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| 03:02.06 | clarity__ | sup? |
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| 03:09.36 | clarity__ | hey |
| 03:10.50 | TyggerBob | Hey |
| 03:12.15 | clarity__ | what's up? |
| 03:13.52 | TyggerBob | Nothing much.. |
| 03:13.56 | TyggerBob | just dropping by |
| 03:19.50 | clarity__ | oh word |
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| 11:14.38 | elephantum | hi all |
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| 11:51.28 | florian | hi all |
| 11:51.47 | pb_ | hi florian |
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| 12:11.20 | florian | pb_: hi |
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| 14:38.44 | florian_kc | re |
| 14:38.49 | florian_kc | hi elephantum |
| 14:45.02 | elephantum | florian_kc: hi! ) |
| 14:46.32 | elephantum | florian_kc: comment ca vas? =) |
| 14:47.40 | florian_kc | elephantum: :-) |
| 14:48.19 | florian_kc | everything fine... the only problem is time... |
| 14:48.33 | elephantum | florian_kc: I began to learn french a little =) |
| 14:48.41 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:48.42 | elephantum | florian_kc: yeah, that`s true |
| 14:49.40 | florian_kc | elephantum: hehe, i tried some years ago... |
| 14:50.08 | elephantum | florian_kc: shame on me, I almost forgot about irc and handhelds... today met pb_ on another channel and came back =) |
| 14:51.49 | elephantum | how the developing is going? |
| 14:51.51 | elephantum | =) |
| 14:51.57 | florian_kc | elephantum: i wondered where you were :-) |
| 14:53.20 | elephantum | florian_kc: I almost sank in the sea of things to do |
| 14:53.29 | florian_kc | Hmm... yes, most of us hope to have some more time after christmas :-) |
| 14:54.30 | florian_kc | mallum chreated some fine stuff... very fast windows with shadows and some other nice looking stuff. |
| 14:54.40 | elephantum | florian_kc: wow... |
| 14:54.50 | elephantum | florian_kc: cool =) I need to see it =) |
| 14:55.25 | elephantum | florian_kc: I guess it is in unstable? |
| 14:56.40 | florian_kc | i did some work on gpe-conf (button config and a new info applet) |
| 14:56.51 | florian_kc | ah and gpe-package |
| 14:57.25 | elephantum | florian_kc: cool. that`s good, that smth is going on. |
| 14:57.36 | elephantum | florian_kc: I thought much about syncing |
| 14:57.54 | florian_kc | there was some success in fixing h5xxx bugs in kernel... |
| 14:58.26 | elephantum | you`re full of good news =) |
| 14:58.26 | florian_kc | I'm not sure what is in unstable... irc something was missing. |
| 14:58.44 | elephantum | ok, I`ll ask mallum ) |
| 14:58.50 | florian_kc | elephantum: oh yes, syncing is still a very important topic |
| 14:59.20 | elephantum | florian_kc: I remember. I need it so much now. but exams. have no time to write |
| 14:59.29 | florian_kc | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.11207.png |
| 14:59.41 | pb_ | yes, syncing is becoming more urgent by the day. My plan at the moment is to work on it in January. |
| 14:59.47 | florian_kc | elephantum: yeah, that's nasty... |
| 15:00.28 | elephantum | florian_kc: cool. very nice |
| 15:00.39 | florian_kc | oh great - i think i'll have some time for gpe in january too... |
| 15:00.54 | elephantum | january - vacation time =0 |
| 15:00.55 | elephantum | =) |
| 15:01.09 | florian_kc | btw. who did this nice theme? |
| 15:02.17 | elephantum | pb_: when you will start work on syncing - ask me if I would have something done to the moment |
| 15:34.45 | pb_ | ok |
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| 16:07.06 | pb_ | ew, the atmelwlandriver makefiles are terrible. |
| 16:09.04 | pb_ | florian_kc: does gpe-aerial have the ability to scan for networks using a card that doesn't do monitor mode? |
| 16:17.19 | florian_kc | pb_: it will give you a net if you are associated to it _maybe_, but in most cases it will fail to detect your wireless lan card. |
| 16:17.44 | florian_kc | pb_: it might be a good idea to implement a kind of fallback solution for this... |
| 16:18.28 | pb_ | florian_kc: Yeah. I'm trying to figure out what we can do with these Atmel cards, like in the h5400 (and I have some PCMCIA cards with those chips as well). The firmware on those doesn't support monitor mode. |
| 16:19.21 | pb_ | But, all that most people really want to do is see a list of the available SSIDs and choose one to associate with, so monitor mode shouldn't strictly be necessary. |
| 16:20.28 | florian_kc | pb_: I remember some features of other cards that are able to scan for available networks itself. |
| 16:20.53 | florian_kc | pb_: But this didn't work with all cards... |
| 16:21.40 | pb_ | florian_kc: Right, that's what I was thinking of. I think there's a special wireless ioctl for that. |
| 16:22.01 | florian_kc | pb_: Does this work with the atmal chipset? |
| 16:22.03 | pb_ | SIOCSIWSCAN, I suppose. |
| 16:22.30 | florian_kc | Yep, i think that's it... |
| 16:22.51 | pb_ | florian_kc: Well, neither of the atmel drivers support that ioctl at the moment. The atmelwlandriver does provide something similar using a different interface, though, and I don't think it would be hard to add support for the proper ioctl. The Berlios driver doesn't support it at all, but again it would be easy to add. |
| 16:23.51 | pb_ | The drivers already have to do all the hard work of scanning in order to associate with an AP. All that's required in addition is to have them keep a list of all the SSIDs that they've seen, and pass it back to the application. |
| 16:24.14 | florian_kc | pb_: seems to be a very good idea... i'll look how to make gpe-aerial using this. |
| 16:25.19 | pb_ | Okay, great. I'll fix the drivers, if you can make gpe-aerial do the right thing. |
| 16:26.47 | florian_kc | ok, great |
| 16:36.06 | pb_ | It looks like the only existing wireless driver with support for SIOCSIWSCAN is hostap_cs. |
| 16:36.11 | pb_ | mwvlan_cs has a private ioctl SIOCSIWAPSCAN that I guess is similar. |
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| 18:59.02 | Tygger_Bob | Hi |
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