| 00:01.43 | pigeon | this is so funny when i think about it |
| 00:01.52 | pigeon | from saying i want to try gnomemeeting last night |
| 00:02.05 | pigeon | to building gnome libs |
| 00:02.18 | pigeon | and then rebuilding pango |
| 00:02.45 | pigeon | then xrender, xlib, fontconfig, to now, freetype. |
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| 00:03.57 | dc___ | hehe |
| 00:04.03 | dc___ | pigeon: how it goes |
| 00:04.13 | pigeon | building newer version of freetype now |
| 00:04.20 | pigeon | so far so good |
| 00:04.22 | dc___ | so I guess I need to put my new uber frequencies into mythtv database |
| 00:04.55 | dc___ | the via xine has pvr built in :] |
| 00:06.41 | dc___ | eh, stow? |
| 00:07.15 | pigeon | it helps you to manage manually installed/built stuff. |
| 00:07.29 | dc___ | ooh |
| 00:07.30 | dc___ | fun |
| 00:08.00 | pigeon | so instead of everything in /usr/local, i install things in /opt/freetype2, /opt/blah ,etc |
| 00:08.11 | dc___ | uber |
| 00:08.13 | dc___ | hrm |
| 00:08.20 | pigeon | then run stow to "install" them to /usr/local, it symlinks stuff to the right place. |
| 00:08.26 | dc___ | oh! mythtv compile |
| 00:08.41 | dc___ | pigeon: souds pretty smart |
| 00:08.57 | pigeon | yeah, it's pretty neat. |
| 00:08.59 | dc___ | pigeon: hugging symlinks could be dangerous though |
| 00:09.04 | pigeon | i love it. |
| 00:09.07 | pigeon | heh |
| 00:09.09 | dc___ | :] |
| 00:09.19 | pigeon | i'm even using stow for my crosscompiling tree now |
| 00:09.47 | dc___ | yay |
| 00:09.54 | pigeon | hehehehe |
| 00:11.46 | dc___ | uuuuuuber |
| 00:12.27 | pigeon | doh. didn't help. |
| 00:12.32 | dc___ | :[ |
| 00:13.10 | dc___ | baaahhh. I need mpeg2 hardware decoding before I can pvr and compile at the same time. |
| 00:13.46 | pb_ | sounds like you should compile on a different machine |
| 00:13.57 | dc___ | can't on ppc :/ |
| 00:14.03 | dc___ | and crosscompiling is evil |
| 00:14.06 | pb_ | ah, yeah |
| 00:14.06 | dc___ | or hard. rather. |
| 00:14.25 | dc___ | I will record it with the uber mpeg2 encoding and watch it later. |
| 00:14.40 | pb_ | heh |
| 00:15.09 | pigeon | dc___: hmm, what exactly is this "uber" thing you keep saying? |
| 00:15.15 | dc___ | hehe, I can replay an rewind the tv. |
| 00:15.24 | dc___ | pigeon: not sure. it's just some word. |
| 00:15.29 | pigeon | ha! |
| 00:15.31 | dc___ | german I think |
| 00:15.54 | pigeon | sounds uuuuber! |
| 00:16.23 | dc___ | uuuber |
| 00:16.24 | dc___ | yay |
| 00:16.48 | pigeon | i like how babelfish translate "uber" for german into "more uber" for english. |
| 00:17.13 | dc___ | haha |
| 00:17.14 | dc___ | uber |
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| 00:26.40 | pigeon | sigh |
| 00:31.16 | pigeon | ah, back to the gnome world again. |
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| 00:32.34 | dc___ | in the normal auto* program where do you define the include paths? |
| 00:32.44 | pigeon | libbonoboui |
| 00:32.51 | dc___ | or not. |
| 00:32.58 | dc___ | hehe |
| 00:33.11 | pigeon | dc___: hmm|? |
| 00:33.12 | pb_ | dc___: they'd normally be added to CFLAGS by pkg-config. |
| 00:33.20 | dc___ | right. |
| 00:33.40 | dc___ | I guess I could just pop my .h files straight into /usr/include/ though? |
| 00:34.29 | pigeon | sounds like i need to setup a script that does wget, tar jxvf, cd into it, ./configure, cmake, cmake install :\ |
| 00:34.50 | pb_ | dc___: yup, probably |
| 00:34.50 | dc___ | ooh. |
| 00:34.59 | dc___ | everything happens from tomorrow. |
| 00:35.08 | dc___ | I net a new handset, and I have a job next week. |
| 00:35.16 | dc___ | installing a network with wifi etc.. |
| 00:35.25 | dc___ | for 10 pounds an hour. |
| 00:35.43 | dc___ | not bad for my age ;D |
| 00:36.02 | pigeon | what's the job? |
| 00:36.09 | dc___ | installing a network with wifi etc.. |
| 00:36.16 | pigeon | ah, that. |
| 00:36.19 | dc___ | wiring, setting up adsl routers. |
| 00:36.30 | dc___ | and playing. |
| 00:36.35 | dc___ | with routers that is |
| 00:36.42 | pigeon | w00t |
| 00:37.41 | pb_ | cool |
| 00:39.05 | pigeon | oh, crap. |
| 00:39.12 | dc___ | ? |
| 00:39.39 | pigeon | fonts in gtk seems all screwed now. |
| 00:40.26 | pb_ | sounds ominous |
| 00:40.57 | dc___ | I can plug in my webcam to the htpc |
| 00:41.01 | dc___ | then take a picture of the room |
| 00:41.11 | dc___ | then make hotspots on the couches. |
| 00:41.22 | dc___ | then when no one is in the room the htcp will turn off. |
| 00:41.24 | dc___ | hwo funny. |
| 00:41.28 | dc___ | except. |
| 00:41.35 | dc___ | it can never be tested. |
| 00:41.37 | dc___ | ! |
| 00:41.40 | pb_ | heh, yes, that'd be neat. |
| 00:41.57 | dc___ | just make sure no one moves the room around |
| 00:41.58 | dc___ | hehe |
| 00:42.02 | pigeon | ah, good old pango-querymodules |
| 00:42.45 | pigeon | quite sure you can test it somehow. |
| 00:42.53 | dc___ | invisible people |
| 00:43.19 | dc___ | oh doh. nah. can't really work. the cats sit on the couches sometimes. |
| 00:43.32 | dc___ | maybe when the lights are turned off it can turn off. heh. |
| 00:43.41 | pigeon | remember the invisible boy who is visible when no one is looking at him? ;) |
| 00:43.56 | dc___ | pigeon: right.... |
| 00:44.32 | pigeon | gee... i wonder what is gnome-keyring |
| 00:44.55 | dc___ | hrm. I wonder if there's a gnome coffee timer applet |
| 00:45.22 | dc___ | it's not an electric one, we have an AGA. |
| 00:46.25 | pigeon | dependencies wonder, almost. |
| 00:47.56 | pigeon | sounds like i need to upgrade my gtk/glib/etc |
| 00:48.25 | pigeon | even more sigh |
| 00:51.43 | dc___ | :-\ |
| 00:51.49 | dc___ | cpu is very hot |
| 00:52.11 | pigeon | what is an htpc again? |
| 00:52.21 | dc___ | home theatre pc |
| 00:52.30 | dc___ | took me 10 years to find that out. |
| 00:52.54 | pigeon | 10 years |
| 00:53.17 | dc___ | right, maybe, 3 days |
| 00:53.53 | pigeon | have you ever seen/watched/read dragon ball the japanese comic? |
| 00:54.06 | dc___ | I've watched the anime |
| 00:54.12 | dc___ | and seen the comic in the stores |
| 00:54.15 | dc___ | it's silly. |
| 00:54.22 | dc___ | and they say yatta! a lot |
| 00:54.45 | dc___ | pigeon: why ;)? |
| 00:55.56 | pb_ | how... primitive |
| 00:56.48 | pigeon | you know they have a special room for training, and it's like 10 days in that room, equals to 1 day in the real world, something like that. |
| 00:57.01 | pigeon | i can't remember the exact number. |
| 00:57.06 | dc___ | ah-ha |
| 00:57.08 | dc___ | indeed, hehe |
| 00:57.24 | pigeon | so, maybe you need a room, 3 days in the real world, 10 years in the room :) |
| 00:57.39 | dc___ | uber |
| 00:59.07 | pigeon | ah, here we go. |
| 00:59.14 | pigeon | "Room of Spirit and Time" |
| 00:59.27 | pigeon | "The Room of Spirit and Time is the ultimate training room. One day in the normal world is a full year when within the Room, which is very useful when the time for training runs out. There is only one building within the whole room, and it is very hot inside. In all directions from the building stretch a vast white expanse of nothingness. It is very easy to go insane while inside." |
| 00:59.50 | pigeon | hmm, i didn't remember it's that long in the room, but anyway. |
| 01:03.54 | dc___ | doh |
| 01:04.12 | dc___ | compiling, compiling... |
| 01:04.15 | dc___ | waiting, waiting... |
| 01:04.19 | pigeon | same here |
| 01:05.42 | pigeon | ah, c++, that explains the compile time. |
| 01:06.29 | dc___ | yay |
| 01:06.30 | dc___ | tea |
| 01:07.36 | pigeon | i didn't say tea :P |
| 01:08.00 | dc___ | doh |
| 01:08.04 | dc___ | water, yay. |
| 01:08.21 | pigeon | ;) |
| 01:15.11 | pigeon | ... |
| 01:15.15 | pigeon | now i need openldap |
| 01:15.23 | dc___ | ! |
| 01:15.30 | dc___ | pigeon: you need everying! |
| 01:15.34 | dc___ | yay |
| 01:15.38 | pigeon | i certainly do. |
| 01:16.49 | pigeon | rachmaninoff always touches my heart. |
| 01:17.32 | dc___ | pigeon: you have a mythtv db? |
| 01:17.40 | pigeon | dc___: yeah |
| 01:18.01 | dc___ | can you tell me what you have in the freqid column in the channel table. |
| 01:18.39 | pigeon | hmm, they are the channel number here. |
| 01:18.53 | dc___ | any ideas where the frequencies are? |
| 01:19.16 | dc___ | hrm, if they're channel nums, what's in channum then? |
| 01:19.32 | pigeon | with mine, all channum are the same as freqid |
| 01:20.08 | pigeon | and chanid are from 1000, then 1001, 1002 |
| 01:20.17 | pigeon | hmm, i use xmltv with myth... |
| 01:21.17 | pigeon | it might be getting from the australia frequency table for me, i'm not sure. |
| 01:21.31 | dc___ | ah |
| 01:21.53 | dc___ | so channum and freqid are just like 1, 2, 3, 4 ? |
| 01:22.07 | pigeon | yeah |
| 01:22.20 | pigeon | like, channel 7 in australia, is 7 |
| 01:28.57 | pigeon | ah |
| 01:29.04 | pigeon | guess what, i'm finally building gnomemeeting |
| 01:29.19 | pb_ | yay |
| 01:29.21 | dc___ | wow |
| 01:29.23 | dc___ | uber pigeon |
| 01:29.42 | dc___ | australian tv is. well. not as good as uk. |
| 01:29.48 | dc___ | especially the ads |
| 01:29.50 | dc___ | ! |
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| 01:29.58 | pigeon | heh |
| 01:30.14 | pigeon | dnathief_: don't steal my dna, please! |
| 01:30.22 | dc___ | ahhh |
| 01:35.56 | pigeon | http://latteier.com/pigeoncam/ |
| 01:36.01 | pigeon | that is soooooo uuuuber |
| 01:36.57 | dc___ | hahahahaa |
| 01:37.02 | dc___ | now that IS uber |
| 01:37.09 | dc___ | that pigeon looks so proud |
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| 01:38.11 | dc___ | blahhhh |
| 01:38.17 | dc___ | hardware decoding still not workin |
| 01:38.20 | dc___ | evils |
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| 01:43.22 | pigeon | dc___: i was so scared to see the photo of that girl in the gnomemeeting about dialog. |
| 01:43.36 | reenoo | heh |
| 01:43.53 | pigeon | i was so prepared to scream. |
| 01:44.03 | dc___ | omfg |
| 01:44.07 | dc___ | hehe |
| 01:44.09 | reenoo | hehe |
| 01:44.10 | dc___ | you bet. |
| 01:54.47 | pigeon | all set. |
| 01:54.59 | pigeon | now all i have to do is wait for my gf to test. |
| 01:56.26 | reenoo | heh |
| 01:56.41 | dc___ | ! |
| 01:56.41 | dc___ | heh |
| 01:56.50 | dc___ | hang on. |
| 01:56.55 | dc___ | when did you start this pigeon? |
| 01:57.07 | pigeon | or unless anyone of you here can test gnomemeeting with me :) |
| 01:57.11 | pigeon | dc___: hmm? |
| 01:57.19 | dc___ | yesterday? |
| 01:57.27 | dc___ | I only have dialup speeds upstream |
| 01:57.30 | pigeon | last night, yes, gnomemeeting. |
| 01:57.32 | dc___ | so it's kind of pointless :-/ |
| 01:57.38 | dc___ | heh. time goes fast. |
| 01:57.59 | gdsx | hrm... any idea when gpe-package2 or gpe-filemanager2 will start working again? |
| 01:58.42 | pigeon | and i've built pwlib libgnomeui gnome-keyring libbonoboui libbonobo gnomeui gnomecanvas fontconfig gnomemimedata gnomevfs libgnome libart gconf orbit libidl libxml2 and finally gnomemeeting. |
| 01:58.58 | pigeon | it's so easy! |
| 01:59.05 | pigeon | rofl |
| 02:01.44 | dc___ | what's the apt command to show the version of a package isntalled? |
| 02:01.58 | reenoo | dpkg -l package |
| 02:02.20 | dc___ | thanks |
| 02:02.26 | pigeon | this guy on orkut is funny |
| 02:02.27 | gdsx | or apt-cache policy <package> |
| 02:02.34 | pigeon | his about is: "about me:I'm a big fan of the public library, PowerPoint, and pigeons." |
| 02:02.50 | pigeon | powerpoint... -.- |
| 02:03.17 | pigeon | i'm a big fan of power cord and power board! |
| 02:08.56 | dc___ | hrm, anyone know the X benchmark command? |
| 02:09.17 | pigeon | x benchmark? |
| 02:09.26 | pb_ | xperf? |
| 02:09.51 | dc___ | something that gives me something like |
| 02:10.01 | dc___ | (II) via(0): Benchmarking video copy. Less is better. |
| 02:10.01 | dc___ | (--) via(0): Timed libc YUV420 copy... 6864937. Throughput: 64.5 MiB/s. |
| 02:10.01 | dc___ | (--) via(0): Timed kernel YUV420 copy... 6851100. Throughput: 64.6 MiB/s. |
| 02:10.01 | dc___ | (--) via(0): Ditch SSE YUV420 copy... Not supported by CPU. |
| 02:10.02 | dc___ | etc.. |
| 02:11.28 | gdsx | hrm... did anyone see my question? |
| 02:12.01 | dc___ | ... |
| 02:12.15 | dc___ | oh. |
| 02:12.18 | dc___ | right. |
| 02:12.37 | dc___ | gdsx: you'll have to wait till after may for gpe-filemanager |
| 02:12.41 | dc___ | that's when my exams finish. |
| 02:13.05 | pigeon | dc___: that seems to be some via epia specific benchmarking thing? |
| 02:13.10 | gdsx | hrm |
| 02:13.35 | dc___ | ah |
| 02:13.52 | gdsx | dc___: hrm... just ran it on a term |
| 02:13.55 | gdsx | gpe-filemanager: error while loading shared libraries: libbonobo-activation.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 02:14.42 | dc___ | not sure what that's about |
| 02:14.54 | dc___ | I didn't even know it used bonobo-activation |
| 02:17.34 | pb_ | it doesn't. it's a libtool screwup. |
| 02:18.47 | dc___ | :-/ |
| 02:22.13 | pb_ | I keep meaning to fix it, but never quite get time. |
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| 02:28.58 | reenoo | I'm off to bed. 'night all |
| 02:29.07 | pigeon | nite reenoo |
| 02:29.24 | dc___ | night |
| 02:29.33 | dc___ | I don't think I'll ever sleep |
| 02:29.46 | pb_ | heh |
| 02:29.52 | pb_ | hrm |
| 02:30.00 | dc___ | doh |
| 02:30.08 | pigeon | ouch |
| 02:30.10 | pb_ | all of a sudden, suexec is broken. |
| 02:31.50 | dc___ | doh! |
| 02:32.03 | pb_ | it's very strange. |
| 02:32.27 | dc___ | a new epia kernel patch got realease JUST then |
| 02:32.30 | dc___ | how fun. |
| 02:32.50 | pb_ | heh |
| 02:36.21 | pb_ | oh well, apache seems to be randomly working again now. |
| 02:36.37 | pb_ | thank god I'm not a webmaster. |
| 02:37.30 | dc___ | quite |
| 02:37.31 | dc___ | hrm |
| 02:37.41 | pigeon | pb_: now you are! |
| 02:37.48 | dc___ | lets hope this new kernel gives more better hardware decoding support |
| 02:42.32 | pigeon | hmm... new kernel... yum... |
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