terminal or root shell? |
| 22:22.49 | mimecar | root shell |
| 22:23.22 | grendal_prime | k |
| 22:23.32 | grendal_prime | oh shit |
| 22:23.33 | mimecar | go to root folder of sd |
| 22:23.37 | mimecar | losetup /dev/loop0 gpe.img |
| 22:23.43 | grendal_prime | let me set up the wireless first |
| 22:23.48 | mimecar | ok |
| 22:23.48 | grendal_prime | one sec |
| 22:28.01 | grendal_prime | gonna reboot to make sure it works |
| 22:29.44 | grendal_prime | ok works and im on the net with it |
| 22:29.51 | grendal_prime | now where should i put the scripts |
| 22:30.07 | grendal_prime | should i put them on the ...initernal ram somewhere? |
| 22:30.34 | mimecar | you can put them on sd |
| 22:30.43 | grendal_prime | ok |
| 22:30.45 | grendal_prime | hold on |
| 22:30.47 | mimecar | is not necesary one special folder |
| 22:30.53 | mimecar | unpack file |
| 22:31.07 | mimecar | ./modify_base.sh |
| 22:31.20 | grendal_prime | k ill move them to the sd now |
| 22:31.22 | mimecar | wait |
| 22:31.24 | grendal_prime | k |
| 22:31.33 | mimecar | mkdir /media/image |
| 22:31.42 | mimecar | first, we need prepare system :p |
| 22:32.00 | grendal_prime | k |
| 22:32.11 | mimecar | directory create ? |
| 22:32.16 | grendal_prime | do i need the sd in the machine now? |
| 22:32.32 | grendal_prime | when i run the mkdir command the sd should be in the machine? |
| 22:32.32 | mimecar | yes |
| 22:32.34 | grendal_prime | k |
| 22:32.43 | mimecar | is not necesary |
| 22:32.49 | mimecar | but you must insert card now |
| 22:33.02 | grendal_prime | its in |
| 22:33.10 | mimecar | after create directory |
| 22:33.20 | mimecar | go to /media/card and write |
| 22:33.24 | mimecar | losetup /dev/loop0 gpe.img |
| 22:34.16 | mimecar | ok ? |
| 22:34.22 | grendal_prime | working on it |
| 22:34.34 | mimecar | mount -t ext2 /dev/loop0 /media/image |
| 22:34.58 | mimecar | did you write 'mkfs.ext2 opie.img' before? |
| 22:35.31 | mimecar | s / opie / gpe |
| 22:36.09 | grendal_prime | card was not mounted |
| 22:36.13 | grendal_prime | hold on |
| 22:37.02 | mimecar | ok |
| 22:38.12 | grendal_prime | k |
| 22:38.52 | mimecar | have you follow all the steps ? |
| 22:40.01 | grendal_prime | working on the mount part...doing this on tiny keyboard |
| 22:40.02 | grendal_prime | hehehe |
| 22:40.23 | mimecar | xDDDD |
| 22:42.02 | grendal_prime | ok mount compleated |
| 22:42.33 | grendal_prime | you know im starting to understand whats going on here actually |
| 22:43.00 | mimecar | first you create a folder to mount image file |
| 22:43.02 | grendal_prime | now we set up scripts to point inside that image and then we move the working system into it right? |
| 22:43.11 | mimecar | after , you formated it |
| 22:43.40 | mimecar | there's a special device call loop0 which can mount image files as normal partitions |
| 22:43.44 | grendal_prime | pretty sure i already formated the gpe.image |
| 22:43.53 | mimecar | that's the latest command |
| 22:44.13 | mimecar | yes |
| 22:44.34 | mimecar | on the folder you copy scripts |
| 22:44.36 | mimecar | ./modify_base.sh |
| 22:45.06 | mimecar | that make some changes on system which will give you image file boot |
| 22:45.09 | grendal_prime | how can i check to make sure i formatted the gpe.image file? |
| 22:45.51 | mimecar | ls /media/image |
| 22:46.08 | mimecar | you shouldn't see any file (but you can read directrory) |
| 22:46.39 | grendal_prime | has a lost and found dir in it? |
| 22:46.39 | philippe | night all |
| 22:46.44 | grendal_prime | pretty standard right? |
| 22:47.11 | grendal_prime | ok need to get the other cf card with scripts in it hold on |
| 22:47.14 | mimecar | yes |
| 22:47.28 | mimecar | you need script on some folder |
| 22:48.57 | grendal_prime | anywhere ..i can put on the sd card right..just not inside the imag file |
| 22:49.09 | mimecar | yes |
| 22:49.26 | mimecar | it should not be inside /media/image |
| 22:49.46 | mimecar | if you have then on cf, change to it's directory |
| 22:51.31 | grendal_prime | im there |
| 22:51.42 | grendal_prime | they are on the sd card...in bootup_scripts |
| 22:51.56 | grendal_prime | and im in the dir..the rbot directory |
| 22:52.04 | grendal_prime | next step ready |
| 22:52.28 | mimecar | ./modify_base.sh |
| 22:52.41 | mimecar | ok ? |
| 22:52.50 | grendal_prime | will do now |
| 22:53.10 | mimecar | ./copy_files.sh /media/image |
| 22:53.19 | mimecar | that's the critical command |
| 22:53.29 | mimecar | it copy all files to sd |
| 22:54.47 | grendal_prime | last comand i did the .modify_base.sh..it tried to create a dir we already created |
| 22:54.51 | grendal_prime | came back with an error |
| 22:54.53 | grendal_prime | is that ok? |
| 22:54.59 | mimecar | yes |
| 22:55.04 | mimecar | run again the command |
| 22:55.17 | mimecar | that script creates /media/image |
| 22:55.36 | mimecar | but you can't mount image file if that folder doesn't exist :) |
| 22:55.43 | grendal_prime | right |
| 22:55.46 | grendal_prime | ok |
| 22:55.47 | grendal_prime | did |
| 22:55.54 | mimecar | ./copy... |
| 22:56.21 | grendal_prime | run that now? |
| 22:56.30 | mimecar | yes |
| 22:56.37 | mimecar | ./copy_files.sh /media/image |
| 22:56.42 | grendal_prime | k |
| 22:57.01 | mimecar | ready ? |
| 22:57.04 | grendal_prime | there it goes |
| 22:57.35 | mimecar | you should see all the folders of your zaurus... |
| 22:57.43 | grendal_prime | ya |
| 22:57.53 | grendal_prime | this is wht i ws trying to do by hand the other nigt |
| 22:58.06 | grendal_prime | i was trying to move the folders and ln -s them to the root |
| 22:58.08 | grendal_prime | wasnt working |
| 22:58.19 | grendal_prime | you can do that with opie |
| 22:58.20 | mimecar | the move to sd process is easy |
| 22:58.24 | grendal_prime | or alot of it |
| 22:58.24 | mimecar | is the same |
| 22:58.35 | mimecar | only change image name |
| 22:58.39 | grendal_prime | ok it says its done |
| 22:58.45 | grendal_prime | ya..pretty cool |
| 22:58.48 | mimecar | write 'df -h' |
| 22:58.58 | mimecar | do you have free space on your zaurus ? |
| 22:59.00 | grendal_prime | df -h |
| 22:59.09 | mimecar | yes |
| 22:59.24 | grendal_prime | 93% |
| 23:00.28 | mimecar | good |
| 23:00.38 | mimecar | ./install_init.sh |
| 23:00.52 | mimecar | some times if you don't write /media/image folder |
| 23:01.01 | grendal_prime | wait im sorry 93% used |
| 23:01.03 | mimecar | script copy zaurus memory on zaurus memory... |
| 23:01.12 | mimecar | it's ok |
| 23:01.36 | grendal_prime | so now the ./install script |
| 23:02.03 | mimecar | you have system installed |
| 23:02.09 | mimecar | latest command install the bootloader |
| 23:02.38 | grendal_prime | ok there are two install.script and install_init.sh |
| 23:02.46 | grendal_prime | first do the install.script |
| 23:02.51 | grendal_prime | ? |
| 23:02.52 | mimecar | no |
| 23:03.00 | mimecar | ./install_init.sh |
| 23:03.09 | grendal_prime | ok |
| 23:03.14 | mimecar | one of the scripts call other scripts |
| 23:03.18 | mimecar | you've finish |
| 23:03.19 | grendal_prime | doing now ./install_init.sh |
| 23:03.20 | mimecar | reboot |
| 23:03.27 | mimecar | after |
| 23:03.31 | mimecar | ./install_init.sh |
| 23:03.46 | grendal_prime | creating config file...done |
| 23:03.56 | grendal_prime | reboot now? |
| 23:04.00 | mimecar | yes |
| 23:04.11 | mimecar | you'll show a menu after reboot |
| 23:04.22 | mimecar | open the keyboard and press 'g' (GPE) |
| 23:04.30 | grendal_prime | similar to like grub? |
| 23:05.07 | mimecar | yes |
| 23:05.12 | grendal_prime | worked |
| 23:05.14 | grendal_prime | kick ass dude |
| 23:05.19 | grendal_prime | thats totally cool |
| 23:05.29 | grendal_prime | i owe you a big one thanks man |
| 23:05.38 | grendal_prime | you want ill mary your sister? |
| 23:05.42 | grendal_prime | heheh |
| 23:05.44 | grendal_prime | just kidding |
| 23:05.53 | mimecar | xDDD |
| 23:05.59 | mimecar | open a terminal and run |
| 23:06.01 | mimecar | 'df -h' |
| 23:06.04 | mimecar | no |
| 23:06.05 | mimecar | mount |
| 23:06.24 | mimecar | you should see /dev/loop0 ..... |
| 23:06.40 | mimecar | with a space of 14 mb more or less |
| 23:08.33 | grendal_prime | nope |
| 23:08.39 | grendal_prime | no mention of it actually |
| 23:08.55 | mimecar | do you see /dev/mtdblock ? |
| 23:09.01 | mimecar | or similar |
| 23:09.05 | grendal_prime | ya |
| 23:09.25 | mimecar | yes ? |
| 23:09.31 | grendal_prime | 14.1 |
| 23:09.57 | mimecar | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:10.10 | mimecar | with 'mount' command |
| 23:10.10 | grendal_prime | mtdblock |
| 23:10.15 | mimecar | bad |
| 23:10.25 | mimecar | do you chose gpe on boot ? |
| 23:10.31 | grendal_prime | ya |
| 23:10.37 | mimecar | run again |
| 23:10.41 | grendal_prime | k |
| 23:10.44 | mimecar | ./modifybase.sh |
| 23:10.50 | mimecar | and ./install_init.sh |
| 23:12.56 | grendal_prime | ok hold on a sec |
| 23:14.10 | grendal_prime | Creating our mount points |
| 23:14.10 | grendal_prime | mkdir: Cannot create directory `/media/image': File exists |
| 23:14.10 | grendal_prime | ln: /mnt/image/image: File exists |
| 23:14.10 | grendal_prime | cp: unable to remove `/dev/mmcda1': Success |
| 23:14.10 | grendal_prime | cp: unable to remove `/dev/loop0': Success |
| 23:15.36 | mimecar | yes |
| 23:15.41 | mimecar | next script |
| 23:15.51 | grendal_prime | the init.script, that is like the bootloader file that gets uploaded...but i dont run it here right? |
| 23:16.14 | mimecar | have you run it now ? |
| 23:16.17 | grendal_prime | i do run the install_init.sh |
| 23:16.18 | grendal_prime | no |
| 23:16.27 | grendal_prime | hold on ill run the install_init.sh script |
| 23:16.49 | mimecar | install_init calls the other script |
| 23:16.53 | grendal_prime | Modifying init |
| 23:16.53 | grendal_prime | Init already modified - replacing script |
| 23:16.53 | grendal_prime | Config file found - leaving alone |
| 23:17.02 | mimecar | reboot again |
| 23:17.06 | grendal_prime | k |
| 23:17.20 | grendal_prime | should i hardreboot maybe? |
| 23:17.44 | mimecar | no |
| 23:17.51 | mimecar | "normal reboot" |
| 23:18.00 | grendal_prime | ok |
| 23:20.49 | grendal_prime | same thing on the df |
| 23:21.27 | mimecar | paste all the mount output |
| 23:21.46 | grendal_prime | root@collie:/media# mount |
| 23:21.47 | grendal_prime | /dev/mtdblock4 on / type jffs2 (rw) |
| 23:21.47 | grendal_prime | proc on /proc type proc (rw) |
| 23:21.47 | grendal_prime | ramfs on /dev type ramfs (rw) |
| 23:21.47 | grendal_prime | tmpfs on /var type tmpfs (rw) |
| 23:21.47 | grendal_prime | devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw) |
| 23:21.49 | grendal_prime | /dev/mmcda on /media/card type ext2 (rw) |
| 23:22.44 | mimecar | I don't know |
| 23:22.58 | mimecar | repeat the full process |
| 23:23.04 | mimecar | reformat image file... |
| 23:23.19 | mimecar | i ran that script many times |
| 23:23.32 | mimecar | and it worked (one time it failed) |
| 23:23.42 | mimecar | do you have OZ 3.5.3 ? |
| 23:24.06 | grendal_prime | ya |
| 23:24.08 | grendal_prime | hmmm |
| 23:24.18 | grendal_prime | im wondering if...hmmm |
| 23:24.34 | grendal_prime | its werid if i go to that image file and open it...it has the same thing on the inside |
| 23:24.36 | mimecar | did you download script version for 3.5.3 |
| 23:24.40 | grendal_prime | and over and over again |
| 23:24.46 | grendal_prime | ya i got the right scripts |
| 23:24.58 | mimecar | the problem is that zaurus doesn't load file image |
| 23:25.09 | grendal_prime | ya |
| 23:25.11 | mimecar | is the name "gpe.img" |
| 23:25.21 | mimecar | and it's on the ROOT folder of sd? |
| 23:25.25 | grendal_prime | hehehe |
| 23:25.29 | grendal_prime | hold on |
| 23:25.45 | mimecar | do you have on some subfolder ? |
| 23:26.28 | grendal_prime | no its on the root of the sd..wich is /media/card |
| 23:26.35 | grendal_prime | and it is gpe.img |
| 23:26.48 | mimecar | strange |
| 23:26.54 | grendal_prime | you want to ssh into the thing |
| 23:26.55 | grendal_prime | ? |
| 23:26.58 | mimecar | redo all the steps |
| 23:27.01 | grendal_prime | ok |
| 23:27.08 | mimecar | is not necesary |
| 23:27.45 | mimecar | sd is ext2 before you create the file, isn't it ? |
| 23:30.59 | mimecar | grendal_prime: I'm tire |
| 23:31.08 | mimecar | bed is calling me :0 |
| 23:31.15 | grendal_prime | ya man thats cool |
| 23:31.21 | grendal_prime | thanks loads though im on the right track |
| 23:31.31 | grendal_prime | ill start the thing over again |
| 23:31.35 | mimecar | test again and said me the solution tomorrow |
| 23:31.42 | mimecar | process works |
| 23:31.45 | grendal_prime | k |
| 23:31.51 | grendal_prime | ya seems totally sound |
| 23:31.52 | mimecar | I did the same esteps with my sl5500 |
| 23:31.54 | grendal_prime | thanks again |
| 23:31.58 | grendal_prime | go to beed |
| 23:32.00 | mimecar | with opie fail :p |
| 23:32.04 | mimecar | night all |
| 23:50.53 | *** join/#gpe jserv2_ (n=jserv@linux3.cc.ntu.edu.tw) |
