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| 07:28.46 | krokas | hi. A question. When you create a program for iPaq, which ARM standard do you support? - ARM V.5 ? |
| 07:30.17 | krokas | I mean x86 is the lowest CPU for a PC, but no one support it anymore. We usuallly support 386. What CPU is a 386 for iPaq? |
| 07:32.07 | krokas | Or more specially. Which ARM CPU do you expect .NET for GPE should support? |
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| 08:39.59 | pb_ | krokas: ARMv4, ideally. |
| 08:40.48 | pb_ | If you particularly need ARMv5, we can talk about that. It'll mean that the code won't run on the older ipaqs, though. |
| 08:41.40 | pb_ | hi zap |
| 08:42.23 | zap | hi pb |
| 08:50.00 | krokas | pb_ And what iPaq would you recommend as a testbench? |
| 08:51.02 | krokas | The ARMv5 seems to have a special instruction set for Java support |
| 08:51.31 | pb_ | krokas: h3900 or h5500, probably, but almost any model should be fine. |
| 08:52.22 | pb_ | The Java stuff is part of ARMv5EJ, which isn't supported by the cpu in any current ipaq (although the Nokia 770, for example, does have that). |
| 08:53.43 | krokas | I'm reading now the ARM7TDMI-S Data Sheet, is that one a standard ARMv4 ? |
| 08:54.24 | krokas | I mean is the info in this Data Sheet applicable for all ARMv4 ? |
| 08:54.30 | pb_ | Nearly. That's ARMv4T. |
| 08:54.54 | pb_ | If you ignore the Thumb parts, yes, it should be applicable to all v4. |
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| 08:55.16 | krokas | How is a ARMv4L different? |
| 08:55.44 | florian | good morning |
| 08:55.47 | pb_ | There's no such thing as ARMv4L. |
| 08:55.51 | pb_ | florian: good morning! |
| 08:56.36 | pb_ | "armv4l" is used as a cpu type by some GNU software; the "l" just means "little endian" there. |
| 08:56.59 | krokas | yes, armv4I, i mean |
| 08:58.18 | krokas | Well, how is it code different from a armv4? |
| 08:58.27 | pb_ | Not at all. |
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| 09:00.14 | Philippe | moring people |
| 09:00.30 | krokas | pb_ : On gpe-sdk-20050210. Is it enough for all the needs i might have? |
| 09:00.32 | florian | hey Philippe |
| 09:00.35 | Philippe | s/moring/morning/ |
| 09:00.45 | Philippe | hello florian |
| 09:02.34 | pb_ | krokas: I'm not sure. I think florian knows more about the SDK than I do. |
| 09:02.39 | pb_ | hi Philippe |
| 09:02.52 | Philippe | hi pb_ |
| 09:04.13 | krokas | florian? |
| 09:04.19 | florian | krokas: It should contain almost everything you need, some of the libraries are not really up to date but if you need the latest ones you can always use the sdk itself to build them. |
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| 09:04.51 | florian | krokas: if you use libtool you should remove the *.la files from it. |
| 09:04.59 | florian | s/it/the sdk |
| 09:06.21 | krokas | And as i understand there is a good iPaq emulator, right? |
| 09:06.39 | krokas | a software emulator i mean |
| 09:06.52 | florian | I should build a new one... but that will need to wait. |
| 09:07.12 | florian | krokas: That depends... what do you want to emulate? |
| 09:07.36 | krokas | I need to emulate the ARM instructions |
| 09:07.50 | krokas | Not the environment - the code |
| 09:08.28 | krokas | You know, to test the code generated be the software |
| 09:08.53 | krokas | by the interpreter |
| 09:09.05 | krokas | unroller, JIT, etc |
| 09:09.08 | pb_ | Well, there's ARMware, but I've never tried it. |
| 09:09.29 | pb_ | and skyeye, I guess |
| 09:09.43 | Philippe | http://www.csie.ntu.edu.tw/~r88052/ARMware/en/index.php |
| 09:09.45 | pb_ | You might be better off using a real ipaq than an emulator. |
| 09:09.57 | Philippe | However I really don't know if it is any good. |
| 09:10.25 | krokas | Yes, byt it would need to by one myself, first :) |
| 09:10.45 | krokas | to get one |
| 09:11.05 | pb_ | George might be able to send you one. |
| 09:11.44 | krokas | George, who is George? |
| 09:11.51 | pb_ | George France. He's your mentor, right? |
| 09:12.01 | krokas | Yes, |
| 09:12.15 | florian | krokas: An onld h38xx or h39xx should be ok. |
| 09:12.38 | krokas | yep |
| 09:13.24 | krokas | Well, do you think he really can send me one? |
| 09:15.04 | krokas | Well, ok, i will write he a letter |
| 09:15.07 | pb_ | I don't know, but it's possible. Send a note to the summer-administrators list, or to George directly, explaining that you need a machine to test with. |
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| 09:21.06 | florian | What was this magic to tell OE to use a special compiler prefix for a kernel? |
| 09:22.05 | pb_ | I don't think you can do it with a prefix, only a suffix. |
| 09:24.07 | pb_ | I guess it would be easy enough to add support for a prefix in the same way, though. Have a look at kernel.bbclass, where it mentions KERNEL_CCSUFFIX. |
| 09:25.11 | florian | hrm... right.... i'm confused... it's too early in the morning. |
| 09:25.25 | florian | s/prefix/suffix |
| 09:26.01 | florian | That's KERNEL_CCSUFFIX, right? |
| 09:27.16 | pb_ | yup |
| 09:28.59 | florian | Looks like the omap1 kernel doesn't like to be compiled with latest default gcc. |
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| 09:30.02 | _law_ | hi |
| 09:30.40 | florian | hi _law_ |
| 09:40.53 | _law_ | any ideas? http://pastebin.com/306748 |
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| 09:43.36 | florian | _law_: that looks like i might be guilty... |
| 09:43.39 | _krokas | Ok, thanks everyone for the info |
| 09:43.51 | pb_ | heh |
| 09:44.00 | _law_ | florian: :-) |
| 10:00.11 | florian | For some reason it seems to work fine if i do it on my local pc. |
| 10:02.01 | florian | I need to get my local oe build again... |
| 10:02.35 | pb_ | florian: you're missing a trailing slash on the second-to-last "fi" line |
| 10:02.59 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:02.59 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:02.59 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:02.59 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:02.59 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:03.33 | pb_ | I'm not sure why that would be working for you. Maybe your version of make does things differently. |
| 10:03.59 | florian | uh! |
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| 10:06.10 | florian | I see... |
| 10:08.47 | florian | no.. hell! |
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| 10:22.54 | florian | Our main server at UnixAG died this night... now one of my machines reported a temperature problem - i guess we lost air condition in this room. |
| 10:26.44 | florian | pb_: I can't say why it i s working here... the \ is definitely missing here too. |
| 10:26.47 | florian | s/is/was |
| 10:34.44 | pb_ | florian: very strange |
| 10:35.34 | florian | pb_: I' seem to suffer from several strange effects. :-( |
| 10:36.32 | _krokas | florian, pb_ Do you remember france email? (i don't have his email now near myself) |
| 10:36.40 | pb_ | _krokas: france@handhelds.org |
| 10:36.42 | florian | That linux-omap1 package fails to build because it can't find a defconfig file which it is searching in a wrong directory. |
| 10:37.32 | pb_ | florian: oh dear |
| 10:38.26 | pb_ | fwiw, oe will search in several directories for the defconfig, but I think it only reports "no such file" for the last one. |
| 10:39.18 | pb_ | so, the fact that it appears to be looking in a strange location is not necessarily cause for alarm. |
| 10:39.52 | florian | pb_: file://defconfig means to search in ${PN}-${PV}, ${PN}, and ./files. |
| 10:40.19 | florian | And in ${MACHINE} in these directories. |
| 10:40.40 | pb_ | right |
| 10:41.37 | florian | hah! |
| 10:42.27 | florian | Someone made the installation of that file and the oldconfig call depend on the machine. |
| 10:43.20 | pb_ | ! |
| 10:46.19 | florian | hmm... that would be a bug, but it takes the file from WORKDIR... |
| 10:48.39 | pb_ | oe copies the file to WORKDIR during do_unpack. |
| 10:49.17 | florian | yeah... and that is what fails. |
| 10:50.25 | pb_ | how odd |
| 10:50.35 | pb_ | can you paste the bitbake output here? |
| 10:51.16 | florian | yep |
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| 10:54.41 | florian | hrm... why is this output still german :-/ |
| 10:54.52 | pb_ | heh |
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| 10:55.27 | pb_ | it's probably cached your LANG setting. use "bitbake -b <bbfile>" to avoid that. |
| 10:55.38 | mimecar | hi |
| 10:55.39 | florian | okay :-) |
| 10:55.46 | florian | hi mimecar |
| 10:55.53 | mimecar | hi florian |
| 10:56.37 | florian | NOTE: Unpacking /mnt/bdisk/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/files/defconfig to /mnt/bdisk/oe/build_nokia770/work/linux-omap1-2.6.12-r2/ |
| 10:56.37 | florian | cp: cannot stat `/mnt/bdisk/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/files/defconfig': No such file or directory |
| 10:57.17 | florian | The file is there: |
| 10:57.20 | florian | /mnt/bdisk/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/linux-omap1-2.6.12-rc2/nokia770/defconfig |
| 10:57.48 | florian | and the bb is linux-omap1_2.6.12_rc2.bb |
| 10:58.09 | pb_ | and your MACHINE is nokia770, right? |
| 10:58.58 | pb_ | does the .bb file do anything funny with FILESPATH? |
| 10:59.16 | florian | Right... and there is a defconfig for omap5912osk in linux-omap1-2.6.12-rc2/map5912osk. |
| 10:59.19 | florian | hmm |
| 10:59.56 | florian | no |
| 11:00.31 | pb_ | that does seem very strange, then. |
| 11:00.51 | pb_ | you might be able to use the bitbake shell thing to find out what value of FILESPATH is actually being used. |
| 11:01.08 | pb_ | I have no idea how to do that, though. you'd have to sweet-talk mickeyl into explaining it. |
| 11:01.14 | florian | hmm okay... |
| 11:01.28 | florian | mickeyl: Do you have some seconds for me? |
| 11:02.11 | pb_ | actually, I guess "bitbake -c showdata -b <bbfile>" would work as well |
| 11:03.16 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 11:04.12 | florian | oops... okay, FILESPATH is long... |
| 11:04.28 | pb_ | yeah, it will be a monstrous string. |
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| 11:04.47 | mickeyl | bitbake -i |
| 11:04.54 | mickeyl | getvar FILESPATH |
| 11:04.59 | pb_ | it expands to the cross product of ( PN, PN-PV, files ), and the whole of OVERRIDES. |
| 11:05.01 | mickeyl | or - for a specific package |
| 11:05.05 | mickeyl | peek nano FILESPATH |
| 11:05.51 | pb_ | ah right, that sounds easy enough |
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| 11:07.12 | mimecar | hi jsmanrique |
| 11:07.23 | jsmanrique | mimecar: hi |
| 11:07.55 | florian | Oh well |
| 11:09.19 | florian | I added a PR="r1" to that bb - the result seems to be that the "-rc2" gett stripped from the version and it starts to search in linux-omap1-2.6.12 instead of linux-omap1-2.6.12-rc2. |
| 11:10.10 | florian | Okay... how do i move a directory with monotone :-) |
| 11:10.54 | pb_ | oh, right, I misread the original filename |
| 11:11.02 | pb_ | I think -rc2 should be part of PV, not PR. |
| 11:11.24 | pb_ | <florian> and the bb is linux-omap1_2.6.12_rc2.bb |
| 11:11.31 | pb_ | you probably need to change that last _ to an - |
| 11:11.56 | florian | yeah... that might be the best way. |
| 11:16.57 | koen|ewi | good morning all |
| 11:17.58 | mimecar | hi koen|ewi |
| 11:18.48 | florian | hi koen|ewi |
| 11:21.18 | mickeyl | hey koen|ewi, how are things |
| 11:21.34 | mickeyl | koen|ewi: where the hell can i found getdiff.py? this script doesn't seem to exists on the planet |
| 11:21.40 | mickeyl | s/found/find/ |
| 11:22.16 | koen|ewi | for monotone? |
| 11:22.42 | mickeyl | koen|ewi: yeah. it's not in their source distribution |
| 11:22.45 | mickeyl | for viewmtn |
| 11:22.50 | mickeyl | oh and getfile.py is also missing |
| 11:22.56 | koen|ewi | isn't that just mt cat revision -r<1> -r<2>? |
| 11:23.06 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 11:23.10 | mickeyl | no idea, you're the expert :) |
| 11:23.14 | koen|ewi | you also could have a look at viewmtn |
| 11:23.18 | mickeyl | sounds like a good idea though |
| 11:23.30 | mickeyl | ya, i patched it already to show the manifest on a dedicated page |
| 11:26.20 | koen|ewi | lol |
| 11:26.40 | koen|ewi | mapquest thinks keywest is located next to france's PO box |
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| 11:30.03 | mimecar | xDDD |
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| 12:11.05 | pb_ | florian: heh, very good |
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| 12:47.18 | Jumbo | has anyone worked on .bb files over here ; need to ask some basic queries ? |
| 12:47.43 | Jumbo | regarding X Windows and matchbox which are in gpe-image of oe |
| 12:50.00 | florian | Jumbo: of course :-) |
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| 13:00.25 | Jumbo | i went through gpe-image .bb files; and just wanted an basic image which consists of x windows and matchbox, busybox. so i made 2 bb files and gave a bitbake when i got the filesystem i could not find my xserver and matchbox utilities. i dont know why. i have posted my files at : |
| 13:00.28 | Jumbo | http://pastebin.com/306802 |
| 13:01.39 | Jumbo | i know this is not the right forum to ask. since #oe guys are pretty busy with thier work. i have asked here. i am really struggling with the syntax. would appreciate any assistance. |
| 13:03.30 | florian_ | Jumbo: well... that's not a forum here, but let's try to find out whai is going on. |
| 13:04.09 | florian_ | Jumbo: basically the file don't look that bad... for which machine did you buils the image? |
| 13:04.22 | Jumbo | omap |
| 13:05.11 | Jumbo | i want a basic file system: with busybox, matchbox, x windows (framebuffer enabled) |
| 13:06.08 | florian_ | Jumbo: okay... there are several types of omap systems defined in oe. you need to set an existing definition in your local.conf |
| 13:07.13 | florian_ | Jumbo: I'm convinced you want the xserver-kdrive package. |
| 13:07.37 | Jumbo | i have done a basic image for my processor and tested it. its working fine. no issues. i want to customise it only want i want in the filesystem. |
| 13:08.37 | florian_ | okay... so you have your own machine config file ant set MACHINE to it? |
| 13:08.59 | florian_ | s/ant/and |
| 13:10.37 | Jumbo | i dont know what is xserver-kdrive package and what comes with it. i know i how to get a xserver ; virtual/xserver so i gave it in my file; i am not sure about that. |
| 13:12.06 | florian_ | okay... oe provides a normal x.org server and kdrive which is a small one for embedded use - that's the one we use on all the PDAs e.g. |
| 13:12.38 | florian_ | put something like PREFERRED_PROVIDER_xserver = "xserver-kdrive" in you local.conf or better to you machine config file. |
| 13:13.16 | Jumbo | i also have made a gpe-image and it is working fine. i think my conf is ok; not sure though ? |
| 13:14.44 | florian_ | iirc meta-gpe.bb or gpe-image.bb sets the provider for xserver to the default if noone is defined in another configfile. |
| 13:14.49 | florian_ | brb, food |
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| 13:20.58 | Jumbo | florian_: it is not in my local.conf file; in which file i have to search ? |
| 13:22.29 | Jumbo | i find it it is in my machine dir and it is as you said it there already ? |
| 13:24.25 | Jumbo | florian_: are you there ? |
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| 13:40.42 | Jumbo | florian_: ping |
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| 14:07.37 | florian_ | re |
| 14:08.21 | Jumbo | where were we florian ? |
| 14:08.33 | Jumbo | ;) |
| 14:08.39 | florian_ | Jumbo: it should be in your build directory in the conf subdir. |
| 14:08.49 | Jumbo | yes it is there ? |
| 14:09.30 | Jumbo | what is diet-x11 ? |
| 14:09.37 | Jumbo | do you have any idea ? |
| 14:11.14 | florian_ | Jumbo: Check the directory you run bitbake in. |
| 14:12.14 | florian_ | Jumbo: diet-x11 are X libraries which are configured to become small. It is a good idea to use these instead of the normal "x11" package. |
| 14:13.59 | Jumbo | ok. can i put diet-x11 and xserver-kdrive in DEPENDS as i need it ? |
| 14:14.15 | Jumbo | also on RDEPENDS as i want to use it ? |
| 14:16.32 | florian_ | I'm not sure if you need to have it in RDEPENDS, but that's one way to do it. |
| 14:17.30 | florian_ | But i'd suggest to define the preferred provider for xserver in the machine configuration file. |
| 14:18.55 | Jumbo | yes it is there in my machine conf file: PREFERRED_PROVIDER_xserver = "xserver-kdrive" |
| 14:19.26 | Jumbo | i tried not putting it in my RDEPENDS; the image did not have an x server ? |
| 14:21.23 | florian_ | hrm... |
| 14:21.46 | florian_ | I always get confused with that virtual stuff... |
| 14:22.10 | Jumbo | ok florian : i will go by what you say ? |
| 14:22.48 | florian_ | hrm# |
| 14:23.13 | florian_ | Jumbo: okay... that put in in RDEPENDS. |
| 14:24.36 | Jumbo | i cannot; if i put it in RDEPENDS i get an error saying:Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for task-basic: diet-x11 xserver-kdrive |
| 14:24.52 | Jumbo | i am totally confused buddy. |
| 14:25.03 | florian_ | ah |
| 14:25.25 | florian_ | The packages to install are named differently... |
| 14:25.53 | Jumbo | confused ;) |
| 14:26.50 | florian_ | Jumbo: If you bitbake "xserver-kdrive" you won't get a package with that name - what you need is xserver-kdrive-fbdev i guess. |
| 14:27.42 | florian_ | Jumbo: and remove diet-x11 from RDEPENDS, any xserver will pull the libraries in. |
| 14:30.10 | Jumbo | can i put them in DEPENDS ? |
| 14:33.08 | florian_ | yes |
| 14:35.05 | Jumbo | i get it: i should be able to bitbake all the things that are in depends; they may give output which are also called by the same name (example busybox) and sometimes they give output which is different as in out case xserver. we install the ouputs ? |
| 14:35.09 | Jumbo | am i right ? |
| 14:35.47 | florian_ | right |
| 14:36.35 | Jumbo | are you sure ? |
| 14:36.40 | Jumbo | ;) |
| 14:37.04 | florian_ | Jumbo: bitbake should show which result packages it creates and you can see the packaes in $TMPDIR/deploy/ipk |
| 14:38.33 | Jumbo | i see; but i have 5 xserver (fbdev, epson,xephr) |
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| 14:39.15 | florian_ | Jumbo: Exactly... all of them created by xserver-kdrive. |
| 14:40.04 | Jumbo | but why dont i specify all of them in RDEPENDS ?. why only one of them ? |
| 14:42.58 | florian_ | Jumbo: Do you more than one X-server? |
| 14:43.08 | florian_ | s/you/you need |
| 14:43.39 | Jumbo | no only one |
| 14:44.26 | Jumbo | you mean to say ; it creates 5 different x servers and take what you like (install it) |
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| 14:46.18 | florian_ | Jumbo: yep |
| 14:46.33 | florian_ | hrm... |
| 14:46.46 | florian_ | That stupid samba is broken :-/ |
| 14:47.39 | Jumbo | did not get you ? |
| 14:48.11 | florian_ | Jumbo: This is correct. |
| 14:53.16 | Jumbo | i dont want the initrd scripts; they take too much space; is there any way bitbake can take care of it ? |
| 14:53.22 | Jumbo | sorry init.d scripts (5 levels) for an embedded system ?. too much. |
| 14:54.28 | florian_ | Jumbo: these are all links to files in /etc/init.d/ |
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| 14:55.19 | Jumbo | whats match box for ? |
| 14:55.56 | florian_ | Jumbo: matchbox is a windowmanager. |
| 14:58.24 | Jumbo | do you know what basic packages are : plenty of packages avl: matchbox-panel-manager, matchbox-panel-hacks,matchbox-themes-extra dont know what each do ? |
| 15:00.02 | florian_ | yes... the panel manager is a configuration tool fot matchbox-panel which provides a panel for dockable applications. |
| 15:00.44 | florian_ | matchbox-panel-hacks contains some simple tools for the panel. |
| 15:20.17 | Jumbo | do i need all these packages : or which matchbox packages i need |
| 15:22.03 | florian_ | Jumbo: That depends on what you want to have - if you only need a windowmanager matchbox-wm and matchbox-common are everything you need. |
| 15:23.52 | Jumbo | i successfully compiled and could not mount it : i got a message saying job control turning off tty (something like that) |
| 15:24.54 | Jumbo | so it could not run the init scripts; when i loaded fb modules manually and did a xserver then i got some touch screeen related messages ?. are these things not done on the fly by oe ? |
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| 15:33.20 | Jumbo | florian : thanks a lot for your assistance; |
| 15:33.52 | Jumbo | i thank you ; i understood .bb file format some more today. |
| 15:33.59 | florian_ | Jumbo: yw |
| 15:34.13 | Jumbo | did not get u ? |
| 15:34.23 | florian_ | Jumbo: you are welcome :-) |
| 15:34.46 | Jumbo | i was about to leave to home ; thanks a lot; |
| 15:35.45 | Jumbo | i will see you tommrrow. same place. and test my image tommorrow. |
| 15:44.31 | florian_ | ~lart Asus |
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| 16:35.54 | alan_ | hi folks. |
| 16:38.37 | florian_ | hi alan_ |
| 16:41.37 | alan_ | i'm playing around with OZ-ljr on a 750. i'm flashing my Z everyday other day those days. Can it be usefull to report somewhere what works and what doesn't ? (that is the only kind of contribution i could do...) |
| 16:42.09 | alan_ | most important : where could i report ? |
| 16:44.03 | pb_ | You can report GPE issues to gpe@handhelds.org. |
| 16:44.45 | pb_ | But, most people on that list (including me) will have no idea what OZ-ljr is, so reporting things that are specific to that distro may not be terribly productive. |
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| 16:55.36 | jnc | hi |
| 16:55.57 | jnc | i have trouble with GPE on an Zaurus Sl-C3000 using the OpenZaurus system |
| 16:56.03 | florian_ | jnc: hello |
| 16:56.21 | jnc | taking advice from OE forums, i have managed to get GPE installed *i think* |
| 16:56.50 | jnc | the trouble is, the gpe-dm loads fine, and i can enter my password, then it appears that matchbox-wm begins to load |
| 16:56.52 | florian_ | Does oz support the sl-3000 now? |
| 16:56.55 | jnc | suddenly i am logged out |
| 16:57.02 | jnc | and GPE-dm starts again |
| 16:57.19 | jnc | florian_: not quite yet. it was difficult to even make it install |
| 16:57.26 | florian_ | jnc: check the file .xsession-errors in that users home directory. |
| 16:57.39 | jnc | florian_: ah, that is where errors are? i will look :) |
| 16:58.07 | jnc | libSM.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or director... |
| 16:58.08 | jnc | hehe |
| 16:58.15 | jnc | maybe i will poke ipkg some more |
| 16:58.21 | florian_ | That would be a problem... |
| 16:58.29 | alan_ | pb_: OZ-ljr is the unofficial release from Luke-jr. He produces a oz gpe image nearly each day... |
| 16:59.00 | alan_ | jnc remove keylaunch via ssh |
| 16:59.12 | alan_ | that is the guilty prog... |
| 16:59.14 | jnc | alan_: keylaunch is a package i could not find |
| 16:59.23 | jnc | so... i could not remove it, i think |
| 16:59.27 | alan_ | arg... |
| 17:00.12 | alan_ | well... according to this |
| 17:00.13 | alan_ | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=7684 |
| 17:00.42 | jnc | libsm6 ipk was not installed, i am installing it now |
| 17:00.44 | alan_ | a configuration file of yours might be broken in /home/* |
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| 17:01.36 | jnc | ah |
| 17:01.53 | jnc | are opie programs not usable on GPE? |
| 17:02.04 | florian_ | no |
| 17:02.21 | jnc | interesting |
| 17:02.42 | jnc | what is this i hear about Enlightenment being useful on embedded devices? |
| 17:03.11 | jnc | hooray! it is going further |
| 17:03.19 | alan_ | ^^ |
| 17:03.28 | alan_ | what did you do ? |
| 17:04.44 | jnc | i used ipkg to install libsm6 |
| 17:05.00 | jnc | the dependencies must be missing libsm6 |
| 17:08.26 | jnc | GPE feels sluggish compared to opie |
| 17:08.35 | jnc | is this to be expected? |
| 17:10.06 | florian_ | jnc: In which context? |
| 17:11.16 | jnc | florian_: on more consideration, i think it is the character recognition that makes it feel sluggish |
| 17:11.34 | jnc | florian_: the written recognition works beautifully |
| 17:12.36 | florian_ | jnc: ah |
| 17:12.53 | jnc | florian_: how do i sync to my desktop computer? |
| 17:13.20 | _law_ | florian_: what can i do against my gpe-login do_package problem? |
| 17:13.23 | florian_ | jnc: check out gpe-multisync |
| 17:13.24 | jnc | i have it networked wirelessly, and my desktop computer uses Evolution on a ubuntu system |
| 17:13.27 | jnc | 'k |
| 17:13.53 | jnc | it's such a shame there is no built in bluetooth on the sl-c3000 |
| 17:13.57 | florian_ | _law_: ah wait, i'll check in a fix to oe. |
| 17:14.14 | _law_ | florian_: thanks |
| 17:14.41 | jnc | i have made bluetooth function via host USB cable on the device, however that is an unwieldly solution - the cable sticks out from the back of the unit and makes it more difficult to hold or mount in a car |
| 17:18.03 | florian_ | yeah |
| 17:30.37 | florian_ | _law_: its in |
| 17:31.02 | _law_ | florian_: thanks i will start an update now |
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| 22:00.41 | florian_ | good night all |
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