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| 00:05.33 | florian | good night |
| 00:09.43 | fng_sma | okay, time's up! Sleep well! |
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| 07:48.42 | XorA | morning |
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| 08:48.10 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 08:52.13 | XorA | hey florian_kc |
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| 09:07.49 | Philippe_work | morning all |
| 09:10.49 | XorA | hey Philippe_work ibot |
| 09:12.26 | Philippe_work | hey XorA |
| 09:15.23 | koen|slug | good morning all |
| 09:17.06 | florian_kc | hi Philippe_work, hi koen|slug |
| 09:17.56 | XorA | hey koen|slug |
| 09:18.03 | XorA | what package provides xsettings-client |
| 09:18.30 | florian_kc | XorA: libxsettings-client |
| 09:19.19 | XorA | florian_kc: cheers was confusing it with xset |
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| 09:21.34 | florian_kc | pb_: good morning |
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| 09:23.03 | pb_ | florian_kc: good morning! |
| 09:23.06 | pb_ | yeah, good idea |
| 09:24.01 | shiyee | good morning all |
| 09:24.02 | florian_kc | Philippe_work: btw... i checked in the updates to gpe-calendar |
| 09:24.06 | florian_kc | hi shiyee |
| 09:25.12 | Philippe_work | florian_kc, ok. I'll finish the aborted release from yesterday then. |
| 09:27.02 | XorA | hmm, for some reason libxsettings-client on my machine is not staging its .pc file even though it inherits pkgconfig |
| 09:27.38 | florian_kc | Philippe_work: I you have some minutes for a basic test it would be good... it was late last night. |
| 09:27.54 | florian_kc | and "make distcheck" |
| 09:28.35 | florian_kc | XorA: right... i just ran into the same issue... |
| 09:29.35 | Philippe_work | florian_kc, I will test it on target too. |
| 09:30.00 | florian_kc | Philippe_work: oh great! |
| 09:31.21 | Philippe_work | But it will be for tonight... don't have my stuff at work |
| 09:36.38 | florian_kc | no need to hurry... maybe i manage to run a test myself too. |
| 09:36.58 | XorA | florian_kc: something seems to do grep -t which my grep doesnt support |
| 09:38.37 | florian_kc | XorA: That looks like someone broke pkgconfig.bbclass then :-/ |
| 09:38.46 | XorA | florian_kc: found it, the change that was made recently for uninstalled.pc is bad, it seems to pass -uninstalled.pc to grep |
| 09:39.16 | XorA | for pc in `find ${S} -name '*.pc' | grep -v '-uninstalled.pc$'`; do in last few lines of pkgconfig.class |
| 09:40.18 | florian_kc | heh... that would be a reason |
| 09:40.41 | koen|slug | another reason for having staging under package management |
| 09:41.45 | florian_kc | XorA: Are you going to fix this? |
| 09:41.58 | XorA | florian_kc: I dont have a clue what that line is supposed to do :-( |
| 09:42.09 | florian_kc | XorA: okay... let me try |
| 09:42.23 | XorA | pkgconfig is not my thing |
| 09:42.41 | koen|slug | it installs everything except foo-uninstalled.pc |
| 09:43.09 | florian_kc | XorA: okay, i have a valid fix... testing now |
| 09:44.12 | florian_kc | XorA: Who made this change? |
| 09:44.23 | koen|slug | ph5 |
| 09:44.35 | florian_kc | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:45.07 | florian_kc | ~fishslap ph5 for breaking pkgconfig.bbclass |
| 09:45.11 | ibot | ACTION slaps ph5 up side the head with a wet fish for breaking pkgconfig.bbclass |
| 09:45.41 | florian_kc | here we go... i'll check it in now... maybe we have it in oe in eh.. 10 minutes or so |
| 09:46.13 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 09:46.19 | XorA | florian_kc: cheers |
| 10:05.02 | pb_ | florian_kc: very good |
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| 10:11.36 | bazik | good morning |
| 10:15.01 | koen|slug | chown $USER /sys/class/backlight/*/* ; chmod u+rw /sys/class/backlight/*/* |
| 10:17.06 | florian_kc | hello bazik |
| 10:17.11 | florian_kc | koen|slug: one minute... |
| 10:20.29 | florian_kc | koen|slug: isn't /sys/class/backlight/* sufficient? |
| 10:20.45 | florian_kc | koen|slug: with "-R" |
| 10:21.00 | koen|slug | probably |
| 10:21.04 | koen|slug | root@c7x0:~# ls /sys/class/backlight/ |
| 10:21.04 | koen|slug | corgi-bl |
| 10:21.13 | koen|slug | root@c7x0:~# ls /sys/class/backlight/corgi-bl/ |
| 10:21.13 | koen|slug | brightness max_brightness power |
| 10:22.15 | florian_kc | koen|slug: we have this in there... |
| 10:23.14 | koen|slug | Version: 0.63-r14 |
| 10:23.23 | koen|slug | D'oh |
| 10:29.23 | florian_kc | koen|slug: http://handhelds.org:8080/gpe/chngview?cn=480 |
| 10:29.41 | koen|slug | cool |
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| 10:46.48 | florian_kc | pb_: Is there a particular reason why that matchbox session script is not in gpe-session-scripts cvs but in the oe tree? |
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| 10:52.14 | Philippe_work | florian_kc, what will be the effect of me editing the GpeDevelopment Manual as anonymous? |
| 10:53.22 | florian_kc | Philippe_work: That would be possible, but i could create you an account easily |
| 10:54.57 | JiniDog | hmm, I think in glibc/uclibc are far more libary-functions than they are described in the standard-C-libary |
| 10:55.09 | JiniDog | where can I find a complete reference? |
| 10:55.55 | Philippe_work | JiniDog, I would ask that on their respective mailing lists... |
| 10:56.11 | Philippe_work | florian_kc, but th changes would be kept? |
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| 10:56.34 | Philippe_work | So I'll do some editing now and when you get some time you create that account for me. |
| 10:58.28 | florian_kc | Philippe_work: yes... they would be kept. maybe add yourself to the authors section as well, i'll move this to the docbook files then. |
| 10:59.02 | florian_kc | Philippe_work: btw... editing the docbook files in cvs would be okay too. |
| 10:59.37 | Philippe_work | florian_kc, |
| 10:59.57 | Philippe_work | I'll first do it on the wiki until the text is good enough to be put in the docbook |
| 11:00.06 | florian_kc | okay |
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| 11:08.48 | jsmanrique | hi |
| 11:09.41 | florian_kc | hi jsmanrique |
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| 11:14.45 | florian_kc | :-) |
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| 11:39.07 | *** topic/#gpe is The GPE Palmtop Environment - http://gpe.handhelds.org/ | GPE Wiki: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GPEProject |familiar snapshots: http://familiar.handhelds.org/snapshots/ | Development Manual (in progress): http://www.kernelconcepts.de/~fuchs/gpe/doc/devmanual/ |
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| 11:45.43 | minimec | hi. I installed gpe 2.6 on my ipaq 3870. First impression: I love it. I made an ipkg update / upgrade. I have some bugs in some pim apps. For example: If I note an appointment in clendar, the summery app won't start. I decided to try the unstable branch. What do I have to change in the ipkg.con file to get the unstable sources? |
| 11:47.03 | koen|slug | either add handhelds.org/feeds/unstable or http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/feed/ via the feed manager |
| 11:47.06 | florian_kc | minimec: hi, imho koen or koen|slug has some unstable feed, but i can check if that bug is fixed. |
| 11:47.11 | koen|slug | the latter is the newest |
| 11:49.27 | florian_kc | We should poke luis to fix it, iirc there is an open bug about that issue. |
| 11:49.46 | minimec | florian_kc: would be nice, if you checked that. By the way I realized, that minimo doesn't have any scrollbars at all. Seems to be a bug to. :-) Tied dillo, but I don't like the resolution (to big) :-) |
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| 11:50.04 | koen|slug | florian_kc: iirc it errors out if you have no TODO's |
| 11:50.18 | koen|slug | minimec: try gpe-mini-browser |
| 11:50.36 | minimec | koen|slug: I will try that |
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| 11:59.44 | koen|slug | florian_kc: I have a present for you: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/xmodmap/ |
| 12:00.03 | koen|slug | florian_kc: those are the rotation keymaps from familiar 0.7.2 |
| 12:01.34 | florian_kc | koen|slug: oh, that's good - iirc the tools still make use of it as soon as they appear. |
| 12:01.40 | koen|slug | yes |
| 12:01.48 | koen|slug | xrandr-panelapp.sh use them |
| 12:01.53 | koen|slug | uses* |
| 12:01.57 | florian_kc | same for gpe-conf |
| 12:02.22 | florian_kc | koen: i'll add them to xserver-common 1.1 :-) |
| 12:02.39 | koen|slug | :) |
| 12:02.51 | florian_kc | or i'm evil and.... |
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| 12:03.14 | koen|slug | iirc reenoo had a bug open for the modmaps |
| 12:05.53 | koen|slug | xrandr -o left |
| 12:05.53 | koen|slug | xmodmap /etc/X11/xmodmap-right |
| 12:06.02 | koen|slug | spot the error ;) |
| 12:06.13 | koen|slug | (xrandr-panelapp.sh) |
| 12:06.21 | florian_kc | oops |
| 12:06.43 | florian_kc | koen|slug: maybe check if the bug is in the xmodmap file or the script |
| 12:08.12 | koen|slug | florian_kc: If I rotate my c700 the keys are 'inverted' in portrait |
| 12:08.15 | koen|slug | landscape is ok |
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| 12:11.31 | koen|slug | florian_kc: it fails on my ipaq too |
| 12:13.37 | koen|slug | florian_kc: changing the script fixes it |
| 12:14.21 | florian_kc | koen|slug: okay... which one? |
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| 12:14.40 | koen|slug | xrandr-panelapp.sh |
| 12:14.45 | florian_kc | DrPepper: hi |
| 12:14.51 | florian_kc | koen|slug: very good |
| 12:15.23 | koen|slug | the file is in packages/matchbox-panel-hacks/matchbox-panel-hacks-0.3-1/ |
| 12:17.33 | Philippe_work | re |
| 12:18.52 | koen|slug | http://monotone.vanille.de/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=0364f56dac3cfee982a1fed82f2f51d356bbff7c |
| 12:22.17 | florian_kc | koen|slug: great... i just released xserver-common 1.1 :-) |
| 12:22.39 | florian_kc | koen|slug: I'll try to build a new gpe-image with all the broken out stuff now. |
| 12:29.39 | florian_kc | mickeyl: good morning |
| 12:29.45 | koen|slug | good morning mickeyl |
| 12:32.41 | mickeyl | hi florian, koen |
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| 12:41.29 | mimecar | hi |
| 12:42.19 | pb_ | florian_kc: I don't think there is any particular reason for that. |
| 12:42.27 | pb_ | mickeyl: good morning |
| 12:43.15 | mimecar | hi pb_ |
| 12:47.01 | pb_ | hi mimecar |
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| 13:03.07 | koen|slug | florian_kc: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=203 |
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| 13:45.18 | florian_kc | pb_: ok |
| 13:45.39 | florian_kc | koen: i'm working on this :-) |
| 13:49.28 | florian_kc | koen: i just want to make sure it works properly... this change affects all images. |
| 13:49.44 | florian_kc | pb_: Did you get my message about gpe-butonbox yesterday? |
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| 13:53.23 | florian_kc | hi pigeon |
| 13:53.38 | pigeon | hey florian_kc |
| 13:54.44 | koen|slug | florian_kc: about making the buttons smaller? |
| 13:55.12 | koen|slug | smaller buttons: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.21367.png |
| 14:00.32 | florian_kc | koen|slug: yep... that looks pretty good. its time for a new release :-) |
| 14:12.41 | koen|slug | Philippe_work: does minibrowser support 'gpe-mini-browser http://foo' on the command line? |
| 14:14.30 | koen|slug | ah it does |
| 14:14.44 | Philippe_work | ok. Answered by yourself :-) |
| 14:15.06 | Philippe_work | you have to use file:///kkldskl though... (me needs to fix that) |
| 14:15.33 | Philippe_work | koen, it even understands gpe-mini-browser www.google.com |
| 14:17.43 | XorA | Philippe_work: fix it? |
| 14:18.27 | koen|slug | the tripple slash is intended |
| 14:18.35 | pb_ | florian_kc: I don't think so. Would you mind repeating it? |
| 14:18.43 | koen|slug | file://c:\dos\foo |
| 14:19.27 | Philippe_work | XorA, Well it is not working if you don't give the full path (I believe) |
| 14:19.44 | XorA | Philippe_work: ah, thought you were complaining about url formation :-) |
| 14:19.52 | florian_kc | pb_: let me try.... |
| 14:20.37 | florian_kc | pb_: "What do you think of: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.21367.png ? Looks like it is time for a new release." |
| 14:20.45 | florian_kc | ...or something like that :-) |
| 14:21.05 | pb_ | heh |
| 14:21.18 | pb_ | looks cute. yes, I agree it is time for a new release |
| 14:23.35 | florian_kc | :-) |
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| 14:52.54 | koen|slug | robtaylor: how's farsight coming along? |
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| 14:59.25 | florian_kc | pb_: I suppose you want me to do this :-) |
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| 15:02.49 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 15:02.59 | koen|slug | hey CoreDump|home |
| 15:03.01 | koen|slug | hey tigrux |
| 15:03.17 | tigrux | Hello koen|slug |
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| 15:09.47 | krokas_ | hello. In bb i use as a source a cvs(in SRC_URI) How can i add a parameter to download with -z4 flag? |
| 15:10.01 | pb_ | florian_kc: heh. if you wouldn't mind... :-) |
| 15:10.28 | Philippe_work | krokas_, I would ask that in #oe (seems to be very specific) |
| 15:10.53 | krokas_ | Philippe_work: hi, thanks, i will look :) |
| 15:11.12 | mickeyl | krokas_: -z4 sounds like a global setting, you wouldn't add that in a SRC_URI |
| 15:11.26 | mickeyl | you would rather inspect bitbake.conf for FETCHCOMMAND_cvs |
| 15:11.34 | mickeyl | and override that in your local.conf |
| 15:12.20 | koen|slug | ~/.cvsrc |
| 15:12.40 | koen|slug | according to the cvs docs anything over z3 is a waste of CPU |
| 15:20.30 | krokas_ | thaks all, i understood it is the FETCHCOMMAND_cvs, i will use -z3 |
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| 16:03.16 | koen|slug | hey mreimer |
| 16:03.21 | mreimer | hey koen |
| 16:04.08 | mreimer | Is familiar 0.8.3 going to have kernel 2.6.13? |
| 16:04.51 | koen|slug | if that's the one in cvs *and* h2200/hx4700 are user ready, yes |
| 16:05.12 | mreimer | koen|slug: 2.6.12 is what's in CVS; 2.6.13 just was released yesterday, I think |
| 16:05.26 | mreimer | I'm trying to get h2200 user ready |
| 16:05.46 | mreimer | 2.6.13 should allow booting from CF |
| 16:07.31 | koen|slug | mreimer: could you look into assembling an install howto for the 2210? |
| 16:08.57 | mreimer | koen|slug: yes, I hope to do that soon. I'd really like h2200 to be in the next familiar. I think all I need to do is get handhelds-pxa-2.6 building h2200 support, and get a couple of bluetooth patches into gpe, and then I think we should be able to use gpe-image. |
| 16:09.19 | koen|slug | cool |
| 16:09.36 | mreimer | is there a familiar 0.8.3 deadline? |
| 16:09.54 | koen|slug | not really |
| 16:10.20 | koen|slug | we have some blocking issues |
| 16:10.40 | mreimer | is there a bug tracker in bugzilla for 0.8.3? |
| 16:10.48 | koen|slug | I want to branch of to org.openembedded.familiar.083 next month |
| 16:10.57 | koen|slug | mreimer: handhelds.org/~bugzilla |
| 16:11.09 | koen|slug | then click the 'familiar 0.8.3' link :) |
| 16:11.21 | mreimer | nice |
| 16:14.21 | koen|slug | from the Summer of Code project: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.27518.png http://handhelds.org/scap/port.27607.png |
| 16:14.37 | koen|slug | and http://www.elsewhere.be/summerofcode/vrac/demo.png |
| 16:14.56 | mreimer | what is it? |
| 16:15.10 | mreimer | handwriting recognition? |
| 16:15.13 | koen|slug | yes |
| 16:15.38 | mreimer | nice! yes please :-) |
| 16:16.46 | florian_kc | koen|slug: oh! interesting!! |
| 16:16.57 | rob_w | koen|slug, looks good |
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| 16:17.34 | mreimer | this will be really nice if he makes it work like xstroke, writing over the whole screen |
| 16:18.03 | koen|slug | 4 days left :) |
| 16:18.12 | mreimer | he's doing the hardest part |
| 16:18.23 | koen|slug | yeah |
| 16:18.30 | koen|slug | tweaking the UI shouldn't be too hard |
| 16:20.03 | mreimer | "I have begin to read xstroke code, seems really interessant" |
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| 16:21.40 | koen|slug | hey france_ |
| 16:21.49 | mreimer | je pense il est francais |
| 16:22.17 | france_ | koen: hi |
| 16:22.50 | koen|slug | mreimer: I suspect he's from northern belgium |
| 16:23.01 | mreimer | .be, yes |
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| 16:23.38 | koen|slug | 'schoonbroodt' sounds dutch to me |
| 16:23.43 | mreimer | heh |
| 16:23.43 | koen|slug | ('nice bread') |
| 16:23.53 | florian_kc | hi pH5 |
| 16:23.55 | koen|slug | hey pH5 |
| 16:24.34 | pH5 | hi everybody |
| 16:24.37 | koen|slug | mreimer: did you try aquadran's tip about setting module_raw for h2200_linear? |
| 16:25.08 | mreimer | koen: yes, it helps me get to the bottom of the screen a little better, but the bottom 10% or so is still quite curved :-( |
| 16:25.20 | mreimer | that's the main thing inhibiting usability |
| 16:25.33 | mreimer | and we need a better dejittering |
| 16:25.47 | mreimer | I need to tinker with the dejittering jamey described |
| 16:26.21 | koen|slug | did todd implement that for hx4700 already? |
| 16:26.46 | mreimer | yes, I took that and made a tslib module out of it, but it needs a bit of work still |
| 16:28.25 | koen|slug | doesn't tslib have a dejitter module already? |
| 16:28.30 | mreimer | yes |
| 16:28.56 | mreimer | I haven't found it to be very helpful on h2200, so I wanted to experiment with what jamey described from the h2200 bsp |
| 16:30.25 | koen|z | did kergoth make a release of tslib already? |
| 16:30.43 | mreimer | I don't know |
| 16:30.56 | mreimer | do you mean with this new dejitter module? |
| 16:31.41 | koen|z | no, I was hoping you could sneak in your new one |
| 16:32.07 | mreimer | I'll see if I can tidy it up. I don't know if I'll have time to get it fully working. |
| 16:34.09 | florian_kc | koen|z: We have gpe-buttonbox 0.5. |
| 16:34.43 | jd86 | I don't know if this is the correct channel to ask , but i'll ask. With gpe, how do i set the package manager to install to a certian -dest ? |
| 16:35.23 | koen|z | florian_kc: feel free to add a .bb ;) |
| 16:35.30 | florian_kc | jd86: you mean the gui frontend? |
| 16:35.43 | jd86 | florian_kc: yes |
| 16:36.16 | jd86 | and, should icons of newly installed programs automatically show up (or does gpe have to be restarted?) |
| 16:36.38 | florian_kc | jd86: it doesn't support this so far, but it would be easy to do. it might be a good idea to file a bug about an enhancement for this. |
| 16:37.04 | florian_kc | jd86: they show up automatically... matchbox-desktop handles this well. |
| 16:37.47 | jd86 | florian_kc: hrm, it didn't show up.. maybe log out and in? (i installed gxine) |
| 16:38.22 | florian_kc | jd86: hmm... strange, that sounds like a bug. |
| 16:38.58 | koen|z | it does need a ipkglink mount |
| 16:39.09 | mreimer | florian_kc: would you mind committing the trivial patches in hho bugs 1391 and 1392? mbcontrol -> matchbox-remote |
| 16:39.59 | jd86 | ah here it is |
| 16:40.59 | jd86 | wow waiting this long for it to open might give me a heart attack |
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| 16:41.20 | jd86 | oh, maybe it locked up |
| 16:41.31 | florian_kc | heh |
| 16:41.38 | koen|z | xine needs a bucketload of memory |
| 16:41.53 | jd86 | well whats a good music player, thats all that someone suggested to me |
| 16:42.00 | jd86 | well for movies, but i'm more concerned with music atm |
| 16:46.13 | koen|z | florian_kc: was the ogg enhanced nmf released? |
| 16:46.53 | florian_kc | koen|z: yes... some tests would be necessary of course... |
| 16:49.31 | koen|z | is it in oe? |
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| 18:03.07 | fng_sma | helo |
| 18:03.21 | pH5 | hi fng_sma |
| 18:04.00 | koen|slug | hey fng_sma |
| 18:09.46 | fng_sma | pb_: ping? |
| 18:10.03 | pb_ | fng_sma: hello |
| 18:10.54 | fng_sma | pb_: so, I made my gpesyncd, I can add/remove/modify stuff. The client needs some functions to make it easier but it works (most of the time). |
| 18:12.04 | fng_sma | pb_: but I have a problem: When the client crashes, the gpesyncd will keep on running and uses about 100% cpu usage. :-( |
| 18:12.56 | pb_ | fng_sma: that sounds like gpesyncd is not noticing end-of-file on its input. |
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| 18:15.37 | fng_sma | pb_: another thing: Where did you get that printf.c from, that you are using in libnsqlc? |
| 18:16.20 | pb_ | I suspect from sqlite. |
| 18:16.47 | jg | pb_: so what's the state of synchronization these days, anyway? I've not been paying attention... |
| 18:17.18 | fng_sma | jg: I'm about working 10 hours a day on it :-) |
| 18:17.57 | jg | fng_sma: that tells me you are working on it, and it doesn't work yet.... Is that the conclusion I should reach? |
| 18:18.11 | fng_sma | jg: It should be finished on wednesday, I hope tomorrow you should be able to test it. |
| 18:18.22 | jg | ah, so. Interesting.... |
| 18:18.41 | jg | pb_: what's the state of teleport? What can I demo with, do you think? |
| 18:20.59 | jg | fng_sma: typical reason for run away server process is not arranging for a signal to kill your process or incorrect handling of errors in a select loop. |
| 18:23.38 | fng_sma | jg: I just found the bug! thanks. |
| 18:28.45 | mreimer | pb_: if you approve, would you commit the patch in http://www.handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1390 ? |
| 18:30.22 | fng_sma | I need to go offline... See you later. |
| 18:32.39 | koen|slug | jg: teleport is patched into gtk in recent images (familiar 0.8.2 iirc) and is working with mixed results |
| 18:35.46 | mreimer | pb_: I emailed you the other day about patching /etc/bluetooth/hciattach, but now I think it may not be strictly necessary, since once the tty gets echo turned off (by /etc/init.d/blueprobe with my bug 1390 patch), nothing should be turning it back on again. So if you agree, ignore that request to patch /etc/bluetooth/hciattach. The benefit is that then we won't be opening/closing the tty (thus powering on/off the bt chip) twice in succession. |
| 18:41.43 | koen|z | how welll does it handle suspend? |
| 18:43.00 | mreimer | koen|z: depends on what you were doing with bt before suspending. I don't currently hold or park, just power the chip down. |
| 18:47.17 | koen|z | I see |
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| 19:03.10 | pH5 | there are slightly different obexclient-dbus.c files in both gpe-beam and gpe-bluetooth. code duplication gone wild? |
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| 19:05.38 | koen|slug | florian: wb |
| 19:06.13 | koen|slug | pb_: a while ago you patched something to show names in the bt pin requester instead of the mac address, did that get propagated to gpe-bt too? |
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| 19:06.37 | koen|slug | where 'something' might be bluez-pin |
| 19:08.16 | pb_ | I'm not sure. I suspect that the propagation may have been disrupted by gpe-bluetooth's autotoolizing. |
| 19:10.08 | koen|slug | flypiper: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.6083.png |
| 19:10.10 | koen|slug | ehm |
| 19:10.11 | koen|slug | florian: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.6083.png |
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| 19:18.51 | mimecar | hi |
| 19:39.46 | shiyee | koen|slug: i can see youre using Gaim... any feedback? |
| 19:44.27 | koen|slug | I'm using the regular gaim |
| 19:45.09 | shiyee | ahh okay |
| 19:45.10 | pH5 | shiyee: feedback: with your version, the tray icon is small. |
| 19:46.23 | shiyee | pH5: added to my TODO :-) |
| 19:47.08 | koen|slug | pH5: didn't you make a screenie showing it only filled half of the screen? |
| 19:47.35 | shiyee | hmm... that would be a bug... |
| 19:47.44 | pH5 | yes. shiyee was here, then. |
| 19:47.58 | shiyee | which dialog? |
| 19:48.29 | pH5 | i'll have to look... |
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| 19:50.29 | pH5 | shiyee: it's the add/modify account window. |
| 19:51.06 | shiyee | pH5: akay, thanks :-) |
| 19:55.10 | florian | re |
| 19:55.51 | florian | koen|slug: how does it sound? :-) |
| 19:56.10 | koen|slug | like crap |
| 19:56.15 | koen|slug | it swaps over sd |
| 19:56.29 | koen|slug | gpe really doesn't like 32mb ram on vga |
| 19:56.36 | florian | koen|slug: :-( |
| 19:56.45 | florian | we need to fix this... |
| 19:58.37 | pH5 | florian: there is a bug in the gpe-mininet makefile |
| 19:59.02 | pH5 | florian: http://pastebin.com/349421 |
| 19:59.05 | florian | koen|slug: Can you identify what is taking up the major share of memory? |
| 19:59.18 | florian | pH5: oh dear... let me see |
| 19:59.28 | pH5 | florian: GTKCFLAGS is overwritten in build/Makefile.ipkg_something |
| 20:00.56 | florian | pH5: i see... yes, that's bad. i need some minutes to fix this |
| 20:00.57 | koen|slug | florian: what's the best way to do that? |
| 20:01.07 | koen|slug | top isn't reliable |
| 20:01.15 | florian | _after_ painting the wood for my new desk! |
| 20:01.34 | koen|slug | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.34 | koen|slug | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.34 | koen|slug | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.34 | koen|slug | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.35 | koen|slug | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.51 | koen|slug | I think it picks up X sharedmem too |
| 20:02.22 | florian | koen|slug: Xrestop is useful for checking which app uses X resources, but that's a deatil. |
| 20:03.06 | bazik | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:03.07 | bazik | nooooo |
| 20:03.24 | bazik | i should really find some time to move / to my 1GB sd-card :) |
| 20:03.26 | florian | koen|slug: I fear the best way is to use LTT or something like this and to watch proc frequently. |
| 20:04.31 | florian | koen|slug: I can try to do a complete profile with a tool we use at kc, but i need some time for this. |
| 20:08.15 | florian | koen|slug: What you can do to create a simple memory profile id to scan /proc/<pid>/statm, but i don't know if there is a tool to do this. |
| 20:09.45 | Philippe | re |
| 20:09.58 | florian | Philippe: wb |
| 20:22.40 | pH5 | pb_: gpe-what uses pangoxft directly, but gtk+ 2.8 doesn't depend on pangoxft. is http://pastebin.com/349455 an acceptable short-term fix? |
| 20:23.44 | pH5 | koen|slug: I just finished a bitbake meta-gpe build with gtk+ 2.8 and dbus 0.34 :D |
| 20:23.52 | koen|slug | cool |
| 20:24.19 | pH5 | i'll install it and hope it doesn't segfault all over the place. |
| 20:28.10 | pb_ | pH5: yeah, looks ok to me |
| 20:31.53 | koen|slug | pH5: gtk+ 2.8.3 is in OE now |
| 20:32.31 | pH5 | koen|slug: here we go again :) |
| 20:34.06 | koen|slug | :) |
| 20:43.54 | koen|slug | pH5: does it segfault? |
| 20:44.13 | mreimer | does gtk+ 2.8 use cairo for rendering? if so, does it feel slower than previous versions? |
| 20:45.47 | pH5 | koen|slug: still installing... |
| 20:45.54 | koen|slug | mreimer: yes, and not really |
| 20:46.05 | mreimer | good |
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| 20:46.56 | koen|slug | The industrial theme feels equally fast with both versions |
| 20:47.02 | mreimer | great |
| 20:47.15 | mreimer | does it look any different? |
| 20:48.00 | koen|slug | afaik gpe doesn't use the telltale test (color selector) |
| 20:48.08 | koen|slug | and with 100+ DPI screens... |
| 20:48.18 | koen|slug | 200+ DPI on clamshells and hx4700 |
| 20:48.27 | mreimer | that's what I want :-) |
| 20:49.02 | JiniDog | perhaps somebody here knows how to solve the following problem |
| 20:49.07 | JiniDog | I get this (beep-media-player:2310): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported |
| 20:49.22 | koen|slug | ipkg install gdk-pixbuf-loader-xpm |
| 20:49.24 | JiniDog | when I start beep-media-player and the beep-window is garbeled |
| 20:49.57 | JiniDog | I have a gentoo, but it's still a hint I can follow :) |
| 20:50.17 | JiniDog | but gpe runs partially on it |
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| 20:52.50 | florian | re |
| 20:52.57 | koen|slug | hey florian |
| 20:52.59 | florian | pH5: sounds good :-) |
| 20:53.12 | florian | NOTE: package gpe-image-1.0: completed |
| 20:53.19 | florian | sounds good too :-) |
| 20:54.01 | Philippe | florian, make distcheck fails for gpe-calendar. It is complaining about having no rule to make the Changelog |
| 20:54.24 | Philippe | And I have no clue why... http://pastebin.com/349492 |
| 20:57.27 | florian | Philippe: We don't ship a po/ChangeLog this ultra-stupid Makefile.in.in created by intltool insists on. You need to remove all traces of "ChangeLog" from that file. |
| 20:58.39 | Philippe | florian, ok. I'll try. |
| 21:03.52 | JiniDog | I have the problem, that my system does not support loading gdk-libaries |
| 21:03.52 | JiniDog | root@poodle:/# gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders |
| 21:03.53 | JiniDog | # GdkPixbuf Image Loader Modules file |
| 21:03.53 | JiniDog | # Automatically generated file, do not edit |
| 21:03.53 | JiniDog | # Created by gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders from gtk+-2.6.7 |
| 21:03.53 | JiniDog | # |
| 21:03.55 | JiniDog | # dynamic loading of modules not supported |
| 21:04.09 | JiniDog | Has anyone an idea why that might be? |
| 21:04.28 | koen|slug | wrong configure flags for gtk? |
| 21:04.49 | pH5 | koen|slug: uh-oh, gpe-login segfaults. |
| 21:05.02 | koen|slug | JiniDog: or the plugins are in the wrong location |
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| 21:06.58 | pH5 | and now, to debug this, i copied the unstripped version from the build dir - which of course doesn't crash... gnn |
| 21:08.50 | pH5 | ouch. forgot -force-reinstall. is it ok that programs compiled against gtk 2.6 crash when run with gtk 2.8? |
| 21:09.04 | koen|slug | they shouldn't |
| 21:09.19 | koen|slug | 2.8 is supposed to be ABI and API compatible |
| 21:09.39 | koen|slug | fwiw, gtk 2.8.0 doesn't crash stuff on my ipaq |
| 21:09.55 | koen|slug | and I only installed gtk 2.8 |
| 21:10.02 | koen|slug | without rebuilding the other stuff |
| 21:11.14 | JiniDog | hmm, I am completly missing any libpixbufloader* |
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| 21:11.25 | fng_sma | hello again! |
| 21:11.32 | koen|slug | hey fng_sma |
| 21:12.35 | florian | hi fng_sma |
| 21:13.29 | florian | pH5: btw... any success with the usb mode config tool? |
| 21:14.10 | pH5 | hm... http://pastebin.com/349522. but I won't recompile against 2.6 to investigate this. |
| 21:14.15 | pH5 | florian: no, still no kernel support |
| 21:14.36 | florian | pH5: :-( |
| 21:14.53 | pH5 | I wrote a mail to kernel-discuss, but nobody answered. and I don't really understand how to write usb kernel drivers |
| 21:14.53 | koen|slug | pH5: cairo did change api and stuff |
| 21:15.46 | pH5 | grr. now gpe-login gives me the calibration utility just before hitting ok. something is strange |
| 21:17.23 | florian | koen|slug: to free some memory on your Zaurus you could kill Gaim... i just noticed it was running. |
| 21:17.27 | koen|slug | pH5: could that util work with pxa255 udc ? |
| 21:17.39 | koen|slug | florian: even without gaim |
| 21:18.07 | pH5 | koen|slug: If pxa255 udc also uses the gadget drivers, yes. |
| 21:18.19 | pH5 | the utility just rmmods or insmods the g_... kernel modules |
| 21:18.21 | koen|slug | pH5: you could convince mreimer to test it |
| 21:18.38 | pH5 | mreimer: please test it. |
| 21:18.48 | mreimer | test what? |
| 21:18.52 | pH5 | ah, florian is the only one to have the patches :) |
| 21:19.01 | koen|slug | mreimer: usb mode gui |
| 21:19.13 | mreimer | point me to it, and I'll give it a try |
| 21:19.13 | koen|slug | to change between g_ether, g_storage and g_char |
| 21:19.20 | mreimer | cool |
| 21:19.35 | pH5 | s/g_char/g_serial/. should that be g_char? |
| 21:19.50 | koen|slug | no idea |
| 21:22.19 | pH5 | koen|slug: why does gpe-login 0.81 start the ts calibration when I press '=' on the on-screen keyboard? |
| 21:22.39 | koen|slug | heh |
| 21:22.55 | koen|slug | th '='' on xkbd has been acting strange for a while |
| 21:23.29 | koen|slug | I suspect it sends the 'record' signal |
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| 21:26.11 | koen|slug | hey pigeon |
| 21:27.50 | Philippe | could anybody bump the bitbake file for gpe-calendar up to 0.64? |
| 21:29.04 | pH5 | mreimer: I've sent an email to your vpop.net account. |
| 21:29.11 | mreimer | ok, thanks |
| 21:30.40 | koen|slug | Philippe: does it build for you? |
| 21:31.22 | koen|slug | my build is at gcc-cross,so I can't test right now |
| 21:31.26 | Philippe | koen, yes it does. |
| 21:31.40 | Philippe | NOTE: package gpe-calendar-0.64: completed |
| 21:32.25 | koen|slug | Philippe: do we want it in gpe 2.7 too? |
| 21:33.57 | Philippe | yep. |
| 21:34.22 | Philippe | koen look here for more info http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GPERoadmap |
| 21:36.39 | koen|slug | florian: there's a small problem with using the new dbus api in GPE: maemo uses 0.23 |
| 21:38.14 | florian | koen|slug: yes indeed... we sould consider to support both and use build time switches. |
| 21:38.40 | pH5 | ok, I guess that means I should redo my gpe dbus patches with #ifdefs? |
| 21:40.06 | florian | pH5: that would be very good imho... |
| 21:40.53 | florian | pH5: For which bits do you have patches and which ones are missing? |
| 21:41.43 | pH5 | florian: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=269 |
| 21:44.11 | florian | pH5: wow! That looks like you have been busy... |
| 21:44.53 | florian | pH5: Is there something in the dbus headers for an #ifdef or do we need to supply a switch? |
| 21:45.56 | florian | Philippe: Is that yours? http://handhelds.org/scap/port.15637.png |
| 21:46.02 | Philippe | yes indeed |
| 21:46.20 | Philippe | I wanted to post the link but then firefox crashed..(again) |
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| 21:46.55 | florian | oops... the last firefox crash i noticed is a long time ago. |
| 21:47.43 | pH5 | florian: I don't think there is a switch. |
| 21:48.09 | Philippe | it often crashes when you try to do save link or save images as |
| 21:48.24 | Philippe | mozilla has the same problem. I guess it is gecko related |
| 21:48.32 | koen|slug | Philippe: switch to gpe-mini-browser |
| 21:48.33 | pH5 | florian: bluez-utils' acinclude.m4 defines HAVE_<function-name> via AC_CHECK_LIB |
| 21:48.39 | Philippe | koen :-) |
| 21:49.11 | Philippe | it would push me to do some more work on it. |
| 21:50.31 | koen|slug | so you will be in the land of the screaming men choirs soon |
| 21:51.19 | Philippe | something like that. 2,5 weeks enjoying beer left |
| 21:52.33 | koen|slug | two weeks in belgium and 0.5 week on supplies? |
| 21:53.22 | Philippe | 2.5 weeks with easy re-supply. |
| 21:53.35 | florian | pH5: Dbus has DBUS_VERSION_MINOR which is used by NatworkManager e.g. |
| 21:54.46 | Philippe | Anybody has a clue which kernel works best on an 3850? |
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| 21:55.20 | fng_sma | hi I have my gpesyncd finished and I want do check it in. I also made a configure.ac and Makefile.am for it. Should I run some of the autotools before I upload it? |
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| 21:55.42 | florian | hmm.. we had a pretty good one in 0.8.2 i remember. |
| 21:55.59 | Philippe | 2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh37.1 works but no crackling audio and minilite is non-functional. 2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh37.4 does not build, 2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh40 does not boot decently |
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| 21:56.24 | Philippe | fng_sma, no you do not need to. |
| 21:56.32 | florian | fng_sma: it depends... in cvs you shouldn't check in generated files (like configure), but in a distribution package you would ship this. |
| 21:56.36 | Philippe | florian, thanks. I'll try to track it down. |
| 21:56.47 | florian | unknown26: hello! |
| 21:57.01 | unknown26 | Hello florian |
| 21:57.16 | koen|slug | hey unknown26 |
| 21:57.36 | unknown26 | hey koen|slug |
| 21:58.38 | unknown26 | Does anyone know where I can get some JTAG connector assembly instructions? HP wants to replace the whole board for 289$ but I think thats a bit pricey. |
| 22:01.11 | koen|slug | http://handhelds.org/projects/h5400.html has some info |
| 22:01.28 | koen|slug | and I know I encountered detailed instruction for the h5xxx somewhere |
| 22:01.37 | florian | My image looks good... |
| 22:01.54 | florian | I'm going to check that stuff in. |
| 22:02.38 | mreimer | pb_: do you mind if I commit the patch in http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1390 ? |
| 22:04.10 | koen|slug | Philippe: minibrowser doesn't like http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1390 |
| 22:04.50 | florian | mreimer: oh i forgot your fixes... i'll take a look in a few minutes. |
| 22:05.27 | mreimer | thanks florian. if you're referring to 1391 & 1392, I just committed them using my shiny new GPE commit privs :-) |
| 22:05.42 | mreimer | florian: I think I 1390 is the only bug I have outstanding |
| 22:06.02 | florian | mreimer: oh great! |
| 22:06.09 | mreimer | yes :-) |
| 22:06.44 | shiyee | Philippe: did you ever get a chance to look at gpe-timesheet? |
| 22:07.06 | koen|slug | 'night all |
| 22:07.28 | pH5 | good night |
| 22:07.39 | shiyee | night koen|slug |
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| 22:08.15 | unknown26 | night koen|slug thanks for the info |
| 22:08.36 | florian | koen|slug: good night |
| 22:08.49 | mreimer | good night koen|slug |
| 22:09.13 | fng_sma | night koen|slug |
| 22:09.22 | Philippe | night koen |
| 22:09.42 | Philippe | shiyee, it is on the list. I have been doing some work on it. |
| 22:09.47 | Philippe | not much though |
| 22:10.25 | florian | argh! |
| 22:10.51 | florian | Why is /dev/sound/dsp not writable for anyone?! |
| 22:34.06 | shiyee | night all |
| 22:34.12 | fng_sma | night shiyee |
| 22:34.19 | Philippe | night shiyee |
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| 22:36.04 | florian | hi RP |
| 22:36.24 | RP | hi florian |
| 22:37.34 | pb_ | mreimer: that patch looks fine, please go ahead and check it in. |
| 22:37.55 | mreimer | ok, thanks pb_ |
| 22:40.23 | mreimer | when an update like this is done, do I need to bump any version numbers? |
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| 23:12.22 | Philippe | Anybody using / noticing problems with smallbox()? (from libgpewidget) |
| 23:14.45 | florian | hmm no, but the clock applet causes trouble. |
| 23:15.34 | Philippe | florian : http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GPEToFixFor2_2e7 |
| 23:16.45 | Philippe | I have gpe-timesheet not allowing me to input anything. The only thing that still react are the ok and cancel button if you add a new task. (no text input is possible) |
| 23:18.46 | Philippe | me wonders if gtk_window_set_modal () could be the cause |
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| 23:21.40 | florian | good night |
| 23:21.48 | mreimer | night florian |
| 23:22.21 | Philippe | night florian |
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| 23:56.35 | Philippe | night all |
