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14:09.20Tygger_BobMornin
14:15.42mallumhellooooooo
14:15.51Tygger_BobHey Mallum
14:15.55Tygger_Bobhow's it going?
14:18.28mallumgood good
14:19.34Tygger_BobGlad to hear it
14:19.39Tygger_BobMind sharing some of that?
14:20.31mallumok, heres some :-)
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15:27.04Tygger_BobBack
15:56.02Tygger_BobRe nelson
16:04.21mallumjg_: ping
16:05.23jg_mallum: pong
16:07.38mallumjg_: something I started hacking you may like http://www.freedesktop.org/~mallum/xrestop.png
16:08.58jg_mallum: yes, greatly.  check it in to fd.o's CVS ASAP.....
16:49.59Tygger_Bobmallum: what's udev?
16:51.47Tygger_BobNever mind.. Googled it
16:51.56mallumTygger_Bob: kernel /dev entry stuff I think
16:53.05Tygger_BobThanks
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17:07.46Tygger_Bobjamey: modprobe mmc_h5400 works, and I did a mkfs.ext3 on /dev/mmc/disc and that worked. should I be able to mount it?
17:12.30cmarquArgh.
17:13.03cmarquI got 0.7.2, and keylock doesn't let me unlock the screen since I have a 3600 which can only read a button at a time
17:17.41Tygger_BobYuck..
17:17.49Tygger_Bobso you have to reset to get out of it?
17:19.18cmarquNo,  I ssh'ed in and killed it :)
17:19.31cmarquAnd then removed the package.
17:19.41cmarquWhoa, rosetta rocks.
17:19.45mallumcmarqu: I think its silly if any gpe stuff depends on buttons
17:20.28cmarqumallum: Welll, for the intended purpose, it's a cool feature. If only it worked for me :)
17:21.02mallumcmarqu: not very portable across different handhelds
17:21.43cmarqumallum: Yeah... It would need to be configurabel and come with some hardware detection.
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17:31.39jameyTygger_Bob: that worked?  I did not know it was so far along, someone must have done some debugging
17:38.48Tygger_BobJamie: it SAYS it worked..
17:39.06Tygger_BobI get a /dev/mmc/part1 after the mkfs.ext3, but I can't do anything with it
17:43.01jameyTygger_Bob: getting the /dev/mmc/part1 file is demonstrating that quite a bit worked
17:44.11jameydid you do mkfs.ext3 on /dev/mmc/disc?, so there is no partition table?
17:44.16jameyor did you fdisk it?
17:44.38jameyif you mkfs.ext3 on the disc, then try mounting the disc instead of part1?
17:50.40Tygger_BobSorry.. had to help my wife give one of the twins some pablum.
17:50.42Tygger_Bobback
17:51.05Tygger_BobI did a mkfs.ext3 on /dev/mmc/disc
17:52.18Tygger_Bob/dev # mount -t ext3 /dev/mmc/disc /mnt/card
17:52.18Tygger_Bobmount: Mounting /dev/mmc/disc on /mnt/card failed: No such device
17:52.24Tygger_Bobsame for /dev/mmc/part1
17:52.55Tygger_Bobshould I try fdisk?
18:05.30jameymight try fdisk
18:11.42Tygger_Bobhehehe..
18:11.54Tygger_Bobrebooted my ipaq and now I don't have anything in /dev/mmc
18:13.29Tygger_BobI feel like I'm Dallas.. it was all a dream
18:13.48Tygger_Bobrmmod mmc_h5400
18:13.52Tygger_Boboops
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18:54.25Tygger_Bobmallum: you around?  what are the specs for an image to be used as a background in MB?
18:56.07Tygger_Bobjamey: it WAS all a dream.  The mkfs.ext3 did nothing.. I just popped the SD card back in my notebook and all the junk that was there before was still there :)
18:56.24Tygger_Bobnot convinced it was actually seeing the SD card at all
18:57.31jameyoh
18:58.38Tygger_Boboh well..
19:00.31DebolazIt was a beautiful dream while it lasted, much like democrazy.
19:03.01Tygger_Bobhehehehe
19:03.02Tygger_Bobtrue
19:05.13Tygger_Bobhehehe..
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19:06.55Tygger_BobHey Phil!
19:07.29pb_hi Tygger_Bob
19:07.48Tygger_Bobguess what.. everything's working today.. no "Phil.. it looks like it's doing this. And have it turn out to be just some fluke thing that's not really wrong :)
19:08.19Tygger_BobExcept I that blinking orange light is killing me.
19:09.42pb_"rmmod usbvnetr" should stop it.
19:10.05pb_Or it will stop flashing when it finds an AP.
19:11.31mallumTygger_Bob: png, jpgs, or xpms
19:14.50Tygger_BobMallum: thanks I used png and it looks great :)
19:15.04Tygger_Bobdesaturated it a bit to make it fit in with the default scheme
19:18.48Tygger_Bobpb_: ~ # rmmod usbvnetr
19:18.48Tygger_Bobrmmod: usbvnetr: Device or resource busy
19:19.07pb_Tygger_Bob: need to ifconfig eth0 down first
19:20.32Tygger_Bob~ # ifconfig eth0 down
19:20.34Tygger_Bob~ # rmmod usbvnetr
19:20.35Tygger_Bobrmmod: usbvnetr: Device or resource busy
19:20.41Tygger_Bobtried that yesterday
19:20.52pb_ah, that's not so good.  I wonder what's wrong with it.
19:22.33Tygger_BobI don't see anything in the logs either
19:25.07Tygger_Bobtell me it's not just me again :^|
19:25.51pb_well, as a last resort you can remove it from /etc/modules and reboot.
19:25.53Tygger_BobIs there a way to see the session logs remotely (over ssh/console link)
19:26.19Tygger_BobThat'll make it kind of a pain when I want to use it, though, eh?
19:26.24Debolazpb_: By the way, why was it made to blink on data instead of being constantly on when it finds an AP?
19:26.40Tygger_Bobguess I'll live with the blink.
19:26.50pb_Debolaz: Because I found it desperately annoying when it was lit all the time.
19:27.05pb_Tygger_Bob: if it's any consolation, hh36 will stop it blinking on ifconfig down.
19:27.12Tygger_BobDebolaz: I actually prefer the green traffic notification.  it's the orange "I'm all alone out here
19:27.25Tygger_Bobblink that I don't care for :)
19:27.47Tygger_BobI like to know when there's traffic.. that was a good call, Phil
19:28.12Tygger_Bobhehehe
19:28.20pb_Tygger_Bob: well, you could manually load the module when you want to use it.  My guess is that it's probably unloadable when it's associated, but not when it's scanning.
19:28.32DebolazI don't mind it, I was just curious why it was chosen to act like that.
19:28.49Tygger_BobPhil: thanks.. any estimates on when hh36 should come our way?
19:28.58Tygger_BobWhat else is in it?
19:29.07pb_nothing, yet.
19:29.20Tygger_BobDebolaz: this way, it acts like the lights on a real NIC
19:29.27pb_I think that's literally the only change in cvs that didn't make it into hh35.
19:30.49Tygger_BobSFQ: what exactly is aerial?
19:31.11pb_florian's eleet wireless scanner.
19:31.57Tygger_Bobbetter than prismstumbler then?
19:32.00Tygger_BobOooo.. cool
19:33.16DebolazAnything that lets me not have to use that butt ugly xterm.
19:34.01Tygger_BobDo you have compatible WIFI card?
19:34.18DebolazHi have the integrated wifi.
19:34.20DebolazI
19:34.48Tygger_BobBut it's not, right?
19:34.56pb_Not yet, no.
19:35.16DebolazAnd that's my problem. ;)
19:35.17pb_Florian needs to make some adjustments to have gpe-aerial use SIOCSIWSCAN rather than monitor mode.
19:35.57pb_Unfortunately I think he's on holiday at the moment.
19:37.30Tygger_BobJust who does he think he is, taking holidays, damnit?
19:37.31Tygger_Bobhehehe
19:37.38Tygger_Bobhe sounded like he needed to
19:37.51Tygger_Bobwhen last I saw him
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20:03.46pigeon:\
20:06.04Tygger_BobSup, Pigeon? you look perplexed/unhappy
20:12.15pigeonmorning Tygger_Bob
20:13.35mallumpb_: any news on your fixed arm libc getting into unstable ?
20:13.38Tygger_BobMorning?  Where you at?
20:13.52pigeonTygger_Bob: Sydney, Australia.
20:15.17mallumnelson: theres porn on scap again
20:18.11pb_what's the name of the file?  I'll delete it.
20:18.34pb_oh, yeah, I forgot about libc.  let me take care of that now.
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20:18.53pigeonport.7289.png
20:18.54mallumpb_: port.7289
20:19.09pb_ok, done
20:19.42pb_(scap, that is, not libc)
20:20.29mallumpb_: the libc you put on hh.org works fine, but other package deps get angry
20:20.58pb_yup, someone else mentioned that yesterday.  I'm uploading the whole set to incoming now.
20:21.10mallumpb_: thank you sir
20:21.20mallumpb_: I got a netwinder this week
20:21.27pb_turns out that I'd forgotten to sign the last upload, so it REJECTed.
20:21.33pb_oh right, cool.
20:21.40pb_an eleet overclocked one?
20:21.56mallumpb_: how do I find that out ?
20:22.15pb_use mhz from lmbench, or check /proc/cpuinfo for bogomips numbers.
20:22.31mallumpb_: okey one sec
20:22.48mallumBogoMIPS        : 185.95
20:23.16pb_let me get a number to compare that with
20:23.27mallumthats more than my CATS ( 151 )
20:23.41pb_ah, right, probably is an overclocked one then.
20:23.47pb_they run the strongarm at 275MHz rather than 233.
20:23.54mallumpb_: cool :-)
20:24.02pb_yeah, mine is 185.95 bogomips as well.
20:24.18mallumpb_: Im pretty impressed with it, nice bit of it. lots of sockets and bits on it
20:24.25mallumpb_: and makes a nice sound of boot
20:24.33mallums/of/on/
20:24.52pb_yep, they're quite cool little machines.
20:26.08mallumpb_: it was only 150$ too
20:26.34pb_not bad.
20:27.49mallumI think they are beginning to turn up really cheap on ebay now
20:28.07mallumit would be nice to build a cluster of them
20:29.40pb_yup.  Ralph has one of those.
20:29.42pb_http://www.netwinder.org/autobuild/screenshot.html
20:31.26mallumnice
20:32.06mallumpb_: also, not hassling but did you get a chance to add the xcomposite libs ?
20:32.18pb_ah, er, no.  maybe I can do it this evening, though.
20:33.05mallumpb_: would be uber cool :-)
20:33.06pb_I don't think it should be hard; it's just that I only have the X compiling stuff on my laptop, and I kept forgetting to bring it home from the office.  But I do have it today.
20:33.34pb_Do you know which libraries it is that you need?
20:33.47mallumpb_: XComposite, XFixes and XDamage
20:33.53pb_ok
20:34.44mallumpb_: also if its not already there XRes too, though thats not for matchbox but this http://www.freedesktop.org/~mallum/xrestop.png
20:35.23pb_righto
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20:42.35Tygger_Bobpoop
20:42.54Tygger_Bobpb_: there doesn't seem to be anyway to unload that atmel module once it's loaded
20:45.04Tygger_BobI took it out of /etc/modules and added a modprobe to my wifi script
20:45.16Tygger_Bobthat works
20:45.25pb_strange.  I'm sure I was able to unload it a few days ago.
20:45.27pb_oh well
20:46.09Tygger_Bobis there a required iwconfig command?
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20:46.47Tygger_Bobafter the ifconfig eth0 down?
20:48.32pb_no
20:48.45Tygger_Bobok
20:48.45pb_it's probably just some bug.
20:48.56Tygger_Bobok.. no biggy
20:50.36Tygger_Bobhmmmm worked the second time
20:50.47Tygger_Bobmaybe I need to put a delay in the script..
20:52.28Tygger_Bobof course... now it works EVERY time...
20:52.32Tygger_Bobyou must hate me :)
20:53.29Tygger_Bobnahh.. it's a delay thing
20:53.36Tygger_Bobworks now
21:01.16pb_mallum: I uploaded libxcomposite1 and libxfixes0.  will do Damage in a moment.
21:02.32Tygger_BobMallum: is this for your composite stuff you were showing me?
21:10.50pb_right, libxdamage0 uploaded as well.
21:16.04nelsonpb_: thanks for the scap delete....
21:17.01Tygger_BobSomething naughty?
21:21.24nelsonTygger_Bob: an overfleshed picture.
21:25.27Tygger_BobParis Hilton's green screen iPAQ?
21:25.35Tygger_Bob;^)
21:37.28mallum_pb_: cool, many thanks :-))
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23:11.17mallum_pb_: did you upload the new libs to unstable ?
23:11.23pb_yes
23:12.10mallum_pb_: does ipkgfind only update itself on a cron job or something ?
23:12.17pb_yeah, I think so.
23:12.46pb_at 00:05 and 12:05, it seems.
23:13.12mallum_pb_: okey. also need to put the xserver in ~pb into unstable
23:13.19pb_oh yeah
23:13.35pb_done
23:13.52mallum_excellent :-)
23:14.29mallum_pb_: I'll run off a matchbox build in the morning, have to add new deps to ipkg and test
23:14.35pb_ok, cool
23:14.56mallum_pb_: can you add new users to hh.org or is that a jamey job ?
23:15.17mallum_pb_: I have someone who wants to hack on figment
23:15.35pb_You should be able to create accounts for figment hackers.
23:16.22pb_though I gather the scripts are a little broken at the moment, so it may not work all that well.  if that's the case, you'll need to contact admin@handhelds.org for help.
23:16.59mallum_pb_: okey will drop them a mail
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