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| 08:17.09 | bedboi | hi all |
| 08:21.48 | bedboi | florian_kc: is gpe-contacts 0.38 release in oe? |
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| 08:43.34 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 08:44.04 | florian_kc | bedboi: not yet, but we can ask koen|sleep as soon as he is up :-) |
| 08:44.33 | bedboi | ehehe |
| 08:47.34 | bedboi | i found a way to check for duplicate entries in gpe-contacts |
| 08:47.50 | florian_kc | ah cool |
| 08:49.06 | bedboi | it needs two queries |
| 08:49.22 | bedboi | but it works only with new db schema |
| 08:50.10 | florian_kc | I think we can live with this... |
| 08:50.16 | bedboi | well to be exact, one view (temporary) and one select |
| 08:51.49 | florian_kc | argh... one of my harddisks died :-/ |
| 08:52.55 | bedboi | too bad |
| 08:55.45 | bedboi | ok, we have a way to find out all duplicates |
| 08:55.50 | florian_kc | Luckily only used for backups and a local copy of my music collection... |
| 08:55.52 | bedboi | writing the function |
| 08:56.10 | florian_kc | bedboi: nice! |
| 08:57.24 | bedboi | maybe we also need a function to check if we are inserting a duplicate row |
| 08:57.32 | bedboi | i'm just guessing |
| 08:57.57 | bedboi | shit i need a little screwdriver to fix my laptop AC adapter |
| 08:59.28 | florian_kc | hi mickeyl |
| 08:59.37 | mickeyl | morning florian_kc |
| 09:00.09 | florian_kc | Merging contacts and syncing will be fun :-) |
| 09:00.36 | florian_kc | hmm... no, maybe it will just work. |
| 09:11.31 | florian_kc | mickey|sick: :-( |
| 09:12.28 | mickey|sick | vomited like a horse the whole nite - guess the milk was sour :( |
| 09:13.22 | florian_kc | That doesn't sound good :-( |
| 09:13.41 | florian_kc | hrm.. bitbake doesn't understand me... |
| 09:16.50 | koen | good morning all |
| 09:16.59 | mallum | hey koen |
| 09:17.12 | koen | 11:16 < CIA-8> koen * r1.3352 openembedded/packages/gpe-contacts/gpe-contacts_0.38.bb: Add gpe-contacts 0.38 |
| 09:17.16 | koen | hey mallum |
| 09:25.05 | florian_kc | *gg* |
| 09:25.08 | florian_kc | hi koen |
| 09:25.48 | koen | hey florian_kc |
| 09:25.59 | lardman|work | morning all |
| 09:26.18 | florian_kc | hello lardman|work |
| 09:26.54 | bedboi | brb |
| 09:27.01 | bedboi | fixing ac adapter again |
| 09:28.21 | bedboi | koen: i managed to find duplicate entries |
| 09:28.28 | bedboi | btw i'll tell you in 5 minutes (i hope) |
| 09:28.30 | bedboi | brb |
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| 09:43.40 | bedboi | still no working ac adapter for my laptop |
| 09:43.41 | bedboi | :( |
| 09:44.09 | bedboi | i really need a new one |
| 09:44.13 | koen | aren't those standard 12V ? |
| 09:45.41 | bedboi | 18.5V 4.9A |
| 09:45.50 | bedboi | it's for my HP laptop |
| 09:46.06 | koen | hmmm |
| 09:46.14 | florian_kc | koen: heh, what are you doing? |
| 09:46.14 | koen | mine is a 24V 1.9A |
| 09:46.22 | bedboi | i don't want to buy a new adapter just because the cable is faulty |
| 09:46.28 | koen | florian_kc: reading pb_'s mail to familiar@ |
| 09:47.11 | bedboi | it's cutted near the adapter (not near the connector) |
| 09:47.16 | florian_kc | hehe |
| 09:47.18 | bedboi | which is too bad obviously |
| 09:47.30 | bedboi | damn murphy's law |
| 09:47.38 | florian_kc | :-/ |
| 09:48.27 | bedboi | i tried to open the box but there's no way |
| 09:49.38 | florian_kc | koen: Almost the same gkdial like we have in oe was successfully tested with some simple modems here and several people used it sucessfully with gprs. I'm not sure about bluetooth, but if it doesn't work is should be pretty easy to make. |
| 09:50.12 | koen | florian_kc: for bt: s/ttyS0/rfcomm0/ |
| 09:50.19 | koen | and you're done |
| 09:51.00 | bedboi | yep |
| 09:51.06 | florian_kc | i wonder if i implemented port selection in the end... |
| 09:54.39 | florian_kc | koen: do you have an up to date ipaq-pxa image? |
| 09:54.55 | koen | only on my uni buildbox, which is down |
| 09:55.15 | florian_kc | okay... then 0.8.2 |
| 09:57.27 | florian_kc | hmm.. i guess i suffer from a bitbake bug |
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| 10:03.50 | tommie | Hm, I'm trying to get snes9x running, but after loading the ROM file, the only thing I get is a black window |
| 10:08.18 | koen | iirc Cwiiis is our game emu expert :) |
| 10:14.00 | Cwiiis | Dunno about that :) |
| 10:14.56 | koen | tommie: ooh, is that native ipv6? |
| 10:15.26 | Cwiiis | tommie: Same thing happens with dgen, no ideas I'm afraid :/ |
| 10:16.07 | tommie | perhaps an X11/DGA issue? |
| 10:16.18 | tommie | koen: Not, it's a tunnel |
| 10:16.44 | tommie | but on the other hand, my IPv4 address is tunneled as well :-) |
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| 10:18.55 | mallum | tommie: kdrive dont do dga |
| 10:29.02 | tommie | mallum: but perhaps snes9x does request it? |
| 10:36.31 | mallum | tommie: can you explicity tell it not too ? It should fall back anyway |
| 10:36.34 | Cwiiis | it uses sdl, which works fine |
| 10:38.13 | tommie | hm |
| 10:38.16 | koen | depending on which sdl version/build you use |
| 10:38.41 | tommie | BTW, is there a real bugtracking system? There are a lot of packages in the x11 feed that have really weird dependencies |
| 10:39.08 | florian_kc | koen: gpe-session-scripts are a good candidate for oe too, they should contain several fixes patched in in oe and clean the default toolbar a little bit. |
| 10:39.18 | koen | handhelds.org/~bugzilla or bugs.openembedded.org |
| 10:40.00 | florian_kc | koen: e.g. i removed xstroke which seems to confuse many beginners. |
| 10:40.17 | koen | hmmm |
| 10:40.23 | koen | Cwiiis: could you have a look at that? |
| 10:40.31 | koen | Cwiiis: I see a lot os Z stuff |
| 10:40.51 | Cwiiis | koen: I've had no time for OE recently :( (exams soon, coursework deadlines) |
| 10:41.15 | Cwiiis | I'll stick it on my todo list |
| 10:45.00 | tommie | koen: Is there something like "report-bug" on Debian? A script that gathers information about your system, the versions of packages the selected package depends on etc.? If not, that's something I could do :-) |
| 10:45.23 | koen | tommie: not that I know off |
| 10:45.28 | tommie | Ah |
| 10:45.36 | tommie | koen: But you know report-bug? |
| 10:46.20 | koen | no |
| 10:46.35 | tommie | koen: really nice tool for reporting stuff to the maintainer |
| 10:46.44 | koen | I imagine it's like gnome's bug-buddy |
| 10:46.53 | koen | and like osx's "send report" tool |
| 10:46.55 | tommie | I don't know that |
| 10:47.10 | tommie | but it's text based |
| 10:49.15 | tommie | You invoke it with "report-bug abiword", and then it asks you to specify the nature of the bug (severe, slight, wishlist), checks if there are similar reports already in the database, und attaches a summary of package revisions to your mail |
| 10:49.35 | tommie | e.g. which release of abiword, which gtk version etc. |
| 10:55.28 | mallum | koen: any idea why the dumb arse old style busy cursor gets shown with fam images ? |
| 10:55.48 | mallum | koen: also you dont fancy spinning a new mb-wm build without --enable-composite switch ? |
| 10:55.59 | mallum | koen: I can figure out that positioning thing then |
| 10:56.45 | koen | no, when glibc finish packaging, ok |
| 10:58.10 | koen | mallum: you want the composite change in upstream OE? |
| 11:00.41 | tommie | hm, does pygtk work well? I'd like to program some stuff for GPE, but I'm not a C programmer |
| 11:01.49 | florian_kc | From what i know yes... but Python needs much more memory and CPU than C applications. |
| 11:02.05 | tommie | I know |
| 11:02.09 | tommie | But Python is nice :-) |
| 11:03.25 | florian_kc | If you want fast results, yes - but if you want more complex applications to work fast you should think about using C or C++. |
| 11:04.16 | tommie | ah, I don't think so |
| 11:04.21 | tommie | Python has really nice OO abilities |
| 11:06.07 | tommie | You can really do great stuff with it, and avoid the dangers that surround C(++) |
| 11:07.15 | florian_kc | sure... but iirc there was some project for PDA applications in python... and they gave up because of speed issues. |
| 11:07.36 | tommie | hm |
| 11:07.49 | tommie | OK, PDAs of course are some kind of special platform |
| 11:08.53 | florian_kc | yes... for pcs there arre some pretty nice complex applications writtne in python. |
| 11:12.15 | bedboi | i don't remember the library that notifies of a file change (is notify?) |
| 11:12.28 | bedboi | and i don't know if that can be used in procfs |
| 11:13.10 | florian_kc | ah no... i tried this some time ago, this doesn't work in /proc |
| 11:13.25 | bedboi | shit |
| 11:13.40 | bedboi | i need something to be notified of changes in procfs |
| 11:14.28 | koen | dnotify? |
| 11:14.30 | koen | inotify? |
| 11:14.36 | koen | fam? |
| 11:14.37 | bedboi | ah, dnotify works? |
| 11:14.39 | koen | gamin? |
| 11:14.43 | bedboi | gamin? |
| 11:15.09 | koen | http://www.gnome.org/~veillard/gamin/ |
| 11:15.10 | bedboi | i'll try dnotify in profs |
| 11:15.30 | koen|uni | bbl |
| 11:18.52 | bedboi | don't know if dnotify works in procfs |
| 11:22.14 | bedboi | it seems it doesn't work in proc |
| 11:25.19 | bedboi | ahah...bic tcp sucks |
| 11:25.41 | bedboi | i really don't know who choose that to be the default TCP |
| 11:38.53 | tommie | http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi?product=gpe-nmf Hm, I'm running Version 0.20-r1, but it is not in the list? |
| 11:42.20 | mallum | koen|uni: I need to check it first |
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| 12:03.56 | lardman|work | I added matchbox-desktop to ~/.matchbox/mbdock.session so that my desktop starts automatically - has no-one else seen this problem (image built yesterday)? |
| 12:04.24 | lardman|work | If not, what should I look at to submit a patch to enable it? |
| 12:09.54 | mallum | lardman|lunch: cp /usr/bin/matchbox-session to ~/.matchbox/session and edit |
| 12:10.08 | mallum | lardman|lunch: mbdock.session is used by the panel |
| 12:10.10 | TyggerBob | Good morning all |
| 12:12.00 | TyggerBob | Well.. according to my sister, I'm officially an old guy today |
| 12:12.18 | mallum | TyggerBob: how old are you ? |
| 12:12.34 | TyggerBob | 40 |
| 12:12.42 | mallum | TyggerBob: life begins at 40! ;) |
| 12:12.45 | TyggerBob | :) |
| 12:12.49 | mallum | TyggerBob: happy b'day :) |
| 12:12.52 | TyggerBob | that's what I'm telling myself. |
| 12:12.59 | TyggerBob | Things are good... |
| 12:13.12 | florian_kc | hi TyggerBob, congratulations :-) |
| 12:13.17 | TyggerBob | my son and I had a disagreement as to whose birthday it actually was this morning.. |
| 12:13.29 | TyggerBob | he was worried that if it wasn't HIS birthday, that he wouldn't get any cake |
| 12:13.41 | TyggerBob | so I told him we'd share the cake, and that made all well |
| 12:13.50 | TyggerBob | mallum, are you over 40? |
| 12:17.05 | TyggerBob | thanks, mallum and florian_kc |
| 12:17.36 | mallum | TyggerBob: no I was 30 last year, 31 this |
| 12:21.55 | TyggerBob | ahhh |
| 12:23.05 | TyggerBob | brb.. gotta drop off the VPN to print something. |
| 12:25.06 | TyggerBob | ~lart our network that doesn't allow split tunnelling |
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| 12:26.12 | koen | [1]TyggerBob: congrats |
| 12:26.31 | cw2 | been there done that |
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| 12:38.34 | [2]TyggerBob | just in time to leave.. |
| 12:38.46 | [2]TyggerBob | talk to you later.. gotta go get beat up at a meeting |
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| 12:53.23 | lardman|work | mallum: okay, thanks, I was just mentioning it as I thought this should be started by default |
| 12:55.06 | mallum | lardman|work: it usually is, but I think gpe changes the default matchbox-session |
| 12:58.14 | koen | iirc it appends a xres >= 640 -> start gpe-appmgr |
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| 13:07.48 | lardman|work | I had gpe-appmgr installed but it wasn't started wither though |
| 13:08.09 | lardman|work | s/wither/either |
| 13:08.31 | koen | lardman|work: I changed it a while ago |
| 13:08.36 | koen | hey pb_ |
| 13:08.41 | pb_ | hi all |
| 13:08.46 | lardman|work | koen: to start gpe-appmgr? |
| 13:08.56 | koen | lardman|work: to not start it |
| 13:09.07 | lardman|work | koen: ok, so then it starts nothing though |
| 13:09.17 | koen | since appmgr doesn't build with the latest cairo |
| 13:09.42 | koen | and doesn't handle rotation |
| 13:09.52 | lardman|work | koen: ok |
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| 13:36.01 | bedboi | back |
| 13:36.28 | pb_ | phew |
| 13:37.34 | bedboi | hi pb |
| 13:38.21 | bedboi | what about xstroke? how come it was removed from gpe-session-scripts |
| 13:38.25 | bedboi | ? |
| 13:40.27 | bedboi | today i tried to send some vcards from my nokia (6630) cellphone to my ipaq h54xx |
| 13:41.02 | bedboi | after it successfully received 2 vcards it stopped working |
| 13:41.22 | bedboi | is it a known issue? |
| 13:43.22 | pb_ | bedboi: I think Nils wanted to remove it for some reason. I don't remember exactly why. |
| 13:43.29 | pb_ | no, that isn't a known issue. |
| 13:43.32 | pb_ | at least, not known by me. |
| 13:43.33 | pb_ | heh |
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| 13:47.16 | bedboi | when i got that problem bluetooth applet got a strange behaviour, you can turn off bluetooth from the applet |
| 13:47.30 | bedboi | pb_, btw i always use xstroke |
| 13:48.00 | bedboi | it's a good option when you learn all strokes |
| 13:48.38 | bedboi | much more than using the virtual keyboard |
| 13:48.53 | bedboi | which is difficult to use when you are moving |
| 13:49.41 | pb_ | right |
| 13:50.46 | florian_kc | hey pb_ ! |
| 13:51.49 | florian_kc | bedboi: I imported anout 30 from a 9210i without any trouble. |
| 13:52.18 | bedboi | florian_kc, maybe it's a nokia issue, or maybe i should upgrade |
| 13:53.26 | florian_kc | bedboi, pb_: I removed xstroke from the default panel becaue it was really confusing for people who didn't know what it is. Everyone who knows and uses it should be able to add it pretty fast. |
| 13:54.19 | florian_kc | bedboi: hmm.. maybe, so far nokia vcards worked pretty well. palm and siemens devices seem to produce not that good vcards. |
| 13:54.39 | koen | florian_kc: hijack nils' s55 for testing |
| 13:55.19 | pb_ | florian_kc: so xstroke is still in the image, just not in the panel? |
| 13:55.21 | florian_kc | heh |
| 13:55.27 | florian_kc | pb_: yes sure! |
| 13:55.27 | pb_ | florian_kc: (good afternoon!) |
| 13:55.34 | pb_ | florian_kc: ah right, fine. |
| 13:55.36 | florian_kc | i hope so :-) |
| 13:56.27 | bedboi | moving to my now working laptop (fixed the AC adapter) |
| 13:56.37 | florian_kc | xstroke works really nice, i remember paul was very fast with it. |
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| 13:57.00 | bedboi | back |
| 13:58.33 | koen | pb_: what are your plans for moving to dbus 0.30? |
| 13:59.31 | pb_ | unformed |
| 14:01.50 | koen | I imagine 0.31 will probably break compat too |
| 14:23.09 | bedboi | the bluetooth issue reamins even if you issue /etc/init.d/bluetooth stop and start |
| 14:45.16 | bedboi | g |
| 14:45.18 | bedboi | ops |
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| 15:13.12 | bedboi | cool, i updated bitbake and it doesn't work anymore |
| 15:13.21 | bedboi | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:13.22 | bedboi | AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'createCopy' |
| 15:16.14 | pb_ | cool |
| 15:17.27 | bedboi | yep |
| 15:17.30 | bedboi | really cool. |
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| 15:43.16 | TyggerBob | for what? |
| 15:43.19 | TyggerBob | oh yeah.. the meeting |
| 15:43.28 | koen | 14:38 < [2]TyggerBob> talk to you later.. gotta go get beat up at a meeting |
| 15:43.35 | TyggerBob | turned out to be not so bad.. |
| 15:43.47 | TyggerBob | things go better when you don't give a s**t |
| 15:44.05 | TyggerBob | I'm in too good of a mood for them to bother me ;) |
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| 15:49.42 | bedboi | it seems default TCP stack in linux > 2.6.8 got a serious bug in congestion control |
| 15:50.42 | bedboi | pb_: are you aware of any way to be notified if something in a procfs directory changes? |
| 15:50.47 | bedboi | it seems dnotify doesn't work |
| 15:57.43 | pb_ | bedboi: sorry, no |
| 15:57.56 | pb_ | TyggerBob: heh |
| 15:59.52 | TyggerBob | Hi Phil. |
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| 16:00.30 | koen | RP|tablet: new toy? |
| 16:00.45 | TyggerBob | tablets are all the rage in my office right now |
| 16:00.52 | TyggerBob | everyone and his dog has one... |
| 16:01.01 | RP|tablet | koen: kind of :) |
| 16:01.15 | TyggerBob | they look like a bunch of rennaissance painters walking around with their canvases |
| 16:01.16 | koen | TyggerBob: say your ipaq is a minitablet |
| 16:01.53 | RP|tablet | I have to say the wireless pointer on this is good... |
| 16:02.19 | TyggerBob | hehehe |
| 16:02.36 | RP|tablet | (Its a Compaq tc1000) |
| 16:02.45 | TyggerBob | I'm like "what do you mean you don't have word completion?" :) |
| 16:03.07 | bedboi | eehe |
| 16:03.11 | TyggerBob | you and your damned USB host card!! |
| 16:03.46 | bedboi | you wireless freak |
| 16:03.50 | florian_kc | *g* |
| 16:04.04 | RP|tablet | I suddenly see the advantage of a USB host adapter :) |
| 16:04.44 | koen | florian_kc: don't get a "smart bluetooth" one |
| 16:05.52 | TyggerBob | Guess I must have put it in when I registered |
| 16:06.22 | RP|tablet | TyggerBob, happy birthday! :) |
| 16:07.37 | RP|tablet | What's the recommended method of GPS enabling a handheld btw? |
| 16:07.38 | TyggerBob | thanks... |
| 16:07.58 | RP|tablet | I guess its CF card or serial GPS? |
| 16:08.12 | koen | RP|tablet: bluetooth |
| 16:08.31 | koen | any selfrespecting pda has it ;) |
| 16:08.57 | RP|tablet | My Z hasn't which therefore tends to rule it out ;-) |
| 16:09.48 | lardman|afk | Go for serial then, more flexible than CF imo |
| 16:10.43 | koen | RP|tablet: cf bt card |
| 16:10.44 | florian_kc | koen: I thought about the Belkin or the Nokia. |
| 16:10.52 | RP|tablet | lardman|afk: My only concern is all the leads and maybe power problems? |
| 16:11.07 | koen | florian_kc: I heard the belkin was pretty sturdy |
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| 16:11.20 | lardman|afk | RP|tablet: there is a lead - true, but I think that's good as then you can stash your Z somewhere safe |
| 16:11.51 | lardman|afk | RP|tablet: separate power is often needed, but it's just a few batteries and another lead |
| 16:11.53 | RP|tablet | koen: Thats always an option... |
| 16:12.10 | lardman|afk | Takes away the option of having wifi at the same time though |
| 16:12.44 | koen | stinking Z's |
| 16:12.56 | lardman|afk | lol |
| 16:12.57 | RP|tablet | Mmmm :-/ |
| 16:13.36 | lardman|afk | http://students.bath.ac.uk/enpsgp/Zaurus/100-0079_IMG_small.JPG |
| 16:13.37 | koen | lardman|afk: I was going for cfu1u + hub + bt dongle + usb wifi as an option |
| 16:13.37 | RP|tablet | I have vauge ideas about mounting the Z in the car for navigation... |
| 16:13.39 | lardman|afk | is my one |
| 16:13.48 | koen | RP|tablet: gaffa tape |
| 16:13.54 | lardman|afk | and 100-0081_IMG_small.JPG too |
| 16:14.11 | lardman|afk | koen: that would be ok, all in a back-pack |
| 16:14.30 | lardman|afk | koen: why not go for an Earthmate usb gps too? |
| 16:14.52 | koen | lardman|afk: *another* gps? |
| 16:14.52 | lardman|afk | right, I'll be back in a bit - I'm being forced to play a bit of doom3 |
| 16:15.10 | lardman|afk | koen: another? I don't have one of them |
| 16:15.20 | koen | I allready have a fortuna U2 usb gps |
| 16:15.25 | lardman|afk | koen: ah right |
| 16:17.04 | koen | (I should have bought a *real* gps instead of those 2 gadgets) |
| 16:18.03 | RP|tablet | koen: What makes you say that? |
| 16:18.04 | koen | http://www.holux.com.tw/Temp%20web/GM-101.html |
| 16:18.04 | TyggerBob | I have a little 6v battery that supplies power to the GPS, and the iPAQ plugs into the car |
| 16:18.16 | TyggerBob | I guess it depends on what you want to do with it |
| 16:18.23 | koen | RP|tablet: the whole gpsd incompat problem |
| 16:18.38 | TyggerBob | if you're looking for something to geocache with, for example, my solution might not do the trick |
| 16:19.20 | RP|tablet | I think I need to do some research... |
| 16:19.42 | RP|tablet | The serial route looks tempting though... |
| 16:19.46 | koen | or I'll just hook up http://www.holux.com.tw/Temp%20web/GM-83.html to the arm eval board |
| 16:21.09 | TyggerBob | also depends on what connectivity options you have... |
| 16:21.28 | TyggerBob | if you only have 1 cf slot, like me, you can't use the GPS and a CF card at the same time... |
| 16:21.30 | koen | with a zaurus? none |
| 16:21.48 | koen | ~lart sharp |
| 16:23.48 | florian_kc | koen: hm... designing an own device? you would find some more people to help here :-) |
| 16:24.04 | koen | florian_kc: :) |
| 16:25.15 | koen | florian_kc: designing a sbc would be a nice project |
| 16:26.42 | pb_ | florian_kc: heh, I suppose a minicomputer would be the kind of thing you might be interested in. |
| 16:26.58 | koen | florian_kc: something like a gumstix or xbox stargate |
| 16:26.59 | florian_kc | yeah! |
| 16:27.24 | koen | s/xbox/xbow/ |
| 16:28.08 | florian_kc | that Triceps is pretty nice... that should be useful for a compact mainframe too ;) |
| 16:28.52 | bedboi | florian_kc: i was reading vcard-import.c |
| 16:28.52 | RP | Hardware design is good fun... |
| 16:29.04 | bedboi | it seems we have to reflect DB changes to that file too |
| 16:29.39 | koen | RP: not with deadlines |
| 16:29.48 | florian_kc | heh |
| 16:29.58 | florian_kc | bedboi: hell... that's right. |
| 16:30.02 | koen | bedboi: API |
| 16:30.30 | bedboi | grep -v API |
| 16:30.36 | bedboi | :) |
| 16:31.25 | bedboi | btw yes, we definitely need the API |
| 16:32.41 | bedboi | florian_kc: i'll try to fix vcard-import.c myself if you don't mind |
| 16:33.59 | florian_kc | bedboi: that would be cool - if you have a fix please send me a copy :-) |
| 16:35.10 | bedboi | ok. |
| 16:35.11 | RP | koen: What is the gpsd incompat problem? |
| 16:35.42 | bedboi | florian_kc: is there any reason to have DB_NAME_CONTACTS, DB_NAME_VCARD defined in db.c instead of db.h |
| 16:36.07 | bedboi | i'm moving them to db.h to use them in vcard-import.c |
| 16:36.24 | florian_kc | bedboi: i don't think so, that would be good. |
| 16:36.43 | bedboi | ok |
| 16:36.55 | koen | RP: after gpsd 2.10 or so they changes the interface, rendering frontends (qpegps, gpsdrive, roadster, pygps) useless |
| 16:36.57 | bedboi | maybe it's just because db.c was not written with an API in mind |
| 16:37.21 | florian_kc | bedboi: yes... |
| 16:37.30 | RP | koen: but that will affect all gps units? |
| 16:38.16 | koen | RP: is works better with gps units, but apps can't talk to gpsd anymore |
| 16:39.02 | RP | koen: right. What I mean is, it doesn't matter which gps unit I buy as they're all broken? :) |
| 16:39.44 | koen | RP: correct :) |
| 16:47.54 | bedboi | florian_kc: GSList *data in person struct is the list of all tags, isn't it? |
| 16:48.32 | bedboi | other than contact_urn fiels |
| 16:50.35 | florian_kc | bedboi: right... in current implementation it can contain redundant information. i need to clean this some time... |
| 16:51.17 | bedboi | ah,ok |
| 16:51.48 | bedboi | i just use g_slist_append to build data field |
| 16:52.22 | bedboi | appending a tag_value pointer, right? |
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| 16:53.14 | florian_kc | yep.. that's pretty simple. |
| 16:54.01 | florian_kc | there are some function for constructing these tag-value pairs in db.c, but its not much more complicated without. |
| 16:55.11 | bedboi | yep new_tag_pair |
| 16:55.14 | bedboi | or something like that |
| 16:55.16 | bedboi | i'm using that |
| 16:55.24 | bedboi | new_tag_value |
| 16:55.26 | florian_kc | ah good :-) |
| 16:57.36 | bedboi | commit_person should add the person to contact |
| 16:58.25 | bedboi | if i don't set p->id it will create new person isn't it? |
| 17:00.28 | bedboi | let's see if it compiles |
| 17:01.56 | florian_kc | bedboi: yes |
| 17:12.32 | bedboi | what's the format that vcard library can handle? |
| 17:12.46 | bedboi | vcard generated by evolution are not good ? |
| 17:14.17 | florian_kc | Any vcard that doesn't use too many custom fields should be ok. |
| 17:14.58 | TyggerBob | later florian_kc |
| 17:17.01 | univac | how can i run icewm on familiar? |
| 17:17.23 | univac | only run ipkg install icewm? |
| 17:17.42 | koen | and you need to modify the session file |
| 17:18.03 | univac | where it is? |
| 17:18.43 | bedboi | hmmm |
| 17:19.03 | bedboi | i tried with a stupid evolution vcard but vcard_to_tags failed |
| 17:19.48 | univac | koen: where is a session file? |
| 17:20.17 | bedboi | no, pebkac |
| 17:23.25 | univac | hm |
| 17:27.47 | univac | works.. :) |
| 17:31.56 | bedboi | is there anyone who can test the patch to vcard-import? |
| 17:32.03 | bedboi | i have issues on my box |
| 17:32.44 | pb_ | oh dear, issues? I hate those. |
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| 17:33.18 | bedboi | yep :) |
| 17:33.20 | bedboi | me too |
| 17:33.35 | bedboi | the fact is that i'm in a hurry and would like to know if the patch works |
| 17:34.07 | bedboi | i added is_duplicate to db.c |
| 17:35.17 | TyggerBob | koen, I tried to do a build yesterday and it crashed and burned badly.. |
| 17:35.33 | TyggerBob | do I need to update my bitbake stuff as well as the openembedded feed? |
| 17:38.51 | bedboi | maybe koen's mantra worked |
| 17:39.37 | bedboi | don't know how much it will take, i'm a sqlite newbie but btw it seems to be rather easy |
| 17:40.34 | koen | TyggerBob: you need bitbake 1.2.1 or svn trunk |
| 17:40.34 | koen | bedboi: did it work? |
| 17:44.56 | univac_ | what name have a keyboard (binary) |
| 17:45.04 | univac_ | i havent keyboard in icewm |
| 17:45.32 | univac_ | kbdd ? |
| 17:50.43 | univac_ | o, i have :) |
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| 18:03.50 | TyggerBob | koen, what's the svn command to update bitbake? |
| 18:04.15 | zecke | TyggerBob: svn up |
| 18:04.40 | zecke | or svn switch svn://gender |
| 18:11.24 | TyggerBob | ack: |
| 18:11.24 | TyggerBob | bdavies@host32:~/bitbakery$ bitbake sectest-gpe-image |
| 18:11.24 | TyggerBob | Traceback (most recent call last): |
| 18:11.25 | TyggerBob | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:11.25 | TyggerBob | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:11.25 | TyggerBob | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:11.26 | TyggerBob | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:11.28 | TyggerBob | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:11.30 | TyggerBob | SyntaxError: invalid syntax |
| 18:11.32 | TyggerBob | oops.. didn't mean to do that |
| 18:13.05 | koen | rm $TMPDIR/cache |
| 18:24.55 | zecke | koen: no |
| 18:25.05 | zecke | TyggerBob: you've a conflict in make.py |
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| 18:31.42 | TyggerBob | how do I fix it? |
| 18:31.49 | florian | re |
| 18:31.57 | koen | florian: welcome back |
| 18:32.33 | TyggerBob | re florian |
| 18:34.45 | univac_ | enlightenment works with familiar |
| 18:34.47 | univac_ | ? |
| 18:35.05 | univac_ | http://www.csk.pl/~kas/video/e17/eem-live.avi |
| 18:35.08 | univac_ | http://www.csk.pl/~kas/video/e17/eem.avi |
| 18:35.10 | univac_ | http://www.csk.pl/~kas/video/e17/evoak.avi |
| 18:35.12 | univac_ | nice |
| 18:36.00 | koen | eem isn't usefull yet, but we should have ipkg's for the EFL in the feeds |
| 18:44.46 | zecke | univac_: ask yourself why he calibrates the touchscreen when solely using the jogdial ;) |
| 18:45.02 | univac_ | hehe :) |
| 18:49.26 | TyggerBob | zecke, is that conflict easy to fix? |
| 18:49.49 | zecke | TyggerBob: it is because you've locally changed make.py? |
| 18:49.55 | TyggerBob | or should I just blow away my bitbake dir and re subversion it. |
| 18:49.56 | TyggerBob | nope.. |
| 18:50.14 | TyggerBob | I've never changed anything in ~/bitbakery/bitbake |
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| 18:53.44 | TyggerBob | ok.. the new OE Wiki is less than helpful |
| 18:54.27 | TyggerBob | found it |
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| 18:56.34 | TyggerBob | re phil |
| 18:56.51 | florian | hi pb_ |
| 18:56.54 | pb_ | re bob |
| 18:57.01 | koen | hey pb_ |
| 19:05.26 | TyggerBob | hrm.. Invalid OS in my build.. |
| 19:05.29 | TyggerBob | where does that get set? |
| 19:05.37 | TyggerBob | is that new? |
| 19:07.12 | bedboi | going home |
| 19:16.07 | TyggerBob | ok.. looks like it's going now |
| 19:38.42 | TyggerBob | ok.. WAS going.. |
| 19:38.48 | TyggerBob | ack erp psssttt... |
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| 19:45.25 | zecke | TyggerBob: new is relative, it should be set in conf/local.conf |
| 19:46.21 | tommie | http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi?product=gpe-nmf Hm, I'm running Version 0.20-r1, but it is not in the list? Any ideas? |
| 19:46.56 | koen | tommie: just file without a version |
| 19:47.05 | tommie | ah ok |
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| 20:19.58 | aquadran | pb_: is there any gpe apps debug output without recompiling ? |
| 20:20.54 | pb_ | most gpe apps don't have any debug output at all. |
| 20:21.09 | pb_ | you'd need to add debug statements to the code and recompile. |
| 20:21.16 | pb_ | what are you trying to debug, in particular? |
| 20:21.19 | aquadran | ok |
| 20:21.38 | aquadran | i wonder why control panel app don't want start |
| 20:22.03 | pb_ | I suspect it probably isn't installed, or something. |
| 20:22.04 | aquadran | if i right remember that settings application name |
| 20:22.08 | pb_ | that seems to be the usual problem |
| 20:22.12 | univac_ | look |
| 20:22.14 | univac_ | root@h3600:~# /usr/X11R6/bin/blackbox |
| 20:22.14 | univac_ | /usr/X11R6/bin/blackbox: error while loading shared libraries: libXft.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 20:22.27 | pb_ | aquadran: check with florian, he's the settingsmeister. |
| 20:22.30 | univac_ | i have it in /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.1 |
| 20:22.37 | pb_ | very good |
| 20:25.35 | aquadran | florian: does gpe "control panel' app in setttings depends on something particular ? it doesn't start wihout any message. i'm using h3900 gpe 0.8.2 release default distro |
| 20:26.23 | florian | aquadran: hi |
| 20:26.26 | aquadran | hi |
| 20:27.03 | aquadran | it's 2.6 kernel |
| 20:27.45 | aquadran | and i have no idea how it's typical state. i'm using that image for h1915 |
| 20:27.52 | florian | aquadran: that's a bug... this icon shouldn't be there. it opens a gpe-appmgr (if installed) with all the other settings tools you see around this icon. |
| 20:28.28 | aquadran | heh, ok thanks :) |
| 20:28.46 | florian | pb_: i know how the locale definition files should look like now... :-) |
| 20:29.10 | pb_ | florian: cool! :-) |
| 20:31.29 | florian | now i need a bb to create these files... |
| 20:33.48 | aquadran | one more thing.. i'm trying override key definition for 'calendar,contacts,...' buttons with xmodmap(I added one more platform file like other) to much default gpe key setting for that buttons. it set and after i check with xmodmap. it looks ok. but gpe still not response for that buttons. did i need do something more to remmap keys ? |
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| 20:35.47 | aquadran | input device driver scancodes match which i set in own xmodmap definition file |
| 20:35.59 | aquadran | and pda driver |
| 20:37.16 | florian | aquadran: you can use xev to find out which events are generated. |
| 20:37.41 | aquadran | florian: thanks again :) |
| 20:37.41 | koen | you can even run xev on your host and point it to your ipaq |
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| 20:43.26 | florian | :-) |
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| 21:06.32 | reenoo | evening |
| 21:06.38 | florian | hi reenoo |
| 21:06.49 | reenoo | hey florian |
| 21:08.11 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:09.00 | reenoo | hi koen |
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| 21:37.02 | florian | hrm... i'm too stupid to fix this locale file stuff :-/ |
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| 21:59.26 | bedboi | hi all |
| 21:59.37 | koen | hey bedboi |
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| 22:45.46 | reenoo | 'night all |
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