| 00:24.02 | cmarqu_ | florian: I'm working on the po file for gpe-beam. "<b>Peer Information</b>" - this is considered bad, you should not show the pango markup to translators unless you have to. |
| 00:28.08 | florian | cmarqu_: Oh right, usually i avoid this... looks like i was somewhat lazy hacking gpe-beam :-/ |
| 00:28.58 | cmarqu_ | florian: small typo in main.c: s/"may i"/"may I"/ |
| 00:29.31 | cmarqu_ | Actually, "I" is not a good wording. Hmm. |
| 00:31.45 | florian | cmarqu_: Hmm... yes - gpe-beam is not a good piece of software at all - it needs some work and good ideas. |
| 00:33.03 | cmarqu_ | Ah, needs mimedir and stuff... too much work to compile right now. |
| 00:33.40 | cmarqu_ | msgid "<b>Peer Information</b>" |
| 00:33.40 | cmarqu_ | msgstr "<b>Informationen über den Partner</b>" |
| 00:34.06 | cmarqu_ | or better Informationen des Partners? |
| 00:36.33 | florian | hmm... |
| 00:38.36 | cmarqu_ | florian: Also, replace all "VCARD" or "vcard" with "vCard". Do you want me to do this? |
| 00:38.38 | florian | Yes, it is not perfectly easy to compile... |
| 00:40.04 | florian | cmarqu_: "Informationen über die Gegenstelle" would be perfect, but is long... |
| 00:40.41 | florian | cmarqu_: Oh yes, i must have been sleeping... please do :-) |
| 00:41.01 | cmarqu_ | Yeah... I'll leave Partner for now, sound so friendly :) |
| 00:42.02 | florian | Yes, sounds nice :-) |
| 00:43.50 | cmarqu_ | "File '%s' looks like a vCard, " |
| 00:43.56 | cmarqu_ | "do you want to import it?" |
| 00:44.01 | cmarqu_ | Sounds nicer IMO |
| 00:44.22 | cmarqu_ | (replacement for "may I import it") |
| 00:47.47 | florian | Yes sure... you see that gpe-beam is still much of work? ;-) |
| 00:48.19 | cmarqu_ | Yup :) I have to see it in order to find out howe to translate all the "control(s)" strings. |
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| 00:52.40 | florian | :-) |
| 00:53.19 | cmarqu_ | Okay, finished for now. 3 strings left over. |
| 00:54.11 | florian | cool, thanks! |
| 00:54.20 | cmarqu_ | florian: changes committed |
| 00:54.25 | cmarqu_ | np |
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| 01:37.48 | florian_ | night |
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| 02:04.46 | ryan_ | anyone here with a semi-working ts on a 5xxx, i need to know some devmem2 numbers |
| 02:04.51 | ryan_ | please message me asap |
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| 10:50.59 | jha_ | hi i have a 3130 and serious trouble |
| 10:51.28 | jha_ | when i boot my pda or start any application i get messages like |
| 10:51.34 | jha_ | Out of Memory: Killed process 616 (gpe-login). |
| 10:51.43 | jha_ | same for every other process |
| 10:51.59 | jha_ | any ideas how i could save memory? |
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| 12:54.04 | florian | hi all |
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| 13:41.50 | pb_ | hi florian |
| 13:59.18 | florian | hi pb_ |
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| 14:14.05 | pb_ | that's better |
| 14:14.43 | pb_ | no ipv6 though for some reason. oh well. |
| 14:22.14 | pb_ | florian: fyi, I just checked in elephantum's gpe-contacts patch. |
| 14:29.52 | florian | pb_: ah, great - i saw his screenshot... looks nice :-) |
| 14:52.15 | elephantum | florian: yeeha! =) |
| 15:14.29 | elephantum | ppl, is it possible to use x2x with gpe? |
| 15:14.47 | elephantum | or to be exact with Xipaq |
| 15:21.01 | florian | elephantum: I don't know why this shouldn't work... i think someone told the ueses x2x... |
| 15:32.12 | pigeon | elephantum: yes it worked, i've tried ages ago. |
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| 15:51.59 | elephantum | how to make make mouse pointer visible on ipaq? |
| 15:52.26 | pb_ | easiest way is to remove the call to detect-stylus from the startup scripts. |
| 15:53.07 | elephantum | pb_: hmm... I just want to play with x2x |
| 15:54.28 | elephantum | pb_: are there any alternatives to xkbd? |
| 15:54.51 | pb_ | no other keyboards, afaik. |
| 15:55.07 | pb_ | there are three different gesture-based input methods: xstroke, rosetta and merlin. |
| 15:56.32 | elephantum | pb_: xkbd is hard to adapt to work with utf-8 |
| 15:56.54 | pb_ | elephantum: in what way? |
| 15:58.46 | pb_ | hm, this 2.6 kernel is not working at all well for me. |
| 15:58.47 | pb_ | brb |
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| 16:13.53 | elephantum | pb_: it works with ascii strings. and for now I dont know how (with a little change) make xkbd to think of strings as of utf-8 strings. |
| 16:13.53 | pb_ | elephantum: xkbd really works with keysyms, not strings of any kind. |
| 16:14.44 | elephantum | pb_: ok, screenshot will clarify it all |
| 16:15.21 | elephantum | pb_: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.29993.png |
| 16:16.00 | elephantum | pb_: btw, I changed scap a little, now it can post through proxy. wanna patch? =) |
| 16:16.26 | pb_ | suggest you send the patch to nelson, or put it in bugzilla |
| 16:16.50 | pb_ | That screenshot doesn't really mean much to me. Can you explain it in words? |
| 16:17.17 | elephantum | pb_: you see that buttons are different width? |
| 16:17.33 | elephantum | pb_: that is annoying I think |
| 16:18.12 | pb_ | ah, I see |
| 16:18.22 | pb_ | I guess that should be easy to fix. |
| 16:19.35 | elephantum | pb_: xkbd consider all single character buttons as same width. but utf-8 string for russian character isn`t single charactered in ascii |
| 16:20.26 | pb_ | I'm not sure what you mean by "in ascii". You can't represent Russian at all in ASCII. |
| 16:20.43 | elephantum | pb_: of course I can set exact width in config for all buttons, but that is not a solution. |
| 16:21.36 | pb_ | Is the Russian layout in xkbd cvs? |
| 16:22.09 | elephantum | pb_: ok. I mean that string are in utf-8, but xkbd works with them using char* and uses ascii-oriented functions |
| 16:22.32 | elephantum | pb_: no, I made this one myself not so long ago |
| 16:22.54 | pb_ | ah, I see. |
| 16:23.05 | pb_ | it should be easy enough to straighten xkbd out on that. |
| 16:23.33 | pb_ | do all Russian characters occupy a single cell? |
| 16:24.06 | elephantum | pb_: no. some of them are 2-bytes and one is 3-bytes afaik |
| 16:24.24 | elephantum | pb_: if you mean that |
| 16:26.08 | elephantum | pb_: ok, it may be lame question, but I`ll ask. what corrections should be made in auto-scripts to add one more library? with glib I can correct it, but I dont know how to use it =) |
| 16:26.33 | pb_ | elephantum: not the encodings, the characters themselves. |
| 16:26.45 | elephantum | pb_: ah.. yes |
| 16:26.57 | pb_ | ok |
| 16:27.35 | pb_ | elephantum: I don't know much about auto*. |
| 16:27.45 | elephantum | pb_: me too... |
| 16:28.06 | elephantum | pb_: but there was somebody who wrote all autoconfigs |
| 16:33.36 | pb_ | elephantum: try the patch in http://handhelds.org/~pb/xkbd.diff and see if the behaviour improves. |
| 16:34.44 | pb_ | You'll need to select a UTF-8 locale for it to work right. |
| 16:36.52 | florian | What's this? |
| 16:37.09 | florian | "/cvs/CVSROOT/cvs_cia: /tmp/29045-handhelds.org: Permission denied" |
| 16:37.21 | pb_ | oh, that again. |
| 16:37.23 | elephantum | pb_: wow. I`ll try, but glib is prettier =) |
| 16:37.53 | pb_ | florian: jamey upgraded the cia script a few weeks ago, and unfortunately reintroduced this old bug. |
| 16:37.54 | florian | ah ok |
| 16:38.13 | pb_ | I'll fix it in a minute. |
| 16:38.35 | florian | pb_: does this influence cvs checkins? |
| 16:38.55 | pb_ | florian: no. the checkin will still work, but CIA will report some random wrong thing. |
| 16:46.09 | elephantum | pb_: damn... arm-linux-gcc cant compile xkbd, gives a lot of messages like this |
| 16:46.17 | elephantum | libvirtkeys.o(.text+0x12c8): undefined reference to `XTestFakeKeyEvent' |
| 16:47.37 | florian | Looks like missing XTest libs while linking.... |
| 16:50.36 | elephantum | florian: when I set compiler to gcc all is ok, but when I use arm-linux-gcc it sais so. It mean that libs are incompatible and I should get Xlibs for arm somewhere? |
| 16:54.54 | florian | elephantum: I think this is a bug in crosstoolchain config - i suppose it will work if you pass this library manually to linking command. |
| 16:58.40 | pb_ | yeah, what florian said. |
| 16:58.51 | pb_ | The new xlibs use pkg-config, which should help with this problem. |
| 17:00.27 | elephantum | florian: what do you mean manually? |
| 17:00.44 | elephantum | ld *.o /pa-pa-pa/Xlib.a |
| 17:05.11 | florian | elephantum: Add it to LDFLAGS, maybe in Makefile or similar to this: make CC='arm-linux-gcc -lXtext' |
| 17:11.46 | elephantum | florian: /skiff/local/arm-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -lXtext |
| 17:12.27 | pb_ | Xtest, not Xtext |
| 17:12.49 | pb_ | Xtst, even |
| 17:13.10 | elephantum | Xtst is already in ld flags |
| 17:14.03 | pb_ | ah |
| 17:14.16 | florian | What is the last message before the missing symbols? |
| 17:14.49 | elephantum | gcc -DUSE_XFT -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/X11R6/include -DUSE_XPM -DDEFAULTCONFIG=\"/usr/local/share/xkbd/en_GB.qwerty.xkbd\" -o xkbd xkbd.o libXkbd.o box.o button.o kb.o libvirtkeys.o -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXpm -lXtst -lXft -lX11 /usr/lib/libfreetype.so -lz -lXrender -lfontconfig |
| 17:15.38 | pb_ | -L/usr/X11R6/lib is wrong for a cross compiler. |
| 17:16.07 | elephantum | pb_: what should be there? |
| 17:16.16 | pb_ | the path to your cross libraries. |
| 17:16.33 | pb_ | -L/skiff/local/arm-linux/...something, I guess |
| 17:17.04 | elephantum | pb_: ok, thanks |
| 17:17.05 | pb_ | hm, my stupid laptop keeps powering off. |
| 17:17.06 | florian | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:17.16 | pb_ | sounds about right, eah |
| 17:17.19 | pb_ | yeah |
| 17:17.54 | florian | pb_: I had a similar problem... >90°C while compiling a kernel made it shut down... |
| 17:19.29 | pb_ | I think it's just the power management shutting it off due to inactivity. But it's on AC, and I was logged in to it over the network. |
| 17:20.10 | elephantum | nope.. /skiff/local/arm-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -lXft |
| 17:20.24 | pb_ | do you have libXft in your cross toolchain? |
| 17:20.34 | pb_ | if not, you'll have to download and install it. |
| 17:21.05 | elephantum | but there is libXft.so.1 in /skiff/local/arm-linux/lib/X11 |
| 17:21.16 | pb_ | is there libXft.so without the .1? |
| 17:21.38 | elephantum | nope |
| 17:21.47 | pb_ | ln -s libXft.so.1 libXft.so |
| 17:21.50 | pb_ | then try again |
| 17:21.55 | elephantum | ok |
| 17:23.34 | elephantum | wow. it worked |
| 17:23.44 | elephantum | i had to add -lXext |
| 17:23.47 | elephantum | also |
| 17:24.38 | pb_ | ah, right |
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| 17:28.37 | elephantum | pb_: I have to disappoint you, but it doesnt work... |
| 17:29.09 | elephantum | the patch I mean. but now I know how to compile it, and I`ll try to do smth myself |
| 17:29.18 | pb_ | ok |
| 17:31.36 | pb_ | did you remember to select an appropriate locale on the ipaq? |
| 17:35.15 | elephantum | pb_: I did export LC_ALL=ru_RU.UTF-8 |
| 17:36.47 | pb_ | and you installed that locale on the ipaq? should be ok. |
| 17:37.33 | elephantum | yes, I did export ... ; xkbd |
| 17:37.41 | pb_ | right |
| 17:38.05 | pb_ | oh well, I guess there must be some other code in xkbd that needs changing. |
| 17:39.19 | elephantum | I`ll handle it, I think |
| 17:39.25 | pb_ | okay |
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| 18:43.21 | RobiWan | Hi @all |
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| 18:51.30 | florian | hi RobiWan |
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| 21:54.51 | flypiper | pb_: I noticed 9.2 in your unstable folder.. anyone played with that ??? |
| 21:56.59 | florian | pb_: http://www.fastflow.it/dbtcp/ |
| 21:57.23 | florian | pb_: Do you know this? It could maybe be useful for sync stuff... |
| 21:59.13 | florian | pb_: forget it... looks like it has no native sqlite support :-/ |
| 22:09.26 | florian | night all |
| 22:09.49 | flypiper | florian: g'night |
| 22:10.10 | pb_ | flypiper: yep, a few people used it. no serious complaints that I'm aware of. |
| 22:11.12 | flypiper | pb_: OK.. I'll burn it on my 3700.. thanks |
| 23:01.15 | pb_ | flypiper: cool |
