| 00:03.58 | florian | hi GeeSeCillo |
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| 06:59.52 | Stolichnaya | hi, anyone familiar with familiar's bootloader? |
| 07:00.03 | p0m | In what way? |
| 07:00.07 | Stolichnaya | i'm having problems flashing |
| 07:00.21 | Stolichnaya | i get an error: erease_flash unlock status > 0xd000d0 |
| 07:00.36 | Stolichnaya | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:00.41 | Stolichnaya | program_flash cleanup_unlock status-> 0xd000d0 |
| 07:00.42 | Stolichnaya | etc.... |
| 07:01.02 | Stolichnaya | does this mean i better not switch off my iPAQ now? |
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| 08:22.43 | koen | good morning all |
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| 08:33.56 | luc | morning |
| 08:37.36 | koen | hey luc |
| 08:42.09 | luc | hey koen! |
| 08:48.46 | luc | koen: "origianlly 100km because the french use 400 degrees in one circle" |
| 08:48.52 | luc | really ? :) |
| 08:52.31 | koen | yes indeed, crazy French people ;) |
| 08:52.52 | koen | also having their 0 meridian in Paris |
| 08:54.27 | luc | koen: 360 degrees = 400 grades = 2pi radians |
| 08:54.39 | luc | that's another unit |
| 08:54.41 | koen | ah yes |
| 08:55.09 | koen | we call it "graden", "gradienten" and "radialen" |
| 08:55.23 | Philippe | still crazy french applies |
| 08:55.26 | koen | wasn't sure on the right translation for gradienten |
| 08:55.53 | luc | :) |
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| 10:00.23 | reenoo | morning |
| 10:00.29 | koen | hey reenoo |
| 10:00.41 | reenoo | hi koen |
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| 10:45.28 | koen | hey pb_ |
| 10:45.58 | luc | hi pb_ |
| 10:46.09 | pb_ | morning all |
| 10:47.16 | Philippe | hello pb_ , and all the rest of you. |
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| 10:51.14 | luc | what is gpe-dataconf pacakge? |
| 10:51.38 | luc | and gpe-db2? |
| 10:52.31 | pb_ | gpe-dataconf appears to be some kind of florianware. |
| 10:52.46 | pb_ | but it doesn't look like he has touched it for two years. |
| 10:53.02 | pb_ | I think gpe-db2 was intended to be a generic database frontend. |
| 10:53.27 | luc | florianware? is that free? :) |
| 10:53.39 | luc | I am checking the remaining render.h... |
| 10:54.27 | pb_ | ah, cool |
| 10:55.08 | luc | not much left now, besides the florianwares |
| 10:55.24 | luc | gpe-ownerinfo1 is obsolet, isn't it? |
| 10:59.16 | pb_ | I think so. |
| 11:00.46 | reenoo | hey pb_, luc, Philippe |
| 11:00.51 | pb_ | hi reenoo |
| 11:00.59 | Philippe | hello reenoo |
| 11:01.03 | luc | hey reenoo |
| 11:02.23 | reenoo | pb_: happen to know if ipkg implements all of the .deb control file semantics? versioned Recommends: in particular? |
| 11:02.38 | pb_ | no idea |
| 11:03.27 | reenoo | hmm. ok. guess I'll have to look into the sources or pester Pigi then. |
| 11:03.45 | Philippe | Is there a good resoure anywhere for creating .desktop files? |
| 11:03.51 | pigeon | pb_: yo... just saw the wallaby/xda patch you've checked into hh.org kernel26... i'm now putting together the stuff i've done so far... should i send you the patch too afterwards? |
| 11:04.04 | pb_ | pigeon: please mail it to kernel-discuss@handhelds.org |
| 11:04.18 | reenoo | Philippe: try the matchbox docs |
| 11:04.20 | pigeon | right, ok cool |
| 11:05.20 | Philippe | reenoo, ok I'll dig through that.. |
| 11:06.17 | luc | pb_ our changes to gpe-irc/main.c almost did not confict! ;) |
| 11:06.28 | pb_ | hehe |
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| 11:10.14 | Philippe | hello florian_kc |
| 11:10.28 | florian_kc | hi all |
| 11:10.36 | florian_kc | Philippe: hi |
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| 11:10.42 | koen | hey florian_kc |
| 11:11.05 | pb_ | florian_kc: good afternoon |
| 11:14.06 | florian_kc | koen: i'll change the user interface of the keyboard applet a little bit before releasing gpe-conf. |
| 11:14.35 | koen | nice, thanks |
| 11:15.18 | florian_kc | koen: and i found the issue with gpe-package: It simply doesn't show any feed except of the feeds in the config file it creates itself. need to implement handling of the existing files first. |
| 11:16.42 | koen | ah, the same problem opie-aqpkg has |
| 11:16.56 | florian_kc | doh! |
| 11:17.05 | florian_kc | Jamey answered to my mails! |
| 11:17.16 | koen | yeah |
| 11:17.32 | koen | it seems to have improved CIA messages too |
| 11:19.10 | florian_kc | is anyone here aware of a free port at hh.org? ;-) |
| 11:19.53 | koen | try a high port and see if it fails |
| 11:20.05 | florian_kc | sure :-) |
| 11:21.07 | florian_kc | koen: oh btw... i was a little bit tired for hacking last night and created an ipaq background image from one of your photos :-) |
| 11:22.08 | Daan_ | pigeon, is there a new wallaby/xda patch? |
| 11:22.27 | pigeon | Daan_: well just the one i told you about... |
| 11:22.53 | Daan_ | ah yesterday ;) |
| 11:22.57 | Daan_ | aha |
| 11:22.59 | pigeon | yeah |
| 11:23.14 | Daan_ | pb_ can you tell me how i can enable output to LCD? |
| 11:23.19 | pigeon | i realized i should probably push it back up until i get more conflicts at each cvs up i did :) |
| 11:23.27 | Daan_ | if i just uuse xda_defconfig there's no LCD output |
| 11:23.29 | pb_ | Daan: no |
| 11:23.51 | pigeon | Daan_: hmm... that's odd, the lcd should work on it... |
| 11:24.42 | Daan_ | yeah, i'm using XDAII btw |
| 11:24.49 | Daan_ | the kernel from the xda-files... works |
| 11:24.50 | pigeon | ah |
| 11:24.54 | pigeon | well |
| 11:25.11 | pigeon | xda usually means xda1 |
| 11:25.26 | pigeon | for xda2, you want the himalaya machine type |
| 11:25.47 | luc | bbl |
| 11:26.01 | Daan_ | Whahahah ;) |
| 11:26.06 | Daan_ | that can explain a lot :D |
| 11:26.09 | Daan_ | thanks ;) |
| 11:26.14 | pigeon | heh |
| 11:26.18 | Daan_ | <--- Newbie huh ;) |
| 11:26.28 | pigeon | well i'm confused too cos i know you have both xda1 and xda2 :) |
| 11:34.46 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 11:45.10 | Daan_ | yeah, but the xda is somewhere in a corner |
| 11:45.11 | Daan_ | ;) |
| 11:45.18 | Daan_ | it's kinda screwed |
| 11:47.09 | Daan_ | pb,pigeon: is this error familiar with you? arch/arm/mach-pxa/himalaya/himalaya.c:247: error: `H3900_ASIC3_VIRT' undeclared here (not in a function) |
| 11:48.47 | florian_kc | hrm.. handhelds.org seems to have a pretty tight firewall :-/ |
| 11:57.52 | pb_ | Daan: sounds like the himalaya code is busted. |
| 11:57.58 | pb_ | it shouldn't be referring to H3900_ASIC_VIRT. |
| 11:58.02 | pb_ | florian_kc: yeah, it does |
| 12:00.05 | florian_kc | pb_: do you know an open port? |
| 12:01.43 | pb_ | florian_kc: sorry, no idea |
| 12:03.34 | florian_kc | koen: http://handhelds.org/~florian/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=themes-and-art&id=port_23167 |
| 12:05.18 | koen | I saw that :) |
| 12:05.29 | koen | I'm 240x320-izing some more pics |
| 12:06.28 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 12:06.48 | florian_kc | maybe we should add a backgrounds album there :-) |
| 12:07.26 | koen | I was thinking about expanding the themes wiki and/or adding an artwork section to the gpe website |
| 12:09.01 | florian_kc | That would be nice too, but just adding an album with only backgrounds is easier to do in a short time. |
| 12:10.19 | koen | make it a subalbum under T&A? |
| 12:10.52 | Cwiiis | Does anyone know what xsettings carry font sizes and themes and such? It would be nice to change the default font sizes and themes for OZ |
| 12:11.59 | florian_kc | Maybe a simple toplevel album... |
| 12:12.21 | florian_kc | ah |
| 12:13.49 | florian_kc | koen: in this context we could have two different things: a backgrounds subalbum under T&A to show backgrounds in use and a toplevel album to collect the backgrounds itself. |
| 12:14.15 | koen | that would be a good solution |
| 12:19.13 | Daan_ | pb_: hmmmmm can i just delete that line |
| 12:19.29 | Daan_ | it's in: static struct map_desc himalaya_io_desc[] __initdata = { |
| 12:19.43 | Daan_ | static memory bank 3 CS#3 |
| 12:22.38 | pb_ | worth a go |
| 12:22.43 | pb_ | it might just be a historical relic. |
| 12:27.29 | Daan_ | ahhh |
| 12:27.30 | Daan_ | ;) |
| 12:31.55 | koen | bleh |
| 12:31.57 | koen | apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-control |
| 12:32.07 | koen | that was too easy |
| 12:34.41 | reenoo | :q |
| 12:34.44 | reenoo | err |
| 12:36.05 | reenoo | looks like my laptop's "pointing device" is drifting again :/ |
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| 12:40.28 | koen | hey rob_w-pda |
| 12:40.47 | Daan_ | does someone know where ipaq_asic3_set_gpio_out_a should be defined? is it a standard function for all pda's? |
| 12:43.02 | pb_ | it's in asic3_base.c |
| 12:43.02 | pb_ | and no |
| 12:45.24 | Daan_ | hmm |
| 12:45.51 | rob_w-pda | hi koen |
| 12:51.36 | florian_kc | reenoo: ibm? |
| 12:56.39 | reenoo | florian_kc: yup |
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| 13:00.21 | koen | hey spizkapa |
| 13:00.31 | spizkapa | hey peops |
| 13:00.36 | florian_kc | reenoo: sounds familiar... my r31 suffers from this effect too. |
| 13:03.24 | spizkapa | quick question: are all the packages in gpe/base supposed to build cleanly for linux AND crosscompile for arm? |
| 13:06.14 | koen | the tarballs should do that |
| 13:06.18 | koen | cvs might be flaky |
| 13:07.24 | spizkapa | ok, it's just to make sure that I'm ont trying to compile for the wrong architecture ;-) |
| 13:10.29 | reenoo | </p> |
| 13:10.33 | reenoo | err |
| 13:10.45 | reenoo | ~lart IBM |
| 13:11.59 | Cwiiis | koen: What version of ipkg are you using? |
| 13:12.57 | reenoo | florian_kc: I wonder if the TrackPoint driver might improve things (http://people.clarkson.edu/~evanchsa/) |
| 13:13.24 | reenoo | florian_kc: but actually I think it's a hardware problem :( |
| 13:14.25 | florian_kc | ah cool... i'm not alone fighting render.h ;-) |
| 13:14.41 | reenoo | koen: http://www.informatik.uni-bremen.de/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rwagner/pyblosxom.cgi/computers/freejava/2.html |
| 13:15.05 | florian_kc | reenoo: No idea... i guess it is a hardware problem. I don't suffer from this on my Lifebook. |
| 13:15.09 | koen | Cwiiis: 0.99.147 in OE |
| 13:15.27 | Cwiiis | koen: That seems to have a problem creating rootfs..? |
| 13:15.38 | koen | Cwiiis: yes, but a bad one |
| 13:15.49 | koen | reenoo: very nice |
| 13:16.16 | Cwiiis | reenoo: That is nice :) |
| 13:16.28 | koen | reenoo: where did you get that mixer & nmf panel apps? |
| 13:16.41 | reenoo | koen: just wished I could host it on hh.org. the URL sucks |
| 13:16.47 | Cwiiis | koen: The problem shouldn't affect ipkg when running on the pda, should it? |
| 13:16.59 | Cwiiis | (will just set preferred-version ipkg-native) |
| 13:16.59 | reenoo | koen: I think those are just launchers |
| 13:17.05 | koen | aha |
| 13:20.10 | florian_kc | reenoo: what is the problem with handhelds.org? |
| 13:21.10 | reenoo | florian_kc: couldn't get a cgi-bin to work in ~/public_html |
| 13:29.02 | koen | reenoo: I remember france saying people had exploitable stuff in their cgi-bin and therefore he disabled it |
| 13:29.57 | spizkapa | folks, another thing |
| 13:30.29 | reenoo | koen: sure. that's ok. arguably he'd have to disable php too though... |
| 13:30.29 | spizkapa | did my last email appear on the list twice? I don't why but I can't see my own emails to gpe from home whereas I can see them from work |
| 13:31.07 | spizkapa | and this is using the same email client (TB1) and I have vhevked the settings are correct on the gpe mailing list page |
| 13:31.19 | spizkapa | checked, I mean, sorry |
| 13:34.34 | koen | spizkapa: it appeared twice |
| 13:34.53 | spizkapa | oh, I'm sorry about that, I didn't know |
| 13:35.04 | koen | no problem |
| 13:35.33 | spizkapa | I'm still having trouble getting xsettings stuff to compile |
| 13:36.12 | spizkapa | it doesn't seem to pick up the x11.pc file that I have in gpe/base/build |
| 13:37.34 | florian_kc | reenoo: i have gallery running there... |
| 13:38.04 | reenoo | florian_kc: gallery is PHP |
| 13:38.49 | koen | florian_kc: http://handhelds.org/~florian/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=readytousebackgrounds |
| 13:40.22 | reenoo | spizkapa: try setting PKG_CONFIG_PATH (see man pkg-config) |
| 13:40.57 | spizkapa | I'm reading it now... the reason why I'm asking is that other packages don't have that problem so I'm suspecting something is not being set right |
| 13:41.48 | florian_kc | reenoo: hmm right |
| 13:42.17 | Cwiiis | wow, minimo takes an insanely long amount of time to fetch... |
| 13:42.20 | florian_kc | reenoo: it might be worth asking Jamey to enable it again. |
| 13:42.50 | florian_kc | koen: cool... |
| 13:46.22 | florian_kc | Cwiiis: yep... it is fetched from mozilla cvs. |
| 13:47.27 | spizkapa | OK, I have progress. I have set my PKG_CONFIG_PATH to include /usr/local/arm/oe/arm-linux/lib/pkgconfig (which isn't mentioned in the native dev page but only in crosscompile) but then I get /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lX11 |
| 13:48.04 | Cwiiis | install libx11-dev I guess |
| 13:48.08 | spizkapa | it may good to edit the wiki page to say that PKG_CONFIG_PATH needs to be set for native development also though |
| 13:48.38 | spizkapa | I have all the dev packages fro x11 |
| 13:48.46 | spizkapa | that's where the confusion comes from |
| 13:48.53 | reenoo | pb_: versioned Recommends: work fine btw |
| 13:53.23 | reenoo | spizkapa: well. how else do you expect pkg-config to be able to find a .pc in a non-standard path? |
| 13:55.52 | spizkapa | renoo: I understand that I was being stupid, this still doesn |
| 13:56.00 | spizkapa | doesn't explain the later error |
| 13:59.06 | reenoo | spizkapa: actually I was just trying to point out that wiki pages/howtos in general often lack information that seems obvious. feel free to add that |
| 14:00.07 | spizkapa | now, once that is done, since I need to link to the X11 libraries, shouldn't they be in ld/so/conf? Am I linking against standard X libs or the ones from the arm toolchain? |
| 14:00.42 | pigeon | Daan_: hmm... well, H3900_ASIC3_VIRT is defined in 3600.h, if that helps |
| 14:01.35 | Daan_ | pigeon |
| 14:01.44 | Daan_ | i commented that line, and it goed true |
| 14:01.54 | Daan_ | it's something about memory static 3 |
| 14:02.07 | Daan_ | have another one now :S |
| 14:02.12 | Daan_ | it's a rampage |
| 14:02.30 | pigeon | hmm |
| 14:02.47 | pigeon | the only sort of active himalaya linux developer around would be noone77 |
| 14:03.00 | pigeon | who has been missing here for a while too :\ |
| 14:03.08 | pigeon | ~seen noone77 |
| 14:03.21 | ibot | noone77 <~chatzilla@reverse-82-141-52-31.dialin.kamp-dsl.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #handhelds.org, 80d 13h 49m 59s ago, saying: 'pigeon: need to sleep now, hope to meet you soon here'. |
| 14:03.24 | Daan_ | 75 days |
| 14:03.24 | Daan_ | ;) |
| 14:03.27 | Daan_ | 80 now :P |
| 14:03.59 | pigeon | but wait, now we have a new himalaya developer |
| 14:04.16 | Daan_ | haha ;) |
| 14:06.08 | reenoo | arrgh |
| 14:06.20 | reenoo | Could not open /usr/lib/ipkg/info/sablevm.list for writing: No space left on device |
| 14:06.27 | reenoo | ~stab ipkg |
| 14:06.29 | ibot | ACTION runs at ipkg with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 14:06.36 | Daan_ | hmmm :S |
| 14:07.54 | reenoo | koen: I guess it's not good if libxext6_0.0cvs20050317-r1 has been installed? |
| 14:08.06 | pigeon | nite |
| 14:08.40 | florian_kc | pigeon: gn |
| 14:08.48 | florian_kc | reenoo: eeks |
| 14:08.52 | reenoo | 'night pigeon |
| 14:09.11 | koen | 'night pigeon |
| 14:09.21 | koen | reenoo: indeed that's bad |
| 14:09.23 | reenoo | florian_kc: yeah. unfortunately ipkg has upgraded a bunch of other stuff as well |
| 14:09.52 | reenoo | koen: what do I need instead? |
| 14:09.58 | Daan_ | night pigeon |
| 14:10.08 | Daan_ | what time is it there btw pigeon? |
| 14:10.56 | koen | reenoo: iirc the 1.1 version |
| 14:11.57 | koen | hmmm |
| 14:12.04 | koen | the xext version is right |
| 14:12.35 | florian_kc | reenoo: we should ask Pigi for some hack to avoid this... |
| 14:15.14 | reenoo | 10.7M /usr/share/sablevm-classpath |
| 14:15.20 | reenoo | that explains it |
| 14:15.24 | reenoo | heh |
| 14:15.28 | florian_kc | uh |
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| 14:16.23 | reenoo | doh |
| 14:16.34 | quitte | iirc someone in here told me about a link to a script that builds a minimal xserver. can someone please give me that link again? |
| 14:17.03 | reenoo | the sablevm people changed the configure options... that stuff is ending up uncompressed in the package |
| 14:18.01 | florian_kc | hmm... i wonder if the effect can be that big on a jffs2 filesystem. |
| 14:19.01 | reenoo | s:uncompressed:in a storeonly zip/jar: |
| 14:19.37 | reenoo | actually uncompressed as separate files would be a _lot_ worse than that |
| 14:20.51 | florian_kc | ah okay... that's really true |
| 14:28.08 | koen | florian_kc: list_dir ext /mnt/ramdisk |
| 14:28.20 | koen | that puts the lists in RAM |
| 14:29.35 | reenoo | koen: the lists are in RAM already here |
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| 14:31.55 | spizkapa | oops, just managed to bork my system... I thought that adding the libs from the toolchain to ld.so.conf would be a good idea, it wasn't |
| 14:32.20 | florian_kc | koen: yes - this helps a lot, but if the filesystem is full ipkg will damage things even with this. |
| 14:32.44 | florian_kc | spizkapa: uh no, that's a bad idea... |
| 14:33.21 | spizkapa | yes, /me scrambles for the ubuntu livecd |
| 14:34.20 | spizkapa | I think it's going to be just a simple ldconfig -r /mnt/root-partition one I've got root on the box again... |
| 14:35.44 | spizkapa | the problem is that it "borrows" curses from the toolchain and then nothing runs, no shell=no linux |
| 14:40.58 | spizkapa | phew, that sorted it, good job I've borked the system many a time before |
| 14:41.43 | spizkapa | but the question remains, since I have all the x11 dev libraries, why is it complaining that it can't link to them? |
| 14:42.00 | spizkapa | I'll go connect from my own pc again, back in a mo |
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| 14:46.49 | spizkapa | hmm, same problem with libxsettings, shall I post the compilation/linking output here or on the mailing list? |
| 14:47.01 | koen | try pastebin.ca |
| 14:48.36 | spizkapa | http://pastebin.ca/8669 |
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| 14:51.27 | Daan_ | is that your post? |
| 14:51.55 | reenoo | spizkapa: are you trying to compile native binaries or are you trying to cross compile? |
| 14:52.22 | pb_ | It seems you have PKG_CONFIG_CROSS set, but you are using the native compiler. |
| 14:52.33 | spizkapa | I'm compiling on my linux box, without setting anything other than the PKG_CONFIG_PATH |
| 14:52.37 | pb_ | You need to either unset that variable, or select the cross-compiler with CC |
| 14:53.06 | spizkapa | if I undet the variable, it still fails by not finding the x11.pc file |
| 14:53.37 | pb_ | As I said to you in my email this morning, it should be using the one from the gpe/base/build directory in a native compilation. |
| 14:54.02 | pb_ | If that isn't happening, you should find out why and correct the problem. Pointing it at some other random x11.pc file is unlikely to yield good results. |
| 14:57.23 | spizkapa | OK, done it, it was me being dim (again), it was pointing to the x11.pc file from the toolchain, not from base/build |
| 14:57.33 | spizkapa | thanks for the help and the patience |
| 15:00.22 | koen | aargh, enabling glx crashes xorg |
| 15:23.37 | reenoo | koen: sablevm is ready for 0.8.2 as well now |
| 15:23.39 | reenoo | http://www.informatik.uni-bremen.de/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rwagner/pyblosxom.cgi/computers/freejava/3.html |
| 15:24.09 | koen | cool |
| 15:24.21 | koen | can those vm's run midp and cdc stuff too? |
| 15:25.42 | reenoo | the VMs would need only minor adjustments. but you'd need to implement a new or highly modified class library for that |
| 15:29.31 | jserv0 | koen: http://www.kaffe.org/screenshots_me4se.shtml # Kaffe + ME4SE can do something for MIDP 1.0 support. |
| 15:32.53 | reenoo | koen: in german, but maybe you can parse a bit of that anyway ;) http://www.sigs-datacom.de/sd/publications/pub_article_show.htm?&AID=1488&TABLE=sd_article |
| 15:35.30 | koen | I'm looking for a cdc/pp capable solution |
| 15:35.39 | koen | and I want midp for those little games :) |
| 15:47.18 | Cwiiis | reenoo: Does SableVM support swing by any chance? |
| 15:48.28 | Cwiiis | hmm, looks like it by the screenshots on their site :) |
| 15:51.01 | koen | heh |
| 15:51.03 | koen | #warning TODO: Switch to modern proc interface. |
| 15:52.46 | Cwiiis | flashing new gpe-image :) |
| 15:52.48 | florian_kc | koen: :-) |
| 15:52.54 | koen | florian_kc: would gkeyfile help with parsing /proc/asic/battery? |
| 15:53.18 | florian_kc | koen: pb_ used the word "retro" to describe this code ;-) |
| 15:53.39 | florian_kc | koen: no, but parsing this is really easy... |
| 15:54.08 | florian_kc | koen: gkeyfile is for .desktop-like files. |
| 15:54.22 | Daan_ | koen: do you know which graphics driver i can use for my XDA? :S |
| 15:54.29 | koen | no |
| 15:54.40 | reenoo | hrm. so the only button that survived this is the contacts one :/ |
| 15:54.52 | Daan_ | ok |
| 15:56.02 | Cwiiis | Is the off-centre splash screen caused by a bug in cairo? |
| 15:56.10 | koen | iirc, yes |
| 15:57.38 | florian_kc | Daan: try to use pxa framebuffer driver |
| 16:00.23 | florian_kc | hrm... what package provides /etc/passwd? |
| 16:01.06 | Cwiiis | florian_kc: base-passwd I think |
| 16:01.34 | Cwiiis | florian_kc: do_rootfs failed with /etc/passwd not found is due to buggy ipkg, if that's why you ask |
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| 16:01.56 | florian_kc | heh |
| 16:02.20 | reenoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:02.23 | florian_kc | Cwiiis: heh right... do we have a fix for this? |
| 16:02.33 | florian_kc | unknown26: hi! |
| 16:02.42 | Cwiiis | florian_kc: I think rwhitby was working on a fix... Personally I just change DEFAULT_PREFERENCE :p |
| 16:03.10 | unknown26 | Good Evening florian_kc |
| 16:04.48 | Daan_ | florian, i'm gonna try it now ;) thank you |
| 16:05.11 | Daan_ | PXA LCD framebuffer support |
| 16:05.46 | florian_kc | yep |
| 16:09.58 | reenoo | fun fun fun |
| 16:10.19 | reenoo | even downgrading the X packages doesn't fix the freaking buttons |
| 16:10.24 | reenoo | :( |
| 16:11.38 | Daan_ | isn't it possible to extract a .config from a working 2.6 kernel? |
| 16:11.44 | Daan_ | like .config in /proc? |
| 16:12.34 | Daan_ | sorry wrong channel |
| 16:14.30 | unknown26 | Hmm GPE on the Nintendo-DS :-) |
| 16:14.37 | reenoo | jserv0: so me4se runs of top of J2SE? |
| 16:15.05 | reenoo | s/of top/on top/ |
| 16:16.50 | florian_kc | reenoo|kitchen: :-/ |
| 16:17.13 | florian_kc | unknown26: why not - that would be fun :-) |
| 16:18.19 | jserv0 | reenoo: me4se can run on top of PersonalJava (JDK 1.1 like) environment with minor changes. |
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| 16:29.11 | koen | Daan: zcat /proc/config.gz |
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| 16:33.02 | Cwiiis | anyone know the command to set X access control, off-hand? |
| 16:33.07 | Cwiiis | <something> +ac... heh |
| 16:33.25 | quitte | xhost |
| 16:33.30 | Cwiiis | thanks |
| 16:33.51 | koen | xhost + |
| 16:33.53 | Cwiiis | or just + rather... |
| 16:34.04 | quitte | xhost +hostname |
| 16:37.14 | Cwiiis | This is odd... |
| 16:37.32 | koen | remote X is broken in current cvsdates |
| 16:37.35 | Cwiiis | koen: Any idea why xmodmap seems to have stopped working? |
| 16:37.56 | koen | my guess is more random X breakage |
| 16:38.01 | Cwiiis | hmm :/ |
| 16:38.15 | Cwiiis | Using all the preferred versions, this used to work... Best check the scripts are still getting called properly |
| 16:38.17 | Cwiiis | After dinner. |
| 16:44.14 | reenoo | jserv0: the question is whether it'll work with jamvm+classpath, sablevm, or kaffe |
| 16:45.11 | reenoo | jserv0: if that was the case you could use it on handhelds running familiar/openzaurus and GPE |
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| 16:57.07 | reenoo | the power button sends keycode 129 (keysym 0x1008ff21, XF86PowerDown) |
| 16:57.16 | reenoo | but nothing happens :( |
| 16:58.19 | Cwiiis | koen: XF86Calendar, XF86Start, XF86Mail and XF86PowerDown are all bad keysym names apparently :/ |
| 16:59.00 | pb_ | reenoo: what does keylaunch say when it starts up? |
| 16:59.16 | reenoo | pb_: checking that now |
| 17:02.29 | reenoo | pb_: http://pastebin.ca/8674 |
| 17:03.12 | pb_ | well, that looks fine |
| 17:03.25 | pb_ | if you run /usr/bin/apm --suspend by hand, does it work? |
| 17:03.51 | pb_ | could also try attaching strace to keylaunch and see what happens when you push the button. |
| 17:04.10 | reenoo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:06.58 | pb_ | okay |
| 17:08.56 | quitte | ok. i think i have the environment now to try gpe. no xserver yet. can you please point me at the right documentation for building the whole bunch of packages? |
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| 17:16.43 | reenoo | pb_: heh. strace doesn't build for me |
| 17:16.54 | Cwiiis | quitte: www.openembedded.org |
| 17:18.10 | reenoo | pb_: err. I'll take that back. SF.net mirror breakage... |
| 17:26.12 | reenoo | pb_: it just sits there |
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| 17:30.11 | Cwiiis | reenoo: For the keys that xmodmap apparently successfully binds, I had a look with xev and they don't send the signals they're meant to (they remain as if xmodmap had never been run) |
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| 17:31.42 | reenoo | Cwiiis: I'm not running a current image. xev running on a remote system reports the correct keys |
| 17:31.57 | Cwiiis | ah... I wonder what's wrong on mine then :/ |
| 17:41.29 | spizkapa | quick question: if I'm getting undefined references to gdk_display, am I missing Xlib devs? |
| 17:41.47 | spizkapa | I have managed to build all of base up to gpe-setbg |
| 17:43.38 | koen | gdk_display sounds like gtk+ to me |
| 17:49.32 | florian | bbl |
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| 18:16.07 | spizkapa | hmmm, can someone with a little more experience of gpe have a look at the Makfile in base/gpe/gpe-setbg? You'll notice that the LDFLAGS are not passed in properly to the compilation and hence I'm getting undefined references... or am I missing something? |
| 18:16.29 | spizkapa | OK, that is gpe/base/gpe-setbg/Makefile |
| 18:17.21 | pb_ | reenoo: you mean that keylaunch doesn't do anything at all when you push the button? |
| 18:17.31 | reenoo | pb_: correct |
| 18:17.40 | pb_ | how odd |
| 18:17.43 | reenoo | pb_: it stops at "poll(" |
| 18:18.29 | reenoo | pb_: it's starts "Contacts" properly though. no idea what's going on here |
| 18:19.13 | reenoo | s/it's/it/ |
| 18:19.15 | reenoo | heh |
| 18:19.18 | pb_ | it starts Contacts even without showing anything in strace? |
| 18:19.24 | pb_ | if so, you must be stracing the wrong process. |
| 18:19.37 | pb_ | check that you don't have more than one instance of keylaunch running. That would certainly cause erroneous results. |
| 18:20.13 | reenoo | no, hitting the contacts button results in strace flooding the terminal as expected :) |
| 18:20.26 | pb_ | ah, right |
| 18:20.33 | pb_ | sounds like it is not managing to grab the power key for some reason. |
| 18:20.41 | pb_ | though, normally it would print an error about that at startup. |
| 18:21.02 | pb_ | might be worth checking that you don't have matchbox or anything set up to grab the power key. |
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| 18:22.49 | reenoo | matchbox isn't even running. |
| 18:25.46 | koen | hey tigrux |
| 18:25.51 | tigrux | Hello koen |
| 18:25.58 | tigrux | I'm back in mexico. |
| 18:26.09 | koen | nice |
| 18:27.06 | pb_ | hi tigrux |
| 18:27.15 | pb_ | ah, your grand tour of europe is over? |
| 18:28.28 | tigrux | Yes. |
| 18:28.45 | tigrux | pb_: It was really nice. |
| 18:30.08 | Daan | did you came to the Netherlands tooo? |
| 18:30.09 | Daan | ;) |
| 18:32.48 | reenoo | hey tigrux |
| 18:33.04 | tigrux | Hello reenoo |
| 18:33.23 | reenoo | apm -s from a terminal again then :/ |
| 18:33.30 | tigrux | I'm sleepy, I am still used to the european time zone. |
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| 18:55.27 | Cwiiis | Does anyone know what file/package stores xserver-kdrive's keysym names? |
| 18:55.45 | koen | no idea |
| 18:55.56 | koen | but we patch linux-libc-headers as well |
| 18:57.15 | Cwiiis | linux-libc-headers has something to do with keysym names? |
| 18:58.19 | luc | re |
| 18:58.47 | koen | luc: welcome back |
| 19:02.52 | luc | hmmm it seems I have to reinstall a toolchain |
| 19:03.03 | luc | the ipaq cluster only has gtk 2.2 :/ |
| 19:03.50 | koen | "I can't get gpsdrive to work becuase pdaXrom has a too old QT" |
| 19:03.59 | luc | koen: is oe usable with 256 Mo RAM? |
| 19:04.01 | koen | those zaurus people are really amusing |
| 19:04.06 | koen | luc: no |
| 19:04.20 | koen | you'll need at least 512mb and the bbcow patches |
| 19:05.26 | luc | hmm... |
| 19:05.26 | koen | according to my boss it took 5 days to compile task-bootstrap with 512mb withouth the bbcow patches |
| 19:05.37 | luc | not quite reasonable |
| 19:05.41 | Cwiiis | heh, found the source of the shortcuts problem I think :) |
| 19:07.00 | koen | that would be great |
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| 19:07.38 | koen | hey unknown26 |
| 19:07.53 | unknown26 | hi koen |
| 19:08.08 | unknown26 | koen: Think it's possible to run GPE under 4 MB or ram? |
| 19:08.53 | spizkapa | aha, found an actual bug, though only in compilation |
| 19:09.17 | koen | unknown26: 4mb wouldn't be enough |
| 19:09.19 | spizkapa | the latest libmb for matchbox installs under its includes under libmb/blabla.h |
| 19:09.33 | unknown26 | heh, guess no GPE for the Nintendo DS |
| 19:09.50 | spizkapa | and in startup-monitor/monitor.c the include is #include <mb/balbla.h> |
| 19:09.56 | spizkapa | easy fix |
| 19:09.57 | pb_ | ah, that does sound like a bug |
| 19:09.58 | Cwiiis | unknown26: The DS only has 4 megs of ram..? |
| 19:10.38 | unknown26 | Cwiiis: The cartrage has 128 MB rom, but suposedly there is only 4 mb ram for updating |
| 19:11.21 | Cwiiis | koen: The keysym names have changed in xproto - just trying with a CVSDATE the same as xserver-kdrive... |
| 19:11.35 | spizkapa | "monitor.c:37:25: mb/mbpixbuf.h: No such file or directory" with the original, change to #include <libmb/mbpixbuf.h> |
| 19:11.43 | Cwiiis | unknown26: heh, shame... |
| 19:12.34 | unknown26 | Cwiiis: Someone mentioned 'Execute in Place' but I dont know anything about this... |
| 19:12.40 | koen | unknown26: http://handhelds.org/~florian/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=readytousebackgrounds |
| 19:12.50 | koen | starring the bg from your theme |
| 19:13.08 | Cwiiis | unknown26: Does linux support that? Would be an interesting project to take on :) hehe |
| 19:13.30 | unknown26 | koen: Heh, cool :) |
| 19:13.32 | reenoo | Cwiiis: with 4MB or RAM? I doubt it |
| 19:13.48 | unknown26 | Cwiiis: I think it was a compiler option |
| 19:13.49 | koen | iirc some uclibc patch adds XIP support |
| 19:14.21 | Cwiiis | All arm supports executing in place, right? |
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| 19:14.41 | koen | hey cmarqu |
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| 19:24.18 | Cwiiis | New gpe-conf sounds good :) Is it in OE yet? |
| 19:24.40 | koen | nope |
| 19:25.18 | koen | want to add a .bb for it? |
| 19:25.37 | Cwiiis | Sure thing |
| 19:25.41 | koen | I wasn't sure which patches are still valid and which are in allready |
| 19:27.16 | Cwiiis | hmm, that's a lot of patches :/ Will just have to check I guess |
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| 20:49.33 | Toni | koen: the libsilc maintainer is now working on the build system, did you have some suggestiongs? could you be kind and mail to <silc-devel@lists.silcnet.org> with your comments? |
| 20:50.04 | Toni | I'm not very familiar with the system, would be better if you mail directly to avoid broken-radio effect :) |
| 20:52.26 | koen | heh |
| 20:52.37 | koen | I just know it breaks... |
| 20:53.00 | Toni | there's going to be a new release in some day, now would be the time to report problems :) |
| 20:53.18 | Toni | if you could post the relevant parts of the build logs or such |
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| 20:54.40 | koen | f I can use automake, autoconf and friends to regenerate the configure script it would be a big step forward |
| 20:54.52 | koen | anything beyond that is beyond my knowledge, sorry |
| 20:55.10 | Toni | there were some big changes in the build scripts according to cvs logs |
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| 22:02.05 | reenoo | Toni: being able to run just "autoreconf -v --install" to generate the build system from the autotools input files (configure.ac, Makefile.am) would be a start. |
| 22:02.38 | reenoo | Toni: kergoth has put some general suggestion up on the OE wiki. http://openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/Buildsystems_2fRulesOfThumb |
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| 23:15.10 | Cwiiis | koen: ok, I've no idea what's causing the odd key-shortcut behaviour... If you figure it out, please tell me :p |
| 23:30.17 | koen | Cwiiis: I wish I could figure it out |
| 23:30.26 | koen | I'll flash a new image tomorrow |
| 23:31.57 | Cwiiis | koen: I'm sure going through all the x-related packages one by one that are using a recent CVS date will yield the answer, eventually, but that'd take a lot of time... |
| 23:32.24 | Cwiiis | I'll try an earlier CVS date for the whole build from scratch tonight and see how that turns out tomorrow |
| 23:41.17 | reenoo | (still segfaults) |
| 23:41.22 | reenoo | 'night all |
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| 23:56.08 | thisboyiscrazy | Hi, has anyone gotten USB Serial Console to work in boot loader? |