| 00:07.49 | florian | good night |
| 00:08.50 | reenoo | 'night florian |
| 00:47.46 | reenoo | JustinP: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101393 |
| 00:51.04 | JustinP | reenoo: cool :-) |
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| 00:59.49 | reenoo | ibot botmail for florian ebuilds submitted. announcement sent |
| 01:09.10 | reenoo | 'night all |
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| 06:45.06 | jnc | la la la |
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| 07:52.06 | r0nny | hoi |
| 07:52.47 | r0nny | i got a problem with my gpe env - some of it'S applications keep to denny starting with a empty error messag |
| 07:53.29 | r0nny | it allso tells, the file ~/.gpe/categories is missing |
| 07:56.03 | XorA | morning |
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| 07:59.54 | r0nny | btw - can anyone fix, screen rotate does not rostate the keys needed to navigate in the menue's/terminal |
| 08:02.40 | pigeon | some xmodmap files are missing in the package for that... |
| 08:05.01 | r0nny | hmm |
| 08:06.38 | pigeon | it used to be there in fam 0.7, but disappeared in later version for some reasons. |
| 08:06.54 | pigeon | http://pigeond.net/~pigeon/familiar/bugs-20050407.txt |
| 08:07.12 | pigeon | if you're desperate to get it to work, create that two files mentioned. |
| 08:08.13 | r0nny | damn this thing |
| 08:08.28 | r0nny | there are 164 kb free space, but it tells the disk is full |
| 08:10.58 | r0nny | does anyone know, if the bootstrap version of familar got usb net, and dropbear ? |
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| 08:15.06 | koen | good morning all |
| 08:22.28 | XorA | yo koen |
| 08:26.18 | XorA | so what pdaXrom busting app you gonna port today :-) |
| 08:26.46 | koen | :) |
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| 08:34.58 | XorA | ~hail Philippe_work |
| 08:34.58 | ibot | ACTION bows down to Philippe_work and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
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| 08:39.41 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 08:40.22 | jsmanrique | morning! |
| 08:40.51 | koen | hey florian_kc & jsmanrique |
| 08:42.53 | Philippe_work | hey people |
| 08:43.00 | koen | hey Philippe_work |
| 08:43.09 | Philippe_work | XorA, what did I do to deserve this welcoming? |
| 08:44.26 | koen | RP: http://cvs.freedesktop.org/xserver/xserver/ChangeLog?rev=3.358&view=log |
| 08:44.39 | koen | RP: I can't wait for an iwmmx build :) |
| 08:49.02 | XorA | Philippe_work: mini-browser :-) |
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| 08:56.08 | florian_kc | pb_: good morning |
| 08:56.29 | pb_ | florian_kc: good morning! |
| 08:56.58 | Philippe_work | XorA, glad you like it that much :-) |
| 08:57.02 | Philippe_work | morning pb |
| 08:57.04 | koen | hey pb_ |
| 08:57.35 | XorA | Philippe_work: now I just need to find out how to GPRS over IRda |
| 09:00.13 | robtaylor | Philippe_work: how's it going with your roolbar? |
| 09:00.19 | robtaylor | toolbar, even =) |
| 09:05.32 | Philippe_work | robtaylor, I checked in some change that allows buttons with different sizes. It seems to help, but as I have no decent device (read as hx4700) to test it it might still not be exactly right |
| 09:05.42 | Philippe_work | Now I have started on bookmarks. |
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| 09:07.28 | buk | copying files over a PAN connection doesnt seem to work pretty good, thats possible? |
| 09:07.50 | buk | if I wget a ~14MB file, the md5 is always different, scp dies after some 3-5MB |
| 09:07.54 | buk | any workaround? |
| 09:07.56 | florian_kc | buk: wel... it isn't that fast on some iPAQ models. |
| 09:08.05 | buk | I dont care about fast |
| 09:08.14 | buk | but with wget the file is corrupted |
| 09:08.16 | buk | scp dies |
| 09:08.39 | florian_kc | buk: oh... that sounds bad... on which device does this happen? |
| 09:08.46 | buk | H3970 |
| 09:09.14 | buk | and it doesnt matter where I initiate the scp |
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| 09:09.40 | florian_kc | Hmm.. we have a h3970 somewhere here, i can ask for it later and try if i can reproduce it. |
| 09:09.52 | buk | *nod* |
| 09:10.17 | buk | mmmh |
| 09:12.06 | buk | florian_kc: does GPE has a protection against OPIE? |
| 09:12.15 | buk | opie-image-h3900-20050407140814.rootfs.jffs2 32% 4720KB 55.5KB/s 02:53 ETAdropped connection |
| 09:12.18 | buk | ;^) |
| 09:14.07 | pb_ | hi Philippe_work |
| 09:14.09 | pb_ | hi koen |
| 09:19.33 | buk | florian_kc: uhm, problem seems to be related to wrting to cf-card |
| 09:19.49 | buk | yeah, writing to /media/ram worked |
| 09:21.18 | florian_kc | yeah... we have a cool protection to defend gpe against opie, eh? ;-) |
| 09:21.57 | buk | works pretty good ;) |
| 09:22.12 | florian_kc | hrm.. |
| 09:22.34 | florian_kc | pb_: ever seen this before? |
| 09:22.46 | buk | I tried to copy it 15-20 times |
| 09:22.56 | buk | with wget and scp to cf, which didnt work |
| 09:23.12 | buk | ram worked for the first time |
| 09:25.05 | pb_ | florian_kc: no, that sounds very mysterious |
| 09:25.12 | buk | might be a speed problem? |
| 09:25.21 | buk | How fast is writing to CF? |
| 09:25.23 | robtaylor | Philippe_work: cool. any idea why it cant access a lot of sites just now? like google, or slashdot? |
| 09:25.37 | buk | scp transfered with ~50KB/s |
| 09:25.58 | florian_kc | hmm i don't think so, it should be able to manage this internally. |
| 09:31.59 | Philippe_work | robtaylor, no clue. I have been surfing around with the lastest version yesterday without any issues |
| 09:34.46 | robtaylor | Philippe_work: mm. that with latest gtkwebcore, D2005.04.29.23, or 0.5.0 ? |
| 09:35.16 | Philippe_work | with the fixed cvs-date from OE. |
| 09:35.42 | robtaylor | mm. odd |
| 09:35.53 | robtaylor | as thats exatly wht i'm using :/ |
| 09:36.01 | robtaylor | modulo the patches i've sent you |
| 09:36.22 | robtaylor | maybe we have another race condition |
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| 09:40.42 | Philippe_work | robtaylor, maybe the connection is bad? |
| 09:44.08 | robtaylor | Philippe_work: nope. evrything else is fine, thanks ;l) |
| 09:44.40 | Philippe_work | robtaylor, are you working on zaurus? |
| 09:44.51 | robtaylor | Philippe_work: no, running on a desktop |
| 09:45.09 | robtaylor | Philippe_work: plain old debian sid ;) |
| 09:46.26 | robtaylor | Philippe_work: which is probably why i'm seeing race conditions |
| 09:46.48 | Philippe_work | hmmm, I never had that kind of problems... (and the main development happens on my intel laptop -> test on Ipaq and Netbook -> release) |
| 09:47.13 | robtaylor | mm. odd |
| 09:47.45 | robtaylor | this is a 3000Mhz p4 |
| 09:48.01 | koen | ah, netburst |
| 09:48.10 | koen | so an ipaq would run circles around it ;) |
| 09:48.13 | robtaylor | ah, it also has hyperthreading ;) |
| 09:48.19 | Philippe_work | It might be because my laptop is 4 years old :-) |
| 09:48.41 | Philippe_work | It works fine on my Dual Xeon machine with HT and EMT64 too though |
| 09:48.42 | robtaylor | so might be seeing thread issues due to smp :/ |
| 09:48.48 | robtaylor | mm |
| 09:49.25 | Philippe_work | I would be amazed. But I'll try it again tonight. It has been a while. |
| 09:49.26 | robtaylor | v. odd |
| 09:50.02 | robtaylor | well i did have see a race comndition you hadn't seen (the pbar thing) |
| 09:50.14 | robtaylor | i dont understnad what the difference could be tho =) |
| 09:50.36 | robtaylor | Kompo: got any ideas? |
| 09:54.57 | Philippe_work | but that will only be for tonight |
| 09:55.17 | robtaylor | well, wortha try. i'll try and take a look when i have a chance ;) |
| 10:10.02 | jsmanrique | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:27.20 | koen | patch kdrive, gtk and glade into busybox |
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| 10:28.14 | Philippe_work | ~herring koen for having evil ideas |
| 10:28.15 | ibot | ACTION whacks koen for having evil ideas on the side of the head with a large red herring named alfred |
| 10:28.55 | koen | mmm.... herring..... |
| 10:29.07 | Philippe_work | :-) |
| 10:38.18 | florian_kc | *g* |
| 10:38.45 | florian_kc | ~lart localedef for taking up that much of memory |
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| 10:39.46 | Philippe_work | well it now has no memory at all anymore :-) |
| 10:41.25 | florian_kc | heh |
| 10:41.31 | florian_kc | hi PaxAnima |
| 10:41.36 | PaxAnima | hi, florian_kc |
| 10:47.47 | koen|food | hey PaxAnima |
| 11:02.57 | PaxAnima | hi, koen|food |
| 11:04.04 | PaxAnima | it's been a long time since I've touched the magical code in my magical apps ;) |
| 11:16.41 | Kompo | robtaylor: which race? the one from yesterday or? |
| 11:17.07 | PaxAnima | koen: :) |
| 11:18.25 | robtaylor | Kompo: well a) what was the reasons for the one yesterday, and could that be releated to my build failing to read most pages :/ |
| 11:21.17 | Kompo | robtaylor: There's some strange bug which prevents reading some usually small pages.. |
| 11:21.52 | Kompo | robtaylor: I try to get some time to fixabug this weekend.. |
| 11:24.18 | Philippe_work | Kompo, Anyway I will try gtk-webcore on my SMP machine tonight to be able to confirm if there is some threading bug |
| 11:25.33 | Philippe_work | I am also preparing rudimentary debian packages of Javascriptcore, nrcore and nrcit |
| 11:26.14 | florian_kc | Sounds very good! |
| 11:27.59 | Kompo | righto. Any opinnions should the curl dependency / possibility to use libcurl be dropped if libsoup works well? |
| 11:28.17 | koen | yeah |
| 11:28.24 | koen | libsoup supports gnutls |
| 11:28.37 | koen | which is a) smaller b) has a better license |
| 11:29.17 | florian_kc | I'll start to play with monotone and cvs today... i have access to a faster machine at university now :-) |
| 11:31.02 | Philippe_work | Kompo, yes. Please libsoup... |
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| 11:35.34 | reenoo | morning |
| 11:37.59 | florian_kc | reenoo: good morning! |
| 11:38.11 | reenoo | moin florian_kc |
| 11:39.33 | reenoo | florian_kc: oh dear. what happened? |
| 11:40.52 | florian_kc | pb_, reenoo: This localedef issue is really bad... i played around with it a little bit and searched the net for information. The debian project is aware the problem but ignores it. |
| 11:44.51 | reenoo | ah, right. that bug :( |
| 11:56.48 | koen | hey mickeyl |
| 11:56.51 | mickeyl | hiho |
| 11:58.16 | reenoo | moin mickeyl |
| 11:58.23 | koen | http://www.steinbauer.org/matthias/computer/linux/gpe-calender-770/first_run.png |
| 11:59.09 | mickeyl | nice |
| 11:59.16 | mickeyl | can't wait for the actual devices... |
| 11:59.43 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 12:00.50 | florian_kc | http://www.steinbauer.org/matthias/computer/linux/gpe-calender-770/second_run.png |
| 12:01.46 | reenoo | looks a bit corrupted on the left |
| 12:02.12 | reenoo | err.. nevermind |
| 12:02.53 | reenoo | florian_kc: is that the hildon gui or just their gtk theme? |
| 12:03.04 | koen | gui |
| 12:03.24 | florian_kc | reenoo: the look of the application? |
| 12:03.24 | koen | hildon uses costum widgets |
| 12:03.40 | reenoo | florian_kc: of gpe-calendar, yeah |
| 12:04.02 | florian_kc | reenoo: the top and left bar are applications, the rest is just the theme. |
| 12:05.03 | reenoo | nice |
| 12:05.19 | reenoo | we need a gpe theme (engine) :) |
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| 12:05.58 | koen | an adapted industrial? |
| 12:06.09 | koen | that's modern looking and fast |
| 12:06.19 | koen | clearlooks just looks modern...... |
| 12:06.34 | koen | s ... l ... o ... w ... |
| 12:06.44 | reenoo | clearlooks is over the top. eye candy wise |
| 12:07.14 | reenoo | somewhere between industrial and RH's bluecurve I'd say |
| 12:07.55 | koen | yeah |
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| 12:16.27 | koen | hey jamey |
| 12:16.37 | koen | XorA: was your quest succesfull? |
| 12:17.50 | jamey | hi koen |
| 12:17.57 | XorA | koen: ham roll :-) |
| 12:18.09 | reenoo | hi jamey |
| 12:18.21 | jamey | hi reenoo |
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| 12:29.19 | florian_kc | good :-) |
| 12:29.29 | florian_kc | hi jamey |
| 12:30.11 | florian_kc | lolita__: Speak lound as soon as you send the mail, jamey is our man for the account. |
| 12:33.20 | reenoo | koen: looking at the tinderbox status page.. I'm a bit puzzled. how do I get to the actual logs to check why a build failed? |
| 12:34.39 | reenoo | koen: ("h3900 familiar opie gpe" is currently listed as "build failed". I'd like to find out why) |
| 12:34.45 | lolita__ | e-mail to jamey is on the way! |
| 12:35.50 | koen | reenoo: click 'L' |
| 12:36.16 | jamey | lolita__: I'll watch for it |
| 12:37.01 | reenoo | koen: ok. when I click "full log". I get a more or less empty pages. no log anyway |
| 12:37.08 | koen | yeah |
| 12:37.29 | reenoo | heh |
| 12:37.30 | koen | I stopped the build to fix some issues |
| 12:38.08 | reenoo | and it doesn't archive the previous log? |
| 12:38.15 | lolita__ | what's the join adress for the mailinglist? |
| 12:38.32 | jamey | http://handhelds.org/mailman/listinfo/<listname> |
| 12:38.38 | lolita__ | thx |
| 12:38.43 | koen | reenoo: you'll have to click on the 'L' in the previous build |
| 12:38.45 | jamey | or <listname>-request@handhelds.org via email |
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| 12:41.11 | lolita__ | ... i'm in ... |
| 12:42.00 | florian_kc | very good |
| 12:42.15 | reenoo | koen: hmm. ok |
| 12:43.00 | pb_ | florian_kc: oh dear |
| 12:44.37 | florian_kc | pb_: We need to generate these files native, right? Some workaround would be to do so and provide binary packages with this data, but that would be more a bad hack than a solution :-( |
| 12:46.29 | koen | i18n, a11y, f5n...... |
| 12:47.13 | robtaylor | Kompo: ahh, interesting :) |
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| 12:54.09 | pb_ | florian_kc: yeah |
| 13:03.03 | jamey | florian_kc, lolita__ : I'm suppsed to create an account for steima (Matthias Steinbauer) and I assume add to gpe? |
| 13:03.25 | lolita__ | jep |
| 13:06.56 | lolita__ | florian_kc ... i could kick myself in my ass ... |
| 13:07.11 | lolita__ | if i'd do some reading sometimes .... my life woudl be happier ... |
| 13:07.28 | lolita__ | when fetching the gpe source from cvs i had this page open ... |
| 13:07.37 | lolita__ | http://gpe.handhelds.org/cvs.phtml |
| 13:07.58 | lolita__ | and wondered where to get libmimedir sources ... although there is a link to the sources ;) |
| 13:08.17 | lolita__ | but getting them from gnome cvs was fun anyway ;) |
| 13:10.06 | florian_kc | eh |
| 13:10.11 | florian_kc | jamey: yes |
| 13:10.35 | florian_kc | lolita__: heh |
| 13:11.06 | jamey | lolita__: account created, please give it a try |
| 13:11.15 | lolita__ | jop |
| 13:13.32 | reenoo | I've updated the gentoo ebuilds for gpe btw (if anyone cares) |
| 13:14.58 | jamey | reenoo: well done! |
| 13:15.08 | florian_kc | reenoo: lolita__ might care :-) |
| 13:15.33 | lolita__ | haha ;) |
| 13:16.21 | reenoo | lolita__: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101393 |
| 13:17.02 | reenoo | jamey: :) |
| 13:18.40 | lolita__ | jamey its working like a charm thx |
| 13:19.18 | lolita__ | my discs are crashing from now and then ;) |
| 13:19.58 | lolita__ | ahm ... |
| 13:20.13 | lolita__ | i'm doing my 2. checout of the gpe tree now |
| 13:20.20 | reenoo | Philippe_work: hehe. very good. |
| 13:20.55 | lolita__ | ... but can i just adjust CVS root and update my old tree in scratchbox ? |
| 13:21.30 | jamey | it is possible, but you have to edit CVS/Root in every directory |
| 13:21.36 | jamey | but can be done with a good script |
| 13:22.54 | reenoo | for i in `find -name Root | grep CVS`; do echo "<new root>" > $i; done |
| 13:23.21 | reenoo | something like that |
| 13:23.32 | lolita__ | ... ok no doesn't matter ... i delete it and check it out once again ... |
| 13:23.42 | jamey | bbiab |
| 13:24.01 | lolita__ | ... i had to do some path adjustments ... because my scratchbox is not on my root partition ... anyways ... |
| 13:24.20 | lolita__ | i only need gpe-calendar to get compiling again |
| 13:24.35 | lolita__ | ... there were some gpe libs where the gtk-doc.make file was missing ... |
| 13:28.39 | reenoo | bleh |
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| 13:28.55 | XorA | is there any gpe ppp application? |
| 13:28.55 | reenoo | looks like google.com is redirecting me to google.de now |
| 13:29.39 | reenoo | XorA: gkdial I think. florian_kc? |
| 13:30.14 | XorA | reenoo: its in OE, Ill give it a spin cheers |
| 13:59.06 | florian_kc | re |
| 14:00.06 | florian_kc | lolita__: uh... which one, gtk-doc is my task imho. |
| 14:00.32 | lolita__ | damn ... i'll have a look |
| 14:00.34 | florian_kc | reenoo, XorA: yes... |
| 14:02.40 | lolita__ | .... damn .. i made hard links ... |
| 14:03.42 | lolita__ | but i think in libeventdb/doc i linked gtk-doc.make |
| 14:06.05 | lolita__ | ahm .. im putting this on my todo list ... and compare my (changed) tree which a new checked out one ... |
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| 14:10.07 | florian_kc | lolita__: ok |
| 14:14.27 | lolita__ | my tooth are all sticky now im annoyed ;) |
| 14:16.44 | XorA | koen: flogging a dead horse? |
| 14:17.08 | koen | heh |
| 14:17.39 | koen | no, I want to be able to say "GPE has 5 browser you can choose from" |
| 14:17.47 | koen | browsers* |
| 14:17.51 | florian_kc | hehe |
| 14:18.39 | koen | gpe-mini-browser, osb-browser, minimo, dillo, dillo2, firefox |
| 14:18.43 | rmrfchik | has GPE a good patience/solitare game? |
| 14:19.27 | XorA | koen: roll back to a fixed cvsdate, and if you really lucky guess one where minimo actually works after compile |
| 14:19.59 | reenoo | hehe |
| 14:20.17 | koen | heh |
| 14:20.18 | reenoo | that's what the minimo code looked like last time I checked, yeah. |
| 14:20.31 | koen | where mimimo compiles *and* our patches apply |
| 14:20.41 | Philippe_work | well of course it is broken. They work for WinCE devices now :-) |
| 14:23.36 | reenoo | and collaps again |
| 14:23.38 | reenoo | heh |
| 14:24.49 | XorA | hmm, network shield doesnt use gpe-su |
| 14:31.40 | koen | crap |
| 14:31.49 | koen | gnome-office encompasses gnome-db too |
| 14:32.14 | koen | now I can't claim I have g-o on my pda anymore |
| 14:35.02 | XorA | whats gnome-db? |
| 14:35.29 | koen | phpmyadmin for gnome |
| 14:35.40 | koen | fancy gui for db management |
| 14:35.58 | koen | http://www.gnome-db.org/ |
| 14:37.18 | florian_kc | yeah... that looks pretty cool |
| 14:37.29 | XorA | koen: well your Mr Gnome Porter :-) |
| 14:37.42 | XorA | does pdaXrom have KOffice yet? |
| 14:37.50 | koen | no idea |
| 14:38.04 | koen | but gnomeoffice is about as large as kdelibs+qt |
| 14:38.21 | koen | those people should consider NOT putting everything on one lib |
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| 15:12.21 | reenoo | XorA: add more apps to OE |
| 15:12.49 | XorA | reenoo: Ill have to |
| 15:16.20 | lolita__ | dont use bad words like gprs |
| 15:16.33 | lolita__ | i reminds me of my mobile phone bills |
| 15:17.04 | XorA | koen: Ive been tempted to LAMP my Z |
| 15:18.01 | XorA | koen: I just want a thing I can show off at DNScon |
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| 15:30.29 | ||cw | any effort going to port OE to the palm idrive? |
| 15:31.12 | ||cw | i mean life drive |
| 15:31.21 | XorA | ||cw: bad way to ask that question, it should be, any plans to add palm idrive machine.conf to OE |
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| 15:32.09 | ||cw | i've no idea on it's specs, given that it's palm i wouldn't suprize it needing kernel porting |
| 15:32.23 | ||cw | oh it's an xscale |
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| 16:25.44 | koen | nice, dougt fixed the minimo build problem |
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| 16:38.00 | koen | hey mallum |
| 16:44.12 | mallum | hey koen |
| 16:51.50 | _law_ | how can i debug the xserver on my Z? |
| 16:52.03 | _law_ | do see why suspend doesnt work correctly |
| 16:52.03 | koen | with gdb I guess |
| 16:52.27 | _law_ | isnīt installed :-( |
| 16:52.37 | _law_ | is there no log file? |
| 16:53.15 | _law_ | after every suspend gpe falls back do gpe-login |
| 16:54.28 | pH5 | _law_: you should install gdb and check if/where it segfaults. |
| 16:54.39 | pH5 | _law_: or you could start the xserver from the console by hand |
| 16:54.55 | _law_ | pH5 how can i do this? |
| 16:57.43 | pH5 | _law_: do you mean installing gdb, using gdb or using the console? |
| 16:57.56 | _law_ | starting X via console |
| 16:58.54 | _law_ | gdb is installed |
| 16:59.06 | pH5 | look at /etc/X11/Xserver |
| 16:59.26 | pH5 | stop gpe-dm and start Xfbdev with the right parameters, I guess |
| 17:00.20 | florian_kc | bbl |
| 17:00.45 | koen | pH5: what is that input thing in your screenshots? |
| 17:01.09 | pH5 | koen: I've started to write a gpe-frontend to kanjipad |
| 17:01.17 | koen | cool |
| 17:01.45 | lolita__ | i love kanji ... i'm learning japanese! |
| 17:02.15 | koen | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.19923.png |
| 17:02.28 | pH5 | lolita__: me too :) |
| 17:02.57 | lolita__ | oh my god! |
| 17:03.04 | lolita__ | i need tat on maemo ... |
| 17:03.06 | pH5 | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.6270.png |
| 17:03.11 | pH5 | that's how it looks at the moment |
| 17:03.23 | lolita__ | nihon and gaku ... |
| 17:03.24 | pH5 | i just need to find a backend for hira/kata recognition :( |
| 17:03.33 | lolita__ | seems we are on quite the same level |
| 17:04.04 | koen | pH5: there is a gtk frontend for hira in OE iirc |
| 17:04.21 | _law_ | how can i start gpe-dm with gdb? |
| 17:04.25 | pH5 | really? what's its name? |
| 17:04.36 | pH5 | _law_: you want to start Xfbdev with gdb |
| 17:06.35 | _law_ | if i start Xfbdev and suspend /wakeup my Z X is dead |
| 17:07.26 | pH5 | _law_: i just started gdb Xfbdev on the console, suspended, resumed and then saw the segfault |
| 17:08.50 | _law_ | http://pastebin.com/330086 <-- gdb Xfbdev dont work :-( |
| 17:09.10 | koen | pH5: I don't recall the name, but you could also look at im-ja |
| 17:10.18 | koen | _law_: looks ok to me, just type 'run' |
| 17:11.19 | _law_ | koen that works but how can i switch back to console if X hangs? |
| 17:11.51 | koen | no idea |
| 17:12.53 | pH5 | _law_: can't you ssh into it or connect via serial cable? |
| 17:13.24 | _law_ | if i ssh und suspend to it wlan is also doen :-( |
| 17:13.30 | _law_ | s/doen/down |
| 17:14.04 | JustinP | switch to VT1 (with gdb running) before suspending perhaps? |
| 17:14.52 | _law_ | JustinP: how can i switch i dont know the keys |
| 17:16.20 | JustinP | ssh in and chvt 1 |
| 17:17.11 | _law_ | http://pastebin.com/330094 |
| 17:17.46 | JustinP | I get those too |
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| 18:33.34 | koen | hey florian_ |
| 18:34.25 | koen | florian_: how hard would it be for gpe-login to write the user info to the 'my vcard' on first boot? |
| 18:35.25 | florian_ | koen: hmm a little bit nasty because that tool lacks an api for this, but it should be posible some time. |
| 18:36.22 | koen | OSX uses the 'my vcard' for *everything* |
| 18:37.23 | koen | I got reminded of that by http://www.icefox.net/articles/kdeosx.php |
| 18:37.33 | florian_ | Here we have two sources of data, but i guess we can simply add a switch to gpe-contacts to grab the data from /etc/passwd as we have two sourcesfor this information. |
| 18:38.01 | florian_ | oh what a sentence |
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| 19:47.06 | koen|tv | gpe-contacts added to freshmeat.net |
| 19:48.49 | florian_ | oh cool |
| 19:49.24 | koen|tv | I think pb_ needs to OK it, as I but him down as project owner (http://gpe.handhelds.org/projects/GPE-address.shtml) |
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| 20:16.48 | koen|tv | it's in: http://freshmeat.net/projects/gpe-contacts/ |
| 20:18.41 | philippe_tv | koen : why are you putting things on freshmeat? |
| 20:19.19 | koen|tv | philippe_tv: to get more attention for GPE |
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| 20:46.52 | reenoo | koen|tv: heh. poke jdub to add some gpe dev's blog to p.g.o and you'll get a _lot_ of attention |
| 20:48.44 | koen|tv | yeah |
| 20:49.42 | reenoo | http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/monotone-devel/2005-05/msg00099.html |
| 20:49.51 | reenoo | interesting read |
| 20:50.45 | koen|tv | that's teh infamous '3 way merges suck' mail? |
| 20:51.12 | reenoo | no |
| 20:51.40 | reenoo | more of a 'merges can't be done automatically in all cases' |
| 20:52.14 | koen|tv | ah, it's the response to the mail I was getting at |
| 20:52.14 | reenoo | and instead of blowing up one should assist the user in finding the intended common ancestor |
| 20:52.25 | koen|tv | indeed |
| 20:52.53 | reenoo | the darcs reference is interesting as well |
| 20:53.37 | reenoo | "In such a system, a version is defined as the sum of a set of deltas" |
| 20:53.52 | reenoo | that's how bitkeeper works |
| 20:54.05 | reenoo | which did a pretty good job for OE |
| 20:54.32 | reenoo | I dislike the idea of relying on GHC though, which is why I didn't propose darcs |
| 20:54.34 | jnc | koen|tv: i am frustrated with the keymap currently in OZ for the zaurus c3000 hardware, i am making a new one :) |
| 20:54.42 | koen|tv | :) |
| 20:54.47 | koen|tv | reenoo: ghc? |
| 20:55.08 | reenoo | koen|tv: glasgow haskell compiler |
| 20:55.20 | reenoo | darcs is written in haskell |
| 20:56.41 | reenoo | which is a good thing in general but ghc is the weak link |
| 20:56.54 | reenoo | portability/maintainability wise |
| 21:03.15 | reenoo | don't get me wrong though.. ghc is an impressive piece of software considering it's pretty much a two person project (interestingly funded by microsoft) |
| 21:04.03 | reenoo | but we have enough trouble supporting solaris/sparc and linux/x86 at work |
| 21:04.55 | reenoo | "work" being a research group of highly skilled haskell people |
| 21:05.03 | koen|tv | I see |
| 21:05.18 | koen|tv | I think the nslu2 people will be insistant on armeb support |
| 21:05.45 | reenoo | yah, there's no arm port (not to speak of armeb) |
| 21:05.57 | koen|tv | OE distros are now 'self hosting' |
| 21:06.06 | reenoo | hehe |
| 21:06.50 | reenoo | gah |
| 21:06.57 | reenoo | ~bitchslap lilo |
| 21:06.57 | ibot | ACTION beats the sh*t out of lilo |
| 21:07.45 | reenoo | heh. good plan |
| 21:11.39 | reenoo | oh, mallum is around |
| 21:11.43 | reenoo | mallum: hi |
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| 21:13.14 | mimecar | hi |
| 21:15.10 | reenoo | pH5: nice job. that kanji input method looks spiffy :) |
| 21:15.52 | koen|tv | pH5: we have some CJK users on gpe@handhelds.org, maybe they have some suggestions for backends |
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| 21:18.05 | flo_nw | here we go... |
| 21:18.21 | reenoo | hi flo_nw |
| 21:18.26 | koen|tv | hey flo_nw |
| 21:18.49 | pH5 | renoo, koen|tv: thanks |
| 21:18.50 | koen|tv | flo_nw: gconf-dbus doesn't really work for me, every apps complains that it can't store info, is that expected? |
| 21:19.24 | flo_nw | koen|tv: hmm no, wait a minute |
| 21:22.06 | koen|tv | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/drupal/?q=ipkgfind |
| 21:22.29 | koen|tv | Now I just need to find a way to associate it with .bb files so you can view that too |
| 21:22.29 | flo_nw | koen|tv: I just configured an account in gaim which should use gconf-dbus and it works and didn|t complain |
| 21:22.52 | koen|tv | try evince or gnome-games |
| 21:23.16 | flo_nw | hrm... does gaim wor for you_ |
| 21:23.29 | koen|tv | gaim seems to work |
| 21:23.38 | koen|tv | but I have a .gaim/ |
| 21:23.39 | flo_nw | hrmm... a spanish keyboard with us layout sucks. |
| 21:23.51 | mallum | reenoo: hey whays up |
| 21:24.34 | reenoo | mallum: seen my message to gpe@? it is possible to package gpe with the info from OE :) |
| 21:24.47 | reenoo | mallum: for other distros that is |
| 21:25.12 | koen|tv | and now mallum will say 'after autotooling the core' |
| 21:26.58 | mallum | ;) |
| 21:27.00 | reenoo | koen|tv: fwiw, the eclass handles both old makefile based and the new autotools based stuff |
| 21:27.54 | koen|tv | mallum: the scandaq thing looks pretty nice |
| 21:28.19 | reenoo | it did simplify modifying gpe-contacts to work with or without dbus though |
| 21:28.38 | mallum | koen|ewi: nice for 5MB |
| 21:28.43 | mallum | reenoo: http://amd.store20.com/gentoo-matchbox/ |
| 21:28.48 | florian_ | koen|tv: let me try to find out what is wrong with gpe-mini-browser in this x86 image. |
| 21:29.29 | philippe_tv | well florian_ , let me know. I'll assist you if I can |
| 21:30.10 | reenoo | mallum: heh. I've already written ebuilds for matchbox |
| 21:30.24 | florian_ | philippe_tv: imho one of the libraries is not correctly linked, it dies _very_ fast. i'll build debug packages now first |
| 21:31.17 | philippe_tv | florian_ : ok |
| 21:31.20 | koen|tv | mallum: https://wiisard.org/Zope/wiisard use matchbox + gpe too |
| 21:32.11 | reenoo | mallum: it always sucks when people don't submit stuff to gentoo bugzilla |
| 21:35.58 | flo_nw | is latest GtkWebcore cvs still not buildable? |
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| 21:36.45 | philippe_tv | no clue. Last time I tried not. I used the fixed cvs date from OE back then |
| 21:37.02 | flo_nw | hmm okaz |
| 21:37.30 | philippe_tv | I hope Kompo submits his patches soon. |
| 21:37.51 | florian_ | that would rock |
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| 21:38.46 | mimecar | good night |
| 21:41.26 | koen|tv | ;night mimecar |
| 21:41.38 | florian_ | mimecar: good night |
| 21:41.51 | mimecar | today is friday :) |
| 21:42.05 | mimecar | I need holidays |
| 21:44.53 | mimecar | I'm discovering new applications for gpe every day :) |
| 21:45.43 | reenoo | mallum: do you know that guy? could you poke him to submit that stuff? |
| 21:48.37 | jnc | koen|tv: any idea how i might check the keystates of Numlock from console? |
| 21:48.57 | jnc | i want to know if Numlock state is set or unset |
| 21:52.06 | koen|tv | no idea |
| 21:55.03 | reenoo | mallum: nevermind. I guess I can just as well finish off what I have here. he got most of the sections all wrong anyway etc. (the idea is to get the gentoo people to accept it after all...) |
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| 21:56.59 | mimecar_ | jnc: it's possible numlock state can be found on /proc folder |
| 21:58.55 | florian_ | What does gdb need if it says: "Unable to find dynamic linker breakpoint function"? |
| 21:59.25 | koen|tv | some coffee and a cookie |
| 21:59.25 | mimecar_ | no idea florian_ |
| 22:00.46 | reenoo | florian_: sorry, I've had that before but fail to remember how to fix that now :/ |
| 22:01.10 | jnc | mimecar_: i'm not seeing anything there |
| 22:03.55 | mimecar_ | I'm searching... |
| 22:04.09 | mimecar_ | but I only find kernel funcions currently |
| 22:05.15 | jnc | answer is setleds |
| 22:05.16 | jnc | :) |
| 22:05.44 | jnc | woohoo |
| 22:05.47 | mimecar_ | I don't program yet |
| 22:06.02 | mimecar_ | but I'm playing with bash scripts and pythn ;) |
| 22:06.47 | florian_ | hmm... if everything ldd find for the webcore libs is in staging but libgcc_s and ld-linux are in /lib that loos like a bug right? |
| 22:07.50 | koen | did it link x86 stuff to arm? |
| 22:08.04 | koen | ah, wait netvista |
| 22:09.05 | florian_ | koen: right |
| 22:09.30 | koen | it sounds like a bug either way |
| 22:10.59 | florian_ | hrm... looks like a bug in ldd, same for atk which seems to work. |
| 22:11.29 | philippe_tv | florian_ : indeed that is strange. |
| 22:12.51 | philippe_tv | finally I have x86 debian packages for gtk-webcore. (I still need to test them, tune the deps and make sure that they actually work) |
| 22:13.29 | reenoo | tune the deps? doesn't shlibdeps take care of that? |
| 22:14.06 | philippe_tv | reenoo indeed, but not for the build-deps |
| 22:14.19 | reenoo | ah, right. buiild-depends |
| 22:18.26 | koen | http://shiyee.dk/gpe-gaim-scrs/ |
| 22:18.55 | koen | and http://handhelds.org/hypermail/gpe/current/4445.html |
| 22:19.26 | florian_ | looks like abiword suffers from the same issue, strace shows both die after the same syscall... |
| 22:21.39 | florian_ | wow! very good! |
| 22:23.15 | philippe_tv | florian_ : What is so good? |
| 22:25.22 | philippe_tv | koen : nice gaim port. |
| 22:28.09 | florian_ | philippe_tv: the gaim port |
| 22:32.10 | jnc | ooooh yeah |
| 22:32.26 | jnc | florian_: i'm porting every single 104key function to the zaurus linux console keymap |
| 22:32.32 | jnc | it sort of makes sense, too |
| 22:32.35 | jnc | after i stare at it long enough |
| 22:32.53 | JustinP | anyone know what would enable Xutf8TextPropertyToTextList in xlib? |
| 22:33.08 | jnc | so far i'm just missing PrntScreen, Insert, and Pause Break |
| 22:33.20 | jnc | i even have the keypad in there |
| 22:33.25 | florian_ | jnc: oh well.. sounds like a nasty job, but the result mitght be very useful. |
| 22:33.34 | jnc | =) |
| 22:33.41 | jnc | one giant haaaack |
| 22:33.48 | koen | does anybody have any feature requests for ipkgfind? |
| 22:34.09 | jnc | yea if i knew what ipkgfind was *looks sad* |
| 22:34.18 | florian_ | automatic update via cron! |
| 22:34.33 | koen | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/drupal/?q=ipkgfind&pnm=libc6 or http://ipkgfind.handhelds.org/ |
| 22:34.41 | koen | florian_: it already has that :) |
| 22:35.10 | koen | the update script is located in the the 'cronjob' subdir |
| 22:35.19 | jnc | florian_: so far n m and o p are the only keys without an AltGr mapping |
| 22:35.24 | jnc | hmm, what to do |
| 22:36.41 | koen | | checking for /proc/self/maps... configure: error: cannot check for file existence when cross compiling |
| 22:36.46 | koen | ~stab abiword 2.2.9 |
| 22:36.46 | ibot | ACTION runs at abiword 2.2.9 with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 22:36.59 | florian_ | koen: cool |
| 22:37.50 | florian_ | koen: oh dear... that check doesn't look clever. |
| 22:38.19 | koen | I'll see if I can change it into an AC_WARN |
| 22:38.24 | koen | or patch it out |
| 22:38.29 | koen | *tomorrow* |
| 22:38.33 | koen | 'night all |
| 22:38.39 | florian_ | koen: good night |
| 22:39.22 | philippe_tv | night koen |
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| 22:55.28 | pH5 | good night |
| 23:17.37 | reenoo | 'night all |
| 23:17.43 | philippe_tv | night reenoo |
