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| 00:50.18 | orangey | hey all! |
| 00:50.38 | orangey | I'm having a bit of trouble with gpe.. |
| 00:51.16 | orangey | one interesting thing is that it seems like there's a focus problem.. When I start up my "terminal window", very often I can't "focus" on it, and the keyboard types into somewhere else (null?) |
| 01:37.20 | Cwiiis | night all |
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| 05:47.06 | mreimer_ | anybody know how to make matchbox-keyboard fit a 240x320 screen? |
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| 08:21.05 | bedboi | hi there |
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| 08:41.14 | bedboi | hey koen |
| 08:41.31 | koen | hey bedboi |
| 08:42.15 | bedboi | maybe i successfully compiled the first deb |
| 08:42.19 | bedboi | for maemo |
| 08:42.36 | bedboi | gpe-calendar of course |
| 08:43.03 | bedboi | let's try |
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| 08:45.31 | bedboi | doh |
| 08:45.35 | bedboi | something went wrong |
| 08:46.10 | bedboi | it says me that there are problems installing the package |
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| 09:17.34 | rob_w-cgi | hey guys ,, we from the htc-blueangel project are fedup with sourceforge .. what and how can we apply for a hh.org cvs |
| 09:17.59 | koen | mail to admin@hh.org |
| 09:44.53 | koen | heh |
| 09:45.02 | koen | it looks like florian made a small mistake: http://handhelds.org:8080/gpe/chngview?cn=721 |
| 09:45.54 | bedboi | what? |
| 09:46.07 | bedboi | checking |
| 09:46.40 | bedboi | what mistake |
| 09:46.55 | bedboi | ah yep |
| 09:47.08 | bedboi | -2005-10-24 Luca De Cicco <ldecicco@gmail.com> |
| 09:47.08 | bedboi | -* day_render.c: Displaying event boxes with rounded corners |
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| 09:57.21 | _law_ | hey |
| 09:58.51 | koen | hey _law_ |
| 10:04.56 | _law_ | any ideas how i can get root from an python tool? |
| 10:05.12 | _law_ | or should i change permissions of pppd and /dev/ppp ? |
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| 10:10.22 | koen | I think you could use gpe-su |
| 10:10.46 | _law_ | koen okay thanks i will try it |
| 10:14.39 | _law_ | gpe-su open only an su window? |
| 10:15.12 | _law_ | su terminal |
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| 10:33.46 | jsmanrique | hi |
| 10:34.12 | Debolaz | But hi. |
| 10:37.23 | lucasvo | http://pastebin.com/406307 < what is wrong with it? |
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| 10:39.43 | koen | lucasvo: #oe |
| 10:42.09 | lucasvo | koen: nobody responding |
| 10:43.47 | krokas | koen: Did you try to compile an image of GPE for Nokia 770 with OE, does it work on it? |
| 10:45.29 | bedboi | i'm writing autotools config for gpe-announce, btw PACKAGE is not defined |
| 10:45.32 | bedboi | how ocme |
| 10:45.35 | bedboi | s/ocme/come |
| 10:46.46 | krokas | koen: Screenshots ? |
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| 10:49.00 | koen | krokas: see the gallery |
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| 10:53.19 | krokas | koen: Do you want to make a complete port of GPE to Nokia 770, so that to replace Maemo? |
| 10:54.01 | koen | port gpe? |
| 10:54.21 | koen | there's nothing to port |
| 10:55.02 | koen | the most important gpe stuff is already hildonised |
| 10:55.19 | bedboi | i'm hildonising gpe-announce |
| 10:55.19 | krokas | interesting |
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| 10:57.49 | bedboi | at least autotools are working |
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| 11:38.05 | XorA | is it possible to re-order the icons on the matchbox-panel? |
| 11:41.21 | _law_ | how can i us gpe-su to start an other application? |
| 11:44.41 | katossi | is there any pdf reader in gpe by default? if not what do you recommend me to install? |
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| 11:47.52 | koen | evince or gpdf |
| 11:48.49 | _law_ | if i close gpe-su i get the following: error: urxvt: cont get colour '#969696', continuing without. |
| 11:53.13 | koen | that's a known bug |
| 11:54.15 | koen | actually... |
| 11:54.27 | koen | _law_: could you file a bug for that in hh.org bugzilla? |
| 11:54.49 | _law_ | koen: ok |
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| 12:30.07 | Skyhusker | hi |
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| 12:39.29 | bedboi_ | hi |
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| 13:02.33 | _law_ | has anyone tried to port gnome ppp (http://www.icmreza.co.yu/blogs/vladecks/en/?page_id=4) ? |
| 13:03.06 | _law_ | would be a cool app, if gprs dialin would work. going to test it on my notebook |
| 13:03.15 | koen | we have gkdial |
| 13:06.26 | _law_ | but it doesnt work with gprs or? |
| 13:06.39 | koen | it's a ppp frontend |
| 13:07.22 | _law_ | koen i?ll try it |
| 13:08.25 | _law_ | koen: is there an ready version anywhere? |
| 13:08.35 | koen | it should be in the feeds |
| 13:09.15 | koen | <insert disclaimer about crappy opiezaurus feeds> |
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| 14:01.53 | bedboi | i'm still having problems running hildonised applications |
| 14:07.06 | koen | in SDK_ARM or SDK_PC? |
| 14:13.20 | bedboi | SDK_PC |
| 14:13.21 | bedboi | :) |
| 14:13.42 | bedboi | koen: are you able to run hildonised applications? |
| 14:14.02 | bedboi | gpe-calendar doesn't work |
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| 14:14.09 | koen | no, I only compiled gpesyncd in SDK_ARM |
| 14:15.30 | bedboi | do |
| 14:15.30 | bedboi | doh |
| 14:27.40 | koen | bedboi: with the resizing, couldn't you just increase/decrease endtime with 15 minutes based on the cursor movement? |
| 14:35.26 | koen | bedboi: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/deploy/ipk/gpe-calendar_0.65+cvs-20051027-r0_armv5te.ipk |
| 14:35.40 | koen | latest cvs |
| 14:38.20 | koen | with a scap: http://handhelds.org/scap/land.17058.png |
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| 14:44.32 | koen | bedboi: as you can see the reminders is a bit shifted to the right |
| 14:47.16 | bedboi | koen: that's the gap |
| 14:47.33 | bedboi | i should pass it as a constructor parameter |
| 14:56.56 | bedboi | koen: i'm really hating maemo development environment |
| 14:56.56 | bedboi | :) |
| 14:58.02 | koen | the trick was symlinking /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig to /usr/lib/pkgconfig |
| 14:58.23 | bedboi | that's not the problem |
| 14:58.46 | bedboi | the problem is that i can't run gpe-calendar in Xephyr |
| 14:58.51 | bedboi | neither gpe-announce |
| 15:00.25 | koen | the normal gpe-calender on has '< okt > < 2005 >' in month view, but the hildon one has day and week too |
| 15:01.22 | koen | I like the normal behaviour better |
| 15:03.14 | koen | hmmm |
| 15:03.17 | bedboi | did you successfully created the deb |
| 15:03.21 | bedboi | i mean did you installed? |
| 15:03.25 | koen | editing categories doesn't work either |
| 15:03.30 | koen | I installed it |
| 15:03.46 | bedboi | i had problems |
| 15:03.54 | bedboi | missing dependency i think |
| 15:03.58 | bedboi | maemo |
| 15:04.20 | koen | http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/maemo/gpe-calendar_0.66-1_arm.deb |
| 15:05.37 | koen | I built everything with ./configure &&make -j5 && make install |
| 15:05.51 | bedboi | ./configure --enable-hildon |
| 15:05.54 | koen | and after that I did a 'dpkg-buildpackage' in the gpe-calendar dir |
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| 15:10.24 | bedboi | koen: can you try to run gpe-calendar in sb ? |
| 15:12.20 | koen | it runs 'sort of' in SDK_ARM |
| 15:14.35 | koen | bedboi: I run sb on my server |
| 15:14.41 | koen | and ssh to it from my powerbook |
| 15:16.06 | bedboi | hmmm |
| 15:16.10 | bedboi | i'm just giving up |
| 15:16.12 | bedboi | for now |
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| 15:16.36 | bedboi | oh |
| 15:16.36 | bedboi | ! |
| 15:16.40 | bedboi | florian_kc :) |
| 15:16.51 | florian_kc | good morning ;-) |
| 15:17.21 | bedboi | at least evening :) |
| 15:17.45 | florian_kc | don't we have ugt here? ;-) |
| 15:18.24 | bedboi | florian_kc: i'm having problems running applications in sb |
| 15:18.34 | bedboi | and Xephyr |
| 15:19.26 | bedboi | i'm porting gpe-announce |
| 15:19.29 | koen | hey florian_kc |
| 15:19.34 | bedboi | i already did the autotools stuff |
| 15:19.41 | bedboi | and some hildon stuff too |
| 15:19.45 | bedboi | but i'm not able to test it |
| 15:20.04 | koen | florian_kc: <koen> : the normal gpe-calender on has '< okt > < 2005 >' in month view, but the hildon one has day and week too |
| 15:21.27 | florian_kc | koen: yes right... i moved the week to the start last night. |
| 15:21.43 | bedboi | florian_kc: do you have any hints? |
| 15:21.45 | florian_kc | bedboi: oh... what is wrong? |
| 15:22.01 | bedboi | florian_kc: i run af-sb-init.sh start after export DISPLAY... |
| 15:22.13 | bedboi | then i run from sb shell ./gpe-calendar |
| 15:22.17 | bedboi | but nothing happens |
| 15:22.21 | florian_kc | bedboi: yes... create an x86 target instead of an arm one. |
| 15:22.23 | bedboi | it just returns |
| 15:22.32 | bedboi | i'm using SDK_PC |
| 15:22.44 | florian_kc | bedboi: ah... run-standalone.sh ./gpe-calendar |
| 15:23.05 | florian_kc | this sets up some environment stuff... |
| 15:23.12 | bedboi | it works |
| 15:23.15 | bedboi | :) |
| 15:23.16 | bedboi | thanks |
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| 15:23.22 | florian_kc | LANGUAGE=en_GB is a good idea too. |
| 15:23.36 | florian_kc | bedboi: yw - good idea porting gpe announce! |
| 15:24.02 | bedboi | that's the missing part of gpe PIM |
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| 15:24.15 | florian_kc | yep |
| 15:24.19 | florian_kc | hi pH5 |
| 15:24.27 | pH5 | hi everyone |
| 15:24.37 | koen | florian_kc: compare http://handhelds.org/scap/land.24171.png and http://www.kernelconcepts.de/~fuchs/nokia770/screenshots/cal7.png |
| 15:24.46 | koen | hey ph5 |
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| 15:27.48 | koen | florian_kc: why does the maemo month view have '<week 43> <di, 25>'? |
| 15:29.07 | florian_kc | hmm... good question... |
| 15:32.47 | _law_ | gkdial always prints an error :-( |
| 15:33.16 | _law_ | "Connection timed out. Is your modem connected?" but it connects! |
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| 15:33.20 | mimecar | evening |
| 15:36.16 | koen | mimecar: do you have a howto on installing a new icon-theme? |
| 15:36.38 | mimecar | more or less |
| 15:36.51 | mimecar | i overwrite system icons now |
| 15:37.04 | mimecar | but I know metacity can use different icon themes |
| 15:37.13 | mimecar | without overwrite default theme |
| 15:38.09 | mimecar | I can see metacity guide this night |
| 15:41.24 | koen | florian_kc: congrats |
| 15:41.38 | florian_kc | s/new/newer ;-) |
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| 15:43.45 | mimecar | koen: I think I will have free time this night, I can write a mini guide |
| 15:43.47 | florian_kc | After bashing the insurance company this morning it took me only one hour to get the paper i need... |
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| 16:26.47 | _law_ | is it possible to set an dialog to the background? |
| 16:31.24 | florian_kc | _law_: If it isn't modal you can do this.. |
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| 16:35.36 | koen | florian_kc: gpe-calendar sufferes from matchbox modal dialog bugs on the 770 |
| 16:37.55 | florian_kc | ~lart matchbox |
| 16:38.20 | koen | it's fixed in mb-wm svn |
| 16:40.19 | florian_kc | Where is mallum? Its really time for a new release.... |
| 16:40.45 | koen | maemo is using an svn version anyway |
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| 16:47.18 | florian_kc | hi dc__ |
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| 17:25.52 | bedboi | doh, don't know how to fix that missing separator |
| 17:26.32 | bedboi | it is around here: |
| 17:26.34 | bedboi | deb: dist |
| 17:26.34 | bedboi | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:30.33 | _law_ | florian_kc: you have ported gkdial? |
| 17:30.47 | _law_ | have you ever tried it with gprs? |
| 17:31.21 | _law_ | i always get the an error: "Connection timed out. Is your modem connected?" but it connects! |
| 17:32.56 | florian_kc | bedboi: maybe a space vs tab issue? |
| 17:33.26 | florian_kc | _law_: no... i don't have any gprs equipment, but from what i heared this used to work. |
| 17:34.00 | florian_kc | _law_: It might be a pppd issue... |
| 17:40.35 | _law_ | florian_kc: i am also not able to select an default account, and system tray option also doesnt work :-) |
| 17:41.42 | florian_kc | _law_: the default account sounds like a gconf issue.. |
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| 17:59.33 | bedboi | http://193.204.59.123/gpe-announce_0.13-1_arm.deb |
| 18:00.51 | bedboi | florian_kc: gpe-announce package seems to work |
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| 18:07.52 | koen | bedboi: don't forget to commit the changes ;) |
| 18:09.09 | koen | bedboi: and I think the alarm icons needs to get moved a few pixel to the left |
| 18:09.20 | koen | (in gpe-calendar) |
| 18:09.30 | bedboi | yes |
| 18:10.06 | koen | now I need to convince florian_kc to fix the week and month view in gpe-calendar-hildon |
| 18:11.28 | koen | gpe-announce complains about a missing libsoundgen |
| 18:11.47 | bedboi | ah, yep |
| 18:11.49 | bedboi | obviousl |
| 18:11.50 | bedboi | y |
| 18:12.03 | bedboi | i didn't packaged that |
| 18:12.14 | bedboi | wait |
| 18:12.34 | koen | and atd is missing (surprise, surprise) |
| 18:13.00 | bedboi | well that's not my fault :) |
| 18:13.40 | mimecar-away | koen: do you need a guide to install icons on gpe ? |
| 18:14.10 | koen | mimecar-away: yes |
| 18:14.14 | florian_kc | bedboi: cool - let me try! |
| 18:14.51 | mimecar-away | icons related to any theme, or icons by default ? |
| 18:14.56 | florian_kc | koen: :-) |
| 18:15.34 | koen | mimecar-away: I want to use the tango icons (http://tango-project.org/Tango_Icon_Gallery) |
| 18:15.49 | bedboi | florian_kc: wait you need libsoundgen |
| 18:16.10 | koen | I need away to make the tango ones override the stock icons |
| 18:16.45 | mimecar-away | I know make my icons overwrite default icons |
| 18:16.48 | florian_kc | bedboi: okay |
| 18:16.53 | mimecar-away | I hould see stock icons folder |
| 18:17.27 | mimecar-away | give 2 or 3 nights (if you haven't due day) |
| 18:17.40 | koen | no hurry |
| 18:18.04 | bedboi | florian_kc: i'll give you the binary |
| 18:18.10 | florian_kc | koen: it should be possible to theme the gtk stock icons. |
| 18:18.27 | koen | florian_kc: I know, I just don't know how :) |
| 18:18.28 | mimecar-away | florian_kc: industrial theme make it |
| 18:18.41 | bedboi | http://193.204.59.123/libsoundgen.so.1 |
| 18:18.49 | mimecar-away | default icons, I don't know if stock is the same |
| 18:19.09 | bedboi | i'm autotooling it |
| 18:19.10 | bedboi | to |
| 18:19.11 | bedboi | too |
| 18:20.52 | mimecar-away | koen: it looks every application has it's own stock icons |
| 18:22.32 | mimecar-away | let's go to search... |
| 18:25.21 | florian_kc | hrm... i shouldn#t have used the production device :-/ |
| 18:26.54 | mimecar-away | florian_kc: have you destroy the device ? |
| 18:28.30 | florian_kc | mimecar-away: no... i can't install the standalone library there. |
| 18:29.32 | mimecar-away | ooo... |
| 18:29.46 | mimecar-away | is a special library ? |
| 18:34.52 | florian_kc | mimecar-away: no... i'm not root on this one. |
| 18:35.55 | mimecar-away | can you start a chrot? or you must be root? |
| 18:37.27 | mimecar-away | koen: stock folder: /usr/share/GPE\share\gpe\pixmaps\default |
| 18:37.50 | mimecar-away | wait |
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| 18:43.30 | bedboi | i autotooled and packaged libsoundgen |
| 18:43.56 | bedboi | http://193.204.59.123/libsoundgen_0.13-1_arm.deb |
| 18:44.45 | florian_kc | bedboi: wow - fast! |
| 18:44.48 | bedboi | :) |
| 18:45.26 | mimecar-away | koen: Stock icons -> /usr/share/gpe/pixmaps/defaults |
| 18:47.33 | bedboi | florian_kc: the package is missing the library |
| 18:47.34 | bedboi | lol |
| 18:48.47 | florian_kc | bedboi: yeah.. i just noticed it is terribly small :-) maybe check the debian stuff from some library... |
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| 18:50.28 | reenoo | evening |
| 18:51.00 | florian_kc | hi reenoo |
| 18:51.42 | reenoo | hey florian_kc |
| 18:52.33 | bedboi | florian_kc: let's see |
| 18:53.21 | koen | hey reenoo |
| 18:53.29 | bedboi | ok |
| 18:53.48 | reenoo | hi koen |
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| 18:54.21 | bedboi | http://193.204.59.123/libsoundgen_0.13-1_arm.deb |
| 18:55.17 | florian_kc | the name of the package is still suspicious... |
| 18:55.19 | bedboi | it's a shared library now |
| 18:55.27 | bedboi | why? |
| 18:55.32 | florian_kc | it should be libsoundgen1... |
| 18:56.21 | bedboi | i should rename it as libsoundgen1? |
| 18:56.26 | reenoo | is that the format the installer expects? plain .deb? |
| 18:56.33 | bedboi | yep |
| 18:56.56 | reenoo | heh |
| 18:57.02 | koen | 'plain' |
| 18:57.11 | koen | the control file needs to get messed up |
| 18:57.17 | koen | like stripping depends: |
| 18:57.18 | reenoo | any particular reason why you guys package stuff *manually* again? |
| 18:57.22 | florian_kc | bedboi: more a general convention... check libschedule. |
| 18:57.26 | bedboi | ok |
| 18:57.50 | bedboi | libschedule doesn't have debian |
| 18:57.57 | bedboi | maybe you forgot to checkin |
| 18:58.09 | bedboi | i'll check libgpevtype |
| 18:58.30 | koen | be it install libsoundgen.so.0 while gpe-announce expects libsoundgen.so.1 |
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| 19:00.17 | bedboi | ok |
| 19:00.20 | bedboi | i'm changing |
| 19:00.44 | bedboi | actually i shouldn't make a dev package |
| 19:00.49 | bedboi | there's no header |
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| 19:01.49 | reenoo_ | bleh |
| 19:02.13 | reenoo_ | what was the last thing that got through before my connection was interrupted? |
| 19:02.37 | bedboi | let's see |
| 19:03.35 | bedboi | hmmm |
| 19:03.54 | bedboi | how to geneate libsoundgen.so.1 instead of libsoundgen.so.0? |
| 19:04.26 | florian_kc | ah... "magic" |
| 19:04.58 | bedboi | what? |
| 19:05.12 | florian_kc | bedboi: I don't remeber offhand, but we must have this in libgpewidget... iirc this is in Makefile.am. |
| 19:05.44 | florian_kc | yeah |
| 19:05.51 | bedboi | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:05.54 | bedboi | is that? |
| 19:06.06 | florian_kc | bedboi: This seems to do the trick for libgpewidget, yes... |
| 19:08.47 | bedboi | autotools ones too |
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| 19:08.58 | bedboi | maybe they are not gods |
| 19:08.58 | florian_kc | hey pb_ |
| 19:09.00 | bedboi | they are devils |
| 19:09.14 | pb_ | hi all |
| 19:09.17 | bedboi | yey |
| 19:09.18 | pb_ | florian_kc: good evening |
| 19:09.25 | reenoo_ | hey pb_ |
| 19:09.39 | koen | hey pb_ |
| 19:09.51 | koen | pb_: do you still have magical powers at hh.org? |
| 19:09.59 | bedboi | http://193.204.59.123/libsoundgen1_0.13-1_arm.deb |
| 19:10.07 | koen | hh.org doesn't seem to deliver mail anymore |
| 19:10.24 | pb_ | ah, you would need france or nelson for that |
| 19:10.52 | pb_ | I don't think I ever had enough powers to do anything with the mail system, and I believe the few powers that I did have are no longer in effect |
| 19:11.55 | koen | I see |
| 19:12.19 | koen | this is one of the sistuations where mailing admin@ doesn't work |
| 19:12.48 | florian_kc | okay... i'll drive (!) home now, i'll play with libsoundgen and gpe-announce on the other device then there. |
| 19:13.01 | florian_kc | koen: heh |
| 19:13.19 | pb_ | florian_kc: oh, heh, you have a new vehicle? |
| 19:13.46 | florian_kc | pb_: yeah finally... |
| 19:13.53 | pb_ | very good |
| 19:14.17 | pb_ | what did you buy, in the end? |
| 19:15.06 | florian_kc | I hope so... need to do some tests :-) |
| 19:15.50 | florian_kc | A newer Mazda 626... red again... somewhat boring :-) |
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| 19:15.57 | pb_ | hehe |
| 19:16.35 | pb_ | ah well, at least there should be no surprises for you in that case. |
| 19:17.06 | florian_kc | well... two generations of development... it isn't the same than before. |
| 19:17.24 | pb_ | ah, right, I see |
| 19:19.00 | bedboi | koen: did you tired new package? |
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| 19:20.18 | koen | bedboi: yes, gpe-announce works from the terminal] |
| 19:20.25 | koen | the dismiss button does not work |
| 19:20.56 | bedboi | hmm that's strange |
| 19:21.49 | bedboi | you don't need to pull the battery |
| 19:21.54 | bedboi | just reset |
| 19:24.17 | bedboi | well going now |
| 19:24.32 | bedboi | i'll check the issue tomorrow |
| 19:24.33 | bedboi | bye |
| 19:46.57 | france | hi |
| 19:47.02 | france | pb_: hi |
| 19:47.12 | france | koen: hi |
| 19:47.16 | philippe | evening everybody |
| 19:47.19 | france | koen: what is wrong with e-mail> |
| 19:47.22 | france | koen: what is wrong with e-mail? |
| 19:47.33 | koen | france run 'mailq' |
| 19:47.44 | koen | and see ~2.8MB scrolling by |
| 19:48.14 | koen | france: it's filled with (Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=dominion.kabel.utwente.nl type=MX: Host not found, try again) |
| 19:48.34 | koen | for virtually any mail host |
| 19:49.13 | france | koen: I see |
| 19:53.24 | france | and dig -t mx kabel.utwente.nl works |
| 19:53.44 | pb_ | hi france |
| 19:53.50 | france | pb_: hi |
| 19:54.12 | pb_ | france: you said that already :-) |
| 19:55.07 | france | pb_: sorry, distracted on the mail mystery. |
| 19:56.36 | ||cw | france: dig -t MX dominion.kabel.utwente.nl |
| 19:57.19 | france | ; <<>> DiG 9.3.0 <<>> -t MX dominion.kabel.utwente.nl |
| 19:57.19 | france | ;; global options: printcmd |
| 19:57.19 | france | ;; Got answer: |
| 19:57.19 | france | ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 55717 |
| 19:57.19 | france | ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 3 |
| 19:57.20 | france | ;; QUESTION SECTION: |
| 19:57.22 | france | ;dominion.kabel.utwente.nl. IN MX |
| 19:57.24 | france | ;; ANSWER SECTION: |
| 19:57.26 | france | dominion.kabel.utwente.nl. 86400 IN MX 100 mx.utwente.nl. |
| 19:57.28 | france | ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: |
| 19:57.30 | france | kabel.utwente.nl. 28922 IN NS ns1.utwente.nl. |
| 19:57.32 | france | kabel.utwente.nl. 28922 IN NS ns2.utwente.nl. |
| 19:57.34 | france | kabel.utwente.nl. 28922 IN NS ns3.utwente.nl. |
| 19:57.36 | france | ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: |
| 19:57.38 | france | ns1.utwente.nl. 9778 IN A 130.89.1.2 |
| 19:57.40 | france | ns2.utwente.nl. 9778 IN A 130.89.1.3 |
| 19:57.42 | france | ns3.utwente.nl. 9778 IN A 192.87.17.19 |
| 19:57.44 | france | ;; Query time: 105 msec |
| 19:57.46 | france | ;; SERVER: 128.31.0.21#53(128.31.0.21) |
| 19:57.50 | france | ;; WHEN: Wed Oct 26 16:03:00 2005 |
| 19:57.52 | france | ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 164 |
| 19:59.58 | koen | france: two tests received |
| 20:00.18 | france | koen: restarting postfix did the trick, I do not know why, but it did. |
| 20:00.21 | ||cw | that's from the server? |
| 20:00.29 | ||cw | oh, it caches |
| 20:00.32 | france | koen: thanks for letting me know there was an issue. |
| 20:00.58 | france | apparently it does. |
| 20:01.15 | koen | the end of a quiet email day.... |
| 20:01.47 | france | koen: in my infiinate and copious spare time, a few weeks from now, I have another spam solutoin to test |
| 20:01.52 | france | koen: it should help some. |
| 20:03.01 | ||cw | france: http://bluebox.wilsonmfg.com:88/ |
| 20:03.25 | ||cw | mailscanner+clamav+rbl+spamassisn |
| 20:04.37 | france | ||cw: very nice |
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| 20:27.17 | lamikr | Hi |
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| 20:29.23 | france | somebody should send an e-mail from a non-hh.org account to koen@handhelds.org and see if it gets there. |
| 20:33.35 | lamikr | now when we talk about emails. I have send one email now twice to kernel-discuss@handhelds.org and at least I did not receive the email by myself from the list. (Actually I just noticed that Mathew still answered for me, so the email must have came to the list) |
| 20:35.04 | france | some lists are setup not to send you your own mail |
| 20:35.05 | JAV | lamikr: try changing mail-list options |
| 20:35.12 | france | :-D |
| 20:36.17 | lamikr | Need to check those :-) I can however see my mails from the other handheld lists. |
| 20:38.41 | france | also I just restarted the mailserver about 10 minuts ago |
| 20:39.09 | france | ti may take some time for things in the queue to propagate |
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| 20:43.18 | florian | re |
| 20:43.51 | koen | hey florian |
| 20:51.03 | lamikr | From where I could find out what keycodes I should assign to the buttons like "messaging" and "calendar" to get them working with the gpe. I tried to use values 67 - 70, but gpe's keyboard config program failed to recognize those. |
| 20:52.18 | florian | ah nasty... i can imagine why. these are mapped to these strange X keycodes. |
| 20:53.04 | lamikr | I tried to map them to same that I saw in the h2200 sources... |
| 20:54.34 | florian | lamikr: you can use xev to check which events they generate.. |
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| 20:54.37 | mimecar | re |
| 20:56.18 | lamikr | florian: Ok, will those be different than the one I got when I read the /dev/input/event1 directly by using sample program from http://oskfordummies.hp.infoseek.co.jp/downloads/keypad.c. That reported correctly the values 67-70 that I assigned in the driver. |
| 20:58.11 | pb_ | yes, they probably will |
| 20:58.48 | mreimer | lamikr: check out /etc/X11/Xinit.d/12keymap; you'll want to do something similar |
| 20:58.58 | mreimer | lamikr: with an xmodmap |
| 20:59.04 | lamikr | Ok, I need to make another boot attempt and try. (X crashes for us when ipag_watchdoc launches apm --suspend) |
| 21:02.04 | lamikr | mreimer: I will check. I saw your response from the joypad key problem... I will try to make somekind of filtering event filter to driver so that when that kind of serie of 3 events appears, only one will be sent... Just started playing so not sure yet whether will work. |
| 21:02.20 | mreimer | lamikr: great, I hope you figure something out |
| 21:03.10 | koen | lamikr: did you see http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Gomunicator ? |
| 21:03.12 | lamikr | mreimer: I will send a note if I succeed. |
| 21:05.21 | lamikr | koen: Oh yes, there has been talk about this... I was planning to work with that to get it linked to our /dev/ttyS0 that we can use for controlling gsm. We had some discussion from the common interface with cp15 two weeks ago. But then I started to work with kernel and things slipped... |
| 21:08.20 | lamikr | We have still one annoying problem with the gsm. We can make calls with AT commands, but the work for getting headphone and speaker on is still going on... We have now OSS spaced sound driver and I can listen waws with headphone, so things are progressing. |
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| 21:21.35 | mimecar | is there some guide to use translated version of gpe ? |
| 21:29.37 | florian | mimecar: The last stable familiar release suffers from a bug which breaks translations. |
| 21:29.57 | mimecar | I don't use stable version |
| 21:30.10 | florian | mimecar: If you use an unstable image it might work - if you have enough of memory.. |
| 21:30.23 | mimecar | I have 300 MB free |
| 21:30.41 | mimecar | I have install gpe-today-locale-es |
| 21:30.54 | reenoo_ | RAM, not disk/flash space |
| 21:30.55 | mimecar | then ipkg download necesary dependences |
| 21:31.03 | mimecar | ok |
| 21:31.07 | mimecar | 64 MB of ram |
| 21:31.44 | florian | This usually isn't enough... that stupid localegen app tries to allocate more :-/ |
| 21:32.24 | mimecar | ok |
| 21:33.09 | florian | We need to fix this before the next familiar release. |
| 21:33.43 | mimecar | i18n is important |
| 21:33.48 | florian | right |
| 21:34.11 | mimecar | not all users must know english |
| 21:34.29 | reenoo_ | we know |
| 21:34.45 | mimecar | is there some method to help ? |
| 21:36.04 | reenoo_ | other than fixing localegen or switching back to an older version of it (probably requires some infrastructure changes in OE), probably not |
| 21:36.16 | mimecar | :( |
| 21:36.38 | florian | mimecar: There is an open bug in oe bugzilla about this, there is a proposed solution to switch to an older locale format... someone needs to check if this works properly. |
| 21:37.16 | mimecar | install an older version ? |
| 21:37.38 | florian | reenoo_: Debian used to have an open bug about that issue too, but the maintainer doesn't seem to see the need to fix this :-( |
| 21:37.57 | lamikr | talking from the i18n reminds me from the another issue, Timezones: Timezone list look strange in the Time and Date setup. Would it be possible to get there in a way like "Europe/Helsinki", "Stockholm/Sweden" like most of the programs show. Or alternatively in a way like "GMT", GMT+1, GMT+2, ... |
| 21:38.01 | florian | mimecar: that's not that easy... it is part of glibc. |
| 21:38.04 | mimecar | is he an english maintaner? |
| 21:38.53 | florian | lamikr: yeah... that tool needs some improvement, but i didn't manage to work on this so far. |
| 21:39.08 | mimecar | another theme |
| 21:39.09 | reenoo_ | mimecar: he probably has more than 64MB of RAM regardless of his native tongue |
| 21:39.17 | mimecar | ok reenoo_ |
| 21:39.40 | mimecar | i get this error on gnumeric: An error ocurred while loading or saving congiuration..... |
| 21:39.44 | lamikr | If it is simply a "updating some config list" I could try to do something once I get the kernel patches submitted. (Will go to weekend) |
| 21:39.45 | florian | reenoo_: maybe he has less.. but swap :-/ |
| 21:40.08 | reenoo_ | florian: or that yeah |
| 21:40.19 | mimecar | faile to activate configuration server: the service org.gnome.gcong was not found on entry list |
| 21:40.57 | mimecar | it fails on gnumeric and evince |
| 21:40.59 | florian | hrm... that looks like a gconf-dbus issue |
| 21:41.13 | mimecar | it looks I can use the program, but any option launch that error |
| 21:42.33 | koen | gconf-dbus isn't working too well |
| 21:42.42 | koen | haven't tracked down the cause yet |
| 21:42.57 | mimecar | don't worry |
| 21:43.41 | mimecar | opie and gpe have different application structure ? |
| 21:44.11 | koen | opie uses qt/e for i18n if that's what you mean |
| 21:44.21 | mimecar | yes |
| 21:44.45 | mimecar | I don't know connection between program and translate files |
| 21:46.49 | florian | koen: I just released gpe-su 0.19 to fix this error messages. |
| 21:49.11 | koen | ah, cool |
| 21:49.44 | mimecar | florian: what was the bug ? |
| 21:51.14 | florian | mimecar: it assumes that all messages are error messages filtering out known warnings. This urxvt warning was missing... |
| 21:51.34 | mimecar | ok |
| 21:52.00 | mimecar | gpe hackers are doing a very good work |
| 21:53.00 | mimecar | first, I started with opie |
| 21:53.13 | mimecar | but gpe improvements make me go to the "dark side" |
| 21:53.44 | florian | heh |
| 21:53.45 | florian | :-) |
| 21:54.10 | florian | mimecar: wrong attitude.. this here is the bright side ;-) |
| 21:54.33 | mimecar | :P |
| 21:54.40 | mimecar | this is the foot side |
| 21:55.01 | mimecar | sylpheed works :) |
| 21:55.11 | florian | heh |
| 21:55.25 | mimecar | on SL-5500 |
| 21:55.40 | mimecar | font is bigger |
| 21:55.47 | pb_ | I don't think that switching to an old localegen would need any significant infrastructure changes. You'd just need to extract the sources from an older glibc and package them separately. |
| 21:57.32 | mimecar | night all |
| 21:58.04 | mimecar | bes is calling me |
| 21:58.04 | mimecar | s /bes/bed |
| 21:58.10 | mimecar | good night |
| 22:00.53 | florian | pb_: hmm that sounds pretty easy... |
| 22:06.07 | koen | 'night all |
| 22:14.57 | chipi | 'night |
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| 22:42.13 | florian | good night |
| 22:42.27 | lamikr | night |
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| 23:22.15 | danil | does anyone know why linphone does not compile in org.openembedded.oz354fam083 OE feed? It gives the following error: misc.c:163: error: `EFAULT' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 23:23.37 | danil | I tried to include errno.h where EFAULT is defined (amoung others), but with no luck. |
| 23:24.31 | danil | also tried #include <asm/errno.h> and <sys/errno.h> - no result, the same error. |
| 23:46.24 | reenoo_ | danil: try #oe or file a bug at bugs.openembedded.org |
| 23:46.28 | reenoo_ | 'night all |
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