| 00:06.02 | bedboi | hi there how to run a command in daemon mode (i mean not to be child of any console) |
| 00:11.41 | zecke | bedboi: you need to put yourself into a different process group |
| 00:12.02 | zecke | bedboi: man setpgrp |
| 00:12.51 | zecke | man setsid(1) and setsid(2) |
| 00:20.27 | Cwiiis | Or use nohup |
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| 00:42.48 | Releasex | cw2: you still here? |
| 00:47.28 | reenoo | 'night all |
| 01:24.55 | Releasex | i have a symbol spectrum 24 card and I can't seem to get it working |
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| 08:00.19 | rob_w | what would i need to do in order to make florians cross chain compile and link including -lcrypto |
| 08:03.28 | tommie | http://localhost.ruhr.de/~stefan/h5450/linux-everywhere.png *gimp* |
| 08:05.33 | rob_w | kinda blurry for me |
| 08:10.17 | rob_w | tommie: why is it soo blurry ? |
| 08:22.10 | tommie | blurry? |
| 08:30.32 | rob_w | not clear |
| 08:30.50 | rob_w | the penguins are that |
| 08:30.57 | rob_w | but i think that was on purpose |
| 08:35.58 | tommie | I guess :-) |
| 08:36.20 | tommie | If I put you in a washing machine... |
| 08:37.22 | rob_w | aha , it hurts my eyes ,, *where are my glasses? |
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| 09:11.34 | koobla | which x server is best for gpe? xserver-kdrive does not compile :( |
| 09:19.09 | rob_w | Xfbdev i think |
| 09:20.59 | koobla | thanks! |
| 09:21.43 | koobla | seems like it belongs to the kdrive-set of x servers... bad luck. |
| 09:23.07 | rob_w | sure it does , |
| 09:23.13 | XorA | koobla: xserver-kdrive_20050207.bb |
| 09:23.25 | rob_w | you will need to be able to compile kdrive no matter what |
| 09:24.11 | koobla | XorA: thats right where i'm stuck.. |
| 09:24.23 | koobla | well, will dump my work directory again and hope... |
| 09:24.38 | XorA | koobla: oh, that should compile, I created that as last known good version |
| 09:25.22 | koobla | hmmmmmmm. maybe some dependencies got mixed up. |
| 09:25.27 | koobla | will check |
| 09:29.08 | rob_w | i am stuck here with perl missing XML::Parser ? |
| 09:30.17 | koobla | rob_w: you use your own native perl? |
| 09:34.02 | koobla | XorA: do_configure fails because the GL tree misses Makefile.in files (configure.ac:580) |
| 09:34.42 | koobla | XorA: automake complains unknown warning category `cross' - one line before the errors start |
| 09:35.24 | XorA | koobla: odd, that is beyond my knowledge |
| 09:36.12 | rob_w | koobla: dont know ? on my system i ve the files installed but it seems that staging dir doesnt have it |
| 09:37.22 | koobla | rob_w: so you have an ASSUME_PROVIDED.... for perl-native set? then you have to download and install the xml-parser locally |
| 09:38.32 | koobla | XorA: directory mismatch. moved gl to GL and it works - maybe something is screwed on my machine. |
| 09:39.23 | rob_w | no i dont have any ASSUME_PROVIDED -- will i need it to point to my local perl installation ? |
| 09:41.20 | koobla | rob_w: not sure. just make sure you use the right one. my perl is in ...../work/tmp/staging/i686-linux/bin/perl |
| 09:42.39 | rob_w | i ve that binary too but under lib/perl/ i am missing these XML stuff .. i now trying with the ASSUME thing that it maybe uses my own perl on my box |
| 09:44.02 | koobla | rob_w: try to bitbake the oe/packages/perl/libxml-parser-perl-native_2.34.bb package |
| 09:47.37 | rob_w | the assume option works ..thnx |
| 09:48.05 | rob_w | oops . maybe not |
| 09:49.06 | rob_w | it started over at binutils-cross .. so it will take time to see if it works |
| 09:53.55 | rob_w | u mean installing it into staging/.. ? |
| 09:54.53 | rob_w | libxml-parser-perl-native_2.34.bb package i dont have that ? |
| 09:55.28 | rob_w | oh i ve it |
| 09:57.06 | rob_w | and it builds fine |
| 09:57.40 | koobla | don't forget to dump the 'ASSUME*' |
| 10:00.12 | rob_w | hm it still fails .. so to sumarize libxml-parser-perl-native builded fine , i ve no assume option , that should work , right ? |
| 10:02.16 | koobla | think so, yes |
| 10:03.08 | koobla | what do you need it for, anyway? |
| 10:03.28 | rob_w | libgpewidget wants it in its configure |
| 10:04.31 | koobla | ah. ok. |
| 10:05.49 | koobla | maybe you need a native xml parser lib too |
| 10:06.01 | koobla | need to look up the dependencies... |
| 10:06.30 | rob_w | i am now trying to build perl and perl-native separetly .. |
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| 10:10.59 | bedboi | hi there |
| 10:13.51 | koobla | rob_w: I got an staging/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.4/i686-linux-thread-multi/XML/Parser/Expat.pm installed after building the bb |
| 10:14.14 | koobla | and staging/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.4/i686-linux-thread-multi/auto/XML/Parser/Expat/ with .so's |
| 10:15.43 | rob_w | same here |
| 10:15.53 | koobla | you have expat-native installed? |
| 10:16.10 | koobla | for data/spec/work/tmp/staging/i686-linux/lib/libexpat.so* ? |
| 10:16.39 | rob_w | in staging ? |
| 10:17.23 | koobla | right |
| 10:17.33 | rob_w | i ve to wait now ,, perl itself is packaging right now |
| 10:17.48 | koobla | sorry, skip the /data/spec/work/tmp stuff - thats my devel. tree |
| 10:18.18 | koobla | ok, good luck then - must be leaving |
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| 10:19.23 | rob_w | thnx cu |
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| 13:03.41 | lardman | where does sdl-config end up in staging? |
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| 13:04.27 | XorA | lardman: tmp/staging/i686-linux/bin/sdl-config |
| 13:04.41 | XorA | lardman: its the wrong position, but I hate SDL too much to fix it |
| 13:04.54 | lardman | XorA: but it works for the arm SDL? |
| 13:05.10 | lardman | XorA: Gives the correct paths, etc.? |
| 13:06.35 | XorA | lardman: yes |
| 13:07.11 | XorA | lardman: Im guessing SDL doesnt inherit binconfig, that would put it in correct place of tmp/staging/i686-linux/bin/arm-linux/ |
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| 13:10.14 | lardman | XorA: It's a different problem, don;t worry |
| 13:33.13 | XorA | does the simplefilebrowser in matchbox work? |
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| 14:27.33 | bedboi | it seems ffmpeg .bb is broken |
| 14:27.55 | bedboi | it tries to install man in /usr/share |
| 14:34.13 | bedboi | --mandir=${D}${prefix}/man \ is needed to be added in .bb |
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| 14:40.46 | Rob__w | i am missing gcc for compiling , but i thought i remeber it seeing in the feeds ? |
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| 14:46.06 | florian_kc | hi all |
| 14:47.31 | bedboi | hey florian |
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| 15:06.35 | rob_w | florian_kc: how did you create this toolchain ? |
| 15:07.14 | florian_kc | rob_w: with openembedded... it has a pretty nice sdk target. after this i run a script tp fix some .pc files. |
| 15:08.00 | rob_w | could you do this in theory in a way that it would work natively on the ipaq and linking it to a /mnt/card ? |
| 15:09.13 | florian_kc | phew... in theory yes, but why? |
| 15:10.13 | rob_w | i want to programm in a app for the gsm , where i would find it more easy to work directly ... also i have plenty hours a day where i only drive around with the ipaq |
| 15:11.11 | rob_w | would it be much work for you ? |
| 15:11.36 | florian_kc | yes.. that's not that easy. |
| 15:13.05 | rob_w | what is the bigger problem , having the native binary`s for gcc and so , or linking all that into a /media dir ? |
| 15:13.46 | rob_w | all the library` in there are already arm-like , right ? |
| 15:16.54 | rob_w | working directly helps me also as i ve to work some low level hardware things |
| 15:22.34 | rob_w | florian_kc: is there a .bb for this toolchain ? |
| 15:27.32 | rob_w | meta-sdk ? |
| 15:38.00 | florian_kc | rob_w: yep |
| 15:46.52 | rob_w | so meta-sdk against a h3900 architecture should result in what i want , right ? |
| 15:47.44 | florian_kc | right |
| 15:48.15 | rob_w | cool , so i keep my fingers cross(ed) |
| 15:48.18 | florian_kc | rob_w: to fix the .pc files (if necessary) grab this script from the sdk dir... |
| 15:48.40 | rob_w | which one do you mean |
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| 15:51.30 | dballester | hi to all |
| 15:54.02 | rob_w | got it |
| 16:21.45 | lardman | quake1 is in OE if anyone would like to try it out |
| 16:23.39 | anomaly_ | ooer |
| 16:24.03 | lardman | http://students.bath.ac.uk/enpsgp/Zaurus/quake/ |
| 16:24.05 | lardman | might not work |
| 16:24.18 | lardman | for PXA machines only atm, you need to grab the pak files |
| 16:24.58 | anomaly_ | no worries |
| 16:25.00 | anomaly_ | ta |
| 16:30.50 | ||cw | quake 1! omg |
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| 16:45.59 | ReleaseX | hello |
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| 17:02.39 | florian_ | re |
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| 17:51.10 | pb_ | hi all |
| 17:51.50 | florian_ | hey pb_ |
| 17:56.38 | pb_ | florian_: good evening |
| 17:57.30 | florian_ | so... what do i break today? |
| 17:57.39 | florian_ | :-) |
| 18:00.21 | pb_ | hehe |
| 18:00.51 | pb_ | ah, I should finish writing that documentation I started the other day |
| 18:01.15 | florian_ | oh yeah, that would be good... |
| 18:02.29 | florian_ | ah i intended to play with gpe-contacts and gprof |
| 18:02.36 | pb_ | ah, very good |
| 18:06.27 | pb_ | florian_: what's the procedure for documenting signals? Do I put that stuff in the template file, or is there some notation that I can use in the source? |
| 18:06.34 | pb_ | hi mickey |
| 18:07.26 | mickeyl | evening pb_ |
| 18:08.21 | florian_ | pb_: hmm... thats a good question. i guess that's something for template. |
| 18:13.24 | florian_ | hmm is there a way to get a finer granularity with gprof? |
| 18:13.46 | pb_ | finer granularity of what? |
| 18:14.01 | pb_ | within functions, you mean? |
| 18:17.12 | florian_ | yes right... 0.01s seems to be too long for gpe-contacts |
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| 19:27.09 | florian_ | ibot: seen luc? |
| 19:27.12 | ibot | luc <~luc@cs181061195.pp.htv.fi> was last seen on IRC in channel #gpe, 7d 21h 40m 53s ago, saying: 'good night all.'. |
| 19:27.23 | florian_ | hrm |
| 19:31.25 | tapo | hi, I have trouble using x2x from notebook to zaurus/gpe. I made xhost + on zaurus, but x2x on notebook just says nothing |
| 19:31.34 | tapo | hm, probably thats ok :) |
| 19:34.07 | tapo | it is :) |
| 19:37.49 | niko_m | hi , is it posible to use sd cards on Ipaq 3900 with Gpe on it ? |
| 19:38.30 | niko_m | I'm thinking of buying 1giga card |
| 19:38.33 | ||cw | niko_m: "use" yes, but not to run the OS off of |
| 19:38.52 | niko_m | use storage |
| 19:39.03 | ||cw | you can use "dest" and ipkg link to install some stuff to it though |
| 19:39.20 | niko_m | files like pictures and music |
| 19:39.50 | florian_ | niko_m: for storage it is ok, the performance is not perfect but it is expected to work. |
| 19:40.15 | ||cw | tapo: x2x doesn't have output, just move the mouse off the screen and see if it picks up on the handheld, you won't gte a mouse cursor on the handheld though, but the kb shoudl work and clicking things will work if you can figure out where the poiter is |
| 19:41.13 | tapo | ||cw: yes - I rememered that. how can I activate mouse? |
| 19:41.17 | niko_m | Is there some Brand Name I have to look for or evry card will be ok ? |
| 19:41.42 | ||cw | tapo: you'd have to install a cursor theme, the default one is "transparent" |
| 19:41.51 | ||cw | and i have no idea how to do that |
| 19:42.17 | ||cw | tapo: note that the mouse does work, you just have an invisable pointer |
| 19:42.38 | tapo | yeah, tanks so far |
| 19:43.05 | ||cw | niko_m: i've used kingston and sandisk in my 5555, there isn't a list of "known good or bad" but some cards are "reported" to not ork |
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| 19:45.39 | niko_m | I thinkg I'll get one next week |
| 19:47.35 | niko_m | ||cw Do you know if there is some howto on SD topic ? tanks for fast replay |
| 19:49.02 | tapo | my usb0 on notebooks vanishes from time to time (accessing collie via usbnet) |
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| 19:55.13 | ||cw | niko_m: here's your howto: "plug in, mount /media/card" |
| 19:55.40 | niko_m | ||cw, :) |
| 19:55.54 | ||cw | if that fails, reboot with the card in, you won't even have to mount |
| 19:57.38 | niko_m | ||cw, I hope it will be so easy ... |
| 19:58.02 | rob_w | yep , but sd driver still needs some teaks to not cry so much if it fails |
| 19:59.13 | niko_m | rob_w, If we are talking dirvers what is the orinoco_cs problem with Orinoco Gold cards ? |
| 19:59.44 | rob_w | no idea here |
| 19:59.46 | niko_m | mine works only with hostap_cs ;( |
| 20:00.17 | rob_w | why is that bad ? |
| 20:00.48 | niko_m | I'm used to iwconfig |
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| 20:01.25 | reenoo | evening |
| 20:02.03 | florian_ | hi reenoo |
| 20:02.04 | niko_m | My card works grate on H3600 with opie on it . Very strange bug |
| 20:02.16 | reenoo | moin florian_ |
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| 20:04.31 | rob_wpda | niko_m: my iwconfig works nice on my hostap powered card |
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| 20:05.41 | reenoo | hey beewoolie |
| 20:05.48 | beewoolie | Hey man. |
| 20:06.24 | beewoolie | I had to switch applications because GPE was requiring too much ram. |
| 20:06.39 | beewoolie | reenoo: fyi |
| 20:09.01 | reenoo | beewoolie: oh. what did you switch to? |
| 20:09.33 | beewoolie | I'm back to OPIE. For some reason, it now builds and I've got most of the environment running. |
| 20:09.43 | beewoolie | I don't know what was blocking the builds before. |
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| 20:10.40 | beewoolie | reenoo: It's still a pita to track bugs in it. |
| 20:13.08 | reenoo | beewoolie: ah. that's kind of unfortunate. glad to hear you've got _something_ to work anyway ;) |
| 20:14.39 | beewoolie | reenoo: all of the build's are still in place. I'll get back to it once I've been able to ship something to my client. They don't care which environment I used, but I need something that demos easily. Also, I was getting a little run-down chasing dependencies. I never got the calendar app to bring-up it's UI. |
| 20:15.41 | tapo | hi, I just found the installed package xcursor-transparent-theme - can I deactivate it / install antoher theme? |
| 20:17.21 | tapo | (to activate a mouse cursor) |
| 20:23.45 | florian_ | pb_: one of the bottlenecks in gpe-contacts seems to be the data handling inside of the app. i tried what happens if i replace the code in db_find_tag() by a sqlite call. the speed is almost the same... |
| 20:25.49 | tapo | oh, found something |
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| 20:29.27 | Alfons | hello everybody |
| 20:29.39 | florian_ | hi Alfons |
| 20:30.10 | Alfons | hi florian_ |
| 20:31.31 | Alfons | did somebody manage here to sync Palm with Linux? |
| 20:32.16 | florian_ | It is known to work for several apps, but i never tried. |
| 20:33.53 | ||cw | Alfons: once upon a time, yeah, that's what the various palm sync apps are for.. supported not by us but elsewhere |
| 20:34.18 | tapo | pilot-link and so on. I think kde has some support for that. |
| 20:34.30 | Alfons | ok |
| 20:34.54 | reenoo | ~herring gentoo |
| 20:34.55 | ibot | ACTION whacks gentoo on the side of the head with a large red herring named alfred |
| 20:35.26 | florian_ | reenoo: hey you seem to have a great day today ;-) |
| 20:35.36 | reenoo | yah |
| 20:36.19 | reenoo | the init script dependency handling started blowing up randomly a while back and it's getting worse now |
| 20:37.15 | reenoo | on top of that portage is broken. and I can't upgrade/reinstall it either (chicken-egg thing...) |
| 20:38.32 | tapo | hi, I'ld be happy about some more tips to temporily activate non-transparent x cursor in gpe :-) |
| 20:40.48 | florian_ | hrm... i should add this as a feature to gpe-conf... |
| 20:41.18 | tapo | :) |
| 20:42.10 | reenoo | tapo: there should be a libXcursor.so* in /usr/lib. try moving that to a different location temporarily |
| 20:42.36 | ||cw | reenoo: do you have to log ogg and back on for that to take effect? |
| 20:42.57 | ||cw | or will just connecting x2x do it? |
| 20:43.26 | reenoo | ||cw: dunno about x2x |
| 20:43.46 | ||cw | that's the goal, to gat a pointer for the mouse when using x2x |
| 20:43.50 | ||cw | get^ |
| 20:44.33 | ||cw | cool feature would be a pointer that only shows when you move the cursor |
| 20:45.38 | tapo | reenoo: ah, the transparent cursor theme only works with libXCursor... nice idea. (x2x does not make the cursor visible) |
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| 20:54.58 | tapo | without libXcursor I had a visible cursor, but X didn't come to an end... ok, let's forget that. |
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| 21:35.49 | florian_ | pb_: I think i have a solution for some of the performance issues in gpe-contacts: |
| 21:37.50 | florian_ | We need three database queries in two tables for each person to get a list of persons. |
| 21:38.41 | florian_ | I think we can reduce this overhead to one query for the whole list easily... |
| 21:40.27 | florian_ | The only thing we need to do is to store the fields that go to the person struct itself (name and family name) in contacts_urn |
| 22:06.16 | pb_ | florian_: okay, that could make sense |
| 22:09.31 | Luke-Jr | hmm |
| 22:09.35 | Luke-Jr | my gpe-appmgr zombied |
| 22:17.42 | Luke-Jr | what does Settings/Look and Feel come from? |
| 22:25.07 | florian_ | Luke-Jr: gpe-conf theme |
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| 22:40.35 | florian_ | bbl |
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| 23:07.44 | florian_ | re |
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| 23:59.37 | florian_ | ibot: botmail for pb_ Well... the SQL statements become a little bit more complex, but imho generating plain name lists should be faster now. |
