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| 00:02.38 | koen|work | florian_: pong |
| 00:04.11 | florian_ | koen: ho |
| 00:04.58 | florian_ | koen: Did you getr my question about the changes in tune-arm926ejs.conf? |
| 00:05.12 | koen | I'm affraid not |
| 00:05.16 | koen | did it blow up again? |
| 00:05.32 | florian_ | koen: The compiler doesn't understand the parameters anymore... |
| 00:05.52 | koen | hmmm |
| 00:07.48 | florian_ | conftest.c:1: error: bad value (arm926ejs) for -mtune= switch |
| 00:10.54 | koen | weird |
| 00:11.11 | koen | the gcc manual for 3.4 knows about arm926ejs |
| 00:11.37 | koen | you could remove the include tune-arm926 stuff from nokia770.conf |
| 00:12.18 | koen | florian_: you may modify preferred-gpe-versions-2.7.inc if you want after adding new stuff |
| 00:13.04 | florian_ | koen: okay... i'll check to,orrow, currently i can't merge because xforwarding doesn't work :-/ |
| 00:13.16 | koen | D'oh |
| 00:13.30 | koen | 02:11 < CIA-4> koen org.oe.dev * r896b4049... /conf/distro/preferred-gpe-versions-2.7.inc: GPE 2.7: update gpe-bluetooth to 0.42 |
| 00:16.57 | florian_ | which -mtune switch did we use before? |
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| 00:18.51 | florian_ | Oh well.. i should get some sleep :-/ |
| 00:20.54 | florian_ | good night |
| 00:22.42 | koen | 'night florian_ |
| 00:22.59 | florian_ | koen: btw... i didn't push the new bb for gpe-bluetooth so far |
| 00:23.06 | florian_ | now really... |
| 00:23.56 | koen | ah well |
| 00:27.05 | yOyOeK | sii a all |
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| 08:08.21 | XorA | morning |
| 08:09.32 | __law__ | XorA, morning |
| 08:10.01 | __law__ | XorA, evince build successfully :-) |
| 08:11.12 | __law__ | XorA, i only hat to at EXTRA_OECONF = "--with-cups=no" to the libgnomeprint_2.8.2.bb file |
| 08:11.29 | XorA | __law__: cool |
| 08:11.44 | XorA | __law__: you bugged that one so it can be changed? |
| 08:12.28 | __law__ | there is no maintainer for this package |
| 08:12.49 | __law__ | should i and an bug report to bugzilla? |
| 08:12.58 | XorA | __law__: I think that one nominally is maintained by koen |
| 08:14.19 | XorA | __law__: I assuem that was picking up /usr/include/cups* stuff |
| 08:14.45 | __law__ | yes from my host machine |
| 08:15.46 | XorA | __law__: Ill change that |
| 08:15.51 | XorA | when Ive synced |
| 08:17.04 | __law__ | XorA, ok thanks |
| 08:17.08 | XorA | ah interesting, cups is in OE, but its not pretty, uses openssl |
| 08:21.43 | XorA | __law__: shouldnt that be --without-cups |
| 08:25.47 | XorA | __law__: ah is ok, the configure file doesnt agree with its own documentation :-) |
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| 08:37.02 | XorA | __law__: thats in |
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| 08:44.15 | Philippe_work | morning all |
| 08:44.17 | Philippe_work | hi shiyee |
| 08:44.26 | shiyee | morn Philippe_work |
| 08:47.41 | XorA | hi Philippe_work |
| 08:48.17 | Philippe_work | shiyee, are you going to put out an "official" gaim release soon? I put it on the roadmap for the 2.7 GPE release (http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GPERoadmap) |
| 08:49.29 | shiyee | Philippe_work: definitely... should be in the next gpe/familiar release |
| 08:51.18 | shiyee | is there any official date for the next release? im aiming for gaim to be finally released ~1sept (google req.) |
| 08:53.29 | Philippe_work | Well I am trying to get a release out soon, so that it can be in familiar 0.8.3 |
| 08:54.19 | Philippe_work | (see the mailing list for that. and the Roadmap and the Wishlist) |
| 08:55.15 | Philippe_work | But putting 1 september as a release date would be a good idea if Koen will hold up a familiar release until after that, and if Florian, pb, ... agree |
| 08:56.31 | shiyee | yes, just looked at my mail list archive, koen is talking about a freeze at about 1sept |
| 08:56.56 | shiyee | "I'm preparing to freeze package versions for familiar-0.8.3 next month |
| 08:56.56 | shiyee | (freeze, not a release)" (written at 15aug) |
| 08:57.31 | Philippe_work | shiyee, ok great. I'll put a mail out to ask for an opinion to freeze for 1 september a GPE 2.7 release |
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| 09:12.16 | rob_w | how can i invite ibot into a channel ?? |
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| 09:21.54 | florian_hrz | hi all |
| 09:26.43 | __law__ | are there any changes for c7x0 users on the patch gaim version? |
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| 09:31.29 | shiyee | __law__: what do you mean? |
| 09:32.07 | __law__ | shiyee, any gui changes for users with bigger resolutions? |
| 09:33.05 | shiyee | __law__: ahh... well, some things look different, like i removed some icons |
| 09:34.05 | shiyee | __law__: but it is of course fully usable, and if you find something that looks strange/stupid on higher res please make a scap and send me a link |
| 09:34.52 | __law__ | shiyee, ok |
| 09:43.09 | XorA | __law__: even on a c7x0 not all screens fitted on 640x480 |
| 09:43.29 | __law__ | XorA, :-( |
| 09:46.12 | XorA | __law__: __law__ not :-( this just means shiyee work has more value |
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| 09:55.57 | florian_hrz | hey pb_ |
| 10:00.12 | pb_ | florian_hrz: good morning |
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| 10:09.33 | rob_w | how can i get to the ibot maintainer on freenode ? |
| 10:11.32 | XorA | hey koen |
| 10:12.10 | florian_hrz | koen: good morning |
| 10:12.45 | pb_ | rob_w: tim riker is the ibot maintainer. |
| 10:13.30 | rob_w | pb_, has he a nick on irc currently ? |
| 10:13.40 | pb_ | rob_w: "TimRiker" or "BZFlag" |
| 10:14.00 | pb_ | he's in the USA, so he is probably asleep at the moment. |
| 10:15.31 | rob_w | ok , i hope he gets the botmail to TimRiker |
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| 10:17.22 | bedboi | hi all |
| 10:17.34 | florian_hrz | hey bedboi |
| 10:17.42 | bedboi | hola from spain |
| 10:18.25 | bedboi | any news in the last month? |
| 10:18.27 | florian_hrz | bedboi: uh... every time you show up here you are somewhere else. |
| 10:18.57 | bedboi | yep, i'll be back home in 29 august |
| 10:19.07 | bedboi | then i should be there for some time :) |
| 10:19.11 | florian_hrz | bedboi: We had some diskussions and thoughts about the device control backend. |
| 10:19.13 | florian_hrz | heh |
| 10:19.20 | bedboi | florian_hrz: cool. |
| 10:19.24 | koen | good afternoon all |
| 10:19.26 | koen | http://bur.st/~lathiat/avahi/announcement-0.1 |
| 10:19.32 | bedboi | florian_hrz: is there any written stuff? |
| 10:19.43 | bedboi | just to be up to date |
| 10:20.28 | florian_hrz | bedboi: not yet... but i want to do some structural changes to gpe-conf soon. That would be the right time to introduce a central device control and configuration. |
| 10:20.51 | bedboi | cool. i think that we can work together the next week. |
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| 10:21.56 | florian_hrz | bedboi: In addition to this we had some contact to mickey|zzZZzz about taking a look at the Opie framework and maybe having a chance to use a common backend in some future. |
| 10:22.12 | florian_hrz | bedboi: that would rock... |
| 10:22.17 | bedboi | what framework?P |
| 10:22.22 | bedboi | the device manager? |
| 10:22.50 | florian_hrz | bedboi: I don't know exactly, but iirc they have some kind och abstraction layer for device control. |
| 10:23.24 | koen | the ODevice classes in libopie2 |
| 10:24.09 | florian_hrz | ah right, that's the name |
| 10:24.23 | florian_hrz | koen: that looks pretty interesting |
| 10:26.00 | bedboi | florian_hrz: yep i looked at it the past year |
| 10:26.36 | bedboi | we can surely share device hilevel-drivers |
| 10:27.02 | bedboi | because we can use plugins either in gpe and in opie |
| 10:27.35 | florian_hrz | bedboi: that might be very useful... |
| 10:28.49 | bedboi | we should have just different front ends |
| 10:30.40 | florian_hrz | right... |
| 10:36.27 | koen | hey mickeyl |
| 10:36.33 | mickeyl | hi koen |
| 10:36.50 | Philippe_work | hey mickeyl |
| 10:37.01 | Philippe_work | Just saw you released the OO newsletter |
| 10:37.53 | florian_hrz | mickeyl: hi |
| 10:38.21 | XorA | hey mickeyl |
| 10:38.34 | mickeyl | yep |
| 10:39.16 | XorA | someone should out of badness link it on the pdaXrom forum :-) |
| 10:39.41 | florian_hrz | heh |
| 10:39.48 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 10:43.15 | bedboi | well, going out... see you soon |
| 10:43.39 | florian_hrz | bedboi: cu |
| 10:43.42 | pb_ | heh, "openembedded is on the run"? |
| 10:43.45 | bedboi | later |
| 10:43.46 | pb_ | that sounds a bit ominous |
| 10:43.51 | mickeyl | does it? |
| 10:44.02 | pb_ | yeah. "on the run" usually means you are a fugitive from the police. |
| 10:44.05 | mickeyl | oops |
| 10:44.15 | mickeyl | i thought it was an appropriate expression for "progressing like hell" |
| 10:44.20 | mickeyl | could you recommend a better phrase? |
| 10:45.39 | shiyee | mickeyl: if youre changing something anyway, my name is spelled wrong: Mads Chr. Oleses = Mads Chr. Olese_n_ :-) Nice newsletter anyway |
| 10:46.06 | mickeyl | shiyee: ok |
| 10:46.37 | pb_ | mickeyl: "on a roll" might have been what you were thinking of. |
| 10:46.57 | mickeyl | pb_: thanks |
| 10:47.00 | mickeyl | koen: :) |
| 10:47.02 | mickeyl | done |
| 10:49.04 | Philippe_work | koen, still planning on having the familiar freeze start of september? |
| 10:49.19 | koen | Philippe_work: yes |
| 10:52.24 | Philippe_work | Ok, good :-) I just sent out on e-mail to ask if everybody could agree with a gpe 2.7 freeze on 1 september. |
| 10:52.57 | Philippe_work | Would we make familiar 0.8.3 then? |
| 10:54.45 | Philippe_work | Anybody have any concerns about that now? |
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| 10:56.59 | koen | I'm more concerned about alsa and i18n |
| 10:57.04 | florian_hrz | Yes... we need to fix locales... |
| 10:57.07 | florian_hrz | heh |
| 10:57.32 | Philippe_work | florian_hrz, well we have a target date now :-) |
| 10:57.42 | florian_hrz | Ah OGG! |
| 10:58.23 | Philippe_work | maybe we need a to fix for 2.7 list. |
| 10:58.36 | florian_hrz | yep |
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| 11:02.10 | shiyee | pb_: should i set myself as maintainer of gaim in OE? you are in the gaim.inc ATM |
| 11:05.39 | Philippe_work | shiyee, if pb approves add your info here http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GpeMaintainerList |
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| 11:08.04 | yOyOeK | hi all |
| 11:09.20 | florian_hrz | hi yOyOeK |
| 11:12.04 | florian_hrz | brb |
| 11:12.05 | yOyOeK | ~seen aquadran |
| 11:12.09 | ibot | aquadran is currently on #gpe #opie #handhelds.org #oe |
| 11:15.28 | yOyOeK | florian: What mean brb? |
| 11:15.39 | shiyee_ipaq | brb = be right back |
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| 11:18.50 | __law__ | why gpe is useing xkbd? there is matchbox-keyboard also |
| 11:19.14 | reenoo | morning |
| 11:19.26 | shiyee | morn reenoo |
| 11:19.30 | reenoo | matchbox-keyboard still needs some work |
| 11:19.42 | reenoo | hey shiyee |
| 11:19.48 | __law__ | reenoo, ah thanks |
| 11:20.42 | reenoo | __law__: last time I checked it pretty much locked up my ipaq by consuming 100% CPU or causing issues with the X server or whatever |
| 11:21.30 | reenoo | it's also not usable on 240x320 screens |
| 11:21.53 | reenoo | not usable as in you can't read the glyphs |
| 11:22.53 | yOyOeK | I don't know if this a good place but h1910 after all nigh suspending whose unable to resume |
| 11:24.48 | Philippe_work | http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GPEToFixFor2.7?action=show add what needs to be fixed for 2.7 on this list |
| 11:28.13 | __law__ | next compile error :-( |
| 11:28.15 | __law__ | http://pastebin.com/344902 |
| 11:29.11 | __law__ | should i try to build xtst? |
| 11:29.14 | shiyee | __law__: Library requirements (xext xtst) not met |
| 11:29.15 | reenoo | __law__: #oe |
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| 11:35.12 | florian_kc | re |
| 11:40.29 | __law__ | he florian_kc |
| 11:41.17 | __law__ | gpe-bluetooth is updated to 0.42 in preferred-gpe-versions-2.7.inc but there is not 0.42 .bb file |
| 11:41.48 | florian_kc | __law__: in two minutes there is... |
| 11:42.00 | __law__ | florian_kc, thanks :-9 |
| 11:42.41 | reenoo | Philippe_work: updated |
| 11:42.49 | koen | florian_kc: wb |
| 11:43.23 | florian_kc | okay... syncing... |
| 11:43.45 | florian_kc | I'm also building a new sdk |
| 11:44.28 | florian_kc | mickey|lunch: Do you already use the OE SDK? |
| 11:46.17 | florian_kc | __law__: Try again... |
| 11:48.06 | Philippe_work | reenoo, nice update |
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| 11:51.16 | fng_sma | good morning |
| 11:51.26 | florian_kc | hi fng_sma |
| 11:52.07 | florian_kc | koen: About that arm926ejs issue... what did we use before? |
| 11:52.26 | koen | arm926ej-s |
| 11:52.33 | koen | but we also used the csl compiler |
| 11:53.27 | __law__ | florian_kc, currently i am not able to update my monotone repo? |
| 11:54.24 | florian_kc | koen: hmm... |
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| 11:54.34 | mimecar | hi |
| 11:54.45 | florian_kc | hi mickey|lunch |
| 11:54.48 | florian_kc | eh mimecar |
| 11:55.02 | mimecar | hi florian_kc |
| 11:55.06 | florian_kc | __law__: I'm not guilty... |
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| 11:55.47 | mimecar | hey shiyee_ipaq |
| 11:55.57 | shiyee_ipaq | hi mimecar... |
| 12:01.36 | fng_sma | hi mimecar |
| 12:01.52 | mimecar | hey fng_sma |
| 12:04.22 | koen | what's new in gpe-bluetooth 0.42 and gpe-conf 0.1.25? |
| 12:05.08 | mimecar | no idea koen |
| 12:05.27 | florian_kc | koen: The compilers (3.3 and 3.4) on my build machine don't unsderstand -mtune=arm926ejs either. |
| 12:05.41 | koen | florian_kc: and mcpu? |
| 12:06.15 | florian_kc | koen: hmm wait... i'm getting closer. one minute |
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| 12:08.27 | rob-w | hi |
| 12:09.10 | florian_kc | koen: gpe-conf fixes a pile of bugs and has support for jacket battery, more backlight settings and terminal font setting. |
| 12:09.14 | florian_kc | hi rob-w |
| 12:10.11 | rob-w | i registered a new channel for my pda phone |
| 12:11.19 | florian_kc | cool |
| 12:11.53 | rob-w | yeah, who is the gpio guru here |
| 12:18.18 | rob-w | well, first of all i need to know how to run a full backup |
| 12:18.19 | pb_ | shiyee: yes, please go ahead |
| 12:19.24 | florian_kc | koen: about gpe-bluetooth you should ask pb_ |
| 12:19.41 | koen | pb_: what's new and cool in the new gpe-bluetooth releases? |
| 12:19.55 | pb_ | just bugfixes, afaik |
| 12:20.14 | pb_ | bbiab |
| 12:22.50 | koen | florian_kc: is http://handhelds.org/scap/port.21372.png in gpe-conf yet? |
| 12:23.37 | florian_kc | koen: no... but it seems to be almost finished. |
| 12:24.14 | florian_kc | ~lart monotone |
| 12:25.47 | florian_kc | checking in a single fix takes about 5 minutes :-( |
| 12:25.47 | fng_sma | pb_: Hi! I added an eventid tag to libeventdb. Here is a diff: http://pastebin.com/344934 |
| 12:29.20 | koen | heh |
| 12:29.25 | koen | I tried to add that to OE |
| 12:29.57 | koen | do_configure fails on checking for /etc/mandrakeversion..... |
| 12:30.12 | florian_kc | heh |
| 12:30.17 | reenoo | hehe |
| 12:30.23 | florian_kc | okay... i think i can fix that |
| 12:30.40 | koen | monotone: 749.6k | 143.6k | 1100 | 207 | 136 |
| 12:32.53 | florian_kc | koen: oh well... |
| 12:36.57 | __law__ | network manager would be nice :-) |
| 12:37.31 | fng_sma | florian_kc: I added an eventid tag for libeventdb. It is needed by vcals and make my programming easier. It would be nice, if you could take a look at my diff and say if it's okay: http://pastebin.com/344934 |
| 12:38.50 | Philippe_work | florian_kc, 5 minutes! That is almost as fast as clearcase here at work! |
| 12:39.04 | fng_sma | oh I just saw in line 46 and 49 the wrong positioning of "{" and "}" (btw how are those called?). |
| 12:39.29 | reenoo | curly brackets? |
| 12:39.43 | koen | accollades? |
| 12:40.05 | fng_sma | reenoo: thanks ;-) |
| 12:40.55 | fng_sma | Here's the "clean" version http://pastebin.com/344939 |
| 12:41.27 | florian_kc | __law__: I'm working on it... |
| 12:41.53 | pb_ | fng_sma: that looks fine to me, though please write the event_db_make_eventid declaration as: |
| 12:41.54 | pb_ | gchar * |
| 12:41.56 | pb_ | event_db_make_eventid (void) |
| 12:41.57 | pb_ | { |
| 12:42.00 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:42.01 | pb_ | } |
| 12:42.35 | florian_kc | koen: The guys with the cheap and cool looking wireless cards? |
| 12:43.14 | __law__ | florian_kc, this could be one a gpe highlight - network-profile - fast network switching :-) |
| 12:43.32 | Philippe_work | fng_sma, use indent -gnu |
| 12:43.40 | fng_sma | pb_: okay. http://pastebin.com/344940 |
| 12:44.16 | pb_ | that's fine |
| 12:44.18 | pb_ | please check that in |
| 12:44.30 | fng_sma | Philippe_work: Do you have the commands for vim? |
| 12:44.45 | florian_kc | __law__: it isn't perfectly easy... it will need hal. |
| 12:45.22 | reenoo | florian_kc: which needs linux 2.6, doesn't it? |
| 12:46.03 | pb_ | yes |
| 12:46.22 | florian_kc | pb_: That bluetooth tool yesterday based on extended dbus support which doesn't seem to be upstream bluez tools :-( |
| 12:46.30 | florian_kc | reenoo: right |
| 12:46.56 | pb_ | florian_kc: yeah, it needs those crazy Noring patches. |
| 12:47.33 | pb_ | I think Marcel did have some plans to implement that functionality, but I don't know whether anything came of them yet. |
| 12:47.52 | florian_kc | In addition to this i'm not sure if hal is the right thing for PDAs.... |
| 12:47.59 | reenoo | florian_kc: hmm, that would suck a bit with h3600 support in mind :/ |
| 12:48.36 | florian_kc | pb_: Not much... obviously. |
| 12:49.12 | pb_ | florian_kc: oh well |
| 12:49.57 | pb_ | reenoo|afk: well, those h3600 guys can always fix up their kernel if they want to use hal. |
| 12:51.30 | florian_kc | pb_: that's always an option... but involves a pile of work... there are some more devices out there without proper 2.6 support. |
| 12:51.33 | Philippe_work | fng_sma, no... |
| 12:52.03 | Philippe_work | I just run indent -gnu <file> after editing it. (However I haven't done that lately with my gpe-mini-browser work. |
| 12:56.17 | koen | Philippe_work: you should be able to save typing 4 chars since -gnu should be the default :) |
| 12:58.16 | fng_sma | Philippe_work: wow, that's a cool program... (I know this sounds strange, but I'm again really impressed what kind of tools there exist...) |
| 12:58.58 | koen | fng_sma: just don't use it on php files ;) |
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| 13:08.25 | XorA | fng_sma: if you use emacs then Meta \ :-) |
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| 13:28.54 | mccarthy | hi all |
| 13:29.19 | mccarthy | I really will upload the fixed libschedule so you can all use gpe-calendar on the desktop soon :) |
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| 13:29.45 | florian_kc | mccarthy: yes yes please! |
| 13:30.01 | mccarthy | I am having a small issue with reading the at job number right now. It seems that Fedora didn't give me the "wwarning we will use /bin/sh" like ubuntu does |
| 13:30.25 | mccarthy | so I need to search my popen stream for "job" I guess and grab the number after it.... |
| 13:31.42 | florian_kc | mccarthy: Have you seen this: http://www.kernelconcepts.de/~fuchs/gpe/doc/libschedule/ |
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| 13:34.18 | mccarthy | florian_kc, cool! (no I saw the comments, but not the cool api page) ;) |
| 13:34.40 | mccarthy | I should only change it a little :) |
| 13:35.03 | __law__ | OT: where can i find the gnome-menu files? in fedora? |
| 13:36.01 | florian_kc | mccarthy: of course... that's all hacked from memory, i'll update the html as soon as i see a commit in the cvs timeline :-) |
| 13:36.18 | pb_ | hi mccarthy |
| 13:36.25 | mccarthy | does this look like it should work? |
| 13:36.36 | mccarthy | do |
| 13:36.36 | mccarthy | { |
| 13:36.36 | mccarthy | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:36.36 | mccarthy | } while (strcmp(junk, 'job')!=0); |
| 13:36.49 | mccarthy | hi pb_ |
| 13:36.51 | florian_kc | __law__: It should use .desktop files from /usr/share/applications |
| 13:38.18 | __law__ | florian_kc, thanks |
| 13:38.25 | florian_kc | mccarthy: two issues: It will loop forever if it doesn't find what it is searching for and use " instead of ' |
| 13:39.07 | mccarthy | ok |
| 13:39.17 | mccarthy | and there was no ; |
| 13:40.07 | mccarthy | can I do this then (to stop the loop)... |
| 13:40.32 | mccarthy | if(!fscanf(at_return, "%s ", &junk)) break; |
| 13:42.08 | mccarthy | I think that should work. Thanks for your help florian_kc. we are getting much closer now ;) |
| 13:42.44 | florian_kc | mccarthy: rock! |
| 13:42.59 | florian_kc | ...to say it with the words of pb_ :-) |
| 13:47.08 | pb_ | :-) |
| 13:47.18 | mccarthy | why would "at -c 86" give me a permission denied if I created the job #86?! |
| 13:49.36 | mccarthy | hmm |
| 13:49.47 | mccarthy | the at on my ubuntu box seems broken :( |
| 13:50.20 | mccarthy | can you guys create an at job on a desktop and then "at -c" it ? |
| 13:51.25 | mccarthy | here are the permissions on the spool file that it says I cannot read: |
| 13:51.28 | mccarthy | -rwx------ 1 mccarthy daemon 1848 Aug 24 09:49 g00057011e132d |
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| 13:54.01 | florian_kc | mccarthy: Works on my debian box... or it doesn't geve me an error at least. |
| 13:54.03 | mccarthy | so, anyway, it works right now. it just doesn't use my cute trick for making less work for itself. In other words, since I cannot cat the atjob it keeps erasing and rescheduling when gpe-calendar starts and stops (and when you make a new alarm) |
| 13:54.16 | mccarthy | florian_kc, it shows the content of the atjob? |
| 13:54.46 | mccarthy | (what are the permissions on the atjob file and/or spool directory?) |
| 13:57.13 | florian_kc | mccarthy: hmm wait... maybe i should create a job first. |
| 13:58.18 | florian_kc | mccarthy: I'm not that familiar... give me a hint how to create a job like you did. |
| 13:58.23 | mccarthy | /usr/bin/at -q g -f /tmp/atjob.txt 10:05 24.08.05 2>&1 |
| 13:58.36 | mccarthy | where atjob.txt has the commands to be run |
| 14:01.58 | florian_kc | hrm... my atd doesn't even start :-/ |
| 14:02.15 | mccarthy | well I guess I am further along than you ;) |
| 14:05.51 | florian_kc | ah.. here we go |
| 14:07.52 | florian_kc | mccarthy: that works pretty well now... |
| 14:08.55 | florian_kc | mccarthy: drwx------ 2 daemon daemon 4096 2005-08-24 16:10 atjobs |
| 14:09.53 | mccarthy | hmm |
| 14:10.02 | mccarthy | drwxrwx--T 2 daemon daemon 4096 2005-08-24 10:05 atjobs |
| 14:10.07 | mccarthy | what does the T mean? |
| 14:11.47 | mccarthy | anyway. it doesn't work exactly here, but it works well enough (i.e., all the canceling/scheduling is dumb, but it worked fine on my Fedora box and will likely work right for everyone else...even if it doesn't it still *works* just not elegantly :) |
| 14:12.06 | mccarthy | I think I will upload now (only 3 months late ;) |
| 14:12.38 | florian_kc | weeeee |
| 14:13.05 | florian_kc | Looks like we have some work for moray soon :-) |
| 14:13.05 | mccarthy | no to write a book in the changelog :-) |
| 14:13.18 | mccarthy | no -> now |
| 14:13.28 | florian_kc | heh |
| 14:19.14 | florian_kc | koen: isn't it just arm926ej-s ?! |
| 14:19.58 | koen | florian_kc: I don't know anymore, every time I adjust that hyphen it fails a few days later..... |
| 14:20.46 | fng_sma | I'll have to go... See you later. |
| 14:20.57 | florian_kc | koen: heh |
| 14:21.02 | florian_kc | koen: let me try ;-) |
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| 14:56.10 | koen | hey france_ |
| 14:58.17 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 14:58.37 | koen | hey CoreDump|home |
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| 15:20.21 | mccarthy | whew |
| 15:20.29 | mccarthy | I think I am finished uploading my changes! |
| 15:21.03 | mccarthy | florian_kc, moray is the one that eventually makes debian packages for it? |
| 15:21.42 | mccarthy | I changes gpe-clock, gpe-calendar, and gpe-announce so that they all properly use my changes to libschedule (for anyone wondering) |
| 15:22.17 | Philippe_work | mccarthy, does that mean that there is also a (upcoming) new release for those ? |
| 15:23.11 | mccarthy | Philippe_work, maybe. talk to koen or someone. I don't do releases anymore (now that we do bb and all that kind of rot) |
| 15:23.39 | koen | releases don't have anything to do with OE |
| 15:23.47 | mccarthy | koen, I changed the autotools stuff so that libschedule compiles right, but I have no idea what I am/was supposed to do to make oe or bb stuff work... |
| 15:24.21 | koen | make a release tarball and florian or me will update OE |
| 15:24.26 | mccarthy | koen, well, you *do* have to be able to build the things for arm, xscale, etc. |
| 15:24.51 | mccarthy | koen, where do I get those instructions again :) |
| 15:25.37 | Philippe_work | mccarthy, I believe you just have to do a "make dist" from the application/lib dir in your cvs tree |
| 15:25.58 | Philippe_work | And not forgetting to change the version numner in configure.ac |
| 15:28.08 | Philippe_work | Anyway I have to do some OE work tonight. I might do it and add the new releases on our roadmap. |
| 15:29.09 | florian_kc | mccarthy: yes |
| 15:29.19 | mccarthy | Philippe_work, so do you want me to do the version change and make dist or no? |
| 15:29.56 | Philippe_work | mccarthy, I will if you think it is useful at this stage to so. |
| 15:29.59 | mccarthy | (what the heck is the current version of libschedule?! the cvs log says 0.15, but then 0.14 *after* that?!) |
| 15:30.34 | mccarthy | Philippe_work, I think it will be useful, but let me bug pb_ about two small gpe-calendar thigns first ... |
| 15:30.43 | florian_kc | mccarthy: "make distcheck" is very useful |
| 15:30.54 | france_ | koen: hello |
| 15:31.02 | mccarthy | pb_, I know we talked about one of these before, but two issues with gpe-calendar bug me... |
| 15:31.17 | florian_kc | mccarthy: Ah taht was a bug i introduced... i accidentally increased a version twice. |
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| 15:31.59 | mccarthy | 1. my cute little icons for recurring and alarms don't seem to work anymore and I think it is related to "warning: gpe_find_icon_pixmap is obsolescent." but don't know how to fix it |
| 15:32.58 | Philippe_work | mccarthy, ok. I'll wait until those issues are resolved and then do the release work for you if you don't want too. |
| 15:33.52 | mccarthy | 2. in month_view double-clicking dates in the top row (i.e., roughly the first week of the month) doesn't seem to work well, any ideas?! |
| 15:34.09 | mccarthy | florian_kc, so what should the new version be? |
| 15:34.53 | florian_kc | mccarthy: 0.15 |
| 15:35.08 | mccarthy | florian_kc, ok cool... |
| 15:36.28 | pb_ | mccarthy: afaik, that warning should be harmless. |
| 15:36.39 | pb_ | I don't know what's going wrong with the month view. |
| 15:38.19 | florian_kc | ~stab hal |
| 15:38.20 | ibot | ACTION runs at hal with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 15:39.30 | florian_kc | I configured localstatedir correctly and it keeps searching in /usr/var instead of /var :-/ |
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| 15:43.36 | mccarthy | pb_, do you experience the same bug with month_view? |
| 15:46.53 | mccarthy | pb_, do you think that warning is related to this at all: Gdk-WARNING **: Attempt to draw a drawable with depth 24 to a drawable with depth 16 |
| 15:47.48 | pb_ | mccarthy: ah, yes, that would be a problem |
| 15:50.12 | mccarthy | pb_, when I use "display" to get image info on the desktop it says Deth: 8 bits |
| 15:50.20 | mccarthy | (for the bell.png) |
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| 15:55.37 | lardman|work | Afternoon all; I've just done a bitbake gpe-image for which I pulled last night; I have a strange error in log.do_rootfs: http://pastebin.ca/20989 |
| 15:56.24 | lardman|work | Basically the error for unsatisfied deps for task-bootstrap, those modules exist as ipks, I don't know why they're not picked up |
| 15:57.18 | reenoo | lardman|work: #oe |
| 15:57.31 | lardman|work | reenoo: righty-ho |
| 16:02.34 | florian_kc | mickeyl: I just tried to build the SDK... is it possible that some Opie libraries don't create development packages? |
| 16:02.44 | mickeyl | florian_kc: most likely |
| 16:04.28 | mickeyl | florian_kc: since we don't use autoconf there is no automatic install of headers |
| 16:04.47 | florian_kc | mickeyl: Oh well... do you want a list? This currently prevents us from building any SDK. |
| 16:05.08 | mickeyl | yeah, send that list to opie-devel@handhelds.org and cc: oe@handhelds.org |
| 16:05.17 | mickeyl | maybe someone can help to add that |
| 16:06.34 | florian_kc | Who added the Opie stuff without testing? |
| 16:06.34 | mccarthy | Philippe_work, nevermind about the two fixes. it seems they will take longer than I had hoped.... |
| 16:06.40 | mccarthy | later all |
| 16:13.09 | reenoo | florian_kc, mickeyl: I think we should split the SDK into a core SDK plus GPE and Opie (and E?) addons |
| 16:14.53 | florian_kc | reenoo: It might be compilcated to do this, but it might be a good idea to have a common sdk base in oe and two (or more) specialised variants. |
| 16:15.42 | mickeyl | sounds good to me |
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| 16:23.45 | koen | hey pH5 |
| 16:24.39 | pH5 | good evening, eh, 'morning', everyone |
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| 16:32.38 | florian_kc | hi pH5 |
| 16:35.16 | pH5 | hi florian_kc. i saw your usb conf scap shot. does it work? |
| 16:35.39 | florian_kc | pH5: Didn't you get my mail? |
| 16:36.57 | florian_kc | pH5: Looks like it does what it is expected to do... but that stuff seems to be broken on the 770. |
| 16:37.05 | pH5 | got it. :) |
| 16:37.27 | pH5 | same on hx4700, unfortunately |
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| 16:54.03 | pb_ | later all |
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| 17:25.19 | florian_kc | bbl |
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| 17:32.46 | fng_sma | hello again! |
| 17:32.51 | koen | hey fng_sma |
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| 17:48.05 | _law_ | i get errors if i try to start gpe-bluetooth :-( |
| 17:49.41 | _law_ | Failed to acquire service: Connection":1.11! not allowed to own the service "org.bluez.PingAgent" due to security policies in the configuration file |
| 17:50.51 | _law_ | Failed to open file '/usr/share/gpe/pixmaps/default/bluetooth/bt-on.png': No such file or directory |
| 17:53.34 | Philippe | re |
| 17:54.50 | koen | hey Philippe |
| 17:55.01 | koen | Philippe: any news from the project ridley people? |
| 17:55.36 | Philippe | koen: nothing much happened yesterday and no real reaction on florian's mail. I'll keep an eye on it though |
| 17:59.33 | koen | I see |
| 18:04.35 | rob_w | can someone tell me which device already uses a PX 263 ? |
| 18:07.36 | koen | the qtec 2020 or 9090 |
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| 18:11.27 | rob-w | PXA 263 |
| 18:11.34 | rob-w | i meant |
| 18:12.19 | koen | yes |
| 18:12.24 | koen | the pxa250 + flash |
| 18:13.29 | rob-w | ah |
| 18:31.36 | koen | Philippe: I installed a cvs version of mini-browser today, and the bookmark UI looks good |
| 18:32.09 | Philippe | koen, thanks :-) Now i need to make it work. |
| 18:32.29 | Philippe | koen you fixed the cvs script then I suppose? |
| 18:32.57 | koen | I added sqlite to the depends |
| 18:33.27 | Philippe | good:-) that was the only thing that had to change |
| 18:33.56 | Philippe | koen, I suppose all buttons fit on the screen> |
| 18:34.22 | koen | on my h5550, yes |
| 18:34.28 | koen | the h4700 is still hosed |
| 18:35.15 | Philippe | koen, do you mean that it looks bad on the h4700 or that your 4700 is broken atm |
| 18:35.24 | koen | broken |
| 18:35.39 | Philippe | koen, oef :-) |
| 18:35.58 | Philippe | no work for me to find out why it doesn't work |
| 18:36.02 | yOyOeK | idea: window manager writ to draw all graphic using xcompmgr (composit) |
| 18:36.04 | koen | pH5: how much of your patches in bugzilla did you check in already? |
| 18:36.33 | koen | yOyOeK: matchbox already uses the COMPOSITE extension |
| 18:36.48 | koen | yOyOeK: that's the 'special effects' setting in the look & feel applet |
| 18:37.27 | yOyOeK | koen: yyy extension ok but us composit to draw border (transparently) or top border :) |
| 18:42.01 | yOyOeK | I think it is possible. But it is out of my range of programing skills |
| 18:49.19 | pH5 | koen: none. but I'd like to check in #215, #230, #232 and #251 if nobody objects. |
| 18:49.19 | pH5 | #233 has a typo in the patch, #234 is not the right solution and #235 is just work in progress. |
| 18:51.15 | koen | pH5: I think nobody objected to the patches yet |
| 18:51.23 | koen | and you can always revert them ;) |
| 18:52.34 | pH5 | ok, so i'll go close some bugs for a change. |
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| 19:02.11 | _law1 | hey |
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| 19:05.51 | Georgy | good night ppl |
| 19:10.51 | reenoo | pH5: I've added a comment to #232 |
| 19:11.30 | pH5 | i just saw it |
| 19:11.53 | Philippe | reenoo, pH5 are that Oe bugs? |
| 19:12.06 | reenoo | yes |
| 19:12.25 | pH5 | there is a bug in handhelds.org bugzilla where somebody agreed to put busybox lsmod in /bin in 2003. |
| 19:12.32 | pH5 | but I can't find it |
| 19:13.03 | reenoo | the doesn't change anything |
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| 19:13.20 | reenoo | s/the/that/ |
| 19:13.22 | pH5 | so should we change module-init-tools to put lsmod in /sbin, then? |
| 19:13.39 | pH5 | or fix update-alternatives to allow for this special case? |
| 19:14.19 | pH5 | i'm not sure |
| 19:15.25 | reenoo | me neither. but moving the default (busybox) sounds a bit risky to me |
| 19:15.34 | koen | we do advertise as being debian based |
| 19:15.45 | koen | so doing the same as debian is expected behaviour |
| 19:15.59 | reenoo | we aren't debian based |
| 19:16.22 | reenoo | and blindly following debian would be stupid |
| 19:16.39 | koen | true |
| 19:16.53 | reenoo | you can't move essential binaries around at will |
| 19:17.27 | koen | we aren't |
| 19:17.30 | koen | busybox is |
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| 19:18.22 | reenoo | the point being? |
| 19:18.42 | koen | where does modutiles put lsmod? |
| 19:18.59 | reenoo | it doesn't matter where $package puts lsmod |
| 19:19.26 | koen | busybox should but modules in the same place as their bigger brothers |
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| 19:20.48 | reenoo | note that I'm not arguing about the correct location of lsmod here |
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| 19:22.43 | pH5 | i think modutils (kernel 2.4) had lsmod in /sbin, module-init-tools (kernel 2.6) puts them in /bin |
| 19:22.45 | pH5 | what now? |
| 19:23.09 | pH5 | just remove the update-alternatives stuff altogether and have them both? |
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| 19:26.34 | reenoo | best add that as a comment to bugzilla or send mail to oe@ |
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| 19:28.18 | florian | re |
| 19:28.29 | koen | hey florian |
| 19:30.00 | koen | florian: the new terminal look&feel applet is cute |
| 19:32.27 | koen | and for some reason glib 2.8 is working now |
| 19:33.51 | pH5 | for me it worked ever since it was checked in. |
| 19:33.58 | fng_sma | hi florian |
| 19:34.04 | koen | I had issues with fonts |
| 19:34.10 | koen | but they are gone now |
| 19:35.06 | pH5 | whee |
| 19:37.20 | florian | oh |
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| 19:44.03 | mimecar | hi |
| 19:44.29 | koen | hey mimecar |
| 19:44.41 | mimecar | hi koen |
| 19:44.53 | mimecar | i can run minimo :) |
| 19:45.15 | mimecar | is a very good program |
| 19:46.08 | _law_ | florian, gpe-bluetooth doesnt work on my zaurus. there are now images in the package. |
| 19:47.51 | koen | since minimo hasn't worked in months |
| 19:48.18 | mimecar | koen: I think mini-browser is not on openzaurus fed |
| 19:48.56 | koen | the opiezaurus people are a bit behind on the X stuff |
| 19:49.24 | rob_w | how again can i mount the jffs2 image into a my normal host pc filesystem ? |
| 19:50.13 | mimecar | koen: I have install sylpheed, but it's freeze and I must kill |
| 19:50.29 | mimecar | rob_w: mount -t jfss2 .... ? |
| 19:50.51 | mimecar | I have work with ext2, but no with jfss2 |
| 19:52.01 | koen | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/FamiliarBackupHowto?action=highlight&value=jffs2 |
| 19:52.03 | koen | try that one |
| 19:53.11 | rob_w | thanx ,, i found it a second before , |
| 19:54.12 | mimecar | koen: minimo looks better than dillo |
| 19:54.31 | koen | dillo is utter crap |
| 19:54.40 | koen | to say it politely |
| 19:54.57 | mimecar | is sylpheed the only mail client ? |
| 19:55.27 | koen | no, you can use pine and mutt too |
| 19:55.52 | mimecar | on console, aren't you ? |
| 19:56.13 | koen | on console yes |
| 19:56.27 | koen | maybe balsa or evo are in OE |
| 19:56.36 | mimecar | console apps are a bit dangerous |
| 19:56.52 | mimecar | ESC key close console on openzaurus |
| 19:57.56 | mimecar | use mutt esc key ? |
| 19:58.49 | koen | no idea |
| 19:59.07 | mimecar | on pc, me too |
| 19:59.12 | mimecar | but on zaurus... |
| 20:03.48 | mimecar | I will text mutt |
| 20:03.52 | mimecar | test |
| 20:05.04 | mimecar | does XQT works ? |
| 20:06.55 | mimecar | why ? |
| 20:07.21 | koen | it's pure hyprocisy |
| 20:07.31 | koen | adding extra layers of indirection |
| 20:07.51 | koen | but I can't get that into the heads of the TT people |
| 20:08.08 | mimecar | can run opie programs ? |
| 20:08.21 | koen | ah, you mean qvfb |
| 20:09.08 | mimecar | there're some interesting programs on opie |
| 20:09.17 | mimecar | I must go out a few minutes |
| 20:19.33 | florian | ew |
| 20:20.11 | florian | _law_: uh no... :-/ i'll investigate this later... |
| 20:20.28 | florian | First i need to get a breakfast (!) |
| 20:20.50 | fng_sma | florian: ??? where are you? |
| 20:21.49 | florian | fng_sma: hmm... i know... i'm still in Germany |
| 20:22.30 | fng_sma | florian: are you all right? Do you want to talk about it. Whenever you need someone, just msg me, okay? |
| 20:22.40 | florian | hehe |
| 20:23.17 | fng_sma | florian: drugs aren't any help. Stay away from them. |
| 20:23.27 | reenoo | heh |
| 20:23.29 | florian | fng_sma: For some reason i didn't manage to eat more then some sweets... |
| 20:24.19 | florian | The last kind of drugs i had was the whine i brought home from Finland... a donation by luc :-) |
| 20:24.54 | fng_sma | florian: you know the difference between whine and wine? |
| 20:26.20 | florian | fng_sma: Is there one? ;-) |
| 20:28.10 | Philippe | where do the release tarballs have to end up? |
| 20:29.54 | fng_sma | Philippe: Is there already a feature freeze? |
| 20:30.30 | Philippe | fng_sma, no not really. |
| 20:30.52 | Philippe | I am not the only one to take decisions. I am just trying to get things to move |
| 20:31.23 | fng_sma | Philippe: Or well are there currently built packages from the cvs, that should be in the next version? Because I currently do a lot of changes in libgpevtype, which might be useful in the next release. |
| 20:31.58 | mimecar | fng_sma: what are that changes ? |
| 20:32.06 | Philippe | Well fng_sma update the gpe-roadmap accordingly. |
| 20:32.31 | Philippe | I proposed a freeze by 1 september. together with familiar 0.8.3 |
| 20:32.38 | Philippe | So you still have plenty of time |
| 20:33.31 | fng_sma | Philippe: Sounds good, until then I'm hopefully done with my opensync stuff. |
| 20:34.03 | mimecar | i would like help with software developping, but i haven't free time :( |
| 20:35.06 | mimecar | Is needed help with documentation ? |
| 20:35.21 | koen | yes |
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| 20:54.21 | rob_w | where are the options with which xfbdev is called ? |
| 20:54.43 | koen | /etc/X11/* |
| 20:56.19 | florian | re |
| 20:56.28 | mimecar | hey florian |
| 20:57.52 | mimecar | florian: you're at home now ;) |
| 21:09.15 | florian | _law_: What's the error message from gpe-bluetooth? |
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| 21:36.04 | koen | hey pb_ |
| 21:36.10 | pb_ | hi koen |
| 21:37.33 | florian | pb_: _law_ just reported problems with gpe-bluetooth... |
| 21:37.47 | pb_ | florian: oh dear |
| 21:38.07 | florian | pb_: It seems to be unable to find the icons. |
| 21:38.54 | pb_ | that can't be good. do you have the exact error? |
| 21:39.22 | florian | I just openend an editor to fix that issue... i'm going to replace the two small icons then and add support for resizing the dock icon. |
| 21:39.44 | florian | pb_: not yet... i'm trying to reprodoce that here now. |
| 21:39.58 | pb_ | righto |
| 21:40.26 | shiyee | <_law_> Failed to open file '/usr/share/gpe/pixmaps/default/bluetooth/bt-on.png': No such file or directory |
| 21:40.37 | shiyee | but that was some hours ago |
| 21:40.49 | pb_ | ah, right |
| 21:40.56 | florian | shiyee: many thanks! |
| 21:41.30 | pb_ | mm, yeah, it looks like gpe-bluetooth's Makefile.am is defective. |
| 21:41.35 | pb_ | no surprise there, then. |
| 21:41.37 | pb_ | ~lart pb_ |
| 21:41.43 | pb_ | ibot: thanks |
| 21:41.43 | ibot | no worries, pb_ |
| 21:42.31 | florian | heh |
| 21:43.16 | pb_ | I guess I'll fix that tomorrow. I don't feel strong enough to take on automake right now. |
| 21:43.34 | yOyOeK | gogo for the station bay some bear to drink and some cigarettes. Someone want some? |
| 21:43.50 | pb_ | bears? that sounds dangerous |
| 21:44.10 | yOyOeK | beear budwaizer piwo |
| 21:44.12 | yOyOeK | :/ |
| 21:44.38 | florian | pb_: I have Makefile.am open :-) |
| 21:45.14 | pb_ | florian: I suspect the problem revolves around the definition of pixmaps_extradir. |
| 21:45.43 | pb_ | and/or pixmaps_DATA. |
| 21:47.11 | fng_sma | yOyOeK: you're from poland? |
| 21:47.31 | florian | yOyOeK: beer! :-) |
| 21:47.44 | koen | smacznego! |
| 21:48.02 | fng_sma | lubiem warka strong. |
| 21:48.49 | fng_sma | yOyOeK: gdzie jetesmy? |
| 21:48.52 | florian | pb_: its pixmapsdir |
| 21:49.04 | fng_sma | yOyOeK: s/stesmy/jestesmy |
| 21:49.32 | pb_ | florian: ah |
| 21:50.10 | fng_sma | yOyOeK: well, okay, looks like I lost all the polish I learned. |
| 21:50.30 | pb_ | heh |
| 21:59.41 | florian | Hmm.. how is the environment variable to set to make gpe-bluetooth finds the session bus? |
| 22:00.51 | pb_ | try "dbus-launch --session" |
| 22:00.55 | pb_ | whatever it prints is what you need to set. |
| 22:02.09 | florian | ah.. dbus-launch seems to be missing here on my workstation. |
| 22:03.06 | florian | found it.. |
| 22:03.11 | pb_ | ah, that would be a problem |
| 22:05.02 | florian | Now i only need to find the correct security setting to allow gpe-bluetooth to aquire that pin service. |
| 22:05.18 | pb_ | iirc, gpe-bluetooth should be shipping a dbus config file to enable that. |
| 22:05.48 | pb_ | bluez.conf, by the looks of it |
| 22:06.02 | pb_ | maybe Makefile.am is installing that in the wrong place too. |
| 22:06.08 | pb_ | (or not installing it at all) |
| 22:07.51 | florian | pb_: It doesn't install it... where should it go to? /etc/dbus-1? |
| 22:08.31 | pb_ | florian: whoops. /etc/dbus-1/system.d, I think |
| 22:09.17 | florian | ok |
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| 22:10.47 | florian | pb_: btw. your editor seems to replace spaces by a tab from time to time. |
| 22:11.27 | florian | hrm... or is that caused by my one?! |
| 22:14.28 | florian | pb_: gpe-bluetooth doesn't install a service file, right? but that file "peers/lap" needs to be installed... or is this obsolete now? |
| 22:14.51 | _law_ | n8 |
| 22:15.01 | florian | _law_: good night |
| 22:15.49 | pb_ | florian: that peers/lap file is for ppp. I think it still needs to be installed into /etc/ppp/peers. |
| 22:16.52 | florian | okay |
| 22:17.17 | pb_ | as for the editor thing, I have no idea. it might well be caused by one of my editors. |
| 22:18.36 | pb_ | I don't think emacs does that, but it's possible that I was careless when using vi. |
| 22:19.59 | florian | I could imagine it might be caused by Anjuta too... |
| 22:20.19 | florian | if i forget to turn on the correct coding style |
| 22:20.35 | florian | hell... what's gpoing on here... |
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| 22:24.09 | ||cw | space bar sticking? |
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| 22:27.18 | florian | *grr* |
| 22:27.37 | florian | ~lart hald |
| 22:28.39 | florian | ~lart autotools for a useless sysconfdir default |
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| 22:32.24 | fng_sma | erm, I have a small problem: I'm trying to implement the exportation of the recurrences in an vevent and therefore I need all the r* tags of a calendar item at once. Now I have two Ideas to implement this in vevent.c (libgpevtype): |
| 22:33.52 | fng_sma | 1. use static variables: in function vevent_interpret_tag and collect all and put them into the vevent. The problem: I might set it before I have all the tags. (I don't know how to solve that). |
| 22:34.43 | fng_sma | 2. make all in vevent_from_tags: There is a while loop and I could do all this after it. It would be easier, but cleaner if it all was in vevent_interpret_tag. - Any comments? |
| 22:35.55 | pb_ | I don't think that using static variables would be an acceptable solution. Your (2) sounds fine, or you could add some extra storage for the recurrence context and pass that in to vevent_interpret_tag. |
| 22:39.59 | fng_sma | pb_: I think I'll take no. 2. |
| 22:40.17 | pb_ | righto |
| 22:45.11 | pb_ | gotta be at the office early tomorrow for an investor meeting. |
| 22:45.15 | Philippe | night pb_ |
| 22:45.25 | fng_sma | bye pb_ |
| 22:45.32 | pb_ | night all |
| 22:58.56 | Philippe | goodnight people |
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| 23:02.43 | bash | way does work the gpe-nmf when use ogg files ? |
| 23:16.50 | fng_sma | bash: I really would like to help you, but I have no experiences with gpe-nmf :-( |
| 23:17.01 | bash | ahah ok |
| 23:17.04 | bash | no problem. |
| 23:17.07 | bash | ;=) |
| 23:17.18 | fng_sma | have a nice night/day/whatever |
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| 23:28.34 | bash | anyone ? |
| 23:28.43 | bash | have the same problem ? |
| 23:29.15 | reenoo | gpe-nmf doesn't support ogg playback atm |
| 23:29.54 | bash | ok. |
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| 23:40.23 | kroka1 | !!! A VOLUNTER WANTED !!! Need someone with a iPaq with enough space on his handheld. ".NET for GPE" |
| 23:40.33 | kroka1 | And enough time |
| 23:40.52 | kroka1 | to speak and communicate with me |
| 23:40.59 | kroka1 | ----end |
| 23:41.21 | kroka1 | The GNU need ->You<- :) |
| 23:42.48 | kroka1 | I provide: 1) Binary file for H3600 (can compile for your device) |
| 23:42.59 | kroka1 | 2) Test programs |
| 23:43.32 | koen | kroka1: send a mail to familiar@ and gpe@ |
| 23:44.00 | kroka1 | I need just one person... |
| 23:44.30 | kroka1 | I need someone who I could talk online and he could tell me what he see and make screenshot |
| 23:44.53 | kroka1 | koen: Do you want ? ;) |
| 23:45.51 | kroka1 | I made a version with Debuggin symbols |
| 23:46.11 | kroka1 | So needed one who can uss gdb |
| 23:46.21 | kroka1 | Anyone? |
| 23:46.31 | bash | i dont have a ipag. |
| 23:46.34 | bash | ipaq |
| 23:46.38 | bash | sorry. |
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| 23:47.17 | koen | ipaq -> thing with arm cpu |
| 23:47.32 | kroka1 | koen: not a thing with arm CPU |
| 23:47.39 | kroka1 | I need AN IPAQ |
| 23:47.41 | kroka1 | with GPE |
| 23:48.01 | bash | for what ? |
| 23:48.09 | kroka1 | To test ".NET for GPE" |
| 23:48.12 | koen | kroka1: why an ipaq? |
| 23:48.29 | kroka1 | koen: Because GPE works only on iPaq |
| 23:48.32 | bash | your use the mono ? |
| 23:48.39 | koen | kroka1: bullshit |
| 23:48.48 | koen | utter bullshit |
| 23:48.48 | bash | i have a zaurus |
| 23:48.55 | bash | its work perfert |
| 23:49.08 | kroka1 | koen: I don't understand you... |
| 23:49.22 | koen | 01:48 < kroka1> koen: Because GPE works only on iPaq |
| 23:49.26 | koen | bullshit |
| 23:49.29 | koen | nonsense |
| 23:49.30 | koen | crap |
| 23:49.30 | bash | xD |
| 23:49.32 | kroka1 | bash: a zaurus, does it have GPE ? |
| 23:49.45 | koen | gpe can run an any device |
| 23:49.51 | kroka1 | koen: GPE doesn't work on x86 |
| 23:49.54 | koen | ipaq, zaurus, simpad, nokia |
| 23:49.57 | bash | http://www.openzaurus.org/ |
| 23:50.03 | bash | yeah, |
| 23:50.15 | koen | http://handhelds.org/~rw/gpe/gpe.png |
| 23:50.21 | koen | gpe on x86 |
| 23:50.29 | koen | kroka1: don't talk bullshit |
| 23:50.38 | koen | gpe can run an any device |
| 23:50.51 | kroka1 | koen: I try to use 'bitbake gpe-image' |
| 23:50.51 | koen | it's highly portable C code |
| 23:50.53 | kroka1 | Doesn't work |
| 23:50.55 | kroka1 | dot |
| 23:50.57 | koen | so? |
| 23:51.30 | koen | I even have GPE running in OSX on a powerpc cpu |
| 23:51.59 | koen | it runs on anything with an X server |
| 23:52.01 | kroka1 | koen: If you would explain me how to compile GPE for a x86 that would be cool |
| 23:52.20 | koen | ./configure &&make &&make install |
| 23:52.45 | kroka1 | koen: this is non-sence |
| 23:52.46 | koen | or 'apt-get install <package>' on debian |
| 23:53.19 | kroka1 | We talk about handhelds |
| 23:53.26 | kroka1 | And this is evident |
| 23:54.06 | koen | 01:49 < koen> 01:48 < kroka1> koen: Because GPE works only on iPaq |
| 23:54.06 | koen | 01:49 < koen> bullshit |
| 23:54.06 | koen | 01:49 < koen> nonsense |
| 23:54.06 | koen | 01:49 < koen> crap |
| 23:54.09 | kroka1 | bash: Do you have GPE installed? |
| 23:54.18 | kroka1 | koen: Ok. I agree i was wrong |
| 23:54.23 | bash | yeah, |
| 23:54.32 | bash | i installed gpe in my zaurus sl-5500 |
| 23:54.46 | kroka1 | koen: I just don't know GPE that good. I'm sorry. I didn't want to make you feel bad |
| 23:55.45 | kroka1 | koen: It was clear that i needed a handheld |
| 23:56.37 | kroka1 | koen: And i wanted to say this saying, "Becaue GPE works only on iPaq". I wanted to say "I need a GPE on a ARM cpu' |
| 23:57.07 | kroka1 | ok. |
| 23:57.37 | kroka1 | bash: Do you have enough space on your handheld? |
| 23:57.43 | bash | no, |
| 23:57.44 | bash | :( |
| 23:57.46 | kroka1 | koen: Would you like to work with me? |
| 23:58.26 | kroka1 | keon: It's 3:58 here. I guess it is a good reason for a mistake? |
| 23:59.48 | reenoo | 'night all |
| 23:59.56 | koen | ;night reenoo |
