| 00:11.10 | Cwiiis | wow, the gxine code is all over the bloody place... |
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| 01:36.02 | darmou | Hi all |
| 01:36.25 | darmou | Is anyone porting qpdf2 to gpe? |
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| 02:46.18 | Cwiiis | darmou: Why would someone do that...? |
| 02:46.34 | darmou | Well is there a pdf viewer for gpe? |
| 02:46.58 | Cwiiis | There are gtk pdf viewers, shouldn't be a big deal to compile one |
| 02:47.46 | Cwiiis | gpdf is in OE, but requires gnome libs - I imagine it has gtk configure options, or if not, that there's a decent gtk2-based pdf viewer about |
| 02:51.28 | darmou | cool cw111s |
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| 06:55.03 | pigeon | pb_: ahha! |
| 06:55.15 | pb_ | pigeon: yo :-) |
| 06:55.21 | pigeon | pb_: i see your shadow in sydney. |
| 06:56.03 | pb_ | heh, indeed, I arrived a few hours ago |
| 06:56.18 | pigeon | ah... that's cool... at hotel now? |
| 06:56.24 | pb_ | yup |
| 06:57.43 | pb_ | just checking my email, getting used to being upside down, all that kind of stuff. |
| 06:58.36 | pigeon | heh |
| 07:00.07 | pb_ | I see the weather here is much the same as in the UK at the moment. |
| 07:00.26 | pigeon | did you get the rain? |
| 07:01.02 | pb_ | yeah |
| 07:01.59 | pigeon | it wasn't so bad... yesterday was kinda hot and sweaty. |
| 07:02.02 | p0m | I wish it would rain up here. |
| 07:54.40 | koen | good morning all |
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| 08:09.24 | koen | good evening pb_ |
| 08:09.34 | pb_ | hi koen |
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| 08:17.45 | reenoo | morning |
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| 08:18.34 | pb_ | florian_kc: good morning |
| 08:18.34 | koen | hey reenoo & florian_kc |
| 08:19.14 | florian_kc | hi all! |
| 08:19.28 | reenoo | moin florian_kc |
| 08:19.31 | reenoo | hi koen |
| 08:21.39 | florian_kc | pb_: I updated the autotoolized libgpewidget package yesterday... i adapted the libtool fix we use in OE, but i'm not sure if it will apply in any case. |
| 08:22.14 | pb_ | florian_kc: hm, what was this libtool fix? |
| 08:22.45 | pb_ | I wouldn't expect that libgpewidget should need to do anything special with libtool. |
| 08:23.20 | florian_kc | pb_: There are three at all, i think the most important one is not to pull pathes from broken .la files. |
| 08:23.48 | florian_kc | pb_: okay... deleting all .la from the sdk helps too ;-) |
| 08:26.17 | pb_ | heh |
| 08:26.27 | pb_ | yeah, I think we should certainly not be shipping broken .la files in the sdk. |
| 08:26.40 | pb_ | if we can't ship correct ones, then shipping none at all is the next best thing. |
| 08:26.48 | florian_kc | do we need to ship them all? |
| 08:27.02 | pb_ | no, not really. |
| 08:27.04 | florian_kc | sounds like "no" :-) |
| 08:28.10 | pb_ | :-} |
| 08:28.40 | pb_ | florian_kc: did you resolve the problem with po/ChangeLog? |
| 08:28.42 | florian_kc | Is there any useful tool to diff/merge directories? |
| 08:29.51 | koen | diff -r? |
| 08:29.54 | florian_kc | pb_: not really, i finally created that file... |
| 08:30.07 | pb_ | florian_kc: hrm, that's not really a good solution |
| 08:31.32 | florian_kc | koen: hmm for diffing that's okay, but not if you need to decide what does in and what not... what i intend to do is to merge my homedirs on several machines. |
| 08:32.04 | florian_kc | pb_: indeed... |
| 08:32.45 | koen | you could rsync it into on big dir, delete cruft and rsync --delete it to all other machines |
| 08:33.48 | pb_ | florian_kc: if you manually edit DISTFILES in po/Makefile.in.in to remove the offending changelog, does that work? |
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| 08:33.59 | bedboi | hi all |
| 08:34.11 | pb_ | It looks like intltoolize will not blow away changes to that file, so I think it should be safe to edit. |
| 08:34.29 | pb_ | hi bedboi |
| 08:34.42 | florian_kc | pb_: That should work... let me try |
| 08:34.46 | florian_kc | bedboi: hi |
| 08:36.13 | pb_ | okay, cool |
| 08:36.31 | florian_kc | but first i need to fix some filesystem damage... |
| 08:36.43 | pb_ | doh, sounds bad |
| 08:37.10 | pb_ | bbl |
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| 09:00.43 | shiyo | hi... i m wondering whether i have to do the whole flashing procedure to move from opie to gpe or if there's some other way using ipkg or manually copying and modifying. Anyone can help? |
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| 09:16.29 | koen | hey mallum |
| 09:17.46 | mallum | hey hey mr koen |
| 09:18.10 | florian_kc | hi mallum |
| 09:19.13 | mallum | hey florian_kc |
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| 09:43.57 | schurig | Hi ! |
| 09:43.59 | schurig | I need some help |
| 09:44.14 | schurig | I just install gpe, freshly compiled from OE |
| 09:44.24 | schurig | when I run gpm-dm, I get the screen and have to create a new user. |
| 09:44.37 | schurig | Unfortunately, the Touchscreen doesn't work. But it works in ts_calibrate. |
| 09:44.49 | schurig | Where do I tell xserver-kdrive to use the libts for Touchscreen? |
| 09:45.34 | koen | schurig: what version of kdrive? |
| 09:45.46 | schurig | xserver-kdrive-fbdev_20050207 |
| 09:45.56 | koen | that should work |
| 09:46.03 | koen | try stracing it |
| 09:46.12 | schurig | ldd /usr/bin/Xfbdev doesn't show libts-0.0 |
| 09:46.27 | schurig | oh, sorry, it does |
| 09:47.42 | florian_kc | hi schurig |
| 09:47.52 | schurig | florian_kc: hi! |
| 09:48.16 | schurig | A customer of us asked if he could get GPE on MNCI, so I'm delving into this :-) |
| 09:48.24 | florian_kc | hmm nasty... |
| 09:49.23 | florian_kc | schurig: okay... is your /etc/ts.conf ok? |
| 09:49.51 | schurig | hmm, when I start /usr/bin/Xfbdev manually I get the error "TslibInit() failed to open tslib" |
| 09:50.22 | schurig | florian_kc: no clue, my Qt/E doesn't use tslib, so I was never in need of any |
| 09:52.02 | florian_kc | schurig: ah okay.. right, look at this file - it is commented. |
| 09:52.17 | koen | try installing tslib-tests and run ts_printraw |
| 09:53.07 | schurig | my touchscreen is using the input driver subsystem with /dev/input/events1, is there some driver for this in libts? |
| 09:53.39 | schurig | # ts_print_raw |
| 09:53.39 | schurig | 1113213383.367333: 378 0 0 |
| 09:53.40 | schurig | 1113213383.367343: 378 507 0 |
| 09:53.40 | schurig | 1113213383.367345: 378 507 610 |
| 09:53.56 | koen | that looks ok |
| 09:54.36 | schurig | koen: but it diesn't help. strace -efile ts_print_raw reveals that it doesn't open /dev/ts.conf, the path to is hardcoded |
| 09:55.38 | koen | and ts_print? |
| 09:55.51 | koen | that should open ts.conf to load all the filters |
| 09:56.30 | schurig | koen: the tslib-tools programs all contain hardwired devices in them, see for example oe/packages/tslib/tslib/event1.patch |
| 09:57.03 | schurig | it's only the libts itself that honors this file |
| 09:57.30 | koen | on h3900 we don't even have a /etc/ts.conf |
| 09:57.56 | koen | we set all env vars and use a config in /usr/share |
| 09:58.06 | schurig | okay, with "export TSLIB_TSDEVICE=/dev/input/event1" my /usr/bin/Xfbdev works |
| 09:58.23 | schurig | it would just be nice to have this in the config file, not in the environment. /me reads the source of tslib |
| 09:59.53 | schurig | or I put the rigth thing into /etc/profile.d/tslib.sh |
| 10:00.18 | koen | check what the h3900 machine does |
| 10:02.12 | schurig | h3900 does TSLIB_TSDEVICE=/dev/touchscreen/0raw TSLIB_CONFFILE=/usr/share/tslib/ts.conf-h3600-2.4 |
| 10:02.14 | schurig | or detect-stylus |
| 10:02.32 | schurig | and TSLIB_CONFFILE=/usr/share/tslib/ts.conf-h3600-2.4 |
| 10:03.23 | koen | the 2.6 version is more interesting |
| 10:03.54 | koen | that uses detect-stylus to probe all event devices |
| 10:04.24 | schurig | detect-stylus --help |
| 10:04.24 | schurig | Cannot connect to X server. |
| 10:04.35 | schurig | I think I make it hardcoded for now |
| 10:05.14 | schurig | koen: okay, when I want to run X on console 2, what have I do to make this happen? |
| 10:05.52 | koen | no idea |
| 10:06.02 | koen | I think kdrive has a -vt switch |
| 10:06.10 | koen | Xora would know that |
| 10:08.57 | schurig | koen: and who has write access to gpe-bootsplash? I need RAMSES) ARGS="--force-portrait" in S00bootsplash |
| 10:09.14 | schurig | (this one has also a chvt 2 in it, so it might solve my problem) |
| 10:14.36 | florian_kc | schurig: if this script is from gpe cvs that should be easy to add... |
| 10:19.43 | schurig | florian_kc: it is. Should I first bk push it into OE or should I send it somewhere via e-mail? |
| 10:20.58 | mallum | anyone wanna help me out and just test new mb packages build ok for them ( on desktop is fine ) ? |
| 10:21.25 | schurig | http://pastebin.ca/9317 |
| 10:23.35 | florian_kc | mallum: sure... but it might take some time. |
| 10:25.09 | florian_kc | schurig: I'll add it to gpe-bootsplash, pb_ is its maintainer, we should ask him to make a new release then. |
| 10:31.11 | florian_kc | heh |
| 10:31.53 | koen | mallum: what's the current state of translucent panels and menus? |
| 10:32.44 | koen | or to rephrase it: what's the plan/roadmap for translucent eye-candy in MB? |
| 10:37.58 | mallum | koen: not sure |
| 10:38.07 | mallum | koen: really everything needs to go via composite |
| 10:39.14 | mallum | koen: and Im not really that into eyecandy unless it aids UI in some way |
| 10:39.59 | mallum | koen: I think you can already do transparent panels btw, Im not sure if transparent menu's still work |
| 10:43.20 | bedboi | i'm still trying to erase the content of /dev/mtd/2 |
| 10:43.30 | bedboi | cause i have some input/output error |
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| 10:44.54 | koen | hey jsmanrique |
| 10:45.02 | jsmanrique | hi koen |
| 10:45.17 | bedboi | btw flash_eraseall is giving me the following error |
| 10:45.17 | koen | jsmanrique: http://primates.ximian.com/~miguel/archive/2005/Apr-09.html |
| 10:45.18 | jsmanrique | koen: which Sharp are you using for screenshots? |
| 10:45.20 | bedboi | flash_eraseall: /dev/mtdblock/2: unable to get MTD device info |
| 10:45.43 | jsmanrique | koen: I've read it this morning, and I was going to send an email to gpe mailing list, and there you were ;-) |
| 10:45.57 | koen | jsmanrique: a sharp corgi |
| 10:46.04 | jsmanrique | koen: cl-s700? |
| 10:46.09 | koen | yes |
| 10:46.22 | koen | jsmanrique: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/pda/corgi/images/corgi.jpg |
| 10:46.22 | jsmanrique | how is it? (batt life, screen) |
| 10:46.25 | florian_kc | bedboi: hmm that's for nand flash only iirc |
| 10:46.41 | bedboi | florian_kc: i don't have eraseall |
| 10:47.11 | koen | jsmanrique: battery life is bad (3 hours with the normail battery) but the screen makes up for it |
| 10:47.20 | jsmanrique | koen: sure |
| 10:47.40 | koen | but there are "big batteries" available which boost it to workable levels |
| 10:49.29 | jsmanrique | koen: nice to know |
| 10:49.53 | florian_kc | bedboi: is this on an ipaq? |
| 10:50.04 | bedboi | yep. on my h5455 |
| 10:50.21 | bedboi | florian_kc: it seems that mtd-utils lacks eraseall |
| 10:50.33 | florian_kc | bedboi: there is some howto in hh.org wiki... |
| 10:50.52 | koen | isn't it called flash_eraseall nowadays? |
| 10:51.00 | florian_kc | eh nasty... it might be a good idea to use an older one, imho that's safe for nor flash |
| 10:51.11 | bedboi | koen: it seems that it doesn't work for /dev/mtdblocks/2 |
| 10:51.22 | florian_kc | koen: is this for nand only? |
| 10:51.37 | koen | when I tried it on 0.8.0 it worked |
| 10:52.03 | bedboi | koen: i get that error (unable to get MTD device info) |
| 10:52.21 | koen | it worked even when I used mtd1.... |
| 10:52.27 | jsmanrique | I have talked with a Opie developer, and they are planning using webcore for a new web browser |
| 10:53.09 | koen | we tried that too |
| 10:53.23 | koen | but osb-browser kept crashing |
| 10:53.31 | schurig | koen: this is another patch, http://pastebin.ca/9319, for gpe-dm |
| 10:53.39 | schurig | florian_kc: sorry, I meant you |
| 10:53.44 | jsmanrique | koen: aha |
| 10:53.50 | koen | jsmanrique: ask reenoo about the status of gtk-webcore |
| 10:53.53 | schurig | florian_kc: however, the vt2 doesn't work as expected. |
| 10:54.35 | schurig | florian_kc: on the first run, it's on vc2 (so I've no blinking cursor). But when I login and go into the gpe application menu, I'm on vc/1 again, because I got back the blinking cursor |
| 10:55.16 | jsmanrique | koen: I am reading it here: http://gtk-webcore.sourceforge.net/ |
| 10:55.31 | koen | schurig: can you send all the patches to gpe@handhelds.org so they don't get lost? |
| 10:56.16 | schurig | koen: the second one isn't yet ready |
| 11:00.37 | schurig | koen: I need help on this, e.g. how to let X always run on virtual console 2 |
| 11:00.49 | jsmanrique | koen: have you ever seen this: http://www.hpcalc.org/images/qonos-prototype.jpg ? |
| 11:00.57 | jsmanrique | koen: I love that screenshot :-D |
| 11:01.10 | jsmanrique | koen: it is 1500 x 1000 px |
| 11:01.22 | koen | I've seen it before |
| 11:01.40 | jsmanrique | koen: I hope it'll hit the market soon |
| 11:02.12 | jsmanrique | koen: final product will have a 3" b/w screen |
| 11:02.57 | koen | I'd rather have the software running on my handhelds :) |
| 11:03.02 | koen | schurig: no idea, sorry |
| 11:05.31 | jsmanrique | koen: which soft? |
| 11:05.37 | jsmanrique | koen: hp49g emulator? |
| 11:05.47 | koen | xcas and mathexplorer and the hp emulator |
| 11:06.05 | jsmanrique | xcas is not hard to get it working |
| 11:06.36 | jsmanrique | mathexplorer, is closed source from the author.. I have it for PC and for HP Xpander prototype |
| 11:06.57 | jsmanrique | and hp emulator.. is available.. but I haven't been able to get it running in my old h3100 |
| 11:07.12 | jsmanrique | koen: http://www.hpcalc.org/details.php?id=4382 |
| 11:07.31 | jsmanrique | koen: you can email the author to ask for last modifications |
| 11:07.45 | jsmanrique | koen: it is the emulator running in the screenshots |
| 11:08.22 | jsmanrique | koen: I prefer a gui for gnuplot and gnuplot than mathexplorer |
| 11:12.45 | jsmanrique | I know |
| 11:13.11 | koen | let's see if I can come up with some cool scaps this evening |
| 11:16.35 | jsmanrique | koen: running what? |
| 11:16.43 | koen | gnuplot |
| 11:17.53 | jsmanrique | aha |
| 11:18.05 | jsmanrique | koen: next step: tabiword? :-D |
| 11:18.12 | jsmanrique | http://www.cs.umd.edu/~meesh/kmconroy/ |
| 11:18.14 | jsmanrique | XD |
| 11:21.21 | koen | I read your mail, mentioned abiword on irc and florian said "wait, I have a .oe for it" |
| 11:22.32 | koen | when it didn't work I hopped on to #abiword for help |
| 11:22.51 | florian_kc | jsmanrique: uh, that looks interesting... |
| 11:23.14 | jsmanrique | how much would cost a mini-tabletpc, with 4GB HDD, Xscale processor, digitizer interface (using Wacom drivers..), 800x600 or more resolution.. ??? and using Linux+GPE as core.. |
| 11:23.32 | jsmanrique | 8.4" or similar would be enough |
| 11:23.47 | florian_kc | koen: nope, sorry ;-) |
| 11:23.50 | jsmanrique | that would be the perfect pda for me.. |
| 11:24.04 | bedboi | btw the tabiword gui sucks. he developed tabiword for windows xp |
| 11:24.06 | jsmanrique | powerful enough to run abiword, gnumeric and some other apps |
| 11:24.12 | jsmanrique | bedboi: yep |
| 11:24.14 | florian_kc | uh heavy and expensive... |
| 11:24.18 | florian_kc | bedboi: eeks! |
| 11:24.30 | koen | jsmanrique: skeye.pad SL |
| 11:24.31 | florian_kc | jsmanrique: try a flybook |
| 11:24.36 | jsmanrique | and light enough with good battery life |
| 11:24.40 | mallum | jsmanrique: sony u71 |
| 11:24.44 | jsmanrique | koen: maybe |
| 11:24.55 | jsmanrique | but, I think all use touchscreens |
| 11:25.15 | florian_kc | yeah... the skeye.pad XSL would be cool, but it is expensive... |
| 11:25.17 | jsmanrique | what about "solid" screen, that doesn't break or get scrachted as easy |
| 11:25.54 | jsmanrique | I've seen several pda broken screens.. and more surface makes easier to break it |
| 11:26.27 | jsmanrique | that's why I liked TC1000, it looked solid |
| 11:26.27 | bedboi | bbl |
| 11:26.29 | bedboi | going to eath |
| 11:27.33 | jsmanrique | that a mini-tc1000 would be perfect for schools and universities.. |
| 11:28.03 | jsmanrique | but with less power consuption (less HDD, less screen, better processor..) |
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| 11:39.02 | koen | it seems the webcore people updates their cvs |
| 11:39.22 | jsmanrique | does that device exists? I think not |
| 11:39.24 | koen | putting 0.5.1 in cvs but *not* releasing it |
| 11:40.59 | florian_kc | eeks |
| 11:41.15 | florian_kc | that doesn't sound that clever :-/ |
| 11:41.21 | jsmanrique | see you later |
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| 12:13.29 | rob_w-cgi | hi ,, where is the wiki for setting up bitbake and repository from scratch ? |
| 13:35.22 | Cwiiis | koen|itc: Almost finished first set of patches for gxine, it's a lot nicer now, even on the desktop :p |
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| 14:10.36 | bedboi | back |
| 14:16.10 | bedboi | there's a strange issue in 0.8.2 feeds |
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| 14:16.41 | bedboi | ipkg list | grep "conntrack" returns among the others kernel-module-ip-conntrack2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh37 |
| 14:17.00 | bedboi | if i try to install it, ipkg tells me that he/she/it can't find that package |
| 14:17.06 | bedboi | maybe ipkg is broken? |
| 14:17.31 | florian_kc | bedboi: do you try it on a pxa ipaq? |
| 14:17.46 | bedboi | h5455 |
| 14:18.19 | bedboi | i need iptables-nat module |
| 14:19.34 | florian_kc | hrm strange... is this module available for pxa arch? |
| 14:20.02 | bedboi | i was using that with earlier versions |
| 14:20.34 | florian_kc | very strange... |
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| 14:20.44 | florian_kc | eh |
| 14:21.02 | florian_kc | what do you do with nat on that ipaq?! |
| 14:21.20 | bedboi | i always use my ipaq as a bridge :) |
| 14:22.06 | bedboi | h54xx is a perfect gateway :) |
| 14:22.28 | florian_kc | heh |
| 14:23.50 | bedboi | ipkg is the issue |
| 14:24.12 | bedboi | if i download and install manually (using ar -x ... && tar xvzf data.tar.gz) it works |
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| 14:32.59 | bedboi | florian_kc: this is how i'm connected right now |
| 14:33.12 | bedboi | internet <-- eth --> computer_lab <-- usb --> ipaq <-- wifi --> laptop |
| 14:33.28 | florian_kc | bedboi: *g* |
| 14:34.11 | bedboi | and for irc i'm connected through gprs, cause sysadmin here added some stupid rule to filter irc traffic |
| 14:34.50 | bedboi | obviously through bluetooth on ipaq |
| 14:35.15 | bedboi | and i use static routing rules to connect here (tolkien.freenode.net) through ppp0 |
| 14:35.26 | bedboi | like this setting |
| 14:37.42 | florian_kc | oh dear... |
| 14:39.55 | bedboi | btw ipaq is routing 160 k/s of traffic through wlan |
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| 14:41.09 | bedboi | hi there |
| 14:41.22 | jsmanrique | hi |
| 14:41.27 | bedboi | florian_kc: it's a really good router |
| 14:41.45 | bedboi | maybe the smallest router :) |
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| 14:42.48 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 14:45.50 | Cwiiis | http://www.soton.ac.uk/~cil103/gxine.png - Not quite finished yet, but getting there :) |
| 14:46.57 | rob_w-cgi | Cwiss : coool |
| 14:47.40 | rob_w-cgi | Cwiiis : will it play mp3 also ? |
| 14:48.01 | Cwiiis | rob_w-cgi: By default, plays mp3/ogg/mpeg/mpeg4 - So most media |
| 14:48.03 | rob_w-cgi | and how will be the size compared to vlc ? |
| 14:48.15 | Cwiiis | I'm not sure, but I have a feeling it's smaller |
| 14:48.17 | jsmanrique | Cwiiis: ready for gpe? |
| 14:48.28 | rob_w-cgi | very vool |
| 14:48.29 | Cwiiis | jsmanrique: It's in oe, but I've not checked in my interface patches yet |
| 14:48.39 | Cwiiis | jsmanrique: Still got a little work to do with the menus |
| 14:48.50 | jsmanrique | ok |
| 14:49.09 | Cwiiis | And gotta add a properties dialog to replace the info-bar I removed |
| 14:49.19 | jsmanrique | nice |
| 14:49.46 | Cwiiis | I'd like to add proper language/subtitles menus as well, but that might be pushing it |
| 14:51.04 | florian_kc | Cwiiis: looks nice... |
| 14:59.34 | rob_w-cgi | can someone point me to the wiki on how to start bitbake, oe and repositories from scratch ,.. seems not touching the rep for certain renders it unusable for future updates |
| 15:01.31 | Cwiiis | rob_w-cgi: Check GettingStarted on the oe wiki |
| 15:05.36 | mallum | Cwiiis: hey |
| 15:05.44 | Cwiiis | Hey mallum |
| 15:05.53 | mallum | Cwiiis: I have some new mb tar balls |
| 15:06.02 | mallum | Cwiiis: wanna check they build ok for you ? |
| 15:06.29 | Cwiiis | mallum: Excellent :) Will do - ctrl+s/ctrl+q pauses and resumes a terminal, doesn't it? (got another oe build going) |
| 15:06.58 | Cwiiis | mallum: The tarballs are at the usual address I take it? |
| 15:07.07 | mallum | Cwiiis: one sec |
| 15:07.41 | mallum | Cwiiis: I put them on butterfeet.org |
| 15:07.53 | mallum | Cwiiis: new libmatchbox, panel and wm |
| 15:09.32 | bedboi | mallum: what's new? |
| 15:10.21 | mallum | bedboi: panel has most new stuff , better wireless applet, clock applet etc |
| 15:11.08 | bedboi | cool |
| 15:13.40 | Cwiiis | mallum: Does libmatchbox 1.7 configure ok with automake 1.9? (small change, I think I sent you a patch) |
| 15:15.37 | Cwiiis | well, I'll find out :) |
| 15:20.42 | mallum | Cwiiis: should do |
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| 15:22.03 | Cwiiis | mallum: Do you know if the two patches in oe for matchbox-panel still apply? (allow-100-per-cent-battery and no_time_support) |
| 15:25.19 | mallum | Cwiiis: no, I think they are applied now |
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| 15:30.33 | mccarthy | hi all |
| 15:30.47 | florian_kc | hi mccarthy |
| 15:31.19 | koen | hey mccarthy |
| 15:32.42 | Cwiiis | mallum: All builds fine here, bb's ready for when you upload |
| 15:35.09 | mallum | Cwiiis: okey, remember the urls will be different though |
| 15:35.16 | mallum | Cwiiis: will give you then when uploaded |
| 15:35.32 | Cwiiis | mallum: I assumed they'd be in the same folders as the old ones with the same naming scheme |
| 15:35.45 | Cwiiis | mallum: But if they've changed, send along of course ) |
| 15:35.47 | Cwiiis | *:) |
| 15:36.13 | mccarthy | I would *really* like libschedule to work on a desktop .... |
| 15:37.13 | mccarthy | doesn anyone know why we didn't simply use the "real" at for familiar? |
| 15:37.34 | mccarthy | (or know of s simple test to check which at is available?) |
| 15:38.27 | Cwiiis | at..? |
| 15:39.08 | mccarthy | hmmm. I thought we used to have an "at" script to interface with our special "atd", but I guess no longer ... |
| 15:46.29 | Cwiiis | No idea |
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| 15:48.22 | bedboi | is it a known issue that Alarm doesn't work? |
| 15:48.27 | mallum | Cwiiis: http://projects.o-hand.com/matchbox/ |
| 15:48.31 | bedboi | (at leat for me) |
| 15:48.33 | mallum | Cwiiis: links there |
| 15:48.43 | Cwiiis | mallum: cheers, will update and push |
| 15:50.09 | mallum | Cwiiis: thanks dood |
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| 16:02.59 | koen | mallum: s/cpo/cpu/ |
| 16:05.07 | mallum | erk, thanks :) |
| 16:06.03 | Cwiiis | mallum: Done |
| 16:07.27 | mallum | Cwiiis: thanks again :) |
| 16:07.44 | Cwiiis | np :) Will try them out on my pda in a bit too |
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| 16:15.10 | luc | hi |
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| 16:17.40 | koen | hey luc |
| 16:22.33 | florian_kc | luc: hi! |
| 16:25.12 | luc | hello florian_kc, koen! |
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| 16:27.14 | luc | slightly off topic, what are suitable video formats to put on the web? |
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| 16:30.05 | florian_kc | phew... |
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| 16:35.29 | koen | mpeg1 2 and 4 |
| 16:36.42 | luc | koen: thanks! |
| 16:37.04 | luc | rebooting under OSX to play with videos... |
| 16:37.04 | luc | bbl |
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| 16:47.56 | pocek | Hi |
| 16:48.22 | florian_kc | pocek: hi |
| 16:49.55 | pocek | Where can I change gpe desktop font to not being bold? |
| 16:50.17 | pocek | I don't see it at look and feel :/ |
| 16:50.22 | koen | the matchbox theme.xml iirc |
| 16:50.53 | pocek | hmm, thanks |
| 17:10.54 | pocek | No Polish keyboard layout for xkbd? Can I make one? ;) |
| 17:11.07 | koen | sure |
| 17:11.14 | pocek | :) |
| 17:16.28 | florian_kc | I remember someone had one... but i don't know where it is... maybe google finds it. |
| 17:49.00 | florian_kc | bbl |
| 17:51.22 | bedboi | bbl |
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| 19:18.37 | florian | re |
| 19:19.12 | luc | florian: wb |
| 19:21.34 | florian | hmm, where is pb_? |
| 19:22.13 | Philippe | evening |
| 19:22.26 | luc | hey Philippe |
| 19:22.52 | Philippe | hi luc |
| 19:22.58 | florian | hi Philippe |
| 19:23.18 | luc | florian: when is he going to australia? |
| 19:23.34 | Philippe | hi florian |
| 19:24.46 | koen|tv | ~seen pb_ |
| 19:24.50 | ibot | pb_ <~pb@205-136-222-203.rev.techex.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #gpe, 10h 47m 40s ago, saying: 'bbl'. |
| 19:25.10 | koen|tv | looks like pb already is down under |
| 19:25.35 | florian | hmm indeed... |
| 19:26.01 | florian | then its maybe too early in the morning now ;-) |
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| 19:45.59 | luc | koen|tv: I am a pathetic video hobbyist... with half screen size the .mp4 file was two times biger than the original .mov :( |
| 19:46.41 | koen|tv | D'oh |
| 19:46.47 | florian | heh |
| 19:47.12 | luc | but our video rocks anyway :) |
| 19:47.18 | luc | http://www.fihb-horseball.org/video.html |
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| 19:51.32 | rob_wpda | florian did you had a gpe image for a gooroo webpad? |
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| 19:53.03 | florian | rob_wpda: nope |
| 19:53.18 | koen|tv | luc: that sport looks very cool |
| 19:54.13 | bob__ | too bad, their "linux" os is quite shitty |
| 19:54.52 | luc | koen|tv: that's _THE_ sport ;) |
| 19:55.07 | robw2 | looks like xchat looses connection when i use minimo |
| 19:55.26 | robw2 | which sport? |
| 19:56.00 | koen|tv | robw2: http://www.fihb-horseball.org/video.html |
| 19:56.24 | luc | robw2: also www.123-horseball.org |
| 20:01.03 | robw2 | hmm nice horses |
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| 20:09.53 | florian | unknown26: hello! |
| 20:09.59 | koen|tv | hey unknown26 |
| 20:10.07 | unknown26 | Hi florian and koen |
| 20:10.26 | unknown26 | Do you guys know of any bugs that would stop the lcd from activating at boot? :-/ |
| 20:10.38 | koen|tv | h5xxx? |
| 20:10.42 | unknown26 | yep |
| 20:11.14 | koen|tv | try the battery trick |
| 20:11.28 | unknown26 | ok |
| 20:25.02 | luc | good night all. |
| 20:25.12 | koen|tv | 'night luc |
| 21:03.50 | mccarthy | what is the battery trick? |
| 21:04.35 | florian | mccarthy: remove the battery, disconnect ac and wait a loong time. |
| 21:04.48 | mccarthy | tricky :) |
| 21:04.56 | koen|tv | a looooooooooooong time even |
| 21:05.08 | florian | yeah |
| 21:05.37 | koen|tv | the internal backup battery needs to be drained completely |
| 21:06.51 | koen|tv | which you can do while travelling to FOSDEM |
| 21:07.23 | koen|tv | and travelling back from FOSDEM..... |
| 21:07.58 | Philippe | Well before FOSDEM is organized again it definitelt should be drained....(february next year) :-) |
| 21:08.12 | koen|tv | my h5550 decided to need the trick 3 times using FOSDEM |
| 21:09.22 | mccarthy | so what modules should I kill to get my 5550 to sleep contentedly (i.e., *not* drain the battery) over the weekend? |
| 21:10.26 | koen|tv | cross your fingers and hope for the best |
| 21:10.33 | florian | everything usb and wireless related stuff... |
| 21:10.51 | koen|tv | or remove the battery when you don't need the device |
| 21:11.08 | mccarthy | florian: why are these all these usb modules anyway? is the wireless hooked up through a usb-like thingie? |
| 21:11.22 | koen|tv | yes |
| 21:11.38 | mccarthy | but no *external* usb-host :( |
| 21:11.48 | koen|tv | correct |
| 21:11.54 | florian | yeah... these h5xxx are nasty devices :-/ |
| 21:11.57 | mccarthy | that was dumb |
| 21:12.51 | koen|tv | my that's hp |
| 21:12.58 | koen|tv | s/my // |
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| 21:16.32 | mccarthy | well. one of these days at least my desktop will sound alarms using gpe-calendar (it was very lazy of us to require root priveledges for some of this stuff...like libschedule) |
| 21:16.50 | reenoo_ | evening |
| 21:18.12 | florian | mccarthy: sounds good.... |
| 21:18.16 | florian | hey reenoo_ |
| 21:18.39 | mccarthy | later all |
| 21:21.43 | reenoo_ | yo florian |
| 21:22.02 | koen|tv | hey reenoo_ |
| 21:22.08 | pigeon | hey |
| 21:22.46 | reenoo_ | hi koen|tv |
| 21:22.54 | reenoo_ | yo pigeon |
| 21:23.06 | reenoo_ | ~praise today for being almost over |
| 21:23.08 | ibot | All hail today for being almost over! |
| 21:23.08 | pigeon | yo reenoo_ |
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| 21:33.11 | reenoo_ | heh |
| 21:33.13 | reenoo_ | http://kerneltrap.org/node/4982 |
| 21:41.09 | Philippe | the smallbox() function seems to take complete focus, and as such making it impossible to use any of the on-screen input. Has it been replaced? Or am I really wrong? |
| 21:42.29 | florian | Philippe: that definitely not the expected behaviour... |
| 21:44.20 | Philippe | Well maybe it only occurs with me... I tracked down the bug I see with the timesheet program down to the smallbox() function. As I see no other functions possibly stealing focus there.... |
| 21:44.48 | florian | hrm nasty... |
| 21:45.09 | Philippe | Maybe somebody could try to reproduce the following: click on Time tracker, then new, and try to activate the keyboard or something else... |
| 21:49.01 | florian | hmm... just "new" in timetracker? |
| 21:50.42 | Philippe | yes, and then try to put some text in the input box... It might also be a problem with my build.. |
| 21:51.17 | florian | this works here... with some familiar 0.8.1+some unstable image |
| 21:51.53 | Philippe | florian, I'll try a new build and see if fixes the problem. |
| 21:54.39 | florian | hrm.. i can't find out why the serial port on Peter's NBP doesn't work :-/ |
| 21:57.58 | Philippe | florian, you are not the only one :-) |
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| 22:04.35 | koen | slightly OT: who has a blog and blogs about handhelds stuff once a while? |
| 22:06.07 | koen | hh.org is considering hosting a planet.handhelds.org to consolidate those blogs |
| 22:07.23 | florian | i thought about doing this... the only thing stopping me from this is time... |
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| 22:22.14 | Cwiiis | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.21837.png |
| 22:22.17 | Cwiiis | :) |
| 22:22.51 | koen | beer! |
| 22:23.19 | Cwiiis | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.21993.png |
| 22:23.42 | koen | Cwiiis: cheers! |
| 22:24.09 | koen | Cwiiis: that's with the gxine in OE? |
| 22:24.12 | Cwiiis | submitting to OE now |
| 22:25.23 | Philippe | bk push Duvel :-) |
| 22:26.31 | florian | Cwiiis: nice! |
| 22:26.43 | florian | ~guinness Cwiiis |
| 22:26.45 | ibot | ACTION pours a creamy pint of dark bitter guinness stout and hands it to Cwiiis |
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| 22:27.35 | Cwiiis | :) |
| 22:27.52 | Cwiiis | koen: You might want to make that the default instead of vlc-gpe now (if I don't say so myself, it's a much better interface :p) |
| 22:28.11 | Cwiiis | whoops, I'll try pushing first :p |
| 22:28.24 | Philippe | ~Duvel Cwiiis |
| 22:28.46 | Cwiiis | koen: In oe, check it out :) |
| 22:28.55 | njan | when I enable 'lock on suspend' in GPE, the 'screen locked' dialog which it presents doesn't have any way of entering a password.. just posted this in #handhelds.org too, apologies if anyone is being hit twice.. |
| 22:29.05 | njan | don't suppose this is one of those nice, friendly, known bugs that someone can tell me how to easily fix? :p |
| 22:31.54 | reenoo_ | Cwiiis: nice. that looks actually usable gui-wise |
| 22:31.55 | florian | huh, nasty--- |
| 22:32.17 | florian | Cwiiis: what about its size...? |
| 22:32.27 | Cwiiis | reenoo_: It is, I've reworked all the menus as well - The only menu I don't like is the media menu, I need to cut down the info in it... |
| 22:32.29 | florian | njan: Which image do you use on which device? |
| 22:32.56 | Cwiiis | florian: -rw-r--r-- 1 cwiiis cwiiis 403984 2005-04-11 23:11 tmp/deploy/ipk/gxine_0.4.1enhanced-r0_arm.ipk |
| 22:32.56 | njan | gpe-image-h3600-20050222182814.rootfs.jffs2 on an ipaq 3660 |
| 22:33.03 | Crofton_ | ls |
| 22:33.37 | florian | Cwiiis: looks pretty nice... what else does it pull in? |
| 22:34.28 | reenoo_ | libxine + codec specific deps I'd guess |
| 22:35.44 | Cwiiis | I'll add it up now |
| 22:36.26 | florian | njan: oh well... i can reproduce this here. |
| 22:36.34 | njan | florian, can or can't? |
| 22:36.45 | florian | I wonder how this happened... |
| 22:36.48 | florian | njan: i can |
| 22:36.51 | njan | ah |
| 22:36.52 | njan | :) |
| 22:36.53 | njan | reassuring |
| 22:37.35 | njan | I'm no expert on gtk or linux on handhelds, but it looks to me like the the GTK theme is totally different to the one at logon, although that could be because the logon screen is running as a different user. Something to do with the way the lock dialog runs as a regular user? |
| 22:37.46 | koen | aargh |
| 22:38.02 | koen | gxine looks for the *hosts* libtool |
| 22:38.38 | florian | ibot: bootmail for pb_ Did we have any changes in gpe-login lateley? The lock feature is missing xkbd on ipaq... which is very bad if you need to enter a password. |
| 22:38.39 | ibot | that's too long, florian |
| 22:38.52 | Cwiiis | florian / reenoo_ : gxine + deps (libxine, plugins, deps) = 1.8 megs (ipk size) |
| 22:38.54 | florian | koen: thats nasty |
| 22:39.07 | florian | Cwiiis: sounds really nice |
| 22:39.13 | florian | ibot: bootmail for pb_ Did we have any changes in gpe-login lateley? The lock feature is missing xkbd on ipaq... |
| 22:39.14 | ibot | florian: that's too long |
| 22:39.27 | florian | *gnaa* |
| 22:39.34 | reenoo_ | florian: try botmail |
| 22:39.39 | Cwiiis | florian: That setup lets it play vorbis, mp3, mpeg1, mpeg4 and various image types |
| 22:39.43 | florian | ibot: botmail for pb_ Did we have any changes in gpe-login lateley? The lock feature is missing xkbd on ipaq... which is very bad if you need to enter a password. |
| 22:40.05 | reenoo_ | :) |
| 22:40.06 | florian | reenoo_: heh right, thanks... |
| 22:40.12 | reenoo_ | np |
| 22:40.43 | florian | Cwiiis: cool! |
| 22:42.22 | florian | njan: more or less... it reads its own, special theme file. |
| 22:42.54 | njan | florian, gotcha. I guessed it would be a little different to the way I'm used to GTK stuff working, but I'm a networking/security person, I don't mess around much with gtk/x/stuff :) |
| 22:43.19 | koen | reenoo_: your pyblosxom link is broken |
| 22:43.32 | koen | it moved from roughingit to sf.net |
| 22:44.11 | florian | njan: hey, you need to try the sectest image :-) |
| 22:45.11 | florian | koen: Did you add that gxine screenshots to the gallery? |
| 22:45.26 | njan | there's something inherently interesting-sounding about the phrase 'sectest image' ;) |
| 22:45.31 | njan | What is it, where is it? :p |
| 22:46.11 | florian | njan: We have a target in OE which builds a gpe-image with all kind of security and networking tools. |
| 22:46.23 | florian | Do we have a recent image ready? |
| 22:46.44 | reenoo_ | koen: will fix that one of these days... |
| 22:47.06 | koen | florian: http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8.2/install/files/ |
| 22:47.28 | florian | s/florian/njan ;-) |
| 22:47.40 | florian | koen: but thanks |
| 22:47.55 | koen | florian: you asked for an image :) |
| 22:49.37 | florian | hrm... why does bitbake overwrite an existing image if i build the gpe-image target?! |
| 22:49.41 | Cwiiis | florian: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.31252.png - Old gxine, for reference ;) |
| 22:50.10 | njan | florian, where would I go to hunt down a changelog for the sectest image? (wondering if it's worth reinstalling with that, as I've installed a fair amount of junk onto my ipaq already..) |
| 22:52.39 | florian | we have two new friends in the gallery... |
| 22:53.01 | florian | oh dear |
| 22:53.19 | florian | where is TyggerBob? He is the master of sectest image. |
| 22:55.11 | njan | TyggerBob, huh.. ;) |
| 22:55.45 | florian | Philippe: Do you know if Peter got _any_ output on the serial port? |
| 22:55.45 | njan | I'll give him a poke next time I see him in #osstmm or #isecom, I think.. |
| 22:56.09 | florian | njan: ah cool |
| 22:56.16 | Cwiiis | the mb wireless applet has stopped appearing automatically for me and if I add it manually, it stays there with the card out as well... Anyone got any ideas? |
| 22:58.57 | koen | reenoo_: my latest try at getting pyblosxom to work: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/blog/ |
| 22:59.17 | koen | (could the name be any harder to spell: pyblosxom?) |
| 22:59.32 | Philippe | florian, I believe we could see the bootloader messages and the box seems to freeze after that. No way either to actually stop the thing from booting. |
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| 23:00.17 | Philippe | florian, I will probabely see him somewhere this week, so I could check with Peter. |
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| 23:01.29 | florian | Philippe: i just read that there are some models around which don't power up the serial port at all, but this would mean to have no output at all. |
| 23:02.58 | koen | florian: you could have a ghostwriter for your blog (e.g. your girlfriend) ;) |
| 23:03.54 | florian | koen: that would be funny... her english is more or less non-existant ;-) |
| 23:06.24 | Philippe | florian, I'll check with P2 |
| 23:07.21 | Philippe | florian, actually, is there an easy way to open up NB's? |
| 23:08.21 | rdwtux_ | the 700 snapshot won't run on the zaurus c860, will it? |
| 23:08.32 | koen | rdwtux_: it will |
| 23:08.39 | rdwtux_ | OhH.. k, i'll try ;) |
| 23:08.41 | florian | Philippe: well... physical? |
| 23:09.48 | Philippe | florian, a preferred method without using a hammer would be nice (if you are talking about opening the NB of course) |
| 23:10.00 | reenoo_ | koen: nice |
| 23:10.59 | reenoo_ | 'night all |
| 23:11.04 | Philippe | night reenoo_ |
| 23:11.13 | koen | 'night reenoo_ |
| 23:30.26 | florian | koen: is "STAGING_BINDIR" the one with the host binaries? |
| 23:31.38 | koen | it should be |
| 23:35.02 | florian | koen: i have cdump there, but the cp command in abiword bb fails... |
| 23:38.33 | koen | hmm |
| 23:38.51 | koen | try bbread abiword_2.2.7.bb | grep BINDIR |
| 23:39.00 | koen | and the same on cdump-native |
| 23:40.43 | koen | florian: does it find cdump and not the abi/ dir? |
| 23:41.36 | florian | koen: it is more complicated... even if you move in that binary it is replaced by an arm version. |
| 23:42.31 | koen | I see |
| 23:43.01 | koen | We'll have to patch the Makefile to use the one in STAGING |
| 23:43.14 | florian | yeah |
| 23:43.20 | florian | that would be better... |
| 23:43.41 | koen | 'night all |
| 23:53.19 | Philippe | night |
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