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| 09:08.49 | Momch | hi |
| 09:09.17 | Momch | is there any documentation somewhere about gpe on openzaurus ? |
| 09:42.01 | Momch | just want to know how to build gpe with openzaurus, thanks. |
| 09:45.05 | pigeon | like...? |
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| 10:33.58 | Momch | ?? |
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| 13:15.23 | florian_kc | re |
| 13:15.37 | mallum | florian_kc: heya |
| 13:17.44 | florian_kc | hi mallum |
| 13:21.22 | mallum | hey florian_kc |
| 13:22.55 | florian_kc | I need to merge three todo liats.... |
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| 13:33.23 | reacend | hi |
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| 13:46.41 | florian_kc | reacend: hello |
| 13:46.53 | reacend | florian_kc, hi |
| 14:14.15 | jg | mallum: you see the Nokia 7700? |
| 14:14.28 | mallum | jg: no ? |
| 14:14.50 | jg | http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,8764,47551,00.html |
| 14:17.34 | Hallski | hmm. . what is that? :) |
| 14:19.21 | Hallski | http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,8764,47563,00.html <-- didn't look too bad here |
| 14:20.32 | reacend | with gpe installed not ;) |
| 14:25.29 | florian_kc | Hehe, this device needs GPE :-) |
| 15:03.06 | florian_kc | ibot: botmail for pb_ Buttons are much better now, only the direction keys do all the same and the power button doesn't wake up the device. |
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| 15:15.59 | AntiProxy | re: Nokia 7700.. i was just checking it out following the lead of /. |
| 15:16.21 | AntiProxy | it looks wacky! |
| 15:16.26 | AntiProxy | feature packed though |
| 15:16.43 | AntiProxy | but too weird of a phone |
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| 18:46.21 | reenoo | hi |
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| 18:48.33 | momch | hi |
| 18:49.23 | mallum | hey momch |
| 18:49.57 | momch | just want to know if there is a documentation or an howto, to build gpe on openzaurus |
| 18:50.00 | momch | thanks |
| 18:50.21 | momch | I have zaurus c760 and wanted to try gpe on it |
| 18:50.24 | momch | possible ? |
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| 18:53.48 | momch | oops |
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| 18:54.31 | florian | re |
| 18:54.38 | momch | re ;-) |
| 18:55.35 | florian | hello momch |
| 18:55.35 | reenoo | hey florian |
| 18:55.50 | florian | hi reenoo |
| 18:59.36 | mallum | momch: gpe is not part of oz. X is. You can install familiar gpe packages into OZ but do so at your own risk |
| 19:00.22 | mallum | momch: idealy someone needs to add gpe packages to OZ. nobody has bother to do so as yet |
| 19:01.18 | momch | mallum: how hard is it to add gpe to oz ? do you have an idea ? |
| 19:02.49 | mallum | momch: Id set aside a few days at least |
| 19:03.12 | mallum | momch: you need to figure out how OZ buildroot works aswell |
| 19:03.56 | mallum | momch: I can offer advice on that and Im sure other people here could advise on gpe make stuff |
| 19:07.05 | momch | thanks |
| 19:07.39 | momch | I'm not very god on embedded system, but i'm going to take a look a that |
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| 19:25.09 | momch | re ;-( |
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| 19:45.19 | pb_ | afternoon |
| 19:45.33 | florian | pb_: hello! |
| 19:45.42 | pb_ | hi florian! |
| 19:49.26 | pb_ | it's strange that your power button isn't working. Does it have no effect at all? |
| 19:49.32 | pb_ | On my h5000 it works fine. |
| 19:51.37 | florian | pb_: Maybe a power menegement problem - i found out that it freezes the system if i press it powered on but never resumes it. |
| 19:51.46 | florian | apm -s freezes it too... |
| 19:52.08 | pb_ | strange |
| 19:52.34 | pb_ | certainly does sound like a power management issue |
| 19:53.20 | ade|desk | momch: ask kergoth about it |
| 19:56.49 | pb_ | florian: I think I will (finally!) attempt to install on my SIMpad today. |
| 19:57.00 | pb_ | is there a moderately recent image? |
| 19:58.13 | florian | pb_: not really... the one linked in the wiki i fear... |
| 19:58.33 | pb_ | okay |
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| 19:58.47 | mccarthy | ok. so my ipkg is fooked |
| 19:58.50 | pb_ | hi mccarthy |
| 19:58.57 | pb_ | sounds bad |
| 19:58.57 | mccarthy | what is a nice image to get me started again? |
| 19:59.00 | mccarthy | hi pb_ :) |
| 19:59.05 | pb_ | 0.7.2-rc3, I suppose |
| 19:59.14 | mccarthy | from your unstable thingie? |
| 19:59.23 | pb_ | no, see the topic |
| 19:59.32 | mccarthy | oh....I do read occasionally :) |
| 19:59.46 | mccarthy | (but apparently I dont actually hack on gpe anymore now do I?) |
| 19:59.49 | pb_ | heh. I never read the topic either, I must admit |
| 19:59.59 | pb_ | mccarthy: so it seems :-/ |
| 20:00.20 | pb_ | I suppose chemical engineering owns you at the moment. |
| 20:00.49 | mccarthy | pb_: well, that and baby number three (Lauren, just showed up on Friday. Yay!) |
| 20:01.04 | pb_ | ah, congratulations |
| 20:01.18 | mccarthy | that makes 4 to 1 in my house. I think men will never catch up again :( |
| 20:01.22 | mccarthy | pb_: thanks |
| 20:02.52 | mccarthy | pb_: gpe-calendar doesn't seem to be handling my (daylight savings) time change very well :( |
| 20:03.08 | pb_ | yeah, reenoo mentioned that too. I don't know what's gone wrong. |
| 20:03.24 | pb_ | it sucks that we only get to test this twice a year. :-} |
| 20:03.26 | mccarthy | pb_: so you were under the impression that it worked before as well? |
| 20:03.39 | pb_ | yeah. I thought we fixed it back in the spring. |
| 20:04.03 | pb_ | well, maybe we did, and it just got broken again during the summer months. |
| 20:08.34 | mallum | mccarthy: congrats :-) |
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| 20:22.11 | dc_ | hey dudes! |
| 20:22.35 | dc_ | mallum: you know there's a picture of you at the linuxexpo in the latest copy of linux format. |
| 20:22.43 | pb_ | yo dc_! |
| 20:22.57 | mallum | dc_: heh really ? |
| 20:23.06 | mallum | dc_: FAME AT LAST !!! |
| 20:23.21 | mallum | hehe |
| 20:23.23 | dc_ | yeah, you're standing by the ORGs stand with all the pdas out :] |
| 20:23.24 | dc_ | yay |
| 20:23.25 | dc_ | hehe |
| 20:23.26 | dc_ | hey pb_ |
| 20:23.31 | dc_ | omg. |
| 20:23.39 | dc_ | yeah, Im in it too |
| 20:23.50 | dc_ | yay |
| 20:24.26 | mallum | dc_: heh, annoying the ARM people with there crappy ugly boards running familiar 0.1 ;-) |
| 20:24.52 | dc_ | sure were |
| 20:27.15 | dc_ | anyhow. |
| 20:27.22 | dc_ | any exciting new news? |
| 20:28.06 | mallum | dc_: the earth is round not flat !! |
| 20:31.45 | dc_ | right. |
| 20:31.48 | dc_ | of course it is. |
| 20:32.00 | pb_ | florian: right, I'm downloading simpad-gpe2-20030728. fingers crossed. |
| 20:33.51 | florian | pb_: ohe, this is some days old :-) |
| 20:34.05 | pb_ | florian: yah, I guessed as much from the filename :-} |
| 20:34.29 | pb_ | I did consider downloading the OpenSIMpad image and trying to remove opie, but that seemed like a bad idea. |
| 20:34.35 | mallum | pb_ got a simpad ? |
| 20:34.43 | pb_ | yeah |
| 20:34.43 | dc_ | pb_ has everything. |
| 20:34.48 | dc_ | hehe |
| 20:34.56 | florian | yeah... |
| 20:35.16 | pb_ | I've actually had it for ages, but haven't yet managed to get myself together and install linux on it. |
| 20:35.21 | mallum | flash |
| 20:35.30 | dc_ | mallum: microdrive too slow? |
| 20:35.39 | mallum | dc_: microdrives are so 1999 |
| 20:35.50 | dc_ | this is true |
| 20:36.04 | mallum | dc_: 1Gb flash for just over a 100 quid now |
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| 20:39.04 | dc__ | I'm a college boy, so I'm not allowed to have money anymore |
| 20:39.24 | dc__ | I have to be poor. and put town the resolution of my monitor. |
| 20:40.11 | pb_ | ah, sucks to be a student. |
| 20:41.00 | mallum | dc__: but cant you get student loads, there good for wasteing on uneeded electronic toys |
| 20:41.18 | dc__ | loans you mean? |
| 20:41.23 | mallum | yeah |
| 20:41.34 | dc__ | probably. |
| 20:42.15 | pb_ | dc__: did you figure out a way to install debian on your laptop? |
| 20:43.03 | dc__ | well. I've kind of decided to avoid it, because I really don't want to have to reinstall osx, and I really really don't want to have to open my laptop again. |
| 20:43.10 | dc__ | considering last time I did it the cpu broke. |
| 20:43.30 | mallum | dc__: dont the laptop have pcmcia ? |
| 20:43.43 | dc__ | indeed. |
| 20:43.59 | pb_ | dc__: right, I can see how that would be bad news. |
| 20:44.07 | mallum | dc__: couldn't you just put a supported wireless card in that ? |
| 20:44.17 | pb_ | be kind of embarrassing to have to send it back for repair again so soon. |
| 20:45.00 | dc__ | I guess, but then I lose my 802.11g-ness. which means I won't be able to get the wifi in my whole room |
| 20:45.32 | mallum | dc__: do some 802.11g card work with linux now ? |
| 20:45.46 | dc__ | heh. |
| 20:46.03 | dc__ | well. I'd prefer to own an iPod. |
| 20:46.12 | mallum | dc__: did you fork out 100 quid for panther ? |
| 20:46.13 | collord | not broadcom on ppc |
| 20:46.22 | dc__ | mallum: god no. |
| 20:46.41 | dc__ | do any broadcom chips work with linux yet? |
| 20:46.48 | mallum | dc__: how will you fix OSX bugs then ? |
| 20:46.59 | dc__ | hehe |
| 20:47.18 | mallum | dc__: you have to pay your Apple bug fix tax |
| 20:47.28 | dc__ | true. |
| 20:47.46 | dc__ | imagine how evil it would be to steal a version of panther, and then, fix bugs on it. |
| 20:47.59 | dc__ | probably get sued. |
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| 20:55.39 | pb_ | florian: crumbs, what's in the simpadtools package? |
| 20:57.57 | dc__ | mallum: oh. can you upload that version of mplayer you compiled? |
| 20:58.12 | dc__ | mallum: I've had very limited success with anything xine on the Z |
| 20:59.55 | mallum | dc__: its not as simple as that :/ you need to copy some libs across from original qt distro, prolly need new kernel, a couple of goats to sacrifice |
| 21:00.19 | florian | pb_: in the ipk or the archive? |
| 21:00.32 | pb_ | florian: the tgz |
| 21:00.35 | dc__ | mallum: ah, damn those gods. |
| 21:00.51 | pb_ | florian: I was just a bit surprised how large it was, though it's downloaded now |
| 21:00.54 | mallum | dc__: I cant remember the exact details. google for mplayer w100 and you can practise your japanease |
| 21:00.58 | dc__ | mallum: feels like letting dd free on your Z's flash sometime then? |
| 21:01.10 | pb_ | ah |
| 21:01.11 | florian | pb_: maybe a bug :-/ |
| 21:01.12 | pb_ | -rw-r--r-- 500/500 2024907 2002-02-03 11:31:07 simpadtools/initrd |
| 21:01.13 | pb_ | heh |
| 21:01.13 | mallum | dc__: dd ? |
| 21:01.25 | florian | eeh... |
| 21:01.27 | mallum | dc__: oh the command |
| 21:01.34 | dc__ | :-] |
| 21:02.11 | mallum | dc__: will a c760 Image work on a c700 ... I dont think so |
| 21:03.15 | pb_ | I hear OZ buildroot is very last year. |
| 21:03.17 | dc__ | these japs are insane. |
| 21:03.23 | dc__ | but we won't seem to see many round. |
| 21:03.31 | dc__ | heh. even an ipk. |
| 21:03.37 | mallum | pb_: is OE capable of producing jffs images now ? |
| 21:03.41 | pb_ | apparently |
| 21:03.57 | mallum | pb_: and a make menuconfig ? |
| 21:04.03 | pb_ | dunno |
| 21:05.13 | dc__ | mallum: ah, so mplayer w100 is supposed to use the qt fb? |
| 21:05.46 | mallum | dc__: no it uses a vidix driver which speaks to the ati lib which speaks to the ati chip |
| 21:05.55 | mallum | dc__: the ati lib is binary only :/ |
| 21:05.58 | dc__ | how fun. |
| 21:09.19 | mallum | bbiab |
| 21:21.39 | mccarthy | mallum: thanks |
| 21:21.43 | mccarthy | dc__: hello there. |
| 21:43.11 | reenoo | mccarthy: glad it's not only me who has dst related trouble ;) |
| 21:49.50 | pb_ | :-} |
| 21:50.07 | pb_ | mmm, this whole timezone thing in gpe-calendar is all such a nightmare. |
| 21:52.04 | mccarthy | reenoo: how does your issue manifest itself? for meit is a recurring event that changes time after the dst switch |
| 21:52.46 | pb_ | mccarthy: oh, it's happening an hour too early now? |
| 21:52.56 | mccarthy | pb_: yep |
| 21:53.05 | pb_ | okay, that one at least I understand. |
| 21:53.11 | mccarthy | this could be my fault since it is a recurring thing |
| 21:53.35 | mccarthy | not that I would blame *you* if it wasnt a recurring thing ;) |
| 21:53.36 | pb_ | mccarthy: I bet the recurrence code is just adding a multiple of 24 hours to the original time. |
| 21:53.50 | mccarthy | pb_: probably.... |
| 21:54.10 | pb_ | it probably needs to convert it into local time and then back again, to take account of dst changes. |
| 21:56.17 | pb_ | I'm not sure what to do about the corner cases around DST, like if you set an alarm at 01:30 on the day DST changes. But we probably don't need to care about that too much. |
| 21:57.03 | mccarthy | pb_: anyone that schedules something at that time is a dolt anyway, right? :) |
| 21:57.21 | pb_ | right! |
| 21:59.29 | reenoo | recurring events are scheduled an hour late here. but maybe that's because I'm running 0.7.1 atm. |
| 22:00.02 | reenoo | i.e.: original start == 8:00; current start == 9:00 |
| 22:01.16 | mccarthy | reenoo: that seems weird, but it is definitely a recurring event issue? |
| 22:03.56 | reenoo | well... it's the way I described the situation for all recurring events. no non recurring events to compare this to. sorry. |
| 22:05.20 | mccarthy | pb_: I might take a look at this tonight or tomorrow.... |
| 22:05.21 | mccarthy | later all |
| 22:08.12 | reenoo | anyways. it's scary how much I've got used to using the ipaq as swap space for my brain ;) |
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| 22:17.02 | dc__ | oh, mccarthy is still alive. |
| 22:17.03 | dc__ | interesting. |
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| 22:40.35 | omgthner | has anyone got gba games to work on the ipaq??? |
| 22:41.30 | mallum | omgthner: no but I have got them to work on my gba |
| 22:41.40 | omgthner | lol |
| 22:41.46 | dc___ | mallum: wow really. |
| 22:41.51 | dc___ | mallum: you're a leet haxor |
| 22:41.58 | omgthner | burn |
| 22:42.01 | omgthner | lol |
| 22:42.04 | dc___ | hehe |
| 22:42.35 | omgthner | i found an emulator but it screw up my ipaq just wondering if anyone else has tried? |
| 22:42.47 | mallum | omgthner: I think the ipaq is prolly too slow |
| 22:42.52 | dc___ | ah yeah. I've used a binary emulator for linux. |
| 22:42.56 | mallum | omgthner: what emu did you try ? |
| 22:43.05 | dc___ | but that was very even on my 1.7GHz |
| 22:43.22 | dc___ | s/very/very slow/ |
| 22:43.34 | omgthner | dam |
| 22:43.49 | mallum | omgthner: Id just buy one. there smaller than the ipaq and rock |
| 22:43.50 | omgthner | i guess i will be playing only java games |
| 22:44.11 | omgthner | i need something to do when i am in class |
| 22:44.16 | mallum | omgthner: theres the snes9x which runs ok |
| 22:44.17 | dc___ | doh |
| 22:44.27 | mallum | omgthner: playing GAMES in CLASS !!! |
| 22:44.37 | omgthner | java games have better graphics compare to snes |
| 22:44.59 | omgthner | the prof. is boring and i am sick of web surfing |
| 22:45.02 | dc___ | omgthner: slacker. |
| 22:45.03 | dc___ | hehe |
| 22:45.05 | omgthner | lol |
| 22:45.13 | mallum | omgthner: buy a gba and advance wars II |
| 22:45.19 | dc___ | god yeah |
| 22:45.20 | omgthner | proud to be one |
| 22:45.22 | mallum | omgthner: your life will be fullfilled |
| 22:45.29 | omgthner | lol |
| 22:45.45 | dc___ | then buy a gamecube, and a projector, and play it on your walls, yay. |
| 22:45.51 | omgthner | can' bring them into class if the prof catch me it is over |
| 22:46.11 | omgthner | at least with the ipaq i can say i am writing down my work |
| 22:46.13 | omgthner | lol |
| 22:46.26 | omgthner | gamecube lol |
| 22:46.34 | mallum | dc__: I dont know if a UK gba adaptor will work on a US gamecube :/ |
| 22:46.34 | dc___ | hum. do we think hot milk will get colder, faster than cold milk will get warm, or vice versa? |
| 22:46.50 | dc___ | mallum: :-/ |
| 22:46.57 | dc___ | mallum: oh yeah, you have a projector. |
| 22:46.58 | dc___ | hehe |
| 22:47.03 | dc___ | hrm, |
| 22:47.12 | dc___ | I'm set to buy an xbox when halo2 comes out. |
| 22:47.15 | omgthner | one mirror one focus lens and a box with a light and you have a cheep projecter |
| 22:47.15 | dc___ | oh an. |
| 22:47.16 | dc___ | d. |
| 22:47.23 | dc___ | halo is out for os x soon. |
| 22:47.28 | dc___ | omgthner: . |
| 22:47.33 | mallum | dc___: prolly need panther |
| 22:47.41 | omgthner | < i am a poor student |
| 22:47.59 | dc___ | mallum: quiet you. |
| 22:48.00 | dc___ | hehe |
| 22:48.05 | omgthner | lol |
| 22:48.26 | mallum | dc___: face it, you may as well be using windows |
| 22:48.37 | mallum | dc___: that has some BSD code too dunnit ? |
| 22:48.50 | mallum | dc___: or install cygwin |
| 22:49.06 | *** join/#gpe Arndt (~derek@68.118.156.199) |
| 22:50.35 | dc___ | mallum: you haxor some broadcom pcc drivers and I'll install debian right away |
| 22:50.48 | dc___ | omgthner: oh yeah. |
| 22:51.08 | dc___ | omgthner: I almost forgot. I'm at college now. it's regulation to be poor. |
| 22:51.24 | mallum | dc___: just get a 20 pound wifi card and stick it in the pcmcia slot |
| 22:52.11 | dc___ | mallum: but.... it's all the way in my drawer. |
| 22:52.22 | dc___ | mallum: which is just over arms length away. |
| 22:52.26 | mallum | dc___: ? |
| 22:52.38 | dc___ | my card. |
| 22:52.46 | mallum | dc___: so week |
| 22:53.37 | mallum | dc___: dont just running 'top' on that laptop make you want to switch ? |
| 22:54.31 | dc___ | but then, I won't be able to boast about my uber 512Mb of memory that makes 'Terminal' so fast. |
| 22:55.02 | dc___ | omfg. |
| 22:55.18 | dc___ | um, which stat is the actual memory usage of a program? |
| 22:55.31 | pb_ | none, though rss is closest |
| 22:55.42 | dc___ | RPRVT RSHRD RSIZE VSIZE |
| 22:55.47 | pb_ | rsize then |
| 22:55.48 | dc___ | that's all I have memory wise. |
| 22:55.55 | dc___ | omfg. |
| 22:56.12 | dc___ | yeah. mallum, that does make me want to switch |
| 22:56.17 | mallum | dc___: iirc , a term uses approx 150Mb |
| 22:56.43 | dc___ | well, safari the web browser is using 35 |
| 22:57.17 | pb_ | what's it say for rprvt? that might be a better headline number. |
| 22:57.28 | mallum | dc___: apple probably hiding it all in video card memory |
| 22:58.05 | dc___ | 22mb |
| 22:59.05 | pb_ | heh. |
| 23:00.09 | pb_ | dang, no tslib in familiar |
| 23:00.48 | dc___ | but it's all so, aqua |
| 23:01.21 | omgthner | i am back sorry |
| 23:01.35 | mallum | omgthner: sorry for what ? |
| 23:01.49 | dc___ | mallum: being a slacker obviously. |
| 23:01.50 | omgthner | leaving in the middle of the chat |
| 23:01.52 | mallum | omgthner: sorry for dc___ using OSx ? Thats understandable . |
| 23:01.54 | dc___ | heheheh ;-) |
| 23:01.57 | dc___ | ! |
| 23:02.05 | omgthner | MAC must die |
| 23:02.06 | omgthner | lol |
| 23:02.13 | Hallski | give me a powermac so I can run osx aswell! |
| 23:02.26 | omgthner | Run yellowdog |
| 23:02.26 | dc___ | yay |
| 23:02.35 | omgthner | it is better |
| 23:02.38 | dc___ | yellowdog. |
| 23:02.46 | dc___ | god didn't make yellowdogs |
| 23:02.50 | omgthner | or if you have alot of time install beos |
| 23:02.54 | dc___ | so ovbiously it wasn't intented for this world. |
| 23:02.56 | omgthner | lol |
| 23:02.57 | dc___ | ovbiously! |
| 23:03.09 | mallum | dc___: when are you gonna start writing shareware ? |
| 23:03.32 | mallum | pb_: there is tslib packages here http://handhelds.org/~mallum/xpkgs/, which should work fine in familiar |
| 23:03.38 | dc___ | once all those other shareware developers piss me off enough |
| 23:03.38 | omgthner | are you two working on the gpe os?? |
| 23:03.54 | dc___ | omgthner: I think I am. |
| 23:04.04 | mallum | omgthner: one of the pugs is yellowish |
| 23:04.15 | omgthner | ?? |
| 23:04.23 | omgthner | pugs id yellowish |
| 23:04.28 | omgthner | is |
| 23:04.30 | dc___ | better not visit your place anymore, it might own me. |
| 23:04.35 | mallum | Hallski: I pray you are not serious. |
| 23:04.44 | dc___ | or my laptop. |
| 23:05.05 | omgthner | lol i have an old powermac laptop |
| 23:05.06 | mallum | dc___: I dug a handful of pug hair out of my tibook keyboard today |
| 23:05.16 | omgthner | i use it to hold my door open |
| 23:05.22 | Hallski | mallum, pray all you want homeboy! |
| 23:05.28 | omgthner | \that is the only thing its usefull in |
| 23:05.33 | dc___ | mallum: ouch. |
| 23:05.39 | Arndt | it's crunch time |
| 23:05.45 | dc___ | hehe |
| 23:05.55 | mallum | dc___: it seriously was a handful. quite amazing |
| 23:05.57 | Hallski | I want a sexy laptop god damn it |
| 23:05.58 | dc___ | the os x resistance grows |
| 23:06.10 | mallum | Hallski: sexy laptop, not sexy os |
| 23:06.11 | Hallski | don't care much for macos though |
| 23:06.24 | Hallski | though it'd be nice to have a recent copy of macos for testing |
| 23:06.24 | dc___ | mallum: how did you get it out? |
| 23:06.26 | mallum | I kind of like moc os 9 |
| 23:06.31 | Arndt | dc___: what the heck is X? |
| 23:06.45 | omgthner | Hallski: do you want a hole in the middle of the latop for you #$%%^$#^ |
| 23:06.48 | mallum | dc___: pen knife between keys |
| 23:07.16 | dc___ | hahahahah |
| 23:07.24 | dc___ | Arndt: someone has to do it. |
| 23:07.29 | Hallski | eeeeeeeeek! |
| 23:07.30 | pb_ | mallum: thanks. I just uploaded a libts-0.0-0 to unstable, though, which ought to meet my requirements for now |
| 23:07.33 | dc___ | argf |
| 23:07.53 | omgthner | WHen is the new Gpe rc going to be release???? |
| 23:08.05 | mallum | pb_: cool. remember you have to set a couple of en vars for it to work ok on ipaq at least |
| 23:08.14 | dc___ | omgthner: when god creates yellow dogs |
| 23:08.15 | mallum | pb_: I think it just works on simpad though |
| 23:08.29 | pb_ | yah. I don't want to actually use it on the ipaq, but the xserver won't run without it. |
| 23:08.37 | dc___ | phew |
| 23:09.03 | dc___ | there must be some lame partition magic app. |
| 23:09.57 | dc___ | pug. |
| 23:09.58 | dc___ | rather. |
| 23:10.02 | mallum | dc___: I know macos9 couldn't handle resized partitions but osx too hahahahahahahaha |
| 23:12.08 | Hallski | mallum, hahahah, yeah right |
| 23:12.09 | mallum | dc___: you should have installed debian from day one |
| 23:12.23 | dc___ | true. |
| 23:12.33 | mallum | but you DIDN'T |
| 23:12.42 | pb_ | ah, darn, can't have both tslib and h3600_ts in the xserver anyway. |
| 23:12.47 | pb_ | looks like I need to recompile without that. |
| 23:12.54 | mallum | pb_: I was just saying that the keithp |
| 23:13.09 | pb_ | ah. |
| 23:13.24 | mallum | pb_: he changed it to autodetect them both, fine if you got one installed but will break if both are there |
| 23:13.24 | pb_ | seems it should be relatively easy to fix, but I don't feel strong enough to do that right now. |
| 23:14.00 | pb_ | well, it won't break as such, it's just that tslib will be used to the exclusion of h3600_ts. |
| 23:14.57 | mallum | pb_: thats probably how it should work ? |
| 23:15.33 | pb_ | seems a bit dumb building the h3600_ts code and then not using it. I think it should use that if the device exists, otherwise tslib. |
| 23:16.34 | mallum | pb_: or just either|or . I cant think of a situation where you'd want tslib and ipaq way |
| 23:19.04 | mallum | pb_: its likely /dev/ts will exist but will return a format different to what kdrive expects |
| 23:19.20 | *** part/#gpe omgthner (~Om@4.35.252.26) |
| 23:20.33 | mallum | pb_: and I dont think kdrive would in all cases be able to detect that |
| 23:20.35 | pb_ | ah, yes, h3600_ts driver does look for /dev/ts as well. |
| 23:21.19 | pb_ | that'd be good. |
| 23:21.33 | pb_ | what's the current status? |
| 23:22.24 | mallum | pb_: I have the basic stubs in place, I know how to connect it all togeather. The main problem is figuring out the specifics of whats needed in the protocol |
| 23:22.46 | pb_ | I think you just need one event and one request. |
| 23:23.08 | pb_ | event to deliver raw touchscreen data stream, and a request to turn it on and off. |
| 23:24.31 | mallum | pb_: yep. thats what Im thinking |
| 23:26.34 | mallum | pb_: it may not even need the extra event. Just return unfiltered co-ords as filtered ones |
| 23:26.41 | *** join/#gpe paul (~paul@hibernia.jakma.org) |
| 23:28.28 | mallum | pb_: X code is pretty strange ... hard to figure out some of the conventions |
| 23:29.14 | pb_ | mmm, yes, possibly. but raw coordinates can be wacky numbers: negative, really large and so on. not sure if they'd make it through the normal delivery mechanism intact. |
| 23:29.41 | mallum | pb_: yeah that was my worry too |
| 23:30.21 | pb_ | also, if you just stuff raw coordinates in as a substitute for the cooked ones, it would mean that all clients suddenly started receiving raw data. A separate event would mean that this stream was confined to the client that requested it. |
| 23:30.44 | mallum | pb_: though tslib defines x,y as an int as does an XEvent |
| 23:31.40 | pb_ | yep. I don't think they will be unrepresentable, just that they may well be off the screen. |
| 23:31.41 | mallum | pb_: problem with that is I dont think you'd be able to get raw and filtered events well at the same time from tslib |
| 23:32.29 | pb_ | I think tslib could be enhanced to do that. Internally it reads raw events and then filters them, so you would just need a side door to allow you to pull the raw data out, copy it, and then push it back in again for normal processing. |
| 23:32.58 | pb_ | or you could just suspend delivery of regular events while in raw mode, which would probably be better anyway. |
| 23:34.19 | mallum | pb_: yeah, when calibrating the screen you unlikely to allow any event delivery to other clients anyway |
| 23:34.40 | pb_ | indeed |
| 23:35.01 | mallum | pb_: I need to expeiment |
| 23:35.41 | pb_ | ok |
| 23:35.56 | mallum | jg: are you awake ? |
| 23:50.16 | mallum | pb_: I will hammer it out tommorw, I think things are becoming clear |
| 23:53.39 | pb_ | great! |
| 23:56.03 | *** join/#gpe jsmanrique (jsmanrique@cmr-213-141-40-107.telecable.es) |
| 23:56.08 | jsmanrique | hi! |
| 23:56.14 | pb_ | hi jsmanrique |
| 23:56.32 | jsmanrique | pb_: how to get wifi working in h5450? |
| 23:56.59 | pb_ | jsmanrique: should just be a case of setting the right options with iwconfig, then dhcpcd wlan0 |
| 23:57.11 | pb_ | as a starting point, try iwconfig mode managed essid any |
| 23:57.22 | jsmanrique | ok |
| 23:57.32 | Hallski | hmm .. is the latest boot rom 14Mb? |
| 23:57.39 | pb_ | sounds about right |
| 23:57.52 | Hallski | how much mem is available in a 3600? |
| 23:57.59 | pb_ | flash? 16MB |
| 23:58.09 | pb_ | minus 256k for bootldr, so 15.75MB really |
| 23:58.20 | Hallski | hmm .. ok |