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| 04:25.15 | sageLin | hi |
| 04:27.06 | sageLin | There is who alive? |
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| 07:38.48 | molivier | morning |
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| 07:59.50 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 08:05.30 | XorA | morning |
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| 08:43.39 | florian_kc | morning XorA, morning Philippe_work |
| 08:45.09 | Philippe_work | morning florian_kc , and all the rest |
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| 08:51.42 | koen | good morning all |
| 08:52.42 | florian_kc | koen: good morning |
| 08:54.49 | koen | hey florian_kc |
| 09:01.08 | florian_kc | ibot: seen luc? |
| 09:01.08 | ibot | luc <~luc@cs78246193.pp.htv.fi> was last seen on IRC in channel #gpe, 72d 13h 35m 1s ago, saying: 'hey florian'. |
| 09:01.17 | florian_kc | hrm.. |
| 09:01.20 | koen | ~seen luc_ |
| 09:01.20 | ibot | luc_ <~luc@cs78246193.pp.htv.fi> was last seen on IRC in channel #gpe, 63d 10h 38m 21s ago, saying: 'good night all.'. |
| 09:11.11 | florian_kc | Not really better.... |
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| 09:20.48 | lardman | morning all |
| 09:21.18 | Philippe_work | morning lardman |
| 09:21.37 | lardman | morning Philippe_work |
| 09:22.58 | lardman | I've had a build error with gpe-image, task-bootstrap has a dep on kernel-module-ppp-generic & kernel-module-ppp-async, and gpe-task-base has a dep on hotplug, none of which seem to have been built/need to be built/are available from the 2.6.13 kernel |
| 09:23.32 | lardman | before I stick in a bug about this, and hack my meta files to make it build, has anyone seen this, and have I done something wrong? |
| 09:24.17 | XorA | lardman: I saw that last night, but went to bed without investigating |
| 09:24.44 | lardman | hi XorA |
| 09:25.12 | lardman | Has hotplug been replaced now? I seem to remember reading something about that (though I've had my head down for a while so I may have got that wrong) |
| 09:26.19 | XorA | lardman: no idea, Ive been too busy to keep up with IRC last couple of days |
| 09:26.52 | lardman | XorA: Okay, now worries, I'll have another trawl through the ml and see if I can find out, thanks |
| 09:26.58 | lardman | s/now/no |
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| 10:26.58 | koen | XorA: http://handhelds.org/scap/land.6043.png |
| 10:28.35 | XorA | koen: wooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
| 10:29.36 | koen | that's with manually touching up bitbake gnumeric-1.3.1 |
| 10:29.48 | XorA | koen: cool |
| 10:33.49 | florian_kc | hmm... Sylpheed, gpe-mini-browser, Abiword, Gnumeric... that might be a good team :-) |
| 10:33.59 | florian_kc | For a mobile office... |
| 10:34.17 | XorA | florian_kc: the only one I miss from that on my Z is GNumeric |
| 10:35.44 | Philippe_work | s/to to/to do/ |
| 10:36.50 | florian_kc | Philippe_work: I can help with the bookmarks in a free minute, that should be a single select to the badabase. |
| 10:36.59 | florian_kc | oh well |
| 10:37.04 | florian_kc | database! |
| 10:37.54 | XorA | sound then just port gpe to amd64 and Id have perfect desktop :-) |
| 10:38.22 | florian_kc | That should be pretty easy ;-) |
| 10:38.40 | Philippe_work | florian_kc, Ok :-) Well tonight will be the gtk-webcore and gpe-mini-browser maemo / debian packaging, and make the hybrid reload/stop button |
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| 10:39.59 | Philippe_work | BTW. Anybody knows how I can make a textfield react to an enter keypress? |
| 10:47.18 | koen | XorA: http://handhelds.org/scap/land.6450.png |
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| 10:48.14 | koen | that's evince showing mickeyl's OE talk at fosdem |
| 10:48.50 | florian_kc | Philippe_work: cool |
| 10:49.40 | florian_kc | Philippe_work: you could make a new release then, then we had one we could use with oe. |
| 10:50.32 | florian_kc | XorA: I'l love to see this for the old Netvista thinclients we have here. |
| 10:50.41 | florian_kc | ho mallum |
| 10:50.53 | Philippe_work | aha, gtk_entry_set_activates_default () is what I need. (I hope) |
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| 10:51.04 | koen | hey mallum |
| 10:51.13 | ade|desk | morning folks |
| 10:51.24 | Philippe_work | florian_kc, you mean a hildon-enabled bb + hildon package for maemo |
| 10:52.25 | florian_kc | Philippe_work: right... and a new bb for gpe. |
| 10:52.28 | florian_kc | hi ade|desk |
| 10:53.47 | Philippe_work | well 0.14 bb is just out (a week old I think). (partly thanks to koen) But well nothing hinders a 0.15 release. |
| 10:57.39 | koen | evince fullscreen: http://handhelds.org/scap/land.7128.png normal mode: http://handhelds.org/scap/land.6812.png |
| 10:57.50 | koen | ~lart freetype for crashing on vera fonts |
| 10:58.23 | koen | ~evince for still not displaying https://www.linux-magazine.com/issue/32/G_Palmtop_Environment.pdf |
| 10:59.07 | mallum | hey koen, florian_kc |
| 10:59.14 | XorA | koen: at least you are making progress |
| 11:09.50 | koen | evince's scaling is slooooooooow, but scrolling is fast enough |
| 11:12.06 | florian_kc | ~lart bitbake |
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| 11:47.16 | koen | hey jsmanrique |
| 11:50.13 | jsmanrique | hi koen |
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| 12:45.33 | koen | ok, whohey jamey |
| 12:45.38 | koen | ehm |
| 12:45.43 | koen | hey jamey |
| 12:47.30 | jamey | hi koen |
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| 13:19.06 | koen | sajar: congrats |
| 13:19.30 | florian_kc | sajar: very good! |
| 13:19.55 | sajar | It's been up 10 mins now ;-) |
| 13:20.45 | sajar | Philippe_work: Don't think so.. maybe just less annoyed at me ;-) |
| 13:20.55 | Philippe_work | :-) |
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| 13:29.53 | koen | florian_kc: does calendar store appointments in GMT? |
| 13:30.00 | koen | hey fng_sma |
| 13:30.06 | florian_kc | hi fng_sma |
| 13:30.15 | florian_kc | koen: i don't know offhand |
| 13:30.39 | koen | ok |
| 13:30.56 | koen | I was wondering how calendar handles timezone changes |
| 13:32.32 | koen | ~seen herzi |
| 13:32.34 | ibot | herzi <~herzi@d002088.adsl.hansenet.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #gpe, 51d 23h 29m 52s ago, saying: 'when will the nokia 770 developer devices become available? at the same time when the devices get publicly available?'. |
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| 13:34.44 | florian_kc | tsts |
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| 13:49.37 | sajar | awesome. ipkg install minimo and it just works even with the proxy setup.. |
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| 13:50.52 | florian_kc | hey pb_ |
| 13:53.05 | pb_ | florian_kc: good morning |
| 13:53.25 | pb_ | or afternoon, even |
| 13:54.43 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 14:01.04 | fng_sma | oh hi all, was just reading mails. |
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| 14:05.06 | pb_ | hi fng_sma |
| 14:10.27 | koen | fng_sma: libopensync is ~192kB in total |
| 14:10.40 | fng_sma | Yeah, i just read it. Looks good! |
| 14:15.33 | fng_sma | Wow! the plugin connected and read some data from the database!! |
| 14:17.38 | florian_kc | fng_sma: congratulations! |
| 14:17.50 | koen | fng_sma: cheers! |
| 14:18.53 | fng_sma | hmmm... but seems, like it doesn't close the connection properly. |
| 14:27.50 | koen | drat |
| 14:28.04 | koen | criawips wants to talk to gconf directly during install |
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| 14:34.01 | hrw|wrt | cu |
| 14:34.08 | koen | hrw|wrt: cu |
| 14:44.30 | fng_sma | Could it be, that nsqld doesn't close the connection if the client disconnected? |
| 14:45.44 | jh___ | hm, gpe up on my akita. how do I rotate the screen to landscape? |
| 14:47.57 | pb_ | fng_sma: what do you mean by "close the connection"? |
| 14:47.57 | florian_kc | fng_sma: hmm... maybe it takes some time. pb_ might know some details. |
| 14:48.00 | Philippe_work | jh__ : there should be a button in the taskbar with an arrow on it. That should rotate the screen. |
| 14:48.01 | florian_kc | :-) |
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| 14:50.36 | jh___ | Philippe_work: ah, found it and added it to the panel unfortunately akita landscape is upside down :) |
| 14:51.07 | jh___ | great looking interface, though... i think i found my weekend project |
| 14:51.49 | fng_sma | pb_: when I terminate a connection, netstats lists the connection about 10-20 seconds with stat TIME_WAIT |
| 14:53.41 | pb_ | that's normal |
| 14:54.02 | fng_sma | okay, then the plugin disconnects properly ;-) |
| 14:54.50 | pb_ | TCP sockets hang around for a little while after the connection is closed, to mop up any stray packets that might still be floating around in the network. |
| 14:55.05 | Philippe_work | jh___, nice to hear you like it. :-) |
| 14:55.28 | florian_kc | jh___: sounds good! |
| 14:56.11 | jh___ | just don't tell my wife :) |
| 14:56.38 | florian_kc | *g* |
| 14:56.57 | florian_kc | That sounds familiar... but they get used to it :-) |
| 14:58.05 | fng_sma | yes, i must admit it has also some advantages, if the girlfriend is not around... |
| 14:59.55 | florian_kc | yes, at least for the important factor "time" :-) |
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| 15:33.27 | fng_sma | pb_ (or florian_kc): Is in the databases somewhere stored, when the last sync was? |
| 15:34.24 | florian_kc | fng_sma: Yes... that is a tag which stores the last change. (one for each entry). |
| 15:40.49 | koen | fng_sma: could you write some instructions in the wiki? I have some time in the weekend to test syncing |
| 15:49.13 | fng_sma | koen: I'm sorry, but there is no syncing yet... It's just connecting, and I hope I can soon print out a list of the things that were changed. |
| 15:49.31 | sajar | So far looks good. Minor issue is that hx4700 wont suspend from the power button even if configured.. suspend command has to be given from shell |
| 15:50.16 | sajar | susp/resume works that way tho. |
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| 15:52.59 | florian_kc | hi france_ |
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| 16:14.09 | koen | florian_kc: what do you think about notifying gpe@ of new releases? |
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| 16:27.33 | koen | Philippe_work: http://www.advogato.org/person/Uraeus/diary.html?start=492 |
| 16:27.35 | florian_kc | koen: yes, i'll do this |
| 16:28.35 | Philippe_work | koen: '-) |
| 16:29.48 | florian_kc | *g* |
| 16:45.07 | fng_sma | I'll go off, to catch some thing to eat. |
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| 17:01.33 | koen | 18:47 < CIA-1> florian * gpe/base/minilite/ (ChangeLog minilite.c po/minilite.pot): Fix warnings, add support for Nokia 770 / OMAP non-standard sysclass devices. |
| 17:01.51 | koen | stuff like that makes me wonder if companies ever going to get 'standards' |
| 17:02.47 | florian_kc | koen: yeah... some things they did i'll never understand. |
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| 17:04.19 | koen | I wonder if it will end up in the kernel |
| 17:05.12 | florian_kc | koen: maybe... they claimed to push everything to the mainstream kernel. that might be a stupid omap driver. |
| 17:05.45 | florian_kc | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.32103.png |
| 17:05.53 | florian_kc | Zoom works pretty nice... |
| 17:06.05 | koen | It does |
| 17:06.36 | koen | I'm still trying to talk philippe into making it a slider :) |
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| 17:07.31 | florian_kc | hmm.. not sure about this, it is slow |
| 17:07.44 | florian_kc | that browser rocks on the 770! |
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| 17:33.52 | reenoo | evening |
| 17:41.31 | koen | hey reenoo |
| 17:41.57 | reenoo | yo koen |
| 17:44.00 | reenoo | Philippe: congrats on the gpe-mini-browser port! (http://www.advogato.org/person/Uraeus/diary.html?start=492) |
| 17:45.59 | florian_kc | Loos like Philippe is the hero of the day :-) |
| 17:47.46 | florian_kc | reenoo: I played around with gpe-mini-browser on a 770 with a gpe image today... (see hh.org/scap) its really fun. |
| 17:50.44 | france_ | florian_kc: hi |
| 17:51.09 | koen | hey france_ |
| 17:51.24 | koen | florian_kc: many thanks :19:50 < CIA-1> florian * gpe/base/gpe-contacts/ (ChangeLog main.c): Change packing of deatil table in bigscreen + portrait mode. |
| 17:51.43 | reenoo | florian_kc: yeah, pretty cool stuff. |
| 17:51.53 | reenoo | who got gpdf to work btw? |
| 17:52.01 | reenoo | http://handhelds.org/scap/land.6812.png |
| 17:52.02 | koen | reenoo: evince and me |
| 17:52.13 | reenoo | ah, nice |
| 17:52.18 | koen | 1) remove vera fonts |
| 17:52.24 | koen | 2) install dejavu fonts |
| 17:52.33 | koen | and suddenly most pdf files work |
| 17:52.40 | florian_kc | koen: heh... you are fast today :-) I'll test if it really works now. |
| 17:52.47 | koen | it still crashes at the linuxmag article |
| 17:52.49 | france_ | koen: hi |
| 17:52.57 | reenoo | koen: hmm, odd. |
| 17:53.01 | koen | and dejavu-mono is *really* ugly |
| 17:53.09 | reenoo | hey france_ |
| 17:53.16 | koen | reenoo: I'll look at the pdaXrom freetype patches this weekend |
| 17:53.32 | reenoo | koen: yeah, I wondered why the fonts looked so.. wrong ;) |
| 17:56.12 | koen | reenoo: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.3215.png <- really scary |
| 18:00.34 | reenoo | florian_kc: the only sad thing is that there's rarely any mention of GPE as such (not on p.g.o anyway). I had hoped for that to change after this year's guadec but apparently that was just a dream |
| 18:00.56 | france_ | reenoo: hi |
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| 18:01.40 | jh___ | does gpe-mini-browser display images? |
| 18:02.16 | reenoo | jh___: with the right gdk-pixbuf-loader-* packages installed it should |
| 18:02.35 | jh___ | reenoo: ah, ok... i must be missing those |
| 18:03.59 | florian_kc | reenoo: yeah... we should work on our marketing department :-) I'll try to announce news more regularly at least... |
| 18:05.14 | Philippe | ok back. |
| 18:05.36 | Philippe | koen: Yes I will do the slider if I have enough time to make it happen. |
| 18:05.39 | florian_kc | Philippe: wb |
| 18:06.01 | reenoo | florian_kc: we need someone's blog to be syndicated by p.g.o to get into the loop I guess |
| 18:06.02 | florian_kc | koen: in xnest it looks good now |
| 18:06.48 | florian_kc | reenoo: right... is this easy to do? |
| 18:07.19 | reenoo | florian_kc: dunno. talk to jdub I guess |
| 18:07.22 | koen | someone with a gnomey blog needs to poke jdub |
| 18:07.34 | reenoo | exactly |
| 18:08.23 | koen | fwiw mallum is already on http://planet.freedesktop.org/ |
| 18:09.05 | Philippe | what about the handhelds blog plan? What happened with that? |
| 18:09.43 | koen | HP decided to shutdown CRL, that paused a lot of stuff |
| 18:09.48 | florian_kc | Philippe: seems to be in experimental state... |
| 18:10.14 | koen | Philippe: http://handhelds.org/~jamey/planet/index.html |
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| 18:11.56 | Philippe | Seems okay to me. |
| 18:12.08 | florian_kc | reenoo: That's one reason i started the development manual project, makeing GPE easier for developers is an important step to make other advertising effective. |
| 18:14.20 | reenoo | ;) |
| 18:14.51 | florian_kc | reenoo: yes indeed... thats one the schedule for this weekend. |
| 18:16.03 | reenoo | actually I don't think the developers' manual would be a crucial thing to enter the gnome universe. that's needed for new developers but not for someone familiar with the gnome stack of libs (which we use) |
| 18:16.29 | reenoo | what I'd like to work on is to make GPE easy to try |
| 18:16.54 | reenoo | make matchbox and gpe enter major distributions etc. |
| 18:17.33 | reenoo | I have a couple of ebuilds for matchbox already and will submit them to gentoo bugzilla soon |
| 18:17.58 | florian_kc | hmm yes... we should add more apps to debian. i have a setup to create debs for gpe-contacts e.g. |
| 18:18.26 | reenoo | right. it's not like we have a lack of DDs here ;) |
| 18:18.29 | florian_kc | and someone needs to add a set of working matchbox to debian |
| 18:19.24 | reenoo | later florian_kc |
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| 18:29.07 | koen | reenoo: once evince finished rendering it's pretty fast |
| 18:30.08 | reenoo | I don't think it does much after that point anyway. it's X doing the actual work ;) |
| 18:32.36 | koen | It at least caches the pixmaps, instead of regenerating them |
| 18:34.26 | reenoo | dunno. I believe it just generates one giant pixmap adds a viewport around it and has X do the rest |
| 18:34.36 | koen | ah, ok |
| 18:35.11 | reenoo | I haven't looked into its code though |
| 18:38.18 | koen | so it just uses memory like crazy ;) |
| 18:38.43 | reenoo | the X server would in that case, yeah. |
| 18:39.15 | reenoo | GdkPixmaps are stored server side |
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| 18:46.50 | koen | do we have any redhat dev around? |
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| 18:50.30 | fng_sma | hi all |
| 18:51.38 | reenoo | hi fng_sma |
| 18:51.39 | koen | hey fng_sma |
| 18:52.23 | Philippe_kitchen | hey fng_sma |
| 18:52.39 | fng_sma | Philippe_kitchen: you have internet in your kitchen? ;-) |
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| 18:53.13 | koen | hey pb_ |
| 18:53.23 | pb_ | hi koen |
| 18:53.48 | fng_sma | hi pb_ |
| 18:53.53 | pb_ | hi fng_sma |
| 18:55.02 | fng_sma | I just thought it would be smarter to store the time of the last sync not on the pda. Wouldn't it be better, if opensync would store it? |
| 18:56.22 | pb_ | I'm not sure that it makes a lot of difference either way. |
| 18:56.42 | pb_ | Storing it on the host would probably be fine, if you want to do that. |
| 18:56.54 | fng_sma | Because then, I can sync with different computers and on each computer those items are updated can be different (because, they have different "versions" of the databases). |
| 18:57.06 | fng_sma | gosh! this is horrible to explain... |
| 18:57.07 | koen | it's better in the situation of 2 hosts (home, work) and one pda |
| 18:57.24 | pb_ | well, either way around you'd want the sync time to be keyed against the (host, remote) tuple. |
| 18:57.38 | fng_sma | thanks koen, that's what I wanted to say ;-) |
| 18:57.38 | koen | that to |
| 18:57.49 | pb_ | otherwise, you will always lose out if you have multiple hosts and multiple handhelds. |
| 18:58.15 | koen | preferably in GMT |
| 18:58.16 | Philippe_kitchen | fng_sma : pb is also right if entries need to be updated on the pda. |
| 18:58.41 | Philippe_kitchen | You need to keep a timestamp together with a host. |
| 18:58.55 | fng_sma | Okay, so I need for every host a timestamp, right? |
| 18:59.13 | pb_ | You need a timestamp for every association between a host and a remote. |
| 18:59.38 | pb_ | Depending on where you store them, one or other of those things is going to be constant. |
| 19:00.43 | pb_ | that is, if you store the timestamps on the host, it only needs to care about associations between itself and a variety of remotes. similarly, if you store the timestamp on the handheld, it only needs to care about associations between itself and a variety of hosts. |
| 19:01.43 | reenoo | argh.. I hate it when that happens :( adding debug code makes the segfault vanish... |
| 19:02.13 | pb_ | At the point where you're actually doing a sync, both ends must (obviously) be present, so it doesn't really matter where the last-sync-time data is stored. |
| 19:02.26 | pb_ | reenoo: that is always annoying |
| 19:03.13 | zecke | reenoo: I'm trying to do a bitbake release this weekend |
| 19:03.48 | pb_ | zecke: excellent |
| 19:04.14 | fng_sma | pb_: I think I got it finally. :-) |
| 19:05.04 | reenoo | zecke: ah, great. |
| 19:05.20 | reenoo | zecke: maybe we should mirror the release on hh.org or something |
| 19:05.36 | reenoo | zecke: in case berlios.de is having issues again |
| 19:07.55 | zecke | reenoo: I can tag it but I can not release it on berlios.de |
| 19:08.04 | zecke | reenoo: only kergoth has the rights to do that |
| 19:08.17 | zecke | reenoo: and there simply was no other acceptable solution for the issue |
| 19:09.30 | reenoo | zecke: yah. don't worry about that. I was just surprised to see the h3900.conf change go in without a note about the new operator etc. in the commit message |
| 19:10.07 | zecke | yeah that was bad - no doubt |
| 19:10.42 | zecke | reenoo: pb_ and me even talked about the implications of tying oe to a specific bitbake release |
| 19:12.00 | koen | it was actually my bad |
| 19:16.07 | france_ | brb rebooting |
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| 19:45.44 | florian | re |
| 19:46.14 | florian | That was a wet trip... |
| 19:46.44 | koen | florian: wb |
| 19:46.55 | fng_sma | florian: rainy in siegen too? |
| 19:49.02 | florian | fng_sma: yeah... especially if you have to go 5km by bike. |
| 19:50.13 | fng_sma | florian: I've rarely seen (and heard!) such a storm. |
| 19:52.24 | florian | heh |
| 19:52.43 | florian | fng_sma: where are you located? |
| 19:54.50 | fng_sma | florian: heidelberg, still some way to go, but not that far. |
| 19:56.01 | florian | fng_sma: ah... nice area, i have a friend in the SAP town :-) |
| 19:56.55 | fng_sma | florian: I used to work there, for about six months. They had pretty good food! |
| 19:57.22 | fng_sma | florian: Does he work in Walldorf or a little outside? |
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| 19:59.01 | reenoo | pb_: I just checked in a patch for minimix. mind if I do a new release? |
| 19:59.03 | koen | reenoo: can I talk you into adding minimix to OE? |
| 19:59.36 | reenoo | koen: that's just a matter of a commit/push |
| 20:02.56 | florian | fng_sma: hmm... a very little outside at SAP. |
| 20:03.34 | florian | reenoo: cool - i think i can take care of the release :-) |
| 20:04.39 | fng_sma | florian: I worked also a little outside in St.Leon Rot. I had to call customers. Wasn't that exciting. |
| 20:05.26 | reenoo | florian: that'd be great. I just realized I can't "make dist" on this box. |
| 20:07.00 | florian | fng_sma: uh right.. that sounds nasty. |
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| 20:16.42 | florian | hrm.. wher picks this configure "NONE" for prefix?! |
| 20:32.55 | florian | reenoo: minimix-0.7.tar.bz2 is uploaded |
| 20:41.29 | reenoo | florian: waiting for monotone pull to finish. that may take a while... |
| 20:42.05 | florian | reenoo: heh... same here :-) I just connected to my build machine to prepare a gpe image for x86. |
| 21:08.28 | reenoo | ~stab monotone |
| 21:08.28 | ibot | ACTION runs at monotone with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 21:09.31 | Philippe_kitchen | ~lart maemo.desktop system |
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| 21:10.00 | florian | yes... that's all very true... |
| 21:10.16 | reenoo | ~botsnack |
| 21:10.16 | ibot | reenoo: aw, gee |
| 21:10.24 | florian | hi tigrux |
| 21:10.30 | tigrux | Hello florian |
| 21:11.21 | reenoo | actually, "maemo.desktop system".. what's that? ;) |
| 21:11.30 | reenoo | hola tigrux |
| 21:11.48 | tigrux | Hello reenoo, I mean, hola :-) |
| 21:15.26 | reenoo | koen, florian: minimix .bb pushed |
| 21:16.17 | florian | reenoo: cool |
| 21:16.17 | florian | koen: that's a candidate for familiar |
| 21:16.24 | florian | For some rason the internet connection to kc is dead slow |
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| 21:32.34 | koen | reenoo: thanks |
| 21:32.55 | koen | florian: add it to meta-gpe.bb (or whatever it is called) |
| 21:33.08 | florian | koen: too late |
| 21:33.12 | reenoo | :) |
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| 21:34.00 | reenoo | heh |
| 21:34.03 | florian | (4 CPU Xeon, 2GB of Ram) |
| 21:34.20 | koen | 23:21 < CIA-2> rw org.oe.dev * re584e064... /packages/meta/meta-gpe.bb: meta-gpe: add minimix to gpe-task-settings |
| 21:38.45 | pb_ | reenoo: please go ahead |
| 21:39.44 | florian | pb_: too late :-) |
| 21:40.20 | Philippe_kitchen | grrr the maemo task navigator died on me making some links.... |
| 21:41.21 | pb_ | florian: oh, heh |
| 21:44.18 | florian | Philippe_kitchen: yeah... that automatic update makes it die somtimes :-/ |
| 21:45.03 | florian | Philippe_kitchen: Do you register gpe-mini-browser to osso after startup? |
| 21:45.18 | Philippe_kitchen | restarting doesn't help. The menu entries are there and no apps start anymore |
| 21:45.31 | Philippe_kitchen | florian : not that I know. How do i do that? |
| 21:47.17 | koen | osso_appclication_init()? |
| 21:47.36 | florian | Philippe_kitchen: take a look at gpe-todo/main.c. You can copy the bits from there. The service name you register needs to match the org.gpe.<something> in the .service file. |
| 21:48.24 | florian | Philippe_kitchen: And you need to link agains libosso then - if you don't do so, the Navigator will kill it after some time. |
| 21:48.44 | mallum | florian: oh I saw the psion thing at debconf |
| 21:48.47 | mallum | florian: pretty nice |
| 21:49.30 | florian | koen: osso_initialize() |
| 21:49.36 | koen | osso_context = osso_initialize( |
| 21:49.36 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:49.36 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:49.36 | koen | /* Check that initialization was ok */ |
| 21:49.36 | koen | if (osso_context == NULL) |
| 21:49.39 | koen | { |
| 21:49.41 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:49.44 | koen | } |
| 21:49.59 | florian | mallum: The Netbook Pro? |
| 21:50.00 | koen | that will also check for errors |
| 21:50.21 | florian | koen: yeah |
| 21:51.21 | florian | reenoo: it does... imho it was intended to be used internal only for the open source effort inside Nokia. |
| 21:51.35 | Philippe_kitchen | florian : still no apps start up anymore if I click on the menu entry. |
| 21:52.16 | florian | Philippe_kitchen: oh... what did you do exactly? |
| 21:53.23 | florian | mallum: It is a nice piece of mechanical design, very useful - but expensive and slow. |
| 21:54.04 | koen | mallum: are you a freetype guru? |
| 21:56.11 | Philippe_kitchen | florian : just put a .desktop file in /etc/others-menu |
| 21:57.29 | florian | Philippe_kitchen: oops |
| 21:57.46 | mallum | florian: yeah |
| 21:57.59 | mallum | florian: wookey and another guy was there with one |
| 21:58.21 | mallum | florian: they got all annoyed with me though, when I sent they should sent changes upstream :/ |
| 21:58.40 | mallum | florian: so I broke there arms |
| 21:58.54 | mallum | koen: hmm, no |
| 21:58.56 | koen | poor little cpus |
| 21:58.58 | mallum | koen: whats up ? |
| 21:59.29 | koen | mallum: pdf readers crash because freetype does Bad Things(TM) when using vera |
| 21:59.39 | koen | apps magically start working with dejavu fonts |
| 21:59.40 | mallum | I have to go and watch battlestar galatica in a mo |
| 21:59.46 | mallum | urg |
| 21:59.52 | mallum | all pdf readers ? |
| 22:00.00 | koen | evince, gpdf and xpdf |
| 22:00.09 | koen | we suspect abiword too |
| 22:00.22 | koen | abi crashes on italics with vera |
| 22:00.25 | mallum | sounds like an ARM thing ? |
| 22:00.36 | florian | mallum: heh... yeah... there is some unknown licensing state about the kernel stuff aund the build tools for the initrd. but apart from this most stuff came back to the projects - luckily. |
| 22:01.00 | koen | mallum: your pdaX brethren have patches, but it's gibberish to me |
| 22:01.09 | mallum | florian: yeah they said they had some changes to MB but wern't required to send upstrea, |
| 22:01.21 | mallum | florian: cos not distributed or summin |
| 22:01.32 | mallum | florian: i.e. never released to public. probably right |
| 22:01.42 | mallum | koen: is it ok without the patches ? |
| 22:02.02 | florian | mallum: i guess i can take a look :-) |
| 22:02.06 | koen | just don't use the default font we ship in all our images |
| 22:02.24 | mallum | koen: why do they patch freetype ? |
| 22:02.51 | mallum | btw, I didn't actually break anyones arms, the other guy was much bigger than me |
| 22:02.55 | mallum | and wookey is a nice chap |
| 22:02.57 | koen | it seems freetype shits itself in some situations (like with vera) |
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| 22:03.08 | mimecar | hi |
| 22:03.20 | mallum | koen: even without crazed rusky patches ? |
| 22:03.28 | koen | yes |
| 22:03.32 | mallum | ewe |
| 22:03.38 | koen | indeed |
| 22:03.53 | mallum | sounds like a fun bug |
| 22:04.00 | koen | it took some time before we figured out that fonts(!!!) were crashing the apps |
| 22:04.05 | mallum | but its an ARM thing right ? |
| 22:04.06 | florian | mallum: indeed... and i remember he was quite good. i wonder what happened to him.. i havn't seen him for a while on irc. |
| 22:04.34 | mallum | florian: he was at debconf |
| 22:04.39 | koen | mallum: http://handhelds.org/scap/land.6450.png |
| 22:04.51 | koen | mallum: I don't know if it's limited to ARM, it could be |
| 22:05.08 | florian | mallum: too bad i didn't make it :-( I was on honeymoon during this time. |
| 22:05.18 | mallum | florian: ah congrats :) |
| 22:05.23 | mallum | ok I have to go |
| 22:05.27 | florian | mallum: uh thanks :-) |
| 22:05.28 | koen | mallum: have fun |
| 22:05.34 | florian | mallum: cu |
| 22:05.48 | mallum | koen: find out if its same on x86, easier to debug then :) |
| 22:05.51 | mallum | okey bbaib |
| 22:08.07 | koen | D'oh |
| 22:08.19 | koen | that one airs in 2 hours |
| 22:08.50 | Philippe_kitchen | florian : wookey is on holiday for the moment |
| 22:09.07 | florian | Philippe_kitchen: still or again? |
| 22:09.26 | Philippe_kitchen | still I think |
| 22:09.46 | florian | okay :-) |
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| 22:10.21 | koen | Philippe_kitchen: rigid is going to contact kate about glading gpsdrive |
| 22:10.48 | Philippe_kitchen | koen : ok. I wish them good luck. It won't be easy. |
| 22:12.45 | koen | I hope they succeed |
| 22:13.04 | florian | that would be really useful |
| 22:13.34 | koen | they even have a wiki now: http://www.livingresource.net/gpsdrive/index.php/Main_Page |
| 22:14.57 | florian | gpe rules scap :-) |
| 22:21.10 | koen | florian: I was tempted to buy this for $50 on holidays: http://www.cyberiapc.com/classicsys/workpad.htm |
| 22:22.53 | florian | koen: uh... what a strange piece of hardware. |
| 22:23.23 | koen | it looks thinner in real life |
| 22:23.33 | koen | too bad it only has 16MB ram |
| 22:23.44 | florian | hmm that's not really much |
| 22:24.05 | reenoo | what size is that? |
| 22:24.53 | koen | 26x20 cm |
| 22:26.25 | reenoo | ah, not much smaller than the X series then |
| 22:26.26 | koen | http://www.figuiere.net/hub/blog/?2005/07/29/263-nokia-770 |
| 22:27.46 | reenoo | have nokia handed out any of the discount keys yet btw? |
| 22:28.04 | koen | not that I know off |
| 22:28.12 | koen | they have my vcard :) |
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| 22:28.51 | florian | reenoo: some... but not very much, and now everyone is on hilidays in finland |
| 22:29.14 | reenoo | florian: ah, I see. |
| 22:29.23 | florian | koen: nice... |
| 22:29.28 | reenoo | hmm.. vacation |
| 22:29.40 | florian | we need to port the new version of the plucker back to gpe :-) |
| 22:29.49 | reenoo | heh |
| 22:30.09 | koen | ~seen nilsf |
| 22:30.11 | ibot | nilsf <~nils@dns.kernelconcepts.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #handhelds.org, 3h 57m 2s ago, saying: 'koen: Hmm... ;)'. |
| 22:30.36 | reenoo | hehe |
| 22:33.00 | reenoo | arrgh.. I need some sort of reference managing software :/ |
| 22:33.34 | koen | 'night all |
| 22:33.39 | reenoo | 'night koen |
| 22:33.48 | florian | koen|sleep: good night |
| 22:34.00 | koen|sleep | florian: teach your wife C(++) |
| 22:34.32 | florian | hmm... well... i fear that's a bad idea. |
| 22:34.35 | reenoo | nah, teach koen|sleep C(++) |
| 22:34.43 | reenoo | >:) |
| 22:44.36 | florian | Philippe_kitchen: to fix that navigator issue? |
| 22:44.48 | Philippe_kitchen | florian yes |
| 22:45.40 | florian | Philippe_kitchen: you can simply rm the target and create a new one using sbox-config -ct |
| 22:45.48 | Philippe_kitchen | I unpacked the tarball again to get it right. removed the files I put in. Now dbus complains about not having enough memory... |
| 22:45.58 | Philippe_kitchen | florian : hmm that might be a better idea |
| 22:46.05 | florian | that should fix it... |
| 23:01.03 | fng_sma | sleep well |
| 23:03.41 | Philippe_kitchen | florian sbox_config -rt and then unpacking the devkit again did the trick it seems. |
| 23:10.24 | shiyee | does anyone have a solution or workaround for the bug described by pb_ at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101968 ? |
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| 23:21.54 | florian | Philippe_kitchen: very good |
| 23:22.23 | florian | shiyee: that's a hard one... |
| 23:24.21 | shiyee | florian: yeah, thought so since the GTK guys haven't fixed or closed it in 2 years... |
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| 23:25.02 | shiyee | was hoping for some dirty workaround |
| 23:25.34 | florian | Not that i'm aware of, but that doesn't mean that there isn't one. |
| 23:30.45 | reenoo | 'night all |
| 23:32.32 | florian | reenoo: good night |
| 23:43.26 | shiyee | is it safe to assume that the minimal display width is 240px? |
| 23:44.23 | Philippe_kitchen | Well that is the smallest I know. And to be honest even smaller would not be very useful. |
| 23:44.48 | florian | shiyee: usually yes... |
| 23:45.11 | shiyee | okay, found a dirty hack then :-) |
