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| 00:50.23 | cw2 | tommie: did you log off and back on? |
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| 01:48.11 | TyggerBob | Anyone here? |
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| 01:51.12 | TyggerBob | joshua_, you around? |
| 01:54.41 | joshua_ | yup |
| 01:55.56 | TyggerBob | Do you know what the URL is for the GPE unstable feed? |
| 01:56.09 | joshua_ | nope, sorry |
| 01:56.15 | TyggerBob | no problem |
| 01:56.20 | TyggerBob | I'll ask Koen tomorrow |
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| 08:09.23 | rob_w-cgi | hi florian , what do u think of integrating obextools in order to be able to sent files via command line ? |
| 08:10.15 | rob_w-cgi | as gpe-filemanager is still under heavy development, or revert the patch on bt applet in order to be able to sent again , as it is integrated also in irda still ? |
| 08:10.47 | florian_hrz | hi all |
| 08:11.39 | florian_hrz | hmm... imho obex should work from filemanager. using gnome-vfs/dbus we can easily use it. |
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| 08:21.25 | koen|z | hey florian_hrz |
| 08:21.34 | florian_hrz | hi koen|z |
| 08:21.47 | koen|z | hey rob_w-cgi |
| 08:26.34 | rob_w-cgi | florian but is there a stable way to install filemanager ? |
| 08:27.38 | florian_hrz | as soon as i update the gnome-vfs/dbus package |
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| 08:39.27 | florian_hrz | hi mallum |
| 08:40.18 | mallum | hey florian_hrz |
| 08:42.02 | koen|z | hey mallum |
| 08:43.45 | mallum | hey koen |
| 08:49.54 | florian_hrz | brb |
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| 09:12.20 | bedboi | hi there |
| 09:13.16 | koen | hey bedboi |
| 09:15.15 | koobla_ | oh, seems i killed my installation: added an additional user and killed the default one, now gpe cannot find the ~/.gpe directory any more :) |
| 09:15.56 | koen | hmmm |
| 09:16.02 | koen | that sounds like a bug |
| 09:16.37 | koobla_ | it seems like a skeleton dir is needed that creates the .gpe dir when adding new users. |
| 09:17.48 | florian_hrz | I dond't think so... there is no default user and libgpewidget takes care about .gpe as soon as the first application is started. |
| 09:18.26 | koobla_ | hhhm, ok, I'll reset it and see |
| 09:18.42 | florian_hrz | If you delete a user its homedir is deleted as well... |
| 09:18.58 | koobla_ | right, thats just what i expected. |
| 09:19.27 | koobla_ | btw, i wanted to change the user, because i did not enter a user name for the first one(!) |
| 09:19.56 | koobla_ | jop. seems that deleted /home when i removed that user.. |
| 09:20.14 | koobla_ | still cant create ~/.gpe :) |
| 09:21.51 | koobla_ | well, i'll flash it soon anyway |
| 09:23.49 | florian_hrz | uh... looks like we should verify the user name... |
| 09:30.24 | koobla_ | dumb-user errors :) |
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| 09:56.38 | rob_w-cgi | did anyone build meta-sdk so far ( for target arm-architecture ) |
| 09:57.03 | koen | nope, cairo breaks libgpewidget |
| 09:57.46 | florian_hrz | ah right... i'll try to fix this later. |
| 09:59.21 | koen | ~whaleslap cairo people |
| 09:59.22 | ibot | ACTION slaps cairo people upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 09:59.29 | koen | there |
| 10:01.27 | florian_hrz | :-) |
| 10:08.24 | mallum | is the libgpewidget using autotools now ? |
| 10:08.35 | florian_hrz | yep |
| 10:08.39 | mallum | couldn't you just make cairo an explicit option in that ? |
| 10:08.44 | mallum | i.e. --enable-cairo |
| 10:08.54 | mallum | or even better |
| 10:08.59 | florian_hrz | i did this.... thats a good idea. |
| 10:09.06 | mallum | --enable-cairo ( EXPERIMENTAL ) |
| 10:09.14 | florian_hrz | koen: which verison of libgpewidget do we have in oe? |
| 10:10.23 | koen | 0.100 |
| 10:10.44 | florian_hrz | okay... |
| 10:11.08 | koen | I think the cairo people did their evil stuff while I was away |
| 10:12.27 | florian_hrz | hmm yes.. they semm to do evil stuff all the time :-/ |
| 10:12.36 | mallum | florian_hrz: there not doing anything evil |
| 10:12.45 | mallum | florian_hrz: there trying to get the API right |
| 10:12.54 | mallum | florian_hrz: theres no guarentees the API is stable |
| 10:13.01 | mallum | florian_hrz: thus not a proper release |
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| 10:13.09 | mallum | florian_hrz: its GPE that is doing evil stuff |
| 10:13.16 | koen | gpe should get rid of the cvs deps |
| 10:13.23 | florian_hrz | mallum: right |
| 10:13.25 | mallum | florian_hrz: by depending on cairo in the first place before its released |
| 10:14.38 | florian_hrz | mallum: but you must admit that noone could use it at all until it is released and they are developing for _years_ now without a single release. |
| 10:15.08 | mallum | florian_hrz: right, but thats there choice |
| 10:15.33 | florian_hrz | koen: then remove the "--enable-cairo" from the bb, the 0.100 defaults to have cairo disabled. |
| 10:16.34 | koen | does that break other apps? |
| 10:17.12 | florian_hrz | it shouldn't do this... it should work properly - i don't have cairo-dev on most of my machines. |
| 10:17.26 | florian_hrz | but gpe :-) |
| 10:26.41 | koen | ~botmail for florian_kc: I disabled cairosupport in OE now |
| 10:28.00 | mallum | koen|lunch: rock |
| 10:32.20 | tommie | Gna, just tried to install gpdf |
| 10:32.27 | tommie | | Package gconf wants to install file /usr/bin/gconftool-2 |
| 10:32.27 | tommie | | But that file is already provided by package gconf-dbus |
| 10:32.33 | tommie | and some others |
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| 10:37.11 | florian_kc | re |
| 10:37.22 | florian_kc | koen|lunch: great, thanks |
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| 10:51.50 | rob_w-cgi | hurray i get the gui for the gomunicator aka gphone |
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| 10:57.21 | mallum | rob_w: gomunicator ? |
| 11:00.38 | rob_w-cgi | heheh some started a gsm app called gphone which supports the gsm jacket for 3XXX ipaq`s ,, as there is already a commercial voip app with that name i am planning to rename it |
| 11:01.03 | rob_w-cgi | and gomunicator is my first try ... i am planning to extend the app to be able to use cf gsm cards |
| 11:01.06 | rob_w-cgi | brb |
| 11:10.04 | mallum | rob_w-cgi: very nice |
| 11:19.08 | florian_kc | hmm... sounds cool |
| 11:32.49 | lardman | florian_kc: I see you've done some work on qpegps |
| 11:34.07 | lardman | florian_kc: Looking at this post http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=7172908&forum_id=9990 |
| 11:34.31 | lardman | florian_kc: Is there hope of patching qpegps - in fact are the maintainers of that app going to patch it themselves? |
| 11:35.58 | koen | why not use gpsdrive? |
| 11:35.58 | koen | and fix that |
| 11:35.58 | lardman | not for me, for an opie user |
| 11:35.59 | koen | eeks! |
| 11:35.59 | lardman | good point, why am I asking this in #gpe I wonder |
| 11:35.59 | lardman | :) |
| 11:45.00 | koen | w! |
| 11:47.42 | florian_kc | lardman|lunch: definitely not... that must be someone else. |
| 12:17.24 | lardman | florian_kc: Okay, sorry for the confusion |
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| 12:54.16 | dballester | hi to all |
| 12:54.25 | koen | hey dballester |
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| 13:31.41 | koen | mallum: any chance your mb-stroke speedup will be in svn soon? |
| 13:36.56 | mallum | koen: one sec |
| 13:40.43 | mallum | koen: committed |
| 13:42.48 | koen | ok, I'll start a build |
| 13:48.35 | mallum | koen: still not usable but should be much faster |
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| 13:49.23 | koen | mallum: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.581.png |
| 13:50.05 | mallum | koen: ;) |
| 13:50.08 | mallum | koen: faster ? |
| 13:50.16 | koen | much |
| 13:50.24 | mallum | cool |
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| 13:50.42 | TyggerBob | morning all |
| 13:50.42 | mallum | koen: all the bits are more or less there now I just have to make it recognise better |
| 13:51.06 | mallum | koen: also I have to convert the xstroke alphabet to strokes.xml :( |
| 13:51.13 | koen | hey TyggerBob |
| 13:51.23 | TyggerBob | koen: I know you told me a few weeks ago, but can you tell me the url for the unstable feed for GPE? |
| 13:51.27 | koen | mallum: can't you write an awk script for that |
| 13:51.48 | koen | TyggerBob: ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/feed |
| 13:52.08 | rob_w-cgi | i get a "blocksize too small for this device " when i mount ext2fs sd card .. do i need to specify a different blocksize on mount or when i create the fs ? |
| 13:55.29 | TyggerBob | Thanks |
| 13:55.53 | koen | TyggerBob: make sure you wipe the lists/ dir after using it |
| 13:56.05 | koen | 13k of ipkgs will hurt performance very much |
| 13:57.00 | TyggerBob | Ok... |
| 13:57.22 | TyggerBob | Does USB Networking work these days? |
| 13:57.35 | koen | it should with hh39 |
| 13:57.36 | TyggerBob | I never used it at home, but I don't have wireless access from the office |
| 13:57.45 | koen | it should even work with xp now |
| 13:57.57 | koen | having RNDIS support and all |
| 14:01.16 | TyggerBob | Oooo.. cool |
| 14:02.02 | TyggerBob | hrmmm |
| 14:02.12 | TyggerBob | is there anything particular to do to get XP to recognize the device? |
| 14:02.32 | koen | some .inf file iirc |
| 14:02.38 | lardman | it's on zug |
| 14:02.44 | lardman | or in the kernel source docs |
| 14:02.45 | XorA | linux/Documents/usb/linux.inf |
| 14:02.49 | lardman | quite |
| 14:03.19 | lardman | be careful though - it kills my entire winxp usb system (req a reboot as ever) sometimes |
| 14:03.29 | TyggerBob | Oh.. nice.. ;) |
| 14:04.13 | XorA | works fine on XP here however |
| 14:04.32 | TyggerBob | now when you say zug, that's the Zaurus user's Group? |
| 14:04.34 | TyggerBob | I assume? |
| 14:04.55 | koen | that's the blackhole for Z documentation |
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| 14:05.37 | koen | hey Cwiiis[uni] |
| 14:09.20 | TyggerBob | grr.. anyone have a url for that file? |
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| 14:10.11 | XorA | TyggerBob: its on linux-usb.org on the gadgets page |
| 14:12.18 | lardman | koen: blackhole - you mean it all gets poured in, but what comes out cannot possibly be turned back into what it was originally? |
| 14:13.19 | koen | lardman: something like that |
| 14:13.28 | lardman | XorA: just you wait - I can't quite remember how I managed to do it, but it's happened a couple of times now |
| 14:13.31 | koen | it seems OZ doesn't have docs online |
| 14:13.46 | lardman | koen: starting to pull it all together at oz.org |
| 14:14.00 | TyggerBob | Ok.. does it work with 2.4 or only 2.6? Most of the references to it seem to point to 2.6 |
| 14:14.12 | koen | I dislike forums, so I'm a bit prejudiced |
| 14:14.25 | koen | TyggerBob: it was backported into the hh.org 2.4 kernel |
| 14:14.33 | lardman | I used to dislike irc - time consuming |
| 14:14.34 | TyggerBob | ok |
| 14:14.53 | lardman | but that's also good because you can get immediate replies |
| 14:19.34 | XorA | lardman: Ive been running RNDIS since the first day RP put it in, coz I asked him to :-) |
| 14:19.42 | XorA | lardman: and use it everyday |
| 14:19.52 | XorA | lardman: smacks of hardware failure on your machine |
| 14:24.28 | lardman | XorA: two different machines, brought down by the Z |
| 14:25.16 | lardman | XorA: reboot fixes WinXP (then I can use other usb stuff), reboot fixes Z (otherwise it'll kill the machine again) |
| 14:25.46 | lardman | XorA: speaking of which, how can I reset the kernel modules if they're compiled in? |
| 14:25.54 | XorA | lardman: you cant |
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| 14:26.10 | lardman | XorA: ok, that's what I thought |
| 14:27.03 | XorA | lardman: you can attempt ifdown usb0l; ifup usb0 that clears some stuff |
| 14:27.36 | TyggerBob | Ok.. I've looked throught linux-usb.org back and forth.. where are they hiding the .inf file? |
| 14:27.43 | lardman | XorA: I tried all of that - and even though it appeared to work, the XP machine would never recover |
| 14:28.01 | koen | TyggerBob: in the kernel-source |
| 14:28.51 | koen | a 2.6 kernel should have it |
| 14:29.07 | lardman | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=11320&st=30&p=73169&#entry73169 |
| 14:29.19 | lardman | be careful of the event horizon though ;) |
| 14:29.33 | XorA | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=409 |
| 14:30.10 | XorA | lardman: machines wouldnt be dell by any chance? |
| 14:30.13 | XorA | lardman: or compaq? |
| 14:30.21 | lardman | XorA: yes they are |
| 14:30.28 | lardman | XorA: Dell, why? |
| 14:30.34 | XorA | lardman: well then they are probably not USB compliant |
| 14:30.40 | TyggerBob | Found it |
| 14:30.41 | TyggerBob | thanks |
| 14:30.59 | XorA | TyggerBob: sorry, linux-usb must have removed the link since I last looked |
| 14:31.23 | lardman | XorA: I see. From the changelog from 11-12 I saw some mods to rndos, I'd just assumed that these problems were showing up on my computer |
| 14:31.35 | lardman | s/rndos/rndis |
| 14:32.05 | XorA | lardman: only problem I see on RNDIS is after suspend sometimes I need to reboot Z to get it to talk again |
| 14:32.23 | XorA | lardman: but Ive never nuked a machine |
| 14:33.00 | lardman | XorA: My usb hardware says it's an Intel 82801FB/FBM USB Host Controller |
| 14:33.23 | lardman | XorA: I can't see any particular reason why it wouldn't be compliant |
| 14:33.57 | XorA | lardman: well a) Intel didnnt do a particularly good job on some of their chipsets, b) you need all the analogue stuff wired right as well |
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| 14:34.18 | TyggerBob | XorA: no problem... |
| 14:34.23 | XorA | lardman: Ive seen machines where the spark when you insert a usb device is enough to make machine reboot |
| 14:34.24 | lardman | XorA: Okay. In any case, if I manage to do it again I'll note the conditions while cursing ;) |
| 14:34.30 | TyggerBob | now I just have to figure out how to install it.. |
| 14:34.43 | XorA | lardman: and its always compaq/dells/hp I find these problems on |
| 14:35.37 | lardman | XorA: I'll bear it in mind when I upgrade |
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| 14:45.05 | stealth | when I connect through arial to a network it says connected sucessfully, yet I am not and have no ip address. even if i select additional info and check dhcpd. I dont have dhcpd from the cli either. Gpe does not come with dhcpd? |
| 14:47.03 | TyggerBob | it's udhpc |
| 14:47.13 | TyggerBob | ie.. udhcpc wlan0 |
| 14:47.28 | koen | udhcpc -i wlan0 even |
| 14:47.31 | TyggerBob | oops |
| 14:47.33 | TyggerBob | yeah |
| 14:47.54 | stealth | well, arial dosent do it? |
| 14:48.27 | TyggerBob | is the interface set for dhcp in the network settings/ |
| 14:48.28 | TyggerBob | ? |
| 14:48.34 | stealth | yea |
| 14:48.50 | TyggerBob | can you get a dhcp address with another machine? |
| 14:48.51 | stealth | even if i select additional info and check dhcpd. |
| 14:49.11 | TyggerBob | is it your AP? |
| 14:49.19 | stealth | this is my college, i know it has dhcdp |
| 14:49.28 | stealth | dhcpd |
| 14:49.43 | florian_kc | *yawn* |
| 14:50.38 | florian_kc | gpe-aerial should try to get an ip adress via dhcp... |
| 14:51.16 | stealth | running udhcpd from cli I get unable to open config file /etc/udhcpd.conf |
| 14:51.41 | stealth | is there a general one somewhere? |
| 14:51.50 | TyggerBob | stealth: most colleges I've seen have some web authentication interface you need to complete to get a dhcp address. could this be the case here? |
| 14:51.59 | stealth | well acctually it still says udhcpd started |
| 14:52.31 | TyggerBob | Ok.. I give up on this damned usbnet thing. |
| 14:52.36 | TyggerBob | for now anyway |
| 14:52.56 | Eseob | the same happened to me - not worth the worries^^ |
| 14:53.11 | stealth | TyggerBob, yea bluesocket .. but I cant get to it... this applys for this bar in my neighborhood also which i need nothing but the essid |
| 14:53.57 | TyggerBob | stealth: have you tried iwconfig <interface> mode managed essid <essid> ? |
| 14:54.20 | stealth | no, isnt arial suppose to do that? |
| 14:54.31 | TyggerBob | worth a try, though |
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| 14:57.16 | stealth | ok i will try it, thanks all |
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| 15:14.06 | TyggerBob | Wow.. HydraIRC's pretty cool |
| 15:15.06 | XorA | who asked about links x11 yesterday? |
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| 15:25.40 | TyggerBob | hehehe.. |
| 15:25.58 | TyggerBob | Familiar only checks the first 8 characters of the login password.. |
| 15:26.24 | TyggerBob | so even if you put a 10 character password, you only have to get the first 8 right |
| 15:28.28 | florian_kc | hmm yes, i guess tinylogin only supports the classical login stuff... |
| 15:43.56 | tommie | yes, really classical :) |
| 15:44.17 | tommie | but 8 should be enough |
| 15:46.33 | TyggerBob | Depends on the situation, but for the most part, as long as you change it regularly, 8 should be enough |
| 15:48.48 | tommie | yes |
| 15:48.53 | florian_kc | mallum: Can i have a modal window which is not a dialog? |
| 15:49.01 | TyggerBob | also on the 8 you choose, as well :) |
| 15:52.27 | TyggerBob | Interesting side note: sshd/dropbear checks the full 10 :) |
| 15:52.59 | florian_kc | heh |
| 15:53.03 | stealth | i just got back from my college and udhcpc -i wlan0 did the trick, why dosent arial do this? i have dhcpd checked |
| 15:53.38 | tommie | stealth: I dumped aerial and now use a classic /etc/network/interfaces mapping scheme |
| 15:54.47 | florian_kc | TyggerBob: hrm... how does this work? don't they only use the hash in /etc/passwd?! |
| 15:55.17 | florian_kc | stealth: On which image is this? |
| 15:55.26 | stealth | tommie, that dosent help me in an area where im looking for a network :D |
| 15:55.33 | tommie | :) |
| 15:55.51 | stealth | florian_kc, 0.8.2 |
| 15:56.58 | stealth | also how can i resize firefox windows? ive been tabbing and entering dialogs blindly |
| 15:58.22 | TyggerBob | florian_kc, I thought it was odd also |
| 15:58.39 | TyggerBob | when I login through a serial connection, 8 characters worked |
| 15:58.56 | TyggerBob | but when I logged in through the ssh connection, it doesn't |
| 15:59.16 | florian_kc | stealth: thanks... i need to investigat why this fails. |
| 15:59.33 | stealth | no, thank you |
| 15:59.34 | mallum | florian_kc: um, how do you mean |
| 16:00.55 | TyggerBob | stealth, can you not just use aerial to make the connection and then run udhcpc to get an address? |
| 16:01.08 | TyggerBob | btw, Hi mallum |
| 16:01.21 | TyggerBob | anyone here using ppp connectivity to get to the network |
| 16:01.56 | stealth | TyggerBob, i run udhcpc -i wlan0 from cli, and use aerial to set essid and modes |
| 16:02.00 | mallum | hey TyggerBob |
| 16:02.16 | florian_kc | mallum: I hav a normal toplevel window and tell gtk to make it modal and set it transient to a parent. If i do so, matchbox seems to handle it as a dialog. |
| 16:02.31 | mallum | florian_kc: yeah it is a dialog |
| 16:02.58 | stealth | is there anyway to like alt+rightclick (xmonobut) drag a window larger, like fluxbox does? |
| 16:04.33 | mallum | florian_kc: how do you see it working ? |
| 16:07.31 | florian_kc | mallum: so "modal" implies "dialog"? |
| 16:09.07 | florian_kc | mallum: window = gtk_window_new (GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL); |
| 16:09.21 | florian_kc | ... thats a normal window. |
| 16:09.34 | florian_kc | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:09.34 | florian_kc | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:09.56 | florian_kc | makes matchbox treat it like a dialog. |
| 16:11.27 | florian_kc | I expected that's necessary to set the type hint to make it a dialog. |
| 16:15.13 | mallum | florian_kc: unfortunatly most apps dont do that |
| 16:15.33 | mallum | florian_kc: they just set transiency to specify a dialog :( |
| 16:18.57 | florian_kc | mallum: ah i see... that's nasty. |
| 16:21.57 | mallum | florian_kc: I've thought about an anal version of matchbox that does what you suggest |
| 16:22.08 | mallum | florian_kc: so you can group app windows togeather |
| 16:27.27 | florian_kc | mallum: would be better in some cases. does gtk_dialog_new() do this correctly? |
| 16:29.29 | mallum | florian_kc: Im not sure |
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| 16:53.26 | koen | I have a feeling florian_kc is going to ask me something |
| 17:02.31 | florian_kc | koen: Hi koen, how are you today? ;-) |
| 17:02.41 | koen | fine, and you? |
| 17:03.07 | florian_kc | Well.. after breaking gpe-todo i feel fine ;-) |
| 17:22.44 | TyggerBob | sorry all.. |
| 17:22.52 | TyggerBob | back.. had a nice lunch with the wife. |
| 17:32.51 | koen | lunch, wife or both? |
| 17:33.05 | florian_kc | both :-) |
| 17:33.12 | koen | florian_kc: congrats! |
| 17:33.35 | florian_kc | koen: well to be honest... not yet, but almost... |
| 17:33.57 | florian_kc | but lunch! |
| 17:34.27 | koen | RP: cheers |
| 17:35.20 | florian_kc | bbl+ |
| 17:37.25 | TyggerBob | hehehe |
| 17:39.30 | TyggerBob | had some yummy Vietnamese noodle dish... |
| 17:39.49 | TyggerBob | hehehe |
| 17:40.09 | TyggerBob | koen, the war museum was very cool. |
| 17:40.19 | TyggerBob | big section on the liberation of Holland |
| 17:42.02 | koen | hmm, this looks like Law & Order season one |
| 17:45.28 | koen | TyggerBob: did the canadians liberate other countries than holland? |
| 17:55.28 | TyggerBob | we helped out in other places like Italy |
| 17:55.50 | TyggerBob | and others |
| 17:58.00 | TyggerBob | And we had our own beach at DDay |
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| 18:21.50 | TyggerBob | back to this USB on XP thing.. are there supposed to be drivers to go along with that linux.inf file? |
| 18:22.09 | koen | those are included in xp |
| 18:22.15 | koen | the inf activates them |
| 18:22.20 | TyggerBob | hrm.. |
| 18:22.22 | koen | hurray for microsoft! |
| 18:22.59 | ||cw | so, xp has USBnet drivers, but doesn't include a way to use them? |
| 18:23.08 | TyggerBob | ok.. what do you do with the .inf file then to get it to work. |
| 18:23.22 | TyggerBob | I put it in c:\windows\inf, but it still doesn't show up. |
| 18:23.33 | ||cw | try right click->install |
| 18:23.49 | TyggerBob | that didn't work for me.. |
| 18:24.00 | TyggerBob | I still get an unknown device error |
| 18:24.36 | ||cw | reboot? :) |
| 18:24.52 | TyggerBob | ]errr.. no.. |
| 18:25.03 | TyggerBob | hrm... |
| 18:25.06 | TyggerBob | I'll try that |
| 18:27.15 | TyggerBob | brb |
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| 18:43.33 | TyggerBob | re |
| 18:43.58 | koen | hey TyggerBob |
| 18:50.42 | TyggerBob | poop.. I thought I had this USB thing sorted out.. |
| 18:50.59 | TyggerBob | got the driver to install, but I still get the Unrecognized Device thing |
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| 19:08.39 | [1]TyggerBob | re again |
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| 19:10.32 | [1]TyggerBob | Nope.. no joy.. |
| 19:10.42 | [1]TyggerBob | errggg |
| 19:12.51 | [1]TyggerBob | I have the Linux Network device listed now, but when I plug in my iPAQ, I get the "USB not recognized" |
| 19:13.00 | [1]TyggerBob | %s/USB/USB Device/g |
| 19:15.41 | koen | [1]TyggerBob: what usb module to you have loaded? |
| 19:15.49 | koen | you'll need g_ether |
| 19:16.47 | [1]TyggerBob | on the iPAQ? |
| 19:16.56 | koen | yes |
| 19:17.03 | [1]TyggerBob | is it included? |
| 19:17.12 | [1]TyggerBob | or do I need to install it? |
| 19:20.09 | koen | ehm |
| 19:20.21 | koen | no idea, I haven't tried it yet with xp |
| 19:20.25 | koen | see http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.linux.familiar/20492 |
| 19:22.08 | TyggerBob | ok.. that's pretty cool.. hydrairc did that automagically for me! |
| 19:25.43 | Philippe | evening people |
| 19:26.20 | koen | hey Philippe |
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| 19:31.20 | TyggerBob | Evening Philippe |
| 19:32.11 | Philippe | hello koen, TyggerBob |
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| 19:34.40 | florian | re |
| 19:34.47 | TyggerBob | re florian |
| 19:34.52 | koen | hey florian |
| 19:35.07 | TyggerBob | florian, I didn't get a chance to say congrats.. so are you engaged, or engaged to be engaged? |
| 19:35.43 | florian | hehehe |
| 19:37.15 | florian | TyggerBob: Yes i am... :-) |
| 19:37.30 | Philippe | hi florian |
| 19:37.54 | Philippe | florian, and congratulations it seems :-) |
| 19:38.24 | florian | thanks :-) |
| 19:45.46 | mallum | florian: woohoo :) |
| 19:45.51 | mallum | florian: congrats |
| 19:46.05 | TyggerBob | oops.. looks like I started something |
| 19:46.16 | TyggerBob | hey.. let's start a rumour about Koen next |
| 19:46.29 | mallum | koens wears cloggs ? |
| 19:46.35 | florian | *gg* |
| 19:46.43 | koen | ~dict cloggs |
| 19:46.50 | TyggerBob | I said a rumour.. we all KNOW he wears cloggs |
| 19:47.26 | TyggerBob | ~dict clogs |
| 19:47.35 | koen | wooden shoes? |
| 19:47.43 | TyggerBob | yeah |
| 19:48.37 | TyggerBob | hrm.. there are some swanky looking clogs out there: |
| 19:48.37 | TyggerBob | http://www.clogsonline.com/IBS/SimpleCat/Shelf/ASP/Hierarchy/0301.html |
| 19:49.07 | TyggerBob | not sure I'd pay $130US for wooden shoes thouhg |
| 19:50.01 | koen | that are what we call "swedish cloggs" |
| 19:50.29 | koen | ah it says it on the webpage too |
| 19:51.00 | koen | florian: sounds like you will be IRCless in the near future |
| 19:52.17 | mallum | koen: smartass |
| 19:54.06 | koen | hmmm |
| 19:54.23 | koen | anybody got an idea what I can do with 120GB of storage on my ipaq? |
| 19:55.26 | TyggerBob | that's one heck of an SD card |
| 19:55.44 | TyggerBob | I need one of those for my digital camera |
| 19:56.10 | Philippe | koen, 120GB???? OE builds I would say :-) |
| 19:56.15 | koen | :) |
| 19:56.28 | koen | TyggerBob: usb disk via my ratoc card |
| 19:56.59 | TyggerBob | sweet |
| 19:57.06 | koen | gphoto doesn't work, so I can't use my ixus |
| 19:57.19 | TyggerBob | koen's obviously not married either.. |
| 19:57.25 | TyggerBob | he has all the toys |
| 19:57.45 | koen | TyggerBob: my girlfriend conficated my 2210 |
| 19:58.10 | koen | after she discovered it can play divx pretty good |
| 19:59.30 | TyggerBob | hehehe |
| 19:59.32 | Philippe | TyggerBob, I would say koen seems to have a girlfriend that can potentially buy him cool toys... |
| 19:59.39 | koen | TyggerBob: you have your cool basement with computer stuff |
| 19:59.50 | TyggerBob | well... yeah.. that's true.. |
| 20:00.05 | TyggerBob | my 3 year old son's discovered Microsoft Train Simulator |
| 20:01.10 | TyggerBob | He now knows how to drive the steam train.. pulls this lever to control the throttle, this one to turn off the brakes, this one to set it to forward, and worst of all, this one to blow the whistle |
| 20:01.13 | koen | TyggerBob: I showed my girlfriend the picture of your son with the nutcracker and she went "ooooh, how sweet" |
| 20:01.35 | koen | and she gave me a funny look |
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| 20:02.03 | TyggerBob | oh oh. |
| 20:02.09 | TyggerBob | you're in trouble now |
| 20:02.17 | Philippe | koen, little kid alert! |
| 20:02.42 | koen | indeed |
| 20:02.52 | Philippe | before you know she wants little koens... (maybe considered as embedded koens) |
| 20:04.37 | Philippe | Grr, the backlight control thingy still doesn't seem to work in my last build... |
| 20:05.04 | ||cw | embeded for 9 months |
| 20:05.14 | ||cw | then the process spawns |
| 20:05.27 | TyggerBob | lol |
| 20:05.38 | TyggerBob | yeah.. then it sucks system resources for 20 years |
| 20:06.48 | Philippe | Not thinking about the lost process cycles and context switches. |
| 20:07.09 | TyggerBob | hehehe |
| 20:08.23 | rob_w | hurray i can compile on the ipaq |
| 20:08.36 | TyggerBob | Cool, rob_w |
| 20:08.37 | koen | cheers |
| 20:08.41 | TyggerBob | how did you set it up? |
| 20:08.57 | Philippe | rob_w, also having 120GB on your IPAQ to spare? :-) |
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| 20:10.33 | rob_w | well 1gb sd makes it quite easy |
| 20:10.39 | TyggerBob | I had it working before, with my 512mb sd card and some simlinks, but something got screwed up on the card and I couldn't get it to work after that |
| 20:10.49 | TyggerBob | rob_w, what file system did you put on the SD card? |
| 20:10.55 | rob_w | ipkg-link does a great job |
| 20:10.59 | rob_w | ext2 |
| 20:11.04 | TyggerBob | ahhh |
| 20:11.33 | rob_w | so jffs2 would be possible , right ? |
| 20:11.48 | koen | not recommended |
| 20:11.58 | Philippe | mount times would be huge |
| 20:11.58 | koen | the sd should do it's own wearleveling |
| 20:12.06 | rob_w | ? |
| 20:12.17 | rob_w | whats that |
| 20:12.21 | koen | jffs2 only works on mtd devices |
| 20:12.32 | rob_w | ah that was it |
| 20:12.43 | rob_w | but still what is wearleveling? |
| 20:12.44 | koen | it smears out writecycles to one files over the complete device |
| 20:12.56 | koen | since flash has only 10k - 100k write cycles |
| 20:13.13 | koen | s/files/sector/ |
| 20:13.40 | ||cw | ipkg-link does work well |
| 20:13.54 | rob_w | btw on my 1gd iwas only able to mount a 1024 blocksized ext2 partition of about 700;B |
| 20:14.31 | ||cw | it would be nice if ipkg would automaticaly link when it installs |
| 20:15.03 | rob_w | i like it separated , |
| 20:15.59 | ||cw | what do you mean? |
| 20:15.59 | rob_w | i am now collecting the most needed *-dev`s like gtk+-dev , which btw ipkg.link was not abe to handle , cause if its name i guess |
| 20:16.12 | rob_w | ||cw: never mind |
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| 20:40.46 | reenoo | evening |
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| 20:45.17 | Philippe | evening reenoo |
| 20:46.32 | reenoo | bonsoir Philippe |
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| 20:46.48 | reenoo | (assuming you're from the french speaking part of .be) |
| 20:47.35 | florian | hi reenoo, hi unknown26 |
| 20:47.44 | reenoo | moin florian |
| 20:47.45 | koen | Philippe: It seems we almost met at LSM |
| 20:47.47 | unknown26 | hi florian |
| 20:47.48 | koen | hey unknown26 |
| 20:47.55 | unknown26 | hi koen |
| 20:47.59 | reenoo | hiya unknown26 |
| 20:48.07 | unknown26 | hi reenoo |
| 20:49.33 | reenoo | koen: are there any ipaqs left with totally non-working sd? (apart from the not yet officially supported ones, that is) |
| 20:51.21 | unknown26 | florian: Does kernelconcepts sell any GPE t-shirts? I'm taking a trip to germany and would like to get one. |
| 20:51.32 | Philippe | reenoo, actually from the Dutch/French bilangual part :-) |
| 20:52.10 | Philippe | koen, ah? Maybe this year then? Dijon is closer this time. |
| 20:52.47 | koen | reenoo: I think all ipaqs have working chipset drivers in 2.4 and 2.6 |
| 20:52.49 | rob_w | reenoo 1gb sd is working gracefully here |
| 20:55.30 | florian | unknown26: hmm... sell... not really, but if we still have some you can get one. |
| 20:56.34 | unknown26 | florian: Ok, thanks |
| 20:57.15 | florian | unknown26: i can check this tomorrow... if not we need to ask pb_ who is the master of gpe t-shirts. |
| 20:58.06 | reenoo | Philippe: tres bien :) |
| 20:58.22 | reenoo | koen: thanks for confirming |
| 20:58.53 | unknown26 | florian: I'll stop in here again tomorow then |
| 21:19.59 | koen | 'night all |
| 21:20.09 | Philippe | night koen |
| 21:21.17 | Philippe | florian, do you know somebody (or you know how) that knows on which pins we have to make the connections to unlock the netbook? (the wiki is too vague) |
| 21:22.15 | florian | hmm... |
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| 21:25.36 | florian | Philippe: Do you refer to the section "The Dongle"? |
| 21:26.41 | Philippe | florian, indeed. |
| 21:31.57 | florian | Philippe: that sounds pretty easy... |
| 21:37.51 | Philippe | florian, the one on the bottom. Question is how do you connect a resistor to three pins, and what is right or left? |
| 21:40.17 | florian | Philippe: well... i guess seen with connector on top, mmc slot facing to you. |
| 21:42.14 | florian | Philippe: You won't destroy anything over 50kO, so this part is safe. Pin 1 and 2 should be the same line (i guess it is VCC or ground). |
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| 21:46.09 | florian | Philippe: Peter Naulls or Wookey might know more details. |
| 21:47.12 | Philippe | Wookey didn' t really know. Peter is a good idea, thanks! (Maybe Costas knows if you have a recent e-mail address of him) |
| 21:53.13 | florian | Philippe: not offhand, but my mua at kc might know. |
| 21:59.11 | Philippe | florian, ok thanks already for the help |
| 22:01.14 | florian | Philippe: please remind me if i forget to look if i have this adress. |
| 22:02.24 | Philippe | florian, no prob. |
| 22:20.14 | Philippe | goodnight all |
| 22:21.18 | reenoo | 'night Philippe |
| 22:21.43 | florian | Philippe: good night |
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| 22:51.56 | florian | good night |
| 23:06.14 | reenoo | 'night all |
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