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| 00:06.25 | DougT | hi all. |
| 00:07.21 | DougT | i have a team working on Minimo for Linux. I need feedback so that we can start fixing bugs. |
| 00:07.49 | DougT | koen|sleep did spin a build recently. |
| 00:08.24 | Cwiiis | DougT: Been using 0401 here, and it's quite nice :) |
| 00:09.00 | Cwiiis | DougT: The exit button is always non-visible though, even with a theme that has no window-border - the info button is a bit superfluous, maybe get rid of that? |
| 00:09.17 | DougT | good suggestion, keep them coming. |
| 00:09.18 | Cwiiis | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.2528.png (example of non-visible exit) |
| 00:09.26 | DougT | can you write them up in bugzilla.mozilla.org? |
| 00:09.31 | Cwiiis | Sure |
| 00:10.00 | Cwiiis | ah, bugzilla needs ssl :/ (using links at the moment) |
| 00:10.17 | DougT | heh |
| 00:10.56 | DougT | need to protect _everyones_ pw so that the 10 people that need a secure login have it. |
| 00:11.09 | Cwiiis | hehe |
| 00:11.37 | Cwiiis | I'll load up firefox, just for you :) hehe |
| 00:12.19 | DougT | thanks |
| 00:15.16 | Cwiiis | Is it just me or does the back button not work at the moment? |
| 00:15.25 | DougT | in firefox? |
| 00:15.35 | Cwiiis | minimo |
| 00:15.49 | DougT | right, if you go back you will turn to salt. |
| 00:16.09 | DougT | in the file all.js there is a preference controlling how many pages we keep in session history. |
| 00:16.16 | DougT | i think it is set to 1 or zero. |
| 00:16.58 | DougT | the current implementation of session history is a pig.... |
| 00:17.03 | DougT | for minimo, we need to rewrite it. |
| 00:17.15 | DougT | and break a few things that you get on the desktop. |
| 00:17.23 | Cwiiis | ah.. |
| 00:17.57 | DougT | for example, in session history, we save the current focus point so that when you go forward, and then go back, the page scrolls to where you were. |
| 00:18.01 | DougT | tihs is really nice... |
| 00:18.09 | Cwiiis | I'm guessing you're aware of the whole scrollbars thing? |
| 00:18.13 | DougT | but it requires that you keep part of the DOM (if not all of it) around. |
| 00:18.31 | DougT | what scrollbar thing? |
| 00:18.42 | DougT | ah.. |
| 00:18.45 | DougT | you don't have any. |
| 00:19.00 | DougT | koen|sleep must have not put the right files in place. |
| 00:19.14 | Cwiiis | They don't appear for the main page, and when they do appear (for frames), they don't seem to behave as you'd expect |
| 00:19.26 | DougT | odd. |
| 00:19.33 | DougT | maybe someone broke something. |
| 00:19.45 | DougT | there might be a bug. feel free to file one. |
| 00:19.52 | DougT | i don't think I have seen it. |
| 00:19.56 | Cwiiis | Its been like that for a long time for me, since December last year at least |
| 00:20.02 | Cwiiis | Will do |
| 00:20.16 | DougT | cool |
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| 00:49.12 | Cwiiis | ok, I really don't have enough spare ram to be running firefox at the moment :p |
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| 00:50.45 | Cwiiis | DougT: Will file those bug reports as soon as my machine finishes compiling |
| 00:52.58 | Cwiiis | actually, can file them on my laptop, what the hell am I doing :p |
| 00:57.22 | DougT | okay. |
| 00:57.23 | DougT | thanks |
| 01:05.30 | Cwiiis | Pathetic I can OOM on a machine with 640 megs of ram... |
| 01:12.30 | Cwiiis | DougT: Is there a way I can get the build identifier off minimo? |
| 01:13.19 | DougT | you got it from the feed? |
| 01:13.33 | Cwiiis | DougT: No, built myself |
| 01:13.42 | Cwiiis | But it will be in a feed soon |
| 01:13.54 | Cwiiis | (OpenZaurus 3.5.3) |
| 01:13.57 | DougT | use the cvs pull date. |
| 01:14.04 | Cwiiis | ok |
| 01:14.05 | DougT | whenver you pulled it, that is what it is. :-) |
| 01:14.27 | Cwiiis | :) |
| 01:16.19 | Cwiiis | Would you say scrollbars never appearing is a normal or major severity? |
| 01:16.38 | Cwiiis | No problem to use the arrow keys on a pda (in fact, far more convenient), but I guess it'd be a bummer if you didn't have those :p |
| 01:29.26 | Cwiiis | DougT ? |
| 01:32.22 | Cwiiis | I'll assume major |
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| 01:48.11 | Cwiiis | DougT: Filed 2 bugs and a feature request |
| 01:48.15 | Cwiiis | (289040, 289044, 289045 |
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| 08:25.06 | koen|sleep | good morning all |
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| 08:26.36 | florian_hrz | hi all |
| 08:28.19 | koen | hey florian_hrz |
| 08:29.51 | p0m | Morning koen. |
| 08:31.05 | koen | hey p0m, I say you popping up in the Roadster meeting log :) |
| 08:31.48 | p0m | I did?> |
| 08:32.00 | p0m | I know I went in to look, but got bored. |
| 08:32.10 | p0m | That reminds me koen, is my email still in limbo? |
| 08:32.55 | koen | I haven't seen it come through |
| 08:33.33 | p0m | I got an email back saying it had to be approved by the mod. |
| 08:33.33 | p0m | Because it was classed as spam. |
| 08:34.04 | koen | hmmm |
| 08:34.09 | koen | try to resend |
| 08:34.21 | koen | or poke nils to do the admin job |
| 08:35.41 | p0m | Where is nils? |
| 08:36.47 | koen | in germany :) |
| 08:37.35 | p0m | I meant right now lol. |
| 08:37.49 | koen | still in germany :) |
| 08:37.56 | p0m | I wonder why it spat it out. |
| 08:38.47 | p0m | I meant where is he, so I can hunt him down and tell him to approve it :) |
| 08:39.09 | p0m | Your mail to 'GPE' with the subject |
| 08:39.09 | p0m | Suggested extra tools for Sectest GPE. |
| 08:39.09 | p0m | Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. |
| 08:39.09 | p0m | The reason it is being held: |
| 08:39.09 | p0m | SpamAssassin identified this message as possible spam (score 4.2) |
| 08:39.38 | p0m | Do I have to be signed up to the list to send to it/ |
| 08:40.12 | koen | you shouldn't be |
| 08:43.48 | p0m | koen: Re-sent. |
| 08:46.16 | p0m | koen: I've got the spamassassin rating down to 3.1 from 4.2 so far. |
| 08:46.30 | florian_hrz | Tell me if it doesn't work... i have some "direct access" to Nils ;-) |
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| 08:46.59 | p0m | I think it's all hte bullet points and other ascii characters in it. |
| 08:47.04 | p0m | I'll strip them out. |
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| 08:50.36 | p0m | Hi mallum. |
| 08:51.10 | p0m | koen: From 3.1 to 2.5 now. |
| 08:51.15 | p0m | I wonder what's triggering it. |
| 08:53.05 | p0m | Meh. |
| 08:53.13 | p0m | florian_hrz: Still no luck. |
| 08:53.19 | koen | hey mallum & Timelord |
| 08:53.30 | p0m | I'll just cancel this one and re-send the original for the queue. |
| 08:53.52 | p0m | Spamassassin on the server seems to be quite vicious. |
| 08:53.58 | koen | yeah |
| 08:54.13 | koen | with 1 spam message a day some people get a bit nasty |
| 08:54.28 | koen | "too much spam, stinking admins" |
| 08:54.30 | koen | etc. |
| 08:54.48 | p0m | Ohh noes, one spamm message! |
| 08:55.50 | p0m | Hmm. |
| 08:55.51 | p0m | To post a message to all the list members, after you hgave susbcribed successfully, send email to gpe@handhelds.org |
| 08:56.10 | koen | when people started complaining I was getting more spam per hour than familiar@ in a week |
| 08:56.21 | koen | hmm, gpe@ should really be an open list |
| 08:56.29 | p0m | Doesn't appear to be. |
| 08:56.37 | p0m | Not that I mind joining the list. |
| 08:57.32 | florian_hrz | I just updated the website.... we have a link to new gallery and gpe-helpviewer now. |
| 08:57.41 | mallum | hey koen, p0m, florian_hrz |
| 08:57.50 | florian_hrz | mallum: morning |
| 08:57.55 | p0m | Is it just me, or has there been nothing posted on gpe@handhelds.org since 2004? |
| 08:57.56 | koen | florian_hrz: cool |
| 08:58.15 | florian_hrz | p0m: the archive is broken |
| 08:58.17 | koen | p0m: see the topic in #handhelds.org |
| 08:58.34 | p0m | Ohh, duh. |
| 08:59.02 | p0m | florian_hrz: Where's the new gallery? |
| 08:59.36 | florian_hrz | p0m: currently here: http://handhelds.org/~florian/gallery |
| 08:59.52 | p0m | Ahh, I went looking for it on the wiki and hte gpe page. |
| 09:02.18 | p0m | florian_hrz: I have a few images that I've shrunk etc for backgrounds, want a copy? |
| 09:05.31 | florian_hrz | p0m: sure :-) |
| 09:12.19 | p0m | florian_hrz: Dcc, ftp? |
| 09:13.01 | florian_hrz | p0m: ftp |
| 09:15.15 | p0m | Whereabouts? |
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| 09:18.22 | dballester | hi to all |
| 09:18.34 | koen | hey dballester |
| 09:19.31 | florian_hrz | dballester: hello |
| 09:19.39 | florian_hrz | wait |
| 09:23.10 | koen | LOL |
| 09:23.12 | koen | http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/research/recording_head/pr/PerpendicularAnimation.html |
| 09:23.26 | koen | perpendicular harddisk recording explained :) |
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| 09:42.02 | florian_hrz | http://handhelds.org/~gpe/gallery/ |
| 09:42.06 | florian_hrz | _but_ |
| 09:42.37 | florian_hrz | It is read only at the moment, i don't have permissions to change the owner of some files. |
| 10:03.26 | florian_hrz | p0m: Where can i find your backgrounds? |
| 10:04.14 | p0m | florian_hrz: Not online yet, I'll throw them up on my domain in a sec. |
| 10:04.45 | florian_hrz | p0m: okay, many thanks! |
| 10:12.34 | p0m | florian_hrz: http://www.p0m.net/images/Backgrounds/ |
| 10:15.34 | florian_hrz | p0m: okay, got them :-) |
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| 10:38.45 | Cwiiis | koen: A build with a CVSDATE of 20050207 yielded no joy... Have you tried using ipk's from familiar 0.8.1? |
| 10:40.29 | Cwiiis | mallum: Did you get the chance to check out my patch for mb-applet-wireless? And any chance of making a release of matchbox-panel/matchbox-wm before tomorrow? |
| 10:45.06 | mallum | Cwiiis: its on my todo for today |
| 10:45.17 | mallum | Cwiiis: I have a load of panel patches to sort out :( |
| 10:46.13 | Cwiiis | mallum: Need a hand? |
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| 10:47.19 | reenoo | afternoon |
| 10:47.33 | mallum | Cwiiis: see 109-116 here http://bugs.openedhand.com/index.cgi/Matchbox/index |
| 10:47.46 | koen | hey reenoo |
| 10:47.58 | reenoo | hi koen |
| 10:48.28 | mallum | Cwiiis: then I have another patch from Philippe that make the battery applet display hours + mins but the translations need updating |
| 10:48.43 | mallum | Cwiiis: he said me a mail saying he was going to do that as well |
| 10:49.29 | Cwiiis | ah.. |
| 10:51.59 | p0m | I just read that as "that make the bakery applet display hours" |
| 10:52.21 | mallum | so it displays hours / mins |
| 10:52.32 | mallum | rather than just mins |
| 10:53.10 | Cwiiis | mallum: I'll have a look at the patches from 109-116 |
| 10:53.16 | mallum | cool, thanks |
| 10:53.33 | mallum | they are from a BSD guy so I just need to check they dont break anything on linux |
| 10:53.47 | Cwiiis | koen: Do you think you could try xserver-kdrive and/or xproto and xmodmap from familiar 0.8.1 to see if it fixes shortcut keys? |
| 10:53.48 | mallum | he did a load of mb-wm ones too which were applied ( and fine ) |
| 10:54.14 | Cwiiis | mallum: mmm, I suspect the rxvt can't be found patch may be unnecessary, but haven't looked at the patch yet |
| 10:55.46 | Cwiiis | koen: (I'd try them myself, but I only have soft-float builds handy) |
| 10:56.09 | koen | Cwiiis: I'm quite sure xserver is not at fault for the keys |
| 10:56.39 | Cwiiis | koen: In which case, xproto and xmodmap then, possibly? |
| 10:56.46 | Cwiiis | well, almost certainly not xmodmap... |
| 10:58.00 | Cwiiis | Just want to get some sort of clue as to where to look... |
| 10:59.02 | mallum | Cwiiis: also florian was supposed finding better icons for the wireless app, dunno if he did |
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| 10:59.35 | koen | Cwiiis: mallum or pb would be the X guru's |
| 10:59.47 | koen | I only know it breaks and ruins my mood |
| 11:00.27 | koen | the X people ignoring bugzilla doesn't help my mood either |
| 11:00.43 | florian_kc | re |
| 11:02.23 | koen | wb florian_kc |
| 11:04.06 | mallum | koen, florian_kc : can you not just map the power key to some random X keysym just SYSREQ or something ? |
| 11:04.16 | mallum | s/just/like/ |
| 11:05.04 | koen | no idea |
| 11:05.18 | koen | that might break too |
| 11:05.20 | mallum | koen: you've ruined my mood |
| 11:05.42 | mallum | florian_kc: did you ever find any better icons for wireless applet ? |
| 11:06.15 | koen | it seems everything pda related (touchscreen, buttons) is broken |
| 11:06.56 | mallum | urg |
| 11:06.58 | florian_kc | mallum, koen: yes, i think that's possible... i think we did this on the Simpad. |
| 11:07.04 | mallum | whats happened to touchscreen ? |
| 11:07.16 | koen | remapping keys each time X people break something is a bit too labour intensive for me |
| 11:07.24 | Cwiiis | The strange/annoying thing about the buttons breaking is that we seem to be using the same versions as we were when it was working :/ Smells like configuration error... |
| 11:07.59 | mallum | koen: just use a 'standard' keysym, not one thats just bruttally hacked in by patching libc, server pulling in hh.org kernel headers etc |
| 11:08.17 | koen | the ipaq-sleep thing on 2.6/Z is driving me mad too |
| 11:08.24 | mallum | koen: look in /usr/include/X11/keysym.h for a large range of choices |
| 11:09.00 | florian_kc | koen: ah what's up with this? i think we can fix this... |
| 11:09.46 | koen | florian_kc: mb-wm can only grab the rootwin when started before ipaq-sleep |
| 11:10.04 | koen | removing ipaq-sleep breaks it and starting mb-wm after it fails |
| 11:10.15 | koen | I have *no* idea how to explain that |
| 11:10.27 | mallum | me niether |
| 11:10.45 | koen | I can't test on 2.4 because the kernels breaks on my c700 |
| 11:10.50 | mallum | koen: try commenting out the xscreensaver calls in ipaq-sleep and see if that makes any difference |
| 11:11.32 | florian_kc | heh?! that sounds interesting.... maybe i can reproduce this on our sl-5000 |
| 11:17.06 | Cwiiis | mallum: You can use keysym's with mb-wm? |
| 11:17.33 | mallum | Cwiiis: yeah of course |
| 11:17.41 | mallum | Cwiiis: it would be crazed to use keycodes |
| 11:17.53 | Cwiiis | sorry, I think I meant keycodes :) hehe |
| 11:18.05 | mallum | hehe |
| 11:18.10 | Cwiiis | xmodmap isn't working at all for collie at the moment... |
| 11:18.55 | Cwiiis | For the one key that the key-name is still valid for, it reports success, but xev doesn't show the key name |
| 11:21.24 | mallum | uh |
| 11:22.51 | Cwiiis | It's an annoying regression for 3.5.3 :/ |
| 11:23.10 | reenoo | well, fwiw, accidently upgrading libx11-6 and libxext6 to current versions broke keys on my ipaq. |
| 11:23.50 | koen | I guess we should revert those too |
| 11:25.47 | Cwiiis | reenoo: What were the versions you were using previously? I tried a build with CVSDATE 20050207 last night and it didn't fix a thing :/ |
| 11:26.48 | reenoo | Cwiiis: 20041120, but that's probably not the answer you wanted :) |
| 11:27.30 | koen | ibx11-6_6.2.1-r2_arm.ipk libx11-dev_6.2.1-r2_arm.ipk libxext6_0.0cvs20050222-r1_arm.ipk libxext-dev_0.0cvs20050222-r1_arm.ipk |
| 11:27.38 | koen | that are the 0.8.1 versions |
| 11:28.23 | Cwiiis | reenoo: No :) hehe - I'll give these versions a try... |
| 11:43.57 | Cwiiis | mallum: bugzilla #111 patch wouldn't work, would it? Wouldn't it need to be "${MKDIRPROG-mkdir} -p" rather than "${MKDIRPROG-mkdir -p}"? |
| 11:46.13 | mallum | Cwiiis: ignore that one, its crack |
| 11:46.41 | Cwiiis | right, k |
| 11:50.02 | Cwiiis | mallum: Assuming MAXPATHLEN is defined, all the rest look fine (just buffer overrun fixes) - I'll apply and make sure they're ok in my next build |
| 11:50.12 | mallum | Cwiiis: okey |
| 11:50.38 | mallum | Cwiiis: I just wrapped #ifndef MAXPATHLEN #define MAXPATHLEN 1024 #endif |
| 11:52.48 | Cwiiis | mallum: Good idea - Where should I put that define do you think? src/panel.h? |
| 11:53.03 | reenoo | heh. I somehow managed to segfault X on my laptop >:) |
| 11:53.12 | mallum | Cwiiis: yeah |
| 12:01.45 | Cwiiis | koen: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.13645.png - Image to add to themes gallery perhaps btw :) |
| 12:04.57 | florian_kc | Cwiiis: too late ;-) i did this some hours ago :-) |
| 12:05.37 | Cwiiis | florian_kc: hehe, I only took the screenshot a few hours ago, that's some fast work :) |
| 12:07.00 | koen | shouldn't that screenie be moved into the bg in action section? |
| 12:07.17 | Cwiiis | florian_kc: Got some nice shots of minimo too, can add to Applications if you like? |
| 12:07.45 | Cwiiis | well, already got that covered really I s'pose :) |
| 12:08.27 | koen | hmm |
| 12:08.47 | koen | I should really patch mb-panel to have big icons on bigscreen devices |
| 12:10.42 | florian_kc | koen: yes right... but wait until the gallery in the gpe directory is up and running. |
| 12:10.50 | mallum | koen: uh it already does that ... |
| 12:11.03 | koen | mallum: oe build it with small icons |
| 12:11.06 | koen | builds* |
| 12:11.25 | mallum | oh the .bb |
| 12:11.32 | florian_kc | koen: I think this is easy to fix in the bb |
| 12:11.49 | koen | I want a EXTRA_OECONF_c7x0 += "--enable-big-icons" |
| 12:11.53 | koen | and _simpad |
| 12:11.53 | florian_kc | some EXTRA_OECONF_bigscreen |
| 12:11.57 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 12:12.03 | koen | bigscreen isn't in overrides |
| 12:12.09 | florian_kc | oh |
| 12:12.18 | koen | that's the problem :) |
| 12:40.12 | reenoo | koen: might this help improve your mood? http://handhelds.org/scap/port.10096.png |
| 12:40.30 | koen | liefe! |
| 12:40.34 | koen | ehm |
| 12:40.35 | koen | life! |
| 12:42.43 | reenoo | yeah :) |
| 12:44.56 | florian_kc | hehe |
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| 12:47.32 | reenoo | it still has a few rough edges that I need to take care of before it can be released though |
| 12:48.39 | reenoo | the grid isn't bounded and grows with newborn cells |
| 12:48.48 | koen | reenoo: some one in #handhelds.org had trouble bitbaking gpe-mileage |
| 12:48.56 | koen | something about glade vs libglade |
| 12:49.58 | reenoo | maybe I got the DEPENDS wrong. I'd need an exact error message to tell |
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| 12:58.32 | reenoo | koen: fixed |
| 13:01.20 | reenoo | hmm. what theme is this? http://handhelds.org/scap/port.1313.png |
| 13:04.19 | TyggerBob | Hello all |
| 13:04.40 | reenoo | hey TyggerBob |
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| 13:09.24 | koen | hey TyggerBob |
| 13:09.46 | koen | reenoo: default theme for newer matchboxes |
| 13:10.35 | koen | (I think) |
| 13:12.22 | reenoo | koen: seems like I have to upgrade matchbox then :) |
| 13:13.06 | koen | http://handhelds.org:8080/gpe/timeline |
| 13:18.52 | TyggerBob | hey Koen |
| 13:18.53 | koen | about screenshots: I think we should use the default theme when possible |
| 13:19.13 | TyggerBob | Sorry.. just doing up some joining instructions for the students on our security testing course we're running next week. |
| 13:19.41 | Cwiiis | koen: I wanted to change the default theme in OZ to borillo, as its been in the past... Haven't gotten round to it though, will try and do that before release |
| 13:20.05 | koen | why do that? |
| 13:20.36 | koen | TyggerBob: http://www.ex-parrot.com/~chris/driftnet/ |
| 13:20.37 | Cwiiis | It's complete (for apps that dock to the panel), it doesn't use the default gtk theme, and it doesn't have window frames (so toolbar icons don't get cut off) |
| 13:20.52 | Cwiiis | I think it was the default in 3.5.1 as qwll |
| 13:20.53 | Cwiiis | *well |
| 13:21.13 | koen | Cwiiis: does that one have minimize buttons for the mixer and gpe-nmf? |
| 13:21.26 | Cwiiis | koen: Yes |
| 13:21.35 | koen | cool |
| 13:21.53 | koen | I think that should be the default for gpe in that case |
| 13:22.06 | Cwiiis | ok, I'll make the change global - that makes things easier :) |
| 13:22.38 | Cwiiis | pnum=... Controls the -p option for patches in bb, right? Having trouble getting patches to apply... |
| 13:22.58 | koen | correct |
| 13:23.38 | Cwiiis | ah, fixed, my bad |
| 13:25.23 | Cwiiis | koen: It's an xsettings thing, right? (default matchbox/gtk theme) |
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| 13:31.36 | Cwiiis | gotta love firefox and oe using so much memory Xorg crashes. |
| 13:31.43 | Cwiiis | or rather, halts :p |
| 13:31.51 | mallum | Cwiiis: Borillo is not in recent matchboxs I dont think |
| 13:32.18 | Cwiiis | mallum: It's in matchbox-wm with cvsdate 20050403... Is this a recent change? |
| 13:33.08 | mallum | Cwiiis: svndate you mean ? |
| 13:33.17 | Cwiiis | mallum: Yes, sorry :) |
| 13:33.18 | mallum | Cwiiis: it exisiting in svn but not release tarballs |
| 13:33.24 | Cwiiis | ah... |
| 13:33.29 | Cwiiis | How come? |
| 13:36.16 | Cwiiis | I thought it was quite a nice theme... hehe |
| 13:38.50 | Cwiiis | koen: heh, diet-x11 fails to build with an error in KeyBind.c :) |
| 13:39.32 | jserv2 | diet-x11 ? |
| 13:39.41 | Cwiiis | jserv2: libx11 rather |
| 13:44.29 | Cwiiis | koen: xproto needs to be reverted to release (or perhaps an earlier date, I dunno) for libx11 to build - making the change now |
| 13:46.05 | Cwiiis | well, testing first... |
| 13:49.57 | TyggerBob | koen: yeah.. driftnet is pretty cool |
| 13:50.10 | Cwiiis | I take it back, that isn't the problem... |
| 13:50.11 | TyggerBob | Is someone doing a familiar port of it? |
| 13:50.28 | Cwiiis | oh it is, but there's another now... |
| 13:50.32 | Cwiiis | ConnDis.c... |
| 13:50.47 | Cwiiis | ah, caddr_t undeclared :) |
| 13:53.07 | Cwiiis | In x11_6.2.2.bb, it runs oe_runmake explicitly setting CFLAGS to '' - I take it I'd want to put -D_GNU_SOURCE in there, right? (and not in a seperate declaration outside of do_compile) |
| 13:53.49 | mallum | Cwiiis: its the x11.pc file that is causing problems |
| 13:54.12 | mallum | Cwiiis: it sets -DXOPEN_SOURCE which causes problems with anything using the x11.pc file ( eg mb ) |
| 13:56.25 | Cwiiis | mallum: It's just a case of adding -D_GNU_SOURCE to CFLAGS to fix, right? |
| 14:01.13 | mallum | Cwiiis: removing -DXOPEN_SOURCE from x11.pc would likely fix it |
| 14:02.17 | Cwiiis | mallum: the gnu-source thing fixed it anyway :) Hehe |
| 14:02.45 | koen | TyggerBob: driftnet is still gtk1.2 |
| 14:11.51 | koen | and duke nukem of course |
| 14:12.45 | TyggerBob | I want a Myst port |
| 14:14.00 | Cwiiis | Blood was so much better than Shadow Warrior :) |
| 14:23.44 | mallum | Cwiiis: it may brake other stuff though |
| 14:40.01 | Cwiiis | mallum: All those patches from bugs 109-116 seem fine btw (as well as the one I e-mailed to you), except for the one you said was crack, 110 (which is duped with 111) and 114, which is sound, but doesn't apply (I haven't checked why yet) - I've written an extra patch that declared MAXPATHLEN in libmatchbox, but that's it - It all builds ok, giong to test soon |
| 14:41.42 | mallum | Cwiiis: rock, thanks |
| 14:42.02 | mallum | Cwiiis: if you can generate a combined patch from what you've changed that would rock |
| 14:43.23 | Cwiiis | mallum: Can do - I'll fix that 114 while I'm at it as well |
| 14:44.11 | Cwiiis | mallum: Ah, do you mind 3 seperate patches actually? (for libmatchbox, matchbox-panel and matchbox-desktop) |
| 14:46.13 | mallum | Cwiiis: sure, thats fine |
| 14:46.19 | mallum | Cwiiis: what is libmatchboix one ? |
| 14:46.42 | Cwiiis | mallum: define MAXPATHLEN (it gets referenced so I couldn't just put it in panel.h) |
| 14:46.58 | Cwiiis | perhaps that should go in the configure... |
| 14:48.18 | Cwiiis | Not knowing much about autotools doesn't help though :) |
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| 15:05.50 | jsmanrique | hi! |
| 15:08.27 | mallum | Cwiiis: hmmm |
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| 17:16.55 | florian_kc | bbl |
| 17:24.41 | mallum | Cwiiis: I get a couple of warning during build but the patch appears to work :) |
| 17:25.26 | Cwiiis | mallum: My wireless patch? What are the warnings, I'll fix them before I send the big patch :) (sorry it's taking so long, waiting for things to build from scratch again...) |
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| 17:34.37 | mallum | Cwiiis: np I can fix |
| 17:35.03 | Cwiiis | mallum: okidokes - shall I not include my wireless patch with the other ones? |
| 17:36.40 | mallum | Cwiiis: no its fine without |
| 17:36.55 | mallum | Cwiiis: did you ever see it return anything other than 100% for signal stength ? |
| 17:37.40 | Cwiiis | mallum: Yeah, got 30% here (using my neighbours wireless that is only just about reachable from here :)) |
| 17:37.52 | Cwiiis | I wouldn't be surprised if I made a cast wrong somewhere though |
| 17:38.25 | mallum | yeah the warning are just casts from |
| 17:38.34 | mallum | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:38.35 | mallum | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:40.04 | Cwiiis | What's the error with those...? NULL not being a char *? |
| 17:40.49 | mallum | yeah thats what I thought at first |
| 17:41.47 | Cwiiis | Not the case I take it? |
| 17:44.11 | mallum | Cwiiis: no |
| 17:44.15 | mallum | Cwiiis: odd |
| 17:44.25 | mallum | Cwiiis: did you nuke the translations too ? |
| 17:44.33 | Cwiiis | ah... I'll take a look at the code when it gets to building |
| 17:44.33 | mallum | ( its not a problem ) |
| 17:44.46 | Cwiiis | mallum: I can't remember I'm afraid :/ Let me look at the patch |
| 17:45.58 | Cwiiis | mallum: Ah yes, yes I have... I didn't notice that, sorry |
| 17:46.29 | Cwiiis | Actually, I kind of have, kind of haven't :p hehe |
| 17:47.00 | Cwiiis | Seems the bit that was translated before was commented out anyway, so I've not broken anything, but for some reason I removed the commented out section |
| 17:47.07 | Cwiiis | I guess because it didn't make any sense in the context of the patch |
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| 17:57.31 | mallum | Cwiiis: okey committing |
| 17:58.26 | Cwiiis | mallum: Cool :) Will have those patches for you in a few hours, when this damn thing gets to building matchbox... Alternatively I can put them all in a tarball for you (they apply in any order), but that's a bit less convenient :p hehe |
| 18:00.33 | mallum | tar ball is fine |
| 18:00.40 | mallum | I gotta get the dinner on now :/ |
| 18:01.25 | Cwiiis | okidokes - Actually, I do have all the source handy, I should be able to combine them... Would just be much easier to get OE to do it for me :p hehe - I'll see what I can do :) |
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| 18:11.46 | luc | good evening |
| 18:13.01 | Cwiiis | evening luc |
| 18:13.14 | Cwiiis | mallum: Made a big patch that should apply to trunk :) Will e-mail |
| 18:13.28 | luc | hi Cwiiis |
| 18:14.09 | luc | Cwiiis: I heard you did write the single-click.patch over gtk? |
| 18:14.17 | Cwiiis | luc: Yes, I do apologise :p hehe |
| 18:14.21 | Daan | hey, does someone know how i can make a (new) module? |
| 18:14.26 | Daan | i already have the kernel compiled |
| 18:14.32 | Daan | but want to compile the module... |
| 18:14.51 | Daan | and it's not in .config :) |
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| 18:15.05 | luc | Cwiiis: ok, no problem. Could it be removed from oe, at least the TreeView part? |
| 18:15.13 | florian | re |
| 18:15.19 | luc | hey florian! |
| 18:15.47 | Daan | make==compile ;) |
| 18:15.54 | florian | luc: hi! |
| 18:17.23 | luc | florian, I still have some paper work to do this week :( the federation did loose many documents... hoppefully archive.org exists! |
| 18:17.56 | Cwiiis | luc: The TreeView part should be removed, yes - I'll rewrite it later today (or at least, take out the TreeView part) |
| 18:18.50 | luc | Cwiiis: great! |
| 18:18.57 | Cwiiis | now, I gotta go tidy the garden... bbl |
| 18:19.00 | florian | luc: uh, that sounds nasty... |
| 18:19.31 | florian | Where is this TreeView which is suppued to be removed? |
| 18:20.12 | luc | single-click.patch in oe, gtk package |
| 18:20.13 | florian | s/suppued/supposed |
| 18:20.34 | florian | ah yes, that's important to fix gpe-package |
| 18:21.02 | ReleaseX | could someone help me out getting my wireless card working |
| 18:21.03 | luc | New Kinyarwanda PO file for `gpe-go' |
| 18:21.04 | luc | :) |
| 18:21.35 | luc | luc is going to learn something tonight. Someone knows who speaks Kinyarwanda? |
| 18:21.40 | florian | yeah, i'm flooded with translations! |
| 18:22.14 | luc | good good |
| 18:22.18 | florian | luc: I guess it is missing in your collection, right? ;-) |
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| 18:22.32 | florian | hey pb_ |
| 18:22.39 | pb_ | florian: good evening |
| 18:22.41 | luc | florian: indeed! I should mail the translator ;) |
| 18:22.45 | luc | hey pb_ |
| 18:22.47 | florian | *g* |
| 18:22.48 | pb_ | hi luc |
| 18:23.26 | luc | so so we should automatize the things to handle all this new translations |
| 18:23.36 | pb_ | yeah, we should |
| 18:23.42 | pb_ | I didn't get time to do anything about that yet. |
| 18:23.55 | pb_ | maybe I will have a chance to work on it when I am in Australia. |
| 18:24.01 | florian | heh |
| 18:24.08 | luc | florian: Rwanda, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinyarwanda_language |
| 18:24.24 | luc | pb_ excellent! |
| 18:24.53 | pb_ | florian: excellent |
| 18:25.12 | luc | pb_ I contacted TP to ask for some modifications on there robot, but they are a bit slow to answer |
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| 18:25.31 | luc | pb_: I am affraid there is no maintainer on that robot from years... |
| 18:25.48 | luc | s/there/their/ |
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| 18:26.32 | heckpiet | hi |
| 18:26.57 | florian | hi heckpiet |
| 18:27.57 | pb_ | luc: yah, I fear you may be right |
| 18:28.15 | heckpiet | Hi Flo |
| 18:28.18 | heckpiet | wie geht es dir den ? |
| 18:28.36 | heckpiet | ich bin mal wieder an meinen ipaq am installieren |
| 18:28.55 | heckpiet | ich mache ja da schon wie lange herum wie du weisst .... |
| 18:30.06 | florian | heckpiet: ouch ja, nicht perfekt aber ganz gut :) Hab viel zu tun... aber lass uns hier nach englisch wechseln oder einen chat aufmachen. |
| 18:30.27 | luc | German lesson tonight ;) |
| 18:30.47 | florian | uh no :-/ |
| 18:32.19 | heckpiet | florian prismstumbler ..... new version ? |
| 18:32.38 | heckpiet | or nor more time for that prpject |
| 18:32.51 | florian | heckpiet: not at the moment... |
| 18:33.03 | florian | brb, phone |
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| 18:54.58 | pb_ | wow, the kinyarwanda translators have been busy |
| 18:58.35 | mallum | Cwiiis: I think you forgot the attachment |
| 18:59.41 | luc | pb_: the translations are quite poor... |
| 18:59.49 | luc | msgid "Cannot create %s: %s. Exit." |
| 19:00.00 | luc | msgstr "Kurema" |
| 19:00.13 | pb_ | doh |
| 19:00.14 | ReleaseX | i have a question concerning my wireless card |
| 19:00.17 | luc | a lot like that |
| 19:00.18 | pb_ | that is indeed quite poor |
| 19:00.20 | pb_ | oh well |
| 19:00.41 | luc | (though there is a huge list of people who did participate...) |
| 19:01.21 | luc | we should contact them at some point, also check out the other translations |
| 19:02.08 | pb_ | yeah |
| 19:02.15 | ReleaseX | when i plug it in it is correctly recognized as an Intel PRO/Wireless 2011 LAN PC Card, but no driver is assigned, i have read that it is a prism II card, so I should use the spectrum_cs driver, but that one does not seem to work, but if I try using the hostap_cs driver, it is assigned but i still get a state of not ready |
| 19:03.39 | luc | pb_: or get merged with GNOME ;) |
| 19:03.58 | pb_ | heh, right, or that |
| 19:04.02 | Philippe | evening people |
| 19:04.11 | pb_ | hi Philippe |
| 19:10.36 | Cwiiis | mallum: Bugger, sorry - will send again |
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| 19:12.57 | Cwiiis | mallum: Sent |
| 19:14.22 | florian | hmm.. translations for three different versions of gpe-conf?! |
| 19:14.42 | florian | s/three/four |
| 19:16.00 | Cwiiis | does multisync still sync with gpe ok, does anyone know? |
| 19:16.10 | florian | ReleaseX: still the same problem? that prism II should be happy with both orinoco_cs and hostap_cs. |
| 19:16.51 | ReleaseX | florian, i just can't seem to get it working |
| 19:17.19 | ReleaseX | florian, maybe i'm just not doing something i should be doing |
| 19:17.46 | florian | ReleaseX: there is a mailinglist for the hostap driver, it might be a good idea to ask about this. |
| 19:18.12 | florian | ReleaseX: i don't think it is easy to do something wrong in this context. |
| 19:18.18 | ReleaseX | florian, why would the orinoco_cs not work with it |
| 19:18.58 | florian | ReleaseX: orinoco_cs shoulld be fine. |
| 19:19.54 | ReleaseX | florian, when i try and assign it to the card, it doesn't work |
| 19:21.59 | heckpiet | florian: i'have installation problems |
| 19:22.13 | heckpiet | just frawing the line in my telnet session with .....................................................Offset = 00E3B8A8 |
| 19:23.52 | florian | heckpiet: eh... telnet or terminal? reset the device... |
| 19:27.50 | heckpiet | florian: okay... |
| 19:27.54 | heckpiet | telnet |
| 19:27.59 | heckpiet | hyperterm |
| 19:28.04 | heckpiet | windows hyperterm |
| 19:28.26 | heckpiet | florian: reset |
| 19:28.31 | florian | heckpiet: oh... you need to use a serial connection 115000 baud, 8, n, 1 |
| 19:28.37 | heckpiet | i have there |
| 19:28.39 | heckpiet | these |
| 19:28.53 | heckpiet | the device is connect |
| 19:29.04 | heckpiet | i see there lines on my hyperterm |
| 19:29.09 | heckpiet | these |
| 19:29.34 | heckpiet | so reset ? |
| 19:30.44 | florian | heckpiet: yep... if the serial settings are corrct you shoug get some more output. |
| 19:31.50 | heckpiet | have i reset the connection or the ipaq ? |
| 19:33.05 | florian | heckpiet: the ipaq |
| 19:33.10 | heckpiet | okay |
| 19:35.36 | heckpiet | nothing happed ... |
| 19:35.50 | heckpiet | i reinstall the image |
| 19:42.00 | florian | hmm... _nothing_? |
| 19:42.17 | florian | is the battery flat? |
| 19:49.24 | florian | brb |
| 19:50.35 | mallum | Cwiiis: thanks :) |
| 19:51.27 | Cwiiis | mallum: np :) |
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| 20:00.03 | Cwiiis | mallum: Think you'll make a release of any mb components before tomorrow? (for oz 3.5.3 release) Would be nice to have the wireless applet patch and working composite |
| 20:03.20 | ReleaseX | what's a good wireless card to work with gpe? |
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| 20:04.50 | Cwiiis | ReleaseX: Any wireless card that's supported well by Linux |
| 20:05.17 | Cwiiis | Something prism-chipset based is always good |
| 20:05.43 | reenoo | s/Any/Any non-cardbus/ |
| 20:05.49 | ReleaseX | i wish i could get mine working |
| 20:08.21 | rob_w | ReleaseX: whats the problem ? |
| 20:10.19 | ReleaseX | rob_w, i have an Intel PRO/Wireless 2011 LAN PC Card, i thought i should be using the spectrum_cs driver, but it won't work |
| 20:11.08 | ReleaseX | rob_w, when I assign the hostap_cs driver which i have been told would work, it seems to work, but the status is busy |
| 20:12.04 | rob_w | but does hostap in first place seem to work? |
| 20:12.50 | Cwiiis | mallum: Could I convince you to start putting borillo back in the release tarballs of matchbox? It's a nice, fully-working theme |
| 20:12.52 | reenoo | ReleaseX: PC Card wifi cards aren't supported by the iPAQ hardware |
| 20:13.23 | reenoo | ReleaseX: if the card is really 32 bit it cannot work |
| 20:13.27 | Cwiiis | (although as far as I was aware, it was still in the release, but in case you're considering taking it out :)) |
| 20:16.31 | ReleaseX | ok, cause i was under the impression that they worked |
| 20:18.44 | ReleaseX | reenoo, what does that mean, pc card wifi cards aren't supported by the ipaq hardware |
| 20:19.17 | reenoo | that, er, pc card wifi cards aren't supported by the ipaq hardware? |
| 20:19.33 | reenoo | what part of that do you fail to understand? |
| 20:20.13 | ReleaseX | well this card works with pocket pc 2002 |
| 20:21.01 | reenoo | that would indicate that it's a pcmcia card |
| 20:21.37 | ReleaseX | ok, so it should work with familiar correct? |
| 20:21.54 | mallum | Cwiiis: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 20:22.11 | reenoo | ReleaseX: I don't know |
| 20:23.13 | ReleaseX | reenoo, so what are you trying to tell me then |
| 20:24.16 | reenoo | ReleaseX: you said the card was a pc card. I responded to that. |
| 20:25.19 | ReleaseX | reenoo, oh, that's just what cardctl ident tells me, so i was assuming that it should work fine |
| 20:28.05 | Cwiiis | mallum: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.9124.png / http://handhelds.org/~florian/albums/Applications/port_11156.png - Look how nice it looks :) |
| 20:32.39 | reenoo | ReleaseX: hmm. right. I guess some vendors used the term "PC Card" also for pcmcia cards. it comes down to the question whether the interface is 16bit (PCMCIA) or 32bit (cardbus/pc card). 32bit cards aren't supported. and that's about all I wanted to let you know. I don't know the particular card |
| 20:33.39 | ReleaseX | reenoo, ok, i just wish i could get this working |
| 20:33.39 | mallum | Cwiiis: that is blondie theme ( still there ) |
| 20:33.54 | Cwiiis | mallum: Oh! Everything ok then :) Sorry, getting mixed up... |
| 20:34.03 | Cwiiis | mallum: What's the borillo theme? hehe |
| 20:34.12 | mallum | Cwiiis: big blue one |
| 20:34.22 | mallum | Cwiiis: blondie is most comprehensive theme |
| 20:34.29 | Cwiiis | ah, think I've seen it... Not been in matchbox for a while :) hehe |
| 20:34.33 | ReleaseX | reenoo, other that that, everthing else is working great |
| 20:34.35 | Cwiiis | mallum: Will be making blondie the default for gpe |
| 20:40.18 | unknown26 | What is the latest version of gpe-nmf that works? |
| 20:43.08 | reenoo | unknown26: whatever is current (0.20?) should work fine |
| 20:43.27 | unknown26 | reenoo: Is this in the unstable feed? |
| 20:43.50 | reenoo | unknown26: I think so |
| 20:43.59 | unknown26 | reenoo: Thanks |
| 20:46.54 | reenoo | ReleaseX: have you checked this? http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Linux.Wireless.drivers.802.11b.html |
| 20:47.38 | mallum | Cwiiis: urg |
| 20:47.54 | mallum | Cwiiis: does GPE even have a default ? |
| 20:48.04 | ReleaseX | reenoo, yeah, i've been there, no help |
| 20:48.20 | unknown26 | I hope gpe-nmf gets put back in the deafult images... |
| 20:49.29 | reenoo | ReleaseX: so, you've tried the drivers suggested on that site? |
| 20:51.29 | Cwiiis | mallum: Nope, not at the moment (well, it defaults at the moment to the 'Default' matchbox theme with the Angelistic gtk theme, a combination which is subsequently impossible to select :p) |
| 20:51.46 | ReleaseX | reenoo, yes |
| 20:52.32 | mallum | Cwiiis: please dont patch the mb package to make blondie the default |
| 20:52.41 | Cwiiis | mallum: Oh, I wouldn't patch mb, no |
| 20:53.07 | Cwiiis | mallum: If I can't do it by adding or changing a gpe config file, I won't bother (yet) |
| 20:53.18 | mallum | Cwiiis: the default is nice and plain for exactly that reason |
| 20:53.21 | reenoo | ReleaseX: dunno then |
| 20:53.31 | mallum | Cwiiis: its the default ;) goes with gtk default theme etc |
| 20:53.56 | reenoo | Cwiiis: what's wrong with the matchbox default theme anyway? |
| 20:54.34 | Cwiiis | reenoo: Nothing at all - I suggested making blondie the default for oz3.5.3 and florian, I think (and/or koen?) suggested making it the default for gpe instead |
| 20:55.06 | Cwiiis | mallum: At the moment, the theme is getting set as 'Angelistic' by default, which results in that gtk theme being selected and the default matchbox theme being selected... I should certainly fix that at least |
| 20:55.13 | reenoo | Cwiiis: well, for what reason do you want to do that? |
| 20:56.02 | Cwiiis | reenoo: blondie was the default in 3.5.1, I think |
| 20:56.04 | mallum | Cwiiis: yeah but thats cos GPE is broken in terms of themes |
| 20:57.03 | mallum | Cwiiis: the default is very simple - its lightweight ( 1 png file ) and should look good on any display type |
| 20:57.25 | mallum | Cwiiis: blondie for example is crap on 640x480 displays |
| 20:57.34 | Cwiiis | mallum: Fair enough, in which case, the default theme should be set to 'Default' :) |
| 20:57.34 | mallum | Cwiiis: also it uses bucket loads of pngs |
| 20:58.31 | reenoo | Cwiiis: I'd prefer that :) |
| 20:58.52 | Cwiiis | ok, in which case, if it's possible without being too intrusive, I'll change the default theme to 'Default' :) hehe |
| 20:59.50 | mallum | Cwiiis: gpe needs to set up a gtk2 link thingy in /usr/share/themes/Default/gtk... |
| 21:00.11 | Cwiiis | mallum: 'Default' is a gtk theme as well though (the default one) |
| 21:01.45 | reenoo | mallum: does the gtk theme that comes with the mb default theme do similar changes to those of the Angelistic one? otherwise we'd have to check that apps like gpe-calendar display ok with it |
| 21:03.57 | Cwiiis | koen|welding: Seems rxvt-unicode 5.3 doesn't build with these older X libraries... trying older versions |
| 21:08.06 | Cwiiis | koen: Ah, 5.x need xwc.patch I think... |
| 21:08.43 | florian | re |
| 21:13.42 | koen | hey Cwiiis & florian |
| 21:14.01 | Cwiiis | Hey koen - Updated xwc.patch for rxvt-unicode 5.3, just testing it still builds |
| 21:15.01 | ReleaseX | reenoo, ok, it looks like it is the spectrum24_cs driver I need |
| 21:15.14 | ReleaseX | reenoo, or spectrum24t_cs |
| 21:18.54 | Cwiiis | koen: pushed |
| 21:24.26 | koen | ok |
| 21:25.14 | luc__ | koen: nl just played against my home towm: 1-1 |
| 21:25.41 | luc__ | s/towm/town/ |
| 21:25.48 | luc__ | ;) |
| 21:26.15 | koen | yeah |
| 21:26.33 | koen | mostly the big ego of dutch sports people inhibits them from winning stuff |
| 21:27.00 | luc__ | meaning? |
| 21:27.14 | koen | anything teamrelated will blow up |
| 21:27.48 | luc__ | ah... well let's see |
| 21:27.54 | luc__ | good night all. |
| 21:27.59 | koen | 'night luc__ |
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| 21:32.43 | unknown26 | Does anyone know the port used by gpe-beam, as in /dev/something? |
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| 21:35.51 | jsmanrique | hi! |
| 21:36.16 | koen | hey jsmanrique |
| 21:36.16 | florian | unknown26: iirc it is a network device, usually irda0 |
| 21:36.21 | florian | jsmanrique: hi |
| 21:37.26 | unknown26 | florian: Ok, I will tinker with kbdd then |
| 21:37.49 | jsmanrique | how goes everything? |
| 21:38.52 | florian | unknown26: ah wait... thats a different topic then. the ir port is attached to a common uart port... check the serial interfaces then. |
| 21:42.01 | koen | florian: could you also update the main website to point to the right gallery? |
| 21:43.00 | florian | koen: yes... we have a single issue remining, i hope jamey is able to fix this today. then we have a properly working new gallery. |
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| 21:44.56 | koen | hey p0m |
| 21:47.34 | unknown26 | florian: So in theory I should see out put from a /dev/tts/* when tapping on my keyboard? |
| 21:48.10 | florian | unknown26: yes i think so |
| 21:48.44 | koen | unknown26: http://handhelds.org/~paule/files/sertest.tar.gz might be usefull too |
| 21:48.54 | koen | poke bluelightning in #handhelds.org about it |
| 21:49.31 | unknown26 | koen: Yeah I was talking to him about this the other day and neither of us can figure it out :-/ |
| 21:50.32 | unknown26 | Hmm, it's definitly /dev/tts/2 but I recieve to out put from it |
| 21:52.10 | p0m | Hey koen. |
| 21:54.23 | unknown26 | Sucess! |
| 21:54.38 | unknown26 | Any hints at what gpe-beam does to the port to recieve things? |
| 21:55.18 | florian | unknown26: gpe-beam uses obex via openobex library. |
| 21:55.48 | koen | 'night all |
| 21:55.49 | unknown26 | florian: I guess this has to be added to kbdd |
| 21:55.51 | unknown26 | night koen |
| 21:57.03 | florian | unknown26: Is there any keyboard using _obex_?! |
| 21:57.23 | florian | unknown26: or do you talk about your keyboard? |
| 21:57.39 | unknown26 | florian: I'm not sure what your asking |
| 21:58.10 | florian | unknown26: What do you think needs to be added to kbdd? |
| 21:58.26 | unknown26 | florian: I did a cat /dev/tts/2 and then "Turn IR On" in the gpe-beam menu and got output |
| 21:58.39 | unknown26 | I guess it could be alot of things |
| 21:59.56 | florian | unknown26: ah okay, i thin kbdd knows to turn on ir... at least i hope so. so adding the keyboard should be only a matter of a correct mapping. |
| 22:00.09 | p0m | florian: It does, and obex. |
| 22:00.27 | florian | p0m: very good :-) |
| 22:00.46 | florian | maybe i should play with one of nilsf's keyboards :-) |
| 22:04.59 | reenoo | 'night all |
| 22:05.28 | florian | reenoo|zZzZ: good night |
| 22:07.21 | Cwiiis | btw, has anyone noticed that hold-right-click doesn't work in single-line text boxes anymore? |
| 22:09.05 | florian | uh |
| 22:10.56 | p0m | The only thing I've noticed is that my power and action buttons don't work :) |
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| 22:11.30 | Cwiiis | p0m: *Hopefully* fixed :s... |
| 22:11.53 | p0m | So they'll hopefully work in the next snapshot? |
| 22:12.20 | florian | maybe... that's a really nasty issue. |
| 22:12.27 | Cwiiis | p0m: Hopefully... Will know in about 30 minutes probably... |
| 22:12.36 | p0m | Cool. |
| 22:12.47 | Philippe | The control panel did not seem to start on my Ipaq either... |
| 22:13.02 | pb_ | You might be missing gpe-appmgr or something. |
| 22:13.04 | Cwiiis | Requires gpe-appmgr, the shortcut is packaged wrongly |
| 22:13.13 | p0m | Ugh. |
| 22:13.23 | p0m | I misread that. |
| 22:13.36 | p0m | I thought you said that you need gpe-appmgr for the buttons lol. |
| 22:14.05 | p0m | You should probably strip out the "Control Panel" shortcut on gpe-sectest then. |
| 22:14.28 | p0m | One of the first things I did to mine :) |
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| 22:19.17 | Philippe | Aha... I'll check that... |
| 22:31.01 | Philippe | goodnight! I am off to sleep. |
| 22:31.58 | Cwiiis | night Philippe |
| 22:39.20 | Cwiiis | flashing my new built gpe-image, fingers crossed the shortcut keys work... |
| 22:43.05 | Cwiiis | They work! :D |
| 22:43.20 | Cwiiis | that's a relief :) |
| 22:43.28 | Cwiiis | p0m: Shortcuts will indeed work in the next snapshot :) |
| 22:47.31 | p0m | Yay. |
| 22:52.11 | florian | good night |
| 22:53.06 | p0m | Night florian. |
| 22:57.52 | p0m | Hmm. |
| 22:57.58 | p0m | That email is still in limbo. |
| 23:05.56 | Cwiiis | CIA-4 cwiiis * r1.3176 openembedded/packages/gpe-session-scripts/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Change default gpe settings - notably, the theme to one that exists ('Default' |
| 23:08.02 | pb_ | Did you address Rene's concern about that? |
| 23:09.16 | Cwiiis | Yeah, I've just changed the default theme so it sets it to the default, like mallum/reenoo wanted - Previously, it was setting it to one that didn't exist, which coincidentally gets you the default matchbox theme |
| 23:09.53 | pb_ | <reenoo> mallum: does the gtk theme that comes with the mb default theme do similar changes to those of the Angelistic one? otherwise we'd have to check that apps like gpe-calendar display ok with it |
| 23:09.58 | pb_ | That's the concern I was thinking of. |
| 23:10.33 | pb_ | If you've just changed the GTK theme from Angelistic to Default, without taking any other steps, those programs are probably going to break. |
| 23:10.43 | Cwiiis | pb_: Which programs? |
| 23:10.59 | Cwiiis | I checked, things seemed ok - I'll see if I can get something to break though |
| 23:11.03 | pb_ | gpe-calendar, gpe-contacts, gpe-todo, probably others. |
| 23:11.13 | Cwiiis | When you say break, break how? |
| 23:11.23 | pb_ | Not fit on the screen anymore. |
| 23:11.51 | pb_ | In particular, I think the "new event" dialog in gpe-calendar becomes far too wide. |
| 23:11.59 | Cwiiis | They fit on the screen ok here |
| 23:12.06 | Cwiiis | (just checked that particular dialog as well) |
| 23:12.13 | Cwiiis | (collie, 240x320) |
| 23:12.25 | pb_ | Okay, fine. |
| 23:12.31 | Cwiiis | :) |
| 23:12.31 | pb_ | Can you make a screenshot to confirm that? |
| 23:13.15 | Cwiiis | Sure :) |
| 23:16.46 | pb_ | Thanks |
| 23:18.06 | Cwiiis | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.26862.png - The Priority drop-down goes a little off the edge... |
| 23:18.26 | Cwiiis | my calendar scap didn't get through, will take that again... |
| 23:19.14 | pb_ | yeah, that todo one looks fine. |
| 23:19.27 | pb_ | I think the "Priority:" label used to just be "Pri:", but it must have gotten changed. |
| 23:21.01 | Cwiiis | pb_: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.27219.png |
| 23:21.27 | pb_ | great |
| 23:22.22 | Cwiiis | ah, Escape should be bound to close on collie, will do that... |
| 23:23.04 | pb_ | oh, now I remember. the important bits of the Angelistic theme got pulled out into /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc a few months ago, specifically so that they would work with all themes. |
| 23:23.04 | pb_ | heh |
| 23:23.17 | pb_ | so, yeah, changing it to Default is fine. |
| 23:23.21 | Cwiiis | :) |
| 23:23.56 | pb_ | night all |
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