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| 02:23.12 | stealth | i guess ill come back in another three months, maybe someone will finish the second half of the ass |
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| 06:18.36 | _law_ | morning |
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| 07:00.56 | jsmanrique | downloading new snapshots |
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| 07:39.28 | _law_ | morning i have some problems building a gpe-image http://pastebin.com/355045 |
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| 07:54.12 | florian | morning |
| 07:56.30 | XorA | morning |
| 08:06.04 | florian | bbl |
| 08:10.28 | _law_ | morning i have some problems building a gpe-image http://pastebin.com/355045 |
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| 08:32.44 | bedboi | hi there |
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| 08:51.33 | koen|slug | good morning all |
| 08:53.33 | jsmanrique | koen|slug: good morning koen |
| 08:54.11 | jsmanrique | does gpe-miniwebrowser support png files? |
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| 08:54.33 | jsmanrique | does gpe-miniwebrowser support png files? |
| 08:54.34 | Philippe_work | morning all |
| 08:54.44 | jsmanrique | Philippe_work: morning! |
| 08:56.04 | Philippe_work | jsmanrique, it should support png yes. Make sure you have the good gdk-pixbug libs installed |
| 08:56.10 | jsmanrique | just an idea: if you don't introduce a valid url in the url field, could it be searched in google? Just adding some google searching in the browser :) |
| 08:56.23 | jsmanrique | Philippe_work: ok, I am installing latest gpe build image now |
| 08:56.35 | Philippe_work | jsmanrique, hmm that is a good idea |
| 08:56.44 | Philippe_work | and should not be too hard to implement |
| 08:56.47 | jsmanrique | where could gaim for little screens be got? |
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| 08:57.22 | jsmanrique | Philippe_work: and some "Open in another page" when a link is long pressed? Like konq-embedded |
| 08:59.54 | Philippe_work | jsmanrique, multiple window support will be for v0.17 I hope. Bookmarks are almost working which will be v0.16 |
| 09:06.29 | koen|slug | Philippe_work: any news on the libsoup front? |
| 09:06.38 | koen|slug | or is Kompo the person to ask that? |
| 09:07.20 | Philippe_work | koen|slug, I tried it. It compiles but I could not open a single webpage with it because it crashed. |
| 09:07.30 | Philippe_work | I did not have time to investigate further |
| 09:07.57 | Philippe_work | Also the libcurl stuff got a bit broken with the latest cvs |
| 09:08.39 | Philippe_work | Once the bookmarks are in and v0.16 of the mini-browser is released I will investigate that. |
| 09:08.52 | koen|slug | ok |
| 09:11.54 | lardman|work | morning |
| 09:12.00 | koen|slug | hey lardman|work |
| 09:12.08 | lardman|work | hi koen|slug |
| 09:12.30 | jsmanrique | booting right now |
| 09:12.54 | lardman|work | koen|slug: I noticed that the g_ether.ko module (for ethernet over usb) isn't present in gpe-image. Any ideas which meta file I should be looking at to work out why not? |
| 09:13.22 | jsmanrique | where can gaim for little screens be downloaded? ipk available? |
| 09:13.23 | koen|slug | teh MACHINE.conf |
| 09:13.27 | koen|slug | the* |
| 09:13.33 | jsmanrique | would it run in the gpe image? |
| 09:13.37 | lardman|work | koen|slug: Thanks |
| 09:15.35 | zecke | jsmanrique: qpe-gaim? from the opie feed |
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| 09:15.53 | jsmanrique | zecke: not, the one for gpe |
| 09:19.56 | koen|slug | gaim_2.0.0-cvs-mco1.bb <- that onet |
| 09:20.01 | koen|slug | -t |
| 09:21.05 | pb_ | hi zecke |
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| 09:35.11 | pb_ | hi florian_kc |
| 09:35.18 | florian_kc | re |
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| 09:45.13 | _law_ | morning i have some problems building a gpe-image http://pastebin.com/355045 |
| 09:47.35 | koen|slug | _law_: that doesn't list the actual errors |
| 10:02.58 | bedboi | anyone can suggest a good laptop? |
| 10:03.11 | koen|slug | powerbook :) |
| 10:03.35 | bedboi | need PC :( |
| 10:04.06 | Philippe_work | IBM T42/T43 |
| 10:05.23 | bedboi | is Pentium M good? |
| 10:05.31 | bedboi | i don't know nothing about that CPU |
| 10:06.06 | Philippe_work | Well depends. Vendors have been wrongly using Pentium M on lots of stuff. |
| 10:06.19 | Philippe_work | If it states pentium 4 M stay away... |
| 10:06.25 | koen|slug | heh |
| 10:06.37 | koen|slug | stay away from anything that reeks of netburst |
| 10:06.39 | bedboi | what about Dell Latitude X1 ? |
| 10:07.09 | koen|slug | if you want a laptop that falls apart after 6 months, dell is the place to be |
| 10:07.19 | bedboi | cool. |
| 10:07.20 | bedboi | :) |
| 10:07.23 | bedboi | so no Dell |
| 10:07.42 | Philippe_work | The normal Pentium M (centrino platform) Which is the pentium III improved version beats the crap out of P4's in power and performance/clock |
| 10:08.08 | bedboi | ah, ok Pentium M is just another name for Centrino |
| 10:08.53 | bedboi | i just have experiences with HP laptops |
| 10:08.59 | Philippe_work | bedboi, definitely not a Dell if you want a laptop for a decent amount of time. (my colleague got an inspirion 9300. which is one of the most expensive Dell's you can get and parts of it a taped shut with paper tape...) |
| 10:09.18 | koen|slug | centrino is the platform containing pentium M and the intel wireless chip |
| 10:09.23 | Philippe_work | bedboi, Pentium M is the CPU, centrino is the platform. Chipset, wireless, ... |
| 10:09.27 | bedboi | ok |
| 10:09.34 | _law_ | http://pastebin.com/355094 this is the error |
| 10:15.12 | Philippe_work | _law_, seems you skipped building the libmimedir cvs version. Build it with bitbake -b path/to/libmimedir_cvs.bb and rebuild the gpe-image |
| 10:15.32 | Philippe_work | dirty though |
| 10:15.54 | Philippe_work | Anyway I find it strange it got that far... |
| 10:16.18 | koen|slug | it could have built 20050903 |
| 10:16.43 | Philippe_work | koen|slug, right |
| 10:17.00 | koen|slug | I know what it is |
| 10:17.13 | koen|slug | the old libmimedir sorts higher as the snapshot |
| 10:17.26 | koen|slug | so ipkg-make-index -m deletes the cvs version |
| 10:18.08 | koen|slug | _law_: delete the libmime*ipk from deploy/ipk and rebuild libmimedir |
| 10:24.50 | bedboi | there's an ibm tablet |
| 10:24.51 | bedboi | x41 |
| 10:26.39 | Philippe_work | bedboi, That should wotk fine too. However I feel that the screen turning thing is a bit fragile. (I haven't seen it in real life, but from a mechnical view it will be less sturdy than the normal thing) |
| 10:27.59 | bedboi | also it's not that cheap (something like 2 k euros |
| 10:28.00 | bedboi | ) |
| 10:29.17 | Philippe_work | seen this: http://www.corante.com/copyfight/archives/2005/09/02/the_latest_ip_crime_boxwrap_patent_infringement.php |
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| 10:39.21 | rob_w-cgi | hi |
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| 10:43.33 | florian_kc | hi rob_w-cgi |
| 10:44.43 | rob_w-cgi | i revieved some cvs access , where i now can host my gomunicator stuff`s .. yeepee |
| 10:45.20 | florian_kc | rob_w-cgi: rock! |
| 10:45.44 | koen|slug | Philippe_work: we could always ship the svn version of matchbox-wm if mallum doesn't release it in time |
| 10:49.08 | rob_w-cgi | florian_kc and with my new HTC-Blueangel device , i actually have a goal to develop that phone app further to the end |
| 10:52.52 | florian_kc | koen|slug: uh... nasty, we should bug him to do a new release... |
| 10:53.09 | florian_kc | rob_w-cgi: that's good news :-) |
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| 10:57.44 | Philippe_work | koen|slug, Ok that should also do the trick |
| 11:02.42 | koen|slug | jsmanrique: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/drupal/?q=ipkgfind&action=details&pnm=gaim |
| 11:04.39 | jsmanrique | koen|slug: it seems that some dependecies are needed :) |
| 11:05.16 | jsmanrique | armstrong? |
| 11:05.23 | jsmanrique | is it already usable? :) |
| 11:06.57 | jsmanrique | angström |
| 11:11.20 | koen|slug | jsmanrique: see http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/newsletters/ooo-newsletter-200508/ |
| 11:13.33 | jsmanrique | koen|slug: yes, yes |
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| 11:14.42 | jsmanrique | koen|slug: you are near to convince me to change into angström |
| 11:18.13 | koen|slug | you'd have to wait at least till 2006.1 ;) |
| 11:18.47 | jsmanrique | I see |
| 11:19.02 | jsmanrique | so.. when gaim will be added to gpe/familiar? |
| 11:19.59 | koen|slug | when 0.8.3 get's released or when someone adds it to the unstable feed |
| 11:25.36 | jsmanrique | does unstable feed work? when was it updated? |
| 11:27.42 | koen|slug | it works and no idea |
| 11:27.52 | koen|slug | see the rss feed on the frontpage of handhelds.org |
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| 12:15.51 | rob_w-cgi | koen|slug nice article |
| 12:46.08 | bedboi | koen|slug: what's the url of your feed? |
| 12:46.34 | koen|slug | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/feed/ |
| 12:54.25 | koen|slug | Philippe_work: did you manage to add the ellipsed zoom buttons to gpe-minibrowser? |
| 12:54.46 | koen|uni | bbl |
| 13:02.30 | Philippe_work | koen|uni, what do you mean |
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| 13:44.40 | koen|uni | Philippe_work: did you add the buttons and did the new tolbar UI ellips them? |
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| 13:48.04 | Philippe_work | koen|uni, ah you mean putting them in the dropdown menu? |
| 13:48.31 | Philippe_work | No I haven't. I will do that tonight then. I'll be hacking on the db backend anyway. |
| 14:01.42 | koen|slug | Philippe_work: does is autobookmark visited urls? |
| 14:02.03 | koen|slug | a gtkEntryCompletion for "open url" would be nice |
| 14:02.20 | koen|slug | but that's in the 'low priority wishes' category :) |
| 14:05.56 | Philippe_work | koen|slug, no it doesn't I have already been looking into something like that. |
| 14:06.11 | Philippe_work | I however plan to make the home button go to a specially defined home bookmark |
| 14:13.56 | koen|slug | duvel.be :) |
| 14:14.19 | koen|slug | hey mickeyl |
| 14:14.25 | mickeyl | good morning! |
| 14:14.33 | koen|slug | how was your 2 day long shower? |
| 14:15.00 | mickeyl | excellent :D |
| 14:15.06 | mickeyl | you should try that |
| 14:15.06 | mickeyl | heh |
| 14:23.02 | bedboi | mickeyl: i hope you did that with some attractive girl |
| 14:23.03 | bedboi | :) |
| 14:23.16 | bedboi | that would be more than excellent |
| 14:24.48 | mickeyl | yeha. I'm afraid things are not well enough between my wife and me atm. to do that ... |
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| 14:27.12 | koen|slug | hey pH5 |
| 14:27.20 | pH5 | hey koen |
| 14:27.52 | bedboi | today i'll implement plugin support into device manager |
| 14:28.15 | koen|slug | not gtktreeview into gpe-calendar? |
| 14:28.37 | bedboi | koen|slug: ? |
| 14:29.06 | koen|slug | someone said you had patches for that |
| 14:29.26 | pH5 | btw, is there any reason why gpe-calendar views don't fill the whole screen? |
| 14:31.28 | bedboi | koen|slug: ah, that... yes i have it since ages, btw it has some bugs... it's really difficult to find overlapping appointments |
| 14:31.44 | bedboi | and to display them in an intelligent way |
| 14:32.24 | bedboi | in theory you should not have overlapping appointments, btw you have to manage that possibility |
| 14:36.31 | koen|slug | hmmmm |
| 14:36.42 | koen|slug | the rosetta trainer is hardcoded to qvga |
| 14:36.57 | koen|slug | bedboi: do it wince style |
| 14:37.37 | koen|slug | adapt the width of an appointment is it overlaps |
| 14:43.44 | bedboi | koen|slug: what you mean? |
| 14:45.33 | koen|slug | http://pastebin.ca/22147 |
| 14:46.33 | Philippe_work | koen|slug, that is Palm style, they were first :-) |
| 14:47.24 | koen|slug | wow |
| 14:47.38 | bedboi | btw gaim is really good |
| 14:47.41 | koen|slug | evince doesn't have the annoying crash-on-pdf bugs with the new gtk |
| 14:47.53 | bedboi | ok, so please tell me how to do that. |
| 14:48.09 | bedboi | i tried to work out an algorithm to detect and display overlapping appointments |
| 14:49.27 | lardman|work | both? what about the handy and the woody ones? |
| 14:49.59 | Philippe_work | lardman|work, I forgot about the woody ones, but I wonder what you mean with the handy ones. |
| 14:50.05 | lardman|work | or was that a joke too far |
| 14:50.59 | Philippe_work | bedboi, of course! I forgot that too... |
| 14:51.13 | lardman|work | bedboi: hmm, two palms per hand, impressive ;) |
| 14:51.40 | bedboi | lardman|work: broken bus between brain and hands |
| 14:51.54 | lardman|work | bedboi: Monday afternoon does that |
| 14:52.06 | Philippe_work | lardman|work, not so hard. You take two palm beers in your hands and you have that net result... |
| 14:52.11 | bedboi | lardman|work: yep. that's one of the major causes :) |
| 14:52.35 | lardman|work | Philippe_work: and there I was wondering what a liquid palm was |
| 14:54.12 | bedboi | btw, i worked some times on the overlapping stuff and that's not so trivial |
| 14:54.30 | bedboi | i find all overlapping periods in a day |
| 14:54.46 | bedboi | it's not so obvious |
| 14:55.05 | bedboi | lets' say you have this: |
| 14:55.33 | bedboi | [1:00 3:00] [2:00 4:00] [3:00 5:00] |
| 14:56.02 | bedboi | you have to display on just two columns |
| 14:56.48 | pH5 | bedboi: what about two passes, first check for collisions for every appointment and then lay them out |
| 14:56.49 | koen|slug | I guess you'd have to make a 'overlaps with' list per appointment |
| 14:57.24 | bedboi | n^2 complexity |
| 14:57.33 | bedboi | btw n is fairly little |
| 14:58.02 | koen|slug | you could store the result in the db and check if there were changes |
| 14:58.20 | bedboi | what to store? |
| 14:59.38 | bedboi | btw i'll re-think the whole structure of the page. i did in an object oriented way |
| 14:59.48 | bedboi | but i don't like the design very much |
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| 15:01.45 | lardman|work | building gpe-image, gaim-2.0.0-cvs-mco1-r0 fails. Is this a known problem? |
| 15:02.05 | lardman|work | It's a patch failure |
| 15:03.54 | mickeyl | i think there has been an update for that recently |
| 15:03.58 | mickeyl | are you on an uptodate tree? |
| 15:05.06 | Philippe_work | bedboi, would it not be easier to check for an overlap when the appointment is inserted? |
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| 15:05.54 | bedboi | Philippe_work: and? |
| 15:06.16 | koen|slug | store the number of overlaps in the db |
| 15:06.29 | koen|slug | per appointment |
| 15:06.58 | koen|slug | speed vs complexity |
| 15:07.24 | bedboi | hmmm, don't like to mess with DB, that's not a thing to put in the db |
| 15:07.38 | Philippe_work | bedboi, you can mark both appointments as overlapping. (just an extra field in the db) |
| 15:07.54 | bedboi | no i don't want to do that. |
| 15:07.59 | bedboi | that's a visualization issue |
| 15:08.30 | Philippe_work | Checking on each insert if there is an overlap while rendering will be slow. |
| 15:08.33 | bedboi | i mean if i would need to find out all overlapping appointments as a feature, than it would be good storing that info in the db |
| 15:09.32 | bedboi | http://193.204.59.123/not_good.png |
| 15:10.28 | bedboi | you also need to know that you can draw "Overlapped 2" in the left part |
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| 15:10.34 | bedboi | it's not so obvious |
| 15:10.45 | bedboi | extend that to the case of N overlapping appointments |
| 15:11.20 | Philippe_work | bedboi, looks fine. And you can always warn the user when he makes overlapping appointments. That will limit the number. |
| 15:11.50 | bedboi | Philippe_work: i don't like that effect very much |
| 15:13.08 | bedboi | and sometimes i get even worse effects |
| 15:13.10 | bedboi | wait |
| 15:13.16 | Philippe_work | bedboi, just make the columns less wide, or you could try to work with different colors. Overlapping appointments will have a red zone where it overlaps. |
| 15:13.32 | bedboi | no that's not good |
| 15:13.48 | bedboi | i thought about that but it's messy |
| 15:13.50 | bedboi | imho |
| 15:13.57 | bedboi | i do that in the month view |
| 15:14.27 | bedboi | http://193.204.59.123/very_bad.png |
| 15:15.23 | bedboi | the good thing is that when you resize the window all the figure is resized |
| 15:15.39 | bedboi | that's good for month view |
| 15:16.11 | bedboi | http://193.204.59.123/month.png |
| 15:17.01 | bedboi | also i can record a memo as Alarm from gpe-calendar |
| 15:17.08 | bedboi | and then gpe-announce will use that as alarm |
| 15:17.37 | bedboi | the bad thing is that i did that more than 8 months ago so i don't remember the code :) |
| 15:17.48 | Philippe_work | bedboi, anyway what are the chances that you will plan 3+ overlapping appointments If you are warned when you make them overlap. And if you make sure that the columns that indicate the appointment are less wide when they overlap you will have less horizontal expansion. |
| 15:18.05 | Philippe_work | bedboi, that is too bad. |
| 15:18.15 | bedboi | definitely |
| 15:20.30 | bedboi | maybe i also need to reserve a little space at the top of the view to put "reminder" items |
| 15:25.25 | koen|slug | how about a Bains-line |
| 15:25.49 | koen|slug | or whatever a redline is called that indicated where 'now' is |
| 15:27.16 | bedboi | ah, maybe some arrow (just a triangle) on the left bar |
| 15:27.28 | bedboi | you click that and you get the text |
| 15:27.40 | bedboi | i like this |
| 15:28.19 | bedboi | what do you think? |
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| 15:31.30 | yOyOeK | hi all |
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| 15:42.09 | lardman|work | mickeyl: Yes, I pulled after that patch went in (I think). How can I ask monotone what the latest patches were? |
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| 15:48.05 | koen|slug | lardman|work: monotone status or monotone head |
| 15:48.49 | Philippe_work | bedboi, sounds good |
| 15:49.18 | lardman|work | koen|slug: okay I'll give that a go after it's finished with its merkle trees |
| 15:49.42 | koen|slug | 'monotone update' doesn't work it the heads aren't merged |
| 15:49.54 | lardman|work | what does that mean? |
| 15:50.09 | koen|slug | it finds 2 latest revisions and doesn't update |
| 15:50.13 | lardman|work | on the vanille.de server or on my machine? |
| 15:50.25 | koen|slug | with monotone that's the same |
| 15:50.34 | lardman|work | can it be made to tell me when it finds this? like bitkeeper used to? |
| 15:50.51 | koen|slug | monotone: note: branch 'org.openembedded.dev' has multiple heads |
| 15:50.51 | koen|slug | monotone: note: perhaps consider 'monotone merge' |
| 15:51.20 | koen|slug | instead of 'monotone: updated to base revision 4a842e382979d8da86f6983ae2e0414b5b0b1e14' |
| 15:51.39 | lardman|work | I only have one head on my machine |
| 15:51.47 | lardman|work | I can't fix it if it;s on the server |
| 15:52.23 | lardman|work | In any case, monotone update did just tell me what it had updated, and it looks like the gaim patch was already in; and it fails |
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| 15:52.28 | mimecar | hi |
| 15:52.33 | koen|slug | hey mimecar |
| 15:52.55 | mimecar | evening koen|slug |
| 15:52.55 | lardman|work | hi mimecar |
| 15:53.01 | mimecar | hi lardman|work |
| 15:53.32 | lardman|work | My computer's screwed. Either monotone didn't bother telling me it had updated the gaim patches, or it just randomly failed |
| 15:53.35 | lardman|work | argh! |
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| 15:58.34 | koen|slug | hey lolita__ |
| 15:58.50 | lolita__ | hey koen|slug |
| 15:58.55 | lolita__ | ... how are you? |
| 16:00.12 | koen|slug | funeral next thursday, but for the rest OK |
| 16:00.14 | koen|slug | and you? |
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| 16:19.55 | florian_kc | hi lolita__ |
| 16:20.08 | jsmanrique | hi |
| 16:20.22 | jsmanrique | is gpe-plucker useable? |
| 16:20.25 | mimecar | hey jsmanrique |
| 16:20.28 | mimecar | yes, it is |
| 16:20.29 | jsmanrique | I am finding some problems using it |
| 16:21.20 | koen|slug | nils should backport the changes he made to the maemo version |
| 16:21.21 | jsmanrique | gpe-plucker AliceInWonderland.pdb says that dpi is 99 and "Error opening ..." and clicking a buttom it closes |
| 16:22.30 | jsmanrique | Philippe_work: how about a "Download as.." for mini browser? |
| 16:22.40 | jsmanrique | mimecar: not much in my pda |
| 16:22.46 | mimecar | I don't test it with "precompiled" documents |
| 16:22.56 | jsmanrique | precompiled? |
| 16:22.59 | mimecar | I use plucker desktop for convert it |
| 16:23.08 | jsmanrique | does it work with pure text docs? |
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| 16:23.27 | mimecar | yes, it can convert html (plain text, I think so) |
| 16:23.31 | Philippe_work | jsmanrique, I suppose you mean a way to download a file or something similar from the web? |
| 16:23.48 | jsmanrique | Philippe_work: right, I am using wget right now :) |
| 16:25.05 | Philippe_work | jsmanrique, once I find a way how to do it I will add it. However it is a bit down on the todo list. |
| 16:25.22 | Philippe_work | Bookmarks first! And they are almost there :-) |
| 16:25.37 | jsmanrique | great ;) |
| 16:25.50 | Philippe_work | Then zoom for small screens, GtkEntryCompletion, multiple windows and downloads. |
| 16:25.57 | jsmanrique | wow!! |
| 16:26.29 | Philippe_work | And hopefully I find some time to hack on Gtk-webcore to make sure cookies and https work. |
| 16:27.18 | jsmanrique | I've found some .pdb books right now and I was testing gpe-plucker :( |
| 16:28.10 | mimecar | jsmanrique: can you get "original" text ? |
| 16:28.20 | jsmanrique | the Python_Tutorial.pdb seems to work from comand line |
| 16:28.21 | mimecar | and remake the plucker document? |
| 16:28.36 | jsmanrique | mimecar: I'll try, but not sure if I will have time |
| 16:29.23 | mimecar | what document do you want read? |
| 16:30.11 | jsmanrique | http://www.elaleph.com/lectorpalm/La%20caza%20de%20hackers%20-%20Bruce%20Sterling.pdb |
| 16:30.16 | jsmanrique | for example :) |
| 16:30.41 | koen|slug | check http://oss.kernelconcepts.de/maemo/plucker.shtml for more books |
| 16:31.10 | jsmanrique | koen|slug: yes, the AliceInWonderland.pdb is the one that doesn't work at all :) |
| 16:33.18 | jsmanrique | the python tutorial seems to work : http://handhelds.org/scap/land.30686.png |
| 16:33.52 | jsmanrique | but the buttoms for next page and previous not much :) |
| 16:34.54 | koen|slug | is this the new gaim: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.21039.png ? |
| 16:35.21 | koen|slug | the buddy icon as window icon is pretty neat |
| 16:37.58 | jsmanrique | koen|slug: really |
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| 17:14.09 | pH5 | gpe-bluetooth-0.44 has #define HCIATTACH "/etc/bluetooth/hciattach", but the hciattach script is installed as /etc/bluetooth/hciattach.sh. Which one is right? |
| 17:14.27 | bedboi | koen|slug: yes... |
| 17:14.34 | bedboi | koen|slug: that's me talking with my aunt |
| 17:14.40 | bedboi | lol |
| 17:15.38 | bedboi | btw i'll buy (well not me, the politechnic) the ibm x41 |
| 17:17.45 | florian_kc | pH5: well... correct would be to fix one or the other. |
| 17:18.18 | pH5 | florian_kc: I figure. Any preference? |
| 17:18.19 | florian_kc | pH5: Do you have an idea how to install the file hciattach.sh as hciattach? |
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| 17:21.59 | pH5 | I don't know either. There must be another package that does a similar thing already... |
| 17:22.04 | krokas | I just read the review of GPE DotNET on http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/SummerOfCode2005#head-880cb9e593f81480b66d318ed53ea9efe058ce14 |
| 17:22.43 | krokas | I should say that we found out for 100% that the segfault are because of missing closures support in libffi for ARM |
| 17:23.05 | krokas | So please could you correct that point about speculation |
| 17:23.08 | koen|slug | krokas: my email stated that the students should update their section themselves |
| 17:23.48 | krokas | The Portable .NET framework is not large |
| 17:23.55 | krokas | and it is not 1 MB in total |
| 17:23.57 | koen|slug | and since you are the student, you should update the wiki |
| 17:24.06 | krokas | 1 MB is that a joke? |
| 17:24.23 | krokas | It doesn't crash is trange places |
| 17:24.35 | krokas | it crashes because of missing closures support on ARM libffi |
| 17:25.11 | koen|slug | and since you are the student, you should update the wiki |
| 17:25.15 | krokas | I will |
| 17:25.39 | koen|slug | florian_kc: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqH6315?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=h6340_gpe.png |
| 17:26.24 | florian_kc | hmm yes, i don't think 1mb is large... i guess thats about the size of c++ support. |
| 17:26.38 | florian_kc | java would be larger... |
| 17:27.03 | florian_kc | koen|slug: great! |
| 17:27.08 | krokas | It is 7 mb in fact |
| 17:27.26 | florian_kc | Who wrote that review? |
| 17:27.38 | koen|slug | Erik Hovland I guess |
| 17:28.14 | krokas | How can i login there and edit the text? |
| 17:28.59 | florian_kc | krokas: using the "account settings"... |
| 17:29.26 | florian_kc | That iki is a little bit strange... always people search for a way to log in. |
| 17:29.32 | florian_kc | s/iki/wiki |
| 17:29.45 | koen|slug | the wiki frontpage should tell you how to login |
| 17:30.00 | koen|slug | florian_kc: we patched moin to require a login to avoid wikispam |
| 17:31.00 | koen|slug | heh, setting essid to "dominion " upsets hostap |
| 17:36.04 | pH5 | florian_kc: I don't understand the autotools. But what about just putting hciattach.sh into etc/hciattach in the gpe-bluetooth source tree? |
| 17:36.53 | bedboi | pH5: nobody understands autotools |
| 17:37.44 | pH5 | bedboi: now i feel better ;) |
| 17:37.54 | florian_kc | pH5: that would be a workaround... but still not nice :-/ |
| 17:37.59 | florian_kc | ~lart autotools |
| 17:40.05 | bedboi | there's some curse on autotools that make things go wrong for unpredictable reasons |
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| 17:58.10 | koen|slug | Philippe: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.3912.png |
| 17:59.20 | pH5 | koen|slug: ugh. can industrial be fixed to use the whole width for the title bar? |
| 17:59.36 | lardman|work | bye all |
| 17:59.39 | koen|slug | pH5: sure |
| 17:59.52 | koen|slug | pH5: put you can run a second panel in that area |
| 18:00.00 | koen|slug | s/put/but/ |
| 18:00.02 | pH5 | really? how? |
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| 18:01.16 | koen|slug | matchbox-panel --titlebar --id 2 -s 16 |
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| 18:02.11 | pH5 | koen|slug: that's cool. thanks! |
| 18:02.59 | koen|slug | and I actually talked mallum out of expanding the titlebar since it looked ugly IMHO |
| 18:03.26 | koen|slug | you can leave off the -s switch if applets fail to load |
| 18:03.59 | pH5 | koen|slug: i was just worried about the wasted space (and the needlessly cropped title string in your scap shot). but now that I can actually use the area... |
| 18:04.25 | koen|slug | that's true |
| 18:04.26 | pH5 | maybe remove the lower panel and and gain *even more* space :) |
| 18:05.06 | koen|slug | aargh |
| 18:05.12 | pH5 | hehe |
| 18:05.15 | koen|slug | sylpheed suffers from the super modal bug |
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| 18:06.17 | koen|slug | pH5: you gtk 2.8 image doesn't have the freetype bugs |
| 18:06.18 | koen|slug | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.4233.png |
| 18:07.07 | pH5 | koen|slug: great. |
| 18:08.44 | bedboi | going home |
| 18:08.48 | bedboi | see you tomorrow |
| 18:09.01 | koen|slug | later bedboi |
| 18:09.06 | bedboi | bye |
| 18:09.23 | koen|slug | evince only need 15 seconds to redraw a document, but it's pretty fast after that |
| 18:10.52 | florian_kc | bbl |
| 18:11.31 | lamikr | Hi, koen! I just emailed the h6300 screenshots to h6300-port list. There is also one pic from the system info app that could be put to http://handhelds.org/~gpe/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=Various-Devices |
| 18:11.51 | koen|slug | I noticed |
| 18:12.09 | koen|slug | guess what I was doing just now :) |
| 18:17.06 | koen|slug | http://handhelds.org/~gpe/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Various-Devices&id=h6340_gpe_sysinfo_hardware |
| 18:20.24 | krokas | Much better now: |
| 18:20.25 | krokas | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/SummerOfCode2005#preview |
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| 18:21.50 | pH5 | koen|slug: I can turn on the bluetooth radio with gpe-bt, but it doesn't activate the hci interface. Also, when I turn the radio of, it restarts hciattach sometimes. |
| 18:22.13 | koen|slug | weird |
| 18:22.47 | pH5 | does it work for other machines than hx4700 already? |
| 18:27.00 | lamikr | koen: Much nicer, indeed! (...me being today a little bit slow of with irc...) |
| 18:29.59 | koen|slug | pH5: previous versions worked great |
| 18:30.24 | koen|slug | blueprobe puts the info in /etc/sysconf/bluetooth and hciattach uses that info |
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| 18:32.37 | pH5 | florian_kc: you've got mail |
| 18:32.56 | florian_kc | re |
| 18:33.07 | florian_kc | pH5: okay... let me look |
| 18:33.30 | pH5 | koen|slug: maybe it's the hx4700's bt module fault that I have to do hciconfig hci0 up every time. |
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| 18:37.59 | florian_kc | pH5: yeah... that's a pretty good idea! |
| 18:38.59 | pH5 | strange. i just turned on/off bluetooth about ten times without a problem. |
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| 18:44.24 | pH5 | gpe-bluetooth starts hciattach on radio on, but doesn't call "hciconfig hci0 up". when disabling the radio, it kills hciattach and then calls "hciconfig hci0 down". are other bluetooth devices activated automatically? should I add "hciconfig hci0 up" to gpe-bluetooth or bug todd to change the kernel driver? |
| 18:44.58 | koen|slug | afaik it should hciconf hci up, but you'd better check with pb_ |
| 18:45.15 | florian_kc | yes right... |
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| 18:47.56 | koen|slug | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:48.39 | koen|slug | running ipkg at the same time makes it hurt :) |
| 18:49.19 | pH5 | :) what's the next thing you'll port. openoffice? |
| 18:49.26 | koen|slug | blech |
| 18:49.37 | koen|slug | abi + gnumeric will do |
| 18:50.13 | pb_ | pH5: hcid should do that. |
| 18:50.20 | pb_ | hciconfig xx up, that is |
| 18:50.51 | pH5 | pb_: ok. |
| 18:51.13 | pH5 | pb_: did you see my gpe dbus patches? |
| 18:51.27 | pb_ | no, I don't think so |
| 18:51.34 | pb_ | did you post them to the list? I am a bit behind on my email. |
| 18:53.29 | florian_kc | ooo scales down to 240x320 pretty well, even a part of the dialogs are useful. |
| 18:53.32 | pH5 | in hh.org bugzilla. i'm always confused who gets notified where. |
| 18:53.32 | pH5 | http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1394 , 1395 and 1396 |
| 18:54.21 | pb_ | oh, right |
| 18:54.34 | pb_ | it probably did send me email about that, but I'm not very good at paying attention |
| 18:54.36 | pb_ | let me look now |
| 18:56.14 | pb_ | ah, heh, the maintainer is set to "OpenEmbedded Team" |
| 18:56.28 | pb_ | so, I guess it didn't mail me after all. |
| 18:56.43 | pb_ | 1394 looks fine to me. |
| 18:56.52 | pb_ | 1395 is okay too, except that it needs a changelog entry. |
| 18:57.11 | pb_ | 1396 is assigned to Florian, so I didn't look at that one. |
| 18:58.00 | lamikr | So BT is working with hx4700 that has BFR6150. Does anybody know whether there exist BT driver for BRF6100? According to http://www.planetanalog.com/printablePressrelease.jhtml?HeadlineId=X224039&CompanyId=1 says that h6300 series has BFR6100 and HX4700 has BFR6150. |
| 18:58.09 | pH5 | pb_: the rest is in http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=269, but I'll still have to clean them up to work with the old dbus api, too. |
| 18:58.29 | koen|slug | using inkscape with a stylus is cool! |
| 18:58.31 | florian_kc | right.. i found 1396 on the oe list and assigned this to me.. i guess i know latest gpe-filemanager code |
| 18:58.48 | pb_ | pH5: okay, cool |
| 18:59.20 | pb_ | florian_kc: right, very good |
| 18:59.24 | florian_kc | pH5: that looks pretty good :-) |
| 18:59.49 | florian_kc | It might take me some time to check it... |
| 19:03.14 | pb_ | heh, that sounds exotic. whereabouts in the far east? |
| 19:04.06 | florian_kc | pb_: Beijing... i'll be there next week. |
| 19:04.26 | pb_ | cool |
| 19:04.33 | pb_ | I've never been to Beijing |
| 19:04.35 | koen|slug | florian_kc: waving "use GTK" banners in front of the TT office? |
| 19:04.43 | florian_kc | I hope so... |
| 19:04.49 | florian_kc | koen|slug: there is a tt office?! |
| 19:04.58 | koen|slug | in bejing, yes |
| 19:05.16 | florian_kc | koen|slug: In fact we will be there to tell people how to use GTK :-) |
| 19:05.19 | pb_ | florian_kc: yeah, those trolls are everywhere |
| 19:05.41 | koen|slug | "Trolltech is headquartered in Oslo, Norway, with offices in Brisbane, Australia, Palo Alto, California and Bejing, China." |
| 19:07.23 | florian_kc | It might be hard to find them in that city... |
| 19:11.58 | pH5 | now gpe-bluetooth works and hcid activates the interface, without me having done anything. |
| 19:12.24 | koen|slug | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.7409.png |
| 19:13.01 | florian_kc | uh |
| 19:13.17 | florian_kc | Time for a bugreport... |
| 19:17.49 | yOyOeK | hyy http://handhelds.org/scap/ i see ther is working gpdf reader :/ |
| 19:17.52 | Philippe | re |
| 19:17.59 | yOyOeK | on h3900 it don't work |
| 19:18.07 | koen|slug | hey Philippe |
| 19:18.20 | koen|slug | yOyOeK: that's evince |
| 19:18.33 | koen|slug | yOyOeK: and it needs gtk 2.8 to stop it from crashing |
| 19:18.39 | Philippe | koen|slug, just saw a screenshot of gpe-mini-browser in the backlog |
| 19:19.08 | Philippe | koen|slug, Was it a hint to put the fullscreen button first or a reminder of using a smaller font? |
| 19:19.15 | koen|slug | Philippe: no |
| 19:19.21 | koen|slug | it's just a screenshot |
| 19:19.36 | pb_ | pH5: your gpe-bluetooth/bluez-pin patch is in. I'll prepare a new release. |
| 19:19.42 | pH5 | pb_: thanks! |
| 19:19.51 | pH5 | indeed. |
| 19:20.01 | Philippe | koen|slug, ok :-) I just wondered. |
| 19:20.20 | pb_ | florian_kc: fyi, I just linked pin-ui.[ch] from bluez-pin into gpe-bluetooth in the repository. |
| 19:20.48 | pb_ | so, some caution required if you find yourself patching those files. |
| 19:20.59 | Philippe | koen|slug, did you try the bookmarks with latest cvs? Just to be sure it doesn't crash all over the place before I put the db backend in. |
| 19:21.19 | pb_ | oh dear, now I am in some kind of libmimedir hell. |
| 19:21.20 | koen|slug | Philippe: I dind't try that one yet |
| 19:21.27 | pb_ | does anybody know where to get the latest version of that? |
| 19:21.34 | koen|slug | cvs.gnome.org |
| 19:22.01 | pb_ | ah, no tarball? oh well. |
| 19:22.14 | pb_ | drat, now I have conflicts in my cvs tree. |
| 19:22.25 | koen|slug | pb_: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/source/libmimedir_anoncvs.gnome.org__20050905.tar.gz |
| 19:23.03 | pb_ | thanks |
| 19:23.13 | pb_ | I think my cvs checkout is back in shape now, actually |
| 19:23.28 | pb_ | pH5: if you send me a changelog for the gpe-contacts one, I'll check that in too. |
| 19:24.17 | florian_kc | pb_: okay, thanks! |
| 19:24.43 | pb_ | gpe-bluetooth-0.45.tar.gz is ready for distribution |
| 19:24.55 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 19:25.13 | pb_ | okay, it's tagged and uploaded |
| 19:25.14 | florian_kc | ah right, we need a new libmimedir in Debian... |
| 19:26.53 | pb_ | and bluez-pin 0.26 is uploaded also. |
| 19:27.06 | pb_ | yah, good idea |
| 19:27.17 | koen|slug | NOTE: package gpe-bluetooth-0.45: completed |
| 19:27.30 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 19:29.09 | Philippe | florian_kc, I found why the dev files don't have the right permissions. gpe-login.pre-session does a chown of the device file. If it is a regular user he is not allowed to, and if the user that runs the script is root it changes nothing. |
| 19:30.43 | Philippe | Anybody knows as which user that script is run. If it is root some chmod's should do the trick |
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| 19:38.44 | florian_kc | Philippe: That one should run as root... noone else can chown the dev files. |
| 19:44.35 | Philippe | florian_kc, can I change it in chmod's then. A chown to root is pretty useless, unless the user gets filled in correctly which for some reason does not seem to happen. |
| 19:45.28 | Philippe | koen|slug, excellent choice! |
| 19:48.08 | florian_kc | Philippe: That would be a bug.. can you verify this? It should be passed to that script (see the first lines). |
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| 20:04.05 | koen|slug | hey jskcr, how's jlime doing? |
| 20:04.30 | florian_kc | re |
| 20:05.26 | koen|slug | hey florian_kc |
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| 20:11.25 | Henry78 | hello everybody |
| 20:12.05 | Henry78 | anyone likes to deal with a newbie? got problem compiling xserver-xorg-6.8.99.11-r0 |
| 20:12.09 | Henry78 | for gpe |
| 20:12.36 | koen|slug | why would you need xorg for gpe? |
| 20:13.09 | Henry78 | it included in the familiar build |
| 20:13.23 | koen|slug | it isn't |
| 20:13.44 | Henry78 | just made a "bitbake gpe-image " |
| 20:16.04 | Henry78 | so it is included? |
| 20:16.19 | Henry78 | or me a fool? |
| 20:16.49 | florian_kc | Henry78: For which device do you build? |
| 20:17.32 | Henry78 | for an ipaq. machine "ipaq-pxa-2.6" from the dreambox branch |
| 20:18.37 | koen|slug | 1) don't use dreambox for other that dreamboxes |
| 20:18.53 | koen|slug | 2) ipaq-pxa-2.6 was deleted a while ago from the main branch |
| 20:19.33 | Henry78 | ad 2) didn't know that, sure had it's reasons |
| 20:20.01 | Henry78 | ad 1) for an h2200 the ipaq-pxa270 wouln'd work i think. |
| 20:20.20 | Henry78 | so i will try to build it by hand, and not the image |
| 20:20.43 | rob_w | wherent there 2 tools to make screen shot?s ,, scap and ? |
| 20:20.55 | pH5 | rob_w: fbgrab |
| 20:21.27 | rob_w | is this in the standard gpe image ? |
| 20:21.36 | koen|slug | Henry78: h3900 and set the kernel to 2.6 |
| 20:21.48 | koen|slug | rob_w: no, you'll need to install fbgrab |
| 20:22.01 | Henry78 | okay. i'll try that. thanks for the help |
| 20:22.16 | lamikr | Henry: What was your distro? When I tried to build with DISTRO=generic, I had one gcc segfault with xserver-xorg. Needed to change one method to use if else statements instead of switch so get it build with gcc 3.4.4. |
| 20:23.03 | Henry78 | distro was familiar |
| 20:23.48 | florian_kc | Use DISTRO=familiar-0.8.3 |
| 20:24.43 | Henry78 | i'ts a segfault here too. xf86Bus.c doesn't get build |
| 20:25.03 | koen|slug | florian_kc: DISTRO="familiar" result in a big INVALID in the summary screen since a few days :) |
| 20:25.24 | Henry78 | and another hint. 0.8.3 just started to build it... |
| 20:26.20 | koen|slug | Henry78: the dreambox branch is pretty outdated |
| 20:26.25 | koen|slug | use the .dev branch |
| 20:26.48 | Henry78 | .dev branch with machine file from the .dreambox? |
| 20:27.03 | Henry78 | should work, as far as i see |
| 20:27.06 | koen|slug | you wanted to build far an ipaq right? |
| 20:27.19 | koen|slug | the .dreambox is just a old version of .dev |
| 20:27.47 | koen|slug | with some stuff specific for the dreambox satelite decoders |
| 20:27.53 | Henry78 | ahh! |
| 20:28.19 | Henry78 | yes. wanted to build for an h2200 |
| 20:28.30 | lamikr | henry78. Just check the line where gcc segfaults, something 32xx, and then change the switch() statement inside the loop to "if else" statements and then it will build. |
| 20:28.54 | koen|slug | lamikr: you don't need xorg for h2200 |
| 20:29.15 | Henry78 | thanks lakmir, try that if the build agains .dev fails |
| 20:29.48 | koen|slug | Henry78: set KERNEL = "kernel26" in local.conf |
| 20:29.55 | koen|slug | and use MACHINE="h3900" |
| 20:30.14 | koen|slug | that will build something that can be used on a h2200 |
| 20:30.55 | Henry78 | that all i want, something to start with. |
| 20:31.50 | koen|slug | it's working pretty good on my h2210 |
| 20:32.28 | Henry78 | thats good to know. so thanks again for the tipps, will try as advised *g* |
| 20:32.58 | pH5 | koen|slug: That's what I have for bluetooth, so far: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=297 |
| 20:33.04 | koen|slug | the TS is still messed up at the bottom, though |
| 20:35.02 | koen|slug | pH5: the patch for gpe-bluetooth is a bit polluted |
| 20:35.05 | koen|slug | http://bugs.openembedded.org/attachment.cgi?id=213 |
| 20:35.14 | rob_w | ok so scap does produce shitty shoots , but fbgrab does produce a proper png file |
| 20:35.50 | koen|slug | scap breaks on unknown models |
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| 20:36.05 | rob_w | aha ! that it is !! |
| 20:36.06 | koen|slug | (thanks to a bug cause by me telling nonsene to nelson) |
| 20:36.07 | pH5 | koen|slug: oh. i'll fix that (the 0.44 part at least) |
| 20:36.09 | mimecar_ | hi |
| 20:37.10 | koen|slug | pH5: the blueprobe change looks ok, be sure to push it upstream too |
| 20:37.13 | koen|slug | hey mimecar_ |
| 20:37.13 | rob_w | koen|slug, how then can i upload my new shot to handhelds .. specially as it is a first shoot from the htc-blueangel |
| 20:37.22 | mimecar_ | hi koen|slug |
| 20:37.37 | mimecar_ | rob_w: a screen shot? |
| 20:37.39 | koen|slug | rob_w: vi /usr/bin/scap and correct the path to fbset |
| 20:39.55 | shiyee | koen|slug: you talked about an email mentioning http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/SummerOfCode2005 , i seem to have missed that one... when did you send it? |
| 20:41.35 | rob_w | still shitty looking shoot |
| 20:42.06 | koen|slug | shiyee: I think it got lost in hh.org |
| 20:42.14 | koen|slug | it should have been sent to summer-coders |
| 20:42.18 | shiyee | oh okay... |
| 20:43.06 | shiyee | but i should write a summary of my project? (after updating my patches, as i heard a rumor about them not applying cleanly :-) ) |
| 20:43.45 | koen|slug | shiyee: please write a summarry of your project |
| 20:44.37 | koen|slug | with screenshots! |
| 20:47.12 | koen|slug | shiyee: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.14280.png |
| 20:47.27 | koen|slug | the notebook doesn't get arrows at the end |
| 20:47.55 | koen|slug | and the window doesn't resize vertically when rotating (the ok button gets cut-off) |
| 20:48.35 | shiyee | okay, will just throw them in my shiny new bugzilla place |
| 20:48.47 | shiyee | but the notebook issue seems to be a regression |
| 20:48.53 | shiyee | :-( |
| 20:51.02 | koen|slug | that is with gtk 2.8 though |
| 20:52.06 | shiyee | oh okay... will investigate |
| 20:53.45 | rob_w | how can i netcat a fininshed png file there ? |
| 20:53.59 | koen|slug | you can't |
| 20:54.18 | koen|slug | you can mail to to me and I'll put in in hh.org/~koen :) |
| 20:54.52 | rob_w | damn , destiny this is a initial shot on a new pda which gpe will soon run , this needs tobe in the gallery |
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| 20:58.03 | koen|slug | rob_w: that can be arranged too :) |
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| 21:14.59 | florian_kc | koen|slug: What do you think abot GTK 2.8 on the PDAs? |
| 21:15.46 | koen|slug | http://handhelds.org/~gpe/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Various-Devices&id=htc_blueangel |
| 21:16.28 | koen|slug | florian_kc: after I noticed evince worked I think it's great |
| 21:16.40 | koen|slug | but I still think it is for gpe-2.8 |
| 21:16.55 | florian_kc | koen|slug, rob_w: Cool! |
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| 21:18.59 | florian_kc | koen|slug: Is the speed still okay? Does it fit in 16MB images? |
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| 21:21.37 | koen|slug | the speed is ok |
| 21:22.35 | rob_w | YES! |
| 21:24.02 | koen|slug | florian_kc: the main gtk+ ipkg is still 1.5M |
| 21:24.59 | koen|slug | cairo has grown 50k, but doesn't need libpixman anymore |
| 21:26.03 | florian_kc | rob_w: How is hardware support for the Blueangel going? |
| 21:26.55 | shiyee | hmm... i just got a thought about updating the gaim patches... if i update them, they will probably no longer apply cleanly to the cvsdate mentioned in the Roadmap for GPE 2.7... this calls for trouble, anyone with bright advice? |
| 21:27.30 | florian_kc | shiyee: we'll change it there in that case... |
| 21:28.27 | rob_w | florian_kc, my friend martin is doing big things , so we have the fb device up , gsm is located at a proper /dev/ttyS0, touchscreen works |
| 21:28.55 | florian_kc | rob_w: pretty cool... any ideas about the flash? |
| 21:29.16 | rob_w | i am currently have the blueangel booted via haret and nfs mounted the gpe image ,, works pretty cool |
| 21:29.20 | shiyee | florian_kc: thats not a permanent solution :-( next time the gaim tree becomes incompatible, its either support for the new or the old (and released) |
| 21:29.31 | rob_w | not mee !! |
| 21:29.44 | koen|slug | shiyee: try to get the patches upstream |
| 21:29.47 | rob_w | also SD works soon for me , for martin it does already |
| 21:29.58 | koen|slug | using a configure switch or something |
| 21:30.16 | florian_kc | Yes, that would be very useful- |
| 21:30.20 | shiyee | koen|slug: i know thats the ideal solution for us, but the gaim devs dont think it belongs in their territory |
| 21:30.50 | shiyee | it will be so much more easy when they release 2.0.0 |
| 21:31.04 | florian_kc | shiyee: that's right... |
| 21:31.04 | shiyee | this chasing CVS stuff isnt ideal |
| 21:31.20 | koen|slug | the gaim devs are idiots |
| 21:31.31 | koen|slug | just ask robtaylor |
| 21:31.51 | shiyee | koen|slug: well, how can i say this.... agreed |
| 21:31.52 | florian_kc | koen|slug: maybe we should flood their mailinglist with requests for an embedded version ;-) |
| 21:32.59 | shiyee | can the CVSdate be set permanently in the .bb? |
| 21:33.08 | koen|slug | yes |
| 21:33.34 | koen|slug | CVSDATE_{PN}="20050905"P |
| 21:33.36 | shiyee | then i will vote for that solution for now |
| 21:34.11 | shiyee | and update regularly |
| 21:35.13 | florian_kc | rob_w: which theme is this in the Blueangel screenshot? |
| 21:35.36 | shiyee | koen|slug: could you put CVSDATE_{PN}="20050829" in the gaim_2.0.0-cvs-mco1.bb ? |
| 21:36.23 | koen|slug | not today? |
| 21:36.37 | koen|slug | since I updated the patches (thanks to _law_) |
| 21:36.49 | shiyee | oh, that would work too |
| 21:36.52 | rob_w | florian_kc, eagle eye ! , that is socalled mbcrystal , one of me favorites |
| 21:40.18 | florian_kc | rob_w: hmm... oh, i rememeber some unffinished version of it. was it released? |
| 21:44.01 | Philippe | back. |
| 21:44.07 | koen|slug | back again |
| 21:44.13 | rob_w | i still find it in the 0.8.2 feeds ! |
| 21:45.25 | florian_kc | Philippe: wb |
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| 21:50.12 | shiyee | good night all... |
| 21:50.38 | koen|slug | 'night shiyee |
| 22:00.17 | Philippe | bookmarks on the Ipaq : http://handhelds.org/scap/port.19071.png |
| 22:02.33 | Philippe | florian_kc, I checked /etc/X11/gpe-login.pre-session and it even makes dirs as root... so the $user being used is root. |
| 22:02.44 | koen|slug | Philippe: can the treeview have and alternating background color? |
| 22:02.50 | koen|slug | an* |
| 22:03.43 | koen|slug | alterating per row that is |
| 22:03.55 | Philippe | koen I think so yes. Anyway if I get better at it I will make categories. |
| 22:04.07 | florian_kc | Philippe: nasty... what kind of image is this on? |
| 22:04.39 | Philippe | florian_kc, normal gpe-2.7 with familiar 0.8.3. |
| 22:05.05 | Philippe | It explains the issues we see with the h3900 also. |
| 22:05.17 | Philippe | gpe-login version 0.82 btw |
| 22:05.25 | koen|slug | 'night all |
| 22:06.01 | florian_kc | Philippe: I'm just building a new image... i'll test this tomorrow. maybe remeind me if i forget... |
| 22:06.24 | Philippe | florian_kc, ok. I'll harass you about it :-) |
| 22:07.23 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 22:09.04 | florian_kc | rob_w: You need to send nelson a dump of /dev/fb0, the content of /proc/cpuinfo and maybe the output of fbset to make him add support to scap for it. |
| 22:10.21 | yOyOeK | sii ja all |
| 22:27.52 | rob_w | ah i ssee |
| 22:28.12 | rob_w | will do tomorrow |
| 22:54.16 | florian_kc | good night |
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