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| 01:14.37 | folken | so, how exactly "unstable" is the unstable feed for gpe? |
| 02:13.07 | ryan_ | folken: its stable |
| 02:13.12 | ryan_ | but some things dont work |
| 02:13.30 | ryan_ | ie, not recommended for astronaughts just yet |
| 02:13.44 | ryan_ | but they work fine |
| 02:13.48 | folken | in other words, it's most likely exactly what i'm looking for. :) |
| 02:14.29 | folken | so, to update a 0.7.1 system to unstable, i edit /etc/ipkg.conf and change the src base line? |
| 02:16.54 | ryan_ | yeah i beleive |
| 02:16.58 | ryan_ | then ipkg update |
| 02:17.02 | ryan_ | ipkg upgrade |
| 02:17.27 | folken | cool. |
| 02:19.44 | flypiper | folken: I haven't done that for a while.. it used to break things.. lemme know if it works |
| 02:20.07 | flypiper | folken: what are you upgrading from?? |
| 02:20.14 | folken | 0.7.1 |
| 02:20.52 | flypiper | 7.0 to 7.1 ?? |
| 02:20.54 | folken | for the h3900. gpe (since i'm in this channel, that *should* be obvious) |
| 02:21.10 | folken | no, I want to update 7.1 to trace unstable. |
| 03:07.43 | ryan_ | folken: just reflash ur ipaq |
| 03:16.13 | folken | with what boot image? |
| 03:18.02 | flypiper | folken: try one from here... http://handhelds.org/~pb/unstable/ |
| 03:20.28 | ryan_ | what he said |
| 03:20.42 | ryan_ | 9.2 |
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| 07:04.39 | florian_kc | hi all |
| 07:05.33 | pigeon | hi florian |
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| 07:06.37 | pigeon | hi florian again |
| 07:08.20 | florian_kc | hehe |
| 07:08.34 | florian_kc | _This_ is the real one ;-) |
| 07:08.55 | pigeon | doh! |
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| 07:46.17 | RobiWan | Hi @all |
| 07:47.26 | florian_kc | hi RobiWan |
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| 13:58.01 | florian_kc | hello jg |
| 14:00.33 | jg | florian_kc: morning. |
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| 14:36.11 | florian_kc | hey pb_ |
| 14:36.17 | pb_ | hi florian_kc! |
| 14:37.20 | florian_kc | pb_: I noticed a strange problem with gpe-bluetooth yesterday: |
| 14:38.06 | pb_ | florian_kc: sounds ominous |
| 14:39.42 | florian_kc | pb_: Two devices, one my iPAQ was paired with and one new. Two pin dialogs openend and aborting them i was not able to open a pan connection to the known device. |
| 14:40.00 | florian_kc | pb_: Switching the new one off, everything worked fine. |
| 14:40.15 | pb_ | Oh, strange indeed. |
| 14:40.23 | pb_ | That would have to be an hcid bug, I suppose. |
| 14:40.30 | florian_kc | pb_: Looks like something is mixed up... |
| 14:41.03 | pb_ | Yeah, definitely. |
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| 17:01.54 | reenoo | hi |
| 17:05.38 | florian_kc | hi reenoo |
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| 17:06.50 | reenoo | hey florian_kc |
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| 18:02.41 | florian | re |
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| 18:18.51 | pb_ | re |
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| 18:37.06 | florian | re |
| 18:37.25 | pb_ | florian: wb |
| 18:38.43 | florian | hi pb_ |
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| 19:28.29 | florian | pb_: i have a small change for gpe-icons... i think it is no problem to check it in, or not? |
| 19:28.52 | pb_ | florian: go ahead |
| 19:30.26 | florian | ok |
| 19:30.47 | pb_ | want to build and upload a new package? |
| 19:33.26 | florian | i think i'll maybe need to add some more - it's for gpe-package which still needs meny hours of coding until it will work. |
| 19:33.52 | pb_ | okay |
| 19:44.05 | reenoo | pb_: I had this strange booting problem on saturday... maybe you have an idea what went wrong... running unstable-9.2 something must have leaked memory; the kernel killed all apps including init on shutdown; after resetting the ipaq the kernel only got to the point when it displays the tux logo |
| 19:46.31 | reenoo | reflashing didn't help (thought the filesystem was damaged or something); I have to add that I had forgotten to press the joypad. after reflashing using the stable image and several resets I finally pressed the joypad and after that the kernel booted |
| 19:46.59 | pb_ | reenoo: sounds very bizarre. |
| 19:47.06 | pb_ | I don't know what can have been going on there. |
| 19:48.26 | reenoo | ok. so the bootloader doesn't do anything essentially different in "raw mode"? |
| 19:49.58 | pb_ | nope |
| 19:51.46 | reenoo | ok. that's what I used to think, too. I remain pretty confused :/ |
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| 19:56.20 | elephantum | pb_: hi, are you a maintainer of gpe-contacts? |
| 19:57.21 | pb_ | yes, though I think florian is really the contactsmeister. |
| 19:58.47 | elephantum | pb_: I`d like to know is it possible to add tabs with letters other than english into it? |
| 19:59.07 | elephantum | pb_: or where can I get the source code, to try to do it myself |
| 19:59.11 | pb_ | yes, I think so, though I forget offhand how. |
| 19:59.18 | pb_ | source code is in cvs, or gpe ftp site. |
| 19:59.50 | elephantum | oh, thanks. I consulted ipkgfind and it pointed to you =) |
| 20:04.15 | mallum | ;-) |
| 20:05.31 | ade|desk | mallum: chelsea owners here ? |
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| 20:10.36 | reenoo | [OT] had my first real lectures at university today - and I used to think school was boring... I *need* a laptop it seems :) |
| 20:12.04 | ade|desk | reenoo: yeah a little libretto is best, not too big in leature hall |
| 20:12.44 | elephantum | pb_: sorry for disturbing you again, but where in cvs lays gpe-contacts, I cant see it |
| 20:13.10 | reenoo | ade|desk: the problem is that none of those nifty crusoe based subs are available here |
| 20:13.34 | elephantum | mallum: good evening |
| 20:13.56 | reenoo | fujitsu -> us only; toshiba -> japan only |
| 20:14.36 | reenoo | and apparently you can't legally import them (no CE certificate, etc.) |
| 20:15.22 | ade|desk | reenoo: no not the new ones, use the old ones ... the speedy ones you can type code on, then compile back home ;) |
| 20:15.58 | elephantum | pb_: my last question cancels =) I found ) |
| 20:16.02 | mallum | elephantum: hello sir |
| 20:16.14 | elephantum | mallum: wow, how official =) |
| 20:17.16 | elephantum | mallum: just imagine, that no one russian did any localization for familiar or about. that`s horrible |
| 20:17.49 | florian | reenoo: Reichelt sells a transmeta based notebook at the moment... it's quite cheap, but i don't know it's size. |
| 20:18.12 | reenoo | ade|desk: well... wlan all over the campus. I could tunnel into my home lan easily |
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| 20:18.39 | ade|desk | reenoo: cool |
| 20:19.02 | reenoo | florian: /me has a look at their website... |
| 20:19.34 | ade|desk | reenoo: i like under powered laptops, people dont nick them then |
| 20:20.00 | florian | elephantum: There is a definition file for tabs, replacing it will enable internationalized tabs easily :-) |
| 20:21.04 | reenoo | ade|desk: they require PPTP though which makes patching pppd neccessary AFAIK... |
| 20:21.09 | elephantum | florian: thanks a lot. |
| 20:22.11 | reenoo | ade|desk: the older it looks... yeah, I get the point :) |
| 20:25.19 | reenoo | florian: seems like standard 14" size |
| 20:30.27 | florian | reenoo: yep, looks so - but is dirt cheap! |
| 20:30.31 | elephantum | florian: is this definition file config or I should alter the sources? |
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| 20:31.41 | florian | elephantum: It should be config, but at the moment noone cares about it... |
| 20:32.22 | florian | I think best way to handle it would be to ship a translated one with every language package and a default one with gpe-contacts itself. |
| 20:32.57 | mallum | elephantum: I dont think theres been many russian users |
| 20:33.05 | elephantum | florian: oh.. I see. |
| 20:33.17 | mallum | elephantum: its a bit difficult for people that dont speak russian to do any russian localisation .. |
| 20:33.20 | elephantum | mallum: it seems to me that I`m ALONE =) |
| 20:33.51 | elephantum | mallum: I`m ready to do localization =) and my name will be in history ) |
| 20:35.08 | elephantum | florian: for now, where the information about tabs is stored? |
| 20:36.21 | elephantum | wow... I found it in main.c in hardcoded. great patches wait this prog |
| 20:36.23 | elephantum | =) |
| 20:36.41 | reenoo | florian: heh. yeah. cheap indeed ;) |
| 20:38.36 | florian | elephantum: There is a hardcoded default in gpe-contacts at the moment - each locale package could install one to /etc/gpe, but maybe it would be a good idea to make gpe-contacts look for a file a suffix that is the same like the current locale. |
| 20:39.00 | florian | elephantum: But in CVS shoule be an example file... |
| 20:39.24 | ade|desk | ~change 770 euro to gbp |
| 20:39.36 | ade|desk | hmm |
| 20:41.42 | elephantum | florian: does it work correct with non-ascii symbols for tabs? I think no, cause there a char* used to store possible characters |
| 20:45.29 | florian | elephantum: hm yes, this could be a problem - looks like i need to fix this. |
| 20:46.47 | elephantum | florian: yes, it would be great |
| 20:49.14 | elephantum | florian: mallum: was interesting to speak with you, but it is bed time here =) good bye |
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| 21:25.54 | jsmanrique | hi! |
| 21:25.59 | jsmanrique | good night |
| 21:28.04 | florian | good night all! |
| 21:28.51 | jsmanrique | florian: why isn't es_ES.qwerty.xkbd in xkbd options? |
| 21:31.15 | florian | jsmanrique: it should be there if installed and in the correct directory... if not please file a bug or tell me tomorrow. |
| 21:57.43 | pigeon | morning |
| 21:58.09 | pb_ | hi pigeon |
| 22:04.08 | pigeon | pb_: hey! |
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| 22:07.33 | jsmanrique | hi! |
| 22:07.37 | jsmanrique | again :-) |
| 22:07.43 | pb_ | hi jsmanrique |
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| 22:14.04 | jsmanrique | pb_: could you explain me what gpe-timetracker do? |
| 22:14.55 | pb_ | jsmanrique: it's for recording time spent on particular tasks. |
| 22:16.58 | jsmanrique | pb_: aha |
| 22:17.09 | jsmanrique | pb_: but, where does it shows that time? |
| 22:17.26 | pb_ | It just records it in the database. You need a separate program to extract it at the moment. |
| 22:17.53 | jsmanrique | aha |
| 22:18.04 | jsmanrique | I hope that ssh bug gets solved soon |
| 22:18.12 | jsmanrique | first than h5400 support :-) |
| 22:18.15 | pb_ | which ssh bug is that? |
| 22:18.30 | jsmanrique | pb_: I can't install ssh and run it |
| 22:18.44 | jsmanrique | pb_: it is in bugzilla too |
| 22:18.49 | pb_ | what's the bug #? |
| 22:18.59 | jsmanrique | I don't remember now |
| 22:20.13 | jsmanrique | pb_: 1012 |
| 22:20.29 | jsmanrique | For package ssh_3.7.1p1-1_armv4l.ipk from the |
| 22:20.29 | jsmanrique | http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.7.1/base/armv4l feed |
| 22:20.29 | jsmanrique | there is a depency upon sshd (=1:3.6p1-1), which is not in the feed |
| 22:20.29 | jsmanrique | sshd (1:3.7.1p1-1) is. |
| 22:20.51 | pb_ | oh, right, this is in 0.7.1. |
| 22:21.05 | pb_ | I think that should work in 0.7.2. |
| 22:22.07 | jsmanrique | the bug is still in unstable.. |
| 22:23.09 | pb_ | ah, that's unfortunate. |
| 22:23.15 | pb_ | I guess you should hassle Kero in #handhelds.org about it. |
| 22:33.53 | jsmanrique | any news about minimoz? |
| 22:50.25 | jsmanrique | night |
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