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| 00:48.35 | _orangey | hey all! |
| 00:50.13 | _orangey | apparently I should have better luck with gpe, but it sticks on the penguin when I try.. |
| 02:08.39 | orangey | wooooo! |
| 02:08.55 | orangey | got gpe working finally! |
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| 02:39.22 | orangey | lucasvo: I don't suppose I can copy that stuff on my CF card and just point to that as the source, eh? |
| 03:28.51 | lucasvo | orangey: dpkg --install file.ipk |
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| 03:43.46 | orangey | lucasvo, thank you : ) |
| 04:28.24 | orangey | hey dudes.. How do I make opie icons bigger? |
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| 07:33.37 | bedboi | hi all |
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| 08:08.35 | bedboi | hi florian_kc |
| 08:08.39 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 08:10.09 | florian_kc | ibot: change 13,80 EUR to GBP |
| 08:10.45 | florian_kc | ibot: change 13.8 EUR to GBP |
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| 08:14.01 | florian_kc | koen: good morning |
| 08:14.09 | koen | hey florian_kc |
| 08:14.22 | koen | thanks for looking into the categories bug |
| 08:14.54 | florian_kc | Yeah.. another one for the history books ;-) |
| 08:19.31 | koen | do we have a way of launching gpe-calender focussed on a single appointment? |
| 08:20.18 | koen | that way we could launch gpe-calendar via gpe-today |
| 08:20.25 | florian_kc | Not yet iirc... but that might be useful for linking it with gpe-today. |
| 08:32.09 | koen | it's nice if 'upstream' is on the same network |
| 08:32.16 | koen | ~praise the abimirror |
| 08:32.20 | ibot | All hail the abimirror! |
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| 08:42.34 | koen | NOTE: package abiword-2.4.1: completed |
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| 08:42.59 | florian_kc | koen: good! |
| 08:43.27 | florian_kc | koen: lat time i tested it i had trouble because of missing glade files for all sorts of dialogs. |
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| 09:06.21 | bedboi | koen: yes... i would like that too |
| 09:06.47 | bedboi | koen: also something like that for todo |
| 09:06.58 | bedboi | i would like to show todo items in calendar too |
| 09:11.31 | koen | NOTE: package gnumeric-1.5.90: completed |
| 09:19.27 | florian_kc | would be another good task for dbus :-) |
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| 09:54.18 | florian_kc | koen: That dpi patch for gpe-session-scripts... does this work properly? |
| 09:54.55 | koen | it did on my h5550 |
| 09:55.17 | florian_kc | ah okay... then let me check that in. |
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| 10:00.07 | florian_kc | koen: many thanks it's in. |
| 10:01.53 | florian_kc | koen: I released xserver-common 1.2. |
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| 10:56.39 | koen | interesting.... |
| 10:57.18 | koen | florian_kc: do you have any high-dpi handhelds available? |
| 11:01.13 | koen | florian_kc: http://handhelds.org/scap/land.651.png |
| 11:01.25 | koen | (hx4700 with xserver-common 1.2) |
| 11:08.59 | bedboi | florian_kc: what CPU has hx4700 ? |
| 11:09.11 | koen | pxa270, 624MHz |
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| 11:09.27 | florian_kc | koen: I have a 770 here, but i'm not sure if i manage to to check it today. |
| 11:09.40 | florian_kc | koen: but that looks like a bug in xkbd .-( |
| 11:09.44 | koen | the default fonts are HUGE |
| 11:10.40 | florian_kc | koen: do you have a screenshot for me? |
| 11:11.16 | florian_kc | koen: basically it looks not too bad, but it doesn't seem to be able to scale the pixmaps. |
| 11:11.48 | bedboi | koen: wow 624Mhz! |
| 11:12.46 | koen | florian_kc: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.1529.png |
| 11:14.15 | koen | florian_kc: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.1614.png |
| 11:15.29 | florian_kc | koen: looks like the scaling is a little bit strange. on the desktop they are a little bit large, but in the gtk apps the scaling is correct imho. |
| 11:16.09 | florian_kc | they seem to take up more or less the same space on my 100dpi display. |
| 11:19.12 | koen | it looks huge on the first impression |
| 11:21.31 | florian_kc | of course... it physical size is expected to be tha same on any display. we can make it smaller on high resolution displays, but we maybe want/need some mechanism to set up optimized defaults. |
| 11:23.41 | florian_kc | the major problem is the desktop because the font is too small to make the text fit below the 48x48 icons. |
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| 11:55.37 | florian_kc | RP: I just noticed you added new matchbox svn stuff to oe... is there some release on the horizon? |
| 11:56.29 | RP | florian_kc: I was just cleaning some things up. I know nothing about releases... |
| 11:56.52 | koen | soon(TM) |
| 11:57.21 | florian_kc | RP: Okay... if you have the chance to poke mallum about it... :-) |
| 11:58.03 | florian_kc | :-) |
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| 12:51.28 | Skyhusker | hi |
| 12:51.57 | koen | hey Skyhusker |
| 12:52.02 | Skyhusker | hey koen |
| 12:58.55 | Skyhusker | florian_kc: i have the build system almost rewritten |
| 12:59.07 | Skyhusker | i'm porting the code to libgps right now |
| 13:00.24 | koen | Skyhusker: cool! |
| 13:00.53 | Skyhusker | i hope i can do it before 0.8.3 :) |
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| 13:14.05 | koen | florian_kc: rxvt has it own .desktop now: http://handhelds.org/hypermail/oe-commits/19/1959.html |
| 13:29.26 | florian_kc | re |
| 13:29.50 | florian_kc | Skyhusker: yay! |
| 13:30.00 | florian_kc | koen: cool |
| 13:30.12 | Skyhusker | florian_kc: do you have a gps? |
| 13:30.13 | koen | florian_kc: not cool |
| 13:30.19 | koen | florian_kc: see my mail to oe@ |
| 13:36.51 | florian_kc | Skyhusker: yes... i have to dig a little bit, but i have one. |
| 13:37.49 | Skyhusker | florian_kc: i think gps support may not work, it can't be too easy! |
| 13:38.15 | florian_kc | Skyhusker: okay :-) /me digs |
| 13:38.43 | Skyhusker | |
| 13:38.46 | Skyhusker | :-? |
| 13:39.52 | florian_kc | Skyhusker: for the gps receiver to test it... |
| 13:39.53 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 13:42.18 | Skyhusker | i understood, i got stranged for the undefined reference :) |
| 13:47.42 | florian_kc | koen: hmmmm yes, that's true... |
| 13:48.43 | koen | florian_kc: but it's already solved :) |
| 13:52.25 | florian_kc | koen: good :-) |
| 13:54.21 | Skyhusker | btw, does anyone know how to disable c++ and fortran tests in configure? i've defined AC_LANG(C) but it goes on checking for the three languages |
| 13:54.39 | Skyhusker | (C, C++ and Fortran) |
| 13:57.33 | koen | heh |
| 13:57.55 | koen | we had a discussion about that earlier |
| 13:58.15 | koen | iirc the outcome was 'autotools suck, but we need them anyway' |
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| 14:02.45 | Skyhusker | i ask because autotools are linking prismstumbler to libstdc++ |
| 14:02.53 | Skyhusker | which adds an unneeded dependency |
| 14:03.50 | Skyhusker | hum, problem solved |
| 14:04.06 | Skyhusker | remove AC_PROG_LIBTOOL from configure.ac and libtoolize --copy --force from autogen.sh |
| 14:04.18 | florian_kc | okay... i we can take a look at the build stuff for GtkWebcore which suffered from the same effect. |
| 14:04.35 | florian_kc | even better :-) |
| 14:04.42 | Skyhusker | one day i'll understand autotools XD |
| 14:04.53 | Skyhusker | florian_kc: seems it's solved |
| 14:05.33 | Skyhusker | now the problem is... what's the best way to define PREFIX? |
| 14:05.39 | Skyhusker | AC_SUBST(PREFIX, $prefix)? |
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| 14:06.21 | Skyhusker | hey jsmanrique |
| 14:07.40 | florian_kc | hmm... that might work |
| 14:08.35 | jsmanrique | hi |
| 14:08.52 | jsmanrique | I've seen that new packages have appeared to be translated |
| 14:09.12 | Skyhusker | works, but it isn't the prettier solution (IMHO) |
| 14:09.17 | jsmanrique | I am "localizing" gpe-contacts, filemanager a other.. |
| 14:10.28 | florian_kc | jsmanrique: yes... i submitted a pile of them. Only the libtododb package seems to be broken. |
| 14:11.31 | florian_kc | And it might be possible that the filemenager lacks marking of some translatable strings. |
| 14:13.32 | Skyhusker | florian_kc: according to autoconf docs, the preferred solution is -DPREFIX="$(prefix) in Makefile.am |
| 14:14.20 | jsmanrique | Skyhusker: hey man |
| 14:18.01 | florian_kc | Skyhusker: okay... i guess they know what is the best to do with their tools ;-) |
| 14:18.38 | Skyhusker | florian_kc: you shoudn't be so sure ;) |
| 14:19.06 | florian_kc | Skyhusker: :-) |
| 14:19.55 | Skyhusker | florian_kc: seems this is working |
| 14:20.03 | Skyhusker | i'll send you the tarball in a few minutes |
| 14:20.16 | Skyhusker | i'd removed libpcap, gpsd and wlanctl |
| 14:20.17 | florian_kc | Skyhusker: cool! |
| 14:20.29 | Skyhusker | added dbus and libgps support |
| 14:20.34 | Skyhusker | and rewrote the build system |
| 14:22.41 | Skyhusker | ouch, i haven't added the targets for the icons and the data |
| 14:22.45 | Skyhusker | give me 10 minutes ;) |
| 14:22.47 | jsmanrique | Skyhusker: working on? |
| 14:22.54 | Skyhusker | jsmanrique: prismstumbler |
| 14:23.31 | florian_kc | Skyhusker: yay... thats comprehensive... much more than what i'd have expected! |
| 14:23.47 | koen | when that's finished we'll need to bribe someone to add a 'scan for networks' button in gpe-conf network ;) |
| 14:24.07 | florian_kc | koen: the bb for the next prismstumbler release will be shorter ;-) |
| 14:24.30 | florian_kc | koen: That should be pretty easy then... |
| 14:25.44 | jsmanrique | Skyhusker: of courses, prismstumbler :) |
| 14:25.55 | Skyhusker | fiam@ixnay ~/src/hh/apps/prismstumbler.b $ ldd src/daemon/prismstumbler |grep c++ |
| 14:25.57 | Skyhusker | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:26.10 | Skyhusker | that doesn't seem a good thing (tm) |
| 14:27.19 | florian_kc | ~lart autotools |
| 14:37.06 | jsmanrique | what's a PC-card in filemanager? |
| 14:37.10 | jsmanrique | compact-flash? |
| 14:37.43 | jsmanrique | there is already CF-Card |
| 14:38.41 | florian_kc | jsmanrique: no... thats common for cardbus. |
| 14:39.56 | jsmanrique | florian_kc: ok |
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| 14:46.38 | florian_kc | hello shiyee |
| 14:50.01 | shiyee | hi florian_kc |
| 14:52.51 | jsmanrique | what's 'unable to fork' in gpe-package? |
| 14:55.41 | lardman|work | fork the process? |
| 14:57.28 | florian_kc | right |
| 15:03.24 | Skyhusker | florian_kc: http://ignition.rm-fr.net/~fiam/prismstumbler.tar.bz2 |
| 15:03.48 | Skyhusker | jsmanrique: 'incapaz de tenedor' :) |
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| 15:09.05 | jsmanrique | Skyhusker: :-) |
| 15:11.01 | _orangey | koen: I tried using your feed yesterday to update my hx4700.. After messing up the busybox thing, I made the link manually and added busybox myself.. However, the new problem is that when I kept going with an ipkg upgrade, it got to a point where it said "restarting opie", and then froze my opie.. when I restarted the handheld, the touchscreen no longer worked.. |
| 15:11.12 | _orangey | koen: any idea what might be up? |
| 15:21.02 | jsmanrique | gpe-timesheet.. journal? what's that? |
| 15:21.25 | florian_kc | Skyhusker: cool! |
| 15:21.36 | jsmanrique | diary? |
| 15:21.48 | jsmanrique | is it like a diary? |
| 15:23.09 | florian_kc | Skyhusker: 404 |
| 15:23.40 | jsmanrique | koen: those hx4700 screenshots look great |
| 15:23.50 | Skyhusker | florian_kc: sorry, try now |
| 15:23.53 | florian_kc | jsmanrique: something like this... |
| 15:24.10 | jsmanrique | ok |
| 15:24.28 | _orangey | js: where are they? |
| 15:25.07 | _orangey | any of you guys happen to be using koen's feed for an hx4700? |
| 15:25.40 | XorA | _orangey: you are asking opie questions in a gpe channel |
| 15:27.16 | _orangey | XorA: perhaps. The question has more to do with the feeds, which may have problems. |
| 15:28.02 | _orangey | it did get stuch on opie packages, but I get the sense that one of the non-opie packages was messing up if the touchscreen messed up.. |
| 15:28.33 | XorA | _orangey: the joy on unstable feeds :-) |
| 15:29.10 | _orangey | heheh : ) |
| 15:29.18 | _orangey | XorA: is there such a thing as a stable feed?? |
| 15:29.43 | XorA | _orangey: not in my world |
| 15:29.45 | _orangey | I always tell myself I'll never use beta again.. but I can't! It's like I'm addicted! |
| 15:29.55 | XorA | _orangey: I spend half my life fixing my own screwups on Z |
| 15:30.34 | _orangey | in any case, the next question would be: how do I productively report the bug.. and the one after that is: how do I backup so when I do a bad package install I don't lose everything? |
| 15:30.35 | _orangey | OH! |
| 15:30.41 | _orangey | I have an idea! I'll put ssh on there! |
| 15:30.56 | XorA | _orangey: I have no ipaq, so cant help you with that one |
| 15:31.46 | _orangey | what kind of Z? |
| 15:32.40 | XorA | _orangey: C860 |
| 15:38.51 | florian_kc | jsmanrique: good work :-) |
| 15:40.53 | _orangey | where are those screenshots? |
| 15:43.12 | _orangey | woooo!!! |
| 15:43.19 | _orangey | ssh'ing in is the ticket! |
| 15:50.25 | jsmanrique | florian_kc: good work? |
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| 15:54.25 | florian_kc | jsmanrique: I just found some mails about updated translations in my inbox :-) |
| 15:54.34 | jsmanrique | florian_kc: ah, yes.. everyone has been translated, but gpe-conf (too big and hard for me) |
| 15:56.00 | florian_kc | jsmanrique: okay... i'll try to make this easier and add more hints for translators when i work on gpe-conf. |
| 15:56.19 | jsmanrique | florian_kc: ok, thanks |
| 15:58.25 | jsmanrique | florian_kc: main problem for me there is that I don't know how to say some of the terms in Spanish.. even if there is a Spanish word for them :-) |
| 15:58.30 | jsmanrique | florian_kc: and I don't like to make a half work |
| 15:58.30 | jsmanrique | florian_kc: do it or don't do it, but don't try |
| 15:58.41 | florian_kc | jsmanrique: hey... it is much easier for you to find a Spanish word than for me ;-) |
| 15:59.08 | jsmanrique | florian_kc: sure :D |
| 16:05.13 | jsmanrique | see you later ;) |
| 16:06.20 | _orangey | hmm.. what does this mean: task-bootstrap: unsatisfied recommendation for kernel-module-uinput-2.6 |
| 16:22.00 | Skyhusker | florian_kc: ping |
| 16:23.09 | florian_kc | Skyhusker: pong |
| 16:23.36 | Skyhusker | florian_kc: is led supposed to be used in another devices than h5550? |
| 16:23.49 | Skyhusker | (in prismstumbler) |
| 16:25.09 | lardman|work | does led control the leds? |
| 16:25.48 | Skyhusker | yep |
| 16:26.04 | Skyhusker | i ask because the wireless driver itself makes the orange led blink |
| 16:26.23 | lardman|work | you have an h5550? |
| 16:26.42 | Skyhusker | yes |
| 16:27.14 | lardman|work | chances are it's just for that then - much like bl was, looks like led will be the next target for multi-platform goodness then |
| 16:28.36 | florian_kc | Skyhusker: yes... on systems with pcmcia/cf card this is useful, but imho we don't have a generic interface to these leds (e.g. on zaurus and so on...) |
| 16:28.53 | florian_kc | That would be a task for the evice control framework... |
| 16:29.26 | florian_kc | I once wrote this for the h38xx iPaq devices. |
| 16:31.18 | Skyhusker | ok :) |
| 16:31.27 | Skyhusker | btw, did you have time to look at prismstumbler.tar.bz2? |
| 16:34.14 | _orangey | what browsers do y'all use? |
| 16:34.23 | koen|food | gpe-mini-browser |
| 16:34.41 | koen | florian_kc: we should pester phillipe to do a release |
| 16:35.52 | florian_kc | Skyhusker: not yet - but i'm on it :-) |
| 16:36.22 | Skyhusker | i'm testing the dbus code, and it seems to not work :-/ |
| 16:36.54 | florian_kc | koen: that might be a good idea |
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| 16:40.11 | florian_kc | Skyhusker: minor issue: it should stop with an error if libgps isn't detected. |
| 16:40.48 | Skyhusker | florian_kc: right, i missed it |
| 16:42.14 | florian_kc | hrm... no libgps in debian? tsts |
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| 16:46.25 | florian_kc | hello jg |
| 16:46.49 | jg | florian_kc: hi. |
| 16:51.05 | koen | http://handhelds.org/scap/land.24282.png |
| 16:51.16 | koen | for the ultra-mobile EE student |
| 16:52.42 | lardman|work | Just can't resist a snide remark: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15422&view=findpost&p=98851 |
| 16:52.53 | florian_kc | koen: yay! |
| 16:52.54 | lardman|work | I have resisted replying though |
| 16:53.14 | Skyhusker | brb |
| 16:53.31 | _law_ | koen: http://handhelds.org/scap/land.24282.png <-- cool :-) |
| 16:53.33 | koen | lardman|work: let them use stone age software |
| 16:54.05 | lardman|work | koen: yes, it just annoys me when people start saying things which aren't particularly true (and certainly don't need to be said) |
| 16:54.41 | koen | just ignore them |
| 16:54.46 | koen | (did I just say that?) |
| 16:55.01 | lardman|work | (I'm impressed ;) ) |
| 16:55.24 | florian_kc | koen: Is Gschem usable on the hx4700? |
| 16:55.50 | koen | florian_kc: without matchbox, yes |
| 16:56.04 | koen | matchbox makes the 'add component' dialog fullscreen |
| 16:56.34 | koen | so you have to switch back to the main window |
| 16:56.45 | koen | but it's pretty fast |
| 16:57.03 | lardman|work | night all |
| 16:57.08 | florian_kc | lardman|work: good night |
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| 17:01.14 | reenoo | evening |
| 17:02.38 | koen | hey reenoo |
| 17:02.56 | reenoo | hi koen |
| 17:03.31 | florian_kc | hi reenoo |
| 17:03.49 | reenoo | hey florian_kc |
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| 17:23.47 | zecke | hey |
| 17:39.08 | florian_kc | bbl |
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| 17:45.54 | Skyhusker | hi |
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| 18:23.27 | Skyhusker | koen|tv: which dbus version did you say will be in familiar 0.8.3? 0.23? |
| 18:27.47 | koen|tv | 0.23.4 |
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| 18:32.34 | _orangey | aaaahhhhhh! |
| 18:32.56 | _orangey | koen|tv: I lost the touchscreen after I did an ipkg upgrade from your feed.. any idea why? |
| 18:33.14 | koen|tv | no idea |
| 18:33.31 | koen|tv | don't do 'ipkg upgrade' ;) |
| 18:33.36 | _orangey | not a hint? |
| 18:33.39 | _orangey | oh.. what should I do? |
| 18:33.47 | _orangey | individual packs? |
| 18:34.07 | koen|tv | yes |
| 18:34.39 | _orangey | and if I find the individual pack responsible? |
| 18:38.09 | koen|tv | fix it :) |
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| 18:39.13 | mimecar | evening |
| 18:40.26 | mimecar | is there some "money log" for gpe ? |
| 18:41.34 | mimecar | one expense tracker |
| 18:43.52 | _orangey | koen|tv: and email you : ) |
| 18:49.45 | _law_ | my SL5000 wont boot i only see the gpe- bootlogo |
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| 18:52.01 | _law_ | any ideas what i can do? |
| 18:52.57 | _law_ | is there any way to see the console output? |
| 18:54.56 | mimecar | _law_: have you update your zaurus with the latest patches ? |
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| 18:55.55 | _law_ | my rom is from gpe-image-collie-20051010065435.rootfs.jffs2 |
| 18:56.06 | _law_ | Oct 10 19:38 |
| 18:56.24 | _law_ | build it one hour ago |
| 18:57.30 | mimecar | you have build your own rom, aren't you ? |
| 18:57.48 | mimecar | I don't know |
| 18:58.12 | mimecar | on my zaurus, gpe logo doesn't appears at begin |
| 18:58.41 | mimecar | i must wait some time before gpe-dm run (it looks zaurus is halted if I don't wait) |
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| 18:59.48 | mimecar | do you wait some time with gpe init process ? |
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| 19:01.39 | _law_ | mimecar: i wait for over 15mins now :-:-) |
| 19:01.52 | mimecar | ok |
| 19:02.01 | mimecar | there's some problem ;) |
| 19:02.19 | _law_ | i try to reflash him again |
| 19:03.23 | mimecar | do you check the md5? |
| 19:03.36 | mimecar | your CF card can not sotre image files correctly |
| 19:05.30 | mimecar | _law_: I have gpe version of OZ 3.5.3 |
| 19:05.40 | mimecar | and I have upgrade from that base system |
| 19:13.17 | mimecar | bye |
| 19:18.03 | _orangey | koen|tv: what do I need to get those buttons working? I installed xserver-common, but that didn't do it.. |
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| 19:21.43 | pb_ | florian: good evening |
| 19:21.58 | florian | re |
| 19:22.24 | florian | pb_: hi! |
| 19:23.14 | Skyhusker | florian: dbus code is working, for both versions < 0.30 and >= 0.30 :) |
| 19:24.38 | florian | Skyhusker: cool - can you read my thoughts?! The last thing i found out is that dbus on my workstation at kc has the wrong version :-) |
| 19:26.11 | Skyhusker | florian: http://ignition.rm-fr.net/~fiam/prismstumbler-2.tar.bz2 |
| 19:26.48 | florian | hrm.. i forgot the gps receiver at kc :-/ |
| 19:27.46 | _law_ | is there any why to disable gpe-bootsplash at boottime? |
| 19:30.49 | Skyhusker | florian: wait, i've just fixed --enable-static-libgps, i'm replacing the tarball |
| 19:32.09 | Skyhusker | florian: replaced :) |
| 19:33.20 | florian | rock |
| 19:33.38 | Skyhusker | hum, no |
| 19:33.43 | florian | _law_: not that i'm aware of, why? |
| 19:33.44 | Skyhusker | i haven't fixed it, it fails in oe XD |
| 19:34.44 | _law_ | florian: my SL-5000D only shows gpe-bootsplash for over 20 mins now |
| 19:38.48 | Skyhusker | florian: finally fixed :) |
| 19:39.13 | florian | _law_: that's nasty... would there be output on framebuffer console? on the ipaqs there isn't any usually... |
| 19:39.25 | florian | Skyhusker: great! |
| 19:40.14 | _law_ | florian: florian how can i switch? |
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| 19:42.33 | florian | _law_: On the ipaq you can pass parameters to the kernel to set a serial console or to use the framebuffer console. |
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| 20:06.17 | fng_sma | hello! |
| 20:10.46 | pb_ | hi fng_sma |
| 20:11.05 | fng_sma | I got mail from google two days ago. :-) thx! |
| 20:12.00 | florian | hi fng_sma |
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| 20:12.14 | Skyhusker | florian: http://ignition.rm-fr.net/~fiam/prismstumbler-3tar.bz2 |
| 20:12.34 | fng_sma | hi pb_ (I almost forgot), hi florian |
| 20:12.44 | florian | Skyhusker: many thanks! |
| 20:12.45 | Skyhusker | florian: dbus code wasn't working as expected with 0.23.4, just fixed it |
| 20:12.50 | Skyhusker | florian: np :) |
| 20:13.08 | Skyhusker | btw florian, do you like the layout for the files? |
| 20:13.50 | florian | pb_: did you have any success with the icon of gpe-what? |
| 20:14.07 | florian | Skyhusker: yes... that's better than before imho. |
| 20:14.18 | Skyhusker | thanks :) |
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| 20:26.10 | _orangey | koen|tv: I think this is the line responsible: /etc/profile.d/tslib.sh: 16: detect-stylus: not found |
| 20:26.30 | florian | hrm... |
| 20:26.44 | _orangey | koen|tv: that happened when trying to install the package "opie-taskbar" |
| 20:26.56 | _orangey | florian: what do you think that is? |
| 20:27.07 | florian | Skyhusker: that looks pretty cool - it is working fine for me now too. |
| 20:27.22 | Skyhusker | florian: nice :) |
| 20:27.55 | florian | Skyhusker: one strange effect i found is when i pass --enable-dbus it turns off dbus. |
| 20:28.10 | Skyhusker | are you planning to release that code before familiar 0.8.3? |
| 20:28.24 | florian | if i don't give any parameter dbus is on... |
| 20:28.46 | Skyhusker | florian: hum, that's because i only test if the variable has any value |
| 20:28.48 | koen|tv | orangey: simple, don't use opie |
| 20:28.59 | Skyhusker | so --enable-dbus is interpreted as --disable-dbus |
| 20:29.13 | Skyhusker | dbus is on by default |
| 20:29.41 | florian | Skyhusker: That would be good, there are still some open issues we need to wait for, so i think we enough time. |
| 20:29.56 | florian | _orangey: sorry, no idea about opie stuff... |
| 20:30.13 | _orangey | koen|tv: that's not an opie error, though.. |
| 20:30.18 | _orangey | it has to do with tslib.sh |
| 20:30.32 | florian | Skyhusker: right, that's what happens. |
| 20:30.41 | Skyhusker | i'll change it, sec |
| 20:30.56 | _orangey | koen|tv: plus.. wouldn't it be nice if we could fix one of your packages? |
| 20:31.09 | florian | Skyhusker: I need to get this into cvs in a clean way... i guess that involves removing some stuff on the cvs server. |
| 20:31.34 | Skyhusker | florian: i think that would be the harder task |
| 20:31.34 | florian | france, france_: ping |
| 20:31.49 | Skyhusker | probably you'll need to directly manipulate the files in the repository |
| 20:31.49 | chipi | hi. |
| 20:31.52 | Skyhusker | hey chipi |
| 20:32.27 | florian | Skyhusker: yes... at least to get rid of these - now useless - directories. |
| 20:32.51 | florian | hgi chipi |
| 20:32.54 | florian | uh |
| 20:32.57 | florian | hi |
| 20:33.29 | chipi | florian: Skyhusker code is self-explaning, hehe :) |
| 20:33.47 | chipi | Skyhusker's code, sorry. |
| 20:33.51 | florian | :-) |
| 20:36.34 | _orangey | koen|tv: OK.. it seems that package depends on detect-stylus.. |
| 20:37.20 | Skyhusker | florian: http://ignition.rm-fr.net/~fiam/configure.ac.diff |
| 20:37.39 | Skyhusker | chipi: wireless related code is the really ugly, no matter who writes it ;) |
| 20:38.41 | chipi | Skyhusker: i read the patch, hehe :-) |
| 20:38.58 | Skyhusker | autotools crap :D |
| 20:39.03 | Skyhusker | XD |
| 20:39.55 | chipi | florian: be quite with hyper-speedy Skyhusker's internet connection. |
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| 20:40.36 | mimecar | re |
| 20:40.42 | florian | chipi: here at home my downstream isn't too bad too :-) |
| 20:40.47 | florian | hi mimecar |
| 20:40.52 | mimecar | hi florian |
| 20:41.14 | Skyhusker | hehe, he's joking, i've 56k XD |
| 20:41.30 | florian | :-) |
| 20:41.56 | Skyhusker | i call it bandnarrownes |
| 20:42.14 | florian | oh well... a debian upgrade or an OE build won't be fun then ;-) |
| 20:42.28 | chipi | Skyhusker: 'The past is tomorrow' :) |
| 20:42.30 | mimecar | florian: is there some money tracker for gpe ? |
| 20:42.38 | Skyhusker | i had to do the initial pull from the university and then wget the database |
| 20:43.06 | Skyhusker | monotone should be able to resume pull's, but that's another history |
| 20:43.36 | florian | mimecar: I remember soneone was working on it some weeks ago, but i haven't heared anything for quite some time. |
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| 20:43.51 | mimecar | ok |
| 20:44.03 | mimecar | test editor is the only solution |
| 20:44.06 | Skyhusker | btw florian, i've started writing a front-end to libeina |
| 20:44.07 | mimecar | text editor |
| 20:44.17 | florian | Skyhusker: monnotone should be able to do that much... |
| 20:44.25 | Skyhusker | but i'm not sure if i'll be able to finish it before familiar 0.8.3 gets released |
| 20:44.45 | florian | Skyhusker: rock! i wish i had that much time... or were that fast :-) |
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| 20:45.16 | Skyhusker | florian: i'm free all the afternoons until practices at university start :) |
| 20:45.22 | Skyhusker | that's next week :( |
| 20:46.06 | chipi | :) |
| 20:49.32 | florian | Skyhusker: Do you want to use gpe or handhelds.org cvs for that frontend? |
| 20:50.00 | Skyhusker | florian: i prefer doing it in my private svn repository until it's more mature |
| 20:50.02 | Skyhusker | thanks anyway ;) |
| 20:50.09 | florian | Skyhusker: okay :-) |
| 20:59.26 | mimecar | Skyhusker: what are you developing ? |
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| 21:01.29 | Skyhusker | mimecar: an audio player |
| 21:01.42 | mimecar | a frontend ? |
| 21:02.14 | Skyhusker | to libeina |
| 21:02.17 | Skyhusker | http://bolgo.cent.uji.es/proyectos/eina |
| 21:03.09 | koen|tv | aargh |
| 21:03.18 | koen|tv | I added gnumeric 1.5.90 today to OE |
| 21:03.24 | koen|tv | and what happens? |
| 21:03.33 | koen|tv | 1.6.0 get's released an *hour* after that |
| 21:03.48 | mimecar | Skyhusker: screenshots are in spanish |
| 21:03.56 | mimecar | koen|tv: murphy law |
| 21:04.22 | mimecar | it looks cool |
| 21:04.34 | Skyhusker | mimecar: seems that the author is Spanish |
| 21:04.39 | Skyhusker | mimecar: i'm just using his library |
| 21:04.50 | Skyhusker | the front-end is being written from scratch |
| 21:05.04 | mimecar | ok |
| 21:05.06 | koen|tv | un osite de peluche |
| 21:05.20 | mimecar | koen: xDDD |
| 21:05.43 | koen | that's in the 'usefull objects' category |
| 21:05.56 | Skyhusker | mimecar: rima-tdr.net? that's a Spanish ISP, isn't? |
| 21:06.15 | mimecar | I think so |
| 21:06.20 | mimecar | but i'm not sure |
| 21:06.42 | Skyhusker | mimecar: i've just remembered we were talking the other day XD |
| 21:07.54 | mimecar | xDD |
| 21:07.56 | koen | http://tigert.1g.fi/kuvat/Work/Gnome+Summit+2005/group-pic.jpg/full |
| 21:08.04 | koen | I think I see luc and mallum on the left |
| 21:08.47 | mimecar | I think there will be a GUADEC on spain next year |
| 21:08.55 | mimecar | anyone knows it ? |
| 21:09.27 | koen | there will be at least a guadec-es |
| 21:09.34 | france_ | florian: hi |
| 21:09.41 | koen | hey france_ |
| 21:09.48 | france_ | koen: hi |
| 21:09.50 | mimecar | it appears on gnome page |
| 21:09.58 | koen | mimecar: http://2006.guadec.org/ |
| 21:10.20 | mimecar | on may... |
| 21:10.28 | mimecar | I wish i would be able to go |
| 21:10.31 | Skyhusker | time to go bed, gn8 guys |
| 21:10.37 | koen | 'night Skyhusker |
| 21:10.37 | mimecar | night Skyhusker |
| 21:11.24 | mreimer | koen, didn't somebody submit a tabbed text editor a while back? If it works well, it might be good to have that in 2.7 |
| 21:11.30 | florian | france_: Could you... he just disaapeared... allow skyhusker to write to apps/prismstumbler cvs? |
| 21:12.10 | koen | http://tango-project.org/Tango_Icon_Gallery has some pretty nice icons |
| 21:12.23 | france_ | florian: sure |
| 21:12.40 | mimecar | koen: it has |
| 21:12.53 | florian | france_: He should be using the same username for hh.org. |
| 21:13.03 | florian | france_: many thanks! |
| 21:13.10 | mimecar | is there a oficial icon theme for the next realease of gpe ? |
| 21:13.59 | florian | france_: Can i remove stuff from cvs on the server directly? |
| 21:14.13 | florian | mimecar: not yet... |
| 21:14.25 | mimecar | ok |
| 21:14.38 | france_ | florian: added |
| 21:14.39 | florian | koen: we'll discuss about this as soon as all major bugs are fixed. okay? :-) |
| 21:14.41 | france_ | florian: please do not! |
| 21:14.46 | florian | hehe |
| 21:14.53 | florian | france_: many thanks... |
| 21:15.00 | france_ | florian: we should always keep the history, as there may be bins out based on that source. |
| 21:15.08 | fng_sma | I need to go... have a nice day. |
| 21:15.17 | mimecar | hey fng_sma |
| 21:15.19 | mreimer | bye fng_sma |
| 21:15.36 | france_ | florian: once the bin has been distributed we are stuck keeping the source. |
| 21:15.51 | fng_sma | hi mimecar |
| 21:16.23 | florian | france_: I know it is bad, but i checked in some historic local repository of libpcap and wlanctl into prismstumbler cvs and it might be a good idea to get rid of them. |
| 21:16.27 | koen | doesn't cvs feature a 'cvs remove'? |
| 21:16.39 | florian | koen: yes, but not for directories. |
| 21:17.26 | florian | france_: It is included in all the published releases, so i don't think that will cause legal trouble. |
| 21:19.15 | france_ | florian: deleting it from the server is almost always trouble, much better to use cvs remove, besides I thought the default for for checkout was -P |
| 21:19.48 | france_ | florian: as somebody might want to check out an older version of the repository |
| 21:20.28 | florian | france_: hmm i see... imho it isn't default, but i have it in .cvsrc anyway. |
| 21:21.43 | france_ | I just do not want to break antything if somebody tries to check out and older revision, which deleting from the server almost always breaks. |
| 21:22.38 | florian | okay |
| 21:32.32 | florian | good night |
| 21:32.50 | pb_ | florian: good night |
| 21:32.51 | koen | 'night florian |
| 21:32.59 | reenoo | 'night florian |
| 21:56.31 | _orangey | hmmmm... |
| 21:56.36 | _orangey | any ideas what this means: update-alternatives: Error: cannot register alternative lsmod to /sbin/lsmod since it is already registered to /bin/lsmod |
| 21:58.37 | pb_ | it's a packaging bug. |
| 21:59.13 | pb_ | you'll need to take that up with whoever built the feed you are using. |
| 22:00.49 | _orangey | pb_: : ) |
| 22:02.56 | _orangey | and incidentally, I seem to have lost my /dev/ links, such that there is no device there when I put in my sdram card.. |
| 22:02.57 | _orangey | sd card, rather |
| 22:02.57 | _orangey | : ) |
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