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| 00:23.49 | Cwiiis | pb__: I get unresolved X symbols building xst, koen mentioned it might be something to do with your new xlibs class? |
| 00:26.31 | Cwiiis | pb__: I've uploaded the log at http://chrislord.net/log.do_compile.4500 if you want to check it out - g'night |
| 00:27.38 | Cwiiis | :p |
| 00:28.51 | Cwiiis | ibot: botmail for pb_ I get unresolved symbols building xst (http://chrislord.net/log.do_compile.4500) - koen mentioned it might be something to do with your new xlibs class, thought you might want to know - cheers |
| 00:36.35 | reenoo | beewoolie-away: I guess I'm spoiled by using OE then. also, I was thinking from a runtime perspective.. last time I checked gpe-calendar was usable even without matchbox running. |
| 00:42.11 | reenoo | anyways. I'm off to bed. |
| 00:42.13 | reenoo | 'night all |
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| 07:19.39 | koen | good morning all |
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| 08:42.44 | florian | hi all |
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| 09:08.51 | florian | hi pb_, hi Cwiiis |
| 09:08.58 | Cwiiis | Hey florian |
| 09:11.11 | pb_ | florian: hello! |
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| 11:08.34 | rob_wpda | hi |
| 11:09.21 | rob_wpda | how is it going |
| 11:10.42 | florian | hi rob_w |
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| 11:11.22 | reenoo | morning |
| 11:11.34 | rob_wpda | noon |
| 11:12.19 | reenoo | it all depends on when you get up :P |
| 11:12.26 | reenoo | hey rob_wpda |
| 11:12.46 | rob_wpda | right |
| 11:13.16 | rob_wpda | the bt applet is crazy |
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| 11:13.55 | rob_wpda | it refuses its duty more often now |
| 11:14.15 | rob_wpda | ups now it works |
| 11:15.05 | rob_wpda | do we have a AI in those applets :-) |
| 11:19.23 | florian | hi reenoo |
| 11:19.48 | florian | rob_wpda: sure... pb_ wrote it ;-) |
| 11:22.08 | reenoo | moin florian |
| 11:25.52 | rob_wpda | florian: oh i forgot |
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| 11:36.11 | florian | hi bedboi |
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| 11:50.02 | reenoo | hey koen |
| 11:50.08 | reenoo | bata444? |
| 11:50.29 | koen|bata444 | reenoo: "batavieren" race |
| 11:50.38 | koen|bata444 | relay race from nijmegen to enschede |
| 11:50.47 | koen|bata444 | we're preparing for the party |
| 11:51.01 | koen|bata444 | 6000 people want music, food and beer :) |
| 11:51.08 | reenoo | ah, ok |
| 11:51.32 | koen|bata444 | http://www.batavierenrace.nl/deutsch/ |
| 11:52.57 | reenoo | nice |
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| 11:53.18 | koen|bata444 | bbl |
| 11:53.24 | reenoo | enjoy! |
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| 12:07.21 | bedboi | in .bb rxvt source uri returns 404 |
| 12:08.03 | bedboi | maybe i got to bk pull |
| 12:40.20 | reenoo | pb_: is gpe-bluetooth limited to one connection at a time or something? I have to close the PAN connection to my desktop (and restart gpe-bluetooth) before I can send files to the ipaq via obex.. |
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| 12:41.17 | pb_ | It shouldn't be. That sounds like a bug. |
| 12:44.49 | reenoo | hmm.. could it be because the pins/keys for the two connections differ? (ipaq<->desktop, ipaq<->laptop) |
| 12:45.25 | pb_ | oh, sorry, I hadn't realised that you were talking about two different machines |
| 12:45.59 | reenoo | yeah, should have mentioned that. sorry |
| 12:46.10 | pb_ | having to close the PAN connection might be expected, though it should not be necessary to restart gpe-bluetooth. |
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| 12:50.02 | reenoo | ok. I'll investigate further when I get to it. it's a very convenient way to transfer files (using gnome-bluetooth on the laptop) |
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| 13:23.25 | pb_ | okay, cool |
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| 16:01.18 | florian | re |
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| 16:21.28 | jsmanrique | hi! |
| 16:22.15 | oramirez | jsmanrique, hi.. |
| 16:24.05 | jsmanrique | oramirez: that nick sounds 'muy espaņol' (spanish?) |
| 16:25.57 | oramirez | I am from Monterrey, Mexico. |
| 16:25.57 | oramirez | jsmanrique, where are you from? |
| 16:26.08 | jsmanrique | oramirez: Spain |
| 16:26.30 | jsmanrique | nice to see more hispanic people over here! |
| 16:26.56 | oramirez | hehe... :) |
| 16:27.37 | jsmanrique | I have seen that Ariel Rios will give a talk about GPE in GUADEC-ES |
| 16:27.44 | jsmanrique | I have emailed him about it |
| 16:32.43 | oramirez | jsmanrique, when.. |
| 16:33.01 | oramirez | jsmanrique, can we talk spanish..? |
| 16:33.17 | oramirez | jsmanrique, me intersa mucho.. |
| 16:33.26 | oramirez | jsmanrique, a lo mejor me doy una vuelta a espa?a.. |
| 16:33.44 | oramirez | jsmanrique, la mayoria de los que desarrollan son de alemania.. |
| 16:34.05 | oramirez | jsmanrique, es raro ver alguien de espa?a.. de hecho me interesa portar el site de opie a espa?ol.. |
| 16:34.16 | oramirez | jsmanrique, nos podr?amos poner de acuerdo y poder mejor tambien el site. |
| 16:35.54 | oramirez | jsmanrique, el site de gpe tambien ser?a bueno portarlo... |
| 16:36.06 | oramirez | jsmanrique, de hecho le falta estetica tambien al site.. |
| 16:38.12 | jsmanrique | oramirez: jajaja |
| 16:54.19 | oramirez | koen|bata444, the website of opie & gpe should be translated to spanish... |
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| 17:05.52 | jsmanrique | and gpe should be speed up :-) |
| 17:05.58 | jsmanrique | speeded up |
| 17:12.58 | _law_ | ist there an gpe-plucker fix? |
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| 17:57.18 | florian | _law_: Not yet, but a simple hack to make it compile would be to remove the header that causes that failure. it isn't used at all. |
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| 18:06.34 | reenoo | hmm |
| 18:07.13 | reenoo | not sure if I want to like minimo or not (running it for the first time in ages now) |
| 18:20.09 | reenoo | oh well |
| 18:20.43 | reenoo | much of the gui is non-functional. the rest needs some major polishing (IMO anyway). |
| 18:21.03 | reenoo | and google.com/palm doesn't work at all |
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| 19:10.37 | rob_wpda | how can i again decrease the size of the dillo gui ? |
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| 19:29.58 | _law_ | florian: show i post my remove-render.patches somewhere? |
| 19:30.07 | _law_ | s/show/should |
| 20:16.07 | _law_ | is there an working function for gpe_render_icon? |
| 20:16.18 | _law_ | wont work without render.h :-( |
| 20:24.18 | florian | _law_: oh dear... it really uses gpe-render icon? that must be the last application doing this. |
| 20:24.40 | _law_ | florian: how can i change this? |
| 20:24.50 | _law_ | is there eh new function? |
| 20:24.59 | _law_ | s/eh/a |
| 20:25.01 | florian | _law_: Use gpe_find_icon(<name>) instead... |
| 20:25.46 | _law_ | is there an api doc anywhere? |
| 20:26.48 | _law_ | gpe_find_icon is used before ? |
| 20:27.00 | _law_ | p = gpe_find_icon ("stop"); |
| 20:27.00 | _law_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:27.17 | florian | _law_: yep, http://www.kernelconcepts.de/~fuchs/gpe/doc/libgpewidget/index.html |
| 20:28.00 | florian | _law_: uh... who wrote that code? |
| 20:28.00 | _law_ | florian: i dont know |
| 20:30.42 | florian | _law_: in which file is this? |
| 20:31.07 | _law_ | interface.c |
| 20:32.52 | florian | _law_: of which part of gpe? |
| 20:33.10 | _law_ | gpe-tetris |
| 20:33.23 | florian | ah |
| 20:35.11 | florian | we have a new version of it, but it is not in oe because of some build problems. |
| 20:37.05 | florian | let me try to fix this... |
| 20:40.39 | _law_ | florian: oh yes :-) |
| 20:41.51 | _law_ | florian: i have gpe_plucker and gpe_watch remove-render patches, if you need .... |
| 20:44.18 | florian | _law_: that one for gpe-plucker would be useful, thats the only one i can't easily repackage. we could apply this patch in oe. |
| 20:44.35 | _law_ | mail ? |
| 20:45.18 | _law_ | or should i upload it to my homepage? |
| 20:46.01 | florian | _law_: just mail me to florian@handhelds.org |
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| 20:48.22 | _law_ | florian: mail is send |
| 20:49.50 | florian | _law_: many thanks |
| 20:49.57 | _law_ | florian: np |
| 20:56.21 | florian | hrm.... diet-x11 fails to compile :-/ |
| 20:57.10 | _law_ | florian: pastbin error |
| 20:58.27 | _law_ | diet-x11-6.2.1cvs20050423-r4 works |
| 20:59.12 | florian | _law_: ahokay... then i'll try this. |
| 21:02.17 | florian | hrm... i must have blown up my build... gpe-tetris doesn't find libX11 :-/ |
| 21:03.28 | florian | _law_: It will takje some time for me to rebuild, but you maybe want to try gpe-tetris 0.6-4. you need to remove the patch from the bb. |
| 21:05.02 | _law_ | ok i´ll try it |
| 21:05.16 | florian | brb |
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| 21:06.36 | marcio | hi everybody |
| 21:07.35 | marcio | i have some problems networking with the latest familiar (0.8.2)... |
| 21:08.49 | marcio | following the ppp-howto doc doesn't help much... |
| 21:24.11 | _law_ | florian: i also have an X11 error with 0.6-4 :-( |
| 21:24.14 | _law_ | /home/law/work/programming/zaurus/oe/tmp/staging/arm-linux/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so: undefined reference to `XFreePixmap' |
| 21:27.35 | florian | marcio: hi, sounds nasty... :-/ |
| 21:28.19 | florian | _law_: yes.. here it looks similar... i'll check if there is some typo in that makefile or similar. |
| 21:28.42 | florian | koen|bata444: do we have gkdial in 0.8.2? |
| 21:29.06 | _law_ | florian: there is an makefile patch in 0.6-2 |
| 21:31.55 | florian | _law_: right... -4 was supposed to fix this. that's the theory :-/ |
| 21:32.37 | cw2 | does anyone know, does the h3900 and h5000's have the same connector on the bottom? |
| 21:32.44 | cw2 | for charge/sync |
| 21:34.19 | marcio | i get "bad configure ack" and then a timeout even though I do a modprobe ppp_async on the ipaq and a "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" on the desktop. Any clues? Any logs you would like to see? |
| 21:35.18 | florian | cw2: yes... should be mostly the same, i use the same cables for h3800 and h5000 series. |
| 21:35.34 | cw2 | and the 3100 and 3600 are the same? |
| 21:35.50 | cw2 | but are differnt from the 5xxx right? |
| 21:36.06 | florian | cw2: i think so.. but these are definitely different from h3800 to h5000... |
| 21:36.10 | florian | heh# |
| 21:36.12 | florian | right |
| 21:36.43 | florian | marcio: why do you use ppp? |
| 21:37.18 | cw2 | k, i for a 3600 usb cradle in a bundle with a couple sleeves, I know it won't fit my h5555 but wasn't sure what it does fit |
| 21:37.32 | cw2 | s/for/got/ |
| 21:38.02 | cw2 | doing that a lot latetly, left hand getting one key off |
| 21:38.59 | marcio | because I have a 3970 with serial and usb connections. With 0.8.0 I could use ppp thru serial but I never got it to work. I could give it a try and then come back if it doesn't work, what do you think? |
| 21:39.18 | marcio | I mean I never got usb to work... |
| 21:39.44 | cw2 | usb needs the usbnet stuff setup on the pc |
| 21:39.57 | cw2 | seems to work out of the box on the handheld |
| 21:40.37 | florian | marcio: usbnet is not perfect but should be easier to set up... and it is much faster. |
| 21:41.00 | cw2 | and you won't have to "dial" it |
| 21:48.22 | florian | _law_: Looks like fixing gpe-tetris needs to wait a while... i can't reproduce this issue ouside of oe. |
| 21:49.22 | _law_ | _law_: is it possible to remove gpe-tetris from the image? |
| 21:50.44 | florian | _law_: :-) |
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| 21:50.59 | bedboi | hi there |
| 21:51.11 | florian | _law_: sure... edit meta-gpe.bb and remove it from gpe-task-games |
| 21:51.16 | florian | bedboi: hi |
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| 21:52.27 | bedboi | hey florian |
| 21:53.44 | pb_ | morning all |
| 21:54.13 | bedboi | pb_: in what timezone are you in? :) |
| 21:54.32 | bedboi | s/bedboi is// |
| 21:54.42 | pb_ | bedboi: UTC+10, I think |
| 21:54.48 | bedboi | cool |
| 21:54.54 | pb_ | it's 0755 here, anyway |
| 21:54.55 | bedboi | where are you? |
| 21:55.20 | pb_ | Canberra |
| 21:55.24 | bedboi | oh |
| 21:56.17 | pb_ | though today I will set out to go back to England. |
| 21:56.34 | bedboi | 1 day of flight |
| 21:57.00 | pb_ | yah |
| 21:58.05 | bedboi | eventually i should be in sidney for 1 month |
| 21:58.22 | bedboi | i think in september |
| 21:59.19 | florian | hey pb_ |
| 22:07.16 | pb_ | bedboi: ah, cool. I was in Sydney last week. It's much more interesting than Canberra. |
| 22:07.21 | pb_ | hi florian |
| 22:07.51 | _law_ | florian: i ll try to build an gpe-image without gpe-tetris and i will tell you which apps has render.h errors |
| 22:08.14 | florian | _law_: okay, great |
| 22:08.30 | florian | pb_: you see... we are still fighting render.h ;-) |
| 22:10.08 | pb_ | heh, yeah, it seems |
| 22:10.33 | pb_ | maybe it would be best to add a dummy render.h that just does "#warning Never include this file!" or something. |
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| 22:11.53 | florian | yeah... but there are not that many left :-) i think gpe-watch and gpe-plucker are the last. |
| 22:12.03 | pb_ | right, cool |
| 22:12.14 | pb_ | let's hope you are correct :-) |
| 22:16.14 | florian | ~lart gstreamer |
| 22:18.16 | _law_ | florian: gpe-appmgr ;-) |
| 22:20.13 | florian | hah! |
| 22:20.22 | florian | pb_: that's your fight ;-) |
| 22:20.28 | marcio | OK Florian, I'll try usbnet and come back if it doesn't work. My final aim is to be able to synchronize with evolution thru multisync... |
| 22:20.46 | marcio | thanks Florian |
| 22:22.23 | florian | marcio: okay cool... tell me if you run into trouble somewhere. |
| 22:27.34 | _law_ | florian: http://pastebin.com/275044 :-( |
| 22:28.53 | florian | oh |
| 22:29.07 | florian | what provides libgcc? |
| 22:29.34 | _law_ | ? |
| 22:30.37 | florian | _law_: for some reason your libgcc package seems to be missing or too old. |
| 22:35.03 | _law_ | florian: any ideas whar i can do? |
| 22:36.05 | _law_ | perhabs gcc 3.4.3+csl-arm-20050416 doesnt work |
| 22:40.52 | florian | _law_: if you changed your CVSDATE (or don't have a fixed one... you really should have one!) it might be the case that you need to rebuild it to get a newer version. |
| 22:50.43 | pb_ | libgcc is part of gcc-cross, not gcc |
| 22:51.09 | pb_ | fwiw, gcc 3.4.3+csl-arm-20050416 has the CVSDATE fixed in the .bb file; it isn't floating |
| 22:53.01 | koen | re |
| 22:54.10 | pb_ | right, time to ship out |
| 22:54.30 | pb_ | back in 30 hours :-} |
| 22:54.38 | koen | have a safe trip, pb_ |
| 22:54.40 | florian | pb_: oh... ok |
| 22:54.55 | florian | pb_: oh dear... enjoy :-) |
| 22:55.20 | pb_ | florian: heh. unlikely, but I'll do my best |
| 22:56.58 | florian | there are no laptop batteries lasting for 30 hours, eh? ;-) |
| 22:57.05 | florian | koen: wb |
| 22:57.42 | koen | 6 hours of sleep to go and then back to the party |
| 22:58.33 | florian | uh |
| 22:58.53 | florian | but sleep is a good idea... i almost forgot what this is. |
| 22:59.50 | florian | good night all |
| 23:00.19 | koen | 'night florian |
| 23:01.00 | florian | koen: that sounds like fun... |
| 23:01.09 | koen | it is |
| 23:01.16 | koen | I'm the boss man :) |
| 23:03.45 | koen | heh |
| 23:03.50 | florian | guys... refresh your -4 :-) |
| 23:59.04 | cw2 | /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.3-20050110/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: nsqlc.o: relocation R_X86_64_32 against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object;recompile with -fPIC |
| 23:59.11 | cw2 | what can I do to fix this? |
| 23:59.25 | cw2 | note: I have no idea what it means :/ |
| 23:59.43 | cw2 | thisis for libnsqlc from ftp.handhelds.org/projects/gpe/source/ |