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| 08:17.11 | XorA | morning |
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| 08:21.49 | jsmanrique | morning! |
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| 08:29.10 | Philippe_work | morning |
| 08:33.54 | jsmanrique | gpe-mini-browser getting better each day |
| 08:33.59 | jsmanrique | congratulations :-) |
| 08:34.21 | Philippe_work | jsmanrique, thanks :-) Glad you like the changes. |
| 08:38.09 | jsmanrique | sure! |
| 08:38.27 | jsmanrique | sometimes images seem not to load |
| 08:38.42 | jsmanrique | perhaps because the website, like http://www.engadget.com i.e. |
| 08:38.54 | jsmanrique | and a nice think I note |
| 08:39.28 | jsmanrique | I have a php redirection from jsmanrique.net to asturlinux.org/~jsmanrique |
| 08:39.57 | jsmanrique | using jsmanrique.net it doesn't use my CSS, but if I use directly the other, it works great |
| 08:41.27 | koen | 'morning all |
| 08:41.49 | jsmanrique | koen: morning! |
| 08:42.02 | koen | we have a problem: http://pastebin.com/361309 |
| 08:42.52 | koen | libschedule requests sqlite and sqlite.pc is present |
| 08:44.41 | koen | aha |
| 08:44.54 | koen | libschedule.pc: Requires: glib-2.0 libsqlite0 |
| 08:47.21 | Philippe_work | jsmanrique, it is possible that you don't have the gdk-pixbuf stuff for gif installed as it only a recommend |
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| 08:47.57 | bedboi | hi there |
| 08:48.21 | Philippe_work | morning bedboi |
| 08:48.30 | koen | Philippe_work: libschedule .tar.bz2 is broken |
| 08:49.00 | Philippe_work | koen, now? It has been working for weeks... |
| 08:49.42 | koen | http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gpe/base/libschedule/libschedule.pc.in |
| 08:49.49 | koen | version 1.2 is in the .bz2 |
| 08:56.21 | Philippe_work | hmm. |
| 09:02.51 | Philippe_work | koen, you are right. However I cannot fix it from here. It will have to wait until tonight unless somebody else fixes it. |
| 09:03.27 | koen | 10:56 < CIA-4> koen org.oe.dev * refe5432c... /packages/libschedule/libschedule_0.15.bb: |
| 09:03.30 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:03.34 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:03.40 | koen | we fixed it for ~90% of the devs :) |
| 09:05.21 | Philippe_work | just checked it. de gz is indeed ok. Strange as it is made from the bz2.. |
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| 09:23.49 | koen | ibot: botmail for lamikr: I fixed the libschedule issue, gpe-image should build without troubles now |
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| 10:54.50 | jsmanrique | shiyee: hi! |
| 10:54.56 | shiyee | hi jserv2 |
| 10:55.11 | shiyee | hi jsmanrique i meant ;-p |
| 10:55.25 | jsmanrique | :) |
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| 11:38.28 | bedboi | bbl |
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| 12:51.44 | koen | hey Hallski |
| 12:52.00 | Hallski | hi |
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| 13:18.03 | Ge0rgy | hiho people :) |
| 13:20.23 | koen | hey Ge0rgy |
| 13:21.00 | Ge0rgy | hi koen |
| 13:21.13 | koen | Hallski: in november when immendio start on migrating gnome-vfs and gconf to the new dbus api, will those also be updated to 2.12.x? |
| 13:21.26 | Ge0rgy | i think i will test the latest snapshot today ;) |
| 13:21.48 | Hallski | koen, we will investigate the feasibility for it yes |
| 13:21.58 | Hallski | but most likely (at least for gnomevfs) |
| 13:24.08 | Ge0rgy | anyone here who remembers the discussion about mono and P.net on ARM a few weeks ago? mono 1.1.9 is out since yesterday and lists an ARM JITer which seems nearly finished, besides some little things with some exception handling. |
| 13:24.45 | koen | Ge0rgy: krokas would be the person to talk too |
| 13:25.06 | koen | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/SummerOfCode2005 has a summarry |
| 13:25.38 | Ge0rgy | koen: oh...ok, didn't remember who exactly was it, thanks |
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| 13:35.35 | bedboi | hi all |
| 13:41.06 | bedboi | what's the status of gpe-syncd? |
| 13:41.20 | bedboi | i'm not so up to date of what happened this summer |
| 13:49.53 | ||cw | bedboi: kon just posted tot he mailing list about it |
| 13:51.06 | bedboi | yep, that's why i asked |
| 13:53.07 | zecke | koen: quality of mono is bad? |
| 13:53.28 | bedboi | hi zecke |
| 13:53.35 | Ge0rgy | hi zecke |
| 13:54.41 | Philippe_work | koen, what is the current status in terms of usability for gpesyncd? |
| 13:56.09 | Philippe_work | btw syncing is on the Roadmap/wishlist for 2.8 (well as better syncing so we could eventually push it in) |
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| 14:19.53 | yOyOeK | hi all |
| 14:26.30 | koen | Philippe_work: gpesyncd itself works, the troubles are in the support libs (opensync, libmimedir) |
| 14:27.14 | koen | Philippe_work: martin will be back from holidays tomorrow, so let's ask him :) |
| 14:27.56 | Philippe_work | koen, that would be best indeed. Otherwise we can go ahead imho. How are things on the front-end side? |
| 14:28.29 | koen | opensync seems to be getter better every day |
| 14:28.52 | koen | multisync (the gui) is still buggy |
| 14:29.28 | koen | and my 'vcard of death' is still doing it's job ;) |
| 14:30.11 | Georgy_away | koen: deadly vcards? another hobby of you koen? *gG* |
| 14:31.50 | koen | yeah |
| 14:32.34 | Philippe_work | koen, I should try syncing before I can say more about it. |
| 14:33.25 | yOyOeK | sis you sen a http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:nOKnJDalqTQJ:www.hoeft-wessel.com/de/produkte/skeyepad.htm++skeye.pad&hl=pl&client=firefox :.... |
| 14:34.17 | yOyOeK | big |
| 14:34.35 | koen | yOyOeK: http://kernelconcepts.de/products/portable/linux-portable.shtml |
| 14:34.55 | yOyOeK | exacly |
| 14:39.05 | koen | Philippe_work: will you travel by plain or car to finland? |
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| 14:45.59 | Philippe_work | koen, by car. If you want you can come along :-) |
| 14:46.31 | Philippe_work | btw I guess you meant plane :-) |
| 14:46.54 | koen | those big things which fly :) |
| 14:47.01 | Ge0rgy | *gg* |
| 14:47.10 | Ge0rgy | by a plain plane? *lol* |
| 14:47.25 | Philippe_work | Ge0rgy, exactly my thought... |
| 14:47.34 | Ge0rgy | *laughs* |
| 14:48.59 | Philippe_work | Well my car could be called plain anyway... |
| 14:49.37 | Philippe_work | And build in my gumstix with a touchscreen and GPE. |
| 14:50.10 | koen | and apply for OE commit access |
| 14:50.24 | koen | and take over the world with gpe-mini-browser |
| 14:50.27 | koen | and ... |
| 14:50.30 | koen | and ... |
| 14:51.03 | Ge0rgy | *lol* |
| 14:51.25 | Ge0rgy | a car that looks like a handheld with a linux-prompt would be kind of funny *gG* |
| 14:53.01 | koen | especially now google opened up the api |
| 14:53.05 | Ge0rgy | well, there is already a complete navi-system for linux, isn't it? |
| 14:53.23 | koen | nope |
| 14:53.33 | koen | only the closed souce tomtom stuff |
| 14:53.37 | Ge0rgy | oh... thought there would be... |
| 14:53.42 | Ge0rgy | tomtom on linux? |
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| 14:54.41 | koen | the tomtom go units run linux |
| 14:54.43 | koen | hola tigrux |
| 14:55.23 | tigrux | Buen día koen. |
| 14:56.17 | koen | tigrux: do you think it's worthwhile to spend a day or 2 in mexico city? |
| 14:56.33 | Ge0rgy | koen: oh...i did not know that |
| 14:57.05 | koen | Ge0rgy: see http://opentom.org/index.php/Main_Page |
| 14:57.13 | tigrux | koen: Definitvely is a good idea, so you can visit Museo de Antropologia, one of the best of the entire world. |
| 14:59.05 | tigrux | koen: Teotihuacan is another "must visit". |
| 15:01.17 | koen | a trip to an maya/aztek/olmek city was also on my planning |
| 15:03.22 | Philippe_work | koen, planning for debconf 2006? |
| 15:03.34 | koen | no, gulev |
| 15:08.11 | koen | Philippe_work: I'm hoping that company with a blue logo wants to fund to go to debconf6 :) |
| 15:08.26 | koen | as debconf5 intersected with my holiday |
| 15:16.01 | Philippe_work | debconf5 did the same... |
| 15:16.15 | Philippe_work | to my holiday stuff |
| 15:30.17 | Georgy_away | is there any kind of feed for an snapshot so that i can ipkg install a packet? |
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| 15:42.07 | koen | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/feed/ |
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| 15:46.42 | Georgy_away | thanks koen, but afaik ipkg has 3 different feeds... base, updates and x11 |
| 15:48.28 | koen | that's just a semi-random division |
| 15:48.38 | koen | openzaurus has over a dozen feeds |
| 15:48.47 | mandude | anyone got a h1915 |
| 15:48.55 | mandude | or h1910 |
| 15:54.18 | koen | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.32449.png |
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| 15:59.23 | shiyee | koen: radical :-) |
| 15:59.56 | koen | sloooooooooooooooooow too |
| 16:01.13 | koen | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.392.png |
| 16:02.53 | Philippe_work | mandude I don't think anybody here has one. |
| 16:03.00 | Philippe_work | GPE should work on it though |
| 16:04.19 | Philippe_work | ooops, already gone. |
| 16:04.55 | Philippe_work | koen, flashy, and very dark... :-) |
| 16:07.50 | koen | yep |
| 16:08.55 | zecke | koen: TabWidget inside a TabWidget? dropped your MAC and went to Win95? |
| 16:09.12 | koen | heh |
| 16:09.20 | koen | no, my mac is still safe |
| 16:13.12 | Georgy_away | hmm... bluetooth canning for devices doesn't work any more in the current snapshot |
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| 16:37.48 | pH5 | good evening |
| 16:41.58 | Philippe_work | hey pH5 |
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| 17:28.29 | koen | mickeyl: for consistency: DISTRO=familiar has been invalid for a while now |
| 17:28.54 | koen | mickeyl: and of course OZ needs to solve it in a *different* way |
| 17:28.59 | koen | *sigh* |
| 17:29.59 | koen | and /me needs to look in which window I type |
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| 17:43.09 | koen | mickeyl: can we from now on agree on a common policy *before* some random non-releasemanager changes distro stuff? |
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| 18:18.45 | krokas | Hello. I would like to know how difficult is to install GPE on a Nokia 770? |
| 18:20.05 | krokas | Do i need to compile a complete new image flash for that device ? Or i can just install needed packages? |
| 18:20.24 | krokas | using the original linux installation on that device? |
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| 18:26.57 | mimecar | evening |
| 18:27.15 | koen | hey mimecar |
| 18:27.32 | krokas | Uh... Did I ask something wrong ? :) |
| 18:28.22 | mimecar | can gpe calendar show summary in 2 lines ? |
| 18:28.40 | mimecar | (description of one event) |
| 18:31.11 | mimecar | for example. summary is "This is an event" |
| 18:31.29 | mimecar | i can show on calendar 13:00-14:00 This is an | event |
| 18:31.45 | Ge0rgy | krokas? |
| 18:31.57 | krokas | Yes ? |
| 18:32.58 | Ge0rgy | this morning i have read that mono-project now has a arm JITer , and koen meant that you would be the one to tell to *gg* |
| 18:33.27 | krokas | to *gg* ? |
| 18:35.01 | Ge0rgy | the one to tell to i meant... the *gg* means something like *grin* |
| 18:35.13 | krokas | Uhm... |
| 18:35.17 | krokas | What is *grin* ? |
| 18:35.25 | Ge0rgy | sort of smile |
| 18:35.46 | krokas | I think they should be far from the finish |
| 18:35.59 | krokas | A JIT has many weeks points |
| 18:36.39 | krokas | And even when they JIT really will work not just they tell this it will be near impossible to port to GPE |
| 18:38.05 | Ge0rgy | krokas: ok... it just was an idea. the homepage says that the jit for arm is complete now, besides some minor issues with exception-handling |
| 18:38.31 | krokas | And they VFP use is an horrible thing too |
| 18:38.42 | krokas | I mean, i looked at the code :) |
| 18:39.12 | krokas | Mono has a tendancy to show off things not like they are in real |
| 18:40.27 | krokas | I mean, JIT works mean, yes, something there works sometimes :) |
| 18:40.27 | Ge0rgy | krokas: well, i never looked at the code, so i can not say much about. i just find mono at least on my desktop not that at all. 98% complete winforms, many bindings... and the godfather of gnome and gtk is one of the main-devels ;) |
| 18:41.18 | krokas | No, they winforms are not really complete |
| 18:41.42 | krokas | I mean, it is a oppinion from a person that used it not me |
| 18:41.52 | krokas | Yes, mono, is nice for x86 |
| 18:42.10 | krokas | and 64bit |
| 18:42.26 | krokas | But others platforms are supported in a very formal way |
| 18:42.53 | krokas | Just to tell people, yes we have it :) |
| 18:43.21 | krokas | All discuss about Mono and DotGnu can be there #dotgnu :) |
| 18:43.22 | Ge0rgy | krokas well... ok... i just thought i should tell you. i don't know the quality of that JITer... ans winforms also... just the homepage shows about 98% completion in the last release (yesterday) |
| 18:43.48 | krokas | yes, thanks, GeOrgy :) |
| 18:44.01 | krokas | I look at the progress :) |
| 18:44.37 | krokas | I mean, yes, i should know about Mono and DotGNU both :) |
| 18:44.46 | Ge0rgy | good :) |
| 18:45.28 | Ge0rgy | the worst thing on dotnet on linux is that there is no really good IDE with debugger etc. monodevelop is not even a shadow of sharpdevelop fir win |
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| 18:47.39 | krokas | Yes a good point, imho |
| 18:48.09 | Ge0rgy | well...perhaps they can improve that point some day ;) |
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| 19:08.59 | Ge0rgy | good evening ppl... |
| 19:22.24 | Philippe | re |
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| 20:37.10 | rob-w|BA | hi guys |
| 20:37.44 | Philippe_laptop | hey rob-w|BA |
| 20:42.34 | rob_w | how should a interface look like so that gpe-contacts can dial a phone number |
| 20:45.59 | Philippe_laptop | rob-w what are you exactly thinkingoff |
| 20:47.38 | rob_w | a little phone app is about to finish soon ( or usable now ) and ideally gpe--contacts should recieve a interface to start a call |
| 20:50.22 | Philippe_laptop | maybe just add a call button behind the phone number and make it call your phone app with the number on the command line |
| 20:51.31 | rob_w | it is not supposed tobe close at this point |
| 20:51.44 | rob_w | so wee need a library or so |
| 20:53.19 | Philippe_laptop | rob-w a system() call will not close the current app |
| 20:53.31 | Philippe_laptop | or any exec-type of call... |
| 20:54.50 | rob_w | wont it fork a new instance of the app ? |
| 20:57.16 | Philippe_laptop | rob_w, If you do it well it shouldn't |
| 20:57.55 | rob_w | but then the app needs to cover that ? |
| 20:58.20 | koen | afaik contacts is dbus ready |
| 20:58.41 | koen | it can already send vcards to gpe-beam |
| 20:58.44 | koen | (iirc) |
| 21:00.53 | Philippe_laptop | koen, that is even a better idea. However I am not familiar with dbus but it might be able to do that. |
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| 21:03.52 | Philippe_laptop | evening pb_ |
| 21:04.06 | pb_ | hi Philippe_laptop |
| 21:06.28 | Philippe_laptop | pb_, can you give me some more privileges on the bugzilla? (to add a gpe-mini-browser entry and being able to close bugs) |
| 21:07.03 | pb_ | no, I can't do that. |
| 21:07.27 | pb_ | if gpe-mini-browser is in unstable, though, just ask jamey to run the update-bugzilla script and it will create a component for it. |
| 21:07.42 | pb_ | if it isn't in unstable, upload it and then proceed as before |
| 21:08.17 | Philippe_laptop | pb_, ok. And I should ask Jamey about the ability to close bugs also? |
| 21:08.44 | pb_ | yes, or just ask someone else to close the bugs in question |
| 21:08.55 | Philippe_laptop | pb_, thanks for the info. |
| 21:23.58 | koen | pb_: the dbus interface in gpe-contacts, does that only allow sending to gpe-beam/bluetooth? |
| 21:25.52 | pb_ | yeah |
| 21:30.07 | koen | it should be straightforward to add support for sending a phonenumber to a dialing app |
| 21:31.20 | pb_ | indeed |
| 21:33.35 | koen | rob_w: that's your answer :) |
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