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| 06:18.43 | __law__ | osb-jscore build :-) |
| 06:32.38 | koen | Philippe: I made mini-browser the default in http://familiar.handhelds.org//snapshots/v0.8.3/20050719/, since minimo doesn't build |
| 06:40.39 | __law__ | Philippe, NOTE: package gpe-mini-browser-0.11: completed :-) |
| 06:48.39 | koen | Philippe: I suspect the --help will output 0.12 instead of the correct versions in mini-browser cvs |
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| 06:54.39 | florian_hrz | hi all |
| 06:54.48 | koen | hey florian_hrz |
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| 07:13.37 | koen | hey jsmanrique |
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| 07:20.50 | jsmanrique | hi |
| 07:27.41 | florian_hrz | hi jsmanrique |
| 07:28.44 | jsmanrique | I am practicing with docbook :( |
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| 07:37.19 | Nermal | ellooo :) |
| 07:37.25 | Nermal | is gaim available for the ipaq / gpe ? |
| 07:37.30 | koen | yes |
| 07:37.34 | koen | ipkg install gaim |
| 07:37.37 | __law__ | koen, does download map via expedia work for you? in gpsdrive |
| 07:37.49 | koen | it did yesterday |
| 07:37.50 | Philippe | hello koen |
| 07:37.58 | Philippe | That is good news :-) |
| 07:39.11 | Philippe | Normally you should have the latest version that is in cvs if the bb file gets a gpe-mini-browser-0.11.tar.bz2 from stag.mind.be |
| 07:39.33 | Philippe | I forgot however to bump the version number that is in the output of the browser.... |
| 07:41.05 | Philippe | __law__, Good news for you too :-) Tell me tonight what the problem was. |
| 07:43.36 | florian_hrz | brb |
| 07:44.32 | __law__ | koen, so you can get maps? |
| 07:45.10 | koen | __law__: how do you mean? |
| 07:45.57 | __law__ | koen, there is an download map function, http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/images/gpsdrive2.png :-) |
| 07:46.15 | koen | yes, that funtion works |
| 07:47.02 | __law__ | i have tryed it some days ago via gprs but that doesnt work :-( i will try it today with pre3 |
| 07:47.25 | koen | djeez |
| 07:47.32 | koen | the gpsdrive people are on crack: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.10116.png |
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| 07:52.25 | alan_ | hello gentlemen ! |
| 08:09.32 | alan_ | i use GPE on my zaurus c750 running openzaurus 3.5.4pre. There might be a bug in ttf-bitstream-vera : abiword segfaults when trying to use Italic font. This problem can be solved using dejavu fonts (makes the Z reaaaally much more readable). But if i use this font, then reading in the terminal is difficult ad i can't change the font used in terminal in "gpe-conf theme". Is there a way to change this font ? |
| 08:10.09 | koen | vi ~/.XDefaults |
| 08:10.29 | koen | or .Xdefaults |
| 08:10.35 | XorA | koen: .Xdefaults doesnt work on gpe due to no cpp to run xrdb |
| 08:10.52 | koen | XorA: ehm, guess again |
| 08:11.12 | koen | gpe-conf modifies that file and it works for rxvt |
| 08:11.38 | XorA | koen: hrmm, not on my build :-( Ill have to look at that |
| 08:12.20 | XorA | I had to edit the xtermwrapper.sh script |
| 08:13.02 | XorA | anyway I need to do IT stuff, look at it later |
| 08:13.39 | koen | maybe openzaurus looks in /root/Settings for that ;) |
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| 08:20.17 | florian_hrz | re |
| 08:30.47 | florian_hrz | bbl |
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| 08:51.49 | alan_ | i'm having a look at the map file. what do the "compose" lines refer to ? |
| 08:52.03 | alan_ | oups... sorry, wrong chan... |
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| 09:00.22 | florian_kc | re |
| 09:01.00 | koen | hey florian_kc |
| 09:03.13 | __law__ | koen, there is a complete new "maps fetch script" in pre3 perhabs this will work |
| 09:03.16 | __law__ | for me |
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| 09:45.42 | florian_kc | hey pb_ |
| 09:50.22 | pb_ | florian_kc: hello! |
| 09:50.27 | pb_ | and welcome back |
| 09:50.42 | florian_kc | pb_: thanks! |
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| 09:56.19 | pb_ | hehe, that old problem |
| 09:57.48 | florian_kc | yeah... |
| 10:03.23 | koen | hey pb_ |
| 10:03.51 | koen | florian_kc: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.10116.png *sigh* |
| 10:04.33 | florian_kc | koen: uhh! Ist this the latest one?! |
| 10:04.48 | koen | that's with the 2.10pre3 snapshot |
| 10:05.17 | florian_kc | ~lart Gpsdrive developers for breaking PDA mode again |
| 10:05.50 | koen | I've sent a mail to the gpsdrive list, but it hasn't surfaced on the archives yet |
| 10:06.04 | koen | and it *still* doesn't work with a recent gpsd |
| 10:07.06 | florian_kc | hrm... |
| 10:07.42 | florian_kc | nasty... i fixed that PDA mode UI a long time ago, but hacking gpsdrive is a major pain. |
| 10:10.17 | pb_ | hi koen |
| 10:13.49 | florian_kc | hmm that would be nice... |
| 10:15.49 | florian_kc | hrm... the cpu usage of monotone is really incredible... |
| 10:20.05 | koen | florian_kc: mickeyl and I get payed by intel and amd to support monotone ;) |
| 10:21.38 | florian_kc | koen: heh |
| 10:28.50 | koen | XorA: you could try osb-browser on your Z |
| 10:29.24 | XorA | koen: Im running gpe-mini-browser a lot these days |
| 10:29.50 | koen | same here |
| 10:30.04 | koen | the speed of it is stunning |
| 10:31.15 | XorA | koen: need to wait for firefox compile to finish before I can install osb-browser |
| 10:33.24 | koen | http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=$lat,$long&spn=2,2&t=k |
| 10:33.31 | koen | oops, wrong window |
| 10:37.51 | XorA | koen: hmm, cant build osb-browser |
| 10:37.53 | pb_ | florian_kc: yah, it does seem to take roughly forever to check out a new monotone tree |
| 10:39.02 | florian_kc | pb_: I'm currently pulling the changes from the last 8 days... it is working for about one hour on a 1,4GHz machine new :-/ |
| 10:40.03 | XorA | koen: ah is ok, bloody libtool |
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| 11:08.53 | pb_ | florian_kc: yeah. I remember when I first checked out, it took at least a couple of hours on an athlon XP3200+. |
| 11:24.11 | florian_kc | I'll try to make the SGI 540 work in the meantime. |
| 11:55.21 | koen | http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/pda/files/client.c works |
| 11:55.47 | koen | now I need a panel applet where I can copy/paste code from |
| 11:57.09 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 11:57.49 | XorA | koen: I have osb-browser finally :-) |
| 11:57.54 | koen | XorA: cheers! |
| 11:58.35 | XorA | koen: so wassup |
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| 12:07.49 | koen | the new gpsd even support changing the gps device in the fly |
| 12:12.32 | koen | or lock florian_kc in a room with a gps and anjuta |
| 12:40.05 | __law__ | audio doesnt work on my Z is this because i have activated gpe-sound-server? |
| 12:40.20 | __law__ | mplayer audio :-) |
| 12:40.52 | __law__ | in gxine it works |
| 12:44.27 | XorA | __law__: mplayer -ao oss -ac mad |
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| 13:03.53 | alan_ | what package provides libx11-6 ? |
| 13:04.37 | koen | alan_: try http://ipkgfind.handhelds.org/ |
| 13:04.45 | univac | uhh nokia 770 works on battery only 3h :( |
| 13:05.04 | koen | univac: have you actually tested it? |
| 13:05.13 | univac | no :) |
| 13:05.37 | univac | but i read |
| 13:07.32 | alan_ | koen: thanks, but i want to build it myself. I don't know what bb i should bitbake. |
| 13:07.45 | koen | ah |
| 13:07.55 | koen | you said packages, not recipe |
| 13:08.09 | alan_ | sorry. |
| 13:08.42 | koen | I'd guess it is xlibs |
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| 13:16.39 | alan_ | koen: xlibs is in nonworking/ ... |
| 13:17.02 | XorA | what needs libxx-6? |
| 13:17.08 | XorA | libX11-6 |
| 13:17.40 | alan_ | snes9x according to oz feed... |
| 13:17.57 | koen | XorA: virtually everything that needs X I'd say |
| 13:18.07 | koen | on a Z you'd want to use diet-x11 |
| 13:18.49 | alan_ | hehe... ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for snes9x: |
| 13:18.49 | alan_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:19.16 | koen | alan_: you'd better ask the OZ people where they put that |
| 13:21.00 | alan_ | koen: ok. |
| 13:21.07 | hrw|work | feed/x11? |
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| 14:39.25 | tommie | http://localhost.ruhr.de/~stefan/autor/pics/freex52005c.jpg :-) |
| 14:40.09 | XorA | bleh, wish I hadnt spoken now, sylpheed doesnt compile :-) |
| 14:41.15 | florian_kc | yep... that 2.0 beta in oe fails :-/ |
| 14:42.19 | florian_kc | tommie: small... but looks promising. |
| 14:43.10 | tommie | florian_kc: It's mostly "What's this Familiar, how do I get it on my PDA, and what can I do with it?" |
| 14:43.14 | tommie | nothing magic :-) |
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| 14:46.37 | florian_kc | tommie: cool |
| 14:47.27 | tommie | It's focused on GPE for now |
| 14:47.45 | tommie | perhaps I will write something about OPIE afterwards |
| 14:48.40 | koen | "qt/e stinks and perhibits you to run 90% software out there" |
| 14:49.47 | tommie | X11 is pretty cool |
| 14:50.06 | tommie | I tried using my ipaq as a wireless graphic tablet with gimp once :-) |
| 14:50.12 | tommie | it worked to some degree :-) |
| 14:50.57 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 14:55.12 | XorA | crap I guess whoever wrote that .bb had openssl installed |
| 14:59.45 | koen | I remember something about the old sylpheed being patches to use gnutls |
| 15:00.26 | koen | patched* |
| 15:00.38 | koen | pb_ or reenoo did that |
| 15:01.02 | XorA | koen: there are patches, but newer sylpheed uses some more functions which are in OpenSSL but not gnutls |
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| 15:34.25 | pb_ | XorA|gone: the gnutls in oe supports those functions |
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| 15:49.00 | mimecar | hi |
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| 16:15.19 | mimecar | hi florian_kc |
| 16:15.28 | florian_kc | hi mimecar |
| 16:15.35 | _law_ | koen, have your tryed to start gpsdrive from rxvt (looks different) latest gpsd also doesnt really work good with gpsdrive pre3 |
| 16:24.15 | koen | latest gpsd doesn't workt with anything that wants nmea |
| 16:24.27 | koen | use gpsdrive -p |
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| 17:09.45 | florian_kc | pb_: Do you know what is up with sylpheed in oe? |
| 17:14.52 | pb_ | florian_kc: no, what's wrong with it? |
| 17:21.36 | florian_kc | pb_: that 2.0 beta fails to compile. |
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| 17:21.43 | pb_ | oh dear |
| 17:21.54 | pb_ | I didn't know about that. I guess I can take a look. |
| 17:21.58 | pb_ | who added that file? |
| 17:22.48 | florian_kc | looks like someone copied it without changing the maintainer :-/ let me see... |
| 17:23.18 | pb_ | doh |
| 17:25.11 | florian_kc | hrm... do you know offhand how to get that information from monotone? |
| 17:26.42 | koen | monotone annotate iirc |
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| 17:35.08 | florian_kc | ah... well... looks like i need to sync first... |
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| 17:37.38 | marc__ | hi =) |
| 17:38.29 | marc__ | anyone has any experience with dell axim x5 ? I got one for one beer but display is just white |
| 17:38.43 | koen | marc__: zap is the X5 master |
| 17:39.12 | marc__ | ok, the one from the webpages I found (a bit outdated...) |
| 17:39.18 | marc__ | does he come here sometimes ? |
| 17:39.48 | koen | ~seen zap |
| 17:39.48 | ibot | zap <~zap@217.170.93.9> was last seen on IRC in channel #handhelds.org, 49d 19h 23m 49s ago, saying: '0x5c000000 is out of chip select areas'. |
| 17:39.53 | koen | ~seen zap_ |
| 17:39.53 | ibot | zap_ <~zap@p54A52983.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 42d 20h 54m 19s ago, saying: 'justin: how should i have told it not to update the /etc/init.d/openvpn'. |
| 17:40.12 | koen | florian_kc: koen@bitbake:~/OE/monotone/openembedded$ monotone --verbose complete revision b9180e6184a574c6b9c48ee5cb22926ff3ee3a3 |
| 17:40.15 | koen | b9180e6184a574c6b9c48ee5cb22926ff3ee3a3f law@openembedded.org 2005-07-19T11:27:55 |
| 17:40.57 | marc__ | koen: maybe he's on hollydays ;) thanks |
| 17:42.50 | koen | florian_kc: or monotone annotate packages/sylpheed/sylpheed_2.0.0beta6.bb | awk '{print $1}' | tail -n1 | sed s/:// | xargs monotone list certs |
| 17:43.09 | koen | if you like to use shell stuff |
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| 18:02.23 | marc__ | hi zap ! |
| 18:03.49 | florian_kc | koen: ahhhh thanks :-) |
| 18:03.55 | marc__ | zap: do you know if it is possible to install linux on an axim x5 without the display? |
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| 18:21.31 | zap | marc__: you won't be able to start kernel with haret |
| 18:22.20 | marc__ | zap: hmmm, so I need to get the display working... :/ |
| 18:22.26 | marc__ | zap: thanks |
| 18:22.57 | zap | besides, you won't be able to do much with it anyway |
| 18:23.17 | zap | sure, you can use it via ssh but I can't find a serious use for it |
| 18:23.26 | marc__ | fun :) |
| 18:23.30 | marc__ | i got it for a beer |
| 18:23.35 | zap | :) |
| 18:23.44 | zap | whats with the display? |
| 18:23.46 | florian_kc | bbl |
| 18:23.53 | zap | My display gets darker every day :( |
| 18:24.04 | marc__ | when i switch it on, it's white |
| 18:24.15 | zap | so backlight works |
| 18:24.21 | zap | but LCD doesn't |
| 18:24.44 | marc__ | ah right |
| 18:25.10 | zap | I think Dell meant their PDAs to be useable for about 1.5-2 years |
| 18:25.21 | zap | after that display dies, you want it or not |
| 18:25.33 | marc__ | nice :) |
| 18:25.47 | marc__ | maybe they have a self destruct timer inside |
| 18:25.49 | koen | sounds like all the dell hardware |
| 18:26.24 | marc__ | my laptop is 2,5 years |
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| 19:18.22 | florian | re |
| 19:18.28 | zecke_ | hi |
| 19:18.46 | florian | hi zecke_ |
| 19:28.56 | pb_ | florian: wb |
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| 19:34.38 | mimecar | hi |
| 19:35.41 | florian | hi mimecar |
| 19:36.09 | mimecar | good evening / nicght |
| 19:38.43 | mimecar | is there some page with information of gpe i18n ? |
| 19:39.03 | mimecar | I've download some locales, but i don't see translated apps |
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| 19:42.02 | marc__ | zap: when plugging the axim via USB, my ubuntu loaded some module to use the usb link as a serial link. If i use minicom to attach this link, I can see vertical lines on the screen... Can I conclude anything from that? :) |
| 19:42.58 | koen | that could be the "connecting....." dialog in wince |
| 19:44.20 | marc__ | ok :) so maybe it's still working inside |
| 19:44.53 | mimecar | marc__: you have the spirit of windows inside your axim |
| 19:45.37 | marc__ | mimecar: I'll call an exorcist |
| 19:45.47 | koen | marc__: install the wince versions of vnc |
| 19:45.55 | koen | activesync remote view or something |
| 19:46.20 | mimecar | marc__: you should use a hammer |
| 19:46.21 | pb_ | mimecar: you probably need to set your LANG |
| 19:46.23 | marc__ | hmmm, so I should try with wome windows... I'll try to find one =) |
| 19:46.40 | mimecar | I have try with login language selector |
| 19:46.40 | marc__ | s/wome/some/ |
| 19:46.52 | marc__ | koen: thanks for the advice |
| 19:47.14 | mimecar | pb_: is there on some configuration file ? |
| 19:47.25 | mimecar | I only download some locale files |
| 19:47.27 | pb_ | mimecar: for the language chooser in the login screen? |
| 19:47.32 | mimecar | yes |
| 19:47.35 | pb_ | yes |
| 19:47.46 | mimecar | i only get english |
| 19:48.01 | pb_ | mkdir -p /etc/gpe/locales; echo "Spanish es_ES" >/etc/gpe/locales/es_ES |
| 19:48.04 | mimecar | I have installe locale-base-es (I think that's the name) |
| 19:48.07 | pb_ | or some such, depending on your language of choice |
| 19:48.12 | mimecar | ok |
| 19:48.19 | mimecar | I will after dinner |
| 19:48.22 | mimecar | thanks pb_ |
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| 20:09.45 | mimecar | I have a partial port of gartoon icon theme into gpe |
| 20:10.23 | mimecar | if somebody wants test it or see some screenshots, tell me |
| 20:12.00 | mimecar | there are some screenshots on http://www.innerzaurus.com/CMS/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=40&Itemid=40 |
| 20:17.23 | florian | mimecar: that looks pretty cool! |
| 20:18.01 | mimecar | background is a sample |
| 20:18.15 | mimecar | that's only an icon theme, |
| 20:18.35 | mimecar | there're a noia icon theme on other web |
| 20:18.40 | florian | mimecar: yep... but the combination looks good. |
| 20:19.18 | mimecar | background is draw by kagaya -> kagaya studio |
| 20:19.35 | mimecar | I can paste the link if you want, he has cool backgrounds |
| 20:20.06 | mimecar | http://www.kagayastudio.com/ |
| 20:20.20 | mimecar | it has many titles in english |
| 20:22.28 | _law_ | florian: whats your problem with slypheed 2? |
| 20:22.34 | mimecar | florian: I will post final version of gartoon icon theme next week |
| 20:22.41 | _law_ | have you installed gpgme 1.0.3 ? |
| 20:23.21 | florian | _law_: it failed to compile... it was missing some definion. |
| 20:23.45 | _law_ | florian: what failed gpgme or sylpheed? |
| 20:24.08 | florian | _law_: sylpheed |
| 20:24.20 | _law_ | build gpgme 1.0.3 before |
| 20:26.13 | florian | _law_: isn't this in the dependencies? |
| 20:26.50 | _law_ | i think there is only gpgme in the dependencies |
| 20:26.56 | _law_ | but not version 1.0.3 |
| 20:27.26 | florian | ah right... |
| 20:28.45 | florian | mimecar: hmm indeed... this guy seems to be quite good. |
| 20:30.20 | mimecar | some of his backgrounds look cool on small screens |
| 20:37.05 | _law_ | florian: is this right? DEPENDS = "gtk+ gpgme (>= 1.0.3) gnutls" |
| 20:40.39 | florian | _law_: not sure if bb evaluates this... |
| 20:40.53 | florian | s/not/i'm not |
| 20:41.38 | florian | _law_: even with a fresh built gpgme 1.0.3 i get: ssl.c:155: error: `X509_V_OK' undeclared |
| 20:42.10 | _philippe | florian : must be a problem with some crypto thing... |
| 20:42.43 | _philippe | I recently saw errors of that kind (+md5 errors) when they tried to merge openssl into the existing stuff at work |
| 20:43.53 | _law_ | florian: openssl and libssl is build |
| 20:43.53 | florian | yeah... i wonder why this doesn't happen for everyone. iirc XorA|gone suffered from the same issue. |
| 20:44.10 | _philippe | libtool? |
| 20:44.49 | florian | no... that's a compiler error - and we should use the same versions in this case. |
| 20:44.54 | _law_ | i can try to build i from scratch over night |
| 20:45.51 | florian | _law_: it just builds a new version of openssl... |
| 20:46.20 | florian | _law_: btw. you should change the MAINTAINER in that sylpheed bb. |
| 20:46.32 | _law_ | florian: ok |
| 20:47.02 | florian | pb_ didn't even know about this version in oe :-) |
| 20:47.23 | _law_ | changed |
| 20:54.20 | florian | _law_: good... but even with latest openssl it fails. |
| 20:54.51 | _law_ | florian: i will try to build it from scratch over night |
| 20:55.28 | florian | _law_: okay |
| 20:55.39 | florian | i could do the same :-) |
| 20:58.05 | florian | its in debian... |
| 20:58.35 | _philippe | I know. I am just hesitant to "break" the current working OE build I have |
| 20:58.42 | pb_ | florian: I think you ought to be using gnutls for sylpheed, not openssl. |
| 20:58.50 | pb_ | at least, that's what we always used to use. |
| 21:00.18 | florian | hmm right... that should be up to date, its lieted in the dependencies. |
| 21:01.10 | pb_ | it might be bad news to build both gnutls and openssl. |
| 21:01.18 | pb_ | I have a feeling they will overwrite each others' headers. |
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| 21:02.35 | nickv111 | Is there an easy way to build all the packages that would be in the default jffs2 file on an x86 platform? |
| 21:02.54 | nickv111 | It seems tiring to go through every single directory and build every little package |
| 21:03.16 | pb_ | bitbake gpe-image |
| 21:03.18 | mimecar | I think you must compile esential dependences first |
| 21:03.37 | nickv111 | Well, I want to compile it for x86 |
| 21:03.42 | nickv111 | Not crosscompiling |
| 21:03.44 | pb_ | bitbake can build for x86. |
| 21:03.48 | nickv111 | Oh, good |
| 21:04.46 | mimecar | pb_: you some programas before, aren't you? |
| 21:04.55 | mimecar | or bitbake download compiler and library? |
| 21:05.10 | pb_ | mimecar: bitbake builds the compiler and libraries. |
| 21:05.31 | mimecar | I download cvs some weeks ago |
| 21:05.49 | mimecar | without dependeces? |
| 21:06.00 | nickv111 | pb_: Where should I be to run that? In the gpe source? |
| 21:06.20 | pb_ | bbl, watching tv for a bit |
| 21:06.25 | florian | nickv111: you can use the "netvista" platform to play around, it's an x86 machine. |
| 21:07.19 | florian | mimecar: bitbake builds whatever you need automatically. |
| 21:07.53 | mimecar | ie, you can modify some source code and compile automatically for zaurus or familiar ? |
| 21:08.27 | _philippe | hmm, I feel a need to fix something in GPE. Ant outstanding bugs that are annoying somebody? |
| 21:08.46 | mimecar | _philippe: I have one |
| 21:08.56 | mimecar | or twho |
| 21:09.06 | _philippe | mimecar : great, what are you thinking of... |
| 21:09.13 | mimecar | today app |
| 21:09.28 | mimecar | if you write some todos (on todo app) |
| 21:09.43 | mimecar | there's a moment todos blink |
| 21:09.56 | mimecar | up some pixels and return to their original position |
| 21:10.10 | mimecar | I must kill app (it doesn't close) |
| 21:10.39 | florian | mimecar: in theory yes... but usually you want to use oe to build images/packages after a new release. |
| 21:10.57 | mimecar | florian: ok |
| 21:11.13 | _philippe | mimecar : how can I reproduce that? |
| 21:11.15 | mimecar | I would like play with some apps source code |
| 21:11.37 | mimecar | _philippe: I will test tomorrow |
| 21:11.44 | mimecar | and I'll said you steps |
| 21:12.00 | florian | _philippe: well... worst case there is hh.org bugzilla - search for gpe there :-) |
| 21:12.18 | mimecar | I don't know if that bugs is in bugzilla |
| 21:12.32 | mimecar | _philippe: I have another (and reproduceble) |
| 21:12.44 | florian | right... but that's an easy point to start if you want to fix something :-) |
| 21:12.58 | _philippe | florian : Well I get some stuff out of there, but also a lot of bugs are soooo old... Not reproducable anymore, fixed, but I cannot close them. My bugzilla account does not allow that. |
| 21:13.41 | florian | _philippe: ah... tell me, imho i'm allowed to do this. |
| 21:13.43 | _law_ | Philippe: gpe-mini-browser dosent work with www.openzaurus.org |
| 21:14.12 | florian | _law_: OZ and Familiar are not binary compatible... |
| 21:14.21 | _philippe | _law_ : it probabely uses floating point. Which is not support by OZ |
| 21:15.10 | _philippe | _law_ : are it the binary packages or the ones you compiled yourself? |
| 21:15.39 | _law_ | Philippe: i mean the homepage http://www.openzaurus.org doesnt work for me :-) |
| 21:15.49 | mimecar | Philippe: light applet, level bar doesn't appear above applet, it move to the top and right of the screen |
| 21:16.50 | _philippe | mimecar : indeed that is one that should be fixed... |
| 21:17.16 | mimecar | another visual bug |
| 21:17.43 | mimecar | clock is not show complete |
| 21:17.57 | mimecar | initially you see the half clock |
| 21:18.45 | florian | That floating window bug seems to be related to matchbox... it might be fixed with upstream matchbox. |
| 21:19.05 | _philippe | florian : about the bugzilla. Do you know who I should ask to give me full bugzilla access? |
| 21:20.00 | florian | _philippe: hmm.. good question, i wonder who gave me the power to do this... france or france_ might be able to do this. |
| 21:20.49 | florian | i'll fix some bugs in gpe-filemanager now... |
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| 21:25.20 | nickv111 | Hmm |
| 21:25.29 | nickv111 | bitbake gpe-image isn't working |
| 21:25.39 | nickv111 | ERROR: Nothing provides gpe-image |
| 21:25.48 | nickv111 | ERROR: no files to build. |
| 21:26.02 | florian | nickv111: looks like your oe setup is wrong... |
| 21:26.13 | nickv111 | florian: All I did was install bitbake |
| 21:26.15 | pb_ | _philippe: jamey would be your man for enhanced bugzilla privs |
| 21:26.18 | nickv111 | florian: Not oe |
| 21:26.25 | nickv111 | florian: Do I need all of oe? |
| 21:26.38 | _philippe | pb_ : thanks. I'll mail him. |
| 21:26.51 | florian | nickv111: ah... yes, oe contains all the magic about the single packages. |
| 21:42.35 | _philippe | while awaiting france's answer: bugs that can be closed : 1044, 1363 |
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| 21:52.10 | florian | _philippe: sure about 1044? iirc that was still present some time ago. |
| 21:52.18 | _philippe | bugs to close because too old and not relevant anymore or maybe fixed: 44, 121, 252, 282, 302, 337, 488, 533 |
| 21:52.49 | _philippe | florian : Yes, I fixed some include stuff about two weeks ago + added a patch from bedboi. I cannot reproduce it anymore anyway. |
| 21:53.35 | florian | _philippe: sounds good... |
| 21:57.36 | _philippe | florian : Just tried it again. No crash. Probabely had something to do with the implicit declaration of memset and strlen functions. See check-ins : 265, 266 & 267 |
| 21:59.38 | florian | _philippe: great.... sounds like we should make a new release soon :-) |
| 22:00.34 | koen | anyone interested in a panel applet that interfaces with gpsd and saves fixes in an sqlite db? |
| 22:00.39 | _philippe | florian : gpe-nmf is far from completely working though... especially if you try to add files it is annoying that the gui eats half of the screen. |
| 22:02.13 | _philippe | I would call it use-able. Reenoo is making a muin look-a-like though to replace it. |
| 22:02.57 | florian | koen: sounds interesting... i currently don't know what to do with it but it might be useful some time. |
| 22:03.50 | florian | _philippe: yes indeed... either gpe-nmf needs some care or we should replaye it with some other simple audio player. |
| 22:04.06 | koen | florian: "click to open location in browser -> googlemaps" |
| 22:04.13 | koen | and a cheap track logger |
| 22:04.29 | florian | yeah |
| 22:05.06 | koen | the "interfaces with gpsd" part is done |
| 22:05.23 | koen | and I'm butchering mb-applet-battery.c for the applet part |
| 22:06.13 | florian | koen: maybe look at minilite... that's better gtk code iirc. |
| 22:07.02 | florian | Making gpe-clock transparent would be another nice thing to fix. |
| 22:07.38 | koen | is the whole of gpe up to speed with cairo 0.5? |
| 22:09.42 | florian | no idea... i don't think so. imho only libgpewidget and gpe-bootsplash use it. |
| 22:09.56 | koen | and gpe-appmgr |
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| 22:10.10 | pb_ | florian: unfortunately, making gpe-clock transparent is extraordinarily difficult |
| 22:12.02 | florian | koen: right... i forgot |
| 22:12.41 | koen | and rosetta |
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| 22:13.29 | florian | pb_: hmmm indeed... i see the point. without real transparency that might be a major pain. |
| 22:13.48 | koen | gpe-compmgr |
| 22:14.27 | florian | koen: really? i had im mind that it is mostly pure xlib. |
| 22:14.57 | koen | if you have ARGB windows and stuff you could pull it off |
| 22:15.40 | koen | *if* we knew where that composite bug is hiding |
| 22:15.54 | koen | 'night all |
| 22:16.07 | _philippe | night koen |
| 22:17.23 | florian | koen|sleep: good night |
| 22:24.52 | _philippe | another list of to-be-verified and maybe closed bugs : 549, 564, 616, 622, 640, 668, 692, 780, 785, 916 |
| 22:28.02 | _philippe | florian : how hard is the sqlite interfacing? Would it be a good idea to add a contacts/gpe-mini-browser intergrated bookmark storage? |
| 22:30.32 | florian | _philippe: oh well... that's a long one. |
| 22:31.47 | _philippe | the bug list to check is indeed long :-) But it would make it much easier to track what has to be done in the bugzilla. Unless you mean that my last idea is going to be very complex. |
| 22:31.54 | florian | _philippe: hmm... maybe filemanager and browser :-) sqlite is pretty easy. basically you can pass a sql command as a string and get a callback for each line returned or a table of strings. |
| 22:32.22 | florian | _philippe: yes right.. |
| 22:33.13 | _philippe | florian : even more insane. filemanager, browser and contacts... (contacts for the home pages of the people/organisations in your contact list) |
| 22:35.13 | florian | _philippe: hmm... you mean to have a collection of this urls as a section of special bookmarks in the browser? that would rock! |
| 22:36.08 | _philippe | Yes, that was more or less the idea. But I had/have no clue on how to use sqlite. (and I definitely need to make it easy to leave that option out. |
| 22:37.32 | pb_ | Why do you think bug 818 should be moved to won't-fix? |
| 22:37.38 | florian | _philippe: it's really easy... |
| 22:38.59 | _philippe | pb_ : Well the bug is about 2 years old, and the problem lies clearly with touchscreen/ui limitations. |
| 22:39.28 | _philippe | Or we should make some sort of long-term wish list to add similar items to it. |
| 22:39.55 | pb_ | Well, that's what bugzilla is. |
| 22:40.03 | pb_ | The bug isn't any less valid for being 2 years old and UI related. |
| 22:40.04 | florian | i don't think so... this one should be fixed some time.. |
| 22:40.37 | florian | i must admit that it is unlikely that this might happen soon. |
| 22:41.31 | _philippe | Ok, maybe we just need to add some extra comment to it to make clear what the plans are. Like will be fixed if ever anybody gets time to do so... may take a long time. |
| 22:42.43 | pb_ | I think that's implicitly true of all the outstanding bugs. There isn't really any point in adding a comment saying that. |
| 22:42.48 | pb_ | back in a bit |
| 22:42.54 | zecke_ | good nite |
| 22:43.00 | zecke_ | pb_: you're in ottawa? |
| 22:43.03 | _philippe | night zecke_ |
| 22:43.09 | pb_ | zecke_: no, I am still in Cambridge |
| 22:43.12 | _philippe | have a nice dinner pb_ |
| 22:43.18 | zecke_ | yeah have a nice dinner |
| 22:49.59 | _philippe | "<pb_> I think that's implicitly true of all the outstanding bugs." I believe it is unclear to most users. And I must say I have a tendency to go down hard on bugs. If it takes 2+ years to get something fixed and there are no plans to fix it soon I tend to put it on won't fix so that the initiative moves to the ones that want it fixed. |
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| 22:52.49 | florian | its really not that easy to deal with old bugs on bugzilla... and it is even more compilcated if the component isn't actively maintained anymore. |
| 22:56.41 | _philippe | true, but IMHO it makes no sense to keep them open like that. Especially if they are more than 3 years old. Leaving them open only adds confusion. It would maybe be useful to move outdated, not anymore used and unmainted stuff with their bugs to a seperate archive. |
| 22:59.02 | florian | the best solution would be to have a special category/status for this and add these bugs/packages to a wiki page. |
| 23:01.08 | florian | or better: fix all present bugs to make bugzilla become this list of old bugs ;-) |
| 23:02.14 | _philippe | Well some bugs I mentioned could fit in that category. |
| 23:03.13 | _philippe | I'll post the list I made on the mailing list and then see what to do with each bug. |
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| 23:09.27 | pb_ | okay, posting a list is fine. But please do not close any bugs as WONTFIX without checking with me or florian. |
| 23:10.09 | pb_ | I feel quite strongly that we should not be marking bugs as WONTFIX just because we have failed to fix them within some amount of time. |
| 23:12.05 | pb_ | as for your comment about it being "unclear to most users" that bugs will get fixed when anybody has time to do so, I am a little bit startled that these users would expect it to be any other way. |
| 23:12.33 | pb_ | after all, they are not paying for bugs to be fixed, nor do we make any promise to fix them within any particular time period. |
| 23:13.12 | _philippe | pb_ : ok fine. I was not planning on closing them or moving them to won´t fix on my own initiative. I am not the one running the project or responsable for handling those bugs. |
| 23:14.20 | pb_ | righto |
| 23:22.30 | molivier | does someone have already got this error with gpe_load_icons: GPE-ERROR: Failed to open file '/usr/share/gpe/pixmaps/default/? ??.png (invalid encoding) |
| 23:28.54 | florian | with which application does this happen? |
| 23:32.56 | molivier | florian, one i made myself - but i already use gpe_load_icons in other of my apps with no such problem |
| 23:34.33 | florian | molivier: ah... looks like your icons list you pass isn't correct. are you maybe missing a terminating NULL or something like this? |
| 23:36.56 | molivier | florian, shame on me ;) that's true ! i forget this stupid NULL !! |
| 23:37.03 | molivier | florian, thanks |
| 23:37.30 | florian | molivier: yw... i did this more than one time so it is a well known effect to me ;-) |
| 23:37.53 | florian | *yawn* |
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| 23:49.58 | _philippe | night all |
