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| 07:14.00 | rob_w | goood morning |
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| 08:35.30 | bedboi | hi there |
| 08:48.43 | rob_w | hi bedboi |
| 08:49.10 | bedboi | it seems that sourceforge is under spammers attack |
| 08:49.30 | bedboi | i receive something like 30 junk emails a day |
| 08:58.21 | rob_w | like freedesktop.org ,, that is my first grade spam source these days |
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| 09:00.27 | bedboi | ehehe |
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| 09:21.32 | reenoo | morning |
| 09:42.17 | Philippe | morning |
| 09:42.54 | reenoo | hey Philippe |
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| 09:48.38 | Philippe | morning koen |
| 09:49.01 | koen | hey Philippe |
| 09:49.19 | koen | I finally have internet connectivity again |
| 09:49.53 | Philippe | good thing :-) |
| 09:50.12 | reenoo | hi koen |
| 09:50.20 | koen | hey reenoo |
| 09:58.32 | Philippe | What would be the module for the backlight? I am investigating why minilite doesn't work on my Ipaq... and /proc/drivers/backlight doesn' t seem to exist. (nor am I running 2.6) |
| 09:59.09 | Philippe | so /sys/class etc is not there.... Or is the new minilite 2.6 only and should I upgrade? |
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| 10:02.00 | koen | iirc ipaq_hal and ..._asic should take care of backlight stuff |
| 10:06.10 | Philippe | aha ipaq_asic is missing.... Let's check the kernel config... |
| 10:12.32 | Philippe | ah found h3600_asic, loaded it but still no change. (is this actually the correct module for a 3850? |
| 10:15.25 | koen | doesn't h3800 use asic2? |
| 10:16.46 | reenoo | no, h3600_asic is correct |
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| 10:39.19 | pigeon | is there actaully a cvs repository for rmk's arm linux kernel? |
| 10:40.46 | Philippe | pigeon, I believe rmk puts everything in mainline at kernel.org |
| 10:41.04 | pigeon | right... ok... |
| 10:41.18 | pigeon | ta |
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| 10:49.27 | dballester | hi to all |
| 10:49.58 | koen | hey dballester |
| 11:09.09 | Yog | hi ... as I'm running out of disk space on my gpe build in my vm ... how many gb does such a build normally take ? |
| 11:09.49 | koen | 4-5gb |
| 11:11.04 | Yog | well, I have created 5gb disk, that will be tight |
| 11:12.26 | Philippe | Kog my latest build took 3.7GB |
| 11:12.58 | Philippe | s/K/Y/ |
| 11:14.45 | Yog | it just started to compile die X libraries for gpe at @3.7 GB (was an empty install) |
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| 11:33.52 | reenoo | Yog: check if libgcc_s.so is in the image before flashing though |
| 11:36.00 | Yog | oke, thanks. |
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| 12:23.48 | Yog | top |
| 12:24.28 | koen | bottom |
| 12:33.39 | Yog | wrong console ;-) |
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| 13:24.26 | florian | hi all |
| 13:24.49 | koen | hey florian |
| 13:25.00 | koen | enjoying the day off? |
| 13:26.21 | florian | hi koen |
| 13:26.47 | florian | yes i do :-) actually i have a little bit of work todo today, but not that much :-) |
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| 13:27.52 | TyggerBob | morning all |
| 13:27.52 | koen | hey TyggerBob |
| 13:28.23 | TyggerBob | Hey koen |
| 13:28.25 | florian | hi TyggerBob |
| 13:28.26 | TyggerBob | get my list? |
| 13:28.30 | TyggerBob | morning florian |
| 13:28.34 | koen | TyggerBob: yes |
| 13:28.44 | koen | linbet 1.1 is being a bitch to build |
| 13:28.59 | koen | trying to run generated binaries and stuff like that |
| 13:29.16 | TyggerBob | yeah.. |
| 13:29.36 | koen | I did put all the OE thc stuff in one dir |
| 13:29.40 | koen | hydra and rut |
| 13:29.45 | TyggerBob | I had actually built it on the skiffs when I was using it |
| 13:29.56 | TyggerBob | and amap |
| 13:30.10 | TyggerBob | that's theirs too, I think |
| 13:30.29 | koen | yes |
| 13:33.14 | TyggerBob | the libnet thing has always been a pain for security testers.. |
| 13:33.33 | TyggerBob | dsniff is awesome to have, but uses libnet 1.0, while all the newer tools all use libnet 1.1 |
| 13:34.11 | TyggerBob | brb |
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| 14:37.20 | TyggerBob | hrm.. must have split when I wasn't looking |
| 14:38.42 | koen | ooops |
| 14:39.06 | TyggerBob | Yeah.. I don't think my boss is very happy |
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| 14:45.56 | koen | hey mallum |
| 14:46.08 | mallum | hey koen |
| 14:46.37 | koen | mallum: what does LIBGNOME_CURRENT = 1000 do? |
| 14:46.44 | koen | libtool breaks on it |
| 14:46.51 | koen | changing it ti 100 works |
| 14:47.00 | koen | mallum: you being a gnome expert and all :) |
| 14:47.20 | koen | s/ti/to/ |
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| 14:49.47 | koen | ~lart python |
| 14:50.06 | koen | ~lart gnome-python and all it's deps |
| 14:55.08 | TyggerBob | hehehe.. |
| 14:55.14 | TyggerBob | sounds like you're having fun, koen |
| 14:56.22 | koen | TyggerBob: it started with "let's make a scap of hal-device-manager on my corgi" |
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| 14:57.24 | koen | hey tigrux |
| 14:57.51 | tigrux | Good afternoon master koen |
| 14:57.53 | tigrux | Hello people. |
| 14:59.08 | TyggerBob | Hi tigrux |
| 14:59.39 | tigrux | Hello my relative TyggerBob |
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| 15:01.51 | koen | it seems everywhere I encounter python stuff randomly breaks |
| 15:04.38 | ade|desk | koen: stap away from the bitbake svn |
| 15:04.44 | ade|desk | s/stap/step |
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| 15:59.27 | florian | what happened to the oe newsletter article at hh.org? |
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| 16:00.49 | koen | florian: no idea |
| 16:00.54 | koen | hey luis |
| 16:16.25 | TyggerBob | re all |
| 16:16.35 | TyggerBob | back from picking up son from school |
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| 16:23.29 | koen | hey france_ |
| 16:23.39 | france_ | koen: hi |
| 16:24.22 | TyggerBob | HI france_ |
| 16:24.30 | france_ | TyggerBob: Hello! |
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| 16:41.29 | TyggerBob | whew.. my boss isn't pissed at me for missing the meeting.. |
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| 16:59.11 | koen | florian: you need to restart the cvstrc thingie, since hh.org got rebooted |
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| 18:21.55 | DougT | koen: ping? |
| 18:32.10 | koen | DougT: pong |
| 18:33.08 | DougT | hi koen |
| 18:33.18 | koen | hey DougT |
| 18:33.19 | DougT | just wondering about the minimo feed... |
| 18:33.37 | DougT | i don't see it in ipkgfind.handhelds.org |
| 18:34.05 | koen | yeah |
| 18:34.26 | koen | the powers that be need to add 0.8.1, 0.8..2 and unstable to ipkgfind |
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| 18:34.59 | DougT | got it. |
| 18:35.06 | florian | re |
| 18:35.13 | DougT | but it is in the unstable feed, right? |
| 18:49.17 | koen | pb said he uploaded it |
| 18:50.41 | koen | otherwise you could use http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/feed/minimo_0.0cvs20050510-r8_arm.ipk |
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| 19:06.06 | TyggerBob | koen, any new toys for me to try? |
| 19:10.47 | koen | not yet |
| 19:12.24 | koen | florian: wb |
| 19:14.41 | TyggerBob | :) |
| 19:15.42 | koen | 21:15 < CIA-9> koen * r1.3318 openembedded/packages/meta/meta-sectest-gpe.bb: add hydra, thcrut and driftnet to the sectest image |
| 19:15.47 | koen | there you are |
| 19:16.13 | koen | although driftnet will be pretty slow |
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| 19:18.03 | koen | hey pb_ |
| 19:21.21 | pb_ | koen: hello |
| 19:25.06 | koen | TyggerBob: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/sectest-gpe-image-h3900-20050516175243.rootfs.jffs2 |
| 19:29.13 | florian | hey pb |
| 19:29.13 | florian | eh pb_ |
| 19:29.47 | pb_ | florian: good evening! |
| 19:30.08 | france_ | pb_: hi |
| 19:30.28 | florian | hi france_ |
| 19:30.36 | france_ | florian: hello! |
| 19:30.38 | pb_ | france: hello! |
| 19:32.00 | florian | france_: does hh.org suffer from data loss? |
| 19:34.40 | TyggerBob | sweet.. |
| 19:34.46 | TyggerBob | I love driftnet |
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| 19:49.48 | france_ | florian: it suffers from many things, today repairing backup server |
| 19:50.06 | france_ | florian: and secondary dns, time, ldap, kerberos server |
| 19:50.15 | france_ | florian: things are in sad shape |
| 19:50.28 | france_ | florian: I hope to have things back to working by Friday. |
| 19:50.45 | france_ | florian: then I can start on the website, geeklog is full of issues. |
| 19:51.31 | france_ | florian: if you find any new bugs, send a note to admin@handhelds.org so I do not forget. |
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| 19:51.47 | mimecar | hi |
| 19:56.03 | mimecar | I would like test GPE |
| 19:56.17 | mimecar | actual version is usable for daily |
| 19:56.19 | mimecar | ? |
| 19:59.59 | ||cw | 0.8.2 |
| 20:00.12 | ||cw | depending on what device you have |
| 20:00.28 | ||cw | check the supported devices list |
| 20:00.38 | mimecar | I have collie |
| 20:00.58 | mimecar | I know there'are basical apps |
| 20:01.15 | mimecar | but datebook looks very simple |
| 20:01.47 | mimecar | is there some guide for newbies ? |
| 20:02.13 | mimecar | (I'm reading gpe faq) |
| 20:02.17 | ||cw | the wiki has a lot of good info |
| 20:02.33 | ||cw | and the familiar install guide is easy to follow |
| 20:02.35 | ||cw | generaly |
| 20:03.24 | mimecar | Is there a file manager? |
| 20:05.20 | ||cw | yes, not installed by default |
| 20:05.45 | mimecar | is easy install programs (I have Opie currently) |
| 20:06.03 | ||cw | yes, they are the same |
| 20:06.17 | ||cw | opie and gpe have the same base system |
| 20:06.28 | ||cw | think of them like kde and gnome |
| 20:06.39 | mimecar | Can I save data on SD and read it on PC ? |
| 20:06.55 | ||cw | except that opie doesn't use X11 and gpe does so you can't run ones apps in the other |
| 20:07.00 | mimecar | such as calendar, address.... and opening on pc with some program |
| 20:07.04 | ||cw | of course |
| 20:07.08 | mimecar | yes, I know |
| 20:07.16 | mimecar | what programs on PC side ? |
| 20:07.31 | ||cw | well, you can actualy run gpe's programs on a PC if you compile them |
| 20:07.38 | ||cw | or use can use multisync |
| 20:07.59 | ||cw | I sync mine with evolution2.0 |
| 20:08.50 | mimecar | I can't sync with opie |
| 20:08.59 | mimecar | usb doesn't work very well for me |
| 20:09.16 | mimecar | that's the reason I must open files directly |
| 20:09.22 | mimecar | or sync with SD |
| 20:10.36 | mimecar | gpe calendar save ical ? |
| 20:14.10 | mimecar | I go to dinner |
| 20:14.17 | florian | france_: oops... looks like my wireless connection is not that stable. |
| 20:18.04 | ||cw | mimecar: it shouldn't be hard to trick gpe-sync into working off a local file, link ~/.gpe to your dir on the cd card and setup per the howto but config your desktop in place of the handheld, it's just ssh and you can ssh to your local pc |
| 20:19.13 | florian | france_: right... i noticed that geeklog lost the last story. |
| 20:23.42 | florian | france_: but your plan sounds very good :-) |
| 20:23.59 | mimecar | I'm here |
| 20:24.56 | mimecar | ||cw: can i create symlink with gpe filemanager ? |
| 20:25.16 | mimecar | I want download gpe ipkg and install from SD |
| 20:25.31 | ||cw | mimecar: no idea, i prefer the command line, but I have wireless so I can just ssh to my handheld |
| 20:25.41 | mimecar | yes |
| 20:26.01 | mimecar | I haven't wireless or ethernet CF :( |
| 20:26.25 | ||cw | i don't think you can install the OS from an SD card, but you can install packages from a card using the ipgk tool |
| 20:27.44 | mimecar | only packages |
| 20:27.44 | mimecar | I will get GPE image from openzaurus |
| 20:27.52 | mimecar | and save on CF |
| 20:28.54 | mimecar | file manager needs dependences ? |
| 20:29.48 | ReleaseX | i wish i could get my wireless card to work heh |
| 20:30.51 | mimecar | ReleaseX: I wish I have some card |
| 20:32.38 | france_ | florian: thanks |
| 20:32.47 | ReleaseX | i would be a very happy person if i could get it working |
| 20:33.16 | ||cw | mimecar: probably does, do "ipgk info gpe-filemanager" |
| 20:33.26 | koen|tv | florian: how hard would it be to add duplicate checking (first+lastname are the same) and merging the info in libgpepimc? |
| 20:33.28 | ||cw | ReleaseX: what card? |
| 20:34.00 | mimecar | ||cw: that comand will say me files aren't installed aren't you ? |
| 20:34.17 | ||cw | mimecar: it should tell you al about it |
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| 20:34.44 | mimecar | ok |
| 20:34.47 | ReleaseX | ||cw it's a symbol spectrum high rate LA4317 |
| 20:34.56 | mimecar | I don't want get crazy with dependences |
| 20:35.04 | mimecar | since I can't sync |
| 20:35.20 | ||cw | ReleaseX: googled abit for just linux to see if drivers are out there? |
| 20:35.44 | florian | koen: That would be a job for gpe-contacts... i don't think that it is too complicated. |
| 20:35.54 | ReleaseX | ||cw: there are, but i just can't seem to get it working |
| 20:36.55 | koen | florian: would that work with *-import too ? |
| 20:37.13 | ||cw | ReleaseX: does the driver load? |
| 20:37.25 | ReleaseX | ||cw: no |
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| 20:41.41 | ||cw | koen: is the handheld even fast enough to matter? |
| 20:42.33 | koen | ||cw: 16bit pcmcia might be fast enough, but it would stop messing up my wifi network |
| 20:42.56 | ||cw | i guess G and wpa would be nice though |
| 20:43.14 | ||cw | even if it was limited to slow speeds |
| 20:46.37 | mimecar | ||cw: can I install programs on SD ? |
| 20:47.07 | ||cw | yes, using a -d on ipkg and the ipkg-link tool |
| 20:47.19 | florian | koen: not aout of the box, but when we make a libcontactsdb it would move there automatically. |
| 20:47.43 | ||cw | but you'll probably need to format the card with ext2, then you can't use it in windows or other non-linux devices |
| 20:48.03 | koen | a "merge duplicates" button in gpe-contacts would do for the time being |
| 20:48.40 | koen | ~lart osx 10.4 for breaking the ext2 driver |
| 20:50.13 | florian | koen: yep |
| 20:57.14 | TyggerBob | I'll keep you posted |
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| 20:59.09 | TyggerBob | see you all later |
| 20:59.54 | koen | later TyggerBob |
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| 21:47.20 | koen | 'night all |
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| 23:14.43 | florian | good night |
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| 23:43.01 | Philippe | goodnight |
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