| 00:21.48 | reenoo | 'night all |
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| 03:08.51 | WishX | when you insert a cf what is the device location? |
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| 07:46.09 | koen | good morning all |
| 07:57.23 | dragonk | mornin' |
| 07:57.32 | koen | hey dragonk |
| 07:58.08 | dragonk | much going on? |
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| 08:00.00 | koen | just got out of bed, so no :) |
| 08:04.14 | dragonk | ah. ive just got to work :P |
| 08:04.22 | dragonk | writing documentation. yay. |
| 08:04.23 | dragonk | joy |
| 08:04.39 | koen | ah, writing repoert over her :) |
| 08:04.46 | koen | reports* |
| 08:04.54 | dragonk | more yay, for sure :P |
| 08:05.00 | koen | heh |
| 08:05.22 | dragonk | oh, good idea. |
| 08:05.31 | dragonk | suffering from flu a lil, so prolly tea would be better. |
| 08:05.43 | koen | ah, get well soon |
| 08:05.54 | dragonk | yeah, should do, unless the cough gets worse |
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| 08:47.20 | koen | hey rob_w |
| 09:17.36 | rob_w | HI koen |
| 09:18.50 | rob_w | koen: i am trying opie right now and yep it looks nice but they have also very annoying problems .. like powerbutton not suspending and package manager does only messing around |
| 09:22.28 | rob_w | i think i ll go back to gpe |
| 09:25.38 | koen | hehe |
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| 09:28.24 | koen | hey bedboi |
| 09:29.26 | bedboi | hi there |
| 09:46.22 | koen | hey hadess |
| 09:47.26 | hadess | hey koen |
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| 10:09.38 | koen | hey ade|desk and florian |
| 10:09.56 | ade|desk | hey koen et al |
| 10:10.25 | florian | hi all |
| 10:11.12 | koen | hehe |
| 10:11.21 | bedboi | florian: lol |
| 10:12.23 | koen | ~calc 4.2 * 3.6 * 0.5 |
| 10:12.47 | koen | ibot: ? |
| 10:13.53 | bedboi | he can't do math :) |
| 10:14.14 | koen | 7,56cm3 |
| 10:14.24 | koen | (volume of a CFII card) |
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| 10:25.47 | zecke | florian: hey |
| 10:26.49 | florian | hi zecke |
| 10:27.15 | zecke | florian: let me power up the machine and I'll upload an icecream deb + the bbclass |
| 10:28.12 | florian | zecke: cool... don't hurry for me, i need to go to the place where my machines are first. |
| 10:39.34 | florian | ibot: botmail for pb_ Do you know what this is: (gpe-contacts:28215): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_type_unique: assertion `g_type_from_name (gtkinfo->type_name) == 0' failed - I get this opening the edit window in gpe-contacts. |
| 10:39.58 | koen | mmmm, images..... |
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| 10:46.50 | florian | koen: somethig like this: http://handhelds.org/~florian/contacts.png |
| 10:47.28 | koen | cool |
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| 10:50.50 | koen | florian: is it possible to import a vcard containing an image, or does libgpevtype need some attention for that? |
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| 10:52.41 | florian | koen: hmm... that would be something we woul need to add to libgpevtype i think, but i don't think this is hard to do. |
| 10:55.55 | florian | But maybe we should start with some import support in the contacts gui. |
| 11:00.09 | florian | bbl |
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| 13:02.06 | Tygger_Bob | morning all |
| 13:05.30 | koen | hey Tygger_Bob |
| 13:06.32 | jobi | hi all |
| 13:06.40 | koen | hey jobi |
| 13:07.31 | Tygger_Bob | Hi jobi |
| 13:08.00 | jobi | where would be the best place to insert a chmod a+w /dev/sound/*? |
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| 13:08.57 | koen | well, after login, because the permissions get reset during login (no idea why) |
| 13:09.06 | koen | you could try a setuid helper |
| 13:09.11 | koen | hey pb_ |
| 13:09.32 | pb_ | hi all |
| 13:10.14 | pb_ | ibot, botmail for florian_kc: sorry, I do not know what that error is. try running under gdb with a breakpoint on g_log(). |
| 13:11.47 | tigrux | Good afternoon koen |
| 13:12.07 | koen | hey tigrux |
| 13:12.10 | pb_ | hi tigrux |
| 13:12.30 | tigrux | Master pb_! Good afternoon! |
| 13:13.21 | pb_ | tigrux: heh, it is only 8am here. I am in Boston today. |
| 13:13.57 | tigrux | pb_: I'm in Prague. :-) |
| 13:15.09 | pb_ | tigrux: aha, excellent. |
| 13:15.27 | Tygger_Bob | pb_: whatcha doing in Boston? |
| 13:15.37 | Tygger_Bob | still looking for office space? |
| 13:15.43 | Tygger_Bob | ;^) |
| 13:19.53 | pb_ | Tygger_Bob: hehe. no; an X developer meeting, and LinuxWorld. |
| 13:20.11 | Tygger_Bob | Figured.. the second, anyway |
| 13:25.48 | jobi | pb_: recording and playing out simultaneously at 44.1 kHz on a h5550 should be ok right? |
| 13:26.23 | pb_ | yep |
| 13:27.43 | koen | jobi: would adding a VU meter for the mic and volume control be hard to do? |
| 13:28.12 | koen | audio still doesn't work, and I'm wondering if minisip actually uses the sound subsystem |
| 13:28.50 | jobi | koen: sound is broken on ipaq now, we have moved to using 44.1 kHz from and to the soundcard |
| 13:29.12 | jobi | I'm trying to figure out why it doesn't work on the ipaq |
| 13:29.16 | koen | aha |
| 13:34.30 | jobi | it seems to block on read and write |
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| 13:36.53 | koen | hey florian_kc |
| 13:37.35 | florian_kc | re |
| 13:41.33 | Tygger_Bob | re florian_kc |
| 13:47.26 | pb_ | hi florian_kc |
| 13:49.22 | florian_kc | pb_: hi, thanks for your botmail... i'll try to find out what is going on there. |
| 13:49.40 | pb_ | florian_kc: okay, cool. sounds like a strange problem. |
| 13:50.38 | jobi | pb_: how does the sound driver deal with underrun? |
| 13:52.54 | pb_ | jobi: it just plays silence |
| 13:53.08 | jobi | pb_: ok |
| 13:53.19 | jobi | any idea why read or write would block? |
| 13:53.39 | pb_ | write() would block if the buffers are full. read() would block if no data is available. |
| 13:54.33 | jobi | but they should not block forever |
| 13:54.38 | pb_ | indeed not |
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| 14:01.30 | pb_ | full-duplex audio certainly has worked on the h5500 in the past: the company that funded the h5400 port wanted to use it for telephony. |
| 14:01.44 | pb_ | it's conceivable that it's gotten broken since, but it doesn't seem very likely |
| 14:02.12 | koen | which company was that btw? |
| 14:02.42 | koen | (and which brave souls did the port?) |
| 14:02.58 | pb_ | CoCo Communications, and me |
| 14:03.46 | koen | ah yes, you said something like that at LSM |
| 14:14.11 | pb_ | florian_kc: I checked in the new .bb files for libschedule and libxsettings-client. cvs is updated. |
| 14:14.48 | pb_ | can I talk someone into fixing the SRC_URI for the industrial theme engine? |
| 14:14.59 | koen | pb_: check oe ml |
| 14:15.08 | florian_kc | pb_: oh great - many thanks! i think as soon as that bug in gpe-contacts is fixed it is time for a new release there :-) |
| 14:15.15 | pb_ | it points to a nonexistent file in the debian archive at the moment, apparently. |
| 14:15.32 | koen | pb_: michael kropfberger made a .bb for the new version |
| 14:16.01 | pb_ | ah, very good |
| 14:16.39 | pb_ | will you check th |
| 14:16.40 | pb_ | at in? |
| 14:16.46 | koen | sure |
| 14:17.16 | florian_kc | Did anyone check in my Simpad patch? |
| 14:17.23 | koen | I'll bk delete the old one too |
| 14:17.26 | pb_ | it still refers to the Debian archive, though, which is not ideal |
| 14:17.26 | pb_ | I'd like to see the SRC_URI changed to ftp.ximian.com or whereever the upstream site is |
| 14:17.43 | pb_ | ok |
| 14:17.45 | koen | I'll look into that |
| 14:17.50 | pb_ | florian_kc: which patch was that? |
| 14:17.50 | pb_ | koen: thanks |
| 14:18.09 | koen | LOL: http://ftp.gnome.org/conspiracy/ |
| 14:18.45 | __moray | koen: tinc.debian.net |
| 14:19.07 | koen | heh |
| 14:21.51 | florian_kc | pb_: I sent it to OE ml about one week ago, "[patch] Simpad switches input driver fixes". That is that fix with the key mapping we discussed ages ago and i forgot to submit. |
| 14:23.01 | pb_ | oh, right |
| 14:23.13 | pb_ | if it isn't showing up in the cvs tree now, it has not been checked in |
| 14:23.44 | pb_ | I'm going to get some breakfast now, but I can commit it when I get back if necessary. Or you can ask koen or someone to check it in. |
| 14:27.31 | florian_kc | ah cool |
| 14:28.04 | florian_kc | koen: try to be a good guy and help this hungry pb_ :-) |
| 14:29.54 | florian_kc | koen: many thanks |
| 14:30.52 | Tygger_Bob | later all.. |
| 14:30.57 | Tygger_Bob | off to take my son to the hospital.. |
| 14:31.00 | koen | bye Tygger_Bob |
| 14:31.06 | koen | good luck |
| 14:31.21 | Tygger_Bob | just minor day surgery.. |
| 14:31.34 | Tygger_Bob | we'll be back this aft |
| 14:31.38 | koen | tonsils? |
| 14:31.51 | Tygger_Bob | no.. |
| 14:38.05 | koen | florian_kc: can I delete keymap.patch? |
| 14:40.33 | koen | ah , yes |
| 14:40.33 | florian_kc | koen: yes please... apart from being obsolete it introduces a bug. |
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| 14:54.56 | koen | florian_kc: http://oe-devel.bkbits.net:8080/openembedded/ChangeSet@-2d?nav=index.html |
| 15:00.30 | koen | hmmm |
| 15:03.02 | florian_kc | koen: ah cool! |
| 15:03.47 | koen | I can't seem to find the upstream source for the industrial-theme |
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| 15:30.11 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 15:49.36 | florian_kc | pb_: are you aware of any reasons not to release a new libgpevtype? |
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| 15:53.13 | tux`` | hello. How gpecalendar save the events ? It's a xml file ? a special database ? |
| 15:54.13 | florian_kc | tux``: It is a sqlite database, if you want to play woith events it might be a good idea to look at libeventdb which deals with events in gpe. |
| 15:55.38 | tux`` | ok thx. in fact, i use WebCalendar on my network and i want to make a sync between them |
| 15:55.58 | koen | ics support in gpe would be nice (hint, hint) |
| 15:55.58 | florian_kc | ah cool... |
| 15:56.22 | florian_kc | ics==vcal |
| 15:56.33 | tux`` | (gpe is very unstable on last release on ipaq 3600) |
| 15:56.55 | florian_kc | tux``: which image do you have installed? |
| 15:56.58 | tux`` | (last unstable release) |
| 15:57.02 | koen | florian_kc: yes, but calendar refuses to import it |
| 15:57.22 | tux`` | gpe-image-h3600-20050114231305.rootfs.jffs2 |
| 15:57.42 | koen | ah yes |
| 15:57.55 | tux`` | freezes etc ... |
| 15:57.57 | koen | try one from familiar.handhelds.org/snapshots |
| 15:58.46 | tux`` | ok thx |
| 15:59.24 | florian_kc | koen: ah right... maybe because this is a list of vcal events in one file. it that's the cause it should be quite to add support to import them... |
| 15:59.38 | florian_kc | we need to collect this information somewhere. |
| 16:00.11 | tux`` | hum, i haven't look the files but, the translation in other language is available ? |
| 16:00.25 | florian_kc | tux``: sure |
| 16:00.40 | tux`` | ok |
| 16:00.58 | koen | I have iCal upload the .ics's to my webdav server, so I can always view them, it would be nice if gpe supported fetching webcals too |
| 16:01.31 | florian_kc | tux``: btw... for syncing it might be a cool idea to write a multisync plugin for WebCalendar. With this it would be possible to sync with gpe and other supported devices like Palms and cellphones. |
| 16:02.27 | tux`` | webcalendar support the imports/exports in ical/vcal |
| 16:06.02 | koen | 17:05 < CIA-8> koen * r1.2986 openembedded/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:06.02 | koen | 17:05 < CIA-8> preferred-gpe-versions.inc: |
| 16:06.02 | koen | 17:05 < CIA-8> update libgpe-vtype to 0.8 |
| 16:06.02 | koen | 17:05 < CIA-8> libgpevtype_0.8.bb: |
| 16:06.02 | koen | 17:05 < CIA-8> bk cp libgpevtype_0.7.bb libgpevtype_0.8.bb |
| 16:06.14 | florian_kc | koen: i sent work for you to oe ml |
| 16:07.11 | florian_kc | koen: not the best idea, i added an additional section to fix an sdk issue... but it is only the addition of a few lines. |
| 16:07.32 | florian_kc | koen: but... fast! |
| 16:10.42 | koen | 17:09 < CIA-8> koen * r1.2987 openembedded/packages/libgpevtype/libgpevtype_0.8.bb: |
| 16:10.45 | koen | 17:09 < CIA-8> libgpevtype_0.8.bb: |
| 16:10.48 | koen | 17:09 < CIA-8> add do_install_append, courtesy Florian Boor |
| 16:10.57 | florian_kc | koen: yay cool! |
| 16:13.30 | koen | btw, who's taking care of dropping the multisync plugin in opensync cvs? |
| 16:13.56 | florian_kc | i think pb_ |
| 16:14.08 | koen | cool |
| 16:14.26 | florian_kc | i wonder if ipk-upload worked |
| 16:14.53 | koen | upload works, ipkg-make-index doesn't |
| 16:15.08 | koen | some ipkgs dissappear too |
| 16:16.57 | florian_kc | uups |
| 16:17.37 | koen | you could pull from oe-devel |
| 16:17.52 | koen | ehm |
| 16:18.14 | koen | or ask pb to update cvs tomorrow |
| 16:18.48 | florian_kc | koen: i uploaded this package :-) |
| 16:19.17 | koen | aha |
| 16:19.24 | koen | check the .html |
| 16:20.39 | florian_kc | oh right i forgot... |
| 16:22.40 | florian_kc | hrm... looks like i need to update my ipkg-utils |
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| 16:37.45 | pb_ | florian_kc: I don't know of any reason not to release a new libgpevtype. |
| 16:39.36 | pb_ | yes, I'll take care of the sync plugin thing. I need to leave here in 20 minutes, though, and may not have any internet access for the rest of the day, so it may need to wait until I am back in England. |
| 16:41.25 | pb_ | koen: maybe tigrux can tell you where the industrial engine comes from. I think it is a Ximian thing. |
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| 16:46.02 | florian_kc | pb_: ah cool - okay |
| 16:46.47 | koen | pb_: ok |
| 16:49.09 | florian_kc | :-( |
| 16:52.20 | pb_ | later all |
| 16:52.27 | koen | later pb_ |
| 16:53.53 | florian_kc | pb_: later... |
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| 17:00.57 | koen | pxa only does 1bit sd, right? |
| 17:01.10 | koen | (before I state nonsense in my report) |
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| 17:10.28 | zecke | florian_kc: hey |
| 17:10.45 | zecke | florian_kc: let me recreate the icecream .deb |
| 17:11.03 | zecke | florian_kc: the class can be found at handhelds.org/~zecke/downloads/tmp/icecc.bbclass |
| 17:14.15 | florian_kc | zecke: okay... let me grab it... |
| 17:16.59 | zecke | florian_kc: in your local.conf you will need to do two things |
| 17:17.08 | zecke | florian_kc: INHERIT += " icecc " |
| 17:17.24 | zecke | florian_kc: and set ICECC_PATH = "/where/is/icecc" |
| 17:20.08 | florian_kc | zecke: do i need to use -j with icecc like with distcc? |
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| 17:22.37 | qbc | hello at all :-) |
| 17:22.57 | zecke | florian_kc: yes set it higher though |
| 17:23.10 | koen|food | hey qbc |
| 17:23.34 | zecke | http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=icecream |
| 17:23.45 | qbc | i have a question about the language in gpe. in the login-screen we can select a language (english default) hm now my question how i get "languagepacks" |
| 17:24.34 | florian_kc | qbc: that should be provided by the local-base-* packages |
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| 17:25.54 | qbc | and wehre i can find this packages.. |
| 17:28.30 | florian_kc | s/local/locale |
| 17:28.57 | florian_kc | qbc: they should be in the feeds for your distribution... if not this would be a bug. |
| 17:29.30 | florian_kc | zecke: looks good :-) tell me if your ned deb is finished |
| 17:29.36 | florian_kc | s/ned/new |
| 17:32.45 | qbc | hm i am a little bit a newbee i dont now how exactly i shuld search the s/local/locale on my ipaq? or wehre |
| 17:34.30 | zecke | florian_kc: also you need to set the version of your compiler in the bbclass |
| 17:36.12 | florian_kc | zecke: right.. i just found that setting :-) |
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| 17:37.19 | florian_kc | qbc: the easiest way would be open the feed url with your browser and check wich packeges are available. which language do you try to install? |
| 17:37.46 | qbc | i want to install german |
| 17:39.07 | zecke | florian_kc: ok in the same tmp directory are icecream packages |
| 17:39.30 | zecke | you need to run the scheduler on one computer |
| 17:41.37 | florian_kc | qbc: ah okay... which distribution do you have installed? |
| 17:42.25 | qbc | i have familiar 0.8.0 stable with gpe (2.5) |
| 17:43.18 | florian_kc | zecke: ok... is that deb in the dir of the bbclass up to date? |
| 17:46.41 | florian_kc | qbc: i think the package you want is locale-base-de-de |
| 17:46.55 | zecke | florian_kc: It should be current, but if it depends on libstdc++4.0 I need to fix it |
| 17:47.12 | florian_kc | zecke: ok, i'll try |
| 17:47.42 | florian_kc | koen|welding: have fun :-) |
| 17:47.46 | koen|welding | thanks |
| 17:47.50 | koen|welding | bbl |
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| 17:56.25 | florian_kc | zecke: oka, this looks good... |
| 17:59.32 | florian_kc | hrm.. icecc-monitor depends on the wrong stuff :-/ |
| 18:02.10 | zecke | florian_kc: 'wrong' as in depends on kde? |
| 18:02.44 | florian_kc | zecke: heh yes, but don't take me too serious :-) |
| 18:05.29 | zecke | florian_kc: apt-get install create-something-different is known to fix such things |
| 18:07.00 | florian_kc | zecke: indeed :-) |
| 18:08.07 | zecke | florian_kc: the GUI is not hard to do, it uses a library to get the statistics |
| 18:09.37 | florian_kc | zecke: well... if i get bored in near future i maybe hack some small gui to take with me in the company to check what is going on using my pda ;-) |
| 18:10.40 | zecke | We're almost back to timesharing systems. For example you could bill nils for using your cpu for xyz... |
| 18:11.28 | florian_kc | hehe... and we call this grid-computing ;) |
| 18:12.58 | florian_kc | hell i need to run... looks like the final test needs to wait |
| 18:13.13 | florian_kc | bbl |
| 18:13.42 | zecke | cya |
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| 18:47.49 | rhinoman | Hey folks. |
| 18:48.20 | rhinoman | Need to recover a router via rs-232. What is suggested for a vt100 emulator - minicom ? |
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| 19:01.42 | reenoo | evening |
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| 19:15.57 | scot | when I ipkg upgrade I get the following...Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for gpe-session-scripts: xdpyinfo |
| 19:16.03 | scot | any thoughts?? |
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| 19:26.18 | florian | re |
| 19:31.51 | reenoo | hey florian |
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| 19:50.04 | rhinoman | What's the internal serial device name on the ipaq 3600 kit ? |
| 19:50.18 | rhinoman | '/dev/ttySA0' ? |
| 19:50.32 | florian | right |
| 19:52.31 | rhinoman | florian: Need to talk to a router via rs-232. Any suggested packages for this ? (just need vt100 terminal emulation) |
| 19:59.19 | Tygger-Bob | Is minimo in OE? |
| 19:59.22 | Tygger-Bob | oops.. |
| 19:59.25 | Tygger-Bob | minicom |
| 19:59.31 | Tygger-Bob | I keep getting them mixed up. |
| 19:59.41 | rhinoman | Ah, thanks. |
| 20:01.53 | florian | hmm i don't know bot the minicom debian package should work |
| 20:12.31 | qbc | ..hello again, was short somethings eat ;-) i have anoter question. about ipaq 3870 bluetooth pan . i connect ipaq to pc via gpe-bluetooth pan service and i want to make ipkg update but it fails also a ping fails... have enione a idea wat i make wrong. must i set special ip on ipaq or on pc? |
| 20:49.51 | *** join/#gpe pb_ (~pb@4.21.170.226) |
| 20:50.27 | pigeon | yo pb_ |
| 20:51.47 | pb_ | g'day pigeon |
| 20:54.26 | florian | re |
| 20:56.06 | pb_ | florian: wb |
| 20:56.35 | florian | qbc: you need to configure both devices to be in the same network (usually a private one). |
| 20:56.53 | florian | qbc: do you have anx experience with networking? |
| 20:59.45 | qbc | ..hi florian sorry i have not mutch idea of networking. but wenn you can tell me wath file on ipaq and on pc i must edit i think i can make |
| 21:08.46 | florian | brb, tel |
| 21:09.31 | *** join/#gpe TyggerBob (~myname@CPE00045a265f64-CM000f9f7c58fa.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 21:10.48 | pb_ | hi TyggerBob |
| 21:10.57 | TyggerBob | Hi pb_ |
| 21:11.03 | TyggerBob | How's Boston?> |
| 21:11.13 | pb_ | Good, though I'm leaving in a couple of hours. |
| 21:12.04 | TyggerBob | Ahh.. all done? |
| 21:12.11 | TyggerBob | How was LWE? |
| 21:13.19 | pb_ | Not bad. Saw a few interesting things. |
| 21:13.51 | pb_ | Found one company with a Linux-based replacement for MS-Exchange, which might be handy for our sales guys. |
| 21:15.01 | pb_ | Did you get your son all sorted out at the hospital? |
| 21:15.28 | TyggerBob | more or less.. |
| 21:15.35 | TyggerBob | his appointment was cancelled. |
| 21:15.42 | pb_ | doh |
| 21:15.43 | TyggerBob | postponed till mid march, anyway |
| 21:16.16 | TyggerBob | There were two little ones in for surgery before him today, and the surgeon was still working on the first one when we got there. |
| 21:16.26 | TyggerBob | apparently things weren't going well, unfortunately.. |
| 21:16.33 | pb_ | Oh dear. |
| 21:16.39 | TyggerBob | feel back for his/her parents.. it was a newborn |
| 21:17.07 | TyggerBob | so our inconvenience of heading down there seems pretty insignificant |
| 21:18.14 | TyggerBob | re koen |
| 21:18.20 | koen | ey TyggerBob |
| 21:18.46 | TyggerBob | koen: how was welding class? |
| 21:19.24 | koen | still no welding, only designing |
| 21:19.35 | TyggerBob | I still think florian's idea of a good solid iPAQ case is a good one. |
| 21:19.39 | koen | but I've got a cardboard trebuchet now |
| 21:19.45 | TyggerBob | hehehe |
| 21:19.46 | TyggerBob | Cool |
| 21:19.54 | pb_ | heh |
| 21:20.16 | TyggerBob | Curtis has a little plastic one from McDonalds that launches this little plastic ball about an inch across. |
| 21:20.22 | TyggerBob | man.. that thing gets some air |
| 21:20.29 | koen | heh |
| 21:20.50 | TyggerBob | more of a catapult, than a trebuchet, I suppose, though. |
| 21:21.24 | TyggerBob | koen: just watch out for the greek fire |
| 21:21.33 | koen | :) |
| 21:21.45 | koen | I have |
| 21:22.15 | TyggerBob | besides, pouring water on a cardboard trebuchet would be detrimental to it's structural integrity, I would suppose. |
| 21:23.24 | koen | ah yes, water is not my friend |
| 21:23.50 | koen | but the real thing will be 60x60x70 cm made out of 3mm steel plating |
| 21:24.11 | TyggerBob | Cool |
| 21:24.26 | TyggerBob | and then a ballista |
| 21:24.30 | TyggerBob | and you'll be all set |
| 21:25.08 | koen | my own little siege engines |
| 21:25.51 | pb_ | later all |
| 21:25.54 | TyggerBob | later pb_ |
| 21:25.59 | TyggerBob | have a good flight |
| 21:26.02 | pb_ | thanks |
| 21:26.16 | TyggerBob | wife's teaching prenatal classes tonight. |
| 21:26.32 | koen | bon appetit |
| 21:35.36 | qbc | @florian i must go to bed i work tomorrow. maybe you can write me in a mail to qbc at freesurf.ch with the hint to get a pan network or bette a hint wehre file i must edit on my pc and on my ipaq. wen you write i will be happy otherwise its no problem for me :-) maybee i look tomorrow again look heer. byby at all |
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| 21:57.28 | koen | 63 minutes before the deadline |
| 21:59.24 | reenoo | heh |
| 22:00.45 | reenoo | we sent this one assignment 14 seconds (!!) before its deadline because the mail server was having issues before |
| 22:00.53 | koen | D'oh |
| 22:01.24 | koen | the mailserver over here was playing the random delay game too |
| 22:01.48 | koen | where delay is 3 hours till 3 weeks |
| 22:02.03 | reenoo | doh |
| 22:02.20 | koen | and I quote "too unstable to fix" |
| 22:03.19 | reenoo | speaking of assignments... |
| 22:03.56 | koen | found a working haskell compiler/interpreter yet? |
| 22:04.09 | reenoo | sort of |
| 22:04.28 | reenoo | I copied the ghc installation from the university network |
| 22:05.36 | koen | when it works, it works |
| 22:05.59 | reenoo | yeah, it happens to work fine because it's maintained by people who actually use it |
| 22:06.42 | reenoo | (it's also physically on a separate box so that the usual suspects can't kill it off...) |
| 22:07.38 | koen | I wonder how hard the bb/OE setup will be on my uni |
| 22:08.38 | reenoo | I used to have a script that populated /var/tmp with the old OE |
| 22:09.22 | reenoo | populate as in build native tools, download/install bk, fire off build |
| 22:09.22 | koen | Luckily they use ipaqs |
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| 22:09.59 | reenoo | ah, you mean deploying OE built stuff? |
| 22:10.01 | koen | I guess I'll have to do a similar thing for those people |
| 22:10.15 | reenoo | right |
| 22:10.20 | koen | setting up OE and sort of maintain it |
| 22:10.40 | koen | I get study credits and money in return |
| 22:11.08 | koen | "student assistant" |
| 22:11.29 | koen | NOTE: package gpe-image-1.0: completed |
| 22:11.31 | koen | good |
| 22:12.08 | reenoo | heh |
| 22:12.09 | reenoo | neat |
| 22:12.20 | reenoo | where do you study again? ;) |
| 22:12.39 | koen | www.utwente.nl :) |
| 22:12.49 | koen | the small problem is that I do EE, not CS |
| 22:13.11 | reenoo | CS is boring anyway |
| 22:13.19 | koen | so I might go to through some bureaucraties loops to get my study credits |
| 22:13.32 | reenoo | ah, I get it now |
| 22:14.54 | *** join/#gpe Guy- (~korn@chardonnay.math.bme.hu) |
| 22:14.55 | Guy- | hi |
| 22:15.00 | koen | hey Guy- |
| 22:15.20 | Guy- | what's supposed to happen after a HP ipaq with GPE 2.5 boots and displays the splash screen? |
| 22:15.23 | koen | cool, no local hacks this this time |
| 22:15.31 | koen | a login screen |
| 22:15.44 | Guy- | koen: and what can I do if a login screen doesn't appear? |
| 22:15.49 | reenoo | koen: *nod*. I took a math course this semester. math courses are generally accepted for CS students (same department etc.). and even in this case it was difficult enough to get the administrative stuff done... |
| 22:15.50 | koen | (only hacks for ipaq-pxa-2.6) |
| 22:16.04 | koen | Guy-: remove the usb plug |
| 22:16.34 | Guy- | koen: it's not plugged in |
| 22:16.37 | koen | reenoo: I could easily get it credit *if* I would major on embedded systems or software design |
| 22:16.43 | koen | Guy-: try rebooting |
| 22:16.55 | Guy- | koen: I did, multiple times |
| 22:17.05 | Guy- | koen: any chance of getting something via a serial console? |
| 22:17.07 | koen | but I will major in Biomedical engineering |
| 22:17.12 | koen | Guy-: yes |
| 22:17.23 | Guy- | koen: what would the terminal settings likely be? 9600n81? |
| 22:17.30 | koen | Guy-: what kind of ipaq? |
| 22:17.39 | Guy- | koen: 5400 |
| 22:17.39 | koen | 115200 8n1, no flow control |
| 22:17.44 | koen | aha |
| 22:17.58 | koen | you could try to remove the battery for an hour or so |
| 22:18.17 | Guy- | for an hour? why? |
| 22:18.39 | koen | the h5xxx has some problems with the machine state which needs to be reset |
| 22:18.54 | koen | and the backup battery needs to be empty to do that |
| 22:19.22 | Guy- | I see |
| 22:19.22 | reenoo | koen: ah. bummer. good luck with that then. |
| 22:19.35 | koen | if you would enable console you would most likely see it hang after insmodding h5400_asic |
| 22:19.47 | koen | reenoo: As long as I get the money :) |
| 22:20.02 | reenoo | heh. good point |
| 22:20.10 | Guy- | koen: my problems started when somehow the mb-panel disappeared - what would be the right way to get it back? I tried assigning it to a button, but that didn't work |
| 22:20.20 | Guy- | the last line I get via serial is "Uncompressing Linux........................................... done, booting the kernel. |
| 22:20.22 | Guy- | " |
| 22:20.41 | koen | set console=ttyS0 in linux args |
| 22:20.48 | koen | enter bootldr |
| 22:20.54 | Guy- | how do I get a prompt? |
| 22:20.56 | koen | type params linuxargs |
| 22:21.07 | koen | action key + reset |
| 22:21.31 | reenoo | ~herring reenoo |
| 22:21.34 | ibot | ACTION whacks reenoo on the side of the head with a large red herring named alfred |
| 22:21.38 | Guy- | the action key would be the big round one in the middle? (sorry, never used a PDA before) |
| 22:21.51 | koen | yes |
| 22:22.00 | reenoo | I must have been really tired when I wrote this |
| 22:22.39 | Guy- | linuxargs= < noinitrd root=/dev/mtdblock1 init=/linuxrc console=ttySA0> - this is what it says currently |
| 22:22.55 | koen | type set linuxargs "noinitrd root=/dev/mtdblock1 init=/linuxrc console=ttyS0" |
| 22:23.12 | Guy- | right |
| 22:23.51 | Guy- | and then 'eval params'? |
| 22:24.02 | koen | not really necessary |
| 22:24.13 | koen | 'boot' |
| 22:24.37 | Guy- | OK, this is beginning to look like linux at last :) |
| 22:24.40 | koen | <lots of messages scrolling by> |
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| 22:25.10 | florian_ | re |
| 22:25.12 | Guy- | and you were right, it does freeze on h5400_asic |
| 22:25.16 | koen | hey florian_ |
| 22:25.33 | Guy- | OK, is there a way to reset this thing without taking the battery out? |
| 22:25.46 | Guy- | I'd like to look around with init=/bin/sh, or wouldn't that work? |
| 22:25.48 | koen | actually, no |
| 22:26.08 | koen | the hardware is setup wrongly at the moment |
| 22:26.31 | Guy- | and there is nothing I can do from a shell to fix it? |
| 22:26.35 | koen | nope |
| 22:26.38 | Guy- | OK |
| 22:27.02 | koen | the best thing is to remove the battery and put it back on in the morning |
| 22:27.30 | Guy- | I was hoping to make some headway with it tonight... oh well |
| 22:27.46 | Guy- | about the panel - what is the official way to restart it if it disappeared? |
| 22:28.01 | koen | it should start on the next login |
| 22:28.17 | Guy- | I guess so, but I mean if it disappears again |
| 22:28.46 | koen | restart the session |
| 22:29.05 | Guy- | how do I log out without the panel? |
| 22:29.05 | koen | or launch matchbox-panel from the shell |
| 22:29.15 | koen | ssh in or reboot |
| 22:29.21 | Guy- | couldn't do anything in the shell, there was no on-screen keyboard |
| 22:29.35 | koen | /etc/init.d/gpe-dm stop ; /etc/init.d/gpe-dm start |
| 22:29.52 | Guy- | I'd be glad if I were as far as being able to ssh in :) |
| 22:30.08 | Guy- | do you think it'd be possible to use my logitech usb keyboard with the ipaq? |
| 22:30.08 | koen | or login via serial |
| 22:30.11 | Guy- | not usb |
| 22:30.13 | Guy- | bluetooth |
| 22:30.28 | koen | h5400? |
| 22:30.32 | Guy- | yes |
| 22:30.36 | Guy- | it does have BT though |
| 22:30.44 | koen | in that case it's possible |
| 22:30.55 | koen | (the h5500 has broken bluetooth) |
| 22:30.58 | Guy- | is a getty normally running on ttyS0? |
| 22:31.05 | koen | normally, yes |
| 22:31.15 | Guy- | some good news at last :) |
| 22:32.00 | Guy- | OK, I think I'll get by on my own, once I have a shell |
| 22:32.01 | koen | you'll probably need to install some modules to get the keyboard working (hci_hid), but that's not too hard |
| 22:32.03 | Guy- | thanks a lot for your help |
| 22:32.24 | koen | np |
| 22:32.39 | koen | 'night all |
| 22:32.49 | reenoo | 'night koen|sleep |
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| 22:40.24 | Guy- | hey koen, this box actually runs a kernel compiled by you - though I'm probably the only one surprised by that :) |
| 23:08.43 | *** part/#gpe agd5f (~agd5f@65.242.105.130) |
| 23:17.09 | reenoo | I'm off to bed. 'night all |
