| 00:01.04 | koen | tapo: edit /etc/init.d/alighment.sh and rxvt won't be as buggy |
| 00:01.22 | tapo | florian: do you know wether theres a default network configuration in familiar/gpe ? is it dhcp? I can setup a dhcp server... |
| 00:01.24 | florian | tapo: sure, we do this all the time... and ibot is very useful :-) |
| 00:01.25 | koen | change the 5 into a 3 |
| 00:01.46 | florian | tapo: yes, it is dhcp |
| 00:01.58 | tapo | koen: in oz352 there's no such file -- and I cannot login with the familiar snapshot... |
| 00:02.16 | florian | ibot: lart gpe libraries for broken installation targets |
| 00:02.20 | koen | tapo: no alignment.sh? |
| 00:02.27 | tapo | koen: 1 |
| 00:03.01 | koen | so you do have it? |
| 00:03.22 | tapo | koen: wait :) |
| 00:03.35 | tapo | complicated |
| 00:04.01 | tapo | on oz352 with gpe I didnt find that file. but I searched only in /etc/init.d/ |
| 00:04.29 | koen | florian: can you make .bbs for libschedule and libxsettnigs client? |
| 00:04.29 | tapo | I -have- _now_ gpe snapshot of familiar -- withut login so I cant look... |
| 00:04.58 | koen | tapo: do echo 3 > /proc/cpu/alignment to fix rxvt |
| 00:05.36 | tapo | ok - have to reflash oz352/gpe for that to try it... (writing it down...( |
| 00:05.56 | tapo | thanks in advance |
| 00:06.01 | koen | np |
| 00:06.31 | koen | I'm building gpe/oz3553 for corgi right now |
| 00:06.49 | koen | after that it will be 2.6 testing on that |
| 00:08.02 | florian | koen: are they missing?! |
| 00:09.21 | koen | florian: as you just released new versions, yes they are missing |
| 00:09.59 | florian | koen: ah okay... i mailed pb_ about the stuff i fixed. |
| 00:10.22 | koen | pb is in boston all weekend doing cool X stuff |
| 00:10.23 | florian | koen: i don't think we need to change anything, only the version numbers need to be updated. |
| 00:10.34 | tapo | koen: thanks |
| 00:10.52 | florian | koen: i hope they have internet access in boston ;) |
| 00:10.57 | tapo | (fighting another war against dhcpd...) |
| 00:11.16 | florian | heh, dhcpd is tough :-) |
| 00:11.30 | florian | koen: i don't have access to bk |
| 00:11.40 | koen | florian: I know |
| 00:11.46 | tapo | linux = useless error messages... |
| 00:12.15 | florian | tapo: well... i use linux _because_ of that nice error messages ;) |
| 00:12.29 | tapo | florian: like "exiting." ? |
| 00:12.59 | koen | looks like this build is holding |
| 00:13.03 | koen | 'night all |
| 00:13.14 | tapo | n8 |
| 00:13.43 | florian | koen|sleep: good night |
| 00:13.54 | florian | tapo: uh? where? |
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| 00:15.03 | tapo | florian: suse :) dhcpd.conf... yast... default curse #7 |
| 00:15.15 | p0m | Heh. |
| 00:17.26 | tapo | aaah. netmask in dhcp range was wrong. |
| 00:17.47 | florian | *g* |
| 00:38.31 | florian | good night |
| 00:38.52 | tapo | good idea |
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| 08:57.04 | [qbc] | hi at all |
| 08:57.38 | koen | good morning all |
| 08:58.16 | [qbc] | is enibody heere to help me conect my ipaq famikiar 0.8.0 & gpe with my linux machine? ..sorry about my english |
| 08:58.54 | koen | I normally use wlan for that |
| 08:59.50 | [qbc] | yes but i have only bluetooth or serial to use and i dont now exactli how i must make |
| 09:01.56 | koen | for serial you could use http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/PPPhowto |
| 09:03.33 | [qbc] | yes this document i have soon read but it wasn't work for me. i dont now why. must i set some ip on my ipaq ore something? |
| 09:03.56 | koen | yes |
| 09:04.19 | koen | but I never used ppp with my ipaq, so I don't really have advice |
| 09:04.45 | [qbc] | oh ok this little hint helps me maybe some steps ago |
| 09:05.43 | [qbc] | ehm how i must exactly set the ip in my ipaq? in the global ? |
| 09:05.53 | koen | in the ppp script |
| 09:06.23 | koen | /usr/sbin/pppd /dev/ttyS0 115200 192.168.0.1:192.168.0.2 nodetach local noauth nocrtscts lock user ppp connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -t3 ogin--ogin: ppp" |
| 09:06.48 | [qbc] | have you a screenshot ore somthing. how is the ppp script? |
| 09:07.01 | koen | that was the ppp-script |
| 09:07.07 | koen | I pasted that from the hwto |
| 09:08.55 | [qbc] | yes i have see but how in the ipaq must i set how ip and the ip's above in the text that you have paste from the web wat ip are this ? My ip was other in my lan must i set my ip in the script, and when yes how first last? |
| 09:10.08 | koen | those IPs are for ppp0 in the ipaq and ppp0 on the computer |
| 09:11.34 | [qbc] | ok this is good. now i have only a problem to set the ppp0 ip on the ipaq. how i set them? |
| 09:12.24 | koen | it gets set automatically |
| 09:12.41 | [qbc] | and how i can find out? |
| 09:12.57 | koen | if ppp doesn't exit with an error, it worked |
| 09:13.14 | [qbc] | i have still error |
| 09:13.17 | [qbc] | :-( |
| 09:14.20 | [qbc] | its say Serial connection established. |
| 09:14.25 | [qbc] | then... |
| 09:14.39 | [qbc] | Using interface ppp0 |
| 09:14.45 | [qbc] | then... |
| 09:14.50 | [qbc] | Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1 |
| 09:15.02 | [qbc] | and then nothing happens |
| 09:15.21 | koen | what does ifconfig say? |
| 09:15.45 | [qbc] | momentt pl |
| 09:15.57 | [qbc] | after Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1 |
| 09:16.14 | [qbc] | say ago a loong time LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests |
| 09:16.26 | [qbc] | ant then Connection terminated. |
| 09:16.32 | [qbc] | this was all |
| 09:17.02 | koen | no idea why that happens |
| 09:17.08 | koen | you could ask on #handhelds.org |
| 09:17.28 | [qbc] | ok i try thx 1000 for your help sir |
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| 10:40.25 | rob_w | we should start a portal to buy and sell used pda`s !! |
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| 11:22.00 | koen | grrrr |
| 11:22.28 | koen | kernel 2.6 on the Z is really nice, but it screws up the keymap *really bad* |
| 11:23.06 | koen | I can't type 'a' on the keyboard and the onscreen keyboard |
| 11:24.02 | rob_w|pda | ohh |
| 11:24.34 | koen | but I can type 'r' using *7* different keys |
| 11:25.50 | rob_w|pda | seven times or at the same time ? |
| 11:26.14 | rob_w|pda | ur Z was cheap, right? |
| 11:26.31 | koen | pretty cheap |
| 11:27.05 | koen | rob_w|pda: if I type qwerty it displays as wrrrt |
| 11:27.12 | rob_w|pda | luckly i got a job now , so i can have money for these things again |
| 11:27.18 | rob_w|pda | he |
| 11:27.20 | koen | hehe |
| 11:27.52 | rob_w|pda | xmodmap is ur friend |
| 11:28.23 | koen | yeah |
| 11:39.27 | rob_w|pda | ok xboard complains about : |
| 11:39.33 | rob_w|pda | xboard: no fonts match pattern -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* |
| 11:40.42 | koen | use the vera fonts |
| 11:41.53 | rob_w|pda | should i alter one under /usr/share/fonts/ttf ? |
| 11:47.33 | rob_w|pda | hmm, how do i get around this |
| 11:55.52 | rob_w|pda | how does this pattern be correct as it starts with a - |
| 11:56.02 | rob_w|pda | no file can do this |
| 11:58.55 | koen | rob_w|pda: it can't find helvetica bold, tell xboard to use another font |
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| 12:03.47 | rob_w|pda | i was planning to rename one but i cannot create a file like -x- |
| 12:05.13 | rob_w|pda | and i dont know any other place then /usr/share/fonts |
| 12:20.35 | koen | rob_w|pda: it isn't a file, but a fontpatch |
| 12:20.38 | koen | path* |
| 12:20.56 | koen | a sort of vfs for fonts |
| 12:22.01 | rob_w | so 2 options : either i get that a matching font ( but where to place ) or i fake another ? |
| 12:23.41 | koen | grep for helvetica in the source |
| 12:23.53 | koen | and replace it with a font that is installed |
| 12:30.14 | rob_w | that is a big task |
| 12:34.45 | rob_w | ok i ll do this in some minutes |
| 12:37.22 | rob_w | mayne we will have a nice chess app soon |
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| 13:44.58 | reenoo | afternoon |
| 13:45.21 | rob_w | hi reenoo |
| 13:45.36 | reenoo | hey rob_w |
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| 13:51.25 | florian_ | hi all |
| 13:51.57 | reenoo | moin florian_ |
| 13:54.28 | koen | hey florian_ and reenoo |
| 14:03.34 | reenoo | hey koen |
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| 14:05.42 | koen | hey jg, enjoying XdevConf? |
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| 14:07.57 | koen | hey there mallum, enjoying XdevConf? |
| 14:11.23 | rob_w|pda | hi mallum |
| 14:12.14 | rob_w|pda | mallum: iam trying to get xboard to run and it complains about missing fonts |
| 14:13.26 | rob_w|pda | mallum: how can i tell what fonts are available? |
| 14:14.22 | koen | rob_w|pda: try the look and feel config panel |
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| 14:15.34 | mallum | rob_w, fc-list ? |
| 14:16.28 | rob_w|pda | no fc-list command |
| 14:20.19 | rob_w|pda | hmm |
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| 14:28.42 | rob_w|pda | how can i add fonts? |
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| 14:37.05 | JimmyBondi | hi @ll |
| 14:38.58 | florian_ | hi pb_ |
| 14:39.09 | florian_ | hello JimmyBondi |
| 14:42.15 | pb_ | florian_, good afternoon! |
| 14:42.26 | pb_ | oh, crumbs, my xchat is configured with this stupid comma! |
| 14:42.45 | koen | mallum style |
| 14:43.06 | pb_ | heh, right |
| 14:43.14 | pb_ | pb_: phew, better now |
| 14:44.40 | mallum | commas rule |
| 14:46.41 | dc_ | mallum: I saw a picture of your black pug in a magazine the other day |
| 14:47.21 | mallum | dc_, yeah SId is picture editor of that magazine |
| 14:47.33 | dc_ | ah, hehe. |
| 14:48.03 | mallum | my cat is in it too iirc |
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| 14:48.30 | dc_ | how fun. |
| 14:48.47 | vIkSiT | hi all |
| 14:48.47 | florian_ | mallum: that @ was better ;-) |
| 14:48.55 | florian_ | vIkSiT: hi |
| 14:48.56 | koen | mallum: give us a sign when you go on stage |
| 14:49.12 | koen | so we can see you on http://freedesktop.org/~keithp/webcam.html |
| 14:49.44 | mallum | florian_: happy now, I changed it |
| 14:50.08 | mallum | florian_: ',' was just the default in debian xchat I guess |
| 14:50.13 | mallum | koen: okey |
| 14:51.41 | florian_ | mallum: :g: |
| 14:51.51 | vIkSiT | hey florian_ |
| 14:52.03 | vIkSiT | mallum, are you mallum, who did the matchbox project? |
| 14:52.04 | florian_ | mallum: yes right... i wonder who had this strange idea. |
| 14:53.05 | vIkSiT | would anyone say gpe would work better on an hp ipaq 5550? (than opie, given the power problems which abound?) |
| 14:53.41 | mallum | vIkSiT: yep |
| 14:55.13 | florian_ | vIkSiT: I don't think so, the images are made from the same build system. Opie and GPE are the user interfaces, that power issue is a kernel problem imho. |
| 14:56.30 | vIkSiT | hmm.. koen and I were having a talk, and he was of the opinion that the power mapping might have a problem, since the mapping itself is a software issue? |
| 14:56.30 | florian_ | Hrm... the video is a little bit dark... is this jg speaking?! |
| 14:56.50 | JimmyBondi | can anyone give me a hint: |
| 14:57.09 | JimmyBondi | i have probs with login on host console |
| 14:57.34 | JimmyBondi | after changing login-settings i get a cyan screen |
| 14:57.57 | JimmyBondi | keyboard down and a white field above |
| 14:58.07 | florian_ | vIkSiT: that's possible, software controls almost everything in the h5000 ipaqs. this stuff is not that easy to debug because it needs much of time... |
| 14:58.27 | JimmyBondi | but i'm not able to input anything |
| 14:58.37 | florian_ | JimmyBondi: hah, that old bug... which image do you have installed? |
| 14:58.48 | JimmyBondi | i'm using gpe 0.8.0 |
| 14:59.52 | JimmyBondi | is there a possible reinstall w/o new uploading 4?14¿4? |
| 14:59.59 | koen | no |
| 15:00.09 | JimmyBondi | it take half an hour (serial) |
| 15:00.18 | JimmyBondi | 4:14-( |
| 15:00.28 | JimmyBondi | ok - maybe back in a hour ... |
| 15:00.34 | JimmyBondi | 4T14hanks |
| 15:00.42 | JimmyBondi | btw: |
| 15:01.02 | JimmyBondi | is the 0.8.0 ok or better to use gpe 0.8.1 4?14¿4? |
| 15:01.17 | koen | 0.8.1 is better |
| 15:02.02 | JimmyBondi | but where to find 4?14¿4? |
| 15:02.15 | JimmyBondi | on dl/fam/rel i don't see |
| 15:02.16 | koen | familiar.handhelds.org/snapshots |
| 15:02.22 | JimmyBondi | ok |
| 15:02.41 | koen | 0.8.1 isn't released yet (as it says on the familiar page) |
| 15:03.49 | JimmyBondi | what is for a newbie better to prefer: gpe or opie 4?14¿4? |
| 15:04.19 | koen | try both |
| 15:04.26 | vIkSiT | JimmyBondi, afaik, it doesn't make any difference at all! |
| 15:04.33 | JimmyBondi | 4H14e 4H14e 4H14e - just a hour lag 4:14-) |
| 15:04.37 | JimmyBondi | aha |
| 15:08.14 | JimmyBondi | before i'll flush: when i use bootldr 2.21 i cannot use gpe - only with 2.18 |
| 15:08.21 | JimmyBondi | a bug or a feature 4?14¿4? |
| 15:08.34 | pb_ | that's a bug |
| 15:08.43 | pb_ | what goes wrong with 2.21.12? |
| 15:08.47 | pb_ | it works for everyone else. |
| 15:09.02 | florian_ | hmm yes, this sounds strange |
| 15:09.17 | JimmyBondi | 4h14mmmm... - i got errors and gpe will not come up |
| 15:09.21 | florian_ | pb_: oh btw. did you get my mail? |
| 15:10.21 | JimmyBondi | i've read a lot of how-to and so on |
| 15:10.41 | JimmyBondi | somewhere i read to pflash 0 and reset partition |
| 15:10.47 | JimmyBondi | is it necessary 4?14¿4? |
| 15:11.02 | pb_ | florian_: yes, thanks, I just saw that mail a moment ago |
| 15:11.31 | pb_ | I spent almost all of yesterday in transit, so I didn't get a chance to read my email until this morning. |
| 15:11.43 | pb_ | JimmyBondi: no |
| 15:11.44 | reenoo | koen: is that webcam stream supposed to have sound? |
| 15:12.01 | koen | no |
| 15:12.14 | florian_ | heh, i just wondered about this too ;) |
| 15:12.46 | florian_ | hrm... no subversion on that machine? :-/ |
| 15:14.40 | JimmyBondi | so till waitin for upload root and can take a look on more how-to: |
| 15:14.57 | pb_ | ah. why are you reflashing root? |
| 15:15.06 | JimmyBondi | where find i a manual for setting up serial connect 4?14¿4? |
| 15:15.23 | JimmyBondi | ?? |
| 15:15.58 | JimmyBondi | is there another way for flashing new gpe 4?14¿4? |
| 15:17.06 | florian_ | JimmyBondi: You don't need to do anything special, if you are able to upload an image you will get a login prompt on the serial console as soon as the system is up. |
| 15:18.05 | JimmyBondi | sorry - i understand not exactly (i'm from germany) |
| 15:18.14 | JimmyBondi | i have entered serial console |
| 15:18.19 | JimmyBondi | (in bootloader)# |
| 15:18.50 | JimmyBondi | now i'm uploading gpe-image to pda |
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| 15:19.33 | florian_ | JimmyBondi: okay, your question was about a serial connection to use after installation, right? |
| 15:20.13 | pb_ | hi TyggerBob |
| 15:20.17 | JimmyBondi | of course, but i can't made it now because my pda don't let me login |
| 15:20.34 | JimmyBondi | so i'm reflashing - now 0.8.1 |
| 15:22.49 | florian_ | JimmyBondi: okay... you will be asked to set the root password and a user account on first boot. As soon as you set up these you should be able to log in to your PDA using the serial port. |
| 15:23.47 | JimmyBondi | ok - i will call again when finished 4:14-) |
| 15:27.41 | rob_w|pda | hmm |
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| 16:17.54 | koen | hmmm |
| 16:18.00 | koen | 17.17 already |
| 16:18.16 | koen | net work in 7 hours: 2 paragraphs |
| 16:23.46 | pb_ | heh |
| 16:24.06 | pb_ | hm, my laptop thinks the time is 03:35 for some reason. |
| 16:24.10 | pb_ | that doesn't sound right |
| 16:24.41 | koen | 11:25 over there, right? |
| 16:24.50 | pb_ | yeah |
| 16:26.51 | koen | pb_: is xdc at the same building as hh.org? |
| 16:27.59 | pb_ | yes |
| 16:33.50 | reenoo | hrm |
| 16:35.15 | reenoo | lilo needs a #lilosservants |
| 16:46.30 | JimmyBondi | hi - i have just reinstalled gpe 0.8.0 (0.8.1 didn't work) and would like to update |
| 16:46.50 | JimmyBondi | is there any solution to do it via serial 4?14¿4? |
| 16:49.58 | pb_ | you can run ppp over serial and connect to the Internet that way |
| 16:50.52 | JimmyBondi | 4C14øøl - but how to 4?14¿4? i didn't find any word about - and what needs the host-pc 4?14¿4? |
| 16:54.52 | koen | JimmyBondi: ppphowto in the wiki |
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| 17:11.18 | JimmyBondi | 6=4=7>8>10 koen 8<7<4=6= when i try to save the file hosts i get >permission denied< |
| 17:32.21 | moray | pb_: wrong kind of EST? |
| 17:32.31 | pb_ | moray: heh, apparently |
| 17:33.34 | pb_ | some bizarre kind that's UTC-12:48 |
| 17:34.06 | moray | hrm, I knew about the AEST vs. EST confusion, but that sounds worse |
| 17:43.03 | koen|food | mallum's speech is coming up |
| 17:43.30 | koen|food | gnomemeeting to gabe.freedesktop.org for audio |
| 17:43.42 | florian | oh cool |
| 17:43.43 | koen|food | (enable g711 codec first) |
| 17:58.24 | koen | (did the webcam break?) |
| 17:58.54 | koen | kdrive as X server, uses Xfbdev |
| 17:59.01 | koen | grrrr |
| 17:59.04 | koen | wrong window |
| 18:06.34 | florian | ~lart gnomemeeting |
| 18:07.46 | koen | heh |
| 18:08.18 | koen | florian: you need to disable everything but g711-ulaw-64k codec |
| 18:08.54 | florian | koen: it fails to detect my audio hardware |
| 18:09.02 | koen | ah |
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| 18:16.16 | koen | X00, gtk wrapper around xephyr |
| 18:16.35 | koen | xoo even |
| 18:17.00 | koen | useful to 'emulate' handheld devices on your workstation |
| 18:17.12 | koen | (shows ipaq and PSP skins) |
| 18:31.15 | koen | hmmm |
| 18:31.20 | koen | not much on GPE |
| 18:31.22 | pb_ | koen: what's the latest gpe snapshot image? |
| 18:31.31 | koen | yesterdays |
| 18:31.35 | pb_ | I have one of jg's ipaqs here that he wants me to reflash |
| 18:31.38 | koen | familiar/hh.org/snapshots |
| 18:31.40 | pb_ | thanks |
| 18:31.54 | koen | pb_: I overheard you talking about it :) |
| 18:32.01 | pb_ | heh |
| 18:32.14 | reenoo | koen is watching you |
| 18:32.17 | reenoo | hehe |
| 18:32.19 | pb_ | oh, right, I was standing in the bdale zone |
| 18:32.35 | koen | heh |
| 18:32.38 | pb_ | forgot that walls (desks) have ears |
| 18:34.24 | pb_ | can you remind me what the runes are to flash from cf on h5400? |
| 18:34.40 | koen | copy hda1:filename.jffs2 root |
| 18:34.50 | koen | that automounts the cf |
| 18:35.02 | pb_ | you need some kind of insert first, right? |
| 18:35.06 | koen | no |
| 18:35.18 | pb_ | ah, ok, very good |
| 18:35.19 | koen | the copy takes care of that |
| 18:36.11 | koen | (as long hda1 is fat16) |
| 18:39.20 | pb_ | seems to be working |
| 18:39.22 | pb_ | thanks |
| 18:39.26 | koen | cool |
| 18:42.17 | florian | pb_: hah, that is fast - patience is what you need if you do this via jtag ;) |
| 18:42.37 | pb_ | florian: heh. yes, flashing rootfs with jtag would be no fun. |
| 18:42.51 | pb_ | and I didn't bring a jtag rig with me, so let's hope that isn't required |
| 18:43.04 | koen | pb_: jamey has one |
| 18:43.11 | pb_ | though I guess jamey has one upstairs |
| 18:43.13 | pb_ | heh, right |
| 18:43.38 | florian | pb_: indeed... i bricked an integral last week, only flashing the bootloader takes ages. |
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| 18:44.12 | pb_ | florian: yeah. iirc, when I used to have to unbrick ipaqs, it took about 30 minutes to flash the 256k bootldr. |
| 18:44.45 | florian | pb_: i think it takes about the same time on the integral... |
| 18:44.50 | pb_ | flashing a 24MB rootfs that way doesn't bear thinking about |
| 18:44.53 | koen | florian: gpe-aerial works very good! |
| 18:45.14 | florian | koen: cool... on which device? |
| 18:46.49 | koen | florian: corgi |
| 18:47.04 | florian | koen: okay.. which driver do you use? |
| 18:47.28 | koen | hostap-cs with a buffalo airstation cf card |
| 18:50.28 | koen | florian: is it hard to add support for 'real' images of the device in gpe-sysinfo? |
| 18:52.24 | florian | koen: no... i can add loading of a custom image. the bb would need to take care about the correct image in the package... that would be quite easy imho. |
| 18:53.18 | koen | florian: and having a set of images? |
| 18:54.01 | koen | about 5 images: oldstyle ipaqs, simpad, clamshell, sl5500 |
| 18:54.35 | koen | and one default image |
| 18:55.04 | florian | koen: right... i would like to avoid installing them all per default. |
| 18:55.28 | joshua_ | fwiw, fastjtag helps speed big time. |
| 18:56.01 | koen | florian: yeah, it only wastes flash |
| 18:56.48 | florian | koen: some postinstall section in the gpe-conf bb could copy ${MACHINE}-image.png to ${D}/usr/shar/pixmaps/custom-machine.png or something like this. |
| 18:57.02 | koen | that would work |
| 18:57.05 | florian | joshua_: oh... sounds good :-) |
| 18:57.30 | joshua_ | that said, still takes 45sec or so for 512k |
| 18:59.33 | florian | joshua_: huh, this is way faster... how does this work? have a link? |
| 18:59.34 | koen | joshua_: looks like we are using the same ipv6 pop |
| 18:59.46 | pb_ | hi joshua_ |
| 18:59.53 | koen | but over here it's only 100 miles away |
| 18:59.55 | joshua_ | heh |
| 19:00.00 | joshua_ | it's a bit farther away from here. |
| 19:08.33 | koen | mallum: nice presentation (the bits I could decipher) |
| 19:09.44 | mallum | koen: thanks |
| 19:10.00 | mallum | koen: did you get audio / video ? |
| 19:10.15 | koen | pretty much |
| 19:12.13 | mallum | cool dood |
| 19:12.30 | koen | mallum: it it on o-hand yet? |
| 19:13.18 | koen | pb_: mickeyl factored out gpe, so familiar and oz are now in sync |
| 19:15.24 | pb_ | very good |
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| 19:18.05 | pb_ | g'day dc_ |
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| 19:21.10 | mallum | koen: http://o-hand.com/xmeet |
| 19:21.15 | koen | cool |
| 19:22.30 | koen | very slick |
| 19:22.50 | koen | mallum: what did you use to create that? ooo or vi? |
| 19:23.34 | mallum | koen: emacs and http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/ |
| 19:25.15 | koen | mallum: the 'slide show title here' is cute ;) |
| 19:25.43 | mallum | heh, oops |
| 19:25.59 | mallum | ment to run it fullscreen so that would never be seen |
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| 19:41.42 | florian | koen: want to update gpe-mininet in oe? i just released version 0.5 |
| 19:42.48 | koen | florian: are the patches still neded? |
| 19:42.52 | koen | needed even |
| 19:44.13 | koen | one removes #include <linux/uio.h>, the other comments activate_networking_rules(); |
| 19:44.15 | florian | koen: no that should be fixed.. if we don't lost this... |
| 19:48.57 | hedgehair | is it possible to have opera in gpe? |
| 19:49.25 | florian | hedgehair: if you have opera for arm and X ;-) |
| 19:50.16 | hedgehair | yep, opera_arm.ipk .. just ipkg install it as usual? |
| 19:50.24 | hedgehair | thought it was just an opie/qt app |
| 19:50.36 | hedgehair | hmm |
| 19:50.50 | florian | hedgehair: i'm sure this is a qt/embedded app... that won't help you. |
| 19:51.09 | florian | qt works with X but not qt/embedded |
| 19:51.53 | florian | bbl |
| 19:52.05 | koen | florian: added mininet 0.5 |
| 20:06.39 | koen | arm-INVALID?!?! |
| 20:07.25 | pb_ | heh |
| 20:10.43 | koen | aha |
| 20:10.57 | koen | mickeyl changed that this afternoon |
| 20:37.02 | koen | mallum: mb-wm 0.9.3 is in OE now |
| 20:37.19 | koen | florian: mininet 0.5 in included in fam-0.8.1 now |
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| 20:54.35 | luc | hi all |
| 20:54.44 | koen | hey luc |
| 20:55.08 | luc | hey koen! |
| 20:55.49 | luc | florian: well done for the doc ;) |
| 20:56.27 | pb_ | hi luc |
| 20:57.05 | koen | luc: are you coming to FOSDEM? |
| 20:57.11 | luc | hi pb_ |
| 20:57.21 | luc | koen: yep! |
| 20:57.25 | koen | cool |
| 20:58.07 | luc | :) |
| 20:59.44 | luc | did anyone start documentation for libgpepimc? |
| 21:10.00 | koen | luc: the silence says it all |
| 21:12.06 | luc | koen: I got the point ;) |
| 21:12.11 | luc | I am on it |
| 21:12.18 | koen | cool |
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| 21:19.09 | hedgehair | plucker dosent work in 0.8.1 ? |
| 21:19.36 | hedgehair | hmm that was strange, the open file kept crashing |
| 21:20.41 | hedgehair | the windows are acting strange.. |
| 21:21.12 | koen | hedgehair: can you strace it? |
| 21:21.20 | mallum | koen: rock |
| 21:21.21 | hedgehair | sure |
| 21:21.24 | mallum | koen: thanks |
| 21:21.40 | mallum | koen: I put a small composite fix in svn after 0.9.3 release btw |
| 21:21.47 | koen|tv | mallum: I expect copious amount of beer in brussels ;) |
| 21:21.49 | mallum | koen|tv: it may improve things |
| 21:21.59 | mallum | koen|tv: yeah Im not 100% sure Im going to be there atm |
| 21:22.04 | koen|tv | I'll try it out next week |
| 21:22.11 | mallum | koen|tv: but if not definetly make GUADEC |
| 21:22.26 | koen|tv | damn, I wont be at guadec |
| 21:22.39 | koen|tv | won't* |
| 21:22.40 | mallum | koen|tv: well I may still make fosdem |
| 21:22.59 | koen|tv | I hope so |
| 21:25.15 | florian | re |
| 21:25.24 | florian | koen|tv: cool, thanks! |
| 21:25.32 | florian | luc: thanks :-) |
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| 21:38.05 | koen|tv | go luc!!! |
| 21:40.20 | reenoo | doh |
| 21:40.29 | vIkSiT | koen|tv, you using MMC or CF on your 5550? |
| 21:40.35 | reenoo | this program has been working all the time |
| 21:40.41 | koen|tv | vIkSiT: cf |
| 21:41.38 | vIkSiT | ah, ok |
| 21:42.13 | koen|tv | aaaarg |
| 21:42.33 | reenoo | koen|tv: hmm? |
| 21:42.46 | koen|tv | csi|lv just used 417. inside and ip address |
| 21:43.01 | koen|tv | an* |
| 21:43.11 | reenoo | heh |
| 21:43.21 | reenoo | as long as it's not 555 |
| 21:43.24 | koen|tv | that is so like "the net" |
| 21:43.49 | reenoo | (555 being the standard phone prefix in _all_ movies) |
| 21:43.59 | koen|tv | yep |
| 21:44.04 | reenoo | s/phone/phone number/ |
| 21:45.55 | moray | reenoo: well, there's a reason for that, to stop mad people who call the numbers from the movies annoying real people |
| 21:47.57 | reenoo | moray: I know. it's still pretty lame |
| 21:48.25 | moray | reenoo: in the UK, we have blocks set aside in the major cities' number regions so that they can call the right city but still a definitely-fictional number :) |
| 21:48.58 | moray | (http://www.ofcom.org.uk/licensing_numbering/numbers/num_drama?a=87101) |
| 21:50.06 | reenoo | heh. nice |
| 21:53.55 | koen|tv | luc: do you have some html sample somewhere online for the docs? |
| 21:55.37 | luc | koen|tv: no :) |
| 21:55.47 | luc | this is only empty shell so far |
| 21:56.28 | koen|tv | it would be nice to put them at gpe.handhelds.org |
| 21:57.42 | florian | I'll update that stuff i collected at our machine at kc, as soon as we have a nice pile of docs i'll add them to gpe.handhelds.org |
| 21:59.02 | luc | florian: you did see that there is already a fair amount of doc on libgpewidget at gpe.hh.org? |
| 22:04.58 | florian | luc: yes right... |
| 22:06.58 | florian | luc: that is something we need to extend too, these documents contain useful information about using libgpewidget. |
| 22:07.48 | luc | I think they should be merged into gtk-doc files |
| 22:08.18 | florian | luc: When we have the basic set of API documentation it is time to extend this... maybe to some document describing how to write a gpe application. |
| 22:08.53 | florian | luc: that might be a good idea... i think it should be easy to make charpters from these documents. |
| 22:10.23 | koen|tv | "gpe-hello" |
| 22:10.31 | koen|tv | "my first gpe app" |
| 22:10.40 | luc | I think so, GTK doc has couple of large chapters |
| 22:11.47 | florian | koen|tv: exactly... |
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| 22:37.28 | florian | re |
| 22:40.06 | koen|tv | wb |
| 22:50.01 | luc | Good night all. |
| 22:50.09 | reenoo | 'night luc |
| 22:50.29 | koen|tv | 'night luc |
| 22:51.17 | florian | luc: good night |
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| 23:24.54 | florian | hi dc__ |
| 23:29.20 | koen|tv | 'night all |
| 23:29.24 | florian | koen|tv: good night |
| 23:29.43 | reenoo | 'night koen|sleep |