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| 00:39.04 | univac | mhm |
| 00:39.21 | univac | the alsa doesn't work on h3800 |
| 00:39.53 | univac | i have input/output error for /dev/dsp |
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| 04:11.36 | Kompo | koen|sleep: I've the current WebKit cvs version of WebCore re-ported to gtk. Being such a creative man that I am, it's called webkit-gtk |
| 04:12.13 | Kompo | koen|sleep: It uses libsoup, but as it is, it's really rewrite of the most of the port that got done in gtk-webcore |
| 04:12.47 | Kompo | koen|sleep: currently it's more or less the functionality that there was in gtk-webcore, but a bit less crashes.. |
| 04:14.42 | Kompo | koen|sleep: form POST submissions and frames are lacking, which makes it unusable. but other than that, it really rocks. |
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| 06:44.20 | lucasvo | hello |
| 06:47.14 | rob_w | hi all |
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| 08:00.59 | reenoo | ~mornings |
| 08:01.00 | ibot | Mornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/) |
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| 08:36.37 | jsmanrique | hi |
| 08:39.04 | koen | good morning all |
| 08:39.20 | koen | Kompo: that's good to hear! |
| 08:42.28 | reenoo | hi jsmanrique |
| 08:42.30 | reenoo | morning koen |
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| 08:55.56 | reenoo | moin florian |
| 09:01.19 | reenoo | later all |
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| 09:23.03 | pH5 | good morning |
| 09:29.33 | koen | hey pH5 |
| 09:29.49 | pH5 | hi koen |
| 09:30.39 | pH5 | koen: found any new annoyances in the hx4700 gpe image? |
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| 09:32.08 | pH5 | pb_: the gpe-bluetooth sdp browser doesn't seem to work here. |
| 09:32.12 | koen|hx | not yet |
| 09:32.21 | pH5 | pb_: sdptool browse on the command line shows all services of my mobile phone, but the gpe-bt menus are empty. any ideas? |
| 09:32.30 | pH5 | koen: good :) |
| 09:39.09 | pb_ | pH5: so, the device shows up in the browse window, but there are no services listed in the popup menu? |
| 09:42.20 | pH5 | pb_: exactly. there is only the "details..." entry. but sdptool shows dun/irmc/obex etc. |
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| 09:48.54 | pb_ | that is rather odd. |
| 09:48.58 | pb_ | can you mail me the output from sdptool? |
| 09:49.30 | pb_ | ("sdptool browse --tree", ideally) |
| 09:52.50 | koen|hx | found one: bt doesn't work using the applet |
| 09:54.18 | koen|hx | probably because the blueprobe patch isn't in |
| 09:57.15 | lardman | pb_: would you be the man to talk to about xst problems? |
| 09:57.50 | pb_ | in florian's absence, probably |
| 09:58.23 | pb_ | pH5: thanks for the mail. I'll see if I can figure out what's wrong with gpe-bluetooth. |
| 09:58.27 | pH5 | pb_: ok, mail sent. |
| 09:58.34 | pH5 | koen|hx: that's right |
| 09:59.59 | lardman | pb_: okay: Logged in as non-root, when I click okay on the look & feel dialog I get a number of error messages, all the same: xst failed with return code 256 |
| 10:00.03 | pH5 | pb_: can this patch be applied? http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1398 |
| 10:01.37 | pH5 | pb_: thanks |
| 10:03.37 | pb_ | yeah, that patch looks fine to me |
| 10:03.42 | pb_ | I'll check it in later today |
| 10:03.48 | pb_ | lardman: ah, that is a gpe-conf problem |
| 10:03.49 | pH5 | great |
| 10:03.55 | pb_ | you do need florian for that one |
| 10:04.48 | lardman | pb_: Okay, thanks |
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| 10:05.55 | florian_hrz | re |
| 10:07.40 | pH5 | hey florian_hrz |
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| 10:08.53 | pH5 | florian_hrz: this is for you: http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1383 |
| 10:08.57 | pH5 | hi reenoo |
| 10:09.07 | reenoo|OL | re |
| 10:09.11 | reenoo|OL | hey pH5 |
| 10:09.33 | florian_hrz | hi pH5, hi reenoo|OL |
| 10:09.58 | reenoo|OL | hey florian_hrz |
| 10:10.45 | lardman | hi florian_hrz, can I pick your brain re a gpe-conf bug? |
| 10:11.08 | florian_hrz | reenoo|OL: I won't make it to OL this time :-( My car is broken and i need to find a new one :-( |
| 10:11.28 | florian_hrz | pH5: uh... let me see |
| 10:11.34 | florian_hrz | lardman: yep... |
| 10:11.44 | pH5 | florian_hrz: thx |
| 10:11.52 | lardman | florian_hrz: Logged in as non-root, when I click okay on the look & feel dialog I get a number of error messages, all the same: xst failed with return code 256 |
| 10:13.14 | florian_hrz | lardman: That indicates that it doesn't find xst... can you run it from a terminal? |
| 10:13.20 | reenoo|OL | florian_hrz: oh dear. what a pity |
| 10:13.38 | lardman | yes I can run xst, though I don;'t know what to pass it to see if it'll then complain |
| 10:17.36 | florian_hrz | reenoo|OL: yes indeed... the intention was to get it repaired while i'm in China, but it turned out that it is too expensive... |
| 10:18.06 | pb_ | florian_hrz: good morning |
| 10:18.12 | pb_ | sorry to hear about your vehicle |
| 10:18.19 | florian_hrz | pH5: I think i can apply that :-) |
| 10:18.26 | florian_hrz | lardman: xst read |
| 10:18.30 | pH5 | florian_hrz: yay |
| 10:18.34 | florian_hrz | pb_: hey! |
| 10:18.39 | reenoo|OL | morning pb_ |
| 10:19.07 | reenoo|OL | pb_: kind regards from joey btw |
| 10:19.56 | lardman | florian_hrz: xst read <something>? In any case 'xst read' works, but returns nothing |
| 10:20.55 | florian_hrz | pb_: indeed... the guy in the repair shop said that it will be hard to find something with a similar good quality :-/ |
| 10:21.25 | florian_hrz | reenoo|OL: oh right... some greetings to Joey! |
| 10:21.54 | florian_hrz | lardman: that should read all... that indicates that nothing is set. very suspicious... |
| 10:22.10 | florian_hrz | lardman: is the filesystem full? |
| 10:22.46 | lardman | florian_hrz: nope, 6444Kb free on / |
| 10:23.29 | florian_hrz | lardman: where is your xst? |
| 10:24.01 | lardman | florian_hrz: /usr/bin/xst |
| 10:25.36 | florian_hrz | hrm |
| 10:26.25 | florian_hrz | lardman: Sounds like your settings database was damaged, but i can't imagine having seen this before. |
| 10:26.26 | lardman | florian_hrz: If I 'su -' then run xst read as root, I get "Cannot connect to X server on display ." |
| 10:27.09 | florian_hrz | lardman: yes... then DISPLAY" isn't set... but that shouldn't be necessary anyway. |
| 10:27.45 | lardman | florian_hrz: If I export DISPLAY=:0.0, then xst read returns nothing |
| 10:27.52 | florian_hrz | lardman: i guess it will work for any other user than the one you currently use. |
| 10:28.13 | lardman | florian_hrz: I only have root as the other user, and I think it does work |
| 10:28.34 | florian_hrz | lardman: maybe add a user and log in one time and copy the xsettings stuff to your default user. |
| 10:28.57 | lardman | florian_hrz: This is stuff in ~/ ? |
| 10:29.37 | florian_hrz | lardman: iirc ~/.gpe/xsettings |
| 10:29.43 | lardman | florian_hrz: I'm not too bothered, it's just that this is straight after a flash, so I thought perhaps someone else might have seen it too |
| 10:30.01 | florian_hrz | lardman: thats indeed strange... |
| 10:30.14 | lardman | florian_hrz: But perhaps I've got some jffs2 issues, I'll have to try re-creating the settings |
| 10:31.10 | pb_ | reenoo|OL: good morning! |
| 10:37.44 | koen|hx | pH5: does sound work for you? |
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| 10:42.53 | pH5 | koen|hx: let me try that... |
| 10:47.20 | pH5 | koen|hx: gpe-nmf / gstreamer seem to have some problems :( but cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp works |
| 10:48.28 | koen|hx | ok, I tested with nmf |
| 10:50.16 | florian_hrz | pH5: its in |
| 10:57.58 | pH5 | florian_hrz: thanks! |
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| 11:57.48 | reenoo|OL | ~seen nelson |
| 11:57.53 | ibot | nelson is currently on #handhelds.org (1d 15h 38m 16s). Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 20h 15s |
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| 12:07.11 | KiBi | Hi. |
| 12:07.45 | koen|hx | hey kibi |
| 12:08.10 | KiBi | I'd like to know whether Philippe is there often or not. |
| 12:08.22 | koen|hx | he is |
| 12:08.47 | koen|hx | mostly in the evening (finland) |
| 12:08.48 | KiBi | I read on an irc log that he made Debian packages of JSCore, NRCit & NRCore. I'm interested in. |
| 12:09.03 | KiBi | Ok, I'll wait, then. Thanks. |
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| 12:11.18 | koen|hx | http://handhelds.org/~philippe/maemo/ |
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| 12:12.04 | KiBi | Oh, perfect. |
| 12:12.05 | koen|hx | but those are probably for the maemo sdk |
| 12:12.23 | koen|hx | hey florian_kc |
| 12:12.59 | KiBi | I wish there were sources too, I could try to build on my (i386) box to help checking deps & so on. |
| 12:13.36 | florian_kc | re |
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| 12:41.27 | koen | gtk stylus mode 'proposal' : http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2005-September/msg00126.html |
| 12:43.23 | florian_kc | Sounds very promising... |
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| 12:58.21 | florian_kc | koen: Did you update any maemo stuff in oe while i was away? |
| 13:00.35 | koen | florian_kc: ony gpe-contacts and gpe-mini-browser |
| 13:00.45 | koen | florian_kc: I'm waiting for the 'official' release |
| 13:00.52 | koen | only* |
| 13:03.17 | florian_kc | koen: ah okay... looks like i need to update the theming stuff. |
| 13:11.07 | reenoo|OL | bleh |
| 13:11.17 | reenoo|OL | this crap refuses to work |
| 13:11.30 | reenoo|OL | ~lart libglade |
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| 14:01.33 | koen | florian_kc: gpe/html/devmanual/environment.sgml: .basrc -> .bashrc |
| 14:05.40 | lucasvo | koen: are there any infos how to fix the buttons on hx4700? |
| 14:09.28 | pH5 | lucasvo: the fix went into cvs earlier today. you could try with this package: |
| 14:09.34 | pH5 | lucasvo: http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~zabel/hx4700/feed/xserver-common_1.1-r3_armv5te.ipk |
| 14:12.05 | ||cw | whops, sent that to the wrong list... |
| 14:12.23 | ||cw | would be nice of the listserv set the reply address as the list |
| 14:12.59 | ||cw | koen: there is a bug (or more) assigned to gpe@handhelds.org |
| 14:13.05 | ||cw | this is desired? |
| 14:13.19 | ||cw | to have bugs assigned to the listserv address? |
| 14:13.45 | ||cw | so that everyone on the list gets told about this outstanding bug once a week? |
| 14:13.54 | koen | once a day, yes |
| 14:14.45 | ||cw | i totaly don't understand the reason for this |
| 14:16.14 | ||cw | what's to stop someone from submiting a password request, taking the passwd from the list, and doing some odd things to the bigs? |
| 14:16.16 | ||cw | bugs/ |
| 14:16.21 | florian_kc | koen: thanks |
| 14:16.35 | ||cw | would you like me to prove my point? |
| 14:16.37 | koen | the bugzilla admins and our faithfull readers |
| 14:16.48 | ||cw | so passwords aren't just emailed out... |
| 14:17.11 | koen | they are |
| 14:17.19 | koen | but it's pretty obvious when that happens |
| 14:17.23 | ||cw | sure |
| 14:17.40 | koen | and it's pretty easy to ban people who try it with malicious intent |
| 14:17.53 | ||cw | of course |
| 14:18.18 | koen | we still have HP's legal depeartment behind us |
| 14:18.43 | univac | mhm |
| 14:19.15 | univac | i have familiar noewest gpe snapshot and sound doesn't work |
| 14:19.21 | ade|desk | koen: for how long ? |
| 14:19.33 | koen | ade|desk: exactly |
| 14:19.44 | univac | when i playing mp3 by madplay or `cat foo > /dev/dsp` i have write error to /dev/dsp |
| 14:19.47 | lucasvo | pH5: ok thanks |
| 14:20.39 | koen | florian_kc: I updated http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GPEToFixFor2_2e7 with some more bugs and links to bugzilla |
| 14:20.46 | reenoo|OL | univac: suspend/resume and it will work. ugly, I know. but we don't have a fix yet |
| 14:21.10 | univac | reenoo|OL: thanks |
| 14:21.22 | univac | and gpe bluetooth applet can't start bluetooth |
| 14:21.36 | univac | i must srat it by hand in /etc/bluetootg/hciattach.sh |
| 14:21.38 | univac | start* |
| 14:22.12 | florian_kc | koen: great... let me see |
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| 15:07.57 | johbrahms | Hi. I've just managed to build gpe-mini-browser and it's working great. Are there any config options? eg: loading images |
| 15:09.09 | florian_kc | hi johbrahms |
| 15:09.38 | pH5 | johbrahms: to load images, you need to have the gdk-pixbuf-loader-<format> packages installed. |
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| 15:09.59 | florian_kc | indeed....+ |
| 15:10.12 | florian_kc | koobla|vienna: hi |
| 15:10.22 | koobla|vienna | hi florian_kc ! |
| 15:10.36 | florian_kc | hmm.. vienna would be worth another trip as well. |
| 15:10.51 | koobla|vienna | nice town, yes :) |
| 15:10.59 | koobla|vienna | but i am here for work... |
| 15:11.14 | koobla|vienna | at least nice evenings :) |
| 15:11.33 | johbrahms | pH5: I've got jpeg, png and xpm installed, but no logo at google.com |
| 15:11.51 | pH5 | johbrahms: gif? |
| 15:11.58 | KiBi | Yep, that's a gif. |
| 15:12.11 | johbrahms | shall try that one |
| 15:12.50 | florian_kc | koobla|vienna: Indeed... i have some relevants in that area :-) |
| 15:13.18 | koobla|vienna | nice -- where do you live? |
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| 15:14.20 | florian_kc | koobla|vienna: Siegen, Germany :-) |
| 15:15.17 | johbrahms | no - still no images of any format |
| 15:17.11 | koobla|vienna | florian_kc: I see - thats a good bit away - you need to drive by Linz then when going to vienna - that's where I live |
| 15:17.37 | koobla|vienna | must be rushing... |
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| 15:51.27 | florian_kc | bbl |
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| 16:04.17 | koen_ | pH5: is http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GPEToFixFor2_2e7 up to date for the hx ? |
| 16:06.08 | pH5 | koen_: we need a new xserver-common release with the fix floran committed earlier today |
| 16:06.44 | pH5 | koen_: other than that, alsa support seems to be missing |
| 16:06.59 | koen_ | that's a familiar issue IMO |
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| 16:09.15 | pH5 | koen_: 2.7 will still use the old dbus, right? |
| 16:09.50 | reenoo|OL | right |
| 16:10.17 | koen_ | pH5: yes |
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| 16:10.44 | pH5 | koen_: there's the issue with the hx4700 power off key |
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| 16:14.38 | rob_w-BA | how is it going |
| 16:14.49 | tigrux | koen_: ping |
| 16:17.25 | tigrux | koen_: I found an appartment which has all the services, including cable. 14 eur per day. It is Gunnar Wolf's house, one of the mexican official developers of Debian. |
| 16:27.54 | koen_ | tigrux: ah, very cool |
| 16:30.17 | tigrux | koen_: If you think it is expensive, then just say it. It is the proper moment. |
| 16:30.50 | tigrux | koen_: Actually, ot his house. An appartment next to his house. |
| 16:31.02 | tigrux | * it's not his .... |
| 16:32.07 | koen_ | tigrux: 14 euro a day is pretty cheap IMO |
| 16:32.56 | tigrux | koen_: Excellent. |
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| 17:26.01 | lardman|work | night all |
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| 17:30.57 | fng_sma | hello |
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| 17:31.58 | koen | hey fng_sma |
| 17:32.05 | fng_sma | koen: new bugs? |
| 17:32.06 | koen | sorry to spoil you bugfree day |
| 17:33.05 | fng_sma | I knew I shoudln't go into irc! |
| 17:33.15 | koen | I was talking about yesterday :) |
| 17:33.44 | fng_sma | oh, okay... I got over it. |
| 17:34.01 | koen | the only issues I see and the first/lastname switch inside gpe-contacts (but not evo!) and the ignore behaviour you pointed out on the mailinglist |
| 17:35.01 | fng_sma | koen: I talked to the opensync people and they told me it's an issue with opensync. But they already found a way how to fix it, so this shouldn't be a problem for too long. |
| 17:35.28 | koen | fng_sma: I'm subscribed to the opensync list too :) |
| 17:35.54 | fng_sma | oh, okay :-). The only missing thing is the "take Newer" option. That doesn't work because libmimedir doesn't have support for the LAST-MODIFIED: Tag in vevents and vtodos. |
| 17:36.55 | fng_sma | and then we only have some non working fields and the timezone, but the notes are working, so until the fields work, you can store all the missing information in the notes. |
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| 17:58.17 | koen | tigrux-burger: National Geographic is broadcasting a special about mexico city right now :) |
| 17:59.47 | koen | fng_sma: any news from the libmimedir maintainer? |
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| 18:05.29 | fng_sma | koen: no, not really. I'll send him an icq message. |
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| 18:17.18 | florian | re |
| 18:18.31 | koen | hey florian |
| 18:18.52 | fng_sma | hi florian |
| 18:19.02 | koen | fng_sma: should I bug florian about the reversal of first and last name? |
| 18:20.56 | fng_sma | koen: can you explain it to me again? |
| 18:21.21 | koen | gpe-contacts -i koen.vcf |
| 18:21.29 | koen | and suddenly my first name is kooi |
| 18:21.33 | koen | sync to evo |
| 18:21.41 | koen | and evo says my last name is kooi |
| 18:22.10 | fng_sma | koen: sounds like fun. Looks like a smaller bug in gpe-contacts. |
| 18:22.29 | fng_sma | I'll have a look at it... |
| 18:22.47 | koen | if I edit the card in gpe-contacts to have the correct name and sync, evo will still show the right thing |
| 18:26.42 | lucasvo | what is the usbf NIC? |
| 18:27.27 | mreimer | lucasvo: I think it's usbnet on 2.4 kernels |
| 18:27.59 | lucasvo | mreimer: and which one is the usbnet on 2.6? |
| 18:28.06 | mreimer | usb0 |
| 18:28.38 | lucasvo | mreimer: but there isn't any ifconfig :( what commandline tool is normally installed? |
| 18:29.04 | mreimer | lucasvo: ifconfig should be in /sbin/ifconfig |
| 18:29.12 | pH5 | lucasvo: i bet there is ifconfig, it's just your path |
| 18:29.50 | lucasvo | pH5: export PATH = $PATH:/sbin/ ? |
| 18:30.49 | lucasvo | mreimer: yeah it is in sbin |
| 18:31.24 | lucasvo | is it a bug that the clock-cursors isn't hidden when the cpu is loaded 100%? |
| 18:31.57 | fng_sma | koen: I can't reproduce it. Where do you get your vcards from? |
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| 18:36.38 | koen | one moment |
| 18:38.52 | koen | fng_sma: try http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/Kooi%20Koen.vcf |
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| 18:40.13 | florian | lucasvo: I think so, but i don't really know who to blame for that. |
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| 18:40.21 | fng_sma | koen: wahooo! I even get a segfault... |
| 18:40.31 | koen | :) |
| 18:40.43 | florian | fng_sma: use latest libmimedir, that was fixed some days ago. |
| 18:40.45 | koen | my famous vcard-of-death |
| 18:41.07 | fng_sma | koen: did you try to sync it over the plugin? |
| 18:41.35 | koen | I started with a empty db, imported the vcard in gpe-contacts and synced |
| 18:43.05 | koen | evo displays it correctly |
| 18:43.15 | koen | even after correcting the names in gpe-contacts |
| 18:44.04 | lucas | what is networkshield exactly? |
| 18:44.16 | koen | a firewall editor |
| 18:44.40 | lucas | koen: ehm iptables? |
| 18:45.02 | fng_sma | koen: could you also import it in evolution and sync it with gpe? |
| 18:46.07 | koen | lucas: yes |
| 18:46.16 | lucas | koen: ah ok |
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| 18:51.29 | Philippe_laptop | evening |
| 18:51.30 | florian | hey Philippe_laptop |
| 18:51.34 | koen | hey Philippe_laptop |
| 18:51.42 | Philippe_laptop | hey florian & koen |
| 18:51.44 | fng_sma | hi Philippe_laptop |
| 18:52.12 | Philippe_laptop | florian, back in .DE? |
| 18:53.03 | KiBi | Hi Philippe_laptop. |
| 18:53.18 | KiBi | I read on an irc log that you made Debian packages of JSCore, NRCit & NRCore. I'm interested in. |
| 18:54.04 | Philippe_laptop | KiBi, let me take a look if I have them handy. (I am in the process of moving and only my laptop is functional for the moment |
| 18:54.46 | KiBi | Philippe_laptop: That's not urgent. Feel free to query me on freenode at any time if you want to talk about them. |
| 18:55.06 | KiBi | I'd be pleased to help checking your packages (dependencies & so on...). |
| 18:55.13 | florian | Philippe_laptop: yes right... |
| 18:55.33 | Philippe_laptop | KiBi, great :-) |
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| 19:00.24 | mreimer | florian: a week or two ago I changed instances of mbcontrol (now obsolete) to matchbox-remote in gpe-conf/data/key-{commands,layout}, so those keys should work out of the box now. Does a new release need to be made, or can the newer source be pushed? |
| 19:01.05 | florian | mreimer: i'll make a new release soon |
| 19:01.13 | mreimer | florian: thanks |
| 19:01.33 | mreimer | florian: did you fix that "gpe-conf theme" problem? |
| 19:03.55 | Philippe_laptop | KiBi, it will be for another. I don't have it on my laptop and I don't know how fast I will have internet at my new place. |
| 19:04.46 | KiBi | Philippe_laptop: Can I ask you to notify me by mail once you're ok, please? I'll be offline for some days... |
| 19:11.43 | Philippe_laptop | KiBi, well I'll need your e-mail for that. :-) |
| 19:12.09 | KiBi | Well, perfect ;) |
| 19:13.25 | KiBi | I got a i386 box to try to compile, and I might got a powerpc one soon. |
| 19:14.04 | univac | monotone: bytes in | bytes out | certs in | revs in | revs written |
| 19:14.04 | univac | monotone: 30.8M | 1.0M | 9286 | 2404 | 1283 |
| 19:14.13 | univac | it working 5 hours :S |
| 19:14.15 | Philippe_laptop | Ok. Got it. It works on x86 and ARM so powerpc should not be an issue. I need to try it on X86_64 once. |
| 19:15.25 | Philippe_laptop | univac, use a multi-processor machine... That way you still have some cpu to do something else |
| 19:15.57 | univac | i have athlon 1,8ghz... |
| 19:16.04 | koen | univac: #oe |
| 19:16.40 | univac | i know... ;p |
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| 20:27.00 | mimecar | evening |
| 20:27.14 | florian | hi mimecar |
| 20:27.26 | mimecar | hi florian |
| 20:27.48 | mimecar | will be gpe 2.7 release on 1 of octuber ? |
| 20:28.38 | koen | I suspect a few weeks later |
| 20:28.44 | florian | uh.. thats a good question |
| 20:28.48 | koen | november/december |
| 20:28.48 | florian | yeah |
| 20:29.08 | koen | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GPEToFixFor2_2e7 |
| 20:29.27 | mimecar | ok |
| 20:29.47 | florian | koen: yes, this one :-) |
| 20:29.49 | mimecar | where's the active bug list for 2.7 ? |
| 20:31.33 | florian | koen: did you add this bug about gpe-login theme? |
| 20:35.01 | koen | florian: yes |
| 20:38.47 | Philippe_laptop | anybody news if there is confirmation of mallum on a new matchbox-wm release? |
| 20:38.54 | koen | nope |
| 20:39.00 | koen | still soon(TM) |
| 20:41.22 | Philippe_laptop | koen, where can I find the latest cvs? So I can try to fix that gpe-bootsplash error? And do you happen to have the error output lying around somewhere. |
| 20:42.10 | koen | which cvs? |
| 20:43.01 | koen | familiar will probably wait for eabi |
| 20:43.19 | Philippe_laptop | koen: cairo cvs as stated in the bugreport |
| 20:43.26 | pH5 | koen: how long might this take, eabi? |
| 20:43.31 | koen | that bug report is pretty old |
| 20:43.52 | koen | Philippe_laptop: try to build bootsplash with 0.5.2 |
| 20:44.21 | koen | pH5: no idea, you'd have to ask the arm/glibc maintainer |
| 20:44.32 | fng_sma | koen: I guess I found the bug :-) |
| 20:44.33 | koen | pH5: also known as pb_ :) |
| 20:44.49 | Philippe_laptop | koen ok.... I meant this bugreport http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1331. Which is only a few days old |
| 20:45.33 | koen | 'Opened: 2005-05-12 05:32' |
| 20:46.10 | fng_sma | koen: If you open your vcard you can see the tag FN:Kooi Koen and this is the value that will be listed in gpe-contacts. So actually there is no spoon, ... erm BUG! |
| 20:46.52 | koen | and the LN tag should be the reverse |
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| 20:48.05 | koen | fng_sma: wouldn't it be better to use N:Kooi;Koen;;; ? |
| 20:49.54 | fng_sma | koen: but it depends on the program which is creating the vcard. I think it's okay the way it is, since FN is described as the "name of the object the vCard represents". |
| 20:50.12 | fng_sma | koen: is the vcard your killer-vcard created by your mac? |
| 20:50.20 | koen | yes |
| 20:52.11 | fng_sma | koen: don't use a mac. |
| 20:52.24 | koen | heh |
| 20:53.19 | Philippe_laptop | gpe-bootsplash in cvs is that the same as gpe-bootsplash2? |
| 20:53.36 | mimecar-cenando | is there some password notepad application ? |
| 20:54.01 | koen | mimecar-cenando: moliver was working on one |
| 20:54.18 | fng_sma | mimecar-cenando: oh yeah, I miss something like that, too. (hi by the way). |
| 20:54.22 | koen | http://themac.club.fr/dotclear/index.php?Mo-keyring |
| 20:54.44 | mimecar-cenando | gnome-keyring is on the feed |
| 20:54.55 | mimecar-cenando | but doesn't install any program |
| 20:55.03 | mimecar-cenando | see you later |
| 20:55.45 | koen | Philippe_laptop: OE use gpe-bootsplash-1.14 |
| 20:56.20 | Philippe_laptop | koen, ok thanks. |
| 20:56.47 | florian | koen: Hmm well.. i disagree, we might discuss about the colour but imho the login dialog should not depend on the selected theme of one user. |
| 20:57.37 | fng_sma | koen: from who is that page? |
| 20:58.19 | florian | mreimer: I'd rather try to avoid it where ever possible, softfloat is some kind of improvement but currently it breaks compatibility. |
| 20:58.26 | koen | fng_sma: moliver on irc |
| 20:58.29 | koen | ~seen moliver |
| 20:58.32 | ibot | i haven't seen 'moliver', koen |
| 20:58.35 | koen | ~seen molivier |
| 20:58.36 | ibot | molivier <n=mac@212.195.181.7> was last seen on IRC in channel #gpe, 3d 1h 35m 42s ago, saying: 'hi all'. |
| 20:59.26 | koen | florian: not the theme from the user, but either plain gtk or the 'default' theme |
| 20:59.32 | fng_sma | that mo-keyring looks good to me. |
| 21:01.14 | florian | That looks nice, but he doesn't seem to open the source :-( |
| 21:01.27 | fng_sma | florian: oh, why? |
| 21:01.57 | florian | koen: hmm... thats boring imho. |
| 21:02.51 | fng_sma | What about using clearlooks as default gtk theme for the user *and* the login? |
| 21:03.13 | florian | Maybe just because he is not used to open source... |
| 21:03.17 | koen | florian: the blue makes users think something is broken |
| 21:03.35 | fng_sma | koen: no, it's a different blue ;) |
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| 21:04.13 | koen | I'd vote for consistency, make login behave the same way as the default for a new user |
| 21:04.29 | koen | or re-introduce the hand-logo background |
| 21:04.45 | florian | fng_sma: maybe... but iirc clearlooks is much slower than the default theme. |
| 21:05.45 | florian | koen: That would be the first complain about that. I'd rather like to have this marked as something special. |
| 21:06.00 | fng_sma | florian: okay, is there another theme, that looks a bit nice than the default and isn't much slower? |
| 21:06.15 | koen | I've heard many "what's wrong with the login, it's blue" type questions |
| 21:06.44 | florian | koen: But usually because people don't like this colour :-) |
| 21:07.33 | florian | koen: Fixing the background image would be much better, but i don't know if this is easy. |
| 21:07.35 | koen | face* |
| 21:07.40 | florian | heh |
| 21:08.09 | koen | florian: it was there in the familiar 0.7.x days |
| 21:09.27 | fng_sma | Are there really people that using their pdas as multi user systems? |
| 21:10.28 | mreimer | I will probably share mine with my wife |
| 21:11.12 | florian | fng_sma: We have some simple themes which don't need an extra engine and are fast but not that nice. I played around with one some time ago (foxbox) using the smooth engine which is a little bit better and should be faster. |
| 21:11.31 | florian | koen: iirc that was some gtk2.0 issue |
| 21:11.38 | fng_sma | mreimer: Does she really want to use it? I mean my girlfriend still has no clue for what these things should be useful. |
| 21:11.50 | florian | fng_sma: yes... at our company we make use of this. |
| 21:11.59 | koen | fng_sma: 'lights out' and othello |
| 21:12.08 | florian | *g* |
| 21:12.21 | mreimer | fng_sma: yes, I think she's finally convinced it will be helpful. No matter how many notes and things are stuffed into it, it still looks just as tidy, compared to piles of papers here and there. :-) |
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| 21:13.27 | fng_sma | mreimer: happy man! |
| 21:13.33 | mreimer | :-) |
| 21:13.54 | koen | heh |
| 21:13.58 | koen | i have a pile of ipaqs :) |
| 21:14.28 | fng_sma | koen: oh yeah, I remember, she played tetris for quite some time, but when I restarted tetris all the highscore was gone. Since that she didn't touch it... |
| 21:14.44 | fng_sma | koen: where do you work? |
| 21:15.21 | koen | I worked at the uni for their ipaq project |
| 21:15.31 | koen | my contract ended but I still do some work for them |
| 21:15.46 | koen | In return I have unrestricted access to ewi546 :) |
| 21:16.03 | fng_sma | that's pretty cool! what kind of project do they have? |
| 21:16.34 | koen | a bluetooth pulse-oximeter and some cool positioning tools |
| 21:16.47 | koen | running opie..... |
| 21:16.59 | mimecar | koen: send me one ipaq ;) |
| 21:17.09 | Philippe_laptop | koen, could you try the latest version of gpe-bootsplash that is in cvs? Seems Florian fixed it... |
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| 21:17.59 | Philippe_laptop | If it works a new release should be made (with an updated image) |
| 21:18.10 | florian_ | re |
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| 21:18.34 | fng_sma | pb_: hello? |
| 21:18.41 | mimecar | hey fng_sma |
| 21:18.48 | fng_sma | hi mimecar |
| 21:19.28 | koen | Philippe_laptop: my main buildbox is down too |
| 21:19.41 | koen | Philippe_laptop: I'll try to build the cvs version tomorrow |
| 21:19.58 | koen | I hope it doesn't use that evil build/Makefile system... |
| 21:20.11 | fng_sma | koen: how do you build all that stuff? openembedded? |
| 21:20.16 | koen | fng_sma: yes |
| 21:22.46 | Philippe_laptop | koen, I am afraid soo.... just replace the splash.c file by the cvs one and restart the compile I would say. Quick and dirty... |
| 21:23.08 | mimecar | koen: is mo-keyring useble? |
| 21:24.05 | koen | mimecar: no idea, haven't used it |
| 21:24.18 | florian_ | pH5: Do you think it is a good idea to have the usb applet for gpe-conf in cvs? |
| 21:24.24 | mimecar | i'm downloading now |
| 21:26.36 | Philippe_laptop | I changed the splash2.png image to have gpe 2.7 instead of 2.1. Is that the bootsplash image? And can I just check it in? |
| 21:28.00 | florian_ | Philippe_laptop: png? iirc that was some svg... |
| 21:28.02 | pH5 | florian_: probably yes. this way at least we won't forget it. |
| 21:28.55 | Philippe_laptop | florian, ok. It seems then that the png I mentioned is some old remaining stuff then... maybe it should be removed then |
| 21:29.13 | pH5 | ~lart g_file_storage for failing on pxa270_udc |
| 21:29.20 | florian_ | pH5: okay... i'll take a look and check it in :-) |
| 21:30.04 | mimecar | how can i install a locak package with ipkg ? |
| 21:30.29 | pH5 | mimecar: ipkg install <filename> |
| 21:30.42 | mimecar | on the folder ? |
| 21:31.23 | koen | Philippe_laptop: the splash images are currently in OE, but I think pb said he'll put the 2.7 one in gpe-cvs |
| 21:31.44 | mimecar | thanks pH5 |
| 21:32.23 | Philippe_laptop | okay. If it compiles again (with cvs code) we will tickle pb_ to get a new release ready |
| 21:34.00 | mimecar | 'night Philippe_laptop |
| 21:34.07 | florian_ | Philippe_laptop: good night |
| 21:37.23 | fng_sma | I'll go to bed, too. Sleep well! |
| 21:37.40 | koen | 'night fng_sma |
| 21:38.45 | mimecar | koen: I'm running mo-keyring |
| 21:38.55 | mimecar | it looks cool on small devices |
| 21:39.23 | mimecar | it will a very usefull app for me |
| 21:41.32 | koen | the new splash.c doesn't work over here |
| 21:42.52 | mimecar | good night |
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| 21:57.22 | koen | 'night all |
| 21:57.36 | florian_ | koen: good night |
| 21:57.50 | florian_ | pH5: your patch is missing one bit: usb.h |
| 21:58.07 | pH5 | whoops |
| 22:05.01 | pH5 | florian_: I resent that mail to the mailing list with a new patch |
| 22:05.32 | florian_ | pH5: okay, great! |
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| 22:28.13 | florian_ | pb_: Did you manage to look at this icon issue in gpe-what? |
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| 22:41.26 | florian_ | good night |
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