| 00:00.26 | florian | koen|slug: I appended a list of open releases here: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GPEToFixFor2_2e7 |
| 00:01.38 | koen|slug | fng_sma: a check for duplicates would be nice too |
| 00:02.05 | fng_sma | koen|slug: That should do opensync. |
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| 00:08.24 | florian | good night |
| 00:08.31 | fng_sma | good night florian |
| 00:08.33 | koen|slug | 'night florian |
| 00:13.00 | koen|slug | fng_sma: a failed pda <> pda sync: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/pda/opensync2/ |
| 00:13.57 | fng_sma | Did one of the pdas have no contacts? |
| 00:14.27 | koen|slug | they both have contacts |
| 00:14.39 | koen|slug | they synced previously |
| 00:14.52 | koen|slug | I deleted duplicated and create mr foo on the c700 |
| 00:14.58 | koen|slug | now the c700 refuses to sync |
| 00:15.23 | koen|slug | time to go to bed |
| 00:15.26 | koen|slug | 'night all |
| 00:15.34 | mreimer | night koen |
| 00:15.35 | fng_sma | koen|slug: Good night, and thanks for you tests! |
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| 00:25.15 | fng_sma | Does someone know if there is a sql(ite) statement to list the tables in a database? |
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| 07:50.02 | hrw|work | morning |
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| 08:27.48 | koen|slu1 | good morning all |
| 08:29.13 | Philippe_work | morning all, koen |
| 08:32.48 | koen|slug | hey XorA |
| 08:33.00 | XorA | morning |
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| 08:35.41 | koen|slug | XorA: I synced my ipaq to my Z yesterday :) |
| 08:35.46 | koen|slug | ~hail opensync |
| 08:35.47 | ibot | ACTION bows down to opensync and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 08:39.55 | rob_w | koen|slug, oe buidls very smoothly from scratch ,... i am already at matchbox-themes without any interrupt |
| 08:40.38 | koen|slug | nice |
| 08:44.28 | XorA | koen|slug: cool |
| 08:44.59 | XorA | koen|slug: I must get back in the syncing game |
| 08:45.09 | rob_w | i shouldn have said that ,, now i got a 404 error |
| 08:45.46 | koen|slug | XorA: the opensync devs are looking into 64bit issues |
| 08:46.00 | koen|slug | so I suspect it still blows up on amd64 |
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| 09:03.28 | florian_hrz | good morning |
| 09:03.45 | koen|slug | hey florian_hrz |
| 09:11.50 | Philippe_work | morning florian_hrz |
| 09:13.36 | florian_hrz | Wow... 25 checkins yesterday :-) |
| 09:15.55 | Philippe_work | one day to the freeze, maybe that has something to do with it :-) |
| 09:16.11 | florian_hrz | heh |
| 09:18.09 | florian_hrz | I put a big list of open releases to the wiki yesterday... |
| 09:18.49 | Philippe_work | florian_hrz, I noticed this morning :-) |
| 09:21.00 | florian_hrz | hmm... cvstrac merged four of my checkins to a single entry. |
| 09:22.06 | florian_hrz | Philippe_work: Its an idea for the future, but syncing of gpe-timesheet data would rock. |
| 09:22.47 | Philippe_work | florian_hrz, ok adding it to the todo list... first I need to find out why start and end time are equal. |
| 09:23.46 | florian_hrz | Philippe_work: yeah... |
| 09:24.25 | florian_hrz | koen|slug: hum... what about spending this time in fixing bugs and removing them from the wiki? |
| 09:24.45 | koen|slug | you can't have it all ;) |
| 09:25.20 | florian_hrz | *g* |
| 09:30.15 | Philippe_work | florian_hrz, I already added a duration field. (well it was there but used the stop comments) Duration however will be 0 until I find out what happens with the time |
| 09:31.54 | florian_hrz | yep |
| 09:32.36 | hrw|work | gpe has sync daemon? |
| 09:32.43 | koen|slug | yes |
| 09:32.52 | koen|slug | bitbake gpesyncd :) |
| 09:33.40 | hrw|work | ;) |
| 09:35.10 | hrw|work | opie sync support need more love |
| 09:35.28 | koen|slug | someone was working on an opensync plugin |
| 09:35.43 | koen|slug | and thanks to zecke opensync can sync to kitchensync/kde |
| 09:37.02 | koen|slug | opei-sync in in opensync svn, no idea how useable it is |
| 09:37.21 | hrw|work | for me it is unusable nevermind how complete it is |
| 09:37.38 | hrw|work | the problem is on device side - I use sqlite backend not xml one |
| 09:39.35 | florian_hrz | Hmm.. the sync plugin reads the xml? isn't there an api to access data? |
| 09:40.18 | hrw|work | florian_hrz: on device side yes. but syncing use ftp to get xml files from device |
| 09:42.06 | hrw|work | anyway I need opie magician to get more info about it |
| 09:42.45 | florian_hrz | hrw|work: oh well... but you can do the same with the sqlite databases and use the api on the pc. |
| 09:43.10 | Philippe_work | florian_hrz, mallum acknowledged the modal window bug and will fix it. |
| 09:43.16 | Philippe_work | yay :-) |
| 09:43.23 | hrw|work | florian_hrz: sure |
| 09:44.03 | florian_hrz | Philippe_work: ah great, that's important. |
| 09:44.28 | koen|slug | gah |
| 09:44.32 | koen|slug | bugs.o-hand.com is down |
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| 09:53.30 | Philippe_work | koen, indeed. Mallum is changing hosts and moving the bugzilla |
| 09:53.54 | lardman | morning |
| 09:54.10 | koen|slug | hey lardman |
| 09:54.25 | lardman | hi koen|slug |
| 09:57.12 | florian_hrz | hi lardman|work |
| 09:57.24 | florian_hrz | uh bugzilla :-/ |
| 09:57.34 | florian_hrz | Isn't he using svn? |
| 09:59.11 | koen|slug | yes, svn and bugzilla |
| 09:59.29 | koen|slug | http://svn.o-hand.com/view/ |
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| 10:00.58 | Philippe_work | wee! mallum already fixed it. (tonight I will try the svn version) |
| 10:01.43 | lardman|work | hi florian_hrz |
| 10:02.34 | florian_hrz | koen|slug: then Trac would be a good idea |
| 10:02.44 | florian_hrz | Philippe_work: great |
| 10:03.18 | Philippe_work | florian_hrz, thank mallum :-) |
| 10:05.29 | florian_hrz | :-) |
| 10:06.09 | florian_hrz | hrm... gpe-what doesn't work on my pc |
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| 10:18.47 | koen|slug | florian_hrz: the new libmimedir api is needed for fng_sma to complete his SoC |
| 10:19.13 | koen|slug | do you think you (or Philippe_work) can release the necessary bits later tonight? |
| 10:19.39 | rob_w | the BBMASK separates via : |
| 10:19.43 | rob_w | , right ? |
| 10:20.57 | Philippe_work | koen, you mean the libmimedir stuff> |
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| 10:22.17 | florian_hrz | koen|slug: yes... i tested it in gpe-calendar yesterday, so it shold work properly. |
| 10:22.24 | florian_hrz | hi mickey|tv |
| 10:24.01 | mickeyl | morning |
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| 10:25.20 | koen|slug | hey mickeyl |
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| 10:25.29 | koen|slug | hey jsmanrique |
| 10:25.40 | jsmanrique | hi! |
| 10:26.50 | florian_hrz | hi jsmanrique, hi ade|desk |
| 10:26.54 | jsmanrique | has someone seen this[1] eInk prototypes? [1] http://www.positron.org/projects/h2/index.shtml |
| 10:27.10 | jsmanrique | using gumstix inside (and linux of course) |
| 10:33.56 | florian_hrz | jsmanrique: I saw an earlier prototype at Cebit last year. Very impressive... |
| 10:35.30 | jsmanrique | this guy has some working prototypes very impressive.. |
| 10:35.57 | jsmanrique | I think what could be done with this, if it would be able to read plucker, pdf, txt and html books.. |
| 10:36.03 | jsmanrique | and load some extra apps :) |
| 10:37.23 | jsmanrique | and this one looks even better: http://www.positron.org/projects/A51/ |
| 10:38.44 | jsmanrique | and thinking about the future.. each morning connect with your newspapers rss feeds and download them to your ereader.. and that's the way |
| 10:39.09 | jsmanrique | could notes be taken on this devices? and some pim apps? :) |
| 10:49.19 | *** topic/#gpe by Philippe_work -> The GPE Palmtop Environment - http://gpe.handhelds.org/ | GPE Wiki: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GPEProject |familiar snapshots: http://familiar.handhelds.org/snapshots/ | Development Manual (in progress): http://www.kernelconcepts.de/~fuchs/gpe/doc/devmanual/ | GPE 2.7 freeze tomorrow on 1 september |
| 10:50.42 | rob_w | freeze , nice |
| 10:51.05 | rob_w | my BBMASK doesnt exclude a broken package |
| 10:52.47 | Philippe_work | rob_w, you could of course just delete it from the openembedded tree on your system... |
| 10:53.30 | rob_w | u mean deleting the particular package ? |
| 10:57.43 | koen|slug | yes |
| 10:58.37 | jsmanrique | freeze? |
| 10:58.49 | jsmanrique | I can feel the ice inside :) |
| 11:00.12 | koen|slug | less than ~4 weeks ;) |
| 11:02.18 | Philippe_work | let's hope so :-) |
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| 11:02.28 | koen|slug | hey florian_kc |
| 11:02.39 | florian_kc | re |
| 11:03.06 | Philippe_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:03.17 | Philippe_work | some comments are getting bold... |
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| 11:05.03 | florian_kc | hmm wait |
| 11:07.16 | florian_kc | Philippe_work: {quote: <text>} |
| 11:07.46 | Philippe_work | I tried that and it did not seem to work... Well lets try again |
| 11:08.10 | florian_kc | Philippe_work: i see why... try to indent the whole code, that should work as well. |
| 11:08.15 | rob_w | how can i find out wher a certain package .bb is listed ? |
| 11:08.21 | jsmanrique | florian_kc: would those eink devices be able to run some pim apps? |
| 11:08.24 | florian_kc | C contains { nad } |
| 11:08.51 | florian_kc | jsmanrique: not yet... but i cam imagine that might work some time. |
| 11:08.53 | jsmanrique | florian_kc: or just the possibility of taking notes over the books |
| 11:09.21 | jsmanrique | florian_kc: just people do in Library's books nowadays :( |
| 11:09.41 | rob_w | found it , never mind |
| 11:09.58 | jsmanrique | florian_kc: eInk Corporation is thinking about providing eInk prototypes for developers ;) |
| 11:10.15 | jsmanrique | florian_kc: I have made some contacts in gumstix mailing list :) |
| 11:10.54 | koen|slug | gaffatape |
| 11:11.31 | Philippe_work | koen, :-) unfortunately they don't have connection boards that can be used decently for that. |
| 11:11.42 | jsmanrique | Philippe_work: isn't there anything in their wiki about that? |
| 11:12.01 | jsmanrique | Philippe_work: if they sold a lcd+gumstix... |
| 11:12.25 | koen|slug | Philippe_work: there are usb-lcds |
| 11:12.31 | koen|slug | and usb-vga adapters |
| 11:12.39 | koen|slug | usb-vga is ~70 euros |
| 11:12.48 | jsmanrique | usb-vga? and does it work? |
| 11:13.11 | Philippe_work | jsmanrique, I took a look around and the audio board only has the touch stuff connected (however there are pads for the lcd too) |
| 11:13.15 | koen|slug | see http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddVGAAdapter |
| 11:13.38 | Philippe_work | And there should be a connection for the lcd on another board.... |
| 11:14.04 | Philippe_work | But I want audio, touch and lcd.... without having to design a whole new board |
| 11:15.53 | jsmanrique | koen|slug: so it could work with BlackDog device: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8562564746.html |
| 11:16.15 | jsmanrique | koen|slug: I can't imagine that! |
| 11:16.31 | koen|slug | blackdog only has usbclient afaik |
| 11:16.50 | florian_kc | koen|slug: We should translate http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GPEToFixFor2_2e7 into bugs... |
| 11:16.52 | jsmanrique | I see |
| 11:16.53 | jsmanrique | :( |
| 11:16.58 | jsmanrique | we are near the future |
| 11:17.11 | jsmanrique | your computer and data in your pocket |
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| 11:17.41 | jsmanrique | and tons of device to interact with it around.. and you could plug a keyboard (BT) and a LCD or VGA... |
| 11:18.08 | koen|slug | you can have all that! |
| 11:18.13 | koen|slug | with a PDA :) |
| 11:18.48 | jsmanrique | right |
| 11:18.57 | jsmanrique | that's the idea (when n770 arrives) |
| 11:20.33 | Philippe_work | ok florian_kc I found a satisfying workaround... <html> ... </html> for the code in the wiki problem |
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| 11:20.44 | mimecar | hi |
| 11:20.48 | jsmanrique | mimecar: hi |
| 11:20.54 | mimecar | hey jsmanrique |
| 11:21.10 | koen|slug | hey mimecar |
| 11:21.33 | mimecar | hi koen|slug |
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| 12:08.51 | fng_sma | hello |
| 12:10.15 | fng_sma | koen: Thanks for your tests. I'm currently making some bigger changes. I will tell you when I'm finished. |
| 12:14.27 | koen|slug | cool |
| 12:14.32 | koen|slug | and hello :) |
| 12:14.50 | fng_sma | koen|slug: Really a BIG thanks for your tests! |
| 12:16.04 | koen|slug | fwiw msynctool does a better job than the gui |
| 12:16.40 | fng_sma | koen|slug: I think so too. The gui is far from being finished. |
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| 12:52.13 | koen | fng_sma: did you track down why it segfaults? |
| 12:53.42 | fng_sma | koen: no, not yet. I found another bug: If something gets added while syncing, it will be synced the next time too from gpe to the other member. That's what I'm hacking currently. |
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| 13:07.08 | Philippe_work | anyone tried this ? http://www.selenic.com/mercurial/wiki/ (for replacing monotone :-) ) |
| 13:07.21 | koen|slug | not really |
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| 13:07.36 | koen|slug | if it has to replace monotone it has to have *HUGE* benefits |
| 13:07.42 | koen|slug | not just 'being faster' |
| 13:07.47 | koen|slug | hey jamey |
| 13:09.06 | jamey | hi koen |
| 13:10.24 | robtaylor | koen|slug: heh. yeah i get that feeling too ;) |
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| 13:24.30 | koen | hey mallum |
| 13:25.05 | mallum | hey hey koen |
| 13:26.05 | Philippe_work | good afternoon mallum |
| 13:26.20 | mallum | hey Philippe |
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| 13:26.49 | koen | hey florian_kc |
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| 13:36.34 | Philippe_work | that List of device support mentors. is a great idea! |
| 13:37.51 | mickeyl | excellent |
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| 13:38.56 | bedboi | hi there |
| 13:39.04 | koen | hey bedboi |
| 13:39.11 | bedboi | hey koen |
| 13:58.20 | bedboi | florian_kc: there? |
| 13:58.26 | bedboi | i just read your botmail |
| 13:59.20 | koen | aargh |
| 13:59.30 | koen | ubuntu now ships .o modules for 2.6 kernels |
| 13:59.30 | bedboi | koen: what? |
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| 13:59.37 | bedboi | koen: ? |
| 13:59.38 | koen | which obviously doesn't work |
| 13:59.58 | XorA | koen: heh heh |
| 14:02.22 | koen | /lib/linux-restricted-modules/2.6.12-8-k7-smp/fglrx/fglrx.mod.o |
| 14:02.30 | koen | how sane is that |
| 14:02.43 | Philippe_work | INsane |
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| 14:04.37 | fng_sma | hi pb_ |
| 14:06.35 | pb_ | hi fng_sma |
| 14:08.37 | Philippe_work | hello pb_ . |
| 14:08.54 | Philippe_work | any objections if I make myself maintainer of gpe-timesheet? |
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| 14:15.55 | florian_kc | re |
| 14:15.59 | bedboi | hey florian_kc |
| 14:16.12 | florian_kc | bedboi: yes... now... we fell off the net before lunch. |
| 14:21.30 | florian_kc | ~lart gpe-what |
| 14:23.59 | koen | heh |
| 14:24.13 | koen | krokas doesn't seem to grasp the whole cvs thing |
| 14:24.21 | koen | 16:19 < CIA-3> krokas * gpe/base/gpe-dotnet/pnet/pnet.tar.gz: |
| 14:25.16 | bedboi | a propose of, is there any news about SoC / |
| 14:25.17 | bedboi | ? |
| 14:26.39 | bedboi | florian_kc: what about your gpe-calendar hacks? |
| 14:27.17 | Philippe_work | krokas also needs to learn to add comments... |
| 14:33.04 | MrRhinoMan | Hey folks, haven't been around in a while. Any catches with the current gpe kit and kismet using an Orinoco Gold card ? (or Florian, prismstumbler will do as well :) ) |
| 14:34.12 | florian_kc | bedboi: Not that much... i rewrote the toolbar stuff to use the new toolbar API and changed the vcal import to work with latest libmimedir. |
| 14:34.46 | florian_kc | MrRhinoMan: It might depend on the device, but in the hh.org kernel tree we have the monitor patch imho. |
| 14:35.35 | pb_ | hi florian_kc |
| 14:35.46 | pb_ | Philippe_work: none from me, but check with florian_kc. |
| 14:35.58 | pb_ | judging from yesterday's cvs logs, though, it looks like you already appointed yourself the maintainer |
| 14:36.04 | MrRhinoMan | florian_kc: Ipaq 3850 with single-slot pcmcia sleeve |
| 14:36.57 | florian_kc | MrRhinoMan: should work |
| 14:37.23 | florian_kc | pb_: we discussed this yesterday... its okay from my point of view. |
| 14:37.38 | Philippe_work | pb_, I already checked it with florian_kc yesterday and he said it would be okay. I jusy had to warn you to see if you had any objection. |
| 14:37.53 | Philippe_work | s/jusy/just/ |
| 14:38.56 | MrRhinoMan | Any release as opposed to current I should be looking for, with the monitor patch included ? |
| 14:39.02 | florian_kc | pb_: I checked in an update to make gpe-bluetooth, gpe-calendar, gpe-contacts and gpe-multisync work with the new libmimedir API. |
| 14:39.15 | florian_kc | #516 this is... |
| 14:40.05 | florian_kc | MrRhinoMan: we should have this in for years now... try "iwconfig <device> mode monitor" |
| 14:40.42 | MrRhinoMan | florian_kc: I remember there being some issues with the Orinoco back in late 2004/early 2005. Will give it a try and let you know. |
| 14:42.32 | florian_kc | MrRhinoMan: okay |
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| 14:51.10 | koen | eeks! |
| 14:51.25 | koen | the graphing calculator makefile if full of 'g++ foo.cpp' |
| 14:52.52 | florian_kc | hello jamey |
| 14:54.47 | jamey | hi florian_kc |
| 14:56.06 | pb_ | florian_kc: awesome |
| 14:56.13 | pb_ | hi jamey |
| 14:56.26 | jamey | hi pb_ |
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| 14:57.28 | koen | tigrux: hola |
| 14:57.57 | tigrux | Hola koen. Buen dia. |
| 14:59.00 | Philippe_work | hola tigrux |
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| 14:59.27 | tigrux | Philippe_work: Learning Spanish also? Hola. |
| 15:01.43 | DrPepper | hey tigrux |
| 15:01.53 | Philippe_work | tigrux, no not yet. Finnish would be more appropriate now. |
| 15:02.51 | koen | kuolema tekee taitcilijan |
| 15:02.58 | tigrux | He he!! It is official, koen will come to mexico in a tour plenty of music, girls and beer. |
| 15:04.49 | jamey | heh |
| 15:05.42 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 15:06.54 | XorA | finnish pr0n? |
| 15:07.17 | koen | Philippe_work: from the back of a Nightwish CD |
| 15:07.43 | Philippe_work | koen, :-) |
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| 15:18.20 | Kompo | Heh, nightwish rocks :) |
| 15:19.32 | koen | they sure do |
| 15:23.32 | florian_kc | Philippe_work: ! |
| 15:24.22 | florian_kc | Well... i might miss the first one or two days too, i'll have a business trip before. |
| 15:24.41 | Philippe_work | I am in the middle of an international move then... |
| 15:25.11 | Philippe_work | one month later would have been great.. |
| 15:25.15 | florian_kc | Philippe_work: hmm right, that might become complicated... |
| 15:25.52 | florian_kc | Philippe_work: I hope they don't eat you like luc who seems to have dissapeared ;-) |
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| 15:28.01 | Philippe_work | florian_kc, good thing I just got an update on artic survival techniques :-) |
| 15:30.12 | fng_sma | koen: okay, go! |
| 15:30.17 | koen | /me goes |
| 15:31.01 | bedboi | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.27518.png -> what's this? |
| 15:31.26 | koen | http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/rco/ |
| 15:31.45 | koen | handwriting recognition library |
| 15:32.22 | fng_sma | I think it's amazing to write something like that. I would have really no clue, where to start there... |
| 15:32.48 | bedboi | koen: is it new? |
| 15:32.55 | bedboi | i never heard about it |
| 15:33.08 | florian_kc | Philippe_work: hehe... very useful! it will become cold there soon... |
| 15:34.40 | koen | bedboi: pretty new, it's one the google SoCs |
| 15:39.09 | koen | fng_sma: Error writing entry pas-id-43158A6E00000000 to member 2: Timeout while waiting for a reply to message "COMMIT_CHANGE" |
| 15:39.12 | koen | Mapping Write Error: Timeout while waiting for a reply to message "COMMIT_CHANGE" |
| 15:39.32 | koen | evo2 -> gpesyncd |
| 15:40.20 | fng_sma | koen: did you also update the gpesyncd? |
| 15:40.38 | koen | yes |
| 15:41.46 | fng_sma | koen: can you recreate the sync group and try it again? |
| 15:43.31 | MrRhinoMan | Any suggestions for a terminal client (managing router/switch from ipaq) for vt100 operation ? |
| 15:45.59 | koen | fng_sma: same timeout, no segfault |
| 15:47.17 | fng_sma | koen: can you remove your ~/.opensync directory, because opensync keeps track of old states and they might produce some problems |
| 15:47.44 | koen | I removed .opensync/group* |
| 15:52.47 | koen | fng_sma: do you want the traces of the evo-gpe sync? |
| 15:53.42 | fng_sma | koen: yes, but delete them and then run it again, otherwise there is data of all your syncs. |
| 15:54.23 | koen | I'm only syncing with one vcard |
| 15:54.42 | koen | and I just deleted them :) |
| 15:55.23 | hrw|work | cu |
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| 15:56.07 | koen | fng_sma: sent |
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| 15:58.17 | koen | fng_sma: basic gpe-gpe sync does work |
| 15:58.34 | koen | I can't really test that as gpe-contacts still uses the old libmimedir api |
| 15:59.10 | fng_sma | koen: could you try to sync the vcard without the photo. Because I think the receive buffer ist too small for it. |
| 16:00.31 | koen | Error writing entry pas-id-43158A6E00000000 to member 2: Couldn't process answer form gpesyncd: UNKNOWN ERROR |
| 16:00.35 | koen | Mapping Write Error: Couldn't process answer form gpesyncd: UNKNOWN ERROR |
| 16:00.37 | koen | Segmentation fault |
| 16:01.13 | fng_sma | koen: is that the result when syncing without the photo? |
| 16:01.24 | koen | yes |
| 16:02.30 | fng_sma | koen: could you please run gpesyncd, and enter then "add vcard " and then paste in the vcard? |
| 16:03.16 | fng_sma | koen: (I mean paste the vcard into gpesyncd). |
| 16:03.31 | koen | koen@drone:~$ gpesyncd |
| 16:03.31 | koen | add vcard |
| 16:03.31 | koen | ** (process:3272): CRITICAL **: mimedir_profile_parse: assertion `string != NULL' failed |
| 16:03.35 | koen | Segmentation fault |
| 16:04.36 | koen | oh wait |
| 16:04.38 | fng_sma | koen: Oh, this is fun: It works without problems on my computer... |
| 16:04.50 | koen | add vcard<enter> -> segfault |
| 16:05.20 | koen | 'add vcard <vcard>' success |
| 16:06.16 | koen | fng_sma: http://pastebin.com/351075 |
| 16:08.37 | koen | fng_sma: can the segaults be caused by spurious newlines ? |
| 16:08.44 | fng_sma | koen: Those errors are okay. They are from libmimedir and those are the features that it is still missing or it doesn't want to parse. |
| 16:09.51 | bedboi | florian_kc: still there? |
| 16:09.52 | koen | the imported vcard synced ok between ipaq and z |
| 16:10.06 | florian_kc | bedboi: yes |
| 16:10.12 | fng_sma | koen: as you can see in Thread3066428336.log the vcard doesn't get transferred completely to the pda. It stops because the buffer is full (gpe-sync: 1024 bytes, gpesyncd 2048 bytes). |
| 16:10.49 | bedboi | florian_kc: in your botmail you said you saw my patch... Where did you get it? I don't remember where i posted it :) |
| 16:11.08 | koen | ~fishslap bedboi for losing patches |
| 16:11.10 | ibot | ACTION slaps bedboi up side the head with a wet fish for losing patches |
| 16:11.24 | bedboi | koen: i still have the patch :) |
| 16:11.41 | bedboi | btw, it's ages that i don't work on gpe-calendar |
| 16:11.58 | florian_kc | bedboi: ah... you sent me one a very long time ago. |
| 16:12.00 | bedboi | and i don't remember if the gpe-announce patch was submitted |
| 16:12.07 | bedboi | florian_kc: ah, yes |
| 16:12.33 | koen | fng_sma: would increasing the buffer size help? |
| 16:12.49 | fng_sma | koen: we can try... I'm on my way. |
| 16:13.02 | koen | make it really large :) |
| 16:15.23 | fng_sma | koen: I made it 8192 bytes. Try it again. |
| 16:25.29 | fng_sma | koen: Are you so amazed that it works, or did the bus you mentioned in your mail hit you? :-) |
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| 16:28.50 | shiyee | ~hail koen-the-onion-saver |
| 16:28.51 | ibot | ACTION bows down to koen-the-onion-saver and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 16:29.02 | shiyee | ;-) |
| 16:30.09 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 16:30.17 | koen | :) |
| 16:33.58 | koen | fng_sma: still not a success |
| 16:34.12 | koen | I did manage to end up with a dupe in evo |
| 16:34.45 | koen | mimedir-filtered of course |
| 16:35.25 | koen | traces sent |
| 16:37.19 | koen | mey mreimer |
| 16:37.25 | mreimer | hey koen |
| 16:38.10 | mreimer | I finally got that rootfs to boot on my h2200--turns out I needed to tweak the mmc driver to set a longer timeout. Now I can look at the serial & usb net issue (happening for me too) |
| 16:45.56 | fng_sma | koen: it didn't say "The sync was successfull" in the end? |
| 16:46.13 | koen | after 5 minutes I ctrl-ced it |
| 16:46.43 | koen | cu |
| 16:48.30 | fng_sma | koen: okay... Looks like the data from evolution has some empty contacts. Could you check if the number of contacts in evolution is the same as are listed in it? |
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| 16:53.10 | fng_sma | koen: you can see them if you select all, then there are some empty contacts. |
| 16:54.05 | fng_sma | Then also delete again the .opensync directory, because it probably has still the null contacts. |
| 17:01.30 | koen | null contacts deleted, recreacted contacts db on gpe |
| 17:02.29 | koen | The sync failed: Unable to write one or more objects |
| 17:02.29 | koen | *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x0808a310 *** |
| 17:02.29 | koen | Aborted |
| 17:03.47 | bedboi | bye all |
| 17:03.50 | bedboi | see you later |
| 17:04.06 | koen | fng_sma: sent you the traces |
| 17:19.35 | mreimer | koen|slug: I got the serial console working by HUP'ing getty |
| 17:20.12 | koen | I noticed yesterday I could type 'root' real fast right after the prompt appeared |
| 17:20.24 | koen | then it refused input |
| 17:20.47 | mreimer | I wonder if that has to do with udev? maybe it needs to be started sooner |
| 17:21.16 | mreimer | we pretty much have to fix udev before familiar-0.8.3, right? |
| 17:23.26 | koen | yes |
| 17:23.50 | pH5 | koen: yay, udev. which conf/machine/*.conf is this? |
| 17:24.21 | koen | note that 0.8.3 will get released when all showstoppers (udev,alsa,i18n, opie +gpe releases) have been fixed |
| 17:24.50 | koen | it doesn't have a fixed release date |
| 17:26.25 | fng_sma | koen: I'll test it on my other computer and I'll give my laptop a small rest. I'll be back in about 30 minutes. |
| 17:32.24 | koen | mickeyl: http://dri.freedesktop.org/~jonsmirl/graphics.html |
| 17:33.33 | florian_kc | bbl |
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| 17:36.55 | phroz_wrk | hellos |
| 17:37.52 | koen | hey phroz_wrk |
| 17:38.16 | phroz_wrk | does anyone happen to know of a web browser that can go full screen? |
| 17:38.23 | phroz_wrk | like 100% fullscreen |
| 17:38.36 | phroz_wrk | minimo does it, but you still see the bar at the top |
| 17:38.38 | koen | gpe-mini-browser |
| 17:38.47 | phroz_wrk | ah, yea.. im working on installing that now actually |
| 17:38.58 | phroz_wrk | somewhat new to linux tho, first time compile |
| 17:39.01 | phroz_wrk | :) |
| 17:39.11 | koen | and if that doesn't do what you want Philippe is probably happy to add it to the TODO |
| 17:39.28 | phroz_wrk | that'd be great |
| 17:40.05 | phroz_wrk | the only thing i could see that would be a problem with it would be on how youd get back to the desktop if all you saw was a webpage. tho i spose one of the buttons on the pda could do that |
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| 17:40.49 | mimecar | hi |
| 17:40.57 | phroz_wrk | hi mimecar |
| 17:41.05 | mimecar | hi phroz_wrk |
| 17:42.14 | phroz_wrk | you know if http://ipkgfind.handhelds.org is a pretty complete source of packages that are out there? or mabye any other sites like it? i found some stuff i need to isntall, tho.. im somewhat new to compiling source and packages are jsut so much easier :) |
| 17:42.57 | koen | that has 30k packages |
| 17:43.15 | phroz_wrk | hah, i guess ill have to complie some stuff then :) |
| 17:43.37 | koen | if you're adventurous (and want to see how buggy my ipkgfind rewrite is): http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/drupal/?q=ipkgfind&action=package |
| 17:43.55 | mimecar | phroz_wrk: you can find packages for familiar distribution |
| 17:43.59 | phroz_wrk | ill give it a shot :D |
| 17:44.07 | mimecar | hi koen |
| 17:44.16 | koen | hola mimecar |
| 17:44.19 | phroz_wrk | yea, right now im trying to get gpe-mini-browser installed |
| 17:44.46 | phroz_wrk | which i think im at a step where i need glib-gettextize and intltoolize |
| 17:45.06 | mimecar | koen: can you speak spanish ? |
| 17:45.08 | phroz_wrk | nice site design koen |
| 17:45.14 | phroz_wrk | very clean |
| 17:45.21 | koen | mimecar: I'm trying too |
| 17:45.34 | koen | mimecar: for now it's 'beach, beer and hello' |
| 17:45.35 | mimecar | is not easy |
| 17:45.43 | mimecar | party ;) |
| 17:45.52 | koen | phroz_wrk: that's a standard drupal theme :) |
| 17:45.59 | phroz_wrk | ah |
| 17:46.06 | phroz_wrk | well its nice :) |
| 17:49.12 | mimecar | phroz_wrk: is gpe-minibrowser on familiar feed, aren't you ? |
| 17:49.58 | phroz_wrk | i have the familiar feed, cant find it tho |
| 17:50.42 | phroz_wrk | ipkgfind i thought would have it as well, but no |
| 17:50.46 | mimecar | koen your zaurus feed won't run on ipaq ? |
| 17:50.49 | phroz_wrk | i did find the source |
| 17:51.17 | koen | mimecar: you can't mix hardfloat and softfloat feeds |
| 17:51.25 | mimecar | ok |
| 17:51.36 | koen | that's why I have /feed and /sfeed :) |
| 17:51.37 | phroz_wrk | oh yea, i did find it on koens |
| 17:53.08 | phroz_wrk | lets give this a shot :D |
| 17:56.18 | mimecar | is "development manual" for dummies ? |
| 17:58.31 | mimecar | koen: have you go to Egypt ? |
| 17:58.51 | koen | mimecar: not yet |
| 17:59.02 | mimecar | you have some photos on your web |
| 17:59.08 | koen | ah yes |
| 17:59.18 | koen | my parents went to egypt (and Jordan) |
| 17:59.41 | mimecar | cool |
| 17:59.52 | phroz_wrk | where are you guys from? |
| 18:00.22 | mimecar | spain |
| 18:00.32 | koen | the netherlands |
| 18:01.50 | phroz_wrk | ah, nice. havent been to either |
| 18:02.05 | mimecar | phroz_wrk: and you ? |
| 18:02.18 | phroz_wrk | right outside of DC in virginia, usa |
| 18:03.28 | mimecar | near... |
| 18:04.20 | phroz_wrk | about 15 minutes from DC |
| 18:04.47 | phroz_wrk | ..? |
| 18:04.52 | phroz_wrk | white house, etc |
| 18:04.54 | mimecar | and 30 minutes from the other part of the sea |
| 18:04.56 | mimecar | :p |
| 18:05.10 | mimecar | is 11 am ? |
| 18:05.15 | phroz_wrk | heh |
| 18:05.20 | phroz_wrk | heh? 2pm |
| 18:05.29 | mimecar | o yes, eight hours |
| 18:05.41 | mimecar | no, six |
| 18:05.46 | phroz_wrk | hah |
| 18:06.21 | phroz_wrk | koen, thanks! |
| 18:06.25 | phroz_wrk | your feed is awesome |
| 18:06.33 | phroz_wrk | def helped me out a lot |
| 18:06.52 | koen | pure laziness on my part |
| 18:07.06 | koen | it does slow down ipkg too much |
| 18:08.02 | phroz_wrk | :/ |
| 18:08.08 | phroz_wrk | no more space left on my ipaq |
| 18:08.22 | mimecar | phroz_wrk: do you install packages on sd ? |
| 18:08.23 | koen | try removing the ipkg lists |
| 18:08.36 | koen | /usr/lib/ipkg/list* |
| 18:08.46 | phroz_wrk | on sd? |
| 18:08.53 | phroz_wrk | ill try that out koen |
| 18:09.01 | phroz_wrk | once it lets me do anything |
| 18:09.42 | mimecar | phroz_wrk: my zaurus has 1.3 MB free |
| 18:10.02 | mimecar | I have move full system to sd and I have 400 MB now |
| 18:10.04 | phroz_wrk | i forgot what this one even holds. just got it a bit ago for work |
| 18:10.19 | phroz_wrk | yea, i need to get a sd for this thing |
| 18:11.00 | mimecar | is useful |
| 18:11.15 | phroz_wrk | def. i have an axim which is my own with a 1GB sd |
| 18:11.35 | phroz_wrk | i love the axim, cant wait for linux to be ready to install on it |
| 18:12.22 | phroz_wrk | think i just killed my ipaq.. not booting anymore :/ |
| 18:12.24 | mimecar | phroz_wrk: i have the same fealing with a palm model |
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| 18:12.47 | phroz_wrk | what palm do you have? |
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| 18:13.12 | mimecar | zire71 |
| 18:13.23 | mimecar | a very good screen and battery duration |
| 18:14.03 | mimecar | i have a zaurus now, but zaurus has fewer features than palm |
| 18:14.07 | phroz_wrk | oh, nice. |
| 18:14.17 | phroz_wrk | the screen on teh axim is great |
| 18:14.17 | mimecar | screen, battery, accesries... |
| 18:14.23 | phroz_wrk | 640x480 |
| 18:14.32 | mreimer | koen: yep, udevstart is what killed getty |
| 18:14.35 | mimecar | i can see zaurus lines if i move it fastly |
| 18:14.45 | phroz_wrk | i found a lil app for windows ce that overclocked it to 1.014GHz |
| 18:15.11 | koen | mreimer: stinking udev |
| 18:15.28 | mimecar | how many time before crash with that velocity ? |
| 18:15.44 | mreimer | koen: it'll be nice when the udev conversion is done--should run lots faster than all those hotplug scripts |
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| 18:16.09 | koen | yeah |
| 18:16.17 | koen | udev conversion, pcmcia conversion.... |
| 18:16.24 | mreimer | boot from pcmcia :-) |
| 18:16.52 | MrRhinoMan | anyone know the happy way to spawn kismet from a button and not have ths scrollbar visible ? |
| 18:18.09 | koen | try the keys and buttons config |
| 18:18.47 | MrRhinoMan | koen: Seem to remember spawning with rxvt, but either flags have changed, or there's some funky terminal/colour mojo required |
| 18:21.36 | MrRhinoMan | Also noticing that terminals that are closed (control-d or window close) aren't dying off. They still show as an active task as well (gpe-3600-200504071447) |
| 18:23.51 | JiniDog | when I start gxine the following error occurs: |
| 18:23.52 | JiniDog | bind: No such file or directory |
| 18:24.04 | JiniDog | has anyone an idea why? |
| 18:24.19 | koen | gxine never worked over here |
| 18:24.36 | JiniDog | the openzaurus gxine worked for me |
| 18:26.06 | mimecar | JiniDog: i can run gxine without problems on zaurus |
| 18:26.57 | XorA | koen: works here |
| 18:27.11 | koen|slug | XorA: sound doesn't work here |
| 18:27.27 | XorA | koen|slug: oh, never tried sound :-) |
| 18:27.47 | XorA | JiniDog: do you have a lo network device, bound to 127.0.0.1 |
| 18:28.41 | koen | D'oh |
| 18:30.29 | XorA | koen: If fam uses same scripts for if-pre-up then it will suffer bug as well |
| 18:30.58 | JiniDog | XorA, yes |
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| 18:31.45 | XorA | JiniDog: thats me out of suggestions |
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| 18:43.52 | mimecar | hey fng_sma |
| 18:44.02 | fng_sma | hi mimecar |
| 18:44.24 | koen | hey fng_sma |
| 18:44.33 | fng_sma | koen|slug: I wasn't (unfortunately?) able to reproduce your error... |
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| 18:46.06 | fng_sma | koen|slug: Can you remove your entire .opensync directory, and delete all the contacts on either evolution or gpe and try it again? |
| 18:46.24 | koen | did that before |
| 18:48.06 | fng_sma | and can you delete even the whole .gpe/contacts file or delete all entries with sqlite in it? |
| 18:50.22 | fng_sma | and delete all null contacts. |
| 18:50.43 | koen | ok |
| 18:50.50 | koen | .opensync -> deleted |
| 18:50.56 | koen | .gpe/contacts -> deleted |
| 18:52.12 | koen | contacts in evo2 -> deleted |
| 18:52.53 | koen | recreated syncgroup |
| 18:54.24 | Philippe | re |
| 18:54.37 | mimecar | hey Philippe |
| 18:58.16 | Philippe | hey mimecar |
| 18:58.46 | mimecar | can I use glade for develop gpe apps ? |
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| 19:01.58 | koen | fng_sma: you have mail |
| 19:08.01 | JiniDog | some gpe-apps fails to compile for me, because they need #include <locale.h> |
| 19:14.55 | mimecar | should gpe applications have menu bar ? is there some human interface style ? |
| 19:17.44 | Philippe | mimecar, we are still writing up stuff but most of your questions are probabely already answered in the wiki |
| 19:17.55 | Philippe | btw you can use glade for gpe apps |
| 19:18.13 | mimecar | Philippe: ok, i'm drawing interface with glade |
| 19:18.44 | mimecar | i would like do a port of an application and look and feel is different with gpe |
| 19:19.28 | Philippe | phroz_wrk : is the fullscreen of gpe-mini-browser good enough for you or do you wish to see the whole bar dissapear in future releases? |
| 19:20.35 | koen | Philippe: is it possible to do something like gnome-panel does when it's 'hidden' ? |
| 19:20.55 | koen | a small line which moves into view when moving the pointer to that location? |
| 19:20.59 | fng_sma | hello everybody, I'm Katrina (Martin's girlfriend) and I just wanted to drop a line and say: Please get this thing (complete laymen with computers) working! |
| 19:21.11 | koen | :) |
| 19:21.24 | shiyee | mimecar: which app are you porting+ |
| 19:21.33 | fng_sma | We wanna go on holidays, you see... |
| 19:21.34 | mimecar | is a palm application |
| 19:21.38 | shiyee | ok |
| 19:21.49 | koen | fng_sma (Katrina) it will be over in a few days :) |
| 19:22.24 | fng_sma | thanks for helping so far: I even got him to spend a whole full dinner with me |
| 19:23.14 | Philippe | koen, I'll look into it (me still has a lot of GTK knowledge to pick up) |
| 19:23.32 | mimecar | fng_sma: what day do you go out ? |
| 19:23.48 | fng_sma | Tomorrow night.... |
| 19:24.02 | fng_sma | are we leaving for Spain... |
| 19:24.14 | koen | Philippe: it's a lot easier to have no gtk knowledge and make requests |
| 19:24.21 | Philippe | koen, :-) |
| 19:24.31 | mimecar | fng_sma: I finish my exams tomorrow |
| 19:24.42 | mimecar | I will after my holidays tomorrow also :p |
| 19:25.18 | Philippe | fng_sma, (Katrina) have fun tomorrow! |
| 19:26.02 | fng_sma | good luck with your exam, Philippe! |
| 19:26.22 | fng_sma | OH, I mixed the names up, ment minecar |
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| 19:26.41 | Philippe | fng_sma, no prob :-) |
| 19:26.54 | fng_sma | looks like someone has used my computer... hmmmhh... |
| 19:27.33 | Philippe | fng_sma, takes his axe and brutally murders the culprit :-) |
| 19:27.42 | JiniDog | What do you give me when I tell you who it was? |
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| 19:28.09 | fng_sma | Philippe: no, I think I won't. :-) |
| 19:29.01 | mimecar | fng_sma: xDDD |
| 19:30.16 | mimecar | fng_sma: is windows.. |
| 19:31.40 | fng_sma | koen: oh I can't find the problem... argh! |
| 19:32.52 | fng_sma | Can someone else try the gpe-sync plugin? |
| 19:35.45 | mimecar | good bye |
| 19:35.58 | mimecar | good holidays fng_sma (we have SUN) |
| 19:40.30 | fng_sma | pb_: hello |
| 19:40.37 | pb_ | hi fng_sma |
| 19:41.42 | koen | pH5: set the CVSDATE_gpesyncd=20050901 |
| 19:41.53 | koen | otherwise you'll get the old sources |
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| 19:42.43 | Philippe | mallum, I can confirm that your fix for the modal window stuff works okay! Thanks for fixing |
| 19:42.50 | fng_sma | pb_: I used lots of your code and modified it and now I wonder how (or if) I should mention this in the head of the files. |
| 19:42.59 | pH5 | koen: thanks, i always keep forgetting that |
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| 19:43.32 | koen | pH5: it took me a few tries to figure out bitbake was trying to say 'repo doesn't exist at midnight' at first |
| 19:44.31 | fng_sma | pb_: It's because of the licencsing stuff. |
| 19:46.20 | Philippe | fng_sma, good practice would be a little note style: With some borrowed code from <app> courtesy of <pb> |
| 19:46.28 | pb_ | fng_sma: You aren't obliged to mention that sort of thing in the header comments, but it is generally considered polite to put a small note if you have used a significant amount of code. Something like "Parts of this file are derived from..." would be fine. |
| 19:46.40 | pb_ | or, yeah, what Philippe said. |
| 19:47.32 | fng_sma | Okay that sounds good. Because I would really feel bad if I just put my name on it. |
| 19:47.58 | pb_ | bbiab, going to sit in the garden with a glass of Merlot for a little while |
| 19:48.07 | mickeyl | have fun. sounds like a good idea |
| 19:48.08 | fng_sma | pb_: Enjoy it! |
| 19:48.31 | Philippe | pb_, enjoy |
| 19:52.14 | koen | ~lart loadswitched sockets |
| 19:52.32 | koen | apparently my monitor has multiple powersaving modes |
| 19:53.12 | koen | it suddenly went very quiet over here :) |
| 19:53.29 | koen | fng_sma: do you use evo 2.2 or evo 2.4 ? |
| 19:53.46 | koen | it could be my breezy install is causing proplems |
| 19:53.51 | koen | problems even |
| 19:54.16 | fng_sma | It worked with both for me... |
| 19:54.33 | fng_sma | On the one computer I have evo 2.2 and on this evo 2.4 :-( |
| 19:54.40 | koen | hmmm |
| 19:55.03 | koen | gpe <> gpe syncing seems to be ok |
| 19:56.09 | koen | the segfaults on unexpected input (like newlines) is worrying me a bit |
| 19:56.52 | pH5 | does gpesyncd need libmimedir cvs? |
| 19:56.57 | koen | yes |
| 19:57.13 | koen | which breaks the rest of gpe-pim |
| 19:57.18 | pH5 | nice :) |
| 19:57.31 | koen | the fixes are already in CVS |
| 20:02.14 | fng_sma | pH5: If you are interested in testing it, I could try to backport it. |
| 20:02.44 | pH5 | fng_sma: It's ok, I'm just building libmimedir |
| 20:02.55 | fng_sma | pH5: cool, thx! |
| 20:03.31 | pH5 | and now gpesyncd. how do I use it? |
| 20:03.48 | koen | ipkg install gpesyncd |
| 20:03.53 | pH5 | :) |
| 20:04.01 | koen | and install opensync + gpe-sync on your workstation |
| 20:04.04 | fng_sma | pH5: you just have it installed. The plugin will make queries to it. |
| 20:04.20 | pH5 | cool, that sounds easy enough for me. |
| 20:04.34 | koen | and multisync0.90 |
| 20:05.05 | fng_sma | pH5: You can also try to run it in "manual mode". With it you can import or export vcards and vcals (although vcals are a little limited). |
| 20:14.23 | koen | fng_sma: is there an 'first sync option' ? |
| 20:14.40 | fng_sma | koen: I don't know what you mean... |
| 20:14.52 | koen | that will merge all info from both devices |
| 20:15.32 | fng_sma | koen: Oh I think that is called a "slow sync" in opensync. |
| 20:15.53 | koen | ah, ok |
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| 20:16.13 | fng_sma | koen: It should be made for the first time automatically, otherwise you can do it with a --slow-sync <objtype>. |
| 20:16.29 | koen | what are valid ibjtypes? |
| 20:16.36 | fng_sma | contact event todo |
| 20:16.48 | fng_sma | but I didn't yet activat event and todo. |
| 20:37.39 | pH5 | what is the magic that multisync0.90 uses to find its plugins? I installed florian's binaries from the GpeSync wiki entry, but although gpe_sync.so shows up in the strace, it's not in the menus. |
| 20:37.49 | koen | ehm |
| 20:37.59 | mallum | Philippe: cool, thanks for testing |
| 20:38.00 | koen | those are the wrong ones |
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| 20:38.13 | koen | pH5: you need gpe/base/gpe-sync |
| 20:38.25 | pH5 | of course. first try always goes wrong. thanks, koen. |
| 20:40.04 | fng_sma | pH5: The configuration is not working with the gui, but it's very easy to configure it with the command line tool. It's just editing an xml file. |
| 20:41.25 | pH5 | fng_sma: I see. checking out gpe-sync... |
| 20:42.04 | koen | I usually create the pair with the gui and configure it with the gpe plugin with msynctool |
| 20:42.33 | fng_sma | For all you need to do: msynctool addgroup gpe-evo |
| 20:43.15 | fng_sma | msynctool addmember gpe-evo gpe-sync |
| 20:43.21 | fng_sma | msynctool addmember gpe-evo evo2-sync |
| 20:43.34 | fng_sma | oh I forgot the -- before add* |
| 20:43.34 | koen | msynctool --configure gpe-evo 1 |
| 20:43.59 | fng_sma | msynctool --configure gpe-evo 2 |
| 20:44.05 | fng_sma | msynctool --sync gpe-evo |
| 20:44.11 | fng_sma | That's all. |
| 20:45.29 | koen | and make backups |
| 20:45.47 | fng_sma | :-) |
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| 20:48.40 | koen | hey molivier |
| 20:53.18 | molivier | koen, hi |
| 20:58.21 | pH5 | koen: what has to be fixed with regards to gpe-pim / libmimedir cvs? calendar, contacts and todo seem to work as before (for now)... |
| 20:58.45 | koen | pH5: gpe-calender -i <file.vcf> |
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| 21:02.38 | koen | pH5: the fiex |
| 21:02.42 | koen | oops |
| 21:02.49 | koen | the fixes are in gpe-cvs |
| 21:02.54 | koen | we just need a new release |
| 21:02.59 | pH5 | nice tool. I didn't even know that it could do this. :) |
| 21:03.49 | pH5 | Now I just wish it would be possible to select multiple hours before pressing the new appointment button. |
| 21:07.43 | mreimer | pH5: yes, that would be nice |
| 21:14.55 | pH5 | good night everyone |
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| 21:17.07 | koen | hey florian |
| 21:17.13 | florian | re |
| 21:17.40 | Philippe | re |
| 21:17.52 | florian | Release time? |
| 21:17.57 | florian | :-) |
| 21:18.17 | koen | only 42 minutes to go |
| 21:18.59 | florian | That's enough :-) |
| 21:19.39 | Philippe | damn, I have to hurry to get gpe-timesheet completely fixed. And we will need mallum's latest fix for matchbox-wm |
| 21:19.41 | JustinP | florian: can you remove that run-calibrate.sh script in xserver-common? |
| 21:20.11 | mreimer | 42 minutes till when? |
| 21:20.47 | koen | the freeze for gpe 2.7 |
| 21:20.50 | florian | JustinP: why? |
| 21:20.51 | mreimer | ah |
| 21:21.19 | florian | koen: all releases are bugfix releases, that doesn't count :-) |
| 21:21.20 | pb_ | ah, there's a freeze? crumbs. |
| 21:21.37 | mreimer | who's holding the timer? |
| 21:21.37 | JustinP | florian: becaise it serves no purpose. All it does it call xtscal and it's simply called by the Xinit calibration script. It makes more sense to just call xtscal from the Xinit script. |
| 21:21.58 | koen | pb_: are the trees still doing their job in the garden? |
| 21:23.12 | pb_ | yes, but inclement weather forced me back into the house. |
| 21:23.25 | pb_ | there seems to be some kind of thunderstorm in progress. |
| 21:23.27 | koen | ah, too bad |
| 21:24.05 | florian | koen, pb_: Most important things are bugfixes and updates - that's okay, but for additional features that freeze is intended. |
| 21:24.52 | koen | florian: the releases are also very nice for fng_sma's SoC |
| 21:25.07 | florian | koen: indeed - that we will do first. |
| 21:25.56 | florian | pb_: gpe-bluetooth is one candidate to support fng_sma's work. |
| 21:26.35 | pb_ | yeah, indeed |
| 21:34.37 | florian | hrm... need a new libmimedir first |
| 21:37.06 | fng_sma | pb_: Could you check my work, since at koens computer it doesn't work, but on mine two it does (at least the contacts). |
| 21:38.36 | pb_ | fng_sma: sure. if you can mail me a short description of how to test it, I will do so tomorrow. |
| 21:38.54 | fng_sma | pb_: There is a small howto in the INSTALL file. |
| 21:39.01 | pb_ | ah, great. |
| 21:39.24 | pb_ | so, I just need to check the code out of cvs and follow the directions in INSTALL? sounds easy enough. |
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| 21:39.59 | fng_sma | Yes it is. Well, make backups, just a personal note. |
| 21:40.10 | pb_ | I think I have to attend some kind of investor meeting first thing in the morning, but I should have some free time after that. |
| 21:40.22 | pb_ | I'll give it a go. |
| 21:40.35 | fng_sma | pb_: when would be that, so that I can help you, should there be any issues? |
| 21:41.04 | pb_ | probably around 1100 my time. |
| 21:41.24 | fng_sma | okay fine, I think that is about 1200 here... Thx. |
| 21:41.46 | pb_ | okay, excellent |
| 21:46.59 | koen | pb_: you might want to set the cvsdate 1 day forwared to het the latest bits |
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| 21:47.27 | pb_ | righto |
| 21:47.39 | florian | gpe-calendar is tough... |
| 21:47.53 | pb_ | florian: heh, in what respect? |
| 21:48.06 | florian | But we have a release of gpe-contacts 0.42. |
| 21:48.16 | pb_ | excellent |
| 21:48.45 | florian | pb_: distcheck fails... with strange reasons. |
| 21:48.51 | pb_ | oh dear |
| 21:50.17 | florian | The source of these problems seems to be that strange POTFILES.in |
| 21:50.48 | pb_ | ah, I hate that. |
| 21:50.53 | pb_ | let me have a go here. |
| 21:50.55 | Philippe | florian, I think you have to do "touch po/Makefile.in: and then make distcheck... |
| 21:51.16 | pb_ | Philippe: ! |
| 21:51.54 | florian | Some instance put in there some useless files... |
| 21:52.01 | pb_ | aha. |
| 21:52.45 | pb_ | sigh, I wish configure would tell me _which_ pkg-config dependencies are missing. |
| 21:54.05 | florian | I remeber it did... if i knew which verion of autotools created that file... |
| 21:54.41 | florian | We have gpe-calendar 0.65 |
| 21:54.58 | pb_ | great |
| 21:55.05 | pb_ | all hail florian! |
| 21:56.44 | florian | gpe-beam 0.2.8... but that's not directly related. |
| 21:57.44 | Philippe | ~hail florian |
| 21:57.46 | ibot | ACTION bows down to florian and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 21:58.38 | florian | But that one should import vcal and vtodo too and use gpe-contacts and gpe-calendar for import instead of the old. command line tools. |
| 21:59.26 | florian | oh and i found another thing to fix: gpe-bootsplash |
| 21:59.49 | koen | iirc there is a patch for that from beewoolie floating on the mailinglist |
| 22:00.05 | florian | argh! |
| 22:00.15 | florian | really? |
| 22:00.23 | koen | to make it work for more framebufferes |
| 22:01.33 | florian | And i guess we need to re-enable it in the images and check if it works with cairo 1.0 |
| 22:02.01 | koen | 0.6 you mean |
| 22:02.15 | koen | PREFERRED_VERSION_cairo ?= "0.5.2" |
| 22:02.42 | pb_ | no, florian is right. it should be made to work with 1.0. |
| 22:03.06 | florian | Then we have open bugfix releases of gpe-today and libgpewidget. |
| 22:04.22 | florian | spung didn't answer my request for a release so far, but i guess its okay if i take care about this. |
| 22:04.43 | pb_ | yeah, please go ahead. |
| 22:04.51 | pb_ | what needs to be done to libgpewidget? |
| 22:05.26 | pb_ | I haven't heard anything from spung for years (literally, I think). |
| 22:05.53 | pb_ | he still seems to hang out on irc sometimes, but I don't think I've ever seen him say anything recently. |
| 22:07.49 | florian | pb_: I fixed a wrong install path of the clock widget pixmaps, we need to make a release in near future to get this fix into Familiar. |
| 22:08.31 | florian | pb_: he helped to identify a problem with gpe-today some months ago.. but not too much apart from this. |
| 22:13.41 | florian | okay, gpe-today 0.09 |
| 22:14.48 | Philippe | damn ctime seems not to work like it should.... |
| 22:15.21 | koen | | calendar.c:10:21: gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory |
| 22:15.21 | koen | | main.c:14:21: gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory |
| 22:16.29 | florian | koen: hmm... |
| 22:16.54 | florian | koen: oh right... use this |
| 22:17.05 | florian | that one is broken |
| 22:17.43 | Philippe | what the ...? |
| 22:18.04 | koen | hngr |
| 22:18.08 | koen | that patch doesn't apply |
| 22:18.33 | Philippe | tstart = 1125526186, tstop = 1125526290 ctime(tstop) = Thu Sep 1 00:11:30 2005, ctime(tstart) = Thu Sep 1 00:11:30 2005 |
| 22:18.52 | Philippe | anybody that can explain that to me? |
| 22:19.02 | florian | koen: imho the only change is the 0.08 to 0.09 |
| 22:19.30 | pb_ | Philippe: you'd have to show us your code. |
| 22:19.47 | pb_ | I suspect you are not heeding the warning in the documentation about ctime() returning a pointer to a static buffer. |
| 22:20.16 | florian | Failed to get panel background |
| 22:20.16 | florian | *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x080af488 *** |
| 22:20.22 | pb_ | oh dear |
| 22:21.07 | pb_ | can you trap that in gdb? |
| 22:22.05 | florian | yep.. let me try. |
| 22:22.15 | florian | that happened after introducing a larger image |
| 22:22.25 | Philippe | http://pastebin.ca/21774 |
| 22:23.15 | koen | florian: most of the new releases are in OE now |
| 22:24.00 | florian | koen: great! |
| 22:25.36 | florian | ah... here it is :-) |
| 22:26.59 | pb_ | Philippe: yah, that's no good |
| 22:28.07 | Philippe | pb_: what is the stupid mistake? |
| 22:28.22 | pb_ | # |
| 22:28.22 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.22 | pb_ | # |
| 22:28.22 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.39 | pb_ | you have two calls to ctime() in there. |
| 22:31.27 | Philippe | I cannot find a mention about the static buffer though. |
| 22:32.15 | pb_ | "The return value points to a statically allocated string, which might be |
| 22:32.15 | pb_ | overwritten by subsequent calls to @code{asctime} or @code{ctime}. |
| 22:32.15 | pb_ | (But no other library function overwrites the contents of this |
| 22:32.15 | pb_ | string.)" |
| 22:32.19 | pb_ | There it is. |
| 22:33.00 | pb_ | Even the manpage says " The four functions asctime(), ctime(), gmtime() and localtime() return |
| 22:33.00 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:33.00 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:33.00 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:33.38 | Philippe | pb_, oh yes now I see |
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| 22:42.15 | florian | pb_: That mb_pixbuf_img_free() in gpe-what.c, line 288 is the cause... |
| 22:43.03 | pb_ | florian: how odd |
| 22:43.26 | pb_ | img_backing was allocated in that same function, just a few lines earlier. |
| 22:45.28 | florian | right... i wonder what is going on there. |
| 22:46.07 | pb_ | I wouldn't be surprised if libmatchbox inspects argv[0 |
| 22:46.17 | pb_ | ] and scribbles over memory in some random way if it finds "gpe" there. |
| 22:46.41 | florian | hehe |
| 22:47.07 | florian | for some reason mallum diesn't seem to like us anymore :-( |
| 22:48.09 | pb_ | I'll have a play with gpe-what in the morning and see if I can track down that problem. Maybe it will show up more clearly under Electric Fence or valgrind or something. |
| 22:49.00 | Philippe | yippee, time is good now. Now get the duration cleaned up. |
| 22:49.13 | florian | Philippe: cool |
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| 22:51.33 | mreimer | What's a good reason for bumping a verion number? Is support for a new platform enough reason? |
| 22:51.46 | mreimer | I'm thinking of blueprobe in particular, that now has h2200 support. |
| 22:52.14 | pb_ | yeah, go ahead and increment the version number on that. |
| 22:52.26 | mreimer | ok |
| 22:52.50 | pb_ | feel free to release the new version too, if you want. |
| 22:52.59 | pb_ | "make source" should do the trick/ |
| 22:53.05 | pb_ | s:/:.: |
| 22:53.13 | mreimer | whoa, magic |
| 22:53.20 | mreimer | nice :-) |
| 22:53.32 | florian | wow... i accidentally started openoffice on my matchbox-nest. it scales down properly to 240x320! |
| 22:53.40 | pb_ | heh, that's cute |
| 22:53.42 | mreimer | what about the bb? |
| 22:54.07 | mreimer | I don't suppose it created a new one for me |
| 22:54.46 | florian | that's the only thing missing in that magic :-) |
| 22:54.59 | koen | http://monotone.vanille.de/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=71288bf25a48eddab243037968244e753f6ff81e |
| 22:55.22 | mreimer | *that's* magic :-) |
| 22:57.50 | pb_ | heh |
| 22:57.56 | pb_ | night night |
| 22:58.05 | mreimer | g'night pb |
| 23:04.29 | mreimer | how do I get gpe-mixer to go away? |
| 23:05.00 | koen | use one of the ugly themes or kill it |
| 23:05.06 | florian | mreimer: use the task manager... |
| 23:05.18 | mreimer | ah, it's a theme problem. ok |
| 23:05.34 | florian | anothere thing to fix |
| 23:06.01 | koen | florian: mallum hinted at not supporting input windows in future mb versions |
| 23:08.46 | florian | koen: that will be the day we fork matchbox... i really like mallum and the stuff he does, but his way to remove or to drop support fore useful features drives me crazy. |
| 23:10.01 | koen | decorated input wins that is |
| 23:15.00 | Philippe | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.22361.png results of a timetracker run |
| 23:15.53 | florian | ah cool |
| 23:16.44 | Philippe | I just removed the (min) for the duration |
| 23:17.11 | Philippe | at least it is use-able again |
| 23:18.18 | mreimer | hmm, the Look and Feel configurator seems to hang when I select a theme |
| 23:18.19 | koen | LOL: http://webwynk.net/jrb/#1125536678 |
| 23:18.51 | koen | hang or being really slow? |
| 23:20.32 | mreimer | well, it's been about five minutes now |
| 23:20.47 | koen | ok |
| 23:20.53 | koen | that classifies as a hang |
| 23:20.55 | mreimer | the area under the theme popup hasn't redrawn yet |
| 23:21.03 | florian | that's too long |
| 23:21.03 | mreimer | I can kill it from the shell |
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| 23:35.05 | Philippe | koen, it is there now. |
| 23:35.16 | Philippe | I first had to test if it was complete and building |
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| 23:37.51 | koen | it's in OE now |
| 23:38.28 | Philippe | great :-) |
| 23:40.12 | florian | uh... who did this gpe-today_makefiles.patch?! |
| 23:44.21 | koen | from the bk history it look slike cwiiis |
| 23:45.02 | florian | :-) |
| 23:46.42 | florian | koen: if you didn't make to add it to oe try http://handhelds.org:8080/gpe/filediff?f=gpe/base/gpe-today/Makefile&v1=1.46&v2=1.47 |
| 23:49.43 | koen | even more patches... |
| 23:49.52 | florian | oops... this one accidentally changes the version number. |
| 23:50.37 | fng_sma | I found the problem!!! YEHAAA! |
| 23:50.42 | koen | yay! |
| 23:50.43 | fng_sma | (but no solution...) |
| 23:50.49 | koen | D'oh! |
| 23:50.56 | koen | what's the problem? |
| 23:51.17 | fng_sma | Okay at the current version it's not working, when a database has no entries... |
| 23:52.02 | florian | JustinP: sorry.... i forgot to answer: The idea is to extend this script if fome device needs a different way to calibrate the screen. |
| 23:52.25 | fng_sma | if there is at least one, everything is fine... |
| 23:52.45 | fng_sma | ... but WHY?? |
| 23:52.59 | Philippe | koen : for you http://handhelds.org/scap/port.24238.png |
| 23:54.02 | florian | *g* |
| 23:54.09 | koen | Duvel! |
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| 23:55.40 | JustinP | florian: I still don't understand. Why would you need another script for this? Why not put it directly in the xinit script? |
| 23:57.58 | florian | JustinP: because othere tools call this too... and its everything but good to call a script in /etc/X11/Xinit.d from other applications. |
| 23:59.17 | Philippe | last test before going to sleep : http://handhelds.org/scap/port.24536.png |
| 23:59.30 | koen | fng_sma: an empty db shouldn't happen if we adapt the macosx way |
| 23:59.36 | koen | put the user info in the db |
| 23:59.47 | Philippe | goodnight all |
| 23:59.55 | florian | Philippe: good night |
