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| 00:14.54 | scribe | Hey guys |
| 00:15.06 | scribe | Anyone have any info on GPE om the Zaurus? |
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| 07:48.30 | florian_kc | hi all |
| 08:08.52 | Debolaz | florian, just the man I wanted to see :) |
| 08:25.36 | florian_kc | hi Debolaz |
| 08:26.22 | Debolaz | You have something to do with gpe-aerial, right? |
| 08:33.04 | florian_kc | Debolaz: yep |
| 08:48.07 | Debolaz | florian: Do you know when it will work on H5400? |
| 08:48.20 | Debolaz | It seems like a fairly neat application to have on it. |
| 08:51.40 | florian_kc | Debolaz: It will take some time... at the moment gpe-aerial doesn't support the drivers scan ioctl and the h5xxx wlan driver neither monitor mode nor this ioctl. |
| 08:52.31 | florian_kc | Debolaz: But pb_ told me he'd add this driver feature as soon i support it from gpe-aerial. |
| 09:08.20 | Debolaz | Nice. |
| 09:10.21 | florian_kc | hopefully :-) |
| 09:10.24 | florian_kc | bbl |
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| 09:45.11 | florian | re |
| 09:45.45 | Debolaz | wb |
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| 10:15.43 | florian | hi mallum |
| 10:21.13 | mallum | hey florian |
| 10:22.53 | mallum | I have togo crimbo shopping |
| 11:40.12 | florian | brb |
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| 13:31.26 | _Nowam_ | hello |
| 13:31.37 | _Nowam_ | which mail utility do you use under GPE ? |
| 13:41.06 | florian_kc | _Nowam_: hi, there is a mailtool in gpe... but it is not that good :-/ |
| 13:41.46 | florian_kc | _Nowam_: I started to port sylpheed, but this takes lots of time... |
| 13:45.27 | _Nowam_ | what is the mail tool ? |
| 13:45.35 | _Nowam_ | gpe-mail ? |
| 13:49.25 | florian_kc | _Nowam_: yes, exactly... |
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| 15:11.30 | pb_ | hi all |
| 15:12.40 | mallum | hey pb_ |
| 15:22.13 | florian_kc | hi pb_ |
| 15:25.00 | pb_ | florian_kc: ah, welcome back |
| 15:25.40 | florian_kc | pb_: thanks, we finally made it ;-) |
| 15:26.57 | florian_kc | I created some new sqlite packages... if something doesn't work with them, let me know! |
| 15:27.25 | pb_ | Ah, excellent. |
| 15:27.58 | pb_ | By the way, with kernel hh35, "iwlist scan" should work with the h5400 wifi. |
| 15:29.13 | florian_kc | very nice... now i only need to add support for this to gpe-aerial |
| 15:29.25 | pb_ | :-) |
| 15:29.39 | pb_ | I'm adding that capability to the atmel pcmcia driver as well at the moment. |
| 15:30.18 | pb_ | (My boss just bought ten of those cards and wants to be able to scan with them) |
| 15:30.38 | florian_kc | ok, this seems to be the only way to do this... |
| 15:31.36 | florian_kc | hmmm... not a single comment on the preferences api?! |
| 15:33.56 | mallum | pb_: btw, Im sorting out new mb package atm |
| 15:34.00 | pb_ | cool |
| 15:39.14 | Debolaz | pb_: Not "should work", "does work". :) |
| 15:39.18 | Debolaz | well |
| 15:39.19 | Debolaz | "works" |
| 15:39.20 | Debolaz | :) |
| 15:39.59 | mallum | ~lart Debolaz |
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| 17:06.27 | mallum | pb_: okey, composite powered mb's uploaded |
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| 17:33.17 | Tygger_Bob | Florian_kc: Heya! Welcome back.. |
| 17:35.59 | Tygger_Bob | Mallum: Hi |
| 17:36.06 | mallum | Tygger_Bob: heya |
| 17:36.20 | Tygger_Bob | sup? |
| 17:36.24 | mallum | Tygger_Bob: got some useful stuff from minimo developer |
| 17:36.33 | Tygger_Bob | Cool |
| 17:36.40 | Tygger_Bob | what's that? |
| 17:36.59 | mallum | patch to make crypto hopefully work on arm and some other bits |
| 17:37.03 | mallum | I'll run off a new build soon |
| 17:37.10 | pb_ | mallum: ah, jolly good |
| 17:37.10 | Tygger_Bob | Cool. |
| 17:37.15 | Tygger_Bob | Any progress on the frontend? |
| 17:37.31 | mallum | no :/ |
| 17:37.35 | Tygger_Bob | no problem.. |
| 17:37.37 | Tygger_Bob | just checking |
| 17:38.02 | mallum | the next build I do, I'll hack it so the back / reload etc butons are smaller ( just single letters ) |
| 17:38.02 | Tygger_Bob | I'll test it if you want, though |
| 17:38.31 | Tygger_Bob | Can you move the address bar to the left as well? |
| 17:38.31 | mallum | and package up this magic .xpi file that makes it miniturise web pages |
| 17:38.36 | mallum | Tygger_Bob: sure |
| 17:38.36 | Tygger_Bob | Ooooo.. that's cool! |
| 17:38.40 | Tygger_Bob | Thanks |
| 17:38.43 | Tygger_Bob | like PIE does? |
| 17:38.47 | Tygger_Bob | but better, of course :) |
| 17:38.53 | mallum | PIE ? |
| 17:39.15 | Tygger_Bob | Pocket IE |
| 17:39.43 | Tygger_Bob | scales stuff to the PPC screen |
| 17:39.44 | florian_kc | hi Tygger_Bob |
| 17:39.44 | Tygger_Bob | more or less |
| 17:39.44 | mallum | ah, never used it. opera on phones is pretty cool though |
| 17:39.45 | Tygger_Bob | How was your (vacation?) |
| 17:40.28 | Tygger_Bob | Florian_kc: or time away from us at the least :) |
| 17:42.47 | Tygger_Bob | Florian: what was your email address again? |
| 17:43.16 | Tygger_Bob | (for my christmas list for PrismStumber) |
| 17:43.31 | florian_kc | Tygger_Bob: Really fine :-) Somewhat arduous... |
| 17:43.57 | florian_kc | Tygger_Bob: florian.boor@kernelconcepts.de e.g. |
| 17:44.01 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 17:45.06 | Tygger_Bob | Arduous? |
| 17:47.01 | florian_kc | hmm.... what is an other word for this? |
| 17:47.22 | florian_kc | straining? |
| 17:48.27 | Tygger_Bob | ahhhh |
| 17:48.49 | Tygger_Bob | I knew what arduous meant.. just doesn't sound like a relaxing trip :( |
| 17:48.56 | Tygger_Bob | Visiting with in-laws? |
| 17:50.26 | florian_kc | It was quite nice and interesting but three days are not enough time for a city like Rome :-) |
| 17:51.01 | florian_kc | hehe, no - it was a kind of company trip... |
| 17:52.11 | Tygger_Bob | Ahhh |
| 17:52.20 | Tygger_Bob | Rome.... cool |
| 17:52.57 | Tygger_Bob | I was in Zurich a few times a couple years ago.. that's the only time I've been in Europe |
| 17:57.28 | Tygger_Bob | Florian: did you see the changes that Phil made to the Atmel drivers? |
| 17:57.28 | Tygger_Bob | to support AP location? |
| 17:57.51 | florian_kc | There are some very nice places in europe... Rome is one of them - only traffic is an adventure :-) |
| 17:58.14 | florian_kc | Tygger_Bob: yep, he told me... looks like some more work for me... |
| 17:58.24 | Tygger_Bob | hehehe |
| 17:59.09 | Tygger_Bob | Nice places here in Canada too.. with some notable exceptions, traffic here isn't to bad :) |
| 17:59.15 | Tygger_Bob | %s/to/too |
| 18:00.26 | florian_kc | hehe... there is much more free space in Canada i guess ;-) |
| 18:00.37 | Tygger_Bob | Yep |
| 18:00.53 | Tygger_Bob | This time of year, driving is still an adventure, though... |
| 18:03.43 | florian_kc | :-) I like driving in the snow... but we don't have very much of it here and there are not many people here sharing this attitude. |
| 18:04.00 | pb_ | heh :-) |
| 18:05.07 | Tygger_Bob | Two smallish snowfalls and the piles on the sides of my driveway are already starting to hinder site of my neighbour's house :) |
| 18:08.02 | florian_kc | _this_ is a real problem here... many people in german cities only have summer tires :-( |
| 18:08.24 | Tygger_Bob | And you wave at them as they go sailing by :) |
| 18:08.56 | Tygger_Bob | Mallum: can you think of any reason why I my MB background png won't show up anymore? |
| 18:09.28 | mallum | Tygger_Bob: upgrade your matchbox |
| 18:09.30 | pb_ | Yep, it's the same here. We usually only have about five days of real winter a year (or none at all, some years) and it often isn't worth buying a set of winter tyres for that. |
| 18:09.36 | Tygger_Bob | when I lived in British Columbia (in the mountains) we had CHAINS on our tires 8^0 |
| 18:09.37 | florian_kc | *g* |
| 18:10.19 | Tygger_Bob | Here (Ottawa) get a LOT of snow.. starts in November and goes till March/April |
| 18:10.31 | Tygger_Bob | Again? |
| 18:10.32 | Tygger_Bob | sorry |
| 18:10.38 | Tygger_Bob | Mallum: again? |
| 18:10.44 | Tygger_Bob | Just did yesterday |
| 18:10.49 | mallum | Tygger_Bob: yeah I just uplaoded a new one approx 1 hour ago |
| 18:11.03 | Tygger_Bob | Ooo.. I'll be SOOO current :) |
| 18:11.18 | mallum | Tygger_Bob: make sure you upgrade your xserver too |
| 18:11.47 | Tygger_Bob | pls tell me that cool composite stuff is in there |
| 18:11.54 | mallum | yessiry |
| 18:11.58 | mallum | Tygger_Bob: thank pb_ |
| 18:12.05 | Tygger_Bob | pb_: Thanks |
| 18:12.18 | Tygger_Bob | I seem mallum's pestering was effective :) |
| 18:12.31 | florian_kc | 3cm of snow is called "snow-chaos" in germany... ok on private tv ;-) |
| 18:13.03 | Tygger_Bob | Florian/pb : I'm having some problems using my Orinoco card with Prismstumbler after the new Atmel drivers took over eth0 |
| 18:13.54 | florian_kc | Tygger_Bob: This is maybe a bug in prismstumbler... i think it is card detection that fails. |
| 18:13.56 | pb_ | Tygger_Bob: oh. I guess the orinoco should just show up as eth1. |
| 18:14.26 | Tygger_Bob | It looks like it'w working, (LED flashes), but nothing shows up in the summary page |
| 18:14.54 | Tygger_Bob | Used to work |
| 18:14.58 | Tygger_Bob | Florian: ok |
| 18:16.50 | florian_kc | Tygger_Bob: Very strange... which devices do you have now? |
| 18:18.53 | florian_kc | Tygger_Bob: oh... maybe something (e.g. dhcpcd) brings down the interface. maybe look what happens if you bring it up manually. |
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| 18:21.45 | mallum | Tygger_Bob: I haven't actually seen the composite matchbox on anything other than a 3600, so it'll be interesting to see what performance is like on the 5xxx's |
| 18:24.24 | Tygger_Bob | Mallum: nice to see my little squirt back on the background :) |
| 18:24.31 | Tygger_Bob | Any tests I can run for you? |
| 18:25.17 | mallum | Tygger_Bob: just that it 'feels' ok |
| 18:25.47 | mallum | Tygger_Bob: and could you make me this : http://www.yamaha-motor.co.jp/eng/papercraft/w-animals2/orang-utan/index.html ? |
| 18:26.42 | Tygger_Bob | LOL |
| 18:26.51 | Tygger_Bob | might make that for my son over the holidays :) |
| 18:27.07 | mallum | yeah, I would make it if I had some offspring |
| 18:27.17 | mallum | doh, I'll make it anyway |
| 18:27.25 | Tygger_Bob | hehehehe |
| 18:27.37 | mallum | hmm, no color printer :( better go out and buy one |
| 18:27.48 | Tygger_Bob | Florian: it works for a while, and then the interface stops flashing |
| 18:30.30 | florian_kc | Tygger_Bob: hmm... yes... if the interface is down after it stopped flashing somewhere brings it down. if not something nasty is going on... |
| 18:30.36 | Tygger_Bob | Florian: and I get a zillion of these in the log: |
| 18:30.36 | Tygger_Bob | Dec 18 18:30:15 familiar syslog.err klogd: eth1: Error -110 writing Tx descripto |
| 18:30.37 | Tygger_Bob | r to BAP |
| 18:33.14 | florian_kc | very strange... there is nothing to transmit :-/ |
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| 18:34.05 | florian_kc | looks like ther _is_ something nasty going on... |
| 18:35.50 | Tygger_Bob | by the way, do either of you know if there's a logread type tool for the session log? |
| 18:36.06 | Tygger_Bob | to read it over an SSH or serial connection? |
| 18:36.36 | florian_kc | Hmm.. tail? ;-) |
| 18:36.57 | Tygger_Bob | Mallum: there is a _bit_ of a delay on the menu bars in the new MB, but the shadowing etc is very sexy |
| 18:37.11 | Tygger_Bob | Florian: I thought it was a memory buffer thingy? |
| 18:37.17 | Tygger_Bob | tail would work with that? |
| 18:37.31 | mallum | Tygger_Bob: yeah the menu stuff was a lot worse believe me ;-) |
| 18:37.58 | mallum | Tygger_Bob: if you switch to bluebox theme it will use solid shadows which should be faster |
| 18:38.34 | mallum | Tygger_Bob: also the menu's are pretty big - the settings one is half the display size |
| 18:38.49 | Tygger_Bob | It's not THAT bad, though |
| 18:39.23 | mallum | indeed |
| 18:39.24 | florian_kc | Tygger_Bob: The session log is a file in ramdisk, the file ~/.xsession-errors is a link to it. |
| 18:39.56 | Tygger_Bob | Ahhh.. ok |
| 18:40.13 | Tygger_Bob | LSNED |
| 18:40.28 | Tygger_Bob | Mallum: is it possible to do partial screen windows? |
| 18:40.47 | mallum | Tygger_Bob: how do you mean ? |
| 18:40.47 | Tygger_Bob | like an xterm that doesn't take up the whole screen? |
| 18:40.55 | mallum | Tygger_Bob: no, not in matchbox |
| 18:41.00 | Tygger_Bob | Just curious |
| 18:41.12 | mallum | Tygger_Bob: you could make a term that was a toolbar window like the keyboard |
| 18:41.16 | Tygger_Bob | switching's no big deal, just more curious than anything |
| 18:41.34 | Tygger_Bob | Cool. how do you do that? |
| 18:41.44 | mallum | Tygger_Bob: on familiar we used to use a wm called ION which did that kind of thing |
| 18:41.47 | Tygger_Bob | don't tell me.. it's in the MB docs.. |
| 18:41.50 | Tygger_Bob | I can go look |
| 18:42.07 | mallum | Tygger_Bob: it was a hatred of that ( on pda anyway ) that made me write matchbox in the first place |
| 18:42.17 | Tygger_Bob | Ahhhh |
| 18:42.22 | mallum | Tygger_Bob: you'd have to patch xterm source to do it |
| 18:44.21 | Tygger_Bob | Florian: who's baby is that eth1 issue? (yours or Phil's?) I realize it's MY baby right now :) |
| 18:45.42 | florian_kc | Tygger_Bob: I'm not sure, maybe mine... what is the state of the interface after it stopped working? |
| 18:47.11 | florian_kc | bbl |
| 18:54.37 | BBrox | Man, mallum got hit by the eye-candy virus :-) |
| 18:55.48 | mallum | BBrox: muahahaha |
| 18:55.56 | mallum | BBrox: its too impress ladies |
| 18:56.03 | mallum | BBrox: oh doh Im married |
| 18:56.17 | mallum | BBrox: oh doh II, Linux on ipaqs dont really impress ladies |
| 18:57.30 | BBrox | Except if you like them bearded with long hairs :-) |
| 18:58.26 | mallum | BBrox: seriously hopefully its only a small cost for uber eye candy |
| 18:59.11 | BBrox | Well, for the moment I do not feel drop-down shadows to be the killer app for it. |
| 18:59.23 | BBrox | But well, I am a dinosaur :-) |
| 18:59.46 | mallum | its the lowlihting for modal dialogs Im more interested in for usefulness |
| 19:00.29 | BBrox | Yeah, this one is better. |
| 19:00.45 | BBrox | Or at least I see its usefulness :-) |
| 19:01.30 | mallum | I bet you just run a console |
| 19:02.20 | BBrox | Nah, but I have FVWM 1.23r as my WM :-) |
| 19:02.48 | mallum | not twm ? |
| 19:03.25 | Tygger_Bob | BBrox: LOL |
| 19:03.58 | BBrox | Well, twm is a bit too dinausoristic for me :-) |
| 19:04.14 | Tygger_Bob | When I show my wife something new on my iPAQ, she's like "hmmmmmmmm.. that's nice" |
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| 19:18.55 | Tygger_Bob | re ade |
| 19:20.09 | ade|desk | lo |
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| 19:31.53 | Tygger_Bob | Anyone else seeing weird behaviour from the battery monitor applet in GPE? |
| 19:32.22 | Tygger_Bob | After an update, it can't read the device anymore.. shows no power. |
| 19:33.16 | Tygger_Bob | If I go to settings, that works |
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| 19:53.36 | mccarthy | so. |
| 19:53.43 | mccarthy | I keep missing pb_, eh? |
| 19:53.45 | mccarthy | ibot seen pb_? |
| 19:53.48 | | pb_ <~pb@dsl-62-3-66-204.zen.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gpe, 1h 39m 51s ago, saying: 'Tygger_Bob: oh. I guess the orinoco should just show up as eth1.'. |
| 19:53.59 | mccarthy | damn |
| 19:54.47 | Tygger_Bob | He's at a christmas party |
| 19:55.28 | ade|desk | if i wasnt ill i'd be at the dept's xmas do :( |
| 19:55.28 | ade|desk | poop |
| 19:55.53 | mccarthy | xmas parties are for sissies :p |
| 19:55.58 | mccarthy | do you get free beer? |
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