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| 00:02.31 | univac|pda | hi |
| 00:03.18 | fng|dinner | hi |
| 00:30.39 | EnceloAMD | is it possible that gpe requires 50mb of ram?!!? |
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| 00:46.08 | philippe_laptop | EnceloAMD : NO. Take into account that Linux buffers quiete aggressively, so your free memory is not really an indication of the amount of memory that is being used by an or several application(s) |
| 01:01.06 | EnceloAMD | Mem: 62408(total), 50380(used), 12028(free), 0(shared), 1568(buffers) |
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| 08:26.15 | florian_kc | good morning |
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| 08:30.54 | florian_kc | Philippe_work: good morning |
| 08:36.35 | bedboi | today i'll leave for Poland... i hate to arrange things before leaving |
| 08:36.44 | bedboi | s/today/tomorrow |
| 08:37.03 | florian_kc | bedboi: oh... what do you do there? |
| 08:37.11 | bedboi | i still have to do a lot of things including cutting my hairs |
| 08:37.30 | bedboi | florian_kc: i'll be there for work 10 days |
| 08:37.46 | bedboi | then i'll be back in 7 August |
| 08:37.49 | florian_kc | bedboi: sounds cool |
| 08:38.11 | bedboi | and i'll leave for Spain (this time vacation ;) ) in 9 August |
| 08:38.44 | florian_kc | even better... |
| 08:39.13 | bedboi | yep |
| 08:39.51 | bedboi | i would like to use some spatial-temporal hole and be in 9 of August |
| 08:40.11 | bedboi | better if in Spain too |
| 08:40.21 | bedboi | just to skip the trip |
| 08:44.09 | bedboi | 'morning koen |
| 08:44.36 | koen | hey bedboi |
| 08:49.16 | koen | ~spell http://www.sparkfun.com/shop/index.php?shop=1&cart=334270&cat=1&itemid=418& |
| 08:49.31 | koen | ~spell bureaucracy. |
| 08:49.55 | florian_kc | hi koen |
| 08:50.07 | koen | hey florian_kc |
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| 09:59.43 | Philippe_work | morning florian |
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| 10:03.56 | florian_kc | pb_: good morning |
| 10:04.02 | pb_ | florian_kc: good morning |
| 10:04.09 | koen | hey pb_ & Philippe_work |
| 10:04.21 | Philippe_work | hey koen |
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| 11:28.19 | koen | hey fng_sma |
| 11:29.45 | fng_sma | hi koen ! |
| 11:32.40 | fng_sma | hey koen, where are you from? |
| 11:33.03 | florian_kc | hi fng_sma |
| 11:33.12 | fng_sma | hi florian |
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| 11:33.58 | fng_sma | florian_kc: do you know if libnsqlc is working/stable? |
| 11:34.08 | koen | fng_sma: enschede, the Netherlands |
| 11:34.21 | florian_kc | hi jsmanrique |
| 11:34.49 | florian_kc | fng_sma: I'm not sure if it is perfectly stable, but it should work. |
| 11:35.13 | fng_sma | florian_kc: or if there are any known issues with it? |
| 11:35.30 | fng_sma | because it looks very handy for my plugin. |
| 11:39.40 | florian_kc | fng_sma: not that i'm aware of, if you notice something please file bugs :-) |
| 11:45.49 | fng_sma | koen: I once drove by bike to Winterswijk. My cousin lives ther. |
| 11:46.42 | koen | nice |
| 11:46.51 | koen | I'm 50km north of that |
| 11:47.11 | fng_sma | I just saw that on the map. It was very windy, but flat ;-) |
| 11:48.17 | koen | imagine that the western and southern parts of .nl are the hilliest (is that a word?) |
| 11:48.38 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 11:48.48 | florian_kc | In german it would be vaild :-) |
| 11:49.44 | fng_sma | koen: :-), my aunt used to live in a town called something "at the mountain" and the mountain was about 10 meters high. |
| 11:50.07 | fng_sma | don't forget to take with your oxygen bottles! |
| 11:50.39 | koen | L) |
| 11:50.43 | koen | :) |
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| 12:14.56 | florian_kc | koen: Sounds good! |
| 12:16.04 | koen | thanks to http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~zabel/hx4700/broken-out/ |
| 12:16.11 | koen | iirc that is pH5 |
| 12:18.58 | florian_kc | hmm yes, that looks good. |
| 12:19.53 | koen | I have some really small remarks on some portions, but for the rest it should be ready to commit |
| 12:20.06 | koen | I adviced Phillip to attach them to bugzilla |
| 12:25.14 | koen | minimo on wince: http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/westfall-20050727-minimo.jpg |
| 12:26.45 | florian_kc | yeah... the font renering on wonce sucks. but it could be better with kdrive too |
| 12:29.06 | Philippe_work | saw that yesterday. The colours are hidious alsoe... |
| 12:29.15 | Philippe_work | s/alsoe/also/ |
| 12:30.17 | koen | s/renders better/does not crash on googlemaps/ |
| 12:30.27 | koen | ;) |
| 12:30.31 | Philippe_work | idd |
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| 12:41.34 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:51.52 | Philippe_work | koen: the gpe-mini-browser-hildon port is almost done. I need to get the toolbar right and fix an autotools issue. With some luck I manage to do that tonight. |
| 12:53.27 | koen | very cool |
| 12:53.42 | koen | Philippe_work: remember: 'osso-screenshot-tool' is your friend :) |
| 12:53.54 | Philippe_work | ok :-) |
| 12:54.18 | Philippe_work | fixing C++ compiling with the broken toolchain in the maemo code was the biggest problem yesterday |
| 12:54.59 | Philippe_work | s/code/SDK/ |
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| 13:20.46 | koen | hey their fearless bearded leader of opened-hand minions |
| 13:21.16 | koen | s/their/there/ |
| 13:22.36 | Philippe_work | ~hail the bearded leader |
| 13:22.36 | ibot | ACTION bows down to the bearded leader and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 13:22.45 | Philippe_work | hi mallum |
| 13:23.01 | mallum | hey Philippe |
| 13:23.04 | mallum | hey koen |
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| 13:29.57 | koen | hey jamey |
| 13:30.14 | Philippe_work | hi jamey |
| 13:39.08 | jamey | hi koen |
| 13:39.13 | jamey | hi Philippe_work |
| 13:43.31 | florian_kc | hi jamey |
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| 13:47.00 | jamey | hi florian_kc |
| 13:49.38 | koen | florian_kc: not *really* necessay, but it's one the big missing things in gpe-calendar |
| 13:50.14 | koen | florian_kc: if gpe-calendar would support viewing them (not importing) it would be a big step forward |
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| 13:50.49 | florian_kc | koen: imho everyone sees the advantage, but someone needs time to do this |
| 13:51.17 | koen | that's what I thought |
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| 14:01.36 | florian_kc | hey mallum is here... |
| 14:02.00 | florian_kc | mallum: I havn't seen you for a while... everything okay? |
| 14:04.24 | florian_kc | pb_: Will it cause trouble if i change the gpe-dm bb to start gpe-dm in other runlevels than 5? |
| 14:05.05 | mallum | florian_kc: yeah everything fine :) been on hol's and stuff |
| 14:06.46 | florian_kc | mallum: very nice :-) |
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| 14:16.44 | sageLin | anyone speak on russian? |
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| 14:29.10 | pb_ | florian_kc: Which runlevels did you have in mind? |
| 14:29.34 | florian_kc | pb_: 2 |
| 14:29.37 | pb_ | I am a little bit cross still that it doesn't start in runlevel 2 anymore, but I didn't have the strength to continue fighting that battle. |
| 14:29.42 | pb_ | ah, right, heh |
| 14:29.53 | pb_ | yeah, go ahead and make that change |
| 14:30.00 | florian_kc | okay |
| 14:32.43 | florian_kc | hrm... where is my build machine?! |
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| 14:33.29 | bedboi | hi all |
| 14:33.34 | florian_kc | hi bedboi |
| 14:33.45 | florian_kc | ~lart Silvan |
| 14:33.59 | koen | hey bedboi |
| 14:34.14 | bedboi | hi koen |
| 14:34.20 | florian_kc | looks like he accidentally switched off my machine... |
| 14:37.42 | bedboi | that does not sound good. |
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| 14:56.21 | koen | hey tigrux |
| 14:56.35 | tigrux | Hello koen. Ready for Veracruz? |
| 14:56.56 | koen | tigrux: I'm ready :) |
| 14:57.03 | koen | tigrux: has the date been set? |
| 14:57.48 | tigrux | koen: GULEV Congreso Internacional de Software Libre |
| 14:57.48 | tigrux | 22, 23 y 24 de Septiembre - Coatzacoalcos, Ver. - México |
| 15:02.15 | koen | tigrux: I haven't heard from miguel, but I'll start learning spanish :) |
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| 16:47.57 | sageLin | anyone speak on russian? |
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| 16:49.55 | flo_gpe | very nice :-) |
| 16:50.53 | pb_ | heh |
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| 16:51.28 | sageLin | flo_gpe: u speak on russian? |
| 16:52.36 | flo_gpe | sageLin: no, sorry |
| 16:53.10 | sageLin | her |
| 16:53.17 | florian_kc | we have a nice thunderstorm here... |
| 16:54.53 | Philippe_work | just lousy rain here.... |
| 16:55.32 | Philippe_work | But it cools. That is the most important |
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| 17:05.58 | koen | flo_gpe: trying out a 770? |
| 17:06.46 | flo_gpe | koen: yes... but latest initrd sucks |
| 17:07.39 | flo_gpe | hotplug gets confused because sysfs is mounted into initrd |
| 17:09.16 | koen | can't you remount it? |
| 17:09.54 | koen | or mount --bind? |
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| 17:13.12 | florian_kc | koen: i can mount it twice, but mounting it twice breaks hotplug firmware upload :-/ |
| 17:13.21 | koen | D'oh |
| 17:14.07 | florian_kc | hrm... no scap in the default images? |
| 17:14.20 | koen | there should be |
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| 17:20.05 | koen | ooooh |
| 17:20.16 | koen | osx text to speech also works for terminals |
| 17:20.35 | florian_kc | hmm yes, it is in handhelds-common.conf |
| 17:21.18 | koen | does that get included by nokia770.conf? |
| 17:23.57 | florian_kc | yes... but it looks like it overwrites the settings again... |
| 17:24.25 | florian_kc | so lets try another one. |
| 18:03.26 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 18:03.41 | koen | heh |
| 18:03.52 | koen | I even used an extra mini |
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| 18:38.53 | Philippe | koen, I am starting on the rest of the port now :-) |
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| 19:18.50 | koen | Alignment trap: gpe-mini-browse (6913) PC=0x40387f60 Instr=0xe8950003 Address=0x403b641f FSR 0x0f3 |
| 19:18.53 | koen | hmmmmm |
| 19:22.56 | Philippe | koen: sounds bad |
| 19:23.21 | koen | Philippe: http://handhelds.org/scap/land.3514.png |
| 19:23.31 | koen | that's g-m-b on a hx4700 |
| 19:25.00 | Philippe | koen: looks good. |
| 19:25.06 | sageLin | koen: familiar will be release 07.2005? sorry i'm bad speak english ( |
| 19:25.23 | koen | sageLin: no, I think 09.2005 |
| 19:25.42 | sageLin | =((( |
| 19:27.15 | koen | ibot: botmail for florian: this scap shows the scrollbar problem I was talking about: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.4305.png |
| 19:31.42 | sageLin | koen: for opie i have package opie-i18n-ru_1.2.0-r0_arm.ipk for russicify interface, i want download package for gpe 2.6 where? |
| 19:31.47 | sageLin | if it really |
| 19:33.53 | koen | sageLin: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.gpe/4420 |
| 19:34.57 | sageLin | thx |
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| 19:53.21 | florian | re |
| 19:54.04 | florian | koen|tv: i see... that's strange indeed. |
| 19:54.08 | koen|tv | hey florian |
| 19:55.28 | koen|tv | finally: http://handhelds.org/scap/land.6043.png |
| 19:55.43 | koen|tv | ~lart scrollkeeper and cross compiles |
| 19:56.30 | florian | I tried to compile natively in Scratchbox using OE today. That doesn't seem to work :-( |
| 19:57.38 | Philippe | florian, does an hildon app need to be installed in some way before it starts behaving? |
| 19:58.07 | Philippe | gpe-mini-browser starts and works as it should. I only have nasty thick borders around it. |
| 19:59.10 | Philippe | The non-ported version actually behaves better. |
| 20:03.24 | florian | Philippe: hmm usually not, but maybe the theme settings are not complete. |
| 20:03.50 | florian | Philippe: try "run-standalone.sh gpe-mini-browser" |
| 20:03.50 | Philippe | might be that. How do I force those? |
| 20:04.22 | Philippe | Ah. Now it looks good :-) |
| 20:04.43 | florian | osso-screenshot-tool is your friend :-) |
| 20:04.51 | florian | brb |
| 20:05.02 | Philippe | I tried, but it took a screenshot of my consol :-( |
| 20:11.09 | Philippe | damn, my toolbar is screwed up now, and the html widget is not showing anymore !? |
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| 20:17.31 | sageLin | bye |
| 20:17.45 | sageLin | fido&linux-4ever |
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| 20:23.18 | mimecar | hi |
| 20:23.44 | Philippe | hi mimecar |
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| 20:40.59 | koen|tv | I want gnome-office on my pda, damnit |
| 20:55.27 | florian | re |
| 20:55.47 | florian | koen|tv: Wee... Gnumeric! |
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| 21:17.37 | fng_sma | I just tried my first tcp connection and it connected, but it didn't want to disconnect... :-( |
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| 21:21.52 | florian | fng_sma: :-/ |
| 21:22.28 | fng_sma | florian: but I'm pretty sure, tomorrow it will connect _and_ disconnect! |
| 21:22.55 | florian | fng_sma: rock! |
| 21:23.14 | koen|tv | woohoo |
| 21:23.17 | koen|tv | ~praise fng_sma |
| 21:23.17 | ibot | All hail fng_sma! |
| 21:23.29 | fng_sma | :-) I read almost the whole code of libnsqlc today. It was very interesting. |
| 21:23.59 | philippe_tv | good luck fng_sma |
| 21:24.00 | fng_sma | And I'm glad, I don't have to write it from scratch. |
| 21:24.13 | koen|tv | it will also mean I will have to make haste with adding opensync to OE |
| 21:25.32 | fng_sma | koen|tv: I hope it wont't be too big. |
| 21:26.22 | fng_sma | koen|tv: the installation on my computer is about 4 mb big. |
| 21:26.25 | koen|tv | opensync itself isn't big when we split out the plugins |
| 21:27.34 | koen|tv | mental note: mail doug turner about minimo |
| 21:27.43 | florian | brb |
| 21:28.25 | fng_sma | well, my concentration has gone. I'll try to find my bed and tomorrow will be a good day! Good night! |
| 21:28.34 | koen|tv | 'night fng_sma |
| 21:55.23 | florian | re |
| 21:56.40 | philippe_tv | Yes! gpe-mini-browser works decently in Maemo now! |
| 21:57.51 | philippe_tv | http://handhelds.org/~philippe/gpe-mini-browser-maemo.png |
| 21:59.24 | florian | philippe_tv: very nice! |
| 22:00.29 | florian | philippe_tv: Is the UI to use configurable at build time? |
| 22:02.23 | philippe_tv | yes. I just have one issue with the makefile to resolve. |
| 22:02.49 | philippe_tv | At link time it always includes the hildon and the normal file. |
| 22:04.07 | florian | philippe_tv: cool... i'll add a bb file for the maemo version to oe, then we have an open source browser for the oe-built maemo images! |
| 22:04.52 | philippe_tv | :-) |
| 22:08.15 | florian | philippe_tv: In the Makefile.am of gpe-contacts i set the SOURCES_gpe-contacts variable depending on the configuration setting. that seems to be "autotools-save". |
| 22:12.30 | philippe_tv | gpe_mini_browser_SOURCES = interface-calls.c loading-calls.c gpe-mini-browser.h misc-calls.c |
| 22:12.31 | philippe_tv | #ifdef HILDON |
| 22:12.31 | philippe_tv | gpe_mini_browser_SOURCES += hildon-mini-browser.c |
| 22:12.31 | philippe_tv | #else |
| 22:12.31 | philippe_tv | gpe_mini_browser_SOURCES += gpe-mini-browser.c |
| 22:12.31 | philippe_tv | #endif |
| 22:12.54 | philippe_tv | I did this, but it does not seem to work (I tried #if and #ifdef) |
| 22:14.36 | florian | Do you have this AM_CONDITIONAL(HILDON, test x$ENABLE_HILDON = xtrue) in configure.ac? |
| 22:15.11 | florian | After this you can use somply "if". |
| 22:15.13 | philippe_tv | AM_CONDITIONAL(HILDON, test x$ENABLE_HILDON = xtrue) |
| 22:15.17 | florian | s/somply/simply |
| 22:15.28 | philippe_tv | yes it is in there... |
| 22:17.33 | florian | maybe just clean up the autotools stuff and run autogen.sh again |
| 22:18.15 | koen|tv | philippe_tv: nice |
| 22:19.33 | koen|tv | at the risk for sounding like mallum: lose the quit button ;) |
| 22:20.59 | philippe_tv | koen : I will once I get fullscreen mode to work. |
| 22:23.19 | florian | heh |
| 22:24.57 | koen|tv | you could move the URL field down too, but that always confuses me |
| 22:25.22 | philippe_tv | I kept it there because that was clearer. Toolbars however get automatically placed there. |
| 22:25.59 | koen|tv | only one thing left: |
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| 22:26.18 | koen|tv | mail maemo-developers@maemo.org and add it to the wiki ;) |
| 22:26.44 | philippe_tv | First I need to get the autotools to generate a correct makefile... |
| 22:28.48 | florian | Yeah... it works for it. |
| 22:34.16 | philippe_tv | got it working now. |
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| 22:36.47 | koen | tigrux: do you know when miguel is supposed to contact me for gulev? |
| 22:37.32 | tigrux | koen: No idea :-( I haven't seen him online. |
| 22:38.06 | koen | I see |
| 22:42.54 | EnceloAMD | hi |
| 22:44.38 | koen | NOTE: package opensync-0.17-r0: task do_compile: started |
| 22:45.03 | koen | NOTE: package opensync-0.17: completed |
| 22:45.14 | koen | ~lart python and swig |
| 22:46.14 | koen | 192K deploy/ipk/opensync_0.17-r0_arm.ipk |
| 22:47.19 | florian | :-) |
| 22:47.25 | florian | very good! |
| 22:49.16 | EnceloAMD | why no one fixes the sdl libraries problem? is it so hard? :( |
| 22:50.13 | koen | it is so hard because Trolltech thought it would be nice to annoy the world with incompatible crap like qt/e |
| 22:51.03 | EnceloAMD | I think that in bb repository the problem is fixed... |
| 22:57.16 | EnceloAMD | mmm, I can't get the uptime... |
| 22:57.31 | EnceloAMD | uptime: couldn't get boot time: No such file or directory |
| 22:57.34 | EnceloAMD | strange |
| 23:02.37 | koen | 'night all |
| 23:03.45 | florian | koen|sleep: good night |
| 23:37.19 | philippe_tv | goodnight all |
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| 23:51.15 | florian | good night |
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