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| 01:00.47 | kiatoa | Quick gpe question re bitbake/oe: Any CVSDATE likely to yield working gpe-image? Latest bk/svn breaks. |
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| 01:15.40 | p0m | Hmm. |
| 01:15.48 | p0m | Anyone know where the 0.8.1 feed for GPE is? |
| 01:22.03 | reenoo | 'night all |
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| 02:36.56 | p0m | oramirez: You wouldn't happen to know why ipkg would create a strange named directory in /, and none of its files seem to be updated, yet it's eating your space like crazy. |
| 02:37.54 | oramirez | p0m, don't know :( |
| 02:38.39 | p0m | Bugger. |
| 02:38.54 | p0m | I'm trying to find the files that ipkg threw everywhere, but I can't. |
| 02:39.59 | oramirez | p0m, is this happening in the new version? |
| 02:40.06 | p0m | Yeah. |
| 02:40.12 | p0m | Snapshot before the 0.8.1 release |
| 02:40.27 | p0m | 3900 GPE image. |
| 02:40.38 | oramirez | gosh.. I am going to install it.. |
| 02:40.48 | oramirez | I was going to install it.. |
| 02:41.11 | p0m | Heh. |
| 02:41.37 | p0m | I'm downloading the official 0.8.1 release now. |
| 02:41.38 | oramirez | let me install it.. |
| 02:41.42 | oramirez | ahh ok. |
| 02:41.44 | oramirez | got it. |
| 02:41.53 | oramirez | I just download the oficial 0.8.1 |
| 02:42.07 | oramirez | I am going to try it right away. |
| 02:42.35 | p0m | It was weird. The list wouldn't update whatever I did. |
| 02:43.06 | p0m | And it stopped at the world Packages.gz |
| 02:43.42 | p0m | Then again, I added the world one via the graphical interface. |
| 02:43.46 | oramirez | mmm.. |
| 02:44.37 | p0m | Ohh, it's dumping the files in those strange named folders. |
| 02:44.43 | p0m | root@wintermute:/# find / -name *world* |
| 02:44.49 | p0m | find: /proc/8/fd: No such file or directory |
| 02:45.01 | p0m | Hmm. |
| 02:45.06 | p0m | I can't copy and paste the last bit. |
| 02:45.19 | p0m | " / (i@/world" |
| 02:45.49 | p0m | root@wintermute:/# cd / (i@/ |
| 02:45.49 | p0m | -sh: Syntax error: "(" unexpected |
| 02:46.11 | p0m | root@wintermute:/# cd "/ (i@/" |
| 02:46.11 | p0m | cd: 13: can't cd to / (i@/ |
| 02:47.18 | p0m | Stranger and stranger. |
| 02:49.31 | oramirez | gosh... |
| 02:50.01 | p0m | I think it tried to read from /media/card |
| 02:50.11 | p0m | Which isn't mounted right now. |
| 02:52.57 | oramirez | but still, you having this problems right? |
| 03:02.03 | p0m | Yeah. |
| 03:04.01 | p0m | There. |
| 03:04.08 | p0m | I did a rm -ri / |
| 03:04.11 | p0m | And did it that way. |
| 03:04.30 | p0m | I now have my space back :) |
| 03:10.27 | oramirez | p0m, I am installing gpe :) |
| 03:10.35 | oramirez | with oficial 0.8.1 |
| 03:10.49 | p0m | oramirez: I seem to have fixed the problem. |
| 03:10.56 | p0m | Will note it in case someone else comes across it. |
| 03:11.03 | oramirez | p0m, nice :) |
| 03:32.30 | kiatoa | How do I build gpe 0.8.1? Just set DISTRO = "familiar-0.8.1" or do I need to set CVSDATE also? |
| 03:33.31 | p0m | I'd assume you need the CVSDATE too. |
| 03:34.04 | kiatoa | Any idea what it should be set to? |
| 03:34.16 | p0m | Nope. |
| 03:34.25 | kiatoa | ok. thanks. |
| 04:19.02 | p0m | oramirez: Have you install 0.8.1? |
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| 07:33.13 | oramirez | is there a tutorial to programs apps in gpe? |
| 07:40.47 | oramirez | koen|train, the handwriting in gpe seem a little too slow |
| 07:40.58 | oramirez | koen|train, is this all right? |
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| 09:25.40 | oramirez | koen|train, are you going to take the train? :P |
| 09:27.10 | koen|train | heh |
| 09:27.19 | koen|train | only 2,5 hours left |
| 09:28.54 | oramirez | koen|train, where are you going? |
| 09:29.24 | oramirez | koen|train, you must be from europe, am I wrong? |
| 09:32.57 | koen|train | I'm going to brussels, and I am from europe |
| 09:39.02 | oramirez | nice :) |
| 09:39.12 | oramirez | have a nice trip :) |
| 09:39.36 | koen|train | thank |
| 09:40.06 | koen|train | s |
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| 09:59.42 | pb_ | hi all |
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| 11:07.44 | reenoo | morning |
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| 12:14.58 | basiliscus | hi to all |
| 12:15.38 | reenoo | hi basiliscus |
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| 12:19.25 | kiatoa | Hello! Has anyone built gpe recently? Dbus is failing for me. |
| 12:19.45 | pb_ | That's very sad. What's the error? |
| 12:20.05 | kiatoa | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:20.06 | kiatoa | | chmod: cannot access `patches/tmpdir': No such file or directory |
| 12:21.12 | kiatoa | I did a bitbake -cclean and when that didn't work rm -rf of the build area. |
| 12:21.31 | pb_ | odd |
| 12:21.35 | pb_ | I've never seen that error |
| 12:22.16 | kiatoa | Can I use bk to revert the dbus directory to a pristiene state? |
| 12:24.17 | kiatoa | I did a bk pull;bk -r co -q hoping that it would clean it up but still get the error. |
| 12:25.16 | pb_ | Did you edit the dbus files? |
| 12:25.20 | pb_ | If so, use "bk unedit" |
| 12:25.31 | kiatoa | No. Never touched the dbus files. |
| 12:26.04 | pb_ | In that case, it should already been in a pristine state. |
| 12:26.18 | kiatoa | Yup. |
| 12:33.12 | kiatoa | I have tried setting CVSDATE to various dates and tried setting DISTRO to "familiar-0.8.1" to no avail. Very odd. |
| 12:43.07 | kiatoa | pb_: I did: touch /home/.../packages/dbus/dbus/tmpdir.patch and now it is continuing. Perhaps that patch file is not in the download of dbus. |
| 12:44.13 | pb_ | Ah. |
| 12:44.21 | pb_ | Try copying the tmpdir.patch from dbus-0.22. |
| 12:44.31 | pb_ | It does seem to be missing for 0.23 for some reason. |
| 12:56.08 | reenoo | fixed in the bk tree |
| 12:56.34 | reenoo | no clue why this has ever worked... |
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| 12:58.18 | seb__ | hi |
| 13:01.59 | seb__ | did someone know how can i get my hp pocket camera under gpe ? |
| 13:03.40 | reenoo | I don't think there are any drivers for that one |
| 13:03.54 | seb__ | sure ? |
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| 13:42.59 | bedboi | hi there |
| 13:43.09 | reenoo | hi bedboi |
| 13:43.16 | bedboi | anyone at fosdem? |
| 13:43.26 | pb_ | yeah |
| 13:45.04 | bedboi | cool |
| 13:46.55 | pb_ | very good |
| 13:46.59 | reenoo | excellent |
| 13:47.04 | reenoo | hey koen|fosdem |
| 13:47.05 | bedboi | what's up there? |
| 13:47.09 | koen|fosdem | they block icmp, that's why pings fail |
| 13:47.13 | koen|fosdem | hey reenoo & bedboi |
| 13:47.29 | reenoo | koen|fosdem: yeah. traceroute will work though |
| 13:47.45 | reenoo | (well.. last year it did) |
| 14:02.45 | koen|fosdem | indeed, traceroute works well |
| 14:06.33 | bedboi | what's going on there? |
| 14:06.43 | bedboi | any cool stuff about gpe? |
| 14:06.47 | bedboi | and handhelds |
| 14:08.56 | pb_ | not a whole lot yet |
| 14:09.05 | pb_ | most of Team GPE has yet to arrive |
| 14:09.12 | bedboi | ah |
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| 14:51.09 | pb_ | ah, I just had word that Luc is in the vicinity, and kernel concepts is en route. |
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| 14:51.20 | qbc | hi at all |
| 14:52.09 | qbc | have someone a idea wath happens wehn i want install locale-base-de-ch and it say Configuring locale-base-de-ch |
| 14:52.09 | qbc | memory exhausted |
| 14:52.18 | qbc | ...? |
| 14:55.54 | koen|fosdem | iirc that means that ipkg uses too much memory |
| 14:56.11 | pb_ | localedef, not ipkg, but yes |
| 14:56.26 | pb_ | someone needs to patch it to use less. |
| 14:58.00 | qbc | how i can install now german language on my ipaq? |
| 14:58.14 | qbc | ...witouth memory exhaused.. |
| 14:59.15 | pb_ | other than fixing localedef? I don't know. |
| 15:01.33 | qbc | and how i can fix this localedef thing |
| 15:02.02 | pb_ | dunno. inspect the source code to find out why it uses so much memory, I suppose. |
| 15:03.14 | qbc | ...oh so. ..i can not coding, then i must wayt until someone other fix this problem.. |
| 15:08.46 | qbc | reboot |
| 15:09.04 | qbc | ..sorry wrong konsole :-) |
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| 15:17.37 | basiliscus | is there a difference between stable or testing v8.1 from http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8.1/install/download.html and 0217 snapshot ? |
| 15:18.12 | koen|fosdem | no, they are the same |
| 15:20.50 | basiliscus | koen|fosdem: thanks, have a good time at fosdem :) |
| 15:21.05 | koen|fosdem | basiliscus: thanks |
| 15:21.56 | oramirez | koen|fosdem, I have install gpe.. I see that the ink recognition is some kind of slow. |
| 15:22.05 | pb_ | koen|fosdem: Nils was about 20km away when I spoke to him, so I guess he should be here imminently. |
| 15:22.05 | oramirez | koen|fosdem, is that ok? |
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| 15:40.14 | koen|fosdem | oramirez: never really used it |
| 15:40.24 | koen|fosdem | team GPE has arrived |
| 15:41.07 | koen|fosdem | pb_ is spreading the propaganda and nils is showing the gadgets |
| 15:45.17 | jserv2 | koen|fosdem: Hi! |
| 15:45.45 | jserv2 | koen|fosdem: do you prepare vide/audio broadcasting in FOSDEM? |
| 15:46.45 | koen|fosdem | we are behind nat, so that would work to well |
| 15:46.54 | jserv2 | pity. |
| 15:51.44 | koen|fosdem | http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cam/ |
| 15:55.04 | koen|fosdem | (for a semi live stream) |
| 15:56.54 | basiliscus | how often will update ? |
| 15:57.08 | koen|fosdem | 3 times a minute |
| 15:58.05 | koen|fosdem | pb is explaining gtk performance |
| 15:59.03 | basiliscus | uhmmm , I get always the same pic (16:51:08) |
| 15:59.28 | koen|fosdem | ok, try now |
| 16:00.29 | basiliscus | good ! |
| 16:08.18 | koen|fosdem | discussion about memory management |
| 16:09.05 | koen|fosdem | a 'low on memory' message from the kernel would be nice |
| 16:10.36 | koen|fosdem | diet-x11 explained: cut old unused code from x11 |
| 16:23.45 | koen|fosdem | "dillo is stuck in the corefonts ghetto" |
| 16:27.54 | koen|fosdem | ok, my laptop is getting low on power |
| 16:28.08 | basiliscus | and then ? |
| 16:28.19 | koen|fosdem | it's going to sleep |
| 16:28.32 | koen|away | bbl |
| 17:28.36 | reenoo | re |
| 17:31.49 | qbc | .. wehn i have install some applications (qpdf2 xmms-embedded konqueror-embedded) how are the icons on desktop? |
| 17:32.54 | reenoo | installed on a gpe image? |
| 17:33.33 | qbc | yes sorrry :-) |
| 17:33.41 | reenoo | that won't work then |
| 17:33.51 | reenoo | those are qt applications |
| 17:34.30 | reenoo | i.e. they will only work with opie |
| 17:34.39 | qbc | no she works but i must start from bash |
| 17:40.15 | reenoo | again.. mixing gpe and opie apps is not supposed to work. no clue what you're doing there |
| 17:48.08 | qbc | ...hm i hink she work wehn i type xmms on konsole the programm starts (i mean) only witouth gui i think the programm run? are i wrong? i am a little bit a newbee on linux stuff.. |
| 17:51.16 | reenoo | all apps you mentioned are QT/embedded applications, i.e. they use QT/e to draw their gui directly to the framebuffer. GPE however uses GTK+ and X for the same purpose. you can't have both type of applications run at the same time |
| 17:52.15 | qbc | ...hm well i try to understand. but wenn i want xmms then must i install opie? is there no version vor gpe? |
| 17:53.16 | reenoo | you can use other audio players with gpe. but if you specifically want xmms-embedded you'll have to install opie |
| 17:54.14 | qbc | ok now now its must not xmms be but how named the other and how i can find applications for gpe? |
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| 18:06.20 | florian | hi all |
| 18:06.33 | qbc | hi florian |
| 18:07.52 | florian | hi qbc |
| 18:08.02 | reenoo | hey florian |
| 18:08.09 | reenoo | how's fosdem? |
| 18:09.30 | florian | reenoo: nice... we just arrived at our hotel. |
| 18:10.54 | reenoo | qbc: gpe apps are in the x11 feeds, opie apps in the opie feeds. as far as audio players for gpe are concerned you can try gpe-nmf, vlc-gpe or any command line player like madplay |
| 18:11.20 | qbc | thanks reeno :-) |
| 18:11.31 | qbc | sorry reenoo |
| 18:11.38 | reenoo | florian: ah, nice. so they provide internet access there? |
| 18:15.06 | reenoo | qbc: the dependencies for gpe-nmf are currently busted though. I'm working on fixing that |
| 18:15.30 | florian | reenoo: yes... atlas has internet access, but not in all rooms. |
| 18:22.35 | florian | bbl |
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| 18:53.49 | qbc | byby at all |
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