| 00:01.02 | reenoo | even if someone's working on gtk-webcore they will unlikely care about ARM |
| 00:01.03 | Philippe | Cwiiis, I do not know what they mean with GtkHtml v2, but the version is already at 3.1 if I am not wrong.. |
| 00:01.25 | Philippe | Cwiiis, talking about the encompass thing. |
| 00:01.41 | Cwiiis | reenoo: If I had less things to do and any experience with gdb, I might feel different, but as it is... |
| 00:01.49 | Cwiiis | Philippe: I don't know either, but it certainly looks interesting |
| 00:02.55 | reenoo | Cwiiis: should be as simple as building debug versions of the gtk-webcore stuff and running osb-browser inside gdb |
| 00:03.09 | reenoo | Cwiiis: wait for the segfault and enter "bt" |
| 00:03.20 | Cwiiis | reenoo: Fair enough, I may take a look at it then |
| 00:03.28 | reenoo | Cwiiis: then look into the corresponding code |
| 00:03.33 | Philippe | And then get lots of grey hair :-) |
| 00:03.34 | reenoo | Cwiiis: cool |
| 00:03.56 | Cwiiis | reenoo: Is it possible with a browser using gtk-webcore, do you know, to specify a user style-sheet? (thinking of small screens here) |
| 00:04.39 | reenoo | Cwiiis: no idea, sorry |
| 00:04.46 | Cwiiis | hmm... |
| 00:04.55 | Cwiiis | Well, I'll experiment over easter if I have time :) |
| 00:05.34 | Philippe | Well I am off to sleep. Goodnight guys/girls. |
| 00:07.11 | reenoo | 'night Philippe |
| 00:07.24 | reenoo | 'night all |
| 00:08.19 | Cwiiis | coincidence? I think not! |
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| 08:20.38 | florian_hrz | good morning |
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| 09:22.13 | koen | good morning all |
| 09:27.04 | florian_hrz | morning koen |
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| 09:35.02 | koen | hey flo |
| 09:35.05 | koen | florian_hrz: |
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| 09:46.55 | mallum | hey florian_hrz, koen |
| 09:47.11 | koen | hey mallum |
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| 09:52.00 | pb_ | hi all |
| 09:52.19 | koen | hey pb_ |
| 09:54.12 | florian_hrz | hi mallum, hi pb_ |
| 09:55.32 | pb_ | florian_hrz: good morning |
| 09:56.00 | florian_hrz | hrm |
| 09:56.12 | florian_hrz | ~lart racoon-tool |
| 09:56.17 | pb_ | heh |
| 09:56.24 | pb_ | yah, I hate racoon-tool. |
| 09:56.32 | pb_ | I gave up on it and just went back to writing my racoon.conf files by hand. |
| 09:57.17 | florian_hrz | it creates a nice file with only a global section :-/ |
| 09:57.24 | pb_ | doh, that's no good. |
| 09:57.57 | florian_hrz | but it updates the file... |
| 09:58.20 | florian_hrz | stupid piece of software... |
| 09:58.53 | florian_hrz | well... there is some more important stuff to do, i should go to kc... |
| 09:59.44 | florian_hrz | brb |
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| 10:26.33 | Cwiiis | ah brilliant, a gpe-image at last :) |
| 10:29.09 | mallum | Cwiiis: heya, how the wireless going ? |
| 10:29.52 | Cwiiis | mallum: Not started yet, but will start this week as soon as I have time (going back home today) - The hard drive crashing kinda set me back a bit :| |
| 10:30.01 | mallum | Cwiiis: np |
| 10:30.07 | mallum | Cwiiis: sorry to hassle |
| 10:30.26 | Cwiiis | mallum: Not at all, I was hoping to have finished with it by now :) hehe - Computers suck... |
| 10:31.31 | mallum | Cwiiis: usb2 ext enclosures are very cheap nowadays - useful for backups |
| 10:32.29 | Cwiiis | mallum: I have an 80 gig external usb2 disk, I just wasn't expecting that to happen :p hehe - I do backups, but clearly not regularly enough... |
| 10:33.22 | koen|uni | hey Cwiiis |
| 10:33.47 | Cwiiis | hey koen |
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| 10:56.25 | florian_kc | re |
| 10:57.00 | koen|uni | florian_kc: welcome back |
| 11:19.47 | Cwiiis | Right, off home - back later |
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| 14:28.49 | koen | hey tigrux |
| 14:29.22 | tigrux | Good day masters koen, florian_kc, pb_ |
| 14:33.25 | basiliscus | I must buy a new SD card, since the HP one doesn't work with 0.8.x and h5450. Do you have experience with working sd cards for this situation ? |
| 14:33.53 | koen | my dane elec cards work on the h5550 |
| 14:35.13 | basiliscus | thanx :) , any other report would appreciated so I have more choices |
| 14:41.56 | pb_ | tigrux: good afternoon! |
| 14:43.45 | florian_kc | hi tigrux |
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| 15:08.04 | zecke | tigrux: hey |
| 15:08.14 | tigrux | zecke: Hi. |
| 15:08.33 | florian_kc | hi zecke |
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| 16:02.10 | reenoo_ | afternoon |
| 16:02.38 | florian_kc | hi reenoo_ |
| 16:02.48 | florian_kc | ~lart OE for using BK |
| 16:03.08 | reenoo_ | hey florian_kc |
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| 16:28.50 | clorabit | hello |
| 16:29.19 | clorabit | what is the best mp3 player in gpe? |
| 16:31.43 | koen | clorabit: gpe-nmf or vlc-gpe |
| 16:34.53 | clorabit | koen, what gst-plugin i need to install to play mp3 files |
| 16:35.42 | clorabit | koen, can i play movie with it ? |
| 16:37.05 | koen | should be automatic and gpe-nmf can't play movies |
| 16:38.50 | clorabit | how about vlc-gpe? |
| 16:40.39 | koen | that one can |
| 16:41.08 | koen | clorabit: http://handhelds.org/~florian/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Applications&id=land_20877 |
| 16:44.02 | koen | mplayer performs better, but has no gui in it's default config |
| 16:44.59 | clorabit | i've tried mplayer but sound doesn't work |
| 16:47.02 | clorabit | i've test using memoplayer sound work properly |
| 16:52.24 | clorabit | koen, if i want to use gpe-nmf what version do u suggest |
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| 18:16.41 | luc | hi |
| 18:19.47 | florian_kc | hey luc ! |
| 18:21.04 | luc | hey florian_kc ! |
| 18:21.11 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 18:21.28 | florian_kc | luc: do you enjoy your new job? |
| 18:21.39 | luc | :) |
| 18:22.58 | florian_kc | looks promising ;-) |
| 18:23.40 | luc | it is. |
| 18:23.58 | luc | still spending some time to put my hands on all these things |
| 18:24.31 | florian_kc | heh |
| 18:24.32 | luc | ...and still to have to fill up some papers for my previous job |
| 18:24.48 | luc | some peer programming survey |
| 18:25.08 | florian_kc | sounds nasty... |
| 18:25.31 | luc | well... |
| 18:25.54 | luc | ...I think I have a full week of paper work at home |
| 18:26.15 | luc | need also to make some writting before FEI general meeting |
| 18:27.00 | florian_kc | hrm... that reminds me to a pile of nasty paper work waiting for me at home. :-/ |
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| 18:33.30 | Cwiiis | ah, back home - my room's been decorated :) |
| 18:35.27 | florian_kc | bbl |
| 18:54.49 | Cwiiis | hmm... No ts on recent gpe-image for collie :p Wonder what's caused that... |
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| 20:52.07 | zecke | can some one please point Nils to www.gnu.org |
| 20:52.35 | zecke | "But one outstanding reason for this is that Qt/embedded is not free." so the General Public is not Free Software? |
| 20:53.57 | luc | zecke: are you reading history books? ;) |
| 21:04.15 | reenoo_ | zecke: not from a corporate/commercial/ISV POV |
| 21:05.19 | zecke | reenoo_: Why should Trolltech allow Nils doing something asocial without charging money? |
| 21:05.42 | reenoo_ | koen: don't worry. that was about all I'm going to say on that topic |
| 21:05.55 | zecke | hehe |
| 21:07.35 | reenoo_ | zecke: doesn't matter much to me. the whole point is that the Qt fans out there have to understand GPL vs. LGPL. GPL'ed libraries are not an option for most ISVs. |
| 21:07.41 | reenoo_ | pretty simple actually |
| 21:08.01 | koen|tv | heh |
| 21:08.27 | koen|tv | From familiar-bounces@handhelds.org Wed Mar 23 22:07:38 2005 |
| 21:08.27 | koen|tv | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:09.26 | zecke | reenoo_: but then he should say I can not make a business with the most used Free Software license |
| 21:10.31 | zecke | reenoo_: but his little, old, boring little NDA covered app is just stupid |
| 21:13.08 | mallum | seems all the action happens on fam-dev |
| 21:13.13 | mallum | Im not subscribed :( |
| 21:13.16 | koen|tv | heh |
| 21:13.19 | mallum | is there an archive |
| 21:13.53 | zecke | mallum: probably outdatet but not too interesting |
| 21:14.17 | koen|tv | mallum: if I scroll down 20 mails it hits 2004 |
| 21:15.06 | koen|tv | mallum: what action were you referring too? |
| 21:16.45 | mallum | <zecke> "But one outstanding reason for this is that Qt/embedded is not free." so the General Public is not Free Software? |
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| 21:25.58 | reenoo_ | zecke: don't confuse libraries with applications in general. for ISVs GPL'ed libraries are simply not an option most of the time. if you want to provide a platform for ISVs you'll have to go LGPL or more liberate. accept it or don't. as for the rest, you'll probably have to take that up with Nils |
| 21:33.06 | zecke | reenoo_: it might be true that GPL libraries do not allow asocial development, guess what they try hard to not allow it. Does it make the library less free? surely not and this is where Nils is confusing business and Free Software |
| 21:35.32 | zecke | reenoo_: and yes Nils, Florian or me couldn't afford a Qt License Quad-Pack |
| 21:41.07 | luc | 'night all. |
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| 21:59.19 | zecke | reenoo|afk: hehe have fun |
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