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| 05:34.34 | Feral-Kid | Can someone guide me to a howto on how to connect my 5450 to my desktop to sync to envolution |
| 05:35.13 | Feral-Kid | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:43.32 | jsmanrique | morning! |
| 07:44.04 | koen | hey jsmanrique |
| 07:45.01 | jsmanrique | when gpe-filemanager will be ready to be added to gpe image? |
| 07:45.14 | jsmanrique | what's gpe mediaplayer?is there any? |
| 07:45.34 | jsmanrique | I am working in my GPE presentation/talk for a Colombian linux congress :) |
| 07:46.17 | koen | gpe-filemanafer is ready, it's just too big |
| 07:46.36 | koen | vlc-gpe and gxine are available |
| 07:46.36 | jsmanrique | talk will be by streaming, but not sure about what to use, flumotion? |
| 07:46.42 | koen | mplayer |
| 07:46.46 | jsmanrique | koen: ok |
| 07:46.58 | koen | that's the only thing that runs fast on an ipaq |
| 07:47.18 | koen | vlc-gpe hides the options, and gxine just doesn't work |
| 07:47.25 | jsmanrique | koen: I've tried installing gpe-filemanager and it complaints about gnome-vfs dependencies |
| 07:47.39 | koen | that's why it's too big |
| 07:47.44 | jsmanrique | koen: so, best option... mplayer, right? |
| 07:47.51 | koen | at the moment, yes |
| 08:04.35 | jsmanrique | ok |
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| 08:51.32 | bedboi | hi all |
| 08:51.44 | bedboi | ~lart ibot for not delivering my botmail |
| 08:53.39 | jsmanrique | hi bedboi |
| 08:55.16 | bedboi | i'm quite done with the algorithm to place events in day view |
| 08:55.21 | bedboi | it's really not trivial |
| 08:58.47 | bedboi | i'm reading GpeWishList |
| 08:59.44 | bedboi | in v3.0 there's a wish i think it's not that useful |
| 08:59.47 | bedboi | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:59.55 | bedboi | we have gaim |
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| 09:21.55 | koen | bedboi: http://pastebin.com/364373 |
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| 09:24.36 | koen | Remind me to tell bedboi ibot only works for registered freenode users |
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| 09:25.51 | bedboi | hi all |
| 09:28.02 | koen | bedboi: I think ibot doesn't work since you arent a registered freenode user |
| 09:28.45 | bedboi | yep |
| 09:28.57 | bedboi | i was larting myself |
| 09:29.14 | bedboi | ~lart myself for not reading freenode messages |
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| 09:32.11 | koen | pb_: martin is back from holidays |
| 09:32.22 | koen | which he told me to tell you :) |
| 09:32.28 | koen | and good morning of course |
| 09:36.06 | koen | bedboi: what do you think of http://pastebin.com/364373 ? |
| 09:36.56 | koen | bedboi: I think in C it will look nicer |
| 09:37.19 | pb_ | koen: very good |
| 09:44.39 | bedboi | koen: trying |
| 09:47.03 | bedboi | koen: why if(ev(n,1)>0) |
| 09:48.04 | bedboi | the first part of your algo is the simple stuff |
| 09:48.21 | bedboi | finding overlapping items |
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| 09:51.30 | koen | bedboi: I can't drop items from the list (the for loop blows up) so I flag them with (0,0) |
| 09:51.50 | koen | in C you can use linked list and jump to the next item, so that isn't a problem |
| 09:52.20 | bedboi | yes, that's not the problem |
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| 09:52.27 | bedboi | you have to: |
| 09:52.33 | bedboi | 1) find the width of each event |
| 09:52.37 | bedboi | 2) find the x offset |
| 09:52.48 | bedboi | try to do it with this: |
| 09:52.58 | bedboi | ev = [ 0 2 ; 1 5 ; 3 6 ; 5 7 ; 6 10 ; 11 15 ; 12 16]; |
| 09:53.01 | Philippe_work | hello guys |
| 09:53.02 | bedboi | i quite solved the problem |
| 09:53.12 | koen | hey Philippe_work & pH5 |
| 09:54.18 | bedboi | i can succesfull find all width |
| 09:54.32 | bedboi | i can find quite all x offset |
| 09:54.44 | bedboi | there's a subtle case where i still have to find a solution |
| 09:54.52 | bedboi | when you have something like |
| 09:55.18 | bedboi | (wait writing on pastebin) |
| 09:56.42 | bedboi | and you have to put |
| 09:56.43 | bedboi | http://pastebin.com/364397 |
| 09:56.53 | bedboi | [4, 6] |
| 09:57.00 | bedboi | ops |
| 09:57.03 | bedboi | [5,6] |
| 09:57.17 | bedboi | or [5, whathever] |
| 09:57.36 | bedboi | there are also more substle cases |
| 09:57.41 | pH5 | hey everyone |
| 09:59.56 | bedboi | http://pastebin.com/364400 <-- also this is problematic |
| 10:00.13 | bedboi | in inserting [4 , whatever] |
| 10:14.47 | koen | bedboi: http://pastebin.com/364404 |
| 10:30.05 | Philippe_work | damn cvstrac and timeline are down |
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| 10:32.13 | jsmanrique | hi |
| 10:32.46 | jsmanrique | I've just seen wooky presentation in debconf5 |
| 10:32.47 | jsmanrique | wow! |
| 10:32.50 | Philippe_work | hi jsmanrique |
| 10:33.07 | jsmanrique | that gui he uses is wonderful |
| 10:33.34 | Philippe_work | jsmanrique, if you want to discuss stuff about wookey's presentation get into #emdebian |
| 10:33.50 | Philippe_work | jsmanrique, which gui? |
| 10:34.27 | jsmanrique | I think it is a modification of matchbox, or something similar |
| 10:34.42 | jsmanrique | have you downloaded the video? have you been there? |
| 10:35.04 | Philippe_work | I've downloaded the video. Couldn't be there. overlapping stuff... |
| 10:36.10 | Philippe_work | It was in my interest as I am one of the overloaded people that tries to get emdebian going. |
| 10:36.38 | jsmanrique | :-) |
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| 10:41.25 | bedboi | koen: what's that |
| 10:41.26 | bedboi | ? |
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| 11:00.22 | koen | bedboi: a working algo? |
| 11:03.26 | koen | that gui, is that the psion gpe/matchbox thing? |
| 11:05.22 | jsmanrique | koen: I think so |
| 11:05.29 | bedboi | koen: it can't work for a generic case |
| 11:05.42 | bedboi | let's say you have N overlapping appointments |
| 11:06.21 | bedboi | how you fit the 4th overlapping event? |
| 11:06.42 | Philippe_work | jsmanrique, probabely if Wookey was showing off the netbook. |
| 11:07.38 | Philippe_work | I mean the gui thing is 9/10 the psion gpe/matchbox thing? |
| 11:10.19 | bedboi | Philippe_work, jsmanrique : url? |
| 11:11.39 | koen | bedboi: that's why you iterate till ev_overlap is empty |
| 11:11.48 | koen | I was just to lazy to make a function of it :) |
| 11:12.04 | koen | http://dc5video.debian.net/mpeg/2005-07-11/05-Embedded_Debian_Demo-Wookey.mpeg |
| 11:12.32 | jsmanrique | yes, it is a psion netbook |
| 11:17.27 | bedboi | going to eat |
| 11:18.49 | bedboi | bbl |
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| 11:59.16 | koen | pH5: what module needed to be added to ipaq-pxa270.conf to stop sound from oopsing? |
| 12:03.34 | pH5 | i2c-pxa |
| 12:04.25 | koen | not i2c_pxa? |
| 12:05.44 | pH5 | koen: it's called i2c-pxa.ko, the package name is kernel-module-i2c-pxa-2.6 |
| 12:05.50 | koen | ok |
| 12:10.30 | koen | pH5: 14:09 < CIA-4> koen org.oe.dev * r93e4964f... /conf/machine/ipaq-pxa270.conf: conf/machine/ipaq-pxa270.conf: add i2c-pxa module |
| 12:10.47 | pH5 | koen: very good |
| 12:11.13 | pH5 | man i felt dumb when i realized the module was missing after compiling and installing four kernels |
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| 12:32.47 | koen | bedboi: with a function: http://pastebin.com/364470 |
| 12:34.54 | koen | bedboi: inside the while loop you paint the column with ev_new and increment the column number |
| 12:54.07 | koen | pH5: I'm building a gpe-image for the hx now, any known breakages? |
| 12:58.55 | pH5 | koen: starting from a clean tree? |
| 12:59.02 | koen | pH5: yes |
| 13:00.49 | pH5 | koen: I think the bluetooth stuff isn't in yet, but that's a just a missing feature. |
| 13:01.29 | pH5 | koen: oh, and I load the modules before udev so udevstart finds the input devices. but I don't know if that is still needed |
| 13:04.17 | koen | bedboi: make that while ev_overlap > 1 |
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| 13:18.06 | florian | good morning |
| 13:18.27 | pb_ | hi florian |
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| 13:26.28 | koen | hey florian |
| 13:27.01 | koen | florian: could you start cvstrac? |
| 13:27.14 | florian | koen: i just did :-) |
| 13:27.45 | koen | florian: after some more gtkrc editing: http://handhelds.org/scap/land.19278.png |
| 13:30.23 | pH5 | koen: http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~zabel/hx4700/20050915/patches/ that's all I have changed currently |
| 13:30.23 | Philippe_work | koen, those cancel and svae buttons look quite big compared to the rest. |
| 13:30.37 | koen | Philippe_work: icons..... |
| 13:30.37 | florian | koen: that looks pretty nice indeed.... |
| 13:31.22 | florian | I might be possible to make the border around the pixmaps a little bit smaller. |
| 13:32.41 | Philippe_work | florian, as you are here and you are much better than I am at trees. Do you have an idea why my last check-in only returns garbage for gtk_tree_model_get() |
| 13:32.59 | Philippe_work | If you have some spare time. |
| 13:33.56 | koen | fng_sma should be online tonight to work on gpe-opensync some more |
| 13:35.16 | florian | Philippe_work: okay... i just read the latest messages in the timeline :-) |
| 13:35.53 | Philippe_work | great! |
| 13:36.48 | Philippe_work | If you find what is wrong I just have to change one line of code (and maybe add a history button to the bigscreen app) to make everything work. |
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| 13:40.15 | koen | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.29916.png |
| 13:41.13 | koen | should be the panel the the same colour as the window background? |
| 13:41.20 | koen | or do we want to have some contrast? |
| 13:44.44 | florian | hm... i suppose we want some contrast. the only reason not to have contrast is gpe-clock |
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| 14:11.03 | florian | Philippe_work: Is Makefile.am in cvs up to date? |
| 14:13.32 | Philippe_work | florian, should be. Why? |
| 14:14.18 | florian | Philippe_work: I'm missing the icon :-) I'll add that... |
| 14:14.59 | Philippe_work | florian, you mean in your tree, or you don't see it anywhere in the application? |
| 14:16.25 | florian | Philippe_work: In my filesystem after "make install". |
| 14:20.35 | florian | In that progress we can have translation supportfor that as well... |
| 14:22.24 | Philippe_work | florian, good. I already added the gettext stuff and the _() macro thing |
| 14:23.22 | florian | cool.... i'll add a POTFILES.in for that stuff |
| 14:24.35 | florian | hrm... google i18n sucks |
| 14:29.45 | Philippe_work | florian, cool! |
| 14:29.59 | Philippe_work | the POTFILES.in of course :-) |
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| 15:04.33 | florian | hi rob_w-cgi, hi tigrux |
| 15:17.14 | rob_w-cgi | hey florian |
| 15:20.50 | rob_w-cgi | florian , when do we exspect the release to happen , so then i can start filling you guys with patches for a new hardware ? |
| 15:22.04 | florian | rob_w-cgi: hehe, you can start any time... there are still some bugs to fix :-) |
| 15:22.40 | rob_w-cgi | oh i thought starting a new hardware should be after that freeze ? |
| 15:25.39 | florian | rob_w-cgi: in fact it depends on the bits the patches are applied to... |
| 15:26.56 | rob_w-cgi | sounds good , that will make my friend happy who is the actual coder currently |
| 15:40.00 | florian | Philippe_work: i think i fixed that issue, now i only need to fix my local webcore libs for testing |
| 15:40.34 | Philippe_work | florian, what was the issue? |
| 15:41.36 | florian | Philippe_work: That string to become filled is used in a different way and using a fixed length wasn't a good idea anyway. |
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| 15:42.20 | fng_sma | hola |
| 15:42.28 | pb_ | fng_sma: yo |
| 15:42.29 | florian | hey fng_sma |
| 15:43.02 | fng_sma | pb_: hello! |
| 15:43.39 | fng_sma | pb_: Did you have a look at my work? |
| 15:47.27 | koen | fng_sma: I had some fun with opensync today |
| 15:47.46 | fng_sma | koen: did it help you prepare your lunch? |
| 15:48.04 | koen | it asked me which duplicate to choose: a todo and a appointment |
| 15:48.21 | koen | lunch would be a good idea, btw |
| 15:48.52 | fng_sma | yeah, I need to fix the syncing of the lunch... :-) But, what happened? |
| 15:49.19 | koen | I tried to sync gpe <> gpe via my workstation |
| 15:50.23 | fng_sma | okay... |
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| 15:56.06 | fng_sma | koen: is now all messed up? |
| 15:56.18 | koen | no, syncing failed anyway |
| 15:56.37 | fng_sma | koen: but how are the contacts doing. Does that work= |
| 15:56.45 | fng_sma | work? |
| 15:56.52 | koen | haven't really checked |
| 15:56.56 | koen | they seem to do ok |
| 15:57.10 | fng_sma | cool. At least that works! |
| 15:57.34 | koen | Philippe_work: http://linuxart.com/log/archives/2005/09/15/on-creating-an-icon-monster/ |
| 15:59.07 | koen | applied to clearlook-gpe: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.9766.png |
| 16:02.35 | bedboi | koen: maybe it's better to have this a look & feel configure option |
| 16:02.46 | bedboi | btw i like it much more w/o icons |
| 16:02.56 | bedboi | it's very clean |
| 16:03.26 | koen | yeah, it would be nice to have look&fool to control some gtkrc stuff |
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| 16:08.42 | florian | koen: hmm yes, that might be a good option.... |
| 16:08.47 | florian | hi shiyee |
| 16:09.40 | Philippe_work | koen, oh yes. I knew that. But labels tend to be so much bigger on toolbars, |
| 16:10.14 | Philippe_work | Oops I did not know if for the buttons... |
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| 17:26.35 | tigrux | Has anyoene seen techsoup? |
| 17:26.45 | tigrux | * anyone |
| 17:28.22 | fng_sma | ~seen techsoup |
| 17:28.27 | ibot | techsoup <~Chipoclud@AMarseille-151-1-2-169.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr> was last seen on IRC in channel #handhelds.org, 109d 22h 5m 28s ago, saying: '?'. |
| 17:29.26 | koen | ~seen techsoup_ |
| 17:29.28 | ibot | techsoup_ <~Chipoclud@AMarseille-151-1-40-32.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr> was last seen on IRC in channel #handhelds.org, 156d 4h 21m 7s ago, saying: 'mykonos, google on that question. You may find you answer and a potential provider'. |
| 17:29.55 | koen | tigrux: I think he's on #handhelds.org almost daily |
| 17:32.13 | koen | (he isn't now) |
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| 18:55.27 | fng_sma | hey koen, thanks for the mail! |
| 18:56.47 | koen | np |
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| 19:09.29 | koen | fng_sma: I think you clicked the wrong reply button ;) |
| 19:11.43 | koen | fng_sma: did the time-shift problem in appointments get solved already? |
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| 20:08.06 | fng_sma | koen: no I couldn't yet fix it. I'm trying to find out what the duplication problem is. |
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| 20:20.04 | mimecar | hi |
| 20:20.14 | koen | that's still present with the eventid and todoid? |
| 20:20.17 | koen | hey mimecar |
| 20:20.35 | mimecar | hi koen |
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| 20:21.28 | fng_sma | koen: No, that should be fixed now. |
| 20:21.31 | fng_sma | hi mimecar |
| 20:21.35 | fng_sma | spain was great! |
| 20:21.44 | fng_sma | pb_: hello |
| 20:21.48 | mimecar | of course |
| 20:21.54 | fng_sma | :-) |
| 20:22.33 | fng_sma | We spent a night in Terragona and there was the vuelta and we spent the night in the same hotel as the team of t-mobile. |
| 20:22.52 | fng_sma | They're pretty famous here in Germany. |
| 20:22.56 | koen | tigrux: is there a recommended place to stay in mexico city? |
| 20:23.02 | mimecar | you were lucky |
| 20:23.09 | tigrux | koen: Do you mean a hotel? |
| 20:23.23 | koen | tigrux: anything were I can sleep for a few days :) |
| 20:24.29 | tigrux | koen: I will find you accomodation at a confortable and centric place, don't worry. |
| 20:24.40 | koen | mucho gracias |
| 20:24.54 | mimecar | is spanish new language of this channel ? |
| 20:24.55 | tigrux | koen: En un placer. |
| 20:24.56 | mimecar | :p |
| 20:25.14 | tigrux | mimecar: Yes, at least for koen :-) |
| 20:25.30 | fng_sma | koen: What are you going to do in mexico city?? |
| 20:25.45 | mimecar | tigrux: are you from mexico ? |
| 20:26.00 | tigrux | mimecar: Yes. |
| 20:26.13 | koen | fng_sma: spend a few days after being at http://www.gulev.org.mx/content/ |
| 20:26.29 | koen | or before the conference, haven't decided yet |
| 20:27.30 | fng_sma | koen: coool... will the flight be payed? |
| 20:27.40 | koen | I think so :) |
| 20:27.41 | pb_ | hi fng_sma |
| 20:28.10 | tigrux | fng_sma: Of course. |
| 20:28.18 | fng_sma | wow! |
| 20:30.31 | koen | fng_sma: jg tried to import all his contacts as one big vcard in gpe-contacts (and failed), does that work now with the latest libmimedir? |
| 20:30.44 | tigrux | koen: You must talk to miguel about your plans to visit Mexico City, in order to make your reservations just in the dates you want. By the way, I will pick you up at the airport to guide to Veracruz. |
| 20:31.09 | koen | tigrux: at villahermosa or mexico city? |
| 20:31.37 | fng_sma | koen: no it won't. It will only import one contact per vcard. Same with vcals. |
| 20:32.03 | tigrux | koen: You are arriving at mexico city's airport, then we will have to catch a bus to Coatzacoalcos, in Veracruz. |
| 20:32.19 | koen | fng_sma: ok, I wondered because I saw some reference to iCal in the mimedir changelogs |
| 20:32.31 | koen | tigrux: ok |
| 20:32.34 | tigrux | koen: You could arrive a few days before going to Coat. You must decide and inform to miguel. |
| 20:33.22 | tigrux | Coatzacoalcos is the city in Veracruz where the congress will be held. |
| 20:33.37 | koen | tigrux: what would be better: spend time in mexico city before or after the conference? |
| 20:34.28 | tigrux | koen: I guess after, in order to get suggestions about places. |
| 20:34.37 | tigrux | koen: And, to improve your Spanish. |
| 20:35.21 | mimecar | xDD |
| 20:35.35 | tigrux | koen: Spanish is not difficult, but you will have to get used to hear it. |
| 20:35.59 | mimecar | koen you can see cartoons in spanish |
| 20:36.09 | mimecar | it's a good learning method |
| 20:36.29 | tigrux | koen: Don't see mexican soup operas please. :-P |
| 20:36.42 | koen | sweet |
| 20:36.56 | koen | the flight is E100 cheaper than this morning |
| 20:38.30 | koen | ibot: change 600 eur to usd |
| 20:38.59 | mimecar | can ibot change currency ????? |
| 20:39.45 | tigrux | ibot: change 1 eur to mxp |
| 20:40.00 | tigrux | ? |
| 20:40.04 | pb_ | tigrux: heh, you lose |
| 20:40.10 | ||cw | hm, zwd = mxp, interesting |
| 20:40.18 | tigrux | ibot: change 1 eur to mx |
| 20:40.23 | mimecar | ibot: change 1 euro to ibot |
| 20:40.30 | tigrux | Ohhh.... mxn |
| 20:41.15 | pb_ | yah, ibot works with iso 4217 codes |
| 20:41.24 | tigrux | Is there a pda with harddisk, sd reader and capable to run linux easily? |
| 20:41.37 | koen | sharp slc 3100 |
| 20:41.53 | ||cw | that was fast |
| 20:42.00 | tigrux | slc? |
| 20:42.08 | ||cw | sl-c3100 |
| 20:42.48 | ||cw | jesus, that's almost as much as I paid for my laptop |
| 20:42.53 | koen | ~borzoi |
| 20:42.55 | ibot | methinks borzoi is the Sharp SL-C3100, or a dog (see http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/borzoi.htm ) |
| 20:42.55 | tigrux | Ohh... a zaurus |
| 20:43.08 | tigrux | 735 USD! |
| 20:43.27 | tigrux | I was thinking palm life drive was stupidly expensive! |
| 20:43.36 | fng_sma | pb_: Are there still some gpe t-shirts left? |
| 20:45.03 | pb_ | fng_sma: yep, I think so |
| 20:47.01 | fng_sma | pb_: Who do I need to contact if I want to get one? |
| 20:47.57 | pb_ | fng_sma: me, in the first instance |
| 20:48.50 | fng_sma | okay, I'll send you a mail. |
| 20:49.46 | pb_ | righto |
| 20:58.34 | fng_sma | pb_: Could you already sync something? |
| 21:00.34 | pb_ | fng_sma: I haven't had time to try yet. |
| 21:02.20 | fng_sma | oh okay. Should you need any help - well I guess I saw the code once or twice. |
| 21:02.25 | mimecar | do anyone know the format of pim database ? |
| 21:02.46 | pb_ | fng_sma: heh, right |
| 21:02.49 | fng_sma | mimecar: what exactly do you mean. How the things are stored? |
| 21:02.58 | mimecar | I can get data |
| 21:03.11 | mimecar | but i don't know how can i program "modified" field |
| 21:03.20 | koen | http://handhelds.org:8080/gpe/wiki?p=GpeDatabaseScheme |
| 21:03.43 | fng_sma | mimecar: Do you want to modify the field, or what are you going to do? |
| 21:03.46 | mimecar | I have structure |
| 21:03.50 | koen | and http://www.kernelconcepts.de/~fuchs/gpe/doc/ for more work in progress docs |
| 21:04.04 | mimecar | fng_sma: I'm writing a frontend wich can edit database data on windows |
| 21:04.28 | mimecar | I can add all the fields, except "modified", I don't know how can i generate the value |
| 21:04.58 | fng_sma | mimecar: Oh it is just an integer value of the seconds since 1.1.1970. |
| 21:05.13 | mimecar | ok |
| 21:05.53 | fng_sma | mimecar: With what are you programming it? Does it have a gui? |
| 21:06.09 | mimecar | no yet |
| 21:06.21 | fng_sma | pb_: how are your talks with your investors? |
| 21:06.22 | mimecar | I'm using python and one sqlite module |
| 21:06.50 | mimecar | I would like develop a pim program similar to palm desktop (on windows and linux9 |
| 21:07.24 | fng_sma | mimecar: You might use wxwidgets, I guess there are python bindings, too. |
| 21:07.40 | mimecar | true, but zaurus doesn't support |
| 21:07.55 | mimecar | i want yuse gtk (there's a gtk module on zaurus) |
| 21:08.43 | mimecar | first, application on pc, after, application on zaurus (it depends on program velocity) |
| 21:09.08 | mimecar | I will connect with ssh and sync (program will work with sqlite natively) |
| 21:09.16 | fng_sma | Well, but there are already the gpe ones, you can use those. |
| 21:09.34 | fng_sma | (I mean the application not the syncing). |
| 21:10.12 | mimecar | yes, the first step is use gpe calendar on zaurus and my app on pc |
| 21:10.56 | mimecar | after (If I have the acknowledge) port a calendar application on zaurus (with will add many features) |
| 21:11.47 | mimecar | it's a project i will develop on my free time |
| 21:14.14 | fng_sma | mimecar: Sounds good. I like palm desktop. It's so easy and all works flawlessly... |
| 21:14.57 | mimecar | I wish I can develop the program |
| 21:15.31 | mimecar | sqlite connection works, I can add registers on my pc and see it on zaurus |
| 21:15.52 | fng_sma | Should you have questions of the databases, just ask. |
| 21:16.14 | mimecar | i think sync will be an interesting "problem" |
| 21:16.34 | mimecar | sqlite is easier than I thought |
| 21:18.52 | fng_sma | I also thought of a native sqlite syncing. It would be a lot easier than using the opensync way. I think it shouldn't be that hard (the syncing itself), but the application around it will be harder. |
| 21:19.32 | mimecar | fng_sma: I think sync program should be integrate on application |
| 21:19.57 | fng_sma | You mean like a hotsync button? |
| 21:19.59 | mimecar | I change you application fronend with syncing |
| 21:20.03 | mimecar | more or less |
| 21:20.16 | mimecar | user should have a ssh connection |
| 21:21.10 | mimecar | user should push a sync button on program and giche some data (IP, user...) |
| 21:21.33 | mimecar | and program make all connections witout strange connections |
| 21:21.47 | fng_sma | :-) |
| 21:22.50 | fng_sma | The easiest way would be to copy the sqlite databases to the host and do all the processing there (look for the entry with the most recent modified flag and take all the its data). |
| 21:22.50 | mimecar | the first step (sqlite database connection ) works |
| 21:23.20 | mimecar | you should check modification data and another fields |
| 21:23.24 | mimecar | for example: |
| 21:23.34 | mimecar | zaurus: ID: 1 Summary one thing |
| 21:23.48 | mimecar | PC: ID: 232 Summary one thing (and one note) |
| 21:24.10 | mimecar | it would be possible search duplicate fields and operate |
| 21:24.20 | mimecar | sqlite makes it easy |
| 21:25.22 | fng_sma | oh yes it does! |
| 21:25.29 | fng_sma | how were your exams? |
| 21:25.56 | mimecar | i Passed it |
| 21:26.04 | mimecar | the last signature? |
| 21:26.08 | fng_sma | What kind of exams were it? |
| 21:26.11 | mimecar | no, the last subject |
| 21:26.27 | mimecar | do you know VHDL (is a language program for hardware) |
| 21:26.33 | fng_sma | yes I do. |
| 21:26.52 | koen | nooooo |
| 21:26.54 | koen | not vhdl |
| 21:27.08 | fng_sma | Well, I know what it is, but I never worked with it. I used Quanta in university. We built a 16-bit processor. |
| 21:27.13 | mimecar | koen: Very Horrible Development Language |
| 21:27.57 | mimecar | I'm working on my PFC (final project of university) |
| 21:29.08 | fng_sma | mimecar: what is it? |
| 21:29.28 | fng_sma | hey koen what are those ibot smashing commands? I need to hit libmimedir really bad... |
| 21:29.36 | mimecar | one project with pic programming and hardware design |
| 21:29.49 | mimecar | ibot: VHDL |
| 21:30.06 | mimecar | he doesn't know the language :p |
| 21:31.58 | fng_sma | ~lart libmimedir |
| 21:32.35 | mimecar | ~lart VHDL |
| 21:32.42 | mimecar | xDD |
| 21:34.51 | koen | ibot: VHDL is Very Horrible Development Language |
| 21:34.52 | ibot | koen: okay |
| 21:35.35 | koen | ibot: VHDL |
| 21:35.37 | ibot | hmm... vhdl is Very Horrible Development Language |
| 21:35.52 | mimecar | cool |
| 21:36.22 | mimecar | ibot: VHDL |
| 21:36.23 | ibot | it has been said that vhdl is Very Horrible Development Language |
| 21:36.31 | mimecar | true, true |
| 21:37.24 | koen | ibot: VHDL is also VHSIC Hardware Description Language, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vhdl |
| 21:37.26 | ibot | okay, koen |
| 21:37.29 | koen | ibot: VHDL |
| 21:37.30 | ibot | it has been said that vhdl is Very Horrible Development Language. VHSIC Hardware Description Language, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vhdl |
| 21:39.55 | fng_sma | I need to go to bed. Sleep well, sleep tight, don't let the bedbugs bite. |
| 21:40.04 | koen | 'nightt fng_sma |
| 21:40.05 | mimecar | good night fng_sma |
| 21:41.58 | mimecar | koen: do you have vhdl on one subject ? |
| 21:42.08 | mimecar | or on your work ? |
| 21:44.37 | koen | I still have to finish the course in ASIC design |
| 21:44.57 | koen | and I think the ESP project will use it |
| 21:46.21 | mimecar | I should a pic, is cheaper than one FPGA |
| 21:47.04 | koen | I kinda liked AHDL |
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| 21:50.52 | mimecar | I'm tired |
| 21:50.55 | mimecar | good night |
| 21:51.17 | koen | same here |
| 21:51.23 | koen | 'night all |
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