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| 08:15.29 | florian_kc | hi all! |
| 08:17.29 | ryan_ | hey |
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| 08:20.00 | pb_ | morning |
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| 08:28.46 | florian_kc | hi ryan_ |
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| 08:43.59 | pb_ | hi florian_kc |
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| 08:57.33 | pb_ | pigeon: evening |
| 08:57.42 | pigeon | pb_: yo! |
| 08:58.04 | pigeon | hopefully I'll be trying to use linexec on my xda this weekend |
| 08:58.28 | pb_ | excellent |
| 08:58.44 | pigeon | going to try it on a 3630 first i guess |
| 08:58.53 | pigeon | need to get it to work with strongarm first. |
| 08:59.01 | pigeon | according to joshua_ |
| 09:00.28 | pb_ | right |
| 09:10.49 | ryan_ | pb_: |
| 09:10.52 | ryan_ | h5400_touchscreen_init: adc_sample_period=10 adc_spins_max=1000 adc_pen_delay=1000 adc_delay=500 touchscreen_delay=0 |
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| 09:51.16 | mallum | http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/screenshots.html |
| 09:53.56 | florian_kc | hi mallum |
| 09:54.07 | florian_kc | mallum: Ohhh... cool! |
| 09:54.29 | florian_kc | mallum: Looks very nice... what's it's size?! |
| 09:56.16 | pigeon | wow, neat! |
| 09:57.37 | pigeon | got any ipkg yet? ;) |
| 09:58.40 | tigert | that looks cool |
| 09:58.45 | pigeon | hmm as i remember, cross compiling mozilla isn't fun :\ |
| 09:58.50 | tigert | it should probably scale images to 50% as an option :) |
| 09:59.56 | pigeon | very true |
| 10:00.01 | pigeon | hacking time i guess :) |
| 10:00.28 | pigeon | basically whole page scaling option, like the one i did ages ago for dillo. |
| 10:01.03 | mallum | The last one I built was about 10Mb, the picts on the minimo site arn't mine |
| 10:01.25 | pigeon | native or cross compile? |
| 10:01.34 | mallum | Im trying to get distcc to work with x-compilers so I can get a new build going quickly |
| 10:01.44 | mallum | pigeon: I built my last natively |
| 10:01.45 | florian_kc | pigeon: You are dillo hacker? :-) |
| 10:02.08 | pigeon | florian_kc: it was so long time ago |
| 10:02.25 | florian_kc | 10mb is much better than my last try... we are getting closer :-) |
| 10:02.34 | mallum | pigeon: its gonna take some hacks to ipkg and it all expects to run from a single dir - theres no make install step |
| 10:02.43 | pigeon | the scaling feature for dillo on ipaq which a lot of people liked it at that time, but dillo people never liked it. |
| 10:02.49 | florian_kc | pigeon: hmm... dillo could need much of help... |
| 10:02.53 | pigeon | well, it was a "hack", so... |
| 10:02.59 | mallum | florian_kc: it works *really* nice on the c7x0's |
| 10:03.02 | pigeon | mallum: oh |
| 10:03.26 | mallum | florian_kc: it starts up quicker on that than big moz on my 2ghz beast |
| 10:03.36 | pigeon | ok... I'm now installing... hmm... *cough*eVC++*cough* |
| 10:04.26 | pigeon | mallum: did you mean static 10mb? |
| 10:04.40 | florian_kc | pigeon: The dillo people seem to dislike nearly everything, if we had gtk2 and ssl in this prject it would be really cool... and there were patches for both :-/ |
| 10:04.58 | pigeon | yeah. |
| 10:04.58 | mallum | pigeon: shared total |
| 10:05.06 | pigeon | mallum: ah ok... |
| 10:05.39 | florian_kc | mallum: yeah, additionally the zaurus is way better for web browsing... |
| 10:05.57 | mallum | florian_kc: yeah, web browsing at 320x240 is kind of painful |
| 10:06.14 | mallum | florian_kc: though opera on the phones does a really good job of making pages smaller |
| 10:07.01 | florian_kc | mallum: yep, with some more intelligent browsers it could be better. |
| 10:07.51 | florian_kc | mallum: if the dillo people would adapt patches a little bit easier we would have all these nice features in dillo :-/ |
| 10:07.58 | mallum | florian_kc: fork it |
| 10:08.09 | pigeon | fcsk it |
| 10:08.12 | pigeon | ;) |
| 10:09.29 | florian_kc | mallum: Sounds like a good idea, but this no job for a single person - in particular not for me... |
| 10:09.54 | mallum | florian_kc: yeah need more developers |
| 10:10.09 | florian_kc | But it might be an idea to think about a general GPE related fork of dillo... |
| 10:10.25 | pigeon | gillo :) |
| 10:10.45 | pigeon | gpillow :P |
| 10:11.12 | florian_kc | mallum: yes, we need to pass this need to our marketing department ;-) |
| 10:11.30 | pigeon | lol |
| 10:11.47 | florian_kc | gpe-pillow ;-) |
| 10:12.53 | pb_ | florian_kc: btw, there is an updated dillo patch for gtk2 now |
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| 10:16.16 | florian_kc | pb_: ohh cool, who did this?! |
| 10:16.20 | florian_kc | hi herzi |
| 10:21.54 | herzi | tach florian_kc |
| 10:24.28 | ryan_ | how do i upload a jffs2 file so that i can boot off of it |
| 10:25.39 | pigeon | what arch is SH3/SH4? |
| 10:26.01 | florian_kc | ryan_: From bootldr? "load root" imho |
| 10:26.13 | ryan_ | kk |
| 10:26.15 | ryan_ | ill try |
| 10:27.05 | florian_kc | pigeon: This is an Hitachi controler, afaik there is a working ucLinux for it. |
| 10:27.26 | florian_kc | Hmm... this was tha H8... |
| 10:27.41 | pigeon | hmm ok |
| 10:27.49 | pigeon | so i have nothing to do with it. |
| 10:29.25 | pigeon | ok, this is ignoring, m$ has done it again. |
| 10:30.14 | pigeon | s/ignoring/annoying/ |
| 10:30.45 | florian_kc | pigeon: eh? ok the SH* seem to be a real CPU, afaik mips based or similar |
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| 10:31.24 | pigeon | florian_kc: installing evc in order to build linexec, and the installation program is stupid |
| 10:32.06 | florian_kc | pigeon: ah :-) |
| 10:32.14 | pigeon | it forces me to install it on c:, which i don't have enough diskspace. |
| 10:32.34 | pigeon | and it's ignoring my f: |
| 10:32.49 | pigeon | even if i ask it to install there |
| 11:21.38 | mallum | my distcc experiments seem to work , I get a 2.5x speed up using 1 extra x86 host with x-compiler |
| 11:23.10 | florian_kc | mallum: hehe, this i good to know... i'll try this too :-) |
| 11:23.57 | mallum | florian_kc: Im using the OZ 3.3.2 x-gcc which matches the debian gcc on ARM |
| 11:24.42 | mallum | florian_kc: I need to get my RHL machine to join the cluster too |
| 11:24.44 | florian_kc | mallum: cool, then i only need a gtk x-toolchain using a new gcc |
| 11:25.25 | mallum | florian_kc: you only need gcc on remote slaves, all linking etc still takes place on ARM host |
| 11:25.45 | florian_kc | mallum: I need to get the others at kc to join, this could make compiling really funny :-) |
| 11:26.31 | florian_kc | mallum: oh, this is good... then this should work quite easy with kernels :-) |
| 11:27.35 | mallum | florian_kc: yeah, you need 100Mbit networking between hosts too |
| 11:28.15 | florian_kc | mallum: Sure, but we have 100Mbit nearly everywhere... :-) |
| 11:28.24 | mallum | florian_kc: :-) |
| 11:28.58 | mallum | florian_kc: things like my tablet and laptop are connected via wifi so no good |
| 11:29.38 | florian_kc | mallum: ok, these should slow down it quite much... |
| 11:29.43 | florian_kc | i think# |
| 11:34.20 | mallum | florian_kc: yeah you definetly need fast networking or it wont work good |
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| 12:29.16 | pigeon | for god sake |
| 12:35.46 | pb_ | mm? |
| 12:36.55 | pb_ | florian_kc, pigeon; SH, aka SuperH, is a cpu architecture in its own right; not related to mips. |
| 12:37.08 | pb_ | originally from hitachi, now owned by SuperH Inc iirc. |
| 12:37.21 | pigeon | pb_: ah... ok... |
| 12:37.28 | pb_ | see, er, www.superh.com |
| 12:37.43 | florian_kc | pb_: ok, good to know... let me see... |
| 12:38.24 | pigeon | anything interesting with that arch? |
| 12:38.34 | pb_ | florian_kc: you're right that SH was originally an H8 derivative, but I don't think they have that much in common any more. |
| 12:39.09 | pb_ | nothing very interesting. can run linux on them, if you want, and there's a debian-sh port. |
| 12:39.29 | florian_kc | pb_: yes i see, looks like a real cpu with mmu and so on... |
| 12:40.47 | ryan_ | pb_: any way that i can 'trim' some un-needed "crap" out of the asic code... just for testing purposes? |
| 12:40.56 | ryan_ | do you think that would be a waste of time? |
| 12:41.19 | mallum | isn't the dreamcast super-H ? |
| 12:42.44 | pb_ | yes, I think so. |
| 12:42.52 | pb_ | ryan_: I think that would be a waste of time. |
| 12:42.57 | ryan_ | pb_: ahh k |
| 12:43.11 | ryan_ | im noticing something peculear here (sp?) |
| 12:43.29 | ryan_ | when 0x14080000 == 0x4998, it seems to crash |
| 12:44.19 | florian_kc | Hmm... debian on dreamcast?! |
| 12:45.07 | pigeon | yes, i almost bought a dc just for running linux, i remember |
| 12:46.21 | florian_kc | This should be quite cheap now :-) |
| 12:47.15 | pigeon | but i'll need to get a tv as well. |
| 12:48.27 | florian_kc | that's true... |
| 12:48.38 | pb_ | florian_kc: if Nils is there, you might mention to him that I haven't forgotten the c750 driver issue, and will look at it soonest. probably later today, or over the weekend. |
| 12:49.44 | pigeon | florian_kc: yeah, cos i don't actually have a tv atm ;) |
| 12:50.32 | florian_kc | pb_: I'll tell him... sounds like you are back at nexus? |
| 12:50.54 | florian_kc | pigeon: the same for me... :-) |
| 12:51.42 | pigeon | got me into the interest of getting a tv tuner card though recently. |
| 12:55.25 | pb_ | florian_kc: yep, I've been at Nexus this morning attending to some sysadmin duties, but I must return to ARM imminently. |
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| 12:56.21 | jsmanrique | hi! |
| 12:57.31 | florian_kc | pb_: oops |
| 12:57.35 | florian_kc | jsmanrique: hi |
| 12:58.08 | jsmanrique | I have "good news" for embedded linux developers! |
| 12:58.31 | florian_kc | jsmanrique: Tell us... |
| 12:58.59 | jsmanrique | our teacher has aprobed the idea for marketing Linux embbeded devices for classroom, for the students to be used as thin terminals |
| 12:59.13 | jsmanrique | I have showed a iPAQ PDA and he liked it |
| 12:59.31 | jsmanrique | now, I have to search Linux embedded developers and manufacturers |
| 13:00.11 | pigeon | wow, more jobs? ;) |
| 13:00.28 | florian_kc | Hey, this sounds good... sounds like work :-) |
| 13:00.33 | jsmanrique | yes |
| 13:00.43 | jsmanrique | we aren't technological experts |
| 13:00.57 | jsmanrique | so, we should contact with developers and manufacturers |
| 13:01.58 | jsmanrique | the idea is a simpad like device that has some PIM capabilities, math, and good conectivity |
| 13:02.02 | jsmanrique | what do you think? |
| 13:02.05 | jsmanrique | any idea? |
| 13:03.50 | florian_kc | Simpad like is good, but depends on the price... |
| 13:04.18 | jsmanrique | what would be expected price for such device.. |
| 13:04.26 | jsmanrique | I would like 400-500 Euros |
| 13:04.35 | jsmanrique | better 400 :-) |
| 13:04.45 | pb_ | how many do you plan to build? |
| 13:04.50 | jsmanrique | I am not talking about a mega-ipaq |
| 13:05.02 | jsmanrique | pb_: how many would be needed for that price? |
| 13:05.05 | florian_kc | Small amounts are expensive to produce, large screens like that one in the SIMpad are expensive. |
| 13:05.18 | jsmanrique | florian_kc: what about B/W option? |
| 13:05.32 | jsmanrique | florian_kc: of course, I would prefer color screen |
| 13:05.58 | jsmanrique | are there 6" screens with 800x600 support? |
| 13:05.59 | pb_ | jsmanrique: depends. does that need to include a custom case? |
| 13:06.11 | jsmanrique | pb_: custom case? |
| 13:06.28 | jsmanrique | pb_: just a plastic case, more or less ergonomic.. |
| 13:06.45 | jsmanrique | I've been searching for Taiwanese manufacturers |
| 13:06.52 | pb_ | designed specifically for this unit, or a standard part? |
| 13:06.55 | jsmanrique | but all work with StrongARM |
| 13:07.08 | jsmanrique | pb_: just adapted for this unit |
| 13:07.28 | florian_kc | jsmanrique: This should be ok for most purposes, it will be cheaper to get displays with good contrast. i think it will be better for reading... |
| 13:07.50 | jsmanrique | florian_kc: 6" ?? |
| 13:08.41 | jsmanrique | the idea is sell it (the whole infrastructure) to Universities, so they will give each new student a device to work in class |
| 13:08.54 | jsmanrique | how many do you think they will be? |
| 13:09.22 | jsmanrique | it should support usb (host/client to connect devices like keyboards or similar), pcmcia or cf and sd/mmc |
| 13:09.45 | jsmanrique | 6 to 8 hours battery (changeable) |
| 13:10.03 | florian_kc | jsmanrique: maybe, but not that cheap... we paid for a single 640x480 color tft (6,5") about EUR 200 |
| 13:10.28 | jsmanrique | we need to contact with manufacturers to get offers, sure some are here ;-) |
| 13:10.41 | jsmanrique | and GPE would be a great base for device software.. so think about it |
| 13:10.59 | florian_kc | jsmanrique: including ts, this was a LG LB064V2-B1 |
| 13:11.14 | jsmanrique | florian_kc: hmm |
| 13:11.26 | jsmanrique | florian_kc: looks good, how much for the rest of the device? |
| 13:11.46 | jsmanrique | ah, and we need minimo or miniMoz or what ever it is called |
| 13:12.21 | florian_kc | jsmanrique: pb_ is the guy who knows about usb... |
| 13:12.25 | jsmanrique | so I was thinking about 48 or 64MB FlashROM and 128MB SDRAM... |
| 13:12.45 | jsmanrique | but maybe it is too much for that price |
| 13:12.47 | florian_kc | jsmanrique: We used this for a Keith&Koep Triceps development platform... |
| 13:12.55 | jsmanrique | florian_kc: oh |
| 13:12.57 | jsmanrique | florian_kc: and? |
| 13:13.07 | jsmanrique | florian_kc: how does it work? |
| 13:13.43 | mallum | jsmanrique: minimo is ok in 64Mb of ram |
| 13:14.07 | florian_kc | jsmanrique: http://www.keith-koep.com/main/doc/index.htm, this works :-) |
| 13:14.42 | pb_ | jsmanrique: SDRAM is cheap, though the more you have the less your battery life will be. NAND flash is also fairly cheap nowadays. |
| 13:14.53 | jsmanrique | pb_: ok |
| 13:15.13 | jsmanrique | mallum: ah, my matchbox and minimo man !!! Hi! |
| 13:15.36 | florian_kc | jsmanrique: This Triceps is maybe a good platform... it is small :-) |
| 13:16.01 | jsmanrique | florian_kc: and its price? |
| 13:16.04 | florian_kc | jsmanrique: And at least on the Strongarm based ones we have basic linux support. |
| 13:16.14 | pb_ | bbl |
| 13:16.15 | mallum | jsmanrique: btw, have you seen http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/screenshots.html |
| 13:16.41 | florian_kc | jsmanrique: I think there are up to date prices on that site, they have at least an english section... |
| 13:16.47 | jsmanrique | mallum: no, thanks |
| 13:16.52 | florian_kc | pb_: cu later |
| 13:17.34 | jsmanrique | mallum: how does it work? (booting time, render speed, ...) |
| 13:18.10 | mallum | jsmanrique: works nice |
| 13:18.42 | mallum | Any one know what the prefered solution ( if any ) to get a CD to automount *if* is a data CD ? |
| 13:21.46 | jsmanrique | I have to leave |
| 13:21.57 | jsmanrique | your suggestions will be listened |
| 13:23.47 | florian_kc | jsmanrique: cu2 |
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| 13:52.26 | mallum | florian_kc: did you ever get a chance to add that check box to gpe-conf background ? |
| 13:54.15 | florian_kc | mallum: Not yet, but i'll check this later - at the moment xst doesn't support removing settings, but Phil wanted to add this feature... |
| 13:54.42 | mallum | florian_kc: urg |
| 13:55.09 | mallum | florian_kc: I really hope gconf-dbus gets updated soon ;-) |
| 13:55.29 | mallum | florian_kc: can it set it to nothing ? |
| 13:55.39 | florian_kc | mallum: i'll increase the priority for this :-) |
| 13:55.53 | florian_kc | mallum: yes, i think so |
| 14:06.40 | pigeon | hmm is there a detail handware spec on ipaq xscales somewhere on hh.org site? |
| 14:07.23 | florian_kc | pigeon: I don't think so, but on Intel website... |
| 14:07.39 | pigeon | ok |
| 14:10.07 | pigeon | hmm just wondering, for example: WritePhysical(0x48000014,0); // Reset PCMCIA |
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| 14:10.32 | pigeon | the 0x480014 will be some sort of address in the spec? |
| 14:11.02 | florian_kc | ohe... i think so - xscale is nasty :-/ |
| 14:11.14 | pigeon | hmm |
| 14:11.26 | pigeon | in fact i need to "port" this to strongarm |
| 14:12.08 | pigeon | there are shit loads of pdf doc for xscale on intel's site |
| 14:12.23 | florian_kc | hmm... ok, but this shouldn't be that hard... afaik they are quite similar |
| 14:12.46 | florian_kc | eh yes... and they are looong! |
| 14:14.10 | pigeon | now i wish i know more about hardware at these kinds of levels. |
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| 14:18.31 | pigeon | everything seems to be beyond my knowledge :( |
| 14:19.49 | florian_kc | Well this is a kind of frontier for most developer - i didn't do much with this stuff too before... |
| 14:20.25 | florian_kc | I should learn to type first :/ |
| 14:23.06 | pigeon | hmm well |
| 14:23.21 | pigeon | 00:23, maybe i'll sleep first :) |
| 14:23.27 | pigeon | continue tomorrow |
| 14:25.12 | florian_kc | ohe... |
| 14:25.20 | florian_kc | pigeon: good night |
| 15:42.48 | mallum | florian_kc: you have TOP on your ipaq ? |
| 16:04.01 | florian_kc | mallumyep |
| 16:04.05 | florian_kc | mallum: yep |
| 16:05.21 | mallum | florian_kc: its ok I did it |
| 16:05.36 | mallum | florian_kc: uploaded mini xlib to http://handhelds.org/~mallum/xpkgs/tiny-arm-xlib/ |
| 16:05.47 | mallum | florian_kc: gpe works fine with it ( I think ) |
| 16:08.01 | florian_kc | mallum: oh, what is the difference in size? |
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| 16:08.23 | RobiWan | Hi @all |
| 16:08.48 | florian_kc | RobiWan: hi |
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| 16:16.01 | reenoo | hi |
| 16:21.05 | florian_kc | reenoo: hello |
| 16:22.02 | reenoo | hey florian_kc |
| 16:22.38 | reenoo | haha... ssh is fun... |
| 16:23.59 | reenoo | just called some dude at university (a doze guy)... "would you mind walking over to the printers, and take the stuff I'm about to print to some office?" "eh? wtf? but you're at home..." "just do it. PLEASE!" |
| 16:24.10 | reenoo | =) |
| 16:25.15 | florian_kc | hehe :-) |
| 16:25.32 | florian_kc | UNIX rulez :-) |
| 16:25.50 | reenoo | indeed |
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| 16:50.51 | reenoo | now wtf was that?! |
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| 17:04.14 | mallum | florian_kc: about 500k |
| 17:04.28 | mallum | florian_kc: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.22325.png |
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| 17:04.44 | mallum | florian_kc: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.23119.png |
| 17:09.27 | florian_kc | mallum: cool... got a new car? ;-) |
| 17:09.40 | mallum | florian_kc: ;-) |
| 17:09.49 | mallum | florian_kc: thats my pimp daddy mobile |
| 17:10.04 | mallum | florian_kc: thats the image browser plug in |
| 17:10.59 | florian_kc | mallum: cool |
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| 17:18.27 | pb_ | re |
| 17:19.41 | florian_kc | pb_: wb |
| 17:28.24 | mallum | pb_: hi, I put an ARM tiny-xlib at http://handhelds.org/~mallum/xpkgs/tiny-arm-xlib/ if you want to play |
| 17:29.06 | mallum | pb_: gpe seems ok with it. You will get a warning about gdk not being about to set Xlib locale but I dont think that should hurt anything |
| 17:29.39 | florian_kc | bbl |
| 17:29.48 | pb_ | mallum: ok, great. |
| 17:29.58 | pb_ | no, nothing in gpe should require xlib locale support. |
| 17:30.13 | nelson | Anybody object to releasing 0.7.2 on Monday? |
| 17:30.41 | pb_ | Sounds good to me. We might want to have one last push of updated GPE packages into 0.7.2 before then. |
| 17:30.51 | pb_ | Do you happen to have a list of what's currently newer in unstable than 0.7.2? |
| 17:30.58 | nelson | gimme a sec. |
| 17:31.31 | mallum | pb_: XIM wont work, but other gtk input methods should be fine ( I dont think any one is using them on ipaqs anyway ) |
| 17:32.03 | pb_ | ah, mm. losing XIM might be an issue for us. I'd need to check. |
| 17:32.24 | nelson | pb_: libgpewidget, teleport, bluetooth-control. |
| 17:32.55 | pb_ | nelson: should probably update the first two. I don't know anything about bluetooth-control; I think that's one of AntiProxy's. |
| 17:33.35 | pb_ | I know that the new libgpewidget fixes a crashing bug in gpe-bluetooth, and the new teleport corrects some minor UI issues. |
| 17:35.26 | nelson | pb_: okay. I'll ask AntiProxy about bluetooth-control. Antiproxy: well? |
| 17:39.11 | mallum | pb_: okey |
| 17:39.58 | AntiProxy | back |
| 17:40.03 | AntiProxy | what's the deal? |
| 17:40.28 | AntiProxy | nelson: bluetooth-control is better than ever.. doesn't depend on bash anymore.. and it's a console tool in case you didn't know |
| 17:40.35 | AntiProxy | i just uploaded 0.4 today to unstable |
| 17:41.26 | AntiProxy | nelson: the old bluetooth-control is rather useless compared to 0.4 |
| 17:42.24 | AntiProxy | i'm currently working on vncserver v3.3.7-1 so Xvnc would run in the background, enabling opie users to use X11 apps via a vnc viewer |
| 17:42.34 | AntiProxy | but that's a bit far from done.. i don't think i'd make it on time |
| 17:43.03 | AntiProxy | ( i have a package fit only for unstable.. as the stripped binary is 1.5MBs .\ ) |
| 17:47.41 | AntiProxy | is the 0.7.2 feed up yet? |
| 17:49.23 | AntiProxy | nelson, pb_: ping |
| 17:49.33 | pb_ | AntiProxy: yo |
| 17:50.32 | pb_ | yes, seems that the feed is there, at http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.7.2/base/ et al. |
| 17:50.38 | nelson | AntiProxy: Okay. So I should leave it in unstable? |
| 17:50.46 | nelson | AntiProxy: yes, we've got images for 0.7.2. |
| 17:51.11 | AntiProxy | nelson: bluetooth-control v0.4 is what you should have in 0.7.2.. the older one is rather useless compared to it |
| 17:51.38 | nelson | Oh, okay, so I *should* copy it. |
| 17:52.27 | AntiProxy | i guess so |
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| 17:54.30 | AntiProxy | pb_: what does ' ipkg files alsa-modules ' on your system say? |
| 17:54.33 | AntiProxy | anything fishy? |
| 17:54.57 | pb_ | let me check |
| 17:55.07 | AntiProxy | i noticed the file-list on some of the package from unstable 9.3 is messed up |
| 17:55.21 | pb_ | oh dear, flat battery. |
| 17:55.38 | AntiProxy | my battery is dying |
| 17:56.17 | AntiProxy | it continues to charge after reaching the full level.. the charge LED now blinks in a different manner.. slightly faster than it used to be.. |
| 17:56.22 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:56.29 | pb_ | hm, that does seem a little on the fishy side |
| 17:56.42 | AntiProxy | pb_: that's in about 6 packages |
| 17:56.49 | AntiProxy | the most messed up one is busybox of course |
| 17:56.58 | AntiProxy | but then again there's no much of a problem there, as no one is likely to remove busybox |
| 17:57.05 | AntiProxy | but alsa-modules, aironet-modules, etc.. |
| 17:57.06 | pb_ | yah. looks like ipkg is to blame. |
| 17:57.18 | pb_ | I wonder when that started happening. |
| 17:57.33 | AntiProxy | you can make a list of affected packages easier than me now.. as i already fixed the .list files |
| 17:57.48 | AntiProxy | umm.. if it's an ipkg issue.. why these specific packages? |
| 17:58.02 | pb_ | I'm not sure. |
| 17:58.10 | AntiProxy | makes me wonder if there's something wrong in the ipkg-build process |
| 17:58.32 | pb_ | No; the .list doesn't exist in the .ipk. It's generated by ipkg at install time. |
| 17:58.55 | AntiProxy | yeah.. but for some reason, ipkg generates that in a wrong way for some packages |
| 17:59.11 | pb_ | and "task-bootgpe2-0.7.2-rc2-3900" is a string that only make-busyboot and ipkg would ever see. |
| 17:59.14 | AntiProxy | /task-bootstrap-0.7+unstable9.3-3600/... |
| 17:59.22 | AntiProxy | that's what i have here |
| 17:59.26 | AntiProxy | some packages don't have the leading / |
| 17:59.37 | pb_ | best talk to Dr Hicks, I think |
| 17:59.43 | AntiProxy | he's away.. |
| 17:59.46 | pb_ | ah |
| 17:59.49 | AntiProxy | i got through to him via e-mail though |
| 17:59.55 | AntiProxy | got my keyring issue sorted out |
| 18:00.02 | pb_ | oh right, phew. I'd forgotten about that. |
| 18:00.06 | pb_ | did you figure out what had happened? |
| 18:00.15 | AntiProxy | "I re-added key 0x3dd020fc. One of the recent key imports I did bashed the keyring. I exported and reimported all the keys and thought it was all fixed, but it looks like your key went missing." --jamey |
| 18:00.33 | AntiProxy | according to jg, his key might be missing too |
| 18:00.56 | pb_ | ah |
| 18:01.57 | pb_ | let me quickly look at the .list making code and see if I can spot anything obviously rotten in there |
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| 18:22.28 | florian | re |
| 18:23.27 | pb_ | florian: wb |
| 18:28.40 | pb_ | hm, how did konqueror get to be my default web browser? |
| 18:36.10 | florian | :-) |
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| 19:29.54 | pb_ | whoops, fouled up my network there. |
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| 20:16.14 | florian | It's hacking time :-) |
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| 20:30.08 | florian | Is there a chance to get the slider widget into libgpewidget? |
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| 20:38.42 | pb_ | florian: sure |
| 20:38.48 | pb_ | want to send me a patch for that? |
| 20:42.34 | florian | pb_: ok, i'll add to the pile of work to do :-) |
| 20:43.02 | pb_ | :-) |
| 20:43.47 | florian | Today i'll try to get this "theme default" feature and a fix for time stting from server into gpe-conf. |
| 20:44.12 | pb_ | Great. |
| 20:44.22 | pb_ | I just installed a new wireless AP here, so I can get back to working on h5400 wifi. |
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| 20:44.46 | pb_ | BTW, some dude on #handhelds.org was claiming yesterday that his hh26 kernel explodes in mq1100_set_backlight or some such, which sounds a bit suspicious. |
| 20:46.11 | mallum | pb_: is it bad to dl_open a threaded library into a non threaded app ( ie no -lpthread ) ? |
| 20:46.23 | pb_ | no, should be ok |
| 20:46.32 | florian | pb_: oh great - h5xxx hacking is a very very good idea... maybe you have a chance to find out why the buttons dont work properly...:-) |
| 20:46.36 | pb_ | the library will bring in libpthread via DT_NEEDED if it wants it. |
| 20:46.47 | pb_ | florian: yep, and that. |
| 20:48.11 | florian | pb_: huh?! explodes?! i have no idea how this should happen... it only accesses one mmapped variable. |
| 20:48.25 | mallum | pb_: okey thanks for the info. I havn't had any probs so far but I read somewhere it may be bad |
| 20:48.56 | pb_ | florian: all I can think is that somehow it's getting called before the mediaq is mapped. |
| 20:55.03 | florian | pb_: yes, indeed - this could be, but the mediaq is usually initialized in kernel itself and the backlight stuff from a module. except he has the ipaq related stuff in kernel... |
| 20:56.58 | pb_ | ah, that's a possibility. |
| 20:57.14 | pb_ | he did say he had compiled it himself, so he may be using some crazy .config |
| 21:03.11 | florian | hm yes... but maybe i should check this first - another bug to fix... |
| 21:05.12 | pb_ | florian: right |
| 21:09.11 | florian | mallum: Looks like mbdesktop dislikes emty background settings.... |
| 21:30.33 | florian | eh... empty |
| 21:41.26 | florian | Hmm... Russian translations, i should install this locale and see how gpe-aerial looks :-) |
| 21:42.06 | pb_ | aha, good plan. |
| 21:42.24 | pb_ | I need to build a new prism2_srec so I can have another go at flashing new firmware into my wifi cards. |
| 21:43.53 | florian | oh, another good plan - i should try to update my i-gate... this one is nearly unsusable for networking. |
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| 23:05.43 | mallum | florian: does it crash ? |
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| 23:14.14 | jsmanrique | hi |
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