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| 02:18.14 | krokas__ | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.27099.png |
| 02:18.25 | krokas__ | http://handhelds.org/~krokas/screenshots/port.26392.png |
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| 02:19.35 | krokas__ | http://handhelds.org/~krokas/screenshots/port.25038.png |
| 02:20.55 | krokas__ | As far all gtk# app I tested work |
| 02:23.01 | krokas__ | I still testing the patch i did. It is very late here... |
| 02:24.50 | krokas__ | On the matter of speed: |
| 02:25.16 | krokas__ | The Mono super JIT is 65% faster than the ultra slow PNET interpreteer |
| 02:25.47 | krokas__ | on Float-Operations the PNET engine with when compiled with -soft-float is more than 4 times faster |
| 02:26.41 | krokas__ | Apps like the calculator I tested work fine, the calendar, and such, work fine |
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| 05:39.50 | darmou | hmm perhaps people are asleep |
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| 07:00.41 | darmou | hi koen |
| 07:00.43 | koen | good morning all |
| 07:00.53 | koen | hey darmou |
| 07:01.22 | darmou | koen I have insstalled the timezones and timezones-australia package but the timezone list looks the same af before |
| 07:01.55 | darmou | I'm also having problem installing gpe-mini-browser, when it tries to update the libs on the root filesystem it runs out of room and crashes the device:( |
| 07:02.17 | darmou | koen is there a command line way of altering the timezone? |
| 07:03.44 | koen | symlink the correct timezone? |
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| 07:05.42 | darmou | I symlinked /etc/localtime to the right timezone |
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| 07:07.56 | darmou | with the second issue I'm just wondering if anyone has made a custom initrd.bin with some more up to date libs that would solve my problem bacasue gpe-mini-browser needs a lat of update libs |
| 07:08.57 | darmou | hi Toi |
| 07:09.17 | Toi | hi darmou |
| 07:11.49 | darmou | Toi has there been any update to the minimo browser in a while? |
| 07:12.26 | darmou | or would I be better to look at gpe-min-browser and try to get that to install? |
| 07:21.55 | darmou | perhaps and iPaQ would be better to run gpe on hmm |
| 07:24.25 | Toi | darmou: no clue, I'm not actively involved with gpe |
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| 08:54.56 | jsmanrique | hi |
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| 08:57.29 | rob_w-cgi | hey all |
| 09:00.05 | bedboi | hi all |
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| 09:43.58 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 09:44.23 | bedboi | morning |
| 09:44.29 | _law_ | florian_kc, morning |
| 09:48.53 | Bilbolodz | morning floriam |
| 09:54.13 | koen | hey florian_kc |
| 09:55.02 | OSS542 | morning? |
| 09:55.12 | OSS542 | I just got home from work |
| 09:58.43 | koen | florian_kc: are you ok with the gpe-image patch? |
| 10:01.44 | florian_kc | koen: hi... yes, the last version looked pretty good. |
| 10:26.16 | koen | florian_kc: is it ok to apply it? |
| 10:27.49 | florian_kc | koen: i'd say yes... i can take a look at the details later today. Did you check the resulting filesystem sizes? |
| 10:28.31 | koen | no, but I doubt I filled 12MB of jffs2 with gpe-filemanager |
| 10:28.45 | koen | I did install the seperate packages on my h5550 |
| 10:30.12 | florian_kc | I hope so... if the build was using the non-dbus Orbit maybe ;-) |
| 10:36.54 | koen | it's in .dev |
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| 10:46.59 | jsmanrique | hi, again |
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| 10:58.11 | jsmanrique | just a stupid question.. has somebody thought about using inkml for handwritten data storage? |
| 10:58.34 | jsmanrique | http://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/ink |
| 10:59.48 | florian_kc | hmm... that looks interesting. |
| 11:00.57 | jsmanrique | florian_kc: I have talked yesterday with someone working in w3c office here, and they would like seeing more development on this area |
| 11:03.22 | lardman|work | Anyone want to sell GPE to a possible pdaXrom convert here: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15379 |
| 11:04.40 | jsmanrique | this presentation is very interesting for inkml: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-multimodal/2005Sep/0003.html |
| 11:06.53 | florian_kc | lardman|work: :-) |
| 11:07.19 | lardman|work | re inml - How do they decide how often to record a point? |
| 11:07.27 | lardman|work | s/inml/inkml |
| 11:08.30 | lardman|work | just thinking about accuracy vs storage reqs |
| 11:09.32 | lardman|work | but I suppose that's not what it's about - inkml is just the xml format |
| 11:11.54 | jsmanrique | lardman|work: inkml is the xml to describe the handwritten input, and more |
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| 11:13.16 | lardman|work | jsmanrique: I was thinking further along than that - about how the characters will be recognised, etc. and how much storage is required, but this is not what inkml's about - it's there for standardisation |
| 11:15.36 | florian_kc | hi lolita__ |
| 11:15.53 | lolita__ | hi florian_kc |
| 11:16.16 | lolita__ | i've just read about the n770 delay on reuthers.co.uk and i'm superpissed ;) |
| 11:16.28 | jsmanrique | lardman|work: I think that it could even save the recognized data |
| 11:17.05 | jsmanrique | lardman|work: imagine a inkml doc (and email, i.e.).. handwritten in your pda and sent to a friend |
| 11:17.51 | lardman|work | jsmanrique: Yes compatibility and small file sizes |
| 11:18.03 | jsmanrique | lardman|work: and even more |
| 11:18.41 | florian_kc | lolita__: do you have a link? |
| 11:18.48 | lardman|work | jsmanrique: What else though? Surely it only offers these (plus some more meta info about how the drawing was made, etc.)? |
| 11:18.57 | jsmanrique | lardman|work: if the doc let you store the recognized text.. it could be possible for example to read it with a reader (imagine: handwritten text to voice reader...) |
| 11:19.15 | jsmanrique | lardman|work: of course, a recognizer would be needed |
| 11:19.26 | jsmanrique | lardman|work: inkml is just a w3c recomendation |
| 11:19.34 | lardman|work | jsmanrique: Ah, but that's a whole extra app which is needed - inkml only provides a standardised format for the data |
| 11:19.49 | lardman|work | jsmanrique: you beat me to it |
| 11:20.25 | lardman|work | jsmanrique: I think it's a good idea, but it's only a single building block of a given app - that's what I was trying to say |
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| 11:55.09 | _law_ | http://pastebin.com/384860 gpe-image doesnt build |
| 11:55.54 | florian_kc | ~fishslap koen |
| 11:55.55 | ibot | ACTION slaps koen up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 11:55.58 | koen | _law_: #oe |
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| 12:03.40 | _law_ | koen, thanks :-) |
| 12:14.43 | koen | florian_kc: do you know why the bigscreen interface for the 'new contact' is missing a tab? |
| 12:15.49 | florian_kc | koen: ehh... which one? |
| 12:16.01 | koen | the notes |
| 12:16.05 | koen | I found out why |
| 12:18.06 | koen | florian_kc: http://handhelds.org/scap/land.16520.png |
| 12:18.14 | koen | the input fields are a bit small |
| 12:19.52 | florian_kc | koen: hrm... indeed... that looks like we need to use diffent themes depending on the screen size :-( |
| 12:20.03 | koen | ehm |
| 12:20.35 | lardman|work | koen: about the post: yes perhaps, but we should try to get as many people on-board as possible rather than putting him off by telling him to go search |
| 12:20.39 | koen | my point was that the small screen interface would be better |
| 12:20.56 | koen | lardman|work: that's why I haven't responded |
| 12:21.02 | lardman|work | koen: lol |
| 12:21.29 | lardman|work | koen: I'll respond to him in the fullness of time then :) |
| 12:21.54 | florian_kc | koen: that shouldn't influence the default size of the editable fields. |
| 12:23.21 | koen | florian_kc: http://handhelds.org/scap/land.17092.png |
| 12:23.29 | koen | that has only one column |
| 12:26.06 | florian_kc | right... but as i said... the default width of the entry field should be defined by the theme. |
| 12:28.50 | koen | florian_kc: then why is the 'web' entry the right size? |
| 12:29.01 | florian_kc | koen: Can you try a theme which lacks this bit? If they are still too small that would be a bug. |
| 12:29.23 | florian_kc | koen: that is expanded because it takes three columns. |
| 12:32.17 | koen | florian_kc: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.18184.png |
| 12:32.23 | lardman|work | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14461&st=30 |
| 12:32.24 | koen | gtk default theme, empty gtkrc |
| 12:32.28 | koen | ehm |
| 12:32.32 | koen | florian_kc: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.18184.png |
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| 13:14.40 | reenoo | afternoon |
| 13:14.48 | bedboi | hi reenoo |
| 13:15.34 | reenoo | hey bedboi |
| 13:16.32 | koen | hey reenoo |
| 13:21.47 | reenoo | hi koen |
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| 13:35.04 | koen | one bug less |
| 13:37.21 | bedboi | wow... 2.6.13 support for TCP congestion control modules is outstanding |
| 13:37.21 | reenoo | gpe-bootsplash? |
| 13:37.33 | bedboi | tcp_input.c was really a mess |
| 13:40.51 | koen | reenoo: yes |
| 13:43.45 | reenoo | very good |
| 13:46.26 | koen | what's the difference between float and gfloat? |
| 13:46.35 | koen | gpe-nmf is using both in the same file |
| 13:46.45 | reenoo | depends on the architecture |
| 13:47.47 | koen | I know glib provides abstraction for that |
| 13:47.59 | koen | this is why: http://handhelds.org:8080/gpe/chngview?cn=665 |
| 13:48.22 | koen | I see a (float)v and (gfloat)v two lines apart |
| 13:49.12 | reenoo | ah, yeah, that (float)v is a bug |
| 13:49.56 | reenoo | glib/gobject/gtk+/... functions should always be called with g* data types as arguments |
| 13:50.02 | _law_ | lardman|work, does quake work ? on my Z it segfaults |
| 13:52.50 | bedboi | yes |
| 13:52.55 | bedboi | gfloat is portable |
| 13:57.04 | florian_kc | re |
| 13:58.29 | reenoo | hey florian_kc |
| 13:58.49 | florian_kc | hi reenoo |
| 14:02.04 | florian_kc | koen: that's not really good indeed... i'll check this later today. |
| 14:02.14 | pb_ | hi florian_kc |
| 14:02.15 | pb_ | hi reenoo |
| 14:02.52 | florian_kc | hi pb_ |
| 14:07.06 | lardman|work | _law_: Up to a point it works - then it crashes when you go to pick up some object - I never did get round to tracking that bug down |
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| 14:09.17 | florian_kc | koen: In this case it won't hurt... but i'm going to move this all to the g* data types. |
| 14:09.50 | florian_kc | koen: but the first step is to check out what is going wrong with the ivorbis plugin. |
| 14:19.19 | florian_kc | koen: The gpe-contacts issue is interesting, it behaves absolutely correct on my PC. |
| 14:25.04 | reenoo | hey pb_ |
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| 15:19.43 | koen | hey tigrux |
| 15:20.16 | tigrux | Hello koen! |
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| 16:00.04 | koen | ~lart gpe-bootsplash |
| 16:01.03 | florian_kc | uh... what's up? |
| 16:01.18 | koen | root@ipaq-pxa270:/usr/share/gpe# gpe-bootsplash |
| 16:01.18 | koen | Segmentation fault |
| 16:01.45 | koen | that's after openening the svg in inkscape and changing 'gpe 2.6' into 'gpe 2.7' |
| 16:01.59 | florian_kc | huh |
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| 16:03.22 | koen | after I remove the 'gpe 2.7' it doesn't segfault |
| 16:03.53 | florian_kc | koen: did someone fix the i18n stuff? my Simpad (64mb) created the locales sucessfully yesterday. |
| 16:04.06 | koen | it needs ~60 mb or so |
| 16:04.14 | koen | so it's touch and go with 64 mb devices |
| 16:04.34 | florian_kc | Oh... on my workstation it took about 120. |
| 16:05.10 | koen | more locales I guess |
| 16:05.29 | florian_kc | ah no... for one |
| 16:05.36 | florian_kc | it creates on after another... |
| 16:07.18 | koen | aha |
| 16:07.23 | koen | 'object to path' fixes it |
| 16:11.53 | florian_kc | koen: If you have an up to date h3900 image i'd be interested :-) |
| 16:12.45 | koen | I should have one in a minute or 20 |
| 16:15.21 | florian_kc | koen: cool :-) |
| 16:18.07 | koen | florian_kc: it should appear in http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/deploy/images/ |
| 16:18.53 | florian_kc | koen: okay, thanks... |
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| 16:22.34 | florian_kc | bbl |
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| 17:25.49 | florian_ | re |
| 17:25.57 | koen | hey florian_ |
| 17:26.04 | koen | florian_: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/deploy/images/gpe-image-h3900-20051006161721.rootfs.jffs2 |
| 17:26.08 | koen | 22MB |
| 17:26.46 | florian_ | koen: many thanks! |
| 17:28.32 | koen | np |
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| 17:33.17 | koen | hey TyggerBob |
| 17:33.31 | TyggerBob | Heya Koen |
| 17:36.48 | florian_ | koen: hmm... what is up with your machine? |
| 17:36.58 | florian_ | hi TyggerBob, hi zecke |
| 17:37.26 | TyggerBob | HI florian_ |
| 17:37.31 | koen | florian_: someone killed routing for utwente.nl |
| 17:37.45 | koen | *again* |
| 17:38.04 | florian_ | koen: oh well.. sounds familiar - uni-siegen.de isn't better :-( |
| 17:39.06 | koen | irc works because my ipv6 tunnel is inside the safe zone |
| 17:41.13 | Skyhusker | hey florian_ |
| 17:42.08 | florian_ | hi Skyhusker |
| 17:42.55 | Skyhusker | did you have time to test the patch? |
| 17:43.28 | florian_ | Skyhusker: nu, but i'll do this right now |
| 17:43.38 | Skyhusker | no problem :) |
| 17:44.03 | Skyhusker | btw, i'm thinking in adding code to launch prismstumbler 'automagically', like gpe-aerial |
| 17:45.28 | florian_ | Skyhusker: we could make it a dbus service to get invoked automatically as soon as an application requests it. |
| 17:45.48 | koen | florian_: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/h3900/gpe-image-h3900-20051006161721.rootfs.jffs2 in 10 minutes |
| 17:45.50 | Skyhusker | florian_: that would be really nice, but i have no experience with dbus services |
| 17:46.41 | florian_ | koen: okav, great! |
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| 17:47.00 | florian_ | Skyhusker: same here... but i can't be that complicated. |
| 17:47.19 | Skyhusker | florian_: i'll try to add it :) |
| 17:47.43 | florian_ | uh... my Simpad image lacks any wireless driver :-( |
| 17:49.47 | florian_ | that used to work... |
| 17:51.51 | koen | florian_: 71cf3a025bb64c3316ef3b6d6fe6ea2d /var/www/koen/deploy/images/gpe-image-h3900-20051006161721.rootfs.jffs2 |
| 17:52.05 | koen | 7 minutes left according to scp |
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| 18:00.10 | koen | florian_: upload complete |
| 18:00.20 | florian_ | koen: thanks! |
| 18:04.13 | florian_ | koen: same problem... |
| 18:07.17 | koen | hmmm |
| 18:07.27 | koen | I can't access hh.org... |
| 18:08.57 | mreimer_ | france said they were moving stuff around yesterday |
| 18:09.17 | koen | yeah |
| 18:09.23 | koen | but I can't ping google either |
| 18:09.35 | mreimer_ | I can ping hh.org |
| 18:10.08 | mreimer_ | btw hi koen :-) |
| 18:10.15 | koen | hey mreimer_ |
| 18:10.48 | koen | florian_: you have have a vpn into the hrz? |
| 18:11.51 | florian_ | koen: no... they have some incredible expensive equipment for this but are not able to use it properly :-( |
| 18:12.12 | reenoo | heh |
| 18:14.17 | florian_ | Some decisions at hrz.uni-siegen.de are incredibly stupid... |
| 18:14.23 | reenoo | we have a huge Sun box here that was bought for number crunching and is now used as a *mail server* for a research group (bypassing the standard - usually broken - one) |
| 18:15.05 | florian_ | They don't manage to make basic things work properly here.. like email and ip connections, but we are secure ;-) |
| 18:15.46 | reenoo | hehe |
| 18:15.49 | reenoo | right |
| 18:15.59 | reenoo | so secure that no data goes in or out |
| 18:16.02 | florian_ | reenoo: We have a (windows!) email cluster here filling up about two racks... that thing is _slow_ but we are forced to use it. |
| 18:16.11 | florian_ | _this_ is a pain! |
| 18:16.44 | florian_ | The most commem excuse for some failure is "DoS attack" :-/ |
| 18:17.43 | reenoo | hehe. DoS.. like.. more than two people try to use it at a time ;) |
| 18:17.50 | koen | you mean two people tried to use it? |
| 18:17.52 | koen | heh |
| 18:18.22 | florian_ | ... attacking a Cisco gigabit coreswitch (iirc 96x gigabit + fiber) seems to be pretty easy using the 34mbit external uplink ;-) |
| 18:18.24 | florian_ | *gg* |
| 18:19.49 | florian_ | Skyhusker: is this patch meant to be used standalone or with one of the others? it applied but WEPKEY_LEN isn't defined. |
| 18:20.29 | florian_ | and debug_message() |
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| 18:47.16 | koen|tv | hey zecke |
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| 20:08.46 | koen|tv | hmmm |
| 20:08.54 | koen|tv | I can reach vanille.de |
| 20:08.58 | florian | re |
| 20:09.00 | koen|tv | but not google.nl |
| 20:09.07 | koen|tv | hey florian |
| 20:10.39 | pH5 | hi florian, koen|tv |
| 20:10.44 | florian | hi pH5 |
| 20:10.44 | koen|tv | hey pH5 |
| 20:10.50 | pH5 | florian: what about gkdial? |
| 20:10.57 | koen|tv | florian: but gnome-games needs it! |
| 20:11.29 | florian | pH5, koen|tv: Ah that's okay... buth not essential stuff. ;-) |
| 20:11.37 | pH5 | I'm not sure how to port gconf-dbus to the new dbus api. has anybody looked into this yet? |
| 20:11.58 | pH5 | pb_ said gkdial should be used for gpe-bluetooth/dun connections |
| 20:12.07 | florian | koen|tv: for you or for your girlfriend ;-) |
| 20:12.09 | koen|tv | pH5: I think imendio already ported it |
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| 20:12.18 | koen|tv | florian: both :) |
| 20:12.22 | florian | :-) |
| 20:12.28 | florian | hi shiyo |
| 20:12.36 | shiyo | hi |
| 20:12.42 | florian | pH5, koen|tv: Taht would be pretty cool. |
| 20:13.05 | florian | okay.. what did i miss? |
| 20:13.25 | florian | koen|tv: is the route back? |
| 20:13.29 | shiyo | guys... do u need developers? |
| 20:13.32 | koen|tv | portially |
| 20:13.46 | florian | shiyo: yes!!! |
| 20:13.51 | koen|tv | ~seen hallski |
| 20:13.55 | ibot | hallski <n=micke@h15n1fls305o1035.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gpe, 7d 3h 48m 27s ago, saying: 'florian_kc: wouldn't make a lot of sense for 2.X since ORBit will be in the stack anyway'. |
| 20:14.29 | shiyo | lets start with sth easy... and a pretty good how-to develop and cross compile |
| 20:14.37 | shiyo | :) |
| 20:14.38 | koen|tv | pH5: http://developer.imendio.com/svn/gconf-dbus/trunk/ChangeLog |
| 20:15.17 | pH5 | koen|tv: that's good news :) |
| 20:15.38 | pH5 | (and old news as well, seems i'm not up to date) |
| 20:15.58 | florian | shiyo: Basicall GPE applicatioins are pretty simple... are you used to C? |
| 20:16.45 | shiyo | no... but i am starting to learn cause i have to do my final year project in C ... so we ll sort it out |
| 20:17.08 | shiyo | so far i m used to lame java... haskell and a bit c++ |
| 20:17.48 | pH5 | do svn:// SRC_URIs work the same way as the cvs:// ones? |
| 20:17.57 | koen|tv | pH5: more or less |
| 20:18.13 | koen|tv | they can take a proto=http |
| 20:18.39 | florian | shiyo: ah okay... good. we are working on a development manual, but it is not complete yet, but contains much of useful information. |
| 20:18.54 | shiyo | is it online? |
| 20:19.15 | reenoo | see topic |
| 20:19.56 | florian | shiyo: For the basics GPE applications are just GTK applications... so you can use both plain C with GTK or libglade. |
| 20:20.07 | florian | ah right... the topic |
| 20:21.01 | florian | But apart from this there are quite some examples out there and #gpe :-) |
| 20:23.26 | florian | Skyhusker: ping |
| 20:27.33 | florian | I just ran into a new situation... do i want to port a maemo application to GPE? :-) |
| 20:28.46 | koen|tv | florian: which one? |
| 20:29.22 | florian | koen|tv: The plucker reader... it is easy and we could need it, really. |
| 20:29.33 | koen|tv | fbreader or the nils-ware? |
| 20:29.52 | florian | nils one |
| 20:40.17 | reenoo | koen|tv: do you have a current feed somewhere? |
| 20:42.58 | koen|tv | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:43.16 | koen|tv | or ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/feed/ |
| 20:43.27 | reenoo | ok, thanks |
| 20:43.49 | reenoo | does either of those include the working gpe-bootsplash? |
| 20:44.14 | koen|tv | the first should have the working one |
| 20:44.38 | reenoo | cool |
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| 21:03.57 | reenoo | florian: can you think of anything that would make gpe-login hang on startup? |
| 21:04.40 | florian | reenoo: does it display anything? |
| 21:04.47 | reenoo | no |
| 21:05.06 | reenoo | I have a nice black background X server |
| 21:05.12 | reenoo | and that's about it |
| 21:05.19 | koen|tv | keylaunch? |
| 21:05.32 | reenoo | not running AFAICT |
| 21:05.51 | koen|tv | right, that was for the hang after logging in |
| 21:05.58 | florian | reenoo: With some luck you get some output running gpe-dm from a console |
| 21:06.26 | reenoo | well |
| 21:06.33 | reenoo | I am running it from the console |
| 21:06.44 | reenoo | I think so anyway |
| 21:06.56 | reenoo | currently upgrading gpe-login |
| 21:09.50 | koen|tv | 'night all |
| 21:14.37 | reenoo | at least gpe-bootsplash works again |
| 21:17.17 | florian | thats some good news :-) |
| 21:17.30 | reenoo | does gpe-login read any config files? |
| 21:18.45 | florian | Hmm... it reads the ownerinfo data and the locale definitions. |
| 21:22.10 | reenoo | no ownerinfo present |
| 21:23.01 | florian | hmm right, the default stuff is not read from file. |
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| 21:24.50 | reenoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:25.03 | reenoo | looks like it's in an infinite loop |
| 21:26.19 | florian | hmm... i suspect a problem with the i18n stuff :-/ |
| 21:26.52 | reenoo | well. this is still the old image |
| 21:26.59 | reenoo | all I did was *reboot* |
| 21:28.05 | florian | hmm well... that's strange indeed. I tested gpe-login on my 0.8.2 ipaq. |
| 21:44.16 | reenoo | still no go :( |
| 21:47.05 | florian | Which bits did you update? |
| 21:47.56 | reenoo | compared to 0.8.2? |
| 21:48.09 | reenoo | can't tell really |
| 21:49.14 | florian | in the last update step before reboot. |
| 21:49.24 | florian | that would be the most interesting... |
| 21:49.39 | reenoo | no idea. that was days ago |
| 21:50.54 | florian | :-/ |
| 21:52.22 | reenoo | Program received signal SIGINT, Interrupt. |
| 21:52.22 | reenoo | 0x40342f08 in gdkx_visual_get () from /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 |
| 21:52.30 | reenoo | that's where it's hanging it seems |
| 21:53.24 | florian | hmm... that doesn't look like a problem with a config file. |
| 21:56.32 | reenoo | downgrading gtk+ now... |
| 21:56.43 | reenoo | ~stab ipkg |
| 21:56.44 | ibot | ACTION runs at ipkg with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 21:57.31 | reenoo | ipkg needs a list_upgraded command or something |
| 21:57.43 | reenoo | and some major speedup |
| 21:58.16 | reenoo | it doesn't have to read its entire db just to output usage info... |
| 21:58.35 | florian | hmm right... ipkg could need some improvements. |
| 22:01.14 | reenoo | that did the trick |
| 22:01.52 | reenoo | seems like we have a problem with either gtk+ or gdk-pixbuf-loader-gif |
| 22:02.03 | florian | hah |
| 22:02.03 | reenoo | 2.6.7-r1 |
| 22:19.12 | reenoo | arrrgh |
| 22:19.19 | reenoo | ipkg_conf_write_status_files: Can't open status file: //usr/lib/ipkg/status for writing: No space left on device |
| 22:20.03 | florian | uh no! |
| 22:23.07 | reenoo | oh fun |
| 22:23.18 | reenoo | ~lart ipkg for shooting itself in the foot |
| 22:24.04 | reenoo | it downloaded the package lists to /usr |
| 22:24.18 | reenoo | even though I had symlinks pointing to /tmp |
| 22:24.28 | florian | eeks |
| 22:24.35 | florian | that must be a baad bug |
| 22:25.00 | reenoo | no, that's Pigi insisting on saving in /usr |
| 22:25.16 | reenoo | I'll patch that for familiar |
| 22:25.22 | florian | :-) |
| 22:25.34 | florian | that might be safer... |
| 22:38.37 | reenoo | I take it the new gpe icon is part of gpe-icons? |
| 22:38.50 | reenoo | (the one gpe-login displays) |
| 22:39.30 | florian | right |
| 22:50.23 | reenoo | ah, much better :) |
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| 23:09.18 | florian | Hrm... reading the "volume" property from the volume component it is alawys 0 and causes broken sound. |
| 23:30.29 | reenoo | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.4343.png |
| 23:31.06 | reenoo | I would have expected that bug to be fixed by now |
| 23:34.12 | florian | Indeed... i wonder what is causing this effect. |
| 23:34.30 | reenoo | xrandr |
| 23:35.14 | reenoo | switch to landscape -> lock -> unlock -> switch back to portrait -> lock |
| 23:35.33 | reenoo | and you're locked out ;) |
| 23:35.47 | florian | Hmm... here it works :-/ |
| 23:36.11 | reenoo | with the above procedure? |
| 23:37.06 | reenoo | I've been able to trigger it that way reproducably since familiar 0.7.2 |
| 23:41.35 | florian | oops... now i broke it. i forgot to lock one time. |
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| 23:42.56 | florian | hi jamey, hi jamey_ |
| 23:42.59 | florian | :-) |
| 23:44.31 | reenoo | Eina? |
| 23:45.16 | florian | reenoo: http://bolgo.cent.uji.es/proyectos/eina |
| 23:45.31 | florian | A pretty nice audio player. |
| 23:46.18 | florian | The UI is more or less useless... very gnomeish, but the backend library looks interesting. |
| 23:52.01 | reenoo | I like the GUI actually |
| 23:52.39 | reenoo | with a minor cleanup and the libgnomeui removed... |
| 23:52.51 | reenoo | s/libgnomeui/libgnomeui dependency/ |
| 23:53.45 | reenoo | as far as the backend is concerned it's probably just using a playbin |
| 23:53.45 | florian | yes... it looks pretty nice. hmm... maybe a job for the hacker meeting later :-) |
| 23:54.01 | florian | first some sleep... good night! |
| 23:54.05 | mreimer | good night florian |
| 23:54.05 | reenoo | good call |
| 23:54.09 | reenoo | 'night florian |
