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| 07:59.01 | rob_w-cgi | hi all |
| 08:01.56 | shiyee | holla |
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| 08:05.44 | rob_w-cgi | how is it going |
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| 08:33.53 | koen | good morning all |
| 08:36.33 | XorA | morning koen |
| 08:36.40 | koen | hey XorA |
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| 08:56.55 | bedboi | hi there |
| 08:57.11 | koen | hey bedboi |
| 08:57.40 | bedboi | it seems that ibot is sleeping... |
| 08:57.46 | bedboi | i can't read my botmail |
| 08:57.47 | Philippe_work | morning bedboi |
| 09:00.17 | bedboi | koen: i can't read your botmail |
| 09:02.07 | koen | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.3171.png |
| 09:02.09 | koen | (iirc) |
| 09:03.11 | bedboi | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.4335.png <- this looks worse |
| 09:04.20 | koen | ah yes |
| 09:04.32 | koen | that one show the overlaps overlapping ;) |
| 09:04.54 | koen | as you see 'third overlap' should be in the left |
| 09:06.35 | bedboi | yes. that's not so easy to manage |
| 09:08.36 | bedboi | in theory it should get another column |
| 09:11.40 | bedboi | if anyone has some idea please tell |
| 09:12.10 | koen | store a 'column_number' attribute in memorie |
| 09:12.16 | koen | memory* |
| 09:12.22 | bedboi | and? |
| 09:12.36 | bedboi | that's not so easy |
| 09:13.03 | bedboi | it is a mathematical problem |
| 09:13.03 | koen | so you can say 3 overlaps with 2, but 2 was column_number 2 and pick the lowest free column_number |
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| 09:13.59 | bedboi | given a set of intervals find for each interval two numbers which are width and an x offset |
| 09:14.26 | koen | ph3ar my 1337 th3m1ng sk1llz: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.17175.png |
| 09:14.56 | Philippe_work | looks nice |
| 09:15.11 | bedboi | the constraint is that they should not overlap and that the minimum of columns should be used |
| 09:15.13 | koen | I remove the main-window's borders |
| 09:15.36 | bedboi | that's a good idea koen |
| 09:15.49 | Philippe_work | again some pixels gained! |
| 09:16.01 | Philippe_work | ~hail koen for gaining some pixels |
| 09:16.04 | ibot | ACTION bows down to koen for gaining some pixels and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 09:16.06 | bedboi | eheh |
| 09:16.25 | bedboi | ~lart ibot for not giving me my botmail |
| 09:17.53 | bedboi | i think i should use matlab to design the algorithm and then porting it to C |
| 09:18.22 | koen | http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/pda/files/gpe-theme-clearlooks.tar.gz |
| 09:18.24 | Philippe_work | Yeah. Gpe designed with Mathlab :-) |
| 09:18.25 | bedboi | btw i have to write an EU proposal |
| 09:18.36 | Philippe_work | bedboi, getting political? |
| 09:18.39 | bedboi | nope |
| 09:18.42 | koen | ipkg install gtk-engine-clearlooks and untar the tarball in /usr/share/themes |
| 09:19.26 | bedboi | Philippe_work: we are working on a EU Research project for network congestion control |
| 09:19.36 | bedboi | testbeds and so on |
| 09:19.46 | bedboi | 3G, 4G whatever |
| 09:21.05 | bedboi | koen: scrollbar is too big |
| 09:23.26 | koen | fixed |
| 09:24.54 | Philippe_work | bedboi, sounds interesting... So you try to get EU funding I suppose. Good luck! |
| 09:27.30 | bedboi | yep |
| 09:27.38 | bedboi | well not me :)( |
| 09:27.43 | bedboi | my research group |
| 09:27.44 | bedboi | ;) |
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| 09:30.31 | koen | http://handhelds.org/scap/land.18354.png |
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| 09:33.21 | Philippe_work | koen is that gpe-irc? |
| 09:33.29 | koen | gaim 2.0 |
| 09:33.46 | Philippe_work | looks clean like that. |
| 09:34.09 | koen | I shrunk the people list |
| 09:35.54 | koen | Philippe_work: and if I click on a link, gpe-mini-browser opens it! |
| 09:37.25 | koen | shiyee: in older versions of gaim I could do something like "login on startup for this account", does gaim 2.0 have a similar option? |
| 09:38.14 | Philippe_work | yay! |
| 09:38.33 | Philippe_work | I hope to make entrycompletion work completly during lunch break |
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| 09:41.35 | bedboi | Philippe_work: cool |
| 09:41.51 | koen | Philippe_work: via a heap? |
| 09:41.53 | bedboi | koen: yes iirc |
| 09:44.08 | Philippe_work | koen, No I am going to use the list I have to keep around anyway for the completion. Loading it in from a file on start-up, dumping the first 100 entries to a file on exit. |
| 09:44.27 | Philippe_work | No extra memory and very easy file-IO. |
| 09:44.46 | Philippe_work | And a minimal amount of writes. |
| 09:45.58 | bedboi | Philippe_work: what facilities are you going to use to write/read entries? |
| 09:46.07 | bedboi | i mean are you using glib ? |
| 09:46.31 | Philippe_work | bedboi, no, I thought of using fprintf... |
| 09:47.08 | Philippe_work | Does glib have nice functions to do that kind of thing? |
| 09:47.44 | bedboi | yep |
| 09:47.48 | bedboi | btw i never used them ;) |
| 09:48.25 | bedboi | maybe fprintf will be enough for your needs |
| 09:50.14 | bedboi | key-value file parser is good for configuration files |
| 09:50.25 | Philippe_work | bedboi, well it is a glist. So I run down the list, in a loop until the count gets too hundered or until there is no more value. And for each entry I fprintf the value to the file. |
| 09:50.42 | Philippe_work | bedboi, indeed that one is good. I use it for the gpe-helpviewer. |
| 09:50.51 | shiyee | koen: yes, its now the default. if a account is enabled in the accounts dialog it will auto-login |
| 09:51.21 | koen | how do I login/log out via the gui? |
| 09:51.57 | bedboi | account |
| 09:52.03 | bedboi | then click on the checkbox |
| 09:52.55 | shiyee | use the status-selector in the bottom of the buddy list |
| 09:53.05 | shiyee | set it to oflline then online again |
| 09:53.12 | shiyee | (a bit buggy still) |
| 09:58.30 | koen | shiyee: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.19541.png |
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| 10:38.19 | jsmanrique | hi |
| 10:39.23 | Philippe_work | hello jserv2 |
| 10:39.29 | Philippe_work | grrr... jsmanrique |
| 10:40.05 | jsmanrique | :) |
| 10:47.55 | bedboi | Philippe_work: scap scap scap :) |
| 10:48.17 | Philippe_work | bedboi, still implementing :-) |
| 10:48.24 | bedboi | ah, k |
| 10:48.49 | Philippe_work | bedboi, I was talking about xchat nick aut-completion.... |
| 10:49.01 | bedboi | ah :) |
| 10:52.50 | jsmanrique | koen: anything new in new releases for GPE users? |
| 10:52.59 | jsmanrique | koen: does your feed still work? |
| 10:58.42 | Philippe_work | great I got a patch for gpe-mini-browser (not one I can use but still) and if I mail the guy back I get this : |
| 10:58.51 | Philippe_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:58.51 | Philippe_work | <alevinsn@aracnet.com> |
| 10:58.51 | Philippe_work | (reason: 550 5.7.1 <alevinsn@aracnet.com>... Rejected by local filters) |
| 11:05.25 | Philippe_work | useful... |
| 11:22.45 | bedboi | hey i'm just viewing the avi http://www.rasterman.com/files/eem.avi |
| 11:22.48 | bedboi | what's that |
| 11:23.24 | Philippe_work | e17 I think (enlightenment) |
| 11:23.37 | bedboi | that's cool |
| 11:23.46 | bedboi | it's just a window manager |
| 11:23.50 | bedboi | btw it's cool |
| 11:24.13 | jsmanrique | really! |
| 11:24.43 | bedboi | bbl |
| 11:35.25 | koen | bedboi: efl embedded |
| 11:38.48 | jsmanrique | koen: anything new in new releases for GPE users? |
| 11:38.53 | jsmanrique | koen: does your feed still work? |
| 11:39.07 | koen | my feed still word |
| 11:39.18 | koen | afaik only gpe-bluetooth changed |
| 11:39.26 | koen | ah wait |
| 11:39.39 | koen | new matchbox-wm and gpe-mini-browser |
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| 11:43.54 | jsmanrique | new matchbox-wm?.. |
| 11:44.08 | jsmanrique | it seems I'll have to upgrade using your feed then |
| 11:45.30 | koen | no |
| 11:45.33 | jsmanrique | no? |
| 11:45.41 | koen | just 'ipkg update ; ipkg install matchbox-wm' |
| 11:45.47 | jsmanrique | ah, yes, of course |
| 11:45.56 | jsmanrique | the same I've done for gpe-mini-browser ;) |
| 11:46.14 | jsmanrique | what's new in matchbox-wm? |
| 11:47.23 | koen | a fix for modal windows blocking input and the 'stuff appears in the topleft corner' bug |
| 11:47.49 | jsmanrique | ok |
| 11:47.56 | jsmanrique | I've have to leave now |
| 11:47.59 | jsmanrique | see you later |
| 11:47.59 | jsmanrique | ;) |
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| 12:58.35 | koen | hey florian |
| 12:59.51 | florian | hi all |
| 12:59.54 | pb_ | hi florian_cn |
| 13:00.01 | koen | bedboi: your overlap detection algo seem to work well, and I think if you run it again per column it would do the right thing |
| 13:00.26 | florian | :-) |
| 13:01.17 | koen | bedboi: if a column has overlapping appointments shift the last one left |
| 13:01.58 | koen | bedboi: and wrap around if x <column number<0 |
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| 13:11.26 | koen | hey mallum |
| 13:12.13 | mallum | hey koen |
| 13:12.25 | koen | mallum: I poked at themes today: http://handhelds.org/scap/land.18354.png |
| 13:15.09 | moray | koen: looks like there's a wasted column of pixels at the top and left (but not the right or bottom)? |
| 13:15.19 | moray | it looks nice, though ;) |
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| 13:20.56 | koen | moray: I suspect that's scap's rotating algo |
| 13:21.09 | koen | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.18354.png only has it at the top |
| 13:21.30 | koen | it's the 'mbopus' theme without the side and bottom decoration |
| 13:21.40 | koen | combined with the clearlooks gtk+ theme |
| 13:27.12 | koen | moray: vga screen: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.17175.png |
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| 13:44.17 | mallum | koen: cool |
| 14:22.17 | bedboi | back |
| 14:25.57 | florian_kc | bedboi: welcome back |
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| 14:41.48 | bedboi | <koen> bedboi: if a column has overlapping appointments shift the last one left |
| 14:41.49 | bedboi | <koen> bedboi: and wrap around if x <column number<0 <-- what's this? |
| 14:42.48 | koen | you move overlapping event to the left, but you can have clumn_number = -1, so it moves in from the right |
| 14:46.05 | koen | hmmm |
| 14:46.55 | koen | if we use the 'last' event we'd better move it to zero first and then shift it right |
| 14:47.47 | bedboi | imho to have the correct solution to the problem the complexity of the algorithm is really high |
| 14:47.48 | koen | or, which might be easier, is to start in the first column and move right on overlap |
| 14:48.12 | bedboi | koen: i'll tell you how i do this |
| 14:48.45 | bedboi | (the complexity is n^2 but n is little) |
| 14:49.24 | bedboi | i have a list of events |
| 14:49.55 | bedboi | then i find all overlapping appointments |
| 14:50.08 | bedboi | comparing ev(i) with ev(j) |
| 14:51.37 | bedboi | this returns a list of intervals |
| 15:02.26 | koen | ~hail florian_kc |
| 15:02.27 | ibot | ACTION bows down to florian_kc and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
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| 15:03.37 | koen | hola tigrux |
| 15:04.39 | tigrux | Hola koen |
| 15:04.52 | florian_kc | hi tigrux |
| 15:05.05 | tigrux | Good afternoon master florian_kc |
| 15:05.25 | koen | bedboi: are ev(1) ... ev(n) sorted by starting time? |
| 15:05.28 | florian_kc | hmm... |
| 15:05.51 | florian_kc | tigrux: well... its night here :-) |
| 15:06.09 | tigrux | :-P |
| 15:23.59 | bedboi | koen: probably |
| 15:24.46 | bedboi | koen: excuse me for the delay |
| 15:24.51 | bedboi | i was writing the octave file |
| 15:25.23 | koen | I was writing a matlab file, but for something else :) |
| 15:25.24 | bedboi | koen: as a test use the following intervals (0,3) (2,4) (1,5) (3,6) |
| 15:25.49 | bedboi | koen: i tend to use octave, matlab on linux is quite buggy |
| 15:26.00 | bedboi | and really slow |
| 15:26.02 | koen | it's quite stable on osx |
| 15:26.11 | Ge0rgy | hiho people |
| 15:26.25 | florian_kc | hi Ge0rgy |
| 15:26.41 | koen | it feels equally fast on a 1.33GHz powerpc and a dual 2800+.... |
| 15:27.09 | Ge0rgy | koen: no kidding in the mailing list? another snapshot? ;) sigh... i should have waited until that... now i'll flahs the ipaq the second time in 3 days *gg* |
| 15:28.24 | bedboi | the simple algorithm for finding overlapping zones returns |
| 15:28.43 | bedboi | (2,3) (1,3) (3,4) (3,5) as overlapping areas |
| 15:29.13 | bedboi | which is true |
| 15:30.59 | koen | (0,3) and (3,6) overlap too, right? |
| 15:31.28 | bedboi | no, not that area |
| 15:31.38 | bedboi | the appointment overlaps yes |
| 15:32.02 | koen | ok, change (3,6) to (4,6) in this example |
| 15:32.50 | bedboi | wait |
| 15:33.14 | bedboi | (2,3) (1,3) (4,5) |
| 15:34.19 | bedboi | it seems to be true |
| 15:39.34 | koen | bedboi: http://pastebin.com/363610 |
| 15:40.53 | koen | no idea how efficient it is, but it should work |
| 15:43.07 | Ge0rgy | wow...didn't already kknow that we have h6300 images right now |
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| 15:53.03 | jsmanrique | koen: upgrading matchbox-wm complains about ldconfig not installed |
| 15:54.01 | pb_ | I suspect it really complains about /sbin not in $PATH |
| 15:54.47 | florian_kc | koen: Thats what i mean... http://handhelds.org/scap/port.11515.png |
| 15:58.02 | koen | florian_kc: yeah, that's a bit suboptimal |
| 15:59.39 | koen | florian_kc: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.13085.png |
| 16:00.56 | bedboi | scap war |
| 16:03.31 | florian_kc | koen: yeah - thats great... now i only see one remaining issue: look at the spinbuttons. |
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| 16:07.47 | florian_kc | hi pH5 |
| 16:08.11 | pH5 | hi florian_kc |
| 16:10.50 | florian_kc | koen: how did you fix this, i tried the old code anf found that it doesn't seem to work anymore |
| 16:13.08 | koen | florian_kc: I didn't fix anything |
| 16:13.14 | koen | that's the strange part |
| 16:13.27 | koen | what are spinbuttons? |
| 16:14.37 | florian_kc | koen: hrm... then why the sizingis correct at your device? |
| 16:14.54 | koen | I really don't know |
| 16:15.12 | florian_kc | koen: look at the "fonts" section in Look&Feel |
| 16:15.48 | koen | 6 and 7 |
| 16:15.59 | koen | and iconsize is 31 |
| 16:16.16 | koen | (31 makes the settingspanel fit in one screen) |
| 16:18.23 | florian_kc | koen: I got it, looks like i have an older version of GTK missing that patch. |
| 16:18.59 | pH5 | koen: I saw you added avahi 0.4. did you play with it, too? |
| 16:19.01 | florian_kc | koen: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.14108.png |
| 16:19.20 | koen | pH5: not yet |
| 16:19.32 | florian_kc | koen: Look at the area around the up/down buttons. |
| 16:20.08 | koen | strange |
| 16:26.54 | florian_kc | good night |
| 16:55.34 | Georgy_away | is it normal, that you cannot add the app launcher to the matchbox-panel any more? |
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| 17:08.45 | mimecar | evening... |
| 17:42.37 | bedboi | maybe i found out an algorithm to arrange events in day view |
| 17:43.05 | bedboi | got to validate it with octave |
| 17:44.22 | koen | bedboi: did you see my idea: http://pastebin.com/363610 ? |
| 17:46.39 | bedboi | yep, btw there's something else |
| 17:46.47 | bedboi | to take care |
| 17:49.17 | koen | after poking at gtkrc: http://handhelds.org/scap/land.19278.png |
| 17:49.58 | bedboi | what about smaller buttons? |
| 17:50.02 | bedboi | is it possible? |
| 17:50.28 | bedboi | the height is too much |
| 17:50.31 | koen | not really |
| 17:50.44 | koen | I did decrease the margin/padding around the buttons |
| 17:50.54 | pH5 | bedboi: the smaller the button, the harder to hit it |
| 17:51.07 | bedboi | pH5: i think they are big enough |
| 17:51.17 | koen | I'm not really fond of the opie microbuttons |
| 17:51.24 | bedboi | heeh |
| 17:53.05 | koen | although ph5 is a bit spoiled by his 200DPI vga screen |
| 17:54.12 | koen | bedboi: what was the extra thing to take care of with events? |
| 17:55.38 | bedboi | not so easy to explain by words |
| 17:55.50 | bedboi | well it's also difficult to explain with sketch |
| 17:56.03 | pb_ | can you explain it with music? |
| 17:56.16 | bedboi | i'm not so good with music |
| 17:56.22 | bedboi | i just can play piano a little |
| 17:56.27 | bedboi | and some guitar |
| 17:57.20 | bedboi | be back later, or tomorrow |
| 17:57.51 | bedboi | what's up with geeklog CVS checkin plugin? |
| 17:58.01 | pb_ | dunno. is it malfunctioning? |
| 17:58.07 | bedboi | yep it seems |
| 17:58.17 | pb_ | it just reads the RSS that CVS outputs |
| 17:58.20 | bedboi | GeekLog can not reach the supplied RDF file at 2005-09-14 13:40:08. Please double check the URL provided. Make sure your url is correctly entered and it begins with http://. GeekLog will try in one hour to fetch the file again. |
| 17:58.29 | pb_ | ah, that's no good |
| 17:58.40 | bedboi | no, that doesn't seem to be good |
| 17:59.24 | koen | probably some more stickybit weirdness |
| 18:00.08 | bedboi | going home |
| 18:00.09 | bedboi | bye |
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| 19:45.23 | rob_w | who is again the ibot guru ? |
| 19:46.07 | koen | timriker I guess |
| 19:46.53 | rob_w | got him |
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| 20:11.21 | fng_sma | hola! |
| 20:11.53 | koen | hey fng_sma |
| 20:12.00 | koen | fng_sma: how was your holiday? |
| 20:12.08 | fng_sma | wow, it's great to have a computer back :-) |
| 20:12.16 | fng_sma | but holidays were great! |
| 20:12.31 | fng_sma | we had nice weather and the food was awesome! |
| 20:12.46 | koen | lots of tapas? |
| 20:12.58 | fng_sma | Oh yes and lots of Al y Oli! |
| 20:13.59 | fng_sma | I read your mail in which you requested to include gpesyncd to the next release of gpe. thanks! |
| 20:15.10 | koen | ~nslookup handhelds.org |
| 20:16.52 | fng_sma | I should say hello from Katrina (not the storm, my girl-friend). She wants to watch a movie, so I'll have to leave :-(. |
| 20:17.08 | koen | have fun |
| 20:17.20 | koen | fng_sma: florian fixed a segfult in gpevtype today |
| 20:17.22 | fng_sma | I hope I will... |
| 20:17.38 | fng_sma | koen: Cool! |
| 20:18.16 | fng_sma | I'll have to work up some things at my job at university but tomorrow I will go on work on syncing. |
| 20:18.25 | fng_sma | ~seen pb_ |
| 20:18.27 | ibot | pb_ <n=pb@2002:5246:d929:1:20a:5eff:fe00:391e> was last seen on IRC in channel #gpe, 2h 19m 58s ago, saying: 'ah, that's no good'. |
| 20:18.46 | fng_sma | hmm... Has he said something about my work? |
| 20:19.04 | koen | not that I heard |
| 20:19.10 | koen | I guess no news is good mews |
| 20:19.13 | koen | news* |
| 20:19.53 | fng_sma | I don't know... I hope. Well, if you see him, say hello to him. I wrote him an email before I left, but I didn't get any answer. |
| 20:20.52 | fng_sma | I hope I'll see him tomorrow. |
| 20:21.09 | fng_sma | Sleep weel, sleep tight koen. |
| 20:22.48 | fng_sma | bye |
| 20:22.53 | koen | cu |
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| 20:33.57 | mimecar | hi |
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| 21:25.00 | tigrux | koen: http://www.gulev.org.mx/content/view/26/54/ |
| 21:25.58 | koen | sweet! |
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