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| 09:38.40 | florian_kc | hi all |
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| 12:45.35 | mallum | tigert: yo |
| 13:25.32 | tigert | hi |
| 13:25.39 | tigert | but I got the mail |
| 13:25.45 | mallum | tigert: np |
| 13:26.50 | mallum | tigert: dont stress over it |
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| 13:59.38 | nelson | tigert: don't listen to mallum! *do* stress over it! |
| 14:00.34 | mallum | nelson: :/ |
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| 14:23.08 | mallum | nelson: [OT] do you know how I specify to rsync multiple remote paths ? |
| 14:24.16 | nelson | Sorry, no. |
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| 15:46.13 | rwilliam | does the newest ver of GPE support infared beaming of contacts, appts, etc? |
| 15:48.18 | florian_kc | rwilliam: Very basic - gpe-beam should be able to receive data from other devices, but sending seems to be problmatic on some ipaqs. |
| 15:49.21 | florian_kc | rwilliam: it is possible to import and export vcards but only exporting is in gui at the moment, |
| 15:52.21 | florian_kc | Looks like we need to do some homework about this :-/ |
| 15:53.17 | rwilliam | florian_kc: thanks for the info.. are there images available for the latest gpe ie. diff files |
| 15:54.28 | florian_kc | rwilliam: Latest unstable images are here: http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.7.2/install/ |
| 15:55.58 | rwilliam | yeah, link isn't working atleast for last few weeks |
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| 15:56.37 | florian_kc | oh, wait.... |
| 15:57.26 | florian_kc | nelson? |
| 15:59.01 | florian_kc | rwilliam: http://handhelds.org/~pb/unstable/ |
| 15:59.09 | nelson | yes? |
| 15:59.24 | florian_kc | This is the location of the unstable images... |
| 15:59.37 | nelson | 0.7.2 is a little slow incoming. |
| 15:59.48 | florian_kc | nelson: What is with this link in the topic? |
| 16:00.09 | nelson | Current version ends up with xtscal in landscape mode, and the calibration screwed. |
| 16:00.19 | rwilliam | florian_kc: great, thanks.. that's great, i'll load it tonight and check it out |
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| 16:00.30 | nelson | florian_kc: I thought we had working images ... but not. |
| 16:02.14 | florian_kc | nelson: ah ok, btw - you should add latest gpe-conf to 0.7.2, it fixes some bugs... the only trouble i see is that it could maybe kill latest mbdesktop |
| 16:03.03 | nelson | How "latest" is it? |
| 16:03.38 | florian_kc | rwilliam: seen what nelson said? maybe uase the version before the latest... |
| 16:04.17 | florian_kc | nelson: 0.1.2, i think i created packages a week ago.... |
| 16:04.19 | rwilliam | yeah, just interested in seeing where 0.7.2 will be going, won't use it in operation |
| 16:04.33 | nelson | got it, then. |
| 16:05.23 | florian_kc | rwilliam: sure, we become better.... slowly but surely :-) |
| 16:05.45 | florian_kc | nelson: ok, great... |
| 16:06.14 | rwilliam | i have 2 ipaq's at the moment.. my main one is actually running Opie due to gpe wacky wireless interface, calendaring oddities and the infared is the real killer |
| 16:08.08 | rwilliam | but gpe definately has a better inferface so will migrate asap |
| 16:08.41 | rwilliam | is there a package management interface like Opies in the works at all? |
| 16:08.48 | florian_kc | Well... yes, i think wireless stuff was improved since 0.7.1, infrared suffers from missing a real maintainer - looks like i should improve this tool... |
| 16:09.23 | florian_kc | about the calendar - file bugs for everything that's wrong, buggy or useless! |
| 16:09.40 | rwilliam | will do |
| 16:11.00 | florian_kc | It is in development (that's what i do at the moment), but we go a different way - we don't parse ipkg output and files, i try to chreate a generic ipkg library that is useful for all kind of frontends. |
| 16:11.39 | rwilliam | good stuff |
| 16:11.39 | florian_kc | Simple stuff like installin and removing packages should work... but there is no package so far. |
| 16:12.39 | rwilliam | my 2nd ipaq is actually going away in the next few days, but hoping to pick up a 3630 cheap and perhaps getting involved in, if nothing else testing and perhaps doc'n |
| 16:15.05 | florian_kc | Hey, that's a nice idea - we really need people who are interested helping. There is many stuff in the GPE wiki at handhelds.org - maybe a good place to start :-) |
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| 16:20.52 | reenoo | hi |
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| 16:22.09 | florian_kc | hi reenoo |
| 16:22.18 | reenoo | hey florian_kc |
| 16:22.25 | florian_kc | bbl |
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| 17:15.04 | florian | re |
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| 17:28.57 | mallum_ | florian: http://www.handhelds.org/~mallum/paneltitle.png |
| 17:31.09 | florian | mallum_: looks cool... |
| 17:32.25 | mallum_ | florian: still beta stage-ishh |
| 17:32.33 | mallum_ | florian: any word on the deleted keys thing ? |
| 17:33.42 | moray | mallum: ah, that's nice |
| 17:34.12 | florian | mallum_: we should ask pb_ about this, adding this to gpe-conf is easy |
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| 18:34.49 | __andras__ | Het |
| 18:34.55 | __andras__ | (Hey that is) |
| 18:35.15 | __andras__ | I'm trying to run the X server on a newly installed Debian on Zaurus C750 |
| 18:35.39 | __andras__ | i'm getting this error when starting Xfbdev: |
| 18:35.43 | __andras__ | zaurus:~# Xfbdev -screen 640x480 |
| 18:35.43 | __andras__ | Touch screen not found. |
| 18:35.43 | __andras__ | : No such file or directory |
| 18:36.23 | __andras__ | anyone have a quick suggestion off the back of their head? |
| 18:36.27 | florian | Sounds like a missinf module... |
| 18:37.04 | __andras__ | i used the kernel that's also used by sharp and openzaurus, actually built myself, but with basically the same configuration |
| 18:37.36 | __andras__ | the touchscreen driver should have been linked statically into the kernel, at least there is an option for it that is selected |
| 18:37.42 | florian | mallum_: You are the zaurus-master :-) |
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| 18:38.35 | __andras__ | where is Xfbdev looking for the touchscreen anyway? maybe it's a problem with devfs (which i'm using), a device file might be missing |
| 18:40.08 | __andras__ | ok, i think i've found it, the name pipe /dev/ts must be what i'm looking for |
| 18:40.17 | __andras__ | but what process supplies the data for /dev/ts? |
| 18:42.02 | florian | No idea how this works on the Zaurus - it should be a device.... |
| 18:42.55 | __andras__ | the idea of /dev/ts comes from a quick look at Matt Zimmerman's debian root image |
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| 18:53.15 | florian | Hmm... debian on Zaurus?! |
| 18:57.14 | __andras__ | florian: yes, Matt made a root image for Debian on the Zaurus 5500 |
| 18:57.40 | __andras__ | florian: i've just made one for the Zaurus C750, with more up-to-date kernel and packages |
| 18:58.00 | __andras__ | ok, i think i've got it -- ztsd seems to be what i need |
| 18:58.08 | florian | __andras__: oh cool, sound funny |
| 18:59.38 | __andras__ | it works, the X server has just come up |
| 18:59.50 | __andras__ | but the touchscreen doesn't do anything yet |
| 19:00.07 | __andras__ | i needed to add a named pipe and a char device to /dev |
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| 19:15.11 | florian | hi pb_ |
| 19:16.58 | __andras__ | works!!!!!! the named pipe and ztsd aren't required -- just make /dev/ts a symlink to /dev/sharp_ts (or create by hand, sharp_ts doesn't automatically appear either) |
| 19:17.06 | __andras__ | i think i'll gaim from bed tonight... |
| 19:17.44 | __andras__ | now if only i could suspend the thing AND get it to resume, that would be more than great |
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| 19:22.14 | florian | ah cool :-) |
| 19:22.17 | florian | ho RobiWan |
| 19:23.52 | reenoo | haha... a quick search on google shows this applied CS task is a plain ripoff... even the sentences are more or less the same... the good thing about it is that the original comes with the solution... lol |
| 19:24.50 | reenoo | oops... wrong channel |
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| 19:34.49 | pb_ | hi all |
| 19:35.12 | florian | hey pb_ |
| 19:35.20 | pb_ | hi florian |
| 19:36.37 | florian | pb_: Did you manage to add this key removal feature to xst? |
| 19:37.05 | pb_ | florian: um... err |
| 19:37.15 | pb_ | florian: no, actually |
| 19:38.59 | florian | pb_: mallum asked for it - looks like mbdesktop crashes with the method i use at the moment (emtying the strings) |
| 19:39.21 | pb_ | florian: ah. |
| 19:39.28 | pb_ | well, shouldn't be too difficult. |
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| 20:51.00 | florian | re |
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| 21:15.11 | __andras__ | Hi |
| 21:15.45 | __andras__ | another quick question: at what level does gpe do touchscreen calibration, and how do i control it? |
| 21:16.11 | __andras__ | is it built into the x server, or is it a translator process that pipes information from the touchscreen device to the x server? |
| 21:18.48 | pb_ | under familiar, it's in the kernel. |
| 21:19.20 | __andras__ | i need it on the zaurus c750, so that's not much use... |
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| 23:11.26 | *** topic/#gpe is #gpe, not #handhelds.org | GPE: The GPE Palmtop Environment | http://gpe.handhelds.org | libgpewidget 0.66 uploaded to debian sid, time to get packaging | bootgpe2 0.7.2-rc3: http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.7.2/install/ | issues for Familiar 0.7.2: http://handhelds.org/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=969 |
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| 23:29.55 | ben|via_cell | Has anyone here managed to get an SD card working on an iPaq? |
