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| 00:58.48 | reenoo | 'night all |
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| 07:48.41 | XorA | morning |
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| 08:06.56 | koen | good morning all |
| 08:10.16 | pigeon | jserv2: hi, you around? do you know of a good online tw map? |
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| 08:17.33 | realloc | Hello! How can i change virtual keyboard from xkbd to matchmox-keyboard? |
| 08:18.48 | koen | tap on the little triangle and select the other 'keyboard' entry in the list |
| 08:20.48 | realloc | koen: thnx:) I will try. The problem is that I can't login if i change layout of xkbd |
| 08:21.08 | koen | aha |
| 08:24.53 | krokas_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:24.54 | krokas_ | | pthread.c:(.text+0x91b): undefined reference to `_errno' |
| 08:24.54 | krokas_ | | pthread.c:(.text+0x933): undefined reference to `_h_errno' |
| 08:24.54 | krokas_ | | pthread.c:(.text+0x939): undefined reference to `_res' |
| 08:25.10 | krokas_ | Or how shoud i compile it for a x86? |
| 08:25.20 | krokas_ | I just choosed x86 in target machine? |
| 08:25.30 | krokas_ | Or what is wrong there? |
| 08:34.38 | krokas_ | Well, could you tell me then how to compile for a x86 box ? |
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| 08:44.28 | XorA | hey Philippe_work |
| 08:44.38 | Philippe_work | hello XorA |
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| 09:24.49 | reenoo | morning |
| 09:25.40 | Philippe_work | hello reenoo |
| 09:28.20 | reenoo | hey Philippe_work |
| 09:29.23 | koen | hey reenoo |
| 09:32.35 | reenoo | hi koen |
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| 09:34.50 | florian_hrz | hi |
| 09:36.06 | reenoo | moin florian_hrz |
| 09:39.15 | pb_ | florian_hrz: good morning |
| 09:39.37 | koen | hey florian_hrz |
| 09:46.29 | XorA | why does the gpe time and date setting app not update the day/month/year? |
| 09:46.44 | florian_hrz | that was a short trip... bbl |
| 09:50.39 | koen | XorA: it did before, but it doesn't seem to do it anymore |
| 09:50.50 | koen | XorA: does the date selector widget work for you? |
| 09:51.12 | XorA | koen: not tried that, was trying setting time from network |
| 09:51.50 | koen | I have 'ntpdate -b time.apple.com' in a startup script |
| 09:52.14 | XorA | koen: date selector doesnt work |
| 09:52.20 | XorA | koen: but typing date in does |
| 09:53.05 | koen | I suspect one of our mouse modifier patches interfere with the date widget |
| 09:53.17 | XorA | koen: http://www.dsitri.de/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=97&start=0& |
| 09:53.31 | XorA | aparently ConnectPlus can do both at same time |
| 09:54.55 | koen | cool |
| 09:55.05 | XorA | koen: we just need to get the right magic |
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| 10:01.40 | krokas_ | I'm compiling GPE for x86. Does this tells your anything: ..../home/krokas/Desktop/Dev/OE/tmp/work/glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r0/build-i386-linux/linuxthreads/libpthread_pic.a(pthread.os): In function `__pthread_reset_main_thread': |
| 10:01.41 | krokas_ | pthread.c:(.text+0x91b): undefined reference to `_errno' |
| 10:01.41 | krokas_ | pthread.c:(.text+0x933): undefined reference to `_h_errno' |
| 10:01.41 | krokas_ | pthread.c:(.text+0x939): undefined reference to `_res' |
| 10:01.57 | krokas_ | In Google someone has already meet such a probelm |
| 10:02.25 | krokas_ | http://pastebin.ca/18597 |
| 10:02.31 | krokas_ | At least he pasted it |
| 10:02.34 | pb_ | I don't think LinuxThreads is supported on x86 anymore. Try with NPTL. |
| 10:03.44 | krokas_ | pb_: hi. Can you tell me what local.conf to set up for this ? |
| 10:05.23 | krokas_ | I don't know what is NPTL :( |
| 10:06.52 | pb_ | krokas_: have a look at epia.conf; I think it has the bits. |
| 10:08.22 | krokas_ | pb_, thanks, i will look there |
| 10:11.37 | krokas_ | pb_, Do you know when the ARM cluster is back? |
| 10:12.19 | krokas_ | Really need it for development :( |
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| 10:17.31 | florian_kc | re |
| 10:17.37 | koen | hey florian_kc |
| 10:20.41 | XorA | ok fess up who put this in? GtkWIdget *widget, line 258 in gtkstyle.h |
| 10:30.50 | pb_ | krokas_: sorry, I don't know. best to check with france. |
| 10:31.10 | pb_ | ibot, france? |
| 10:31.10 | ibot | somebody said france was the father of the skiff cluster, or a country in Europe |
| 10:32.15 | florian_kc | :-) |
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| 11:51.26 | koen | mickey|sick: did you manage to run the evas tests on the spitz? |
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| 12:05.21 | krokas_ | mpfr-native-2.1.1-r1: 16:04:03 ERROR 404: Not Found. |
| 12:05.45 | krokas_ | It is not found anywhere. What shoud i do ? = |
| 12:05.57 | pb_ | krokas_: is it available at oesources.org? |
| 12:06.03 | pb_ | if not, you will have to change the version to one that is available |
| 12:06.10 | koen | pb_: pure shell!?!? |
| 12:06.19 | krokas_ | pb_: nope |
| 12:06.50 | florian_kc | pb_: ! |
| 12:07.08 | pb_ | koen: well, no, actually it's the Xilinx WebPACK installer. It's basically a massive shar archive with all their binaries in. |
| 12:07.24 | pb_ | unfortunately it wants to extract a pile of temporary stuff into /tmp, and none of my machine have enough space in that filesystem |
| 12:07.35 | pb_ | ("a pile" meaning about 800MB in this case) |
| 12:08.07 | pb_ | editing it is a bit painful though |
| 12:09.57 | pb_ | ah, here we go. export TMPDIR=/var/tmp |
| 12:11.53 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 12:13.31 | pb_ | hrm, anyone know where I can get an implementation of libXm.so.3 for debian? |
| 12:13.37 | pb_ | lesstif only seems to have libXm.so.2 |
| 12:15.21 | pb_ | ah, libmotif3 looks like the thing |
| 12:23.09 | koen | motif, that's a blast from the past |
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| 12:36.36 | reenoo | yay |
| 12:36.50 | reenoo | sound is coming out of the speaker :) |
| 12:36.53 | reenoo | heh |
| 12:37.34 | koen | reenoo: congrats! |
| 12:42.05 | koen | nmf and ogg? |
| 12:43.17 | reenoo | rhythmbox player backend running outside rhythmbox |
| 12:44.02 | koen | ah, your super-secret mediaplayer ;) |
| 12:47.46 | reenoo | still needs some refactoring to use decodebin instead of spider |
| 12:49.18 | reenoo | ~lart spider for being deprecated |
| 12:50.43 | reenoo | fwiw, spider works fine on my laptop |
| 12:50.54 | reenoo | not using ivorbis though |
| 12:52.41 | reenoo | ~lart decodebin for being picky about when you link the sink to it |
| 12:54.38 | reenoo | koen: there's still a *lot* of code to write. I haven't decided whether I'll keep using rb's player backend either |
| 12:56.58 | pb_ | yah, ivorbis has always hated spider |
| 12:57.49 | reenoo | the problem is.. the metadata indexing doesn't work with decodebin |
| 12:58.17 | reenoo | or rather it will read the entire file. which takes a while... |
| 13:00.16 | pb_ | we did use to have a spider patch to make ivorbis work. I'm not sure what became of that. |
| 13:00.25 | pb_ | maybe it was merged, and this new problem is a different one. |
| 13:02.14 | reenoo | think you could find the patch so I can check whether it's been merged upstream? |
| 13:02.59 | pb_ | I don't think I can lay my hands on it right away. Try poking around in the gnome bugzilla: look for bugs that I filed against gstreamer. |
| 13:03.24 | reenoo | will do. thanks |
| 13:03.25 | pb_ | iirc, the problem was related to ivorbis's desire to have seekable input interacting badly with the caching that spider did internally. |
| 13:03.44 | pb_ | when it tried to rewind the stream, spider was accidentally feeding it the same block of data twice. |
| 13:04.00 | pb_ | or not feeding it some of the data at all, or something like that. |
| 13:04.09 | reenoo | ah |
| 13:04.39 | pb_ | most of the codecs can cope with that, but ivorbis seems to be a bit touchy. if it sees "corrupt" data during header parsing, it just gives up. |
| 13:18.55 | pb_ | ah, here we go, it was #98193 |
| 13:20.06 | pb_ | sadly the actual patch doesn't seem to be in the bug, though |
| 13:20.47 | reenoo | ah, I was looking for bugs filed against gst-plugins |
| 13:21.48 | reenoo | I think the current error message looks different though |
| 13:26.02 | reenoo | anyways. off to a garage to have the oil exchanged in my car |
| 13:26.04 | reenoo | later all |
| 13:26.09 | koen | cu |
| 13:31.54 | pb_ | mm, right |
| 13:31.57 | pb_ | enjoy |
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| 13:46.22 | koen | hey Kompo_ |
| 13:50.00 | Philippe_work | hey Kompo |
| 13:50.21 | Philippe_work | I'll be testing your latest patch tonight. BTW does that mean cookies will work now? |
| 14:37.19 | koen | hey CoreDump|home |
| 14:38.22 | CoreDump|home | hi koen, hey channel |
| 14:38.54 | koen | CoreDump|home: can altboot be used on a keyboardless pda (ipaqs)?y |
| 14:38.57 | koen | ? |
| 14:39.10 | CoreDump|home | nope |
| 14:39.28 | koen | what keys does it need? |
| 14:40.22 | CoreDump|home | it needs at least one hardware button (registered as a keyboard button -> /proc/interrupts) to be activated during boot |
| 14:40.25 | koen | most pdas have cursor keys + enter (joypad) |
| 14:40.48 | koen | and 4 extra buttons (calendar, contacts, etc)r |
| 14:40.53 | CoreDump|home | koen: well, it might work by mapping letters to these keys |
| 14:41.14 | CoreDump|home | it's using "read" to get input |
| 14:41.20 | koen | I see |
| 14:41.35 | CoreDump|home | one could map letters to these buttons |
| 14:41.44 | koen | yeah |
| 14:41.50 | CoreDump|home | and remap them afterwards, a bit hackish but might do the trick |
| 14:42.34 | koen | any chance you'll rewrite it in C using ncurses? |
| 14:42.52 | CoreDump|home | none, sorry |
| 14:43.15 | CoreDump|home | well, maybe "dialog" might work |
| 14:48.51 | reenoo | just replace read with <insert app that reads keys here> |
| 14:50.39 | CoreDump|home | year, busybox's read sucks anyways. It keeps picking up stuff it shouldn't :\ |
| 14:51.57 | CoreDump|home | I'll play w/ "dialog" and see how it goes, how big it is etc |
| 14:52.33 | CoreDump|home | w/ dialog you could probably use the cursor keys to select an item and use Enter/whatever to activate it |
| 14:52.34 | zecke | CoreDump|home: tell that mickeyl |
| 14:52.52 | CoreDump|home | mickey|sick: busybox's dialog sucks :) |
| 14:53.02 | CoreDump|home | err read |
| 14:54.23 | CoreDump|home | time to import JustinP's altboot adjustments for spitz |
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| 15:33.18 | mickey|sick | CoreDump|home: psst... don't tell anyone, but one of my goals for Ângström is to have a graphical boot menu... :) |
| 15:33.36 | CoreDump|home | :D |
| 15:34.42 | koen | mickey|sick: pssst: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/drupal/?q=about |
| 15:34.55 | XorA | mickey|sick: one of the options should be WinCE, which just displays a BSOD |
| 15:35.18 | CoreDump|home | hehe |
| 15:35.21 | koen | XorA: have you seen OSX's SOD? |
| 15:35.31 | XorA | koen: nope |
| 15:35.33 | koen | it has transparency for crying out loud! |
| 15:35.40 | koen | and i18n! |
| 15:35.50 | CoreDump|home | well, FWIW, I've never seen my iPAQ bluescreen. Crashing, yes (a lot) |
| 15:36.17 | XorA | CoreDump|home: the only Ipaq ive used just used to lockup or whiteout |
| 15:36.19 | florian_kc | Philippe_work, Kompo_: Check out the maemo mailinglist - now we gonna have fun :-) |
| 15:36.31 | koen | 17MB! |
| 15:36.44 | CoreDump|home | XorA: same here :) |
| 15:36.55 | mickey|sick | XorA: hehe |
| 15:37.29 | koen | florian_kc: but more choice is good |
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| 15:38.00 | CoreDump|home | XorA: well, I still have the wince ROM backup somewhere. Not that I need it heh |
| 15:38.33 | Kompo_ | florian_kc: I've actually "worked" with manaos guys |
| 15:38.37 | koen | rom backup? |
| 15:39.08 | florian_kc | koen: of course... everythign else would be nasty for long time goals and quality. |
| 15:39.27 | koen | florian_kc: maemo isn't qtopia ;) |
| 15:39.39 | Philippe_work | florian_kc, I just noticed :-) |
| 15:40.10 | florian_kc | Kompo_: cool.. they seem to pretty good, i tried some of the other packages they did and they seem to be pretty nice. |
| 15:41.25 | Kompo_ | florian_kc: yes. I think they should've improved since last i saw their code.. it'd be wonder if they didnt.. :) |
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| 15:42.09 | Kompo_ | florian_kc: we had discussion about them gradually taking over gtk-webcore maintainance or atleast start patching/commiting, but haven't seen anything at mailinglists. |
| 15:42.29 | Philippe_work | hmm interesting they can open new windows, but not browse between them... They state 2x that they can resize the text size. |
| 15:43.22 | Philippe_work | No fullscreen it seems. |
| 15:43.36 | florian_kc | Kompo_: hmm okay, some help with this would be really nice. i don't think it is that much work to make it a perfect rendering library for all kind of mobile devices. |
| 15:43.48 | CoreDump|home | any news on the enlightenment OE status? :) These screenshots sure look hot |
| 15:45.17 | Kompo_ | florian_kc: yeps. I'm currently (right now) making fresh port out of webkit cvs version. It just pains, this autotools/bootstrap/compile hell is the worst |
| 15:45.21 | mickey|sick | since i called in sick until friday and I don't thik I'll work on my Ph.D when at home, I guess we have something buildable like e-image until then ;) |
| 15:46.09 | Philippe_work | Kompo_, I will submit you my debian package stuff for gtk-webcore tonight if you want. |
| 15:46.23 | Philippe_work | I just need to get the build dependencies right. |
| 15:46.49 | CoreDump|home | :) |
| 15:47.10 | Kompo_ | Philippe_work: On other hand it'd be great - on other then again, it's a bit too early, as the project is currently all over the place |
| 15:47.17 | florian_kc | Kompo_: that sounds really good... compiling of it is nasty, but i't can't be nastier than mozilla... |
| 15:47.27 | Philippe_work | Kompo_, (btw. change aclocal and automake to their 1.7 versions in autogen.sh and the autotools scripts work fine) |
| 15:47.28 | koen | CoreDump|home: I've run some benchmarks |
| 15:47.31 | Kompo_ | Philippe_work: oh, you mean to me, not to debian. that'd be cool |
| 15:48.08 | Philippe_work | Kompo_, indeed not to debian :-) Package quality is not good enough I guess. |
| 15:48.15 | koen | CoreDump|home: http://pastebin.ca/19614 |
| 15:48.36 | Philippe_work | Binary packages of latest cvs before your last submits are at www.handhelds.org/~philippe/maemo |
| 15:49.09 | CoreDump|home | koen: ouch |
| 15:49.29 | Philippe_work | Kompo_, and I really tried to get into trouble with multi-threading, smp etc... but I gtk-webcore did not crash |
| 15:49.44 | CoreDump|home | so it looks good but isn't any useful. Our userbase will love it :) |
| 15:50.03 | koen | CoreDump|home: the slowest result was 23FPS |
| 15:50.19 | koen | if you've seen the test, you'll know that fast enough |
| 15:50.32 | CoreDump|home | h5550: 0.194 |
| 15:50.34 | CoreDump|home | ? |
| 15:50.38 | koen | the h5550 is really bad video bandwidth |
| 15:50.41 | koen | CoreDump|home: that one |
| 15:51.12 | Kompo_ | Philippe_work: I may be able to run some of gpe stuff someday, I brought ipaq3600 from work just to try familiar.. |
| 15:51.31 | koen | CoreDump|home: I suspect a score of '1' means 120FPS |
| 15:51.37 | CoreDump|home | oh lol |
| 15:52.01 | CoreDump|home | i can live w/23 fps |
| 15:52.24 | koen | bitbake evas-fb and run evas_fb_test |
| 15:52.43 | koen | it will run for 20 seconds and look at the average fps |
| 15:53.12 | koen | it uses floatingpoints too, so I suspect softfloat will be a lot faster |
| 15:53.43 | XorA | koen: when will you join us in softfloat world? |
| 15:53.52 | koen | when the EABI works |
| 15:54.30 | koen | or when I dust of the c700 :) |
| 15:54.51 | XorA | bah, leaving C7x0 devices to gather dust, blasphemy |
| 15:54.55 | CoreDump|home | evas-fb b0rked on some "virtual" deps yesterday, will try again |
| 15:55.11 | koen | XorA: a c700? with 32MB ram and a broken cpu? |
| 15:55.32 | XorA | koen: you can test kernels on it :-) |
| 15:55.35 | koen | :) |
| 15:57.02 | koen | mickey|sick: I think I can pursuade the ipkgfind to manage feeds to |
| 15:57.08 | mickey|sick | that'd rock |
| 15:57.09 | koen | upload/split/delete/re-index |
| 15:57.50 | koen | it would only require an extra column 'local_path' |
| 15:58.07 | koen | there rest is straightforward |
| 15:58.50 | XorA | time to escape work |
| 15:59.10 | Philippe_work | Kompo_, try one of the latest familiar gpe snapshots. http://familiar.handhelds.org/snapshots/v0.8.3/20050808/ |
| 15:59.11 | koen | krokas_: yes? |
| 15:59.26 | Philippe_work | Kompo_, Tell me what you think of gpe-mini-browser. |
| 15:59.54 | Philippe_work | koen, which version of gpe-mini-browser is in the latest snapshots? The 0.15? |
| 15:59.55 | koen | Philippe_work: the h3600 ones doesn't have it installed by default, but that isn't too hard |
| 16:00.06 | koen | Philippe_work: the latest non-cvs in OE |
| 16:00.18 | krokas_ | How do i compile Familiar/GPE for a x86 box ? |
| 16:01.06 | Philippe_work | krokas_, If you have gentoo you can use all of reenoo' s stuff. Or you change your local.conf in your OE tree. |
| 16:01.19 | Philippe_work | I heard you have to look into the epia.conf for inspiration. |
| 16:02.44 | CoreDump|home | hmmm dialog segfaults |
| 16:11.51 | florian_kc | krokas_: Do you want to add it to some running system or do you want to create a complete filesystem with gpe for some device? |
| 16:12.25 | krokas_ | a complete filesystem |
| 16:12.31 | krokas_ | for a x86 notebook |
| 16:13.29 | florian_kc | krokas_: ah... then it is really a good idea to use oe and check the epia or netvista config files. |
| 16:14.37 | krokas_ | epia or netvista, ok, i will try once again |
| 16:18.03 | reenoo | krokas_: what exactly are you trying to do with that filesystem? you're working on the mono/pnet stuff, aren't you? |
| 16:18.17 | krokas_ | yes |
| 16:18.39 | krokas_ | I do have a Familiar/GPE box |
| 16:18.50 | krokas_ | I don't have a Familiar/GPE box |
| 16:19.40 | krokas_ | I want to make all I can on a native x86, on the point of libraries |
| 16:19.59 | krokas_ | Then i will find someone with a ARM Familiar/GPE |
| 16:20.36 | koen | didn't jamey have some spare 3600's? |
| 16:21.42 | reenoo | krokas_: from a mono point of view the only relevant libraries are gtk+, glib, glade, etc. nothing of that is GPE specific. on x86 you can just install packages that come with your distribution of choice |
| 16:22.28 | krokas_ | It is not that easy :( |
| 16:22.46 | krokas_ | There a lot of fixes specific to the ARM |
| 16:23.15 | krokas_ | And specific for a particular set of libraries |
| 16:23.39 | krokas_ | I have worked a lot on the ARM cluster |
| 16:23.52 | reenoo | define "fixes specific to the ARM" |
| 16:23.58 | krokas_ | A lot of things work there, thanks god |
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| 16:24.26 | krokas_ | Libffi for example |
| 16:24.50 | krokas_ | For example, |
| 16:25.01 | krokas_ | I'm working now on gtk# |
| 16:25.27 | krokas_ | What i have now works on my Debian x86 box |
| 16:25.40 | krokas_ | But on the ARM cluster, it doesn't |
| 16:25.50 | krokas_ | There is a "Segmentation Fault' |
| 16:26.20 | krokas_ | This maybe because of a bug in pnet, or because of outdated libraries on the cluster |
| 16:27.11 | reenoo | libffi is fairly low level. there's no point in trying to build a gpe image for x86 if you want to debug that. you'll have to do that on an ARM box |
| 16:27.19 | CoreDump|home | koen: how do I run evas_fb_test in 480x650? |
| 16:27.28 | koen | you don't |
| 16:27.38 | koen | it's always 320x240 |
| 16:27.45 | koen | that makes it a fair benchmark |
| 16:28.01 | CoreDump|home | ah ok :) |
| 16:28.09 | reenoo | krokas_: I'm just trying to prevent you from wasting your time with building a gpe-image for x86 |
| 16:28.11 | koen | 240x320 even |
| 16:28.52 | krokas_ | I would like to work on a ARM GPE/Familiar box, but i can't :( |
| 16:28.58 | krokas_ | I don't have one |
| 16:29.26 | krokas_ | The ARM cluster is closed |
| 16:29.32 | krokas_ | :( |
| 16:30.11 | reenoo | krokas_: yah. the timing is a bit unfortunate. have you talked to france about that? |
| 16:30.46 | krokas_ | yes |
| 16:31.00 | krokas_ | I don't have any reply from anyone :( |
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| 16:31.31 | reenoo | krokas_: who's your mentor? |
| 16:32.27 | krokas_ | It was France, then with this move it is Erik Hovland |
| 16:32.40 | koen | CoreDump|home: akita is 416MHz? |
| 16:33.01 | CoreDump|home | good question |
| 16:33.17 | CoreDump|home | koen: yes |
| 16:33.47 | koen | ok, added to my benchmark scorelist |
| 16:33.54 | CoreDump|home | :) |
| 16:34.02 | CoreDump|home | looked pretty smooth |
| 16:34.16 | koen | it's pretty nice |
| 16:34.42 | reenoo | krokas_: ah, and no response from Erik either? |
| 16:35.27 | reenoo | krokas_: the point is that I don't know what your or your mentor's plans are exactly. |
| 16:36.23 | krokas_ | the last email was from 28 july |
| 16:37.02 | krokas_ | We were talking about making a GPE distro on a x86 |
| 16:38.25 | krokas_ | He was working on the problem |
| 16:39.10 | florian_kc | :-/ |
| 16:39.47 | florian_kc | That doesn't sound good... |
| 16:40.09 | florian_kc | krokas_: did you try again? maybe the mail got lost somehow. |
| 16:40.55 | krokas_ | No. You are right, i shoud try |
| 16:41.05 | krokas_ | Maybe his email is lost :( |
| 16:46.22 | reenoo | koen, pb_: looks like there's a way to make metadata indexing work with decodebin as well. |
| 16:46.42 | koen | nice |
| 16:47.03 | reenoo | koen, pb_: I'll just have to try whether the code works with gstreamer 0.8 |
| 16:48.08 | reenoo | unfortunately I haven't even been able to figure out in which CVS repo the gst 0.9 code resides |
| 16:48.45 | reenoo | Philippe_work: have you had a chance to talk to that gst guy again? |
| 16:50.28 | Kompo_ | Philippe_work: btw. I think the reason why gtk-webcore doesn't show sometimes anything is that the page has utf-8 charset and meta content-type=utf-8, and the char conversion code somehow deosn't work.. |
| 16:50.49 | reenoo | heh |
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| 16:54.49 | Philippe_work | reenoo, no. sorry. Maybe you should ask them about 0.9 pre-releases on the #gstreamer channel. |
| 16:55.15 | Philippe_work | Kompo_, hmm actually never had the problem. (Don't know if I ever met an utf-8 page) |
| 16:55.21 | pb_ | reenoo: rock |
| 16:56.07 | Philippe_work | ~lart serial driver for not passing data to busybox. |
| 16:56.29 | Philippe_work | pff, that releaves some tension.... |
| 16:56.44 | koen | corgi-fb: EVAS BENCH: 0.313 |
| 16:56.58 | reenoo | pb_: it also detects non-audio files reliably as far as I understand the code |
| 16:57.29 | Kompo_ | Philippe_work: then it must have been robtaylor .. |
| 16:57.37 | pb_ | reenoo: even better |
| 16:57.38 | florian_kc | bbl |
| 16:57.44 | reenoo | Philippe_work: I'll check with #gstreamer sometime soon |
| 16:58.09 | Philippe_work | robtaylor__, also had threading issues I believe, but I could not reproduce them. (everything might be gcc-4.0 related. |
| 16:59.09 | robtaylor__ | Kompo_: ah, could be it |
| 17:00.42 | reenoo | heh |
| 17:00.46 | reenoo | http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/rhythmbox/player/rb-player-gst.c?r1=1.33&r2=1.34 |
| 17:00.56 | robtaylor__ | Kompo_: i'll take a good look at it in a week or two (after i've got the page its meant to be viewing for this project done ;)) there also seems to be issues with setTimeout. |
| 17:01.22 | robtaylor__ | that could be a gpe-minibrowser thing,tho |
| 17:02.10 | Philippe_work | Oh that brings me to an issue I noticed. I never get loading errors. Although the gpe-mini-browser checks for the error signal. |
| 17:02.32 | Philippe_work | Anyway I need to look for that timeout thing. |
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| 17:05.01 | reenoo | time to re-import the player and metadata backends from rhythmbox I guess |
| 17:05.29 | robtaylor__ | Philippe_work: ah, just investigated it a bit more, seems to be a suble javascript bug |
| 17:05.42 | robtaylor__ | joy |
| 17:06.22 | robtaylor__ | (i.e. i have two seemingly identical sitations, one where it works, one where it doesnt...) |
| 17:07.31 | reenoo | will also have to do some stuff for work :/ |
| 17:07.35 | reenoo | anyways |
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| 18:03.48 | reenoo | playback works |
| 18:03.51 | reenoo | :) |
| 18:05.15 | reenoo | without spider that is |
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| 18:56.40 | reenoo | spider-less metadata reading works as well |
| 18:56.50 | koen | cool |
| 18:56.56 | reenoo | :) |
| 18:57.48 | koen | does it still read the whole file? |
| 18:57.59 | reenoo | no |
| 18:58.04 | koen | even cooler |
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| 18:58.15 | koen | hey florian |
| 18:58.28 | florian | re |
| 18:58.29 | reenoo | yah. pretty spiffy |
| 18:59.10 | reenoo | the design of the metadata class sucks a bit though |
| 18:59.26 | reenoo | which is why I refactored the old code |
| 18:59.26 | koen | 20:56 < reenoo> spider-less metadata reading works as well |
| 18:59.53 | reenoo | but I'll try not to touch much this time so I can merge stuff in easily |
| 18:59.54 | florian | ah sounds promising... |
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| 19:02.28 | reenoo | yeah |
| 19:02.45 | reenoo | basically I'm using code from rhythmbox as a library now |
| 19:02.55 | krokas_ | Does this mean that i don't have enough space of my PC: | /home/krokas/Desktop/Dev/OE/tmp/work/glibc-intermediate-2.3.2+cvs20040726-r17/build-i386-linux/linuxthreads/ptcleanup.o: No space left on device |
| 19:03.00 | krokas_ | ? |
| 19:03.19 | koen | krokas_: correct |
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| 19:15.31 | koen | hey philippe_tv |
| 19:15.56 | philippe_tv | hey koen |
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| 19:41.31 | florian | I got an answer from the maintainer of libmimedir. |
| 19:42.18 | reenoo | heh. it's got a maintainer now? cool |
| 19:42.27 | koen | "eat dirt an die!" ? |
| 19:42.33 | koen | and* |
| 19:42.55 | krokas | A problem: Can i get my directory from the cluster somehow? |
| 19:45.02 | florian | well.. not really, it has some sort of maintainer which wasn't aware of the fact someone it using it. but there is no active development at the moment. |
| 19:45.13 | florian | krokas: your dir at hh.org? |
| 19:45.26 | koen | you'd have to ask france_ |
| 19:45.26 | krokas | nope. ipaq2 |
| 19:46.01 | krokas | I need guest@ipaq2.handhelds.org/home/guest/homes/krokas@aport.ru/pnet72b/ |
| 19:46.19 | koen | krokas: send france an email |
| 19:46.25 | krokas | okay |
| 19:46.45 | florian | iirc you can log in with your hh.org username and get your home directory. i'd suggest to copy that guest directory there. |
| 19:47.34 | krokas | Yes, this is true. hh is online |
| 19:47.50 | krokas | Yes, just the fine solution |
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| 20:02.15 | reenoo | hrm |
| 20:02.31 | reenoo | playbin uses gnomevfssource |
| 20:02.46 | reenoo | gnomevfssrc even |
| 20:03.06 | koen | heh |
| 20:05.31 | reenoo | guess I'll have to patch that out |
| 20:06.05 | reenoo | for file:// it could gracefully fall back to filesrc |
| 20:09.25 | reenoo | ~lart everyone and their dog for unnecessarily including gnomevfs as a dependency |
| 20:10.01 | koen | I usually get annoyed when a 'gnome' app doesn't do that |
| 20:10.07 | koen | but that's on my workstation |
| 20:10.39 | reenoo | gnomevfs is nice for filemanagers and stuff |
| 20:10.52 | reenoo | the rest of the world shouldn't need to care about it |
| 20:11.00 | koen | for anything that deals with files |
| 20:11.05 | koen | but make it optional |
| 20:12.14 | reenoo | well.. why would a *text editor* (gedit) need to be able to download files on its own? of course it doesn't. but it still uses gnomevfs and hangs regularly |
| 20:13.23 | reenoo | we used to have a working download manager and a working mime system in.. I don't know.. gnome 2.4 or something |
| 20:13.49 | reenoo | that's all broken now in 2.8 and 2.10 |
| 20:15.06 | koen | gnome 1.2 worked great |
| 20:15.23 | koen | I remember the time wheen gtk didn't support themes |
| 20:15.38 | koen | when* |
| 20:15.54 | reenoo | heh. that's a different story |
| 20:16.54 | reenoo | I wouldn't want to go back to gtk 1.2 |
| 20:17.14 | koen | indeed |
| 20:17.39 | reenoo | gnome as a whole has gone downhill after 2.6 though. maybe that's just my personal opinion but it's a bit frustrating |
| 20:18.08 | koen | I got really annoyed when galeon was scrapped |
| 20:18.31 | koen | and *really* annoyed when galeon started scrapping features |
| 20:19.01 | reenoo | the mime system, the attack of gnomecfs, spatial, the window focus stuff in metacity that doesn't work with sloppy focus at all, etc., etc. |
| 20:19.11 | reenoo | s/cfs/vfs/ |
| 20:19.34 | koen | the 'feature' that gnome-session gets disabled when switching WM.... |
| 20:20.16 | krokas | Looks like the hh is offline, too :( |
| 20:20.19 | koen | I can live with moving options to gconf-editor |
| 20:20.39 | koen | but deleting usefull features is plain annoying |
| 20:21.59 | koen | reenoo: project utopia makes up for a lot of mistakes |
| 20:22.07 | reenoo | well.. a lot of time and effort went into spatial nautilus. and correct me if I'm wrong... I don't think anybody uses it |
| 20:22.20 | koen | and for gnome-vfs: why does ssh:// still crash? |
| 20:22.32 | koen | reenoo: everybody turns it off |
| 20:22.56 | koen | jdub was pretty clear about spatial in his keynote |
| 20:23.43 | koen | "learn from our mistakes" -> "Spatial" |
| 20:24.02 | reenoo | I don't think that's going to happen |
| 20:24.32 | reenoo | unless they get rid of a bunch of "usability gurus" and apple cloners and move on to being creative again |
| 20:25.45 | reenoo | I'm sick of the "look, ma. I've cloned OS X feature XYZ." |
| 20:26.52 | koen | If only it would work like osX |
| 20:27.43 | koen | the "unmount via trash" bugzilla entry is pretty funny |
| 20:28.00 | reenoo | it cannot (apple would sue the hell out of the rest of the world). and shouldn't either. |
| 20:29.40 | reenoo | bleh. the gstreamer packages in debian are somewhat broken too |
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| 20:29.54 | reenoo | E: Unable to find a source package for gst-plugins |
| 20:31.22 | reenoo | nm. that's just the 0.6 version anyway |
| 20:38.35 | reenoo | ~herring me |
| 20:38.35 | ibot | ACTION whacks reenoo on the side of the head with a large red herring named alfred |
| 20:39.09 | reenoo | works without gnomevfssrc now |
| 20:39.33 | reenoo | I hadn't ported that part of my patch to the new rhythmbox code |
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| 23:03.09 | reenoo | 'night all |
| 23:03.18 | koen | 'night reenoo |
| 23:14.02 | *** topic/#gpe by florian -> The GPE Palmtop Environment - http://gpe.handhelds.org/ | GPE Wiki: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GPEProject |familiar snapshots: http://familiar.handhelds.org/snapshots/ | Development Manual (in progress): http://www.kernelconcepts.de/~fuchs/gpe/doc/devmanual/ |
| 23:15.32 | florian | good night |
| 23:15.57 | koen | 'night florian |
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| 23:16.37 | ai256 | any users of GPE here ? |
| 23:17.14 | koen | I think almost every on in this channel uses gpe :) |
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