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| 00:19.17 | florian | good night |
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| 02:17.13 | hedgehair | why when i install xlibx 4.2.20030122-8 then try to ipkg isntall xine_0.9.8fam2_arm.ipk ; xine still complains that it xlibs is not avaliable from any configured src ? |
| 02:17.26 | hedgehair | s/xlibx/xlibs |
| 02:20.03 | hedgehair | # ipkg install xlibs |
| 02:20.03 | hedgehair | Installing xlibs (4.2.20030122-8) to root... |
| 02:20.03 | hedgehair | ERROR: Package xlibs (parent xlibs) is not available from any configured src. |
| 02:20.03 | hedgehair | Failed to download xlibs. Perhaps you need to run 'ipkg update'? An error ocurred, return value: -1. |
| 02:20.16 | hedgehair | ? |
| 02:27.35 | hedgehair | Package xlibs wants to install file /usr/share/X11/XKeysymDB |
| 02:27.35 | hedgehair | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:18.26 | hedgehair | anyone install xine and mozilla ? |
| 03:25.39 | hedgehair | why when i isntall libgtk1.2 it dosent satisfy the dependency for any programs? |
| 03:25.52 | hedgehair | the programs that still depend on libgtk1.2 still ask for it |
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| 04:42.00 | OSS542 | question: is anyone here familiar with the syntax for keylaunchrc ? |
| 04:46.17 | OSS542 | what do the "???" mean before each line ? |
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| 09:34.58 | marcio | hi everybody |
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| 09:39.27 | mallum | hey |
| 09:45.13 | dragonk | yo |
| 09:45.16 | dragonk | wassaaap |
| 09:45.32 | dragonk | i think everyone's sleeping. or out to lunch |
| 09:46.21 | mallum | sleeping likely |
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| 10:18.43 | florian_kc | morning |
| 10:18.48 | zecke | moin |
| 10:18.50 | mallum | hey florian_kc |
| 10:24.43 | OSS542 | what time does this get active ? |
| 10:25.08 | mallum | OSS542, what do you want to know ? |
| 10:25.47 | OSS542 | was curious about the syntax for keylaunchrc... |
| 10:27.07 | florian_kc | hehe... keylaunchrc sucks |
| 10:27.40 | OSS542 | why is that ? |
| 10:28.32 | florian_kc | because of this strange syntax. |
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| 10:29.44 | florian_kc | pb_: hi |
| 10:29.51 | OSS542 | what's up with the question marks in keylaunchrc ? |
| 10:30.14 | pb_ | florian_kc: good morning! |
| 10:33.06 | florian_kc | OSS542: They stand for an arbitary char... |
| 10:33.06 | OSS542 | hello ? |
| 10:33.21 | pb_ | OSS542: hello |
| 10:34.25 | OSS542 | I thought keylaunchrc just used an asterisk to indicate a modifier....no asterisks for a plain key |
| 10:39.04 | florian_kc | eh... let me see... |
| 10:39.17 | florian_kc | s/see/check |
| 10:40.49 | florian_kc | hrm... to be honest, looking at a keylaunchrc does not really give any clue. |
| 10:41.08 | florian_kc | pb_: do you know about this? |
| 10:45.08 | OSS542 | anyone happen to know why a Zaurus should suddenly start taking 10 min to do a soft reset befor it hits the GPE intro ? |
| 10:45.53 | florian_kc | huh, that's very long... |
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| 10:49.37 | OSS542 | just started doing that |
| 10:49.59 | pb_ | florian_kc: '?' means "any modifier" |
| 10:50.24 | pb_ | as distinct from no asterisks, which means "no modifiers" |
| 10:52.04 | florian_kc | pb_: ah cool... and if there is no action defined then it defaults to "Pressed"? |
| 10:59.49 | OSS542 | hm......one of the partitions is at 100%....maybe there's some huge scratch file gumming it up..... |
| 11:05.59 | florian_kc | oh that might cause some trouble... |
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| 11:47.35 | koen | re |
| 11:49.47 | florian_kc | koen: hello |
| 11:49.52 | koen | hey florian_kc |
| 11:51.36 | florian_kc | cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff:<1>Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual ad0pgd = c3d04000 |
| 11:51.40 | florian_kc | oops |
| 11:52.25 | rob_w | florian_kc: nice ,, as harder they get as interesting they are |
| 11:55.22 | koen | mallum: did you snitch ross' password to his blog? ;) |
| 11:57.28 | mallum | koen, ah ? |
| 11:58.11 | koen | mallum: see burtonini.com |
| 11:58.28 | koen | " possibly the best boss in the world" |
| 12:15.24 | mallum | hehe |
| 12:16.04 | mallum | what a brown noser |
| 12:20.54 | pb_ | florian_kc: heh, you need to disable that bogus probing. |
| 12:21.04 | pb_ | there's an option in cs.c (iirc) for that. |
| 12:21.21 | pb_ | we patch most of our kernels to turn it off. |
| 12:22.13 | koen | does rxvt support subpixel AA? |
| 12:22.28 | pb_ | it doesn't need to. Xft does that. |
| 12:22.34 | koen | aha |
| 12:23.17 | florian_kc | pb_: oh thanks - i'll do this! |
| 12:26.23 | pb_ | ah, CONFIG_PCMCIA_PROBE is the one you need. |
| 12:26.25 | pb_ | set that to no. |
| 12:26.49 | pb_ | or change the 1 to 0 in |
| 12:26.50 | pb_ | INT_MODULE_PARM(probe_io, 1); /* IO port probe? */ |
| 12:26.52 | pb_ | that line |
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| 12:35.53 | florian_kc | pb_: many thanks... i'll try it now :-) |
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| 12:53.25 | OSS542 | is anyone out here using OpenZaurus ? |
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| 12:58.53 | bedboi | hey.. |
| 12:58.58 | bedboi | hi there |
| 12:58.59 | florian_kc | hi bedboi |
| 12:59.23 | bedboi | first day of phd exams (written exam) |
| 13:00.08 | bedboi | "Describe methods and approaches to modelize a dynamic electric system" |
| 13:00.17 | bedboi | s/modelize/model |
| 13:09.01 | florian_kc | bedboi: sounds likee fun :-) |
| 13:09.19 | bedboi | yep, quite |
| 13:23.19 | koen | the people at ITC are very funny |
| 13:23.45 | koen | me "what's that octane used for?" they: "license server" |
| 13:24.06 | florian_kc | huh! |
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| 13:25.12 | koen | the license server only runs on irix.... |
| 13:25.37 | florian_kc | heh |
| 13:26.05 | florian_kc | pb_: something turns on CONFIG_PCMCIA_PROBE after disabling it... |
| 13:27.18 | koen | nice, thalys tickets to brussels are 21 euro |
| 13:32.04 | pb_ | florian_kc: hah |
| 13:33.57 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:33.57 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:33.57 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:33.57 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:34.00 | pb_ | this is no good |
| 13:34.47 | florian_kc | pb_: i turned it off in source now... |
| 13:34.56 | pb_ | ah right |
| 13:35.21 | florian_kc | oh... lunch! |
| 13:37.59 | florian_kc | btw. another strange message: oe tell me that several modules didn't end up in an ipk... modules like pcmcia_core and friends... |
| 13:38.21 | pb_ | florian_kc: I think those are just symlinks. |
| 13:38.38 | florian_kc | ah okay... |
| 13:38.46 | pb_ | the kernel installs the modules into /lib/modules/.../kernel/drivers/pcmcia, then links them into /lib/modules/.../pcmcia (for some unknown reason) |
| 13:38.54 | pb_ | oe doesn't package the links, but it doesn't appear to matter. |
| 13:39.05 | florian_kc | okay :-) |
| 13:39.11 | florian_kc | brb |
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| 15:03.39 | florian_kc | re |
| 15:05.58 | eyck | re, |
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| 15:58.24 | OSS542 | found the nasty little problem |
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| 15:59.16 | florian_kc | OSS542: sounds bad :-/ |
| 16:00.11 | OSS542 | not great actually.....but not real bad....I was trying to create a swap file on /mnt/card the other day using dd and it ran out of room |
| 16:00.39 | OSS542 | when I went to look for the file to delete it, I couldn't find it......now I think I know where it really went |
| 16:01.02 | OSS542 | right into /mnt itself, and probably damaged the internal flash partitioning I would guess |
| 16:02.05 | florian_kc | OSS542: right... swapping to flash is never a good idea. |
| 16:02.25 | OSS542 | just have to reflash I think, and restore some config files...... |
| 16:03.20 | OSS542 | florian_kc: actually in this case it's a necessity.....but I think dd does not respect posted partition limits, and can do considerable damage if one makes a mistake with it |
| 16:04.07 | OSS542 | my internal flash stuff was almost all stock 3.5.2 distro stuff, so a reflash should be all that is needed to fix that |
| 16:09.53 | florian_kc | OSS542: right |
| 16:23.07 | florian_kc | pb_: This fixed pcmcia - many thanks! But one more question: In the old familiar based images i had the same kernel with pcmcia io probe turned on - this one worked fine. Any idea why? |
| 16:37.35 | pb_ | florian_kc: how odd. no, I have no idea. |
| 16:37.46 | pb_ | maybe cardmgr is doing something different these days. |
| 16:39.40 | koen | how would SDIO be handled? |
| 16:39.57 | koen | a cardmgr look alike or something like hotplug? |
| 16:40.17 | pb_ | probably the latter |
| 16:40.39 | pb_ | if we were reimplementing PCMCIA from scratch today, that probably wouldn't use cardmgr either. |
| 16:40.48 | koen | ah, I see |
| 16:43.35 | koen | Is there any change it will happen soon (2.7) or is linus not suffiently annoyed yet? |
| 16:44.34 | pb_ | I'm not sure. I think there's some work ongoing for that. |
| 16:46.15 | koen | ah, cardbus doesn't require it anymore |
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| 16:55.13 | hedgehair | why when i setup a reoccuring task in the calendar it dosent mark the future dates? |
| 16:57.34 | florian_kc | sounds like a missing feature... |
| 17:03.22 | hedgehair | deffinatley |
| 17:04.10 | hedgehair | erh definitely |
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| 17:05.06 | pb_ | mm, that's clearly a bug. |
| 17:05.22 | pb_ | mccarthy is the recurrencemeister. I guess you should take it up with him. |
| 17:06.02 | florian_kc | right |
| 17:06.07 | hedgehair | k, i will when i see him.. thanks |
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| 17:19.48 | koen | hey Cwiiis[uni] |
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| 17:47.30 | Cwiiis[uni] | Hey koen |
| 17:49.29 | hedgehair | where are all the ipkgs kept? |
| 17:49.32 | hedgehair | on / that is |
| 17:50.29 | koen | hedgehair: what do you mean? |
| 17:50.59 | hedgehair | like when i ipkg install blah... it downloads the ipk right, where to ? |
| 17:51.17 | koen | to /tmp iirc and it deletes it after install |
| 17:51.39 | hedgehair | hmm |
| 17:51.41 | koen | or somewhere to /var (which is a ramdisk) |
| 17:53.32 | hedgehair | somthing is using all my space and i have no idea what.. all i merged so far is firefox and its eating 31 mb ? |
| 17:54.06 | koen | merged? |
| 17:54.09 | hedgehair | LOL |
| 17:54.11 | hedgehair | sorry |
| 17:54.23 | hedgehair | merged/ipkg installed .. same idea |
| 17:54.40 | koen | firefix is pretty big |
| 17:55.18 | rob_w | how can i bitbake "clean" a package so it starts from scratch whith this package again ? |
| 17:55.34 | hedgehair | arg, and it dosent even work |
| 17:56.12 | rob_w | minimo quite works but currently suffers a annoying error , so dillo2 is also worth a try |
| 17:56.24 | koen | rob_w: bitbake -c cleen world |
| 17:56.33 | koen | ehm |
| 17:56.35 | koen | clean |
| 17:56.48 | rob_w | can i do bitbake -c -b my.bb ?? |
| 17:56.58 | hedgehair | bleh, anyone want to buy a ipaq 3765? |
| 17:57.08 | rob_w | i dont want to clean all |
| 17:57.20 | koen | rob_w: yes |
| 17:57.28 | rob_w | hedgehair: hehe , how much |
| 17:57.42 | koen|afk | bbl |
| 17:58.17 | rob_w | hedgehair: dont desperate !! u can reach a really nice working thing if u invest little time |
| 17:58.22 | hedgehair | ill get back to you.. i really want this to work |
| 17:58.47 | hedgehair | ive had this thing for months in half arse state |
| 17:59.02 | rob_w | it will , just ask ur questions here and be patient ! many people work on it |
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| 18:21.02 | dragonk | libgpewidget-0.97.tar.gz <--- anyone know where to get this? |
| 18:23.05 | florian_kc | dragonk: ftp://gpe.handhelds.org/projects/gpe/source/libgpewidget-0.97.tar.gz |
| 18:23.37 | dragonk | ah, much thankness. :) |
| 18:25.38 | florian_kc | bbl |
| 18:26.23 | dragonk | whee, it worked. touch foo.md5 as well, of course |
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| 18:31.19 | rob_w|pda | some also has to check for gpe-lock-display |
| 18:31.38 | rob_w|pda | since it doesnt show a keyboard |
| 18:33.08 | rob_w|pda | when ireached a full build ill start fixing some smaller stuff, at least ill try to |
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| 18:53.36 | hedgehair | why does rxvt crash when i open up any type of input (keyboard/let |
| 18:53.40 | hedgehair | stroke reconizer) |
| 18:53.51 | hedgehair | i tried to check /proc/cpu/alignment but nothing is in there |
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| 19:09.17 | pb_ | re |
| 19:10.07 | hedgehair | i ipkg remove firefox, and it says No packages removed, yet firefox is still in my path ? |
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| 19:12.00 | reenoo | evening |
| 19:12.14 | hedgehair | hi |
| 19:12.34 | reenoo | hi hedgehair |
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| 19:13.47 | koen | re |
| 19:13.49 | florian | re |
| 19:13.58 | koen | hey florian |
| 19:14.10 | reenoo | hi koen |
| 19:14.13 | reenoo | moin florian |
| 19:14.16 | hedgehair | arg, where did all my space go? |
| 19:14.24 | hedgehair | what ipkg command shows what is installed? |
| 19:15.03 | pb_ | ipkg status |
| 19:15.06 | pb_ | hi florian |
| 19:16.49 | florian | Anyone here who tried the hermesII driver on arm? |
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| 19:24.16 | hedgehair | im trying to run firefox but all i get is: Extension system warning: failed to set up default extensions files probably because you do not have write privileges to htis location while you can run firefox like this it is recommended that you run it at least once with provileges that allow it to generate these inital files to imporove start performance: running from a disk image on macosX is not recommended *** nsExtensionManager::_disa |
| 19:24.16 | hedgehair | bleObsoleteExtensions. Failure, catching exception so finalize window can close ? |
| 19:24.50 | pb_ | sounds like a bug |
| 19:24.54 | pb_ | try running it as root |
| 19:24.54 | Cwiiis[uni] | hedgehair: Likelihood is you installed it to a non-root installation and the post-inst didn't run because it wasn't linked to root |
| 19:25.11 | hedgehair | pb_, same |
| 19:25.45 | hedgehair | my ~/.mozilla/firefox exists thats the strange thing, what type of extensions is this talking about |
| 19:29.14 | florian | Does minimo honor $http_proxy? |
| 19:34.53 | hedgehair | why when i ipkg remove firefox it says no pakcages removed? |
| 19:37.46 | florian | sounds nasty... sounds like you did run out of space installing it... |
| 19:38.43 | hedgehair | yea prob |
| 19:38.52 | hedgehair | i dont know where all my space went |
| 19:38.59 | hedgehair | argh, feel like reflashing again |
| 19:39.57 | koen | hmmm |
| 19:40.11 | koen | I could split out a gtk dependent feed |
| 19:41.33 | koen | see ipkg for example |
| 19:42.20 | koen | oops wrong window for the last one |
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| 20:02.33 | hedgehair | koen, yes gtk dep feed would be cool |
| 20:27.53 | koen | rob_w: mail pigi |
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| 20:27.56 | rob_w | it probably is already in a todo list , right ? |
| 20:28.35 | koen | don't know |
| 20:29.02 | rob_w | koen: how is it going at itc ? |
| 20:29.26 | koen | rob_w: just got 1.5gb of data to georeference |
| 20:29.40 | koen | an a coastline of africa to vectorize |
| 20:30.05 | rob_w | hand it carefull ;-) |
| 20:30.31 | koen | yeah |
| 20:30.44 | rob_w | so u are transferring data from one to another form .. |
| 20:31.11 | koen | I converted the raw data to tiff with gdal, and will work from that |
| 20:31.59 | koen | I'll use the ASTER image to get the coast line and use that vectorfile to georef the METEOSAT |
| 20:32.16 | rob_w | u know what : i really like that topic since i am curious the possibilty to search for archeolgic structures for all over the globe |
| 20:32.54 | koen | landsat image are free for download (since it broke down in may 2003) |
| 20:33.17 | rob_w | must be like reaching another dimension and tons of things could be discoverd .. it would need a algo to find structures in the raw data or so |
| 20:34.14 | rob_w | could u programm a structure finding thing in to search for buildings or sqare`s circle`s and so ? |
| 20:34.55 | koen | that part wouldnt be too hard for some with coding experience |
| 20:35.12 | koen | the real trick is to choose the right combination on bands |
| 20:35.43 | rob_w | what do u mean by this ? |
| 20:35.49 | koen | most satelites have 10 bands (RGB, R, G , B , near IR, IR , far IR) |
| 20:36.07 | rob_w | ah ok |
| 20:36.40 | rob_w | probably IR is not the best for inactive ( not warm ) things to find .. like this ? |
| 20:37.21 | koen | IR is usefull for finding vegetation, since plants reflect IR very wel |
| 20:37.24 | koen | well* |
| 20:38.00 | rob_w | oh ,, and most structures are hidding below vegetation .. so maybe .. |
| 20:38.21 | koen | and it could yield more contrast |
| 20:39.03 | koen | I once use a funky bank combo, IR, UV and another that made asphalt bright yellow and building grey |
| 20:39.13 | rob_w | very interessting things , i am just wondering how good all earth is covered yet |
| 20:39.31 | koen | very good (when you have the money) |
| 20:39.49 | rob_w | damn as always |
| 20:40.03 | koen | you can order quickbird imagery (60cm/pixel in the panchromatic band) for $60/km2 |
| 20:40.06 | rob_w | ~ibot lart money |
| 20:40.16 | koen | with a mininum of 100km2 |
| 20:41.11 | rob_w | 60cm/pixel us quite a bit too ... expensive |
| 20:41.49 | koen | see http://homepages.ge.ucl.ac.uk/~peales/eodata/eodata.html for a comparison |
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| 20:42.51 | rob_w|pda | ilovegpe |
| 20:43.28 | koen | me too :) |
| 20:44.09 | rob_w|pda | koen: that can really intersting,i am reading about ancients alot |
| 20:45.20 | rob_w|pda | and man there are things u will not believe at the beginning |
| 20:46.54 | rob_w|pda | those data brutal , if u can get a hand on it |
| 20:47.45 | koen | rob_w|pda: I can only get landsat, and I have to apply for that |
| 20:48.57 | rob_w|pda | hmm so we would need to choose the area carefully |
| 20:49.54 | rob_w|pda | but for an archelocil things. sounds |
| 20:50.33 | koen | and hope for sunny weather with no clouds |
| 20:50.33 | koen | ~stab clouds |
| 20:50.35 | ibot | ACTION runs at clouds with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 20:50.35 | koen | rob_w|pda: see http://landsat.gsfc.nasa.gov/data/Browse/Comparisons/L7_BandComparison.html for more about band combos |
| 20:53.01 | koen | rob_w|pda: try out nasa worldwind (windows only for the moment) to see what landsat can do for europe and aerial photo's for america |
| 20:53.44 | koen | http://worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/ |
| 20:55.08 | rob_w|pda | why windows? |
| 20:55.16 | koen | C# and directx |
| 20:55.27 | koen | but they are looking at C++/opengl |
| 20:57.37 | koen|afk | bbl |
| 21:03.18 | florian | pb_: " error while loading shared libraries: libgcc_s.so.1" |
| 21:03.31 | florian | pb_: that's current simpad image from oe cvs |
| 21:17.27 | florian | koen: wb |
| 21:17.34 | koen | hey florian |
| 21:17.48 | florian | mallum: there isn't a release of gconf-dbus? |
| 21:37.22 | *** join/#gpe TyggerBob (Default@CPE00045a265f64-CM000f9f7c58fa.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 21:37.40 | koen | hey TyggerBob |
| 21:37.53 | TyggerBob | Heya Koen |
| 21:38.21 | TyggerBob | Class got out early today.. |
| 21:38.33 | florian | hi TyggerBob |
| 21:38.37 | TyggerBob | got to come home and clean the garage out so I could get the minivan in. |
| 21:38.48 | TyggerBob | we've had two days of freezing rain. |
| 21:38.51 | TyggerBob | HI florian |
| 21:42.15 | TyggerBob | so.. I can get prismstumbler to detect the AP's with the atmel card, but not to hop |
| 21:43.05 | TyggerBob | so, if I do a iwconfig wlan0 mode monitor, and an iwconfig wlan0 channel 9, PS will pick up any nearby AP's on channel 9, but not others. |
| 21:44.17 | rob_w | TyggerBob: something also change with priviliges on running the device in that modes .. now user is not able to |
| 21:44.18 | florian | TyggerBob: sounds like channel switching does not work... do you get any output from prismstumbler? |
| 21:44.46 | TyggerBob | Rob_w : I was running it as root, |
| 21:44.57 | TyggerBob | florian, you mean errors? |
| 21:44.59 | TyggerBob | no.. |
| 21:45.05 | rob_w | right |
| 21:47.12 | rob_w | TyggerBob: maybe direclty issuing iwconfig wlan0 channel disables the channel hopping |
| 21:47.30 | TyggerBob | I wasn't doing it before.. |
| 21:47.51 | TyggerBob | I did the iwconfig wlan0 channel 9 to test to see if PS was actually getting any data from the atmel card |
| 21:48.02 | TyggerBob | I can change it manually.. |
| 21:48.07 | TyggerBob | hrm.. |
| 21:48.29 | florian | TyggerBob: maybe a remaining bug in the driver... which driver setting did you use? |
| 21:48.35 | *** join/#gpe nick5 (~a@82-41-232-227.cable.ubr07.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 21:48.44 | TyggerBob | florian, is there a way to have PS just listen to whatever channel the card is on, rather than hop or listen to a particular channel? |
| 21:48.48 | TyggerBob | hostap |
| 21:49.02 | nick5 | can someone please help me with the following error: |
| 21:49.06 | nick5 | SIGSERV 11* segmentation violation |
| 21:49.06 | nick5 | si_signo [11]: SIGSERV 11* segmentation violation |
| 21:49.06 | nick5 | si_errno [0]: Success |
| 21:49.06 | nick5 | si_code [1]: SEGV_MAPERR [addr: 0x8] |
| 21:49.06 | nick5 | stackpointer=0xbd1ff320 |
| 21:49.45 | *** join/#gpe rob_w|pda (~foo@p83.129.173.247.tisdip.tiscali.de) |
| 21:50.18 | rob_w|pda | wow, 1400euro for a coffee machine |
| 21:52.03 | rob_w|pda | that has a "active coffee bean watch mechnism" |
| 21:52.13 | rob_w|pda | scary |
| 21:52.41 | florian | TyggerBob: hmm... just configure this channel. it shouldn't switch to a different one then because it does not read back the current channel. |
| 21:52.59 | florian | nick5: oh where did you get this? |
| 21:53.36 | rob_w|pda | florian: so call it a feature |
| 21:53.41 | TyggerBob | florian, what I was thinking was to have a shell script to manually hop using iwconfig wlan0 channel x in a loop |
| 21:54.35 | rob_w|pda | wasnt the scanners like ps do that by themselves |
| 21:55.00 | TyggerBob | florian: is the call that PS is doing to hop channels the same as a iwconfig wlan0 channel X? |
| 21:55.48 | nick5 | florian: I am running a java program on my ipaq with familiar linux 0.7.2. Sometimes i get this error some other times i don't |
| 21:56.01 | nick5 | by the way, it runs fine on my pc! |
| 21:57.37 | reenoo | nick5: what vm? |
| 21:57.37 | rob_w|pda | java, i also have an open point with that |
| 21:58.11 | florian | TyggerBob: right... the hostap mode should exactly do this. i thought... |
| 21:59.07 | nick5 | is there a way that this has to do with me logging as root rather than user? |
| 21:59.54 | florian | nick5: i don't know that much about java, but it sounds like something dies from accessing some memory it is not allowed to access. |
| 22:00.18 | TyggerBob | hrm.. |
| 22:00.27 | TyggerBob | that's what Dragorn said about kismet too.. |
| 22:00.40 | florian | i wonder if this is a debog message from the machine about itself or about the program... |
| 22:01.24 | reenoo | florian: stuff like that cannot happen in a java app |
| 22:01.28 | nick5 | florian: i looked on the web and it seems that other have the same problem with java blackdown/familiar ipaq |
| 22:01.44 | nick5 | i run the same program on my pc and it runs fine |
| 22:02.18 | reenoo | florian: it indicates a flaw in the VM or the native libs interfacing code (JNI) |
| 22:02.18 | rob_w|pda | sounds like out of memory again |
| 22:02.51 | florian | reenoo: that is what i guessed... |
| 22:03.02 | rob_w|pda | is there a working vm for familiar now |
| 22:03.16 | nick5 | someone suggested that you could use a new lib6 module?! |
| 22:03.24 | nick5 | or he was searching for one... |
| 22:03.34 | florian | sounds like blackdown is not that stable on arm :/ |
| 22:03.57 | reenoo | rob_w|pda: sablevm kind of works |
| 22:04.39 | rob_w|pda | reenoo: can u point me to it? |
| 22:04.42 | nick5 | and the funny thing is that sometimes it produces the error some other times it runs fine!! |
| 22:05.14 | reenoo | rob_w|pda: ipkg install sablevm |
| 22:05.25 | rob_w|pda | nick5: one more that points to bad memory usages |
| 22:05.32 | rob_w|pda | reenoo: oh |
| 22:05.57 | reenoo | (assuming koen|tv's world build caught it...) |
| 22:06.13 | nick5 | reenoo: what java version is stablevm? |
| 22:06.52 | *** join/#gpe PaxAnima (~petter@bacchus.pvv.ntnu.no) |
| 22:07.01 | florian | hi PaxAnima |
| 22:07.06 | reenoo | nick5: depends on what you mean by java |
| 22:09.13 | reenoo | the vm should be comparable to a java 2 vm |
| 22:10.23 | rob_w|pda | how is it called again? |
| 22:11.56 | reenoo | sablevm? |
| 22:12.55 | rob_w|pda | hmm maybe i use outdated feeds |
| 22:13.44 | reenoo | I haven't checked if it made it into the feeds. I don't see a reason why it wouldn't have, but you never know... |
| 22:17.07 | rob_w|pda | ill check back, cu |
| 22:25.05 | *** join/#gpe zap_ (~zap@217.170.93.196) |
| 22:25.23 | mallum | florian, not sure |
| 22:27.12 | florian | mallum: looks like it is only in this gconf-dbus branch... |
| 22:35.42 | TyggerBob | florian, theoretically, this should hop the channel every second, right? |
| 22:35.42 | TyggerBob | #!/bin/sh |
| 22:35.43 | TyggerBob | iwconfig $1 mode monitor |
| 22:35.43 | TyggerBob | while [ 1 != 0 ] |
| 22:35.43 | TyggerBob | do |
| 22:35.43 | TyggerBob | for a in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 |
| 22:35.44 | TyggerBob | do |
| 22:35.46 | TyggerBob | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:35.50 | TyggerBob | sleep 1 |
| 22:35.52 | TyggerBob | done |
| 22:37.29 | florian | looks good... but i'm not that good in shell scripting |
| 22:38.41 | koen|tv | I think seq would be the most portable option |
| 22:39.19 | koen|tv | (that's what I have been told by the local unix guru's) |
| 22:41.09 | TyggerBob | koen|tv, do you have an example? |
| 22:42.05 | TyggerBob | never mind.. |
| 22:42.09 | TyggerBob | seq 1 11 |
| 22:42.56 | koen|tv | for i in `seq 1 11` ;do |
| 22:44.00 | TyggerBob | ahhh.. cool |
| 22:44.12 | koen|tv | there was a shorter way, but I seem to have deleted my handy script dir |
| 22:45.43 | TyggerBob | I got kismet to run without hopping, and I'm using my lame hopping script to change the channel every second. |
| 22:46.11 | TyggerBob | I guess I need to write a C program using usleep to make it faster |
| 22:46.17 | TyggerBob | eek.. programming |
| 22:47.47 | koen|tv | TyggerBob: does busybox sleep support fp args? |
| 22:47.59 | koen|tv | I can do sleep 0.1 on my workstation |
| 22:48.42 | TyggerBob | Nope |
| 22:48.52 | TyggerBob | BusyBox v1.00 (2005.01.10-15:07+0000) multi-call binary |
| 22:49.02 | TyggerBob | Usage: sleep N |
| 22:49.16 | TyggerBob | hrm.. is the real sleep around somewhere? |
| 22:49.25 | koen|tv | ah yes, it didn't even support the h m and s things |
| 22:49.29 | koen|tv | TyggerBob: coreutils |
| 22:49.55 | TyggerBob | with --force-overwrite |
| 22:50.14 | TyggerBob | :) |
| 22:50.18 | koen|tv | TyggerBob: extract sleep from coreutils manually to save space |
| 22:51.27 | koen|tv | florian: any luck with gconf-dbus? |
| 22:51.45 | TyggerBob | hrm.. familiar.handhelds.org down? |
| 22:52.05 | florian | koen|tv: not yet, still waiting for some other stuff to compile.... |
| 22:52.13 | TyggerBob | I get connection refused |
| 22:53.09 | koen|tv | TyggerBob: same here |
| 22:53.22 | TyggerBob | is there another feed? |
| 22:53.41 | koen|tv | ftp.handhelds.org/distributions/familiar/..... |
| 22:54.47 | TyggerBob | well.. whatever it was, it's working again |
| 22:55.08 | koen|tv | I guess jamey or france were messing with apache to test bugzilla |
| 22:55.21 | koen|tv | 23:54 <@france> before folks ask, yes we are working on the hh.org website. |
| 22:55.22 | koen|tv | 23:55 <@france> it may be up or down for brief moments. |
| 22:56.57 | TyggerBob | thanks florian |
| 22:57.02 | TyggerBob | thanks, koen|tv |
| 22:57.05 | TyggerBob | works like a charm |
| 22:57.17 | florian | heh cool |
| 23:13.21 | koen|tv | which are faster big endian hamster or little endian ones? |
| 23:14.02 | florian | hmm.. imho big endian :-) |
| 23:33.28 | florian | ~lart autotools |
| 23:34.00 | koen|tv | heh |
| 23:34.51 | florian | is there an "oe-way" to run autogen.sh? |
| 23:35.19 | koen|tv | inherit autotools |
| 23:36.06 | florian | yes.. i do this |
| 23:36.32 | florian | s/do/did |
| 23:36.48 | koen|tv | bitbake -D -D -D -b bla.bb |
| 23:38.09 | koen|tv | that should yield some more clues |
| 23:39.11 | reenoo | inherit autotools doesn't necessarily result in the same behaviour as the autogen.sh that comes with the package |
| 23:40.10 | reenoo | it runs autoreconf which regenerates *everything* from sources |
| 23:40.42 | koen|tv | that might be why gdal fails to build |
| 23:41.13 | reenoo | every package whose authors failed to grok how autotools work will fail |
| 23:41.30 | koen|tv | about 90%? |
| 23:42.24 | reenoo | dunno. the problem is with manually edited .in files if a .ac is present |
| 23:43.49 | florian | do_configure_prepend() { |
| 23:43.49 | florian | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:43.49 | florian | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:44.14 | koen|tv | the '[' |
| 23:44.21 | florian | right :-) |
| 23:47.15 | reenoo | koen|tv: let me correct that... it's as simple as losing manual changes to autotools generated files actually. stuff like that has to break |
| 23:49.14 | reenoo | well |
| 23:49.30 | reenoo | I fail to understand how anyone can expect that approach to work |
| 23:49.42 | koen|tv | true |
| 23:58.57 | florian | *gnaa* |
| 23:59.50 | florian | now i have a patch to fix configure.in... it applies but oe tells ms it didn't apply :-/ |