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| 00:01.00 | jsmanrique | hi again |
| 00:01.44 | jsmanrique | what are the advantages for end user of GPE over OPIE? |
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| 00:20.56 | jsmanrique | hello |
| 00:21.04 | jsmanrique | someone has said anything? |
| 00:44.46 | jsmanrique | anyone here? |
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| 01:38.47 | Tyg-Upstairs | Happy New Year, all |
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| 10:38.00 | drbyte | is there a pdf reader for GPE ? |
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| 13:32.48 | drbyte | is there a pdf reader for GPE ? |
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| 13:59.24 | Debolaz | Bah, now gpe crashes when trying to playback a memo again. |
| 14:23.58 | drbyte | Debolaz: it seemed to work not long ago. it crashed once, but the second time around it worked. no idea why ;) |
| 14:26.34 | Debolaz | I'm ok with it not working, but I'm very puzzled why it takes gpe down the drain with it. |
| 14:31.21 | drbyte | i've only been able to reproduce this once |
| 14:31.39 | drbyte | so its not "reproducible" :P |
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| 14:55.40 | Debolaz | drbyte: Actually, the thing about it not working seems to be esd not being started (Just recalled that). But it still crashes, even when that's started (It'll play the memo though :o) |
| 15:00.25 | drbyte | Debolaz: for me, it crashed right after playing said memo |
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| 19:06.00 | Tyg_WkSlp | Hi |
| 19:07.59 | tmbg37 | yo |
| 19:08.39 | TyggerBob | Hey tmbg37 |
| 19:08.45 | TyggerBob | Can you do me a favour? |
| 19:08.54 | tmbg37 | uh, sure |
| 19:09.08 | TyggerBob | I reflashed my ipaq and forgot to backup my .desktop files and the intwifi scripts.. I'm to lazy to recreate them. |
| 19:09.21 | TyggerBob | could you fire them over in a /msg? |
| 19:09.28 | tmbg37 | sure |
| 19:10.23 | tmbg37 | i changed the scripts a bit |
| 19:10.36 | tmbg37 | but not too much |
| 19:10.53 | TyggerBob | are they better? :) |
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| 19:11.17 | tmbg37 | well, just stuff like the ssid and WEP key |
| 19:11.39 | tmbg37 | and i used dhcpcd rather than manually setting the IP |
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| 19:15.59 | TyggerBob | Ok.. |
| 19:16.01 | TyggerBob | Thanks |
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| 21:22.35 | florian | hi all |
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| 21:23.05 | jsmanrique | hi |
| 21:23.41 | florian | hi jsmanrique |
| 21:24.30 | jsmanrique | what are the advantages of gpe over opie? |
| 21:24.35 | jsmanrique | florian: hi |
| 21:24.59 | jsmanrique | convince me :-) |
| 21:25.16 | florian | jsmanrique: mostly the design - we use standard progrmming interfaces (look at freedesktop.org) |
| 21:26.07 | florian | jsmanrique: the xserver does much for hardware abstraction and is a pretty well tested and common system. |
| 21:26.59 | jsmanrique | what about fb vs X? |
| 21:27.16 | florian | jsmanrique: sqlite is much faster and easier to use for data storage (im particular for larger databases because you don't need to parse your data) |
| 21:27.50 | pb_ | hi florian |
| 21:28.13 | florian | jsmanrique: X is a standard inferface that does the hardware absraction for us, it is known to work fine and is highly optimized. |
| 21:28.19 | florian | pb_: hi! |
| 21:29.13 | jsmanrique | how about end user? |
| 21:29.15 | florian | jsmanrique: Software development for X/GTK is more similar to desktop application development. |
| 21:29.49 | jsmanrique | I have a friend working on a linux device design |
| 21:30.20 | jsmanrique | and he must decide which platform use |
| 21:30.45 | jsmanrique | he thought about Microwindows+Qt |
| 21:31.15 | jsmanrique | and I've talked him about TinyX+GPE |
| 21:31.19 | florian | jsmanrique: I'm not sure if development is that funny with this combination... |
| 21:31.52 | jsmanrique | now, I must write a resume gpe vs opie for him :-) |
| 21:32.27 | jsmanrique | how about size (flash, ram)? |
| 21:32.46 | jsmanrique | how about PC sync? |
| 21:32.57 | florian | Our applications are not that functional than opie ones, but if you need something special it is very easy to port gtk apps to PDA devices. (e.g. done with GPA and gpsdrive) |
| 21:33.22 | jsmanrique | I have to go |
| 21:33.46 | jsmanrique | write me: jsmanrique@asturlinux.org |
| 21:33.50 | jsmanrique | thanks |
| 21:33.51 | florian | Size is more or less the same... with new xlib we are maybe smaller :-) |
| 21:34.20 | jsmanrique | a good oportunity for GPE in a comercial device |
| 21:34.29 | jsmanrique | see you |
| 21:34.40 | florian | oh well... |
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| 21:34.52 | florian | hi Pa |
| 21:34.55 | florian | hi Paul |
| 21:36.02 | florian | pb_: is this right that jg had some major success reducing size of xlib? |
| 21:36.13 | pb_ | florian: I don't know. |
| 21:36.19 | pb_ | jg_: do you know? |
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| 22:02.17 | mallum | florian: you can build the fd.o xlibs without the XCMS and XLocale stuff which reduces xlib by approx 600k |
| 22:06.31 | paul | hi florian |
| 22:06.36 | paul | happy new year :) |
| 22:06.52 | paul | hi mallum/pb/jg - HNY :) |
| 22:10.51 | mallum | paul: happy new year to you too sir |
| 22:15.54 | paul | mallum: btw... someone showed me a wee app that does a 'top' for the X server through Xres. its very nice :) |
| 22:16.28 | mallum | paul: yeah I wrote it I think ;-) |
| 22:17.47 | moray | someone was showing off gnome-system-monitor patched to add a column for that |
| 22:19.36 | mallum | moray: yeah xrestop is like that but works slightly differently, is more detailed, runs in a term and for developers really |
| 22:20.46 | moray | I saw a screenshot, looked nice :) |
| 22:21.52 | mallum | thanks, its pretty useful |
| 22:22.01 | mallum | proved much more popular than I expected |
| 22:25.31 | paul | mallum: yep, tis cute. |
| 22:27.31 | paul | well, my desktop isat load avg of ~7.. i think i should look at running GPE on my desktop. this is too painful. |
| 22:27.51 | paul | night. |
| 22:47.52 | florian | re |
| 22:48.24 | florian | mallum: ah cool... good to know, 600k is really a big difference :-) |
| 22:54.46 | mallum | florian: yeah definetly. gtk/gnome seems to work fine with it, minus a few warnings |
| 23:00.14 | florian | mallum: yery nice :-) |
| 23:00.22 | florian | eh... very |
| 23:06.12 | florian | night all.. |
| 23:06.42 | pb_ | florian: night |
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