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| 09:42.48 | bedboi | hi there |
| 10:04.16 | lucasvo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:34.29 | florian | good morning |
| 10:41.23 | pb_ | florian: good morning! |
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| 10:43.50 | bedboi | morning all |
| 10:44.14 | koen | good morning all |
| 10:44.39 | bedboi | what's a good color to draw the appointment popup border in gpe-calendar? |
| 10:47.12 | koen | black or make it use window decoration |
| 10:47.52 | bedboi | i don't like it with window decoration |
| 10:48.12 | bedboi | i don't want it to appear as a normal popup |
| 10:48.25 | bedboi | it should be like a post-it |
| 10:48.34 | koen | it is a pop-up, right? |
| 10:48.38 | bedboi | yes |
| 10:48.57 | bedboi | but the appearance should be different froma a popup |
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| 10:53.39 | pb_ | bedboi: black would be fine |
| 10:53.56 | bedboi | maybe a different background colour too? |
| 10:54.04 | bedboi | or gray is good? |
| 10:54.22 | pb_ | yes, a different background might be nice. |
| 10:54.31 | pb_ | if you want it to look like a Post-It, you could make it yellow or pink. |
| 10:54.35 | bedboi | something like post it |
| 10:54.42 | bedboi | maybe light yellow |
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| 10:55.12 | pb_ | sounds good to me |
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| 10:55.36 | mimecar | morning |
| 10:55.37 | pb_ | I guess you should make that configurable in the gtkrc. |
| 10:55.41 | pb_ | hi mimecar |
| 10:55.57 | mimecar | hi pb_ |
| 10:56.00 | bedboi | pb_: hmmm...i don't know how to do that |
| 10:56.05 | bedboi | pb_: any ref? |
| 10:56.40 | pb_ | bedboi: look at the GtkStyle documentation on developer.gnome.org |
| 10:56.44 | bedboi | ok |
| 10:56.54 | pb_ | I think gpe-buttonbox supports that for its window background, too. |
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| 12:29.56 | bedboi | hi there |
| 12:31.55 | koen | hey bedboi |
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| 13:05.53 | hrhr | hi |
| 13:07.15 | mimecar | hi hrhr |
| 13:18.44 | lucasvo | hrhr: were you able to build a gpe image of fam083 for hx4700? |
| 13:19.42 | hrhr | lucasvo: /query lucasvo |
| 13:19.56 | lucasvo | hrhr: I didn't register my nick |
| 13:19.57 | hrhr | ? |
| 13:19.59 | lucasvo | hrhr: won't wokr |
| 13:20.19 | lucasvo | hrhr: they banned querys for not registered people in freenode |
| 13:20.21 | lucasvo | why? |
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| 13:24.21 | lucasvo | hrhr: what is? send me mail lucasvo@gmx.ch or privmessage on irc.wservices.ch |
| 13:25.42 | hrhr | lucasvo: have you icq? |
| 13:26.06 | hrhr | i understand english not well and not want spam channel |
| 13:28.06 | bedboi | going to politechnic |
| 13:29.19 | orangey | lucasvo, What starter kit do you use? |
| 13:29.29 | orangey | lucasvo, and do you by chance use haret? |
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| 13:52.21 | florian | re |
| 13:57.15 | orangey | re : ) |
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| 14:03.36 | florian | hi bedboi |
| 14:03.42 | bedboi | hi there |
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| 16:08.48 | lucasvo | orangey: I don't use haret |
| 16:09.59 | lucasvo | hasn't anyone got a newer starterkit than the one from sdg systems for hx4700? |
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| 17:07.57 | orangey | lucasvo, I can't find a full kit.. |
| 17:09.10 | lucasvo | orangey: http://sdgsystems.com/pub/ipaq/hx4700/starterkit/current/ |
| 17:09.39 | orangey | lucasvo, other than that one. : ) |
| 17:09.42 | orangey | that one doesn't have gpe.. |
| 17:10.00 | lucasvo | ah |
| 17:10.01 | lucasvo | ehm |
| 17:10.56 | lucasvo | there is a starterkit somewhere |
| 17:15.53 | orangey | : ) |
| 17:16.18 | orangey | incidentally, lucasvo: must I have a CF card to get linux on my ipaq (not via haret, which works OK from SD)? |
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| 17:21.25 | Skyhusker | florian: i'm adding support for dbus in prismstumbler. should it default to enabled or disabled? |
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| 17:23.10 | mimecar | evening |
| 17:25.58 | florian | Skyhusker: cool! enabled... i guess we have support for this in most environments. |
| 17:26.05 | florian | hi mimecar |
| 17:26.08 | mimecar | hey florian |
| 17:26.21 | Skyhusker | florian: ok :) |
| 17:26.21 | Skyhusker | hey mimecar |
| 17:26.36 | mimecar | hi Skyhusker |
| 17:40.27 | orangey | lucasvo, do your buttons work, by chance? |
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| 18:10.28 | bedboi | hi all |
| 18:17.06 | Skyhusker | hey bedboi |
| 18:26.29 | bedboi | hi there Skyhusker |
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| 18:31.20 | koen | re |
| 18:33.56 | bedboi | re |
| 18:36.59 | Skyhusker | florian: autotools are making me crazy |
| 18:37.07 | Skyhusker | hey koen |
| 18:37.15 | koen | hey Skyhusker |
| 18:37.34 | Skyhusker | does anyone know if PKG_CHECK_MODULES() can be called twice? |
| 18:37.58 | Skyhusker | if i do that, i get an error stating that my pkg-config version is too old :-/ |
| 18:40.38 | koen | Skyhusker: don't get surprised if dbus doesn't work on your ipaq, since dbus changed API |
| 18:41.05 | Skyhusker | koen: which dbus version will be in familiar 0.8.3? |
| 18:41.09 | koen | the next release will use 0.23.4, gpe 2.8 should be able to use 0.50 |
| 18:43.05 | koen | see http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=269 for patches which port the APIs |
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| 18:44.14 | koen | hey zecke |
| 18:45.07 | koen | florian: lots of patches for gpe: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=269 :) |
| 18:49.47 | orangey | koen: Do you use an hx4700 by chance? |
| 18:49.59 | koen | orangey: yes |
| 18:50.20 | orangey | koen, do you use haret with it by chance? |
| 18:50.25 | koen | nope |
| 18:50.33 | orangey | you're booting linux from it directly/ |
| 18:50.34 | koen | I flashed it 5 minutes after I got it |
| 18:50.37 | orangey | : ) |
| 18:50.43 | orangey | and how are you coping with being without wireless? |
| 18:50.58 | koen | cf wireless card |
| 18:51.02 | orangey | koen, what type? |
| 18:51.49 | orangey | koen, well, I tried to make wince work, but it's INFURIATING, so I want to flash.. do you have any advice? |
| 18:52.20 | koen | asus wl110, sandisk connect+ and a buffalo airstation |
| 18:52.40 | orangey | OK, I'll try to get a hold of one of those or the other.. |
| 18:54.58 | orangey | koen, I don't suppose you are using some publicly available kit.. |
| 18:55.57 | koen | http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~zabel/hx4700/ is pretty good |
| 18:56.59 | orangey | but incomplete, no? |
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| 18:58.13 | koen | yeah, you'll need to install bootldr from the sdg site first |
| 18:59.59 | orangey | koen: OK.. Thank you so much for answering all my questions : ) |
| 19:00.09 | orangey | oh.. also, opie vs. gpe? |
| 19:00.28 | orangey | whatever it is needs to sync with my kontact .ics and .vcf files |
| 19:01.28 | florian | re |
| 19:01.39 | florian | Skyhusker: heh... i know this effect :-( |
| 19:02.37 | florian | koen: ops indeed, looks pretty nice. |
| 19:02.48 | Skyhusker | florian: i think that rewritting the full build system could be better |
| 19:02.52 | Skyhusker | i'll try later |
| 19:03.31 | Skyhusker | florian: is there any special reason to include a copy of libpcap and wlanctl? |
| 19:08.51 | florian | Skyhusker: not anymore... thats some relict from ancient history. I should have dropped this a long time ago, but i never managed to do this. |
| 19:10.21 | Skyhusker | florian: i'll try to remove those things, gpsd (using libgpsd instead of) and rewrite the build system |
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| 19:16.26 | koen | gpsd also supports dbus nowadays |
| 19:17.30 | orangey | koen: are all of your buttons working, btw? |
| 19:18.15 | florian | Skyhusker: that would be perfect... the libpcap shouldn't be used anymore as well, i should get rid of it in cvs. |
| 19:18.30 | florian | koen: hmm... well... :-) |
| 19:18.42 | florian | did i mention the terrible lack of time?! |
| 19:20.20 | orangey | oh, and last question: must I have a CF memory card?? |
| 19:22.26 | koen | orangey: it would make flashing a lot easier |
| 19:22.41 | orangey | koen, what's the alternative? |
| 19:22.46 | koen | serial cable |
| 19:22.56 | orangey | usb is impossible? |
| 19:22.59 | koen | you also need a sd card to flash the bootldr |
| 19:23.05 | koen | orangey: at the moment usb isn't an option |
| 19:23.09 | koen | (for flashing) |
| 19:23.10 | orangey | I have an SD, but not a CF |
| 19:23.32 | orangey | even if I get a CF, though, how will I copy the file onto it? I don't have a CF reader.. |
| 19:23.56 | koen | you can transfer them via activesync before flashing |
| 19:24.03 | orangey | aaah. I see.. |
| 19:24.14 | orangey | alright.. I'm gonna go buy a CF then and see how it goes.. |
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| 19:29.22 | florian | hi france_ |
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| 19:52.36 | orangey | yay!! linux, here I come! |
| 20:07.42 | orangey | so, when sdg's thing boots up, does it stay on that "sdg systems" screen until it boots up, or is there a console feedback? |
| 20:13.43 | orangey | koen|tv, how long does it take to boot up for the first time with opie (with sdg's starter kit)? |
| 20:14.15 | koen|tv | no idea |
| 20:14.18 | koen|tv | use gpe |
| 20:14.33 | bedboi | eheheh |
| 20:15.18 | orangey | koen|tv, : ) |
| 20:15.22 | orangey | koen|tv, OK, how long should that take? |
| 20:15.40 | koen|tv | 10 minutes or so |
| 20:15.57 | orangey | for first boot?? |
| 20:29.00 | orangey | koen|tv, I hope you meant 10 minutes is how long it takes to boot the first time : ) cuz I'm on minute 4 now for my first boot of gpe |
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| 20:40.33 | reenoo | evening |
| 20:41.01 | florian | hi reenoo |
| 20:41.09 | reenoo | hey florian |
| 20:41.16 | reenoo | brb |
| 20:43.03 | koen|tv | hey reenoo |
| 20:45.16 | orangey | koen|tv, I waited it out to about 15 mins, but no luck. |
| 20:45.22 | orangey | so now I'm going to try to put a different kernel.. |
| 20:45.33 | orangey | do I also have to have the initrd somewhere? |
| 20:45.44 | koen|tv | you kernel needs to match the rootfs |
| 20:45.47 | orangey | or is that only for haret? |
| 20:45.53 | orangey | koen|tv, oooh. I see.. |
| 20:46.05 | orangey | I think it did, though.. |
| 20:46.13 | orangey | I had the zImage from zabel, and his gpe image.. |
| 20:46.49 | orangey | in any case, I'll try from the start again.. |
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| 20:47.36 | luc_ | hi |
| 20:48.11 | koen|tv | hey luc!! |
| 20:49.02 | luc_ | hey koen :) long time... |
| 20:49.03 | florian | eeks! |
| 20:49.07 | florian | luc_: hey! |
| 20:49.32 | luc_ | hey florian |
| 20:50.09 | luc_ | tkaing a break... "playing" with libgpewidget and autotools... looks like great improvement (ahah) :) |
| 20:50.28 | florian | heh |
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| 20:51.41 | luc_ | hmm conf start again, bbl |
| 20:52.12 | koen|tv | luc_: say hi to tommi, jg and rob taylor |
| 20:53.09 | reenoo | re |
| 20:53.23 | reenoo | hey koen|tv |
| 20:54.05 | luc_ | koen, hi from Tommi |
| 20:55.36 | florian | uh! Tommi ate luc_ ;-) |
| 20:56.32 | orangey | grrr... now stuck on "please wait: booting..." |
| 20:57.34 | reenoo | hmm. is simply everyone working for nokia now? or is there some sort of conference going on at mit? |
| 20:58.28 | reenoo | nevermind |
| 20:59.19 | koen|tv | heh |
| 20:59.29 | koen|tv | I think both things are correct |
| 20:59.58 | reenoo | heh |
| 21:00.01 | koen|tv | jamey, luc, phillipe, o-hand, kc |
| 21:00.49 | reenoo | yah. I was wondering about jg and rob though |
| 21:01.18 | reenoo | I didn't get the gnome summit -> boston -> mit connection right at first |
| 21:01.32 | koen|tv | rob was contracted by nokia too iirc |
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| 21:01.37 | koen|tv | no idea on jg |
| 21:03.19 | reenoo | ah, interesting |
| 21:03.57 | koen|tv | iirc dougt too |
| 21:07.47 | florian | heh... |
| 21:08.25 | koen|tv | I guess I was the only one at fosdem without an NDA |
| 21:12.04 | reenoo | florian: mind if I /msg you again? |
| 21:13.47 | florian_kc | reenoo: just do it :-) |
| 21:14.23 | pb_ | hi reenoo |
| 21:14.31 | pb_ | oh, wow, luc lives. |
| 21:14.35 | reenoo | hey pb_ |
| 21:14.38 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 21:15.02 | koen|tv | I haven't seen phillipe in a while though |
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| 21:28.34 | florian_kc | hmm indeed |
| 21:29.12 | florian_kc | Maybe he is still without internat access at home. |
| 21:31.27 | orangey | hmmm. |
| 21:31.33 | orangey | koen|tv, I just see a penguin.. |
| 21:34.02 | bedboi | orangey: it's going to eat your ipaq |
| 21:34.11 | bedboi | watch out |
| 21:37.34 | orangey | bedboi, seriously, how long will the penguin stay there the first time? |
| 21:40.54 | orangey | man. I wish I wasn't born in the ADHD generation.. |
| 21:41.12 | bedboi | orangey: don't know |
| 21:41.20 | bedboi | ah, try to reboot |
| 21:41.24 | orangey | bedboi, in the 10 minute range? |
| 21:41.30 | bedboi | the first time remains there forever |
| 21:41.33 | bedboi | you should reboot |
| 21:41.37 | bedboi | with the pen |
| 21:41.59 | orangey | ok, rebooting |
| 21:42.24 | orangey | and how long does it take this time? |
| 21:42.31 | orangey | p.s., I think I did reboot a second time or such. |
| 21:45.16 | lucasvo | orangey: the buttons work after a patch |
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| 21:46.22 | lucasvo | the ipkg is this one: wservices.ch/~lucas/hx4700/xserver-common_1.1-r3_armv5te.ipk |
| 22:48.56 | florian_kc | good night |
| 22:50.11 | reenoo | 'night florian_kc |
| 22:58.08 | reenoo | 'night all |
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