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| 05:43.39 | tommie | | sh: insmod: not found |
| 05:43.39 | tommie | | modprobe: failed to load module ip_tables |
| 05:43.39 | tommie | | iptables v1.2.11: can't initialize iptables table `filter': iptables who? (do you need to insmod?) |
| 05:43.42 | tommie | | Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded. |
| 05:43.44 | tommie | Network shield is broken? |
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| 07:06.16 | koen | good morning all |
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| 07:14.56 | rob_w-cgi | hi koen |
| 07:19.24 | koen | hey rob_w-cgi |
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| 07:24.44 | rob_w-cgi | do you know about cracking when playing mp3 on vlc ? |
| 07:25.02 | koen | on h3800? |
| 07:25.07 | rob_w-cgi | 3970 |
| 07:25.16 | koen | no idea |
| 07:25.28 | rob_w-cgi | actually it sounds like it stucks for a sec |
| 07:25.29 | koen | on h3800 it's kind of an hardware problem |
| 07:26.57 | rob_w-cgi | hmm ok thnx |
| 07:27.07 | rob_w-cgi | how far is xine yet ? |
| 07:27.18 | koen | that would be a question for Cwiiis |
| 07:27.18 | rob_w-cgi | there was some development lately , right ? |
| 07:27.25 | rob_w-cgi | ok |
| 07:28.42 | rob_w-cgi | koen could you paste me the changeset link ? |
| 07:29.13 | koen | oe-devel.bkbits.net:8080/openembedded/ChangeSet@-2d?nav=index.html |
| 07:29.15 | koen | that one? |
| 07:29.37 | rob_w-cgi | yep thnx |
| 07:29.47 | rob_w-cgi | i didnt find a link to it on the websites |
| 07:30.37 | p0m | Hmm, that reminds me. |
| 07:30.53 | p0m | koen: What are you going to do when Bitkeeper revokes the free client rights? |
| 07:33.29 | koen | cry |
| 07:33.53 | p0m | Any ideas on what you'll be moving to? |
| 07:33.59 | koen | not yet |
| 07:34.11 | koen | I'll be on a plane when that happens |
| 07:34.16 | koen | (july 1st) |
| 07:34.17 | pigeon | hahahaha |
| 07:34.49 | p0m | Heh. |
| 07:35.14 | koen | I'll be moving a few thousand miles closer to larry |
| 07:40.13 | rob_w-cgi | koen : moving away from nl ` |
| 07:40.18 | rob_w-cgi | ? |
| 07:40.40 | koen | rob_w-cgi: holiday |
| 07:46.53 | rob_w-cgi | ok cool |
| 08:01.32 | rob_w-cgi | brb , building in the 3rd scsi card ... |
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| 08:03.45 | koen | hey ade|desk, how was the exam? |
| 08:06.01 | ade|desk | hell |
| 08:06.10 | koen | that sucks |
| 08:06.17 | ade|desk | first one was ok , second was really not good |
| 08:06.32 | ade|desk | i hate systems engineering |
| 08:06.56 | ade|desk | just to define a system is beyond me understanding |
| 08:07.31 | koen | with bondgraphs and all? |
| 08:07.31 | ade|desk | s/me/my |
| 08:09.18 | ade|desk | its mainly waffle about process/info/operational/prodct focused engineers techinques |
| 08:09.49 | ade|desk | iterative requirement analysis |
| 08:10.16 | ade|desk | as well as drawing up SEMPs ... not fun |
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| 08:34.13 | reenoo | morning |
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| 08:45.29 | koen | 'morning reenoo |
| 08:45.47 | koen | hey mallum |
| 08:46.00 | koen | mallum: can MB use Xdamage to reduce redraws? |
| 08:47.35 | reenoo | hey koen |
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| 08:54.03 | mallum | koen: how do you mean ? |
| 08:54.20 | mallum | koen: actual app redraws ? |
| 08:54.22 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 08:54.42 | koen | hey florian_kc |
| 08:54.54 | koen | mallum: desktop redraw for example |
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| 08:58.31 | bedboi | hi there |
| 08:59.14 | koen | mallum: when I enter a different "folder" it redraws the whole desktop |
| 09:01.25 | mallum | koen: it has to redraw the entire desktop |
| 09:02.16 | koen | I see |
| 09:02.54 | mallum | koen: it could be smarter about it |
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| 09:45.57 | koen | ~whaleslap matlab |
| 09:45.59 | ibot | ACTION slaps matlab upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 09:46.08 | koen | ibot: thanks |
| 09:46.08 | ibot | pas de quoi, koen |
| 09:46.17 | florian_kc | :-) |
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| 10:32.56 | mallum | koen: hey |
| 10:33.39 | mallum | koen: I guess you can see the updates on mb-desktop on c7x0 ? |
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| 11:05.50 | tommie | Strange, I cannot enter "=" with the onscreen keyboar |
| 11:06.03 | XorA | anyone any ideas why matchbox-wm is hiding some dialogs somewhere I cannot see them |
| 11:07.16 | mallum_ | XorA: because it does not think they are suitable |
| 11:07.25 | mallum_ | XorA: run with --no-censorship |
| 11:07.43 | XorA | mallum_: suitable? like file requesters |
| 11:08.03 | mallum_ | XorA: it was an attempt at humour :/ |
| 11:08.13 | XorA | mallum_: :-D |
| 11:08.20 | mallum_ | XorA: what version are you running ? |
| 11:08.25 | tommie | Hm, I see the key event with xev, but there is no = appearing |
| 11:08.33 | XorA | mallum_: 0.9.4 |
| 11:08.46 | tommie | ah |
| 11:08.55 | tommie | It's working n the text editor |
| 11:09.11 | tommie | strange |
| 11:09.16 | tommie | now in the terminal as well |
| 11:12.06 | mallum_ | XorA: do you have composite ( visual effects ) turned on ? |
| 11:12.18 | mallum_ | XorA: could you give an example of an app that its happerning for |
| 11:12.34 | tommie | Anyone with an 5450 here? The battery display is somehow broken, is it? |
| 11:12.36 | XorA | mallum_: sylpheed, firefox |
| 11:13.40 | XorA | mallum_: Visual effects are disables |
| 11:15.09 | XorA | mallum_: the window titles show in Program Manager |
| 11:18.23 | Cwiiis | Compiling gpe-appmgr-2.8: "main.c:53:24: gpe/render.h: No such file or directory" |
| 11:18.37 | XorA | Cwiiis: its safe to delete that line |
| 11:25.34 | lardman | Or you can make an earlier version of libgpewidget, which will put that render.h file in staging (so koen told me) |
| 11:26.11 | lardman | then remake version 0.100 to make sure that the cairo stuff works |
| 11:35.32 | koen | re |
| 11:35.41 | koen | </lunch downtown> |
| 11:37.42 | Cwiiis | is patching render.h out the wrong thing to do, come to think of it? I don't want to break anything... |
| 11:37.56 | Cwiiis | (commiting patches I mean) |
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| 11:38.15 | koen | Cwiiis: no, it's good |
| 11:38.18 | Cwiiis | k |
| 11:38.28 | koen | It's already fixed in cvs the same way |
| 11:38.44 | koen | luc and florian_kc need to find some time to make some releases |
| 11:39.10 | koen | 'bitbake libgpewidget-0.97 ; bitbake gpe-image' fixes it too |
| 11:39.15 | florian_kc | tommie: it is a little bit... |
| 11:39.39 | florian_kc | koen: gpe-appmgt is pb_'s :-) |
| 11:39.52 | koen | and pb_ of cource :) |
| 11:39.53 | mallum_ | XorA|lunch: wierd |
| 11:40.01 | tommie | florian_kc: most of the time It's at 100% (sometimes it even says 'critical'), and if it's down, even a ms on AC pushes it to its full extent |
| 11:40.05 | tommie | strange |
| 11:40.08 | rob_w-cgi | Cwiiis : hi ,,how is xine doing , is it already able to play mp3 ? |
| 11:40.21 | mallum_ | XorA|lunch: you are opening say the file selector and its not appearing at all ?? |
| 11:40.35 | Cwiiis | rob_w-cgi: It has depedencies set up to play most mp3s/oggs/mpegs (1 and 4) and avis |
| 11:40.42 | Cwiiis | and display images |
| 11:40.49 | tommie | nice |
| 11:41.18 | Cwiiis | rob_w-cgi: It also has patches applied to provide faster functions for arm and reduce memory usage, slightly |
| 11:41.54 | koen | mallum_: what was that multimedia matchbox thing called again? |
| 11:42.09 | koen | I might slip it into a hx4700 rootfs |
| 11:42.13 | florian_kc | tommie: on some ipaqs the charging stuff seems to be really stupid... it tells us about "critical" all te time and resets to 100% as soon as chearging starts. |
| 11:42.23 | tommie | yes |
| 11:42.27 | tommie | That's my point |
| 11:42.32 | koen | florian_kc: or 255% |
| 11:42.35 | tommie | And it does not charge while suspended :-| |
| 11:43.13 | koen | tommie: the h5xxx was buggy powermanagement hardware |
| 11:43.20 | florian_kc | Someone needs to workaround this in iPaq kernel :-/ |
| 11:44.31 | tommie | koen: I read about that |
| 11:44.31 | Cwiiis | heh, sounds like collie :) |
| 11:44.31 | florian_kc | the h5xxx series _IS_ a bug :-( |
| 11:44.31 | koen | florian_kc: are you sure it's fixable in kernel? |
| 11:44.31 | koen | it could be the ds_2760 doing strange stuff |
| 11:44.31 | florian_kc | koen: no... i think it is better in ppc, so at least something should be possible. |
| 11:44.31 | florian_kc | ibot: h5xxx? |
| 11:44.45 | koen | 2.6 now provides userspace access to the ds2760's registers |
| 11:44.47 | florian_kc | ibot: h5000? |
| 11:44.50 | koen | it shouldn't be too hard to parse those |
| 11:45.03 | koen | ibot: cookie? |
| 11:45.34 | koen | Cwiiis: could write a small bit on gxine for the newsletter? |
| 11:46.28 | Cwiiis | koen: I'll try and get some stuff written today, between courseworks |
| 11:47.43 | koen | I was planning the same :) |
| 11:47.53 | rob_w-cgi | Cwiiis so will i need to build it from oe or do you have ipkg`s ready for me ? i ask since i hear crackes on my 3970 and vlc playing mp3 and wonder if xine does do better |
| 11:48.49 | Cwiiis | rob_w-cgi: xine does do better, at least on my collie (perfect playback of mp3s and oggs, even using esd), and I'm afraid I don't have packages for you - I'm not a familiar guy (unless you've got a soft-float image on your pda, in which case I'll have packages later) |
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| 11:49.34 | rob_w-cgi | Cwiiis : so i will need to build them , right ? are your latest patches applyed ? |
| 11:49.38 | mallum_ | damn adsl |
| 11:49.40 | mallum_ | koen: mb-xine or somesuch |
| 11:49.42 | mallum_ | koen: Im not sure if it still works :/ |
| 11:50.40 | Cwiiis | rob_w-cgi: Yes and yes |
| 11:50.44 | Cwiiis | hmm |
| 11:53.16 | koen | mallum_: http://projects.o-hand.com/matchbox/sources/mb-desktop-xine/0.4/ |
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| 11:54.13 | rob_w-cgi | re |
| 11:55.41 | Cwiiis | koen: Your photographs are amazing, btw :) |
| 11:55.55 | koen | thanks |
| 11:56.35 | rob_w-cgi | hmm , does someone has build the xine ipkg `s ? |
| 12:00.57 | koen | only libxine |
| 12:01.40 | rob_w-cgi | hmm so i would still miss the xine frontend |
| 12:01.50 | tommie | florian_kc: , "_is_ a bug" sounds harsh...What other surprises are wating for me? |
| 12:02.17 | koen | bluetooth |
| 12:02.39 | koen | random quirck, only solvable by removing the battery for a few hours |
| 12:03.28 | koen | florian_kc: try attaching a batterysleeve, that improves it a *lot* |
| 12:05.23 | florian_kc | koen: heh |
| 12:05.47 | florian_kc | tommie: oh... a completely flat battery causes nice effects ;-) |
| 12:06.05 | koen | that only happened to my twice |
| 12:06.11 | koen | *during FOSDEM* |
| 12:06.26 | mallum_ | koen: thats the one |
| 12:06.37 | mallum_ | koen: Im working on another media player thingy |
| 12:06.46 | mallum_ | koen: but it wont run on a handheld |
| 12:06.46 | koen | cool |
| 12:06.50 | koen | uncool |
| 12:06.53 | mallum_ | koen: ( OpenGL based ) |
| 12:06.57 | koen | cool |
| 12:07.18 | mallum_ | Im trying to keep the GL calls to approimate gl es spec |
| 12:07.23 | mallum_ | so you never know ..; |
| 12:07.52 | tommie | florian_kc: I guess I experienced that about an hour ago |
| 12:08.20 | tommie | In the middle of an ssh session, the system completely froze |
| 12:08.33 | tommie | Neither suspend nor reset worked :-< |
| 12:09.29 | tommie | I then attached it to AC and took out the batter |
| 12:09.40 | koen | ah |
| 12:09.48 | koen | that's wrong |
| 12:09.59 | koen | you'll need to clear the internal battery too |
| 12:22.59 | tommie | It's working again |
| 12:33.26 | XorA | mallum_: that is exactly it, in firefox, File->Open doesnt show a requester on screen but program manager shows a File Open window |
| 12:33.52 | XorA | mallum_: sylpheed the config requester opens on first load, but it isnt showing on screen but also shows in program manager |
| 12:33.52 | mallum_ | XorA: wah |
| 12:35.44 | mallum_ | XorA: wtf is up with that |
| 12:37.30 | XorA | mallum_: its a wierd one |
| 12:37.49 | XorA | mallum_: cant even alt->tab to them |
| 12:38.35 | mallum_ | XorA: is it just firefox and sylpheed ? |
| 12:39.27 | XorA | mallum_: those are the two I have found so far |
| 12:39.41 | mallum_ | XorA: it does not look like firefix is actually opening a dialog for file-open location |
| 12:40.11 | mallum_ | XorA: file - open is working for me |
| 12:40.23 | XorA | mallum_: what version you on? |
| 12:40.32 | mallum_ | XorA: opne location just seems to focus the url window |
| 12:40.57 | mallum_ | XorA: 1.0.2 |
| 12:41.33 | XorA | mallum_: it is also the "Security Alert" dialog in firefox doesnt appear |
| 12:41.37 | mallum_ | XorA: I think sylpheed may be some butchered gtk2 version ? i.e. not the official one ? |
| 12:41.57 | mallum_ | XorA: how do I get that up ? |
| 12:42.07 | XorA | mallum_: or Edit->Preferences |
| 12:42.56 | mallum_ | XorA: works for me |
| 12:43.04 | mallum_ | XorA: with 1.0.2 |
| 12:43.27 | mallum_ | XorA: do you know if OE is patching it ? |
| 12:43.58 | XorA | mallum_: OE has a few patches, not sure which, I am running 1.0.3 as from OE now |
| 12:44.16 | mallum_ | XorA: build it without the patches if pos |
| 12:45.18 | XorA | mallum_: the only patches seem to be build patches, not any code is patched |
| 12:45.53 | mallum_ | XorA: you have firefox on your desktop machine ? |
| 12:46.24 | mallum_ | XorA: do like xhost + on Z, the DISPLAY=ZUARUS_IP:0 firefox & on desktop |
| 12:46.53 | XorA | mallum_: Im at work on *doze :-( Ill try at home later |
| 12:47.14 | XorA | gimme a sec |
| 12:49.44 | tommie | Does anyone know what's wrong with the Network Shield applet? |
| 12:50.04 | tommie | seems to be broken |
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| 12:54.07 | koen | Cwiiis: does libxine compile for you? |
| 12:54.20 | XorA | mallum_: ok, I have run debian firefox-1.0.2 and it shows same problem |
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| 13:02.02 | mallum_ | XorA: crazy |
| 13:02.13 | mallum_ | XorA: what MB theme ? |
| 13:02.19 | mallum_ | XorA: and thats with pref win ? |
| 13:05.14 | koen | Cwiiis: libxine fails on demox_ogg for some reason |
| 13:05.25 | koen | Cwiiis: do you know how to get around that? |
| 13:06.10 | XorA | mallum_: yes, the prefs win |
| 13:06.53 | XorA | mallum_: theme is Default |
| 13:07.06 | koen | mallum_: do you know what up with the accented chars sometimes working and sometimes not? |
| 13:07.09 | koen | (with mb-keyb) |
| 13:09.05 | XorA | mallum_: have tested with MBOpus, Industrial and blondie and they all exhibit same behaviour |
| 13:10.09 | mallum_ | koen: Are you running latest svn ? |
| 13:10.48 | mallum_ | XorA: completely confused :/ |
| 13:11.08 | XorA | mallum_: shall I log a defect in your bugtracker? |
| 13:11.26 | mallum_ | XorA: one thing you could try if pos is build a mb wm with --enable-debug and note what mb prints to stderr when you open the prefs win |
| 13:11.36 | mallum_ | XorA: I may be able to figure it out from that |
| 13:11.48 | XorA | mallum_: can do, amd64 is sweet for quick rebuilds |
| 13:14.25 | koen | mallum_: not on the Z, will try later today |
| 13:17.48 | mallum_ | koen: I made a little commit late last night that should hopefully sort it |
| 13:22.49 | koen | mallum_: I have that on on my ipaq |
| 13:24.04 | mallum_ | koen: hmmm |
| 13:24.49 | mallum_ | koen: try it on Z, when its broke need to see the end of xmodmap -pke |
| 13:29.20 | koen | mallum_: http://pastebin.ca/10498 |
| 13:29.25 | koen | (on the ipaq) |
| 13:31.59 | mallum_ | koen: it only goes up to 135 ? |
| 13:32.13 | koen | yes |
| 13:32.31 | mallum_ | doh |
| 13:32.54 | koen | keycode 134 = XF86RockerEnter |
| 13:32.54 | koen | keycode 135 = |
| 13:32.54 | koen | koen@drone:~$ |
| 13:32.57 | koen | not over here |
| 13:33.23 | mallum_ | anyway you can see its setting up the keysyms for the extended chars ok |
| 13:33.34 | mallum_ | ediaeresis & onehalf |
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| 14:01.06 | XorA | mallum_: http://pastebin.ca/10500 |
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| 14:10.40 | mallum_ | XorA: try without a matchbox built without --enable-composite |
| 14:15.34 | XorA | mallum_: ok |
| 14:24.10 | florian_kc | ~lart dh_make for installing broken rules |
| 14:30.30 | XorA | mallum_: disabling composite makes no difference |
| 14:30.54 | mallum_ | XorA: arg, Im completely lost then :/ |
| 14:31.41 | mallum_ | XorA: its working for me in Xephyr on desktop |
| 14:31.57 | mallum_ | XorA: I wonder if it worth checking with no wm at all |
| 14:32.03 | mallum_ | XorA: or another WM on ipaq |
| 14:32.14 | mallum_ | XorA: ( do the DISPLAY trick again but with desktop wm ) |
| 14:32.26 | XorA | mallum_: Ill do that sometime, need to do my job for a few hours |
| 14:36.46 | mallum_ | XorA: okey dokes, no rush |
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| 14:54.30 | XorA | mallum_: works fine with openbox |
| 14:54.39 | XorA | mallum_: trying to get debian matchbox to work |
| 15:10.08 | XorA | mallum_: Its a new bug in 0.9.4, 0.9.3 works :-) |
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| 15:21.52 | mallum_ | XorA: aha |
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| 15:25.40 | mallum_ | XorA: am checking changelog for clues |
| 15:26.06 | mallum_ | XorA: your not running firefox fullscreen or something ? |
| 15:27.28 | XorA | mallum_: no |
| 15:29.04 | mallum_ | XorA: thanks for bearing with me on this |
| 15:29.21 | mallum_ | XorA: if I could reproduce I could no doubt fix v quickly |
| 15:30.23 | mallum_ | XorA: if at all possible could you do an svn build for 2005-02-16 |
| 15:30.31 | mallum_ | XorA: if that breaks too, I know what it is |
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| 15:35.42 | koen | re |
| 15:35.59 | Cwiiis[uni] | Hey all |
| 15:36.00 | XorA | mallum_: I could, but Im almost finished for the day, I have day off on monday though so chance are I shall look at it again then |
| 15:36.14 | XorA | mallum_: Im away for weekend otherwise Id do it tomorrow |
| 15:42.35 | mallum_ | XorA: of course it could be working for me as I've somehow fixed in svn :/ |
| 15:42.58 | XorA | mallum_: heh heh |
| 15:44.43 | florian_kc | hi Cwiiis[uni] |
| 15:44.50 | florian_kc | koen: wb |
| 15:52.24 | Cwiiis[uni] | koen: Could you link me to the page listing the things that need to be written about for the next newsletter please? |
| 15:52.38 | Cwiiis[uni] | (don't have my bookmarks handy here) |
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| 16:02.14 | reenoo | re |
| 16:14.08 | florian_kc | reenoo: hello! |
| 16:16.03 | reenoo | hey florian_kc |
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| 16:38.53 | koen | Cwiiis[uni]: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/pda/files/OOOOOOOO-newsletter-2005.4.txt |
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| 17:03.43 | tommie | Hm, anyone got an idea why GPE keeps on forgetting my nameserver? |
| 17:04.59 | tommie | ? |
| 17:05.20 | koen | "GPE" doesn't store ns info |
| 17:05.21 | tommie | Is there an easy way to fix it? |
| 17:05.39 | koen | ceck if resolv.conf is correct |
| 17:05.44 | tommie | It is |
| 17:05.53 | tommie | but then, after some time, it's empty again |
| 17:06.00 | tommie | I also moved the file out of the ramdisk |
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| 17:10.33 | __moray | tommie: maybe your DHCP client is replacing the file with new (blank?) settings from the DHCP server. |
| 17:10.55 | __moray | As koen says though, this isn't a GPE issue, speak to your distribution people about this. |
| 17:10.59 | tommie | __moray: There is no dhcp server here :-/ |
| 17:15.10 | mallum_ | koen: have you seen http://www.rpsys.net/ipaq/gpe/ ? |
| 17:15.57 | Cwiiis[uni] | ooh! |
| 17:16.57 | koen | not yet |
| 17:17.06 | koen | :) |
| 17:19.28 | koen | mallum_: is mbdesktop_module.h still being used? |
| 17:20.27 | mallum_ | koen: yeah I think so, whats up ? |
| 17:21.05 | koen | I suspect it doesn't end up in staging |
| 17:22.51 | florian_kc | mallum_: uh, which model is this? |
| 17:22.58 | koen | hx2750 |
| 17:23.06 | koen | wifi, bt, sd, cf |
| 17:23.08 | florian_kc | nice :-) |
| 17:23.19 | koen | h2210++ |
| 17:23.37 | florian_kc | heh |
| 17:25.33 | RP | SD and CF are working. BT is the same as hx4700 who say they have bits working |
| 17:25.49 | RP | So wifi if the only complete unknown |
| 17:26.00 | koen | no acx100? |
| 17:26.25 | RP | koen: It is acx100 |
| 17:26.37 | RP | noone knows how to drive it in CF form though |
| 17:27.58 | RP | well, I think its acx101... |
| 17:32.34 | mallum_ | RP: you forgot to mention you have it sleeping/resuming from haret boot :) |
| 17:33.08 | florian_kc | sounds nice... any idea if we maybe can use its bootloader for our purposes? :-) |
| 17:33.23 | florian_kc | mallum_: cool |
| 17:33.26 | RP | mallum_: Not quite with gpe yet but that should be easy now :) |
| 17:34.50 | mallum_ | florian_kc, koen : either of you know which one of these would be pulling in FUCKING CARIO ? |
| 17:35.14 | koen | one of which? |
| 17:35.41 | mallum_ | matchbox xtscal gtk+ minimo rxvt bluez-utils-dbus ttf-bitstream-vera |
| 17:35.53 | mallum_ | of course the build fails on cairo |
| 17:38.10 | florian_kc | hrm... |
| 17:38.19 | florian_kc | none of them imho... |
| 17:39.38 | florian_kc | that must be some really stupid dependency |
| 17:44.00 | mallum_ | any ideas on how to fix cairo ? |
| 17:44.29 | koen | cairo build normally on my box |
| 17:44.35 | koen | just tested it this morning |
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| 17:45.55 | lardman|busy | likewise I built cairo this morning without any troubles |
| 17:48.21 | mallum_ | koen: cairo-0.0cvs20050122-r2 ? |
| 17:48.30 | koen | 20050428 |
| 17:48.48 | mallum_ | hmm, maybe I need to nuke build/tmp-all |
| 17:49.07 | koen | yeah |
| 17:49.15 | koen | and check for which distro you are building |
| 18:00.29 | koen | mallum_: can you point me to some instructions to activate mb-desktop-xine? |
| 18:01.01 | mallum_ | koen: just committed a fix for e^ thing ( hopefully ) in libfakey |
| 18:01.06 | mallum_ | koen: is there not a README ? |
| 18:01.39 | koen | ehm |
| 18:01.51 | mallum_ | koen: its not gpe-desktop-xine |
| 18:02.10 | mallum_ | and goes to cook dinner |
| 18:02.19 | koen | % cat ~/.matchbox/mbdesktop_modules |
| 18:02.19 | koen | /usr/local/share/matchbox/desktop/modules/imgbrowser.so /home/mallum/Desktop/Media/pictures |
| 18:02.22 | koen | /usr/local/share/matchbox/desktop/modules/xinebrowser.so /home/mallum/.matchbox/mbxine.desktop |
| 18:02.25 | koen | mallum_: thanks |
| 18:02.30 | florian_kc | That's a good idea :-) |
| 18:02.38 | florian_kc | bbl |
| 18:02.47 | koen | hint: don't use too much cheese |
| 18:02.52 | koen | if *fills* |
| 18:02.57 | koen | s/if/it/ |
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| 18:11.00 | mallum_ | koen: did it work ? ( mb-xine ) ? |
| 18:11.29 | koen | mallum_: writing .desktop for it now |
| 18:11.36 | koen | Installing mb-desktop-xine (0.4-r0) to root... |
| 18:11.36 | koen | Downloading http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/feed//mb-desktop-xine_0.4-r0_arm.ipk |
| 18:11.42 | koen | while it's installing |
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| 18:30.08 | koen | and gxine too, while I'm at it |
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| 18:39.10 | Cwiiis[uni] | koen: http://www.soton.ac.uk/~cil103/stuff/gxineblurb |
| 18:39.54 | koen | thanks |
| 18:42.11 | Cwiiis[uni] | brb... |
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| 18:44.20 | Cwiiis[uni] | heh, no really decent IRC clients for the Mac... |
| 18:44.36 | koen | Cwiiis[uni]: irssi |
| 18:44.46 | Cwiiis[uni] | koen: No thanks :) |
| 18:45.03 | Cwiiis[uni] | Using the nightly build of Colloquy at the moment, it's adequate... |
| 18:45.08 | Cwiiis[uni] | Nice themeing |
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| 18:46.14 | florian | re |
| 18:46.15 | Cwiiis[uni] | I wonder how much Mac-like functionality you could get through hacking gtk/metacity... |
| 18:46.18 | Cwiiis[uni] | hey florian |
| 18:46.37 | koen | Cwiiis[uni]: Hubert is writing a gtk+ backend based on carbon |
| 18:47.06 | Cwiiis[uni] | koen: I'm more thinking of getting Mac-like functions to Linux via gtk :) |
| 18:47.08 | koen | mallum_: mbdesktop-xine: *WARNING* ao_port is NULL |
| 18:47.21 | florian | hmmm carbon? i've heared that before... |
| 18:47.30 | koen | Cwiiis[uni]: spiffifity and luminocity |
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| 18:49.35 | Cwiiis[uni] | koen: luminocity is neat, not heard of spifffifity... Will google - I mean more like a global menubar though, things like that |
| 18:50.28 | koen | when that happends, I might consider using linux again :) |
| 18:50.40 | koen | (that or ATI writing drivers that actually work) |
| 18:50.51 | Cwiiis[uni] | I imagine via a special gtk engine, a gnome-panel applet and metacity hacks, you could fairly easily implement global menu-bars... |
| 18:51.12 | Cwiiis[uni] | I might have to look into it, I quite like global menu-bars :) |
| 18:52.51 | reenoo | Cwiiis[uni]: there used to be patches for that type of stuff back in the gtk+ 2.2 days |
| 18:53.44 | Cwiiis[uni] | reenoo: Google wasn't very helpful when I looked, I'll have to search harder... |
| 18:59.18 | koen | Cwiiis[uni]: how can I force libxine to use mad? |
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| 19:00.18 | Cwiiis[uni] | koen: It should just use it...? |
| 19:03.52 | koen | hmmm |
| 19:03.57 | koen | mp3s are double speed |
| 19:04.14 | Cwiiis[uni] | hehe, nice |
| 19:04.26 | Cwiiis[uni] | Is this in gxine? |
| 19:04.48 | koen | gxine and mb-desktop xine |
| 19:04.55 | koen | mb-desktop-xine rules! |
| 19:05.02 | Cwiiis[uni] | And you say it's not using libmad? |
| 19:05.10 | Cwiiis[uni] | I'll have to try mb-desktop-xine :) |
| 19:05.12 | koen | I expected it didn't |
| 19:05.17 | Cwiiis[uni] | Any nice features? |
| 19:05.30 | koen | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.3929.png |
| 19:07.47 | Cwiiis[uni] | neat :) Can it do shuffle and things like that? |
| 19:07.57 | Cwiiis[uni] | heh, gpe-bootsplash still off-centre... :) |
| 19:07.59 | koen | haven't tried it |
| 19:11.03 | Cwiiis[uni] | ipkg is complaining of invalid magic every time I try to install a package :/ Ever heard of that? |
| 19:11.19 | koen | yes |
| 19:11.29 | koen | check the first line of the file |
| 19:11.50 | Cwiiis[uni] | of what file? |
| 19:11.59 | koen | the ipkg |
| 19:12.28 | Cwiiis[uni] | '!<arch>' |
| 19:12.57 | Cwiiis[uni] | I'm guessing <arch> is meant to be arm? :/ |
| 19:13.06 | koen | maybe goom is a bit much for the ipaq |
| 19:13.23 | Cwiiis[uni] | heh, goom is a bit much for my desktop :p |
| 19:13.51 | koen | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.4422.png |
| 19:17.12 | mallum_ | koen: have you had it make video thumbnails ? |
| 19:17.35 | koen | that gives weird shit |
| 19:17.44 | koen | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.4941.png |
| 19:17.52 | Cwiiis[uni] | Does anyone know how to enter a hash on a Mac keyboard? |
| 19:18.08 | koen | shift+3 |
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| 19:18.27 | Cwiiis[uni] | That's a pound sign here... |
| 19:18.40 | Cwiiis[uni] | ah, alt+3 :) |
| 19:18.41 | Cwiiis[uni] | thanks |
| 19:18.58 | Cwiiis[uni] | bugger, neither seem to work in a terminal over ssh... |
| 19:19.13 | Cwiiis[uni] | ah, ok, not in xterm, ok in iterm |
| 19:20.35 | koen | Cwiiis[uni]: how do I get it to build an esd plugin? |
| 19:20.48 | koen | the oss plugin is broken |
| 19:20.57 | Cwiiis[uni] | Build esd before building libxine |
| 19:21.07 | koen | que? |
| 19:21.13 | koen | shouldn't it be in depends? |
| 19:21.22 | Cwiiis[uni] | It is |
| 19:21.28 | Cwiiis[uni] | Last I checked anyway |
| 19:21.45 | Cwiiis[uni] | Maybe it's a modification I made in -rc5 and forgot to make it to 1.0 as well... |
| 19:21.55 | koen | yeah, if it was missing schurig would have remove X as well |
| 19:22.10 | Cwiiis[uni] | hehe |
| 19:22.46 | koen | "I BBMASK 75% and now stuff fails to build" |
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| 19:35.29 | florian | heh |
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| 19:39.17 | luc | good evening |
| 19:41.23 | florian | hey luc |
| 19:41.59 | luc | hi florian |
| 19:41.59 | koen | hey luc |
| 19:42.18 | luc | florian: should we set up a date for the autotools night? |
| 19:42.20 | luc | hey koen |
| 19:46.42 | florian | brb, telephone |
| 19:56.49 | Philippe | evening people |
| 19:59.15 | florian | re |
| 19:59.17 | florian | hi Philippe |
| 20:00.23 | florian | luc: yes we should, but i have no idea when... |
| 20:00.47 | mallum_ | koen: did you try new fakekey ? |
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| 20:00.52 | koen | mallum_: not yet |
| 20:02.51 | luc | florian: I cannot this weekend, what's about next wednesday evening, or the following weekend (7-8) ? mallum_, please check your calendar |
| 20:04.20 | lardman | mallum_: not sure if this is related to XorA's problems with matchbox_wm, but I am unable to login as root |
| 20:04.24 | florian | hmm friday 6.? |
| 20:04.38 | lardman | mallum_: I'm wondering if this is because on first login a dialog is displayed |
| 20:04.50 | luc | florian: ok for me |
| 20:04.59 | florian | maybe thats a little bit short and we should take a little bit more time for preparing. |
| 20:05.44 | luc | florian, yes, let's open a page in cvstrack to plan the thing |
| 20:05.53 | koen | heh |
| 20:06.10 | koen | luc: you're pretty into the 'trac' thing, aren't you? |
| 20:06.25 | florian | its fast :-) |
| 20:07.13 | luc | koen: :) wikis are very nice to draft things by several persons |
| 20:07.22 | koen | indeed |
| 20:07.27 | florian | luc: hmmm yeah... |
| 20:08.01 | koen | luc: I think a mockup of the "new" gpe site would say more than the wikipages |
| 20:08.08 | florian | It maybe doesn't look as good as the moin wiki, but it is ten times faster :-) |
| 20:08.25 | luc | http://handhelds.org:8080/gpe/wiki?p=GpeAutotoolization |
| 20:08.31 | florian | *g* |
| 20:09.09 | florian | "This page has not been created..." |
| 20:10.01 | luc | florian: check again ;) |
| 20:11.27 | luc | koen: do you really mean graphical stuff? I am taking care of my federation's web site nowadays, I am very tired of writing web sites! ;) |
| 20:12.17 | florian | hehe |
| 20:13.53 | Philippe | florian, is it ok to send you a patch for libgpewidget to support better the help-viewer? |
| 20:14.05 | florian | Philippe: yes sure! |
| 20:15.37 | Philippe | As my cvs account has not yet been confirmed....maybe I should send a mail to pb again. |
| 20:16.20 | florian | Philippe: yes, that's a good idea... the admin situation is still not that good. |
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| 20:24.59 | lardman | mallum_: I take it all back - I can't log in at all, even my user is now thrown out, however I do have a terminal window open in front of the login screen so I'll see if I can work out what's happeneing |
| 20:24.59 | mallum_ | luc: check calendar ? |
| 20:25.19 | mallum_ | lardman: the mb problem is related to just to firefox / sylpheed |
| 20:25.54 | luc | mallum_: make sure you join us for the autotoolization night, Friday 6. |
| 20:26.03 | mallum_ | luc: on a Friday night ? |
| 20:26.09 | mallum_ | luc: pub night ? |
| 20:26.17 | lardman | mallum_: Okay, something else for me then, perhaps a lack of /etc/passwd I noticed |
| 20:26.21 | lardman | night all |
| 20:27.04 | luc | mallum_: you can start in the morning |
| 20:27.58 | mallum_ | luc: I can help out |
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| 20:29.17 | Philippe | oops, killed my X :-) |
| 20:29.56 | luc | mallum_: thanks, this would be very appreciated |
| 20:33.57 | florian | that's much more complicated that developing a new architecture for gpe-conf |
| 20:40.07 | luc | florian: :) |
| 20:57.58 | florian | hmm... we need to order these sections. |
| 21:22.24 | luc | florian: which sections? |
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| 21:27.25 | lardman | Evening all, I've flashed an image I produced overnight (GPE with 2.6.11) and I've got problems |
| 21:27.46 | lardman | I can't log in for long with either my user - enpsgp, or with root |
| 21:28.00 | lardman | I can normally start something going, like a terminal |
| 21:28.26 | lardman | however then the gpe-login screen comes back to the foreground |
| 21:28.50 | lardman | if I'm lucky, I can login as root, start a terminal, and it will appear in front of the gpe-login screen |
| 21:28.58 | lardman | then I can still try to do stuff |
| 21:29.21 | lardman | Anyway, I've no idea what's wrong, nor how to fix it. Any suggestions? |
| 21:29.40 | florian | luc: ...of the text of the www home. |
| 21:30.49 | luc | florian: "What is GPE?" ? |
| 21:31.44 | florian | lardman: sounds like something at session startup is going wrong... maybe your windowmanager dies or something like this. |
| 21:31.49 | florian | luc: yep |
| 21:32.14 | florian | lardman: do you have access to a serial console? |
| 21:32.26 | lardman | florian: what should my wm be called? I'll see if I can see it with ps |
| 21:33.02 | luc | florian: right, and make a first paragraph understandable by Bob and Alice. Currently all are highly technical |
| 21:33.13 | florian | lardman: check the .xsession-errors file in the users homedir. |
| 21:33.19 | lardman | Another few random points: whenever I suspend, I get the screen recal screen when I turn back on |
| 21:33.42 | lardman | ~/.xinitrc is symlinked to /usr/bin/mbsession |
| 21:33.43 | ibot | ...but /.xinitrc is already something else... |
| 21:33.51 | lardman | oops |
| 21:34.06 | lardman | indeed it is ibot :) |
| 21:34.10 | florian | heh |
| 21:34.34 | Cwiiis | ~/.xinitrc |
| 21:34.35 | ibot | ~/.xinitrc is the traditional personal startup script used by xinit/startx, but in Debian ~/.xsession is preferred. xdm and startx use ~/.xsession; gdm uses ~/.gnomerc instead. |
| 21:35.13 | lardman | that's why I was wondering why it was linked to /usr/bin/mbsession... |
| 21:35.24 | florian | lardman: xinitrd is linked to mbsession? |
| 21:35.43 | lardman | florian: yes |
| 21:36.01 | lardman | well it was, I removed the link as I thought it was wrong |
| 21:36.33 | lardman | but I've now managed to get a root terminal infront of the gpe-login screen so I can get working |
| 21:37.33 | lardman | I have .xsession-errors, but have to type it across as I can't seem to use my term to set an ip address for usb0 |
| 21:38.14 | lardman | I get (amongst other things): |
| 21:38.36 | lardman | root window unavailable (maybe another wm is running?) |
| 21:38.48 | florian | hrm... |
| 21:39.05 | lardman | X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown) |
| 21:39.14 | lardman | init_keyboard |
| 21:39.54 | florian | right... thius sounds like matchbox isn't able to access the root window. |
| 21:40.13 | lardman | any ideas about why or what to do? |
| 21:40.22 | florian | that would cause this failure.... |
| 21:40.33 | lardman | I'm loath to reboot, as then it's a pain to get my term back |
| 21:40.37 | florian | koen: we had this before, right? |
| 21:40.47 | koen | yeah |
| 21:40.57 | koen | my untraceable problem with ipaq-sleep |
| 21:40.59 | lardman | :) |
| 21:41.07 | koen | which suddenly went away |
| 21:41.38 | lardman | ? kill ipaq_sleep see what happens? |
| 21:42.26 | lardman | thx florian :) |
| 21:42.42 | Luke-Jr | Is keylaunch supposed to work on Zaurus SL-C760? |
| 21:44.00 | florian | Luke-Jr: having a config file for it... yes |
| 21:44.17 | Luke-Jr | florian: I can't get it to work :| |
| 21:44.43 | Luke-Jr | or even run |
| 21:45.06 | Luke-Jr | http://pastebin.ca/10528 |
| 21:45.06 | florian | Luke-Jr: doesn't is start at all? |
| 21:45.16 | Luke-Jr | it starts if I delete keylaunchrc :) |
| 21:45.29 | koen | or if you remove the keys from the keymap |
| 21:46.19 | luc | good night all. |
| 21:46.34 | Luke-Jr | koen: the config thing doesn't have add/remove keys AFAICT |
| 21:47.59 | lardman | actually I see that keylaunch is running (on my otherwise shafter) C750 |
| 21:48.10 | lardman | s/shafter/shafted |
| 21:48.11 | Luke-Jr | interesting |
| 21:48.18 | Luke-Jr | seeing as there are no OZ packages for it =p |
| 21:48.32 | koen | yeah |
| 21:48.38 | lardman | I compiled my ROM today |
| 21:48.40 | koen | those OpieZaurus dudes need to grow up |
| 21:48.45 | Luke-Jr | tho it is preinstalled, IIRC |
| 21:48.47 | koen | IT'S NOT A ROM! |
| 21:48.51 | Luke-Jr | which was my problem |
| 21:48.53 | Luke-Jr | earlier |
| 21:49.04 | Luke-Jr | cuz the keylaunch that was preinstalled broke matchbox-wm |
| 21:49.06 | lardman | koen: why not/ |
| 21:49.07 | lardman | ? |
| 21:49.15 | Luke-Jr | it's not read only |
| 21:49.16 | koen | Read-Only Memory |
| 21:49.34 | lardman | ok |
| 21:49.37 | koen | that would mean you couldn't save any settings over a reboot |
| 21:49.38 | florian | :-) |
| 21:49.45 | Luke-Jr | lardman: It's ok I keep backups in a 'roms' dir too |
| 21:49.53 | lardman | ROM-image, or ROM-which is set rw-image |
| 21:50.01 | Luke-Jr | so anyway |
| 21:50.06 | Cwiiis | If I want to transport data between gnome applications, would I be better off using liborbit2 or dbus, does anyone know/advise? |
| 21:50.11 | Luke-Jr | Why does keylaunchrc have these non-ASCII chars? |
| 21:50.19 | Luke-Jr | Cwiiis: dbus |
| 21:50.21 | koen | Cwiiis: dbus, lightweight and very hip |
| 21:50.31 | Luke-Jr | everything except dbus is obsolete =p |
| 21:50.35 | Luke-Jr | I think |
| 21:50.39 | Cwiiis | Is it easy to transport arbitary data over dbus? |
| 21:50.44 | lardman | I have 7 X dbus-daemon-1 running |
| 21:50.48 | lardman | nice |
| 21:51.02 | Luke-Jr | key=???Combine XF86Calendar XF86Start:gpe-keylock |
| 21:51.05 | Luke-Jr | why the ??? |
| 21:51.09 | Cwiiis | And can you do CORBA-style things with dbus? |
| 21:51.30 | Luke-Jr | Cwiiis: you can do anything with dbus |
| 21:51.36 | florian | Luke-Jr: it tries to grab a key which is not available. you can check the key events your keys with xev |
| 21:51.54 | Luke-Jr | Cwiiis: even raytrace 10240x7680 images in a fraction of a second! |
| 21:52.06 | lardman | koen: any ideas on my lack of login-ablity? |
| 21:52.06 | Cwiiis | :p |
| 21:52.14 | Luke-Jr | Cwiiis: zombo.com |
| 21:52.17 | florian | Luke-Jr: the three modifiers |
| 21:52.23 | Luke-Jr | ah |
| 21:52.26 | Luke-Jr | so wildcard ?s |
| 21:52.58 | Luke-Jr | now... |
| 21:53.04 | Luke-Jr | to get xev to run on it |
| 21:53.57 | koen | you can use xev from your host too |
| 21:54.09 | Luke-Jr | if I can get X to let me connect ;) |
| 21:54.24 | florian | xhost + |
| 21:54.25 | koen | DISPLAY=:0 xhost + |
| 21:54.35 | Luke-Jr | ... quiet =p |
| 21:54.58 | Luke-Jr | tho I generally use ssh -X |
| 21:55.17 | lardman | killing ipaq-sleep doesn't seem to have done much for me |
| 21:55.37 | lardman | in fact it's been restarted |
| 21:55.43 | koen | lardman: the problem is in the startup phase |
| 21:56.03 | lardman | koen: is there any way I can debug |
| 21:56.07 | koen | something grabs the root window and tell matchbox to piss off |
| 21:56.30 | koen | try to find out where in /etc/X1//Xinit.d the rootwin get's grabbed |
| 21:56.36 | lardman | between gpe-login & matchbox starting up? |
| 21:57.50 | Luke-Jr | http://pastebin.ca/10531 |
| 21:57.55 | Luke-Jr | koen: that's easy |
| 21:58.03 | Luke-Jr | koen: keylaunch is grabbing the root window |
| 21:58.19 | Luke-Jr | before you start matchbox, killall keylaunch :) |
| 21:59.07 | lardman | :) |
| 21:59.15 | lardman | Seems to have gotten further |
| 21:59.28 | lardman | What does keylaunch do? |
| 21:59.31 | Luke-Jr | I was *hoping* it was fixed by now |
| 21:59.34 | Luke-Jr | dunno |
| 21:59.38 | Luke-Jr | but killing it works |
| 21:59.41 | lardman | :) |
| 21:59.51 | Luke-Jr | keylaunch's actual purpose is to run apps on app-keys |
| 22:00.00 | Luke-Jr | why it messes w/ root window is unknown to me |
| 22:00.33 | lardman | Okay, so assuming I don;t care that I can't launch the calendar from the hw keys |
| 22:00.38 | lardman | I can remove it in toto |
| 22:00.44 | Luke-Jr | I guess |
| 22:00.52 | lardman | koen? |
| 22:00.56 | Luke-Jr | what's toto? |
| 22:01.09 | lardman | in toto - completely |
| 22:01.24 | lardman | sorry, some random slang |
| 22:01.32 | Luke-Jr | o |
| 22:01.35 | Luke-Jr | sure |
| 22:01.36 | Luke-Jr | worked for me |
| 22:01.46 | Luke-Jr | use -force-depends tho |
| 22:01.52 | Luke-Jr | gpe-task-settings wants it |
| 22:03.04 | lardman | is it only started in /etc/X11/Xinit.d? |
| 22:03.12 | lardman | as then I'll just remove the entry |
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| 22:03.51 | Luke-Jr | why not remove the pkg? |
| 22:03.58 | lardman | er, ignore me, I read the wrong thing |
| 22:04.04 | lardman | indeed |
| 22:04.52 | p0m | koen: There's a bug in Symbian phones that can cause them to restart when scanning for bluetooth if someone has a specific name :) |
| 22:04.55 | lardman | right I've got rid, rebooting now, let's see what happens |
| 22:05.08 | lardman | p0m: that's cool - what's the name |
| 22:05.09 | lardman | ? |
| 22:05.44 | p0m | lardman: Not sure, the researchers posted some code to generate a name. |
| 22:05.44 | p0m | http://www.mobibug.com/adv/06035 |
| 22:06.35 | p0m | It seems to be a normal name with seven spaces and a period after it. |
| 22:06.37 | Luke-Jr | would it be easy to build a device that broadcasts the name? |
| 22:07.02 | p0m | I suppose so. |
| 22:07.11 | p0m | All you do is have to set your bt name on familiar to that. |
| 22:07.12 | Luke-Jr | fun |
| 22:07.19 | Luke-Jr | "Get off the phone" *turns device on* |
| 22:07.50 | lardman | is there any reason for gpe-bootsplash (is that the right name?)? |
| 22:07.52 | Luke-Jr | I don't have Familiar |
| 22:08.00 | Luke-Jr | lardman: it's pretty |
| 22:08.17 | lardman | Luke-Jr: hmm, depends on your def I suppose ;) |
| 22:08.17 | p0m | Luke-Jr: Problem with that theory is that they have to be actively scanning for other bluetooth devices. |
| 22:08.40 | Luke-Jr | who knows how keylauchrc works? |
| 22:09.22 | lardman | Luke-Jr: looks like I'm sorted. Thanks |
| 22:10.39 | lardman | p0m: so it's any name followed by "<tab>." interesting |
| 22:10.52 | p0m | lardman: Seem sso. |
| 22:11.20 | lardman | :) sounds like fun tomorrow - I know a fair few people with Nokia/Symbian phones |
| 22:12.01 | koen | 'night all |
| 22:12.07 | lardman | night koen |
| 22:12.08 | reenoo | 'night koen |
| 22:15.36 | florian | Symbian is good... at least it seems to produce vcard gpe can read :-) |
| 22:16.02 | Luke-Jr | http://pastebin.ca/10534 |
| 22:16.09 | Luke-Jr | xev of C760 appkeys |
| 22:19.50 | florian | Luke-Jr: that's nice... now i need some time |
| 22:20.15 | florian | Luke-Jr: does the suspend button work? |
| 22:20.41 | Luke-Jr | florian: of course... |
| 22:20.50 | Luke-Jr | I didn't even xev that one |
| 22:21.04 | Luke-Jr | florian: tell me what to do w/ it and I'll try ;) |
| 22:21.49 | lardman | time for bed, night all and thanks for your help |
| 22:24.04 | florian | Luke-Jr: okay... these symbols like "Control_L" are what you need for the keylaunchrc. |
| 22:24.28 | Luke-Jr | florian: won't left Control also be Control_L?? |
| 22:25.18 | florian | Luke-Jr: i don't know offhand, i'd try to use the symbol like it is shown by xst first... |
| 22:25.46 | Luke-Jr | xst? |
| 22:25.59 | florian | Luke-Jr: i can't try this that easily, i don't have a C7xx to try :-/ |
| 22:26.06 | florian | eh xev |
| 22:26.19 | Luke-Jr | florian: would remote access help? |
| 22:27.04 | Luke-Jr | hmm |
| 22:27.06 | Luke-Jr | interestingly |
| 22:27.07 | florian | Luke-Jr: not really... |
| 22:27.10 | Luke-Jr | those keys act like Ctrl/Alt |
| 22:28.15 | florian | Luke-Jr: there are several ways to achive this... |
| 22:28.51 | florian | key=???Pressed Control_L:-:gpe-calendar |
| 22:29.14 | florian | that might be worth a try for a first test keylaunchrc |
| 22:31.10 | Luke-Jr | florian: sheperd.xmodmap has the special keys commented... |
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| 23:21.51 | Philippe | night all |
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