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| 09:03.51 | koen | hey xora |
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| 10:24.05 | koen | hey dc__ |
| 10:24.56 | dc__ | morning koen |
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| 10:31.09 | florian | good morning |
| 10:32.24 | france | florian: morning |
| 10:33.01 | koen | hey florian & france |
| 10:33.07 | france | koen: hi |
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| 11:10.16 | mimecar | hi |
| 11:13.55 | koen | hey mimecar |
| 11:13.57 | florian | hi mimecar |
| 11:14.06 | mimecar | hi koen and florian |
| 11:14.34 | koen | florian: working from home a few days? |
| 11:14.35 | mimecar | morning :) |
| 11:15.27 | florian | koen: ah well... i was visiting some friends yesterday and today is a public holiday in this area. |
| 11:15.36 | koen | D'oh |
| 11:16.05 | koen | My mother was just complaining that the German office had one of their national holidays again |
| 11:16.30 | florian | hehe |
| 11:17.18 | florian | koen: In fact there are different Germanys ;-) Today isn't a holiday in all parts of Germany. |
| 11:17.34 | mimecar | florian: and on spain |
| 11:17.49 | koen | it used to be a holiday in .nl too |
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| 12:07.51 | philippe_ | florian gpe stuff is maybe better here than on maemo :-) |
| 12:08.07 | florian | indeed.... |
| 12:08.52 | florian | philippe_: I added some more comments, a toolbar and some libgpewidget style sizing. |
| 12:09.32 | philippe_ | I just checked. That definitely seems okay :-) |
| 12:10.51 | philippe_ | Being pissed at myself for being stupid and wanting to avoid being hostile ... |
| 12:11.31 | koen | hey philippe_ |
| 12:12.20 | florian | philippe_: uh... what happened?! |
| 12:13.18 | philippe_ | hey koen :-) |
| 12:13.49 | philippe_ | florian : nothing in particular. Just being annoyed by my lack of social skills on certain occasions. |
| 12:22.29 | florian_ | philippe_: oops |
| 12:25.52 | philippe_ | florian : oops indeed. It would make sense to start a discussion if pretty girls are asking you something.... Just answering it and stop there is pretty stupid... |
| 12:26.22 | _law_ | i cant get gkdial do work :-( |
| 12:26.41 | XorA | philippe_: alcohol is the lubricant that makes that interface work, just dont over lubricate :-) |
| 12:26.42 | koen | NOTE: package gpe-conf-0.1.26: completed |
| 12:27.30 | philippe_ | XorA I'll keep it in mind. However alcohol is really expensive here in Finland (5 euro for a drink is not unusual(... |
| 12:27.33 | koen | I read zeenix' blog about drunken finnish girls yesterday |
| 12:27.42 | XorA | philippe_: HOLY CRAP |
| 12:28.41 | koen | a pint of guinness is ±€5 over here |
| 12:28.58 | philippe_ | koen you have a link for that. (however she was not really drunk...) |
| 12:29.00 | XorA | ~change 5 EUR to GBP |
| 12:29.22 | XorA | ~change 2.50 gbp to eur |
| 12:29.37 | XorA | cost of guineas here |
| 12:29.39 | koen | http://advogato.org/person/zeenix/ |
| 12:31.33 | philippe_ | XorA I come from Belgium. A good beer costs 1,50... |
| 12:33.16 | XorA | philippe_: most of our cost goes to government in duty :-( |
| 12:33.22 | koen | florian_: what do you think of abusing categories to seperate event from .ics files from 'normal' events? |
| 12:33.59 | koen | ~seen fng_sma |
| 12:34.13 | ibot | fng_sma <n=martin@Dbd28.d.pppool.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #gpe, 13d 23h 5m 13s ago, saying: 'I need to go... have a nice day!'. |
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| 12:37.30 | _law_ | koen: could it be possible to port the nokia gprs connection software to my Z? |
| 12:38.02 | koen | pppd is already ported :) |
| 12:38.39 | koen | arent the instructions in http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GPRS working for you? |
| 12:39.38 | florian_ | philippe_: Okay... i can imagine what's up... |
| 12:39.42 | _law_ | koen: shure put ah gui would be cool |
| 12:40.19 | _law_ | koen: panel-applet |
| 12:40.23 | florian_ | koen: ah good... |
| 12:41.28 | florian_ | _law_: Can you pon that connection set up with gkdial from a command line? |
| 12:41.53 | _law_ | florian: yes works fine |
| 12:42.38 | _law_ | only the nodetach option doesnt work. i have removed that from the gkdial source, but i always get the same error :-( |
| 12:43.17 | _law_ | gkdial now connects but i get an error :-/ |
| 12:44.07 | _law_ | i think it doesnt set the CONNECTED status |
| 12:46.37 | florian_ | _law_: that's strange indeed... i wonder what could cause this. |
| 12:47.08 | florian_ | _law_: It might be related to the nodetach option... |
| 12:47.39 | _law_ | florian: perhabs, because i have written the peer-script myself, not via gkdial? |
| 12:48.24 | florian_ | _law_: maybe... are there options missing in gkdial to use your internet connection? |
| 12:50.42 | _law_ | florian: i dont know, i try to build an script via gkdial |
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| 12:59.45 | kammicazze | hi |
| 13:01.21 | florian_ | hi kammicazze |
| 13:01.27 | kammicazze | yesterday i upgraded my ipaq, today i can only log on via serial port. Nothing on the screen. My networks isn't working anymore too :( |
| 13:01.47 | kammicazze | hi florian_ |
| 13:02.07 | florian_ | kammicazze: Which didtribution do you have installed and what did you upgrade? |
| 13:02.30 | kammicazze | familiar 0.8.2/GPE |
| 13:02.46 | kammicazze | i did ipkg update, ipkg upgrade |
| 13:03.03 | _law_ | florian_: there is also a gconf problem and the taskbar applet also doesnt work right :-( |
| 13:03.25 | kammicazze | in the middle i saw disk full. But if i look with df i see 18% free |
| 13:03.51 | kammicazze | network was gone, so i had to reboot and now i'm in this state |
| 13:03.54 | florian_ | koen: does this still happen with 0.1.26? |
| 13:04.47 | florian_ | kammicazze: oh well... try to start gpe-dm from console and checl for errors. |
| 13:04.48 | koen | florian_: the only differences between the gconf I tested with and .26 are the pango fixes |
| 13:05.06 | koen | someone had a look at the gconf-dbus error: http://pastebin.com/413191 |
| 13:05.36 | florian_ | koen: oops.. i referred to the problem about gpe-conf look&feel you reported. |
| 13:05.51 | koen | florian_: yes, me too |
| 13:06.16 | florian_ | koen: but i have a suspend desktop file for the integral we can easily use :-) |
| 13:06.56 | florian_ | koen: that looks like dbus isn't starting anymore. |
| 13:07.26 | koen | I suspect service files aren't getting installed properly or something |
| 13:08.08 | florian_ | koen: i didn't know about that crash... currently i can't reproduce this here. could you to catch me a backtrace? |
| 13:08.32 | florian_ | koen: Do we use gconf-dbus from svn? |
| 13:08.41 | koen | it looks like one those xsettings crashes |
| 13:08.52 | koen | florian_: gconf-dbus tag from gnome cvs iirc |
| 13:10.12 | kammicazze | gpe-dm doesn't do anything. Not even an error message :( |
| 13:10.29 | florian_ | koen: ah.... iirc hallski told us that we should use the one from svn, but i'm not sure if i mix up this with gnome-vfs-dbus. |
| 13:10.42 | koen | could be |
| 13:10.50 | koen | does svn still work with an old dbus? |
| 13:11.12 | florian_ | kammicazze: ah... then try to run the X server first. |
| 13:11.21 | _law_ | florian_: here is the output http://pastebin.com/413195 |
| 13:11.30 | florian_ | koen: i think so... |
| 13:11.35 | kammicazze | florian_, with startx? |
| 13:11.57 | florian_ | kammicazze: Xfbdev |
| 13:12.40 | florian_ | _law_: Strange... anything suspicious in the log? |
| 13:14.13 | _law_ | florian_: which log? |
| 13:14.16 | florian_ | # |
| 13:14.33 | florian_ | _law_: pppd should use syslog |
| 13:15.44 | _law_ | florian_: dmeg doesnt output any ppp stuff |
| 13:16.12 | kammicazze | xserver started, with a few font problems and inet6 problems. But it runs. GPE-dm still doesn't do anything |
| 13:16.42 | _law_ | florian_: ah put syslog |
| 13:16.45 | _law_ | but |
| 13:16.45 | florian_ | _law_: use logread |
| 13:17.16 | kammicazze | aha, logread :) i could use that too :) |
| 13:17.27 | florian_ | kammicazze: okay... kill it and try gpe-dm -n |
| 13:17.30 | kammicazze | X server keeps crashing |
| 13:18.01 | koen | florian_: 0.1.26 says 'settings saved' and justs hangs there |
| 13:19.18 | florian_ | koen: :-/ |
| 13:19.29 | kammicazze | :( error while loading library libXext.so.6 |
| 13:19.54 | florian_ | kammicazze: ah... that sounds like a reason, looks like you lost this one. |
| 13:20.20 | kammicazze | what is the exact syntact to get an ip address from a dhcp server using ifconfig? |
| 13:20.48 | XorA | kammicazze: udhcpc -i wlan0|eth0|usb0 |
| 13:20.49 | koen | udhcpc -i <interface> |
| 13:21.25 | kammicazze | thx |
| 13:23.00 | koen | 'the service org.gnome.GConf was not found in the activation entry list' |
| 13:30.17 | kammicazze | grrr wlan0 doesn't work anymore. Always got Sending discover |
| 13:30.42 | kammicazze | and i'm sure my AP works, as i am connected with my laptop |
| 13:34.41 | florian_ | kammicazze: what does iwconfig show you? |
| 13:36.13 | kammicazze | wlan0 ESSID:"okuwlan" Access Point 00:00:00:00:00:00 |
| 13:36.29 | kammicazze | don't know what that is |
| 13:36.52 | florian_ | kammicazze: well... i know it is wrong ;-) |
| 13:36.58 | XorA | kammicazze: you havent managed to associate with an AP |
| 13:37.04 | florian_ | "iwconfig wlan0 essid any" |
| 13:37.12 | florian_ | and then try again... |
| 13:37.49 | kammicazze | ok, works |
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| 13:39.07 | kammicazze | :( error while loading shared library libipkg.so.0 |
| 13:39.17 | kammicazze | wheni try to do an ipkg update |
| 13:40.27 | kammicazze | seems my libs are al fucked up :( |
| 13:42.11 | kammicazze | is there a magical repair function? ;) |
| 13:43.11 | florian_ | uh.. thats nasty. |
| 13:43.13 | koen | reflashing usually does the trick |
| 13:43.20 | florian_ | heh |
| 13:44.00 | florian_ | kammicazze: if you really want to repair this you can grab the libipkg package and unpack it manually. |
| 13:44.05 | kammicazze | koen, yep, that's what i did before. But everytime i try to upgrade i end in this state :( |
| 13:45.23 | florian_ | kammicazze: upgrading 0.8.2 to unstable is a bad idea at the moment... in this case try one of the unstable images first. |
| 13:45.56 | kammicazze | ok |
| 13:46.14 | kammicazze | and upgrading from an unstable image should be ok? |
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| 13:48.18 | orangey | hey all. |
| 13:48.18 | florian_ | I guess so... maybe koen knows about the quality of the latest ones. |
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| 13:48.31 | florian_ | hi lolita__, hi orangey |
| 13:48.38 | orangey | I'm trying to get kdepimpi-x11 compiled using bitbake.. and as such have to compile qt-x11-free |
| 13:48.46 | orangey | however, I get the following error: http://oe.pastebin.com/413220 |
| 13:48.49 | orangey | any ideas? |
| 13:48.56 | koen | orangey: #oe |
| 13:49.05 | orangey | hey florian! |
| 13:49.18 | orangey | koen: I have been on the channel since yesterday, and there has been 0 activity |
| 13:49.39 | koen | upgrading using the preconfigured feeds for upgrading should always work |
| 13:49.52 | koen | orangey: nevertheless, #oe is the correct channel |
| 13:50.09 | koen | since gpe doesn't use qt |
| 13:50.11 | koen | and never will |
| 13:50.12 | orangey | koen: I understand. But you're all the correct people who would help me anyhow : ) |
| 13:50.22 | koen | no we aren't |
| 13:50.25 | orangey | koen: True. However, This is all to get kdepimpi-x11 compiled. |
| 13:50.48 | koen | koen: orangey: nevertheless, #oe is the correct channel |
| 13:50.48 | koen | [14:50] koen: since gpe doesn't use qt |
| 13:50.48 | koen | [14:50] koen: and never will |
| 13:51.14 | orangey | koen: OK, perhaps not you, but who always helps me? Zecke, pigi, florian, hrw, philippe |
| 13:51.42 | koen | koen: orangey: nevertheless, #oe is the correct channel |
| 13:51.44 | koen | [14:50] koen: since gpe doesn't use qt |
| 13:51.44 | koen | [14:50] koen: and never will |
| 13:51.59 | orangey | the OE community is so small that I think it's quite counterproductive that it's split into at least 5 channels (gpe / opie / familiar / hh , oe) |
| 13:52.12 | florian | orangey: well... i guess most of them won't be able to help with compiling qt anyway... |
| 13:52.16 | orangey | koen: just put me on ignore and be done with it. |
| 13:52.47 | orangey | koen: because it seems like you resent what I see regardless what channel it's in. |
| 13:52.49 | koen | to OE community is in #oe |
| 13:53.43 | koen | and you have an OE problem |
| 13:53.50 | koen | so #oe is the place to ask |
| 13:54.49 | florian | orangey: In this context koen is right, all questions about building stuff with oe should go to #oe, the other projects like GPE and Familiar are independent from oe itself... |
| 13:56.05 | florian | orangey: It might be possible that one of the people in #opie is used to build qt with oe... most of us usually try to avoid qt in favour of gtk. |
| 13:57.23 | lolita__ | hi florian_ |
| 14:00.59 | orangey | florian: I understand the technicalities of the issue. However, the reality is that nobody other than me has said a word in #oe since 1219h yesterday , and it's now 0758 the next day. So, where does that leave me? Unwilling to ask the question outside the channel for fear of being practical? I don't buy it. I asked here and #opie - both technically breaking the rule, and finally got my help in opie. The point being: The community is so |
| 14:00.59 | orangey | am I trying to do? kdepimpi-x11 for GPE. So it's not like I'm totally off-base. Not that it mattered anyway. Any question about anything asked here has literally been met by the same response unless it's been about some minisculity of GPE. again, not practical, and the energy devoted to it detracts from spending the brain cells on solving the problem. |
| 14:03.52 | koen | unless you port all qt call to gtk, you can't build kdepimpi-x11 for gpe |
| 14:04.14 | florian | orangey: oh well... looks like #oe is in bad condition. |
| 14:04.47 | orangey | koen: that's untrue |
| 14:04.48 | koen | so you can either mail the oe mailinglist or expand the bugzilla entry for your .bb |
| 14:04.53 | orangey | koen: in fact, it has already been done by hrw |
| 14:05.00 | orangey | bug #371 on OE |
| 14:05.02 | koen | orangey: bullshit |
| 14:05.08 | koen | gpe doesn't use qt |
| 14:05.22 | orangey | koen: and it doesn't have to. What *I* am doing is compiling it so I can package it. |
| 14:05.23 | florian | Who maintains the kde stuff in oe? |
| 14:05.43 | koen | see the MAINTAINER field inside the .bb |
| 14:05.58 | koen | if it's missing, oe@handhelds.org maintains it |
| 14:06.00 | orangey | http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371 |
| 14:07.49 | koen | that doesn't mention gpe |
| 14:08.06 | koen | koen: so you can either mail the oe mailinglist or expand the bugzilla entry for your .bb |
| 14:08.14 | orangey | koen: regardless, the program runs on x11 |
| 14:08.19 | koen | so? |
| 14:08.25 | koen | x11 != gpe |
| 14:20.37 | orangey | it doesn't strike you as the first step to getting it to work on gpe? |
| 14:22.12 | koen | no |
| 14:22.22 | koen | the first step would be to use gtk |
| 14:23.08 | orangey | koen: right. so there's this thing called practicality... |
| 14:23.16 | koen | so? |
| 14:23.44 | koen | stop polluting #gpe and ask your questions in the appropriate channels |
| 14:24.12 | orangey | most people use it as a factor in their decisions. Others use dogma, but it's generally agreed that while we respect the dogmatists for their disciplined stances, sometimes things they do don't work well in the real world. |
| 14:25.07 | koen | what's practicall about harassing gpe people about some qt app? |
| 14:25.19 | koen | not using qt is the whole point of gpe |
| 14:25.46 | koen | so get practical and ask your questions in the appropriate channels |
| 14:26.06 | koen | hint: #gpe isn't appropriate |
| 14:27.15 | philippe_ | re |
| 14:28.33 | philippe_ | mhh, koen seems pissed off... |
| 14:28.39 | koen | philippe_: wb |
| 14:28.54 | koen | 'tenacious' would be a better description |
| 14:29.02 | orangey | koen: I am trying to use GPE. that's topical. Now, in GPE and only FOR GPE, I want this particular app suite: kdepim. Because GPE doesn't run qt stuff, people (I'm not the first) have tried to get kdepim to be an X11 application. If you were to think about it, that's A Good Thing for GPE, despite your personal opinion. I am trying to do my part by taking work another person has done and packaging it up so that other people (yes, there |
| 14:29.02 | orangey | g to go through the hell that I have gone through. |
| 14:29.52 | koen | it isn't a good thing |
| 14:30.01 | orangey | so if you don't like it, you don't have to. but you should not be this way to people. |
| 14:30.04 | koen | enhancing gpe pim would be a good thing |
| 14:30.43 | koen | orangey: all I'm saying is that you should ask your questions somewhere else |
| 14:30.45 | orangey | koen: There are many points of view, you see. You hold one. That's great. I respect it and can see it from your perspective. I'm the kind of guy who ran WINE for quite some time when I first made my jump to Linux. |
| 14:31.26 | philippe_ | ok orangey. That is very good to try to run opie/kde apps on GPE. And it might benefit some people. Still I think we/GPE don't have to support you doing that. We either don't have the necessary QT/KDE knowledge or no time to spend on something we don't see as important enough. |
| 14:31.40 | orangey | koen: and all I'm saying is that you are the only reason for that to be true. That means you're bullying me off because of your personal opinion and adhereance to technicality when it is *obvious* that I can't get help in OE, where I have been the only one talking for 20 hours now. |
| 14:32.15 | philippe_ | What koen tries to say is that we are not the people you should be asking. And we cannot be held responsible for what happens on #OE. |
| 14:32.19 | koen | orangey: like I said, mail the oe mailinglist and/or exand the bugzilla bug |
| 14:33.03 | orangey | philippe: This started with me asking a question about compiling qt-something or other. if the knowledge exists in this channel, ideally it should be given. If not, then it's sufficient to say it doesn't. What I am / was asking is not grossly unreasonable, even if it is not directly on topic. |
| 14:33.18 | orangey | philippe: and ultimately, it is a gpe-related matter. |
| 14:34.06 | philippe_ | orangey, true that this is gpe related. But you are trying to do something as asking Microsoft support to run GTK+ apps on windows... |
| 14:34.50 | philippe_ | We might be willing to help you, and we did in some way to point you to the places where help might be available. We cannot garantee you will be helped there though |
| 14:35.22 | philippe_ | Even if some of us are apparently tracking other irc channels |
| 14:36.08 | philippe_ | If it does not build, like I can make up from the bugzilla entry you pointed out, it is an OE or kdepim bug, not GPE. |
| 14:36.16 | orangey | philippe: a more relevant metaphor is you're telling wine developers to go to windows for assistance. |
| 14:36.37 | orangey | philippe: Whatever is in the bugzilla indeed does build. |
| 14:37.02 | orangey | phil: It just needs to be packaged, and hrw appears to have lost interest |
| 14:37.22 | orangey | philippe: So I'm trying to finish his work, but it has involved trying to get lots and lots of other things working. |
| 14:37.29 | orangey | (unfortunately) |
| 14:37.39 | philippe_ | orangey : that might be a better metaphor. And seems you're problem is already half-way solved. |
| 14:38.42 | philippe_ | But the packaging is an OE problem, not GPE. So it definitely makes more sense to take it up with those people or the maintainer of the software. Nothing we can really do here... |
| 14:38.45 | orangey | philippe: Well, it was quickly obvious that help wouldn't come on my actual problem - so I've been flailing around with what I know to fix it. But the issue is one of principle. #GPE should not be this hostile to people trying to work on things for it, even if they are people like me doing things like I'm doing. |
| 14:40.05 | philippe_ | koen might have come over as hostile. But the thing is that for that specific problem it is not our fault and we basically have no direct interest in fixing it. So it is not unreasonable of us to ask you to take up that matter somewhere else either isn't it? |
| 14:42.39 | orangey | philippe: might? There are polite ways and rude ways, and koen is being rude. And you may have no direct interest in fixing it, but the chances are *somebody* does. why not just leave the question to hang like so many other questions? |
| 14:46.09 | philippe_ | orangey ok leave it hanging if you really want. But take it up with the OE mailing list if they don't respond on OE or check with opie people that should know how to deal with this. Anyway I have more important things to do, so as far as me is concerned this matter is closed. |
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| 15:13.43 | rob_w | phuew what a history to read , today ... seems #gpe is suffering some social problems today :-) |
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| 16:21.48 | XorA | orangey: erm are you on the same #oe as me, weve defineately been talking in last 20 hours |
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| 16:53.10 | Skyhusker | hi |
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| 17:14.23 | lardman | New gpe-conf, good good |
| 17:15.28 | Debolaz | My GPE refuses to suspend now. :( |
| 17:15.40 | lardman | Because of the new gpe-conf? |
| 17:15.47 | Debolaz | No, probably because of me. |
| 17:15.53 | lardman | ah, fair enough |
| 17:16.23 | philippe | hey orangey evening guys |
| 17:16.43 | lardman | hi philippe |
| 17:57.43 | lardman | night all |
| 17:57.48 | philippe | night lardman |
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| 18:22.10 | _law_ | florian: gkdial now connects also with nodetach option but error message ist also here :-( |
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| 18:40.24 | florian | re |
| 18:42.09 | koen | florian: wb |
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| 18:46.18 | mimecar | evening |
| 18:46.26 | philippe | hey mimecar |
| 18:47.30 | mimecar | evening philippe |
| 18:51.58 | mimecar | philippe: I have some icons for mini browser |
| 18:52.08 | mimecar | from art.gnome.org theme page |
| 18:52.24 | philippe | mimecar, nice... where can I find them? |
| 18:52.56 | mimecar | http://art.gnome.org/themes/icon/1136 |
| 18:53.26 | mimecar | http://art.gnome.org/themes/icon/1111 |
| 18:53.56 | mimecar | humility-icons-MERGE\48x48\apps folder, see web-browser |
| 18:54.25 | philippe | mimecar, indeed does not look bad |
| 18:54.47 | mimecar | stilllife\48x48\apps\gnome-globr |
| 18:54.55 | mimecar | that's similar to the current icon |
| 18:55.22 | mimecar | humillity icons are gpl |
| 18:55.29 | mimecar | the other, creative common |
| 18:55.35 | rob_w | how can i delete old files from the wiki ? |
| 18:56.18 | mimecar | no idea |
| 18:58.11 | mimecar | philippe: http://jini.kldp.net/ |
| 18:58.33 | mimecar | mozilla firefox icon looks good, but it has not the same look as gnome default theme |
| 19:01.17 | philippe | mimecar, nice icons indeed. Especially the stilllife one. |
| 19:01.55 | mimecar | yes |
| 19:02.04 | mimecar | stilllibe hasn't many icons |
| 19:02.17 | mimecar | have you see the latest web page ? |
| 19:02.30 | mimecar | it looks good for a new icon theme |
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| 19:05.14 | mimecar | 306 icons on svg format.... interesting |
| 19:05.21 | mimecar | only for applications |
| 19:05.56 | mimecar | all the folders, 700... icons :) |
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| 19:09.22 | reenoo | evening |
| 19:09.38 | Koen|tablet | hey reenoo |
| 19:10.07 | reenoo | hi Koen|tablet |
| 19:12.20 | mimecar | hi reenoo & Koen|770 |
| 19:12.36 | Koen|770 | hey mimecar |
| 19:12.48 | reenoo | hola mimecar |
| 19:12.52 | mimecar | one question |
| 19:12.59 | mimecar | is there some map with gpe developers ? |
| 19:13.19 | reenoo | there's one on gpe.hh.org |
| 19:13.36 | Koen|770 | there is one one gpe.handhelds.org |
| 19:13.57 | reenoo | heh |
| 19:14.08 | mimecar | ok |
| 19:14.40 | florian | oh.. the map... |
| 19:15.40 | koen | and one on http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/maps/ |
| 19:17.41 | reenoo | 08:16PM <CIA-7> rw org.oe.dev * rcd6155a0... /: gpe-bootsplash: add new |
| 19:17.41 | reenoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:17.51 | koen | cool |
| 19:18.14 | reenoo | I've pushed a landscape version as well |
| 19:18.15 | koen | could you attach the patch/new svg to oe bug #350? |
| 19:24.17 | koen | reenoo: could you upload the version with editable text to hh.org? |
| 19:25.30 | reenoo | I guess I could, but that's not the final version |
| 19:26.10 | reenoo | the text->path conversion has some side-effects |
| 19:26.42 | reenoo | on color/size/position |
| 19:27.41 | koen | I guess that's an inkscape bug |
| 19:29.08 | reenoo | well. at the end of the day all you need is the font that was used which is bitstream vera sans |
| 19:31.15 | reenoo | is there any particular reason for the "attach patch to #350" procedure? all you should need is the revision. |
| 19:31.39 | koen | less work |
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| 19:34.54 | reenoo | well. not for me. I'd have to first create the patch, then scp it via two hosts and then attach it. I'll add a comment with a reference to the revision and that will have to do. |
| 19:37.12 | koen | which means I'll just copy over the gpe-bootsplash dir from .dev to the branch |
| 19:37.23 | koen | monotone doesn't really support cherry picking |
| 19:38.32 | reenoo | in a way it does |
| 19:39.12 | reenoo | monotone log + monotone diff + the revision in question + some scripting should work |
| 19:40.16 | reenoo | could even preserve the log message that way |
| 19:41.17 | koen | fails on renames |
| 19:41.53 | koen | in theory you can attach a branch cert to the revision |
| 19:42.40 | kammicazze | hi, how can i see if i am running stable or unstable? |
| 19:43.03 | koen | settings -> system info |
| 19:43.30 | reenoo | koen: anyways. attaching patches to bugzilla is backwards. and renames should be trivial to handle |
| 19:43.50 | koen | I agree |
| 19:44.01 | koen | but monotone doesn't seem to have a way to export a 'cset' |
| 19:44.14 | koen | or import a single revision into a branch |
| 19:44.43 | koen | it does, but not in 0.23 |
| 19:45.05 | kammicazze | Distribution: openembedded build 2005-04-07 |
| 19:45.16 | kammicazze | is that stable? |
| 19:45.48 | koen | I think so |
| 19:46.29 | reenoo | koen: http://bugs.openembedded.org/attachment.cgi?id=364 |
| 19:46.31 | kammicazze | strange, on the download page i selected unstable |
| 19:46.45 | koen | reenoo: thanks |
| 19:46.50 | kammicazze | but now that it is unpacked, it seems the stable one |
| 19:46.54 | kammicazze | :( |
| 19:47.04 | koen | kammicazze: it links to the same file |
| 19:47.16 | kammicazze | :( |
| 19:47.19 | koen | http://familiar.handhelds.org/snapshots/ |
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| 19:48.23 | kammicazze | ok, i will take one of those. thx |
| 19:49.43 | kammicazze | will it work if i just put that feed url in the ipkg.conf to upgrade or isn't it a good id? |
| 19:50.12 | koen | that isn't a good idea |
| 19:50.31 | kammicazze | ok |
| 19:50.31 | koen | although in theory it should work |
| 19:50.34 | reenoo | koen: do you have a landscape device (clamshell Z or something) with familiar on it btw? I haven't tested the landscape svg... |
| 19:50.46 | kammicazze | do you wan't me to test the theory? ;) |
| 19:50.55 | koen | I have a landscape device |
| 19:53.02 | kammicazze | koen, is that a 2.6 kernel already for the 3900? |
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| 19:53.26 | koen | 2.6 isn't really ready for h39xx and h5xxx |
| 19:53.37 | kammicazze | ok |
| 19:53.39 | mreimer_ | hey koen |
| 19:53.46 | koen | hey mreimer_ |
| 19:54.04 | mreimer_ | koen, do you think we'll be able to have h2200 supported by the next release? |
| 19:54.19 | reenoo | koen: ok, let me know if I didn't get the "scaling compensation" right for the landscape svg >:) |
| 19:54.22 | mreimer_ | I think it's just a matter of some OE love |
| 19:54.53 | koen | mreimer_: I think so |
| 19:55.15 | mreimer_ | great. I'll try to go through my list of bugs and add relevant ones to bug 350 |
| 19:58.29 | kammicazze | is syncing already possible with evolution from gpe? |
| 19:58.33 | reenoo | heh |
| 19:58.41 | reenoo | http://changelog.complete.org/node/408 |
| 19:59.56 | koen | kammicazze: it is |
| 20:00.18 | kammicazze | nice |
| 20:00.21 | reenoo | koen: is that documented anywhere? |
| 20:00.57 | reenoo | would be a "killer feature" if we could make that work pretty much out of the box |
| 20:01.05 | koen | http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gpe/base/gpe-opensync/INSTALL?rev=1.3&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup |
| 20:01.17 | koen | gpesyncd is in recent images by default |
| 20:05.10 | reenoo | hmm. sounds like the opensync stuff is still far from being included in major distros... |
| 20:05.46 | koen | you could also use the old multisync plugin |
| 20:05.54 | koen | but multisync is essentially dead |
| 20:07.50 | reenoo | well. I'm not too much thinking of myself here. I mean, obviously I don't mind compiling stuff from source |
| 20:08.23 | koen | same here |
| 20:10.05 | reenoo | maybe we should poke some of our resident DDs to get it into Debian at least >:) |
| 20:13.36 | mimecar | anyone know's the mo-keyring home page ? |
| 20:13.54 | koen | themac.club.fr iirc |
| 20:13.58 | koen | ~seen molivier |
| 20:14.11 | ibot | molivier <n=mac@212.194.143.210> was last seen on IRC in channel #gpe, 17d 9h 30m 4s ago, saying: 'hi all'. |
| 20:14.50 | mimecar | found |
| 20:14.52 | mimecar | http://themac.club.fr/index.php |
| 20:15.03 | mimecar | thanks koen |
| 20:15.42 | florian | reenoo: Thats really a problem... we should ask the maintainers of OpenSync to fix this issue... |
| 20:16.58 | reenoo | florian: you mean the upstream maintainers? (opensync isn't in debian AFAICT) |
| 20:17.23 | koen | armin bauer? |
| 20:17.41 | mimecar | koen do you know if mo-keyring has encriptation ? |
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| 20:18.11 | florian | reenoo, koen: yes |
| 20:18.24 | koen | mimecar: no idea |
| 20:18.27 | mimecar | ok |
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| 20:18.41 | florian | koen: I met him at LinuxTag and we had a nice chat about syncing and OpenSync. |
| 20:21.57 | pb_ | florian: good evening |
| 20:25.08 | florian | hey pb_ |
| 20:25.34 | reenoo | evening pb_ |
| 20:26.21 | mimecar | hi reenoo |
| 20:30.12 | mimecar | bye |
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| 20:34.55 | *** topic/#gpe is The GPE Palmtop Environment - http://gpe.handhelds.org/ | GPE Wiki: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GPEProject |familiar snapshots: http://familiar.handhelds.org/snapshots/ | Development Manual (in progress): http://www.kernelconcepts.de/~fuchs/gpe/doc/devmanual/ | GPE 2.7 frozen. Finish the bugfixing -> http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GPEToFixFor2_2e7 |
| 20:37.04 | pb_ | hi reenoo |
| 20:41.01 | koen | yay! |
| 20:41.04 | koen | gpe-screenshot |
| 20:41.56 | reenoo | heh |
| 20:42.07 | reenoo | working on releasing it... yeah |
| 20:42.15 | florian | reenoo: cool |
| 20:43.53 | florian | koen: If you manage to find out where gpe-conf hangs on your device that would rock. |
| 20:44.18 | koen | florian: starting it from the menu works better |
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| 20:44.41 | florian | ~lart matchbox |
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| 20:45.54 | *** topic/#gpe is The GPE Palmtop Environment - http://gpe.handhelds.org/ | GPE Wiki: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GPEProject |familiar snapshots: http://familiar.handhelds.org/snapshots/ | Development Manual (in progress): http://www.kernelconcepts.de/~fuchs/gpe/doc/devmanual/ | GPE 2.7 frozen. Finish the bugfixing -> http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GPEToFixFor2_2e7 |
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| 20:52.47 | florian | koen: do you anything new about a matchbox release? |
| 20:52.52 | florian | hi univac |
| 20:52.56 | koen | 'soon' |
| 20:53.06 | koen | mallum did put mb2 in svn |
| 20:53.55 | florian | His maintainance philosophy is a little bit crappy :-/ |
| 20:54.59 | florian | It would be bad to have a distribution release depending on soem svn version of matchbox. |
| 20:58.26 | reenoo | 09:57PM <CIA-7> rw org.oe.dev * r88d7908c... /: gpe-screenshot: add initial |
| 20:58.27 | reenoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:59.34 | reenoo | gentlemen, start your bitbakes :) |
| 21:02.40 | florian_kc | reenoo: cool! |
| 21:03.21 | koen | http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/deploy/ipk/gpe-screenshot_0.4-r0_armv5te.ipk |
| 21:03.31 | florian_kc | ah a koen-echo ;-) |
| 21:03.54 | koen | ;) |
| 21:06.19 | pb_ | florian_kc: isn't it a little late to be going to kc? |
| 21:07.39 | florian_kc | pb_: yeah... someone tried to open a chat dialog and i switched to a registered nick. |
| 21:07.59 | florian_kc | i should search for some replacement... |
| 21:08.06 | pb_ | ah, heh |
| 21:26.09 | florian_kc | reenoo: Great work - i'm convinced i'll love this application! |
| 21:32.22 | koen | time to get annoyed by david caruso |
| 21:33.07 | koen | ~praise emily proctor |
| 21:33.08 | ibot | All hail emily proctor! |
| 21:33.40 | florian_kc | koen: ehhh? |
| 21:33.52 | koen | florian_kc: csi: miami |
| 21:34.17 | florian_kc | ah... |
| 21:37.24 | reenoo | florian_kc: glad you like it :) |
| 21:41.18 | florian_kc | reenoo: yes really... |
| 22:01.26 | florian_kc | philippe: enjoy! |
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| 22:41.01 | reenoo | 'night all |
| 22:42.04 | koen | 'night reenoo |
| 22:42.35 | florian_kc | reenoo: good night |
| 22:45.18 | pH5 | good night |
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| 23:04.34 | florian_kc | good night |
| 23:05.09 | koen | 'ight florian_kc |
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