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| 06:59.40 | pigeon | morning florian_kc |
| 07:02.56 | florian_kc | morning pigeon |
| 07:03.31 | pigeon | Ok, sf seems to have screwed all the mailing archive. |
| 07:04.02 | florian_kc | :-/ |
| 07:05.57 | pigeon | I can search the list, it's giving result, but when I actually click on the message, it gives me message not found. |
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| 07:41.19 | florian_kc | AntiProxy: What are you working on? |
| 07:41.42 | florian_kc | AntiProxy: Another strange screenshot... :-) |
| 07:41.53 | pigeon | lol |
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| 08:39.46 | florian_kc | hi mallum |
| 08:39.53 | mallum | hey florian_kc |
| 08:44.37 | pigeon | hello mallum |
| 08:47.06 | mallum | hi pigeon, how goes |
| 08:47.55 | pigeon | business as usual, haven't done much with my ipaqs though. |
| 08:56.22 | Ax | Hi all |
| 08:56.46 | mallum | hey Ax |
| 08:57.02 | pigeon | Hello Ax |
| 08:59.18 | florian_kc | hi Ax |
| 09:02.08 | Ax | is it me, or what... When I try to login into GPE, it goes back to graphical login screen... |
| 09:03.05 | Ax | updated 10 minutes ago from http://handhelds.org/feeds/unstable |
| 09:03.39 | florian_kc | Ax: This looks like a bug in a package in unstable, pb- was working on some scripts lately... |
| 09:03.50 | florian_kc | I'll try the same.... |
| 09:13.18 | florian_kc | Hmm... looks like this needs to be delayed, handhelds.org seems to be down. |
| 09:20.56 | florian_kc | Looks like a routing problem in London |
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| 10:11.41 | Ax | handhelds.org is back up |
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| 10:12.07 | florian_kc | Ah, cool |
| 10:12.17 | reenoo | hi |
| 10:16.26 | Ax | hi |
| 11:00.28 | florian_kc | Wow! many new packages! |
| 11:16.40 | Ax | where? I got only sqlite a libsqlite;) |
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| 11:55.43 | florian_kc | re |
| 12:11.37 | reenoo | oh well |
| 12:11.46 | reenoo | http://www2.europarl.eu.int/omk/sipade2?SAME_LEVEL=1&LEVEL=4&NAV=X&PUBREF=-//EP//TEXT+REPORT+A5-2003-0238+0+DOC+XML+V0//EN |
| 12:18.23 | florian_kc | reenoo: where is the interesting part? |
| 12:33.33 | reenoo | florian_kc: it's all insane if you ask me... software industry is about developing products and selling those... not about selling patents |
| 12:34.59 | florian_kc | reenoo: it is... that was the theory... |
| 12:35.08 | florian_kc | reenoo: but the fight is not over yet |
| 12:37.54 | reenoo | florian_kc: I hope so. yeah |
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| 16:55.08 | mallum | florian_kc: I fixed mbinputmgr to use wider icons ( eg tigert 's ) |
| 16:56.03 | florian_kc | mallum: ah, cool... |
| 16:56.41 | mallum | florian_kc: need to update the xkbd and mbmerlin to include tigerts icons |
| 16:57.39 | florian_kc | mallum: sounds like a good plan, maybe we make it to get these nice updates into 0.7.2 |
| 16:58.08 | mallum | florian_kc: yeah, I have to figure out why the ordering is getting all messed up on the panel |
| 16:58.27 | mallum | florian_kc: do they start out ok and then gradually get more and more messed up ? |
| 17:00.15 | florian_kc | mallum: looks so... i don't have a running ipaq to test at the moment :-/ |
| 17:00.32 | mallum | florian_kc: also Im not sure if its worth getting rid of the '^' at the beginning of the panel |
| 17:04.46 | florian_kc | mallum: another thing to try, but i think fixing this nasty stuff is mor important at the moment... |
| 17:06.08 | mallum | florian_kc: nasty, being the ordering ? |
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| 17:10.08 | florian_kc | mallum: yep... ah, btw... another possible problem: |
| 17:11.27 | florian_kc | mallum: When updaating gpe-conf many .desktop files are changed... after this it looks like mbdesktop consumes much more memory than before. repeating this some times mbdesktop dies. |
| 17:12.45 | mallum | florian_kc: yeah that'll be stupid dnotify bombarding it with messages that the .desktop files need reloading |
| 17:13.00 | mallum | florian_kc: so mbdesktop goes mental continually reloading all the .desktop files |
| 17:13.39 | florian_kc | mallum: ok, i see.... |
| 17:13.52 | mallum | florian_kc: Im aware of the possible problem just havn't figured out a nice way to fix it as yet |
| 17:14.07 | mallum | brb - dinner |
| 17:23.48 | pb_ | florian_kc: ah, you uploaded a new sqlite. cool! |
| 17:25.18 | florian_kc | pb_: yep... i hope it works fine :-) |
| 17:25.27 | florian_kc | brb |
| 17:25.42 | pb_ | let me update and find out! |
| 17:34.26 | pb_ | ibot, botmail for florian: new sqlite seems to do the trick. thanks! |
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| 17:54.26 | florian | re |
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| 18:10.59 | tigert | ghrhrr |
| 18:11.06 | florian | hi tigert |
| 18:11.08 | tigert | lovely mondays |
| 18:11.11 | tigert | hi |
| 18:11.26 | florian | yeah, the same for me :-/ |
| 18:11.43 | mallum | tell me why do I hate mondays |
| 18:12.14 | florian | brb, food! |
| 18:12.29 | mallum | tigert: whats new in your world today ? |
| 18:14.08 | tigert | work |
| 18:14.12 | tigert | how's gpe doing? |
| 18:15.15 | mallum | tigert: dunno, been away for 4 weeks ish |
| 18:15.19 | tigert | :) |
| 18:22.30 | pb_ | tigert: gpe is doing well. hope to have another release this week. |
| 18:26.59 | florian | re |
| 18:28.14 | pb_ | florian: wb (again) :-) |
| 18:28.24 | florian | where is mallum? |
| 18:28.53 | pb_ | <-- mallum has quit (Remote closed the connection) |
| 18:29.25 | florian | tsts |
| 18:29.38 | ade|desk | hmmm Need to get 78.2MB of archives. is not my idea of fun on isdn |
| 18:29.59 | ade|desk | lo folks, btw |
| 18:30.26 | pb_ | hi ade |
| 18:30.45 | ade|desk | hey pb_, was in cambs wednesday, lovely sunshine . great day out with gf :) |
| 18:30.57 | pb_ | ade|desk: aha, cool :-) |
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| 18:33.33 | florian | mallum: wb |
| 18:33.47 | mallum | florian: hi, switchde machines |
| 18:34.01 | mallum | florian: did you get the source for sylpheed ? |
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| 18:34.30 | florian | oops |
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| 18:44.47 | RobiWan | Hi @all |
| 18:45.53 | florian | hi RobiWan |
| 18:49.25 | cmarqu_ | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.6645.png - the language selection menu seems to have a problem |
| 18:50.23 | pb_ | Hm, I suspect that means jsmanrique has filled in his locale files with the wrong encoding. |
| 18:50.46 | pb_ | (presumably iso-8859-1 rather than utf-8) |
| 18:52.30 | cmarqu_ | Where is that "Espaņa" string coming from actually? |
| 18:52.51 | pb_ | I think he must have put it in /etc/gpe/locales by hand. |
| 18:52.59 | cmarqu_ | Ah. |
| 18:53.07 | pb_ | The distributed version just says "Spanish", which is a bit lame but that's what the locale database provides. |
| 18:54.12 | cmarqu_ | (Of course, it's not "Espaņa".) |
| 18:54.29 | pb_ | :-) |
| 18:55.05 | cmarqu_ | That locales file comes from gcc normally? |
| 18:56.19 | pb_ | It's extracted from the data files that ship with glibc. |
| 18:57.55 | cmarqu_ | Would it make sense to translate it somehow? |
| 18:58.23 | pb_ | Yeah. I was a little surprised that the locale database doesn't include a string in the native language, but there you have it. |
| 19:04.38 | reenoo | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.32619.png <-- hmm... no scroller arrows... I can scroll clicking on the spots where they normally are though |
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| 19:05.27 | mallum | reenoo: what version of matchbox ? |
| 19:06.07 | reenoo | 0.5rc3 |
| 19:06.36 | mallum | reenoo: upgrade thats ancient |
| 19:06.56 | reenoo | hehehe |
| 19:06.58 | reenoo | ok |
| 19:07.05 | mallum | reenoo: nice bg btw |
| 19:07.43 | mallum | florian: oh btw, I think it may have been rotating that was messing up panel app order |
| 19:08.26 | reenoo | mallum: yeah. especially because screen rotation doesn't matter. it still looks good :) |
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| 20:07.28 | florian | pb_: OK, it boots, initial setup looks fine too... |
| 20:10.12 | florian | pb_: minor bug, i have xstroke running after first login |
| 20:11.29 | florian | mallum: Blondie theme with blue window decoration doesn't look good, better change the color to the same like mbmenu. |
| 20:12.13 | mallum | florian: you need to make a GPE matchbox theme |
| 20:12.40 | florian | mallum: hmm... a good idea, this would be a base :-) |
| 20:13.20 | mallum | florian: cool |
| 20:17.38 | florian | pb_: gpe-conf starts very fast... what happened? |
| 20:18.23 | mallum | florian: also see http://handhelds.org/~mallum/matchbox/manual/themes/ |
| 20:20.56 | florian | mallum: thanks... but not this evening :-) |
| 20:21.21 | florian | hell! gpe-conf segfaults! |
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| 20:23.44 | mallum | florian: okey, I guess all you wanna do is change the background color of the blondie theme anyway |
| 20:25.33 | florian | mallum: maybe this and some other minor changes, but i think it is mostly ok. |
| 20:25.37 | florian | hi Pa |
| 20:25.40 | florian | hi paul |
| 20:26.04 | paul | hi florian, wie gehst? |
| 20:27.10 | florian | paul: everything fine... but too many proects at the same time... and too much business work :-/ |
| 20:27.28 | paul | always all the way :( |
| 20:28.52 | mallum | florian: did you ever play with the '-use_desktop_mode decorated' matchbox switch ? |
| 20:30.06 | florian | mallum: yes, a little bit... but not that much... i remember a problem... but what was it? |
| 20:31.45 | mallum | florian: dunno I've hardly used it myself |
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| 20:52.07 | reenoo | mallum: http://lug-bremen.de/~reno/OfferingFreedom3.png if you want the background |
| 20:54.30 | reenoo | (stolen from http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/offeringfreedom/) |
| 20:55.22 | florian | Oh hell! sylpheed is _lots_ of code! |
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| 20:59.17 | pb_ | florian: hell! |
| 20:59.40 | pb_ | hm, I wonder why xstroke is still running. I'll look into that. |
| 20:59.52 | pb_ | is it running at the login screen too, or just started with the session? |
| 21:00.45 | florian | pb_: no, not at lthe login screen... |
| 21:01.15 | pb_ | mm, bizarre. |
| 21:01.21 | pb_ | can you tell where it's being launched from? |
| 21:01.54 | florian | not yet... |
| 21:02.16 | florian | how do i get the font a widget uses in gtk2? |
| 21:02.35 | pb_ | mm, with difficulty. GdkFont isn't used anymore. |
| 21:02.38 | pb_ | what do you want to do with it? |
| 21:04.17 | florian | pb_: emulating some stuff sylpheed uses... |
| 21:04.46 | pb_ | oh, whoops, xstroke is still in gpe.mbdock. |
| 21:04.49 | pb_ | I wonder how that happened. |
| 21:05.05 | pb_ | I'll make a new session-scripts immediately. |
| 21:05.24 | nilsf | pb_: Ha, gotcha ;) |
| 21:05.38 | florian | hehe |
| 21:05.42 | nilsf | pb_: The last image I installed had no ifdown? |
| 21:05.59 | nilsf | pb_: Must have been unstable6 I think... |
| 21:06.03 | pb_ | nilsf: Ah, funny you should mention that. |
| 21:06.18 | pb_ | ipkg: Cannot link from ./sbin/ifdown to './sbin/ifup': No such file or directoryD |
| 21:06.26 | pb_ | I was just wondering if this error was important. |
| 21:06.32 | nilsf | :)))))))))) |
| 21:06.44 | florian | Now i first try to find out why gpe-conf segfaults |
| 21:06.44 | nilsf | ROTFL... |
| 21:07.11 | florian | nilsf: hee... this in not funny ;-) |
| 21:07.14 | nilsf | florian: Your iPaq boots again? |
| 21:07.16 | florian | s/in/is |
| 21:07.47 | florian | nilsf: yes... but only after kicking it using the serial port :-( |
| 21:07.47 | nilsf | My grin was for pb... |
| 21:07.59 | nilsf | florian: But that at least worked... |
| 21:08.05 | nilsf | Thought so... |
| 21:08.42 | nilsf | pb_: I saw that gpe-minilite (which I think is your's) uses system calls to "bl" to control the back-/frontlight. |
| 21:08.58 | nilsf | pb_: Why did you use system()? Any special intention for it? |
| 21:09.15 | nilsf | pb_: Would you mind me changin this into proper ioctl()s? |
| 21:09.28 | pb_ | nilsf: I think it was to avoid the need to run minilite as root. |
| 21:09.59 | pb_ | Maybe that's not an issue any more. |
| 21:10.02 | nilsf | pb_: I don't think that you need to... |
| 21:10.15 | nilsf | pb_: Umm... checkiong this... mompls... |
| 21:10.54 | pb_ | nilsf: You're probably right. I think recent (since 6 months or so) versions of the session scripts probably set the appropriate permissions. |
| 21:11.19 | nelson | One of the not-so-nice features of hiding the cursor all the time is that it makes ''x2x -to ipaq:0.0'' mostly useless |
| 21:11.43 | pb_ | Yeah, we should find a way to make that more dynamically configurable. |
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| 21:11.55 | pb_ | It also sucks if you have a real mouse connected to the ipaq. |
| 21:12.24 | pb_ | florian: which part of gpe-conf is segfaulting for you? |
| 21:12.54 | nilsf | pb_: You are right... the h3600_ts device is 600 owned by root.root. |
| 21:12.56 | florian | pb_: network on startup and theme opening the color selection dialog |
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| 21:13.23 | nilsf | pb_: The raw device is owned by the logged in user though! |
| 21:13.27 | pb_ | florian: oh yes, it does that for me too. |
| 21:13.48 | pb_ | nilsf: Okay. I can easily make h3600_ts owned by the logged-in user as well, if that's what's needed. |
| 21:14.07 | nilsf | pb_: That would be perfectly suficient! Great! |
| 21:14.25 | nilsf | pb_: I'll prepare a patch for you to check? Or should I directly check this in? |
| 21:14.42 | nilsf | pb_: I have already written this ioctl() stuff several times now... |
| 21:14.44 | pb_ | nilsf: By all means go ahead and check it in. |
| 21:14.57 | nilsf | pb_: Fine :) |
| 21:15.20 | nilsf | pb_: I have a next idea, concerning all this screen saver, backlight, dimming and stuff... |
| 21:15.59 | nilsf | pb_: Wouldn't DBus allow for a good method to have master screen daemon listening on dbus for screen events? |
| 21:16.21 | pb_ | nilsf: Yep, that might be a good idea. |
| 21:16.23 | nilsf | pb_: And then have several clients for that "bus", like screensaver, backlight control, etc... |
| 21:17.03 | nilsf | pb_: And the daemon could then decide which supercedes which, i.e. e.g. the screensaver should superceed a backlight setting or similar... |
| 21:17.21 | nilsf | Priorities this are... |
| 21:17.25 | nilsf | :) |
| 21:18.11 | nilsf | Makes a nice project for Oldenburg... :)) |
| 21:18.23 | pb_ | Cool :-) |
| 21:19.12 | nilsf | I came accross this because I am working on one part of my "smart applications" project... a nice auto-backlight app that automatically does the right thing using the light sensor. |
| 21:19.36 | nilsf | It could one day replace minilite though :) |
| 21:21.27 | pb_ | Right, yes. |
| 21:23.49 | pb_ | florian: ah, when I run gpe-conf theme on my desktop, I get: |
| 21:23.54 | pb_ | (gpe-conf:9162): Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtklabel.c: line 1090 (gtk_label_set_markup): assertion `GTK_IS_LABEL (label)' failed |
| 21:24.15 | pb_ | florian: this will indeed translate into a segfault on the ipaq. |
| 21:24.21 | florian | pb_: i got only a sigsegfault... |
| 21:24.55 | florian | pb_: inserting and removing a wireless lan card 3 times kills it... |
| 21:25.01 | florian | brb |
| 21:29.07 | pb_ | nilsf: new gpe-login uploaded, should fix the ts permissions thing. |
| 21:30.09 | nilsf | pb_: Perfect, thanks! Though I don't know exactly when I'll come around doing the minilight patch... hopefully tomorrow... shouldn't be too much. |
| 21:30.46 | pb_ | Okay, cool. |
| 21:31.16 | nilsf | Maybe we can talk a little about dbus tomorrow too ;) |
| 21:31.40 | mallum | nilsf: patch it to work on Z's too ? |
| 21:31.51 | mallum | nilsf: ;-) would be pretty easy ... |
| 21:35.29 | pb_ | florian: what's csel->previewbutton meant to be? |
| 21:36.01 | nilsf | mallum: Um... tell me how ;) |
| 21:36.40 | mallum | nilsf: theres a /proc interface iirc |
| 21:37.23 | nilsf | mallum: That's too easy ;) No ioctl()s? Not worth a hacker... |
| 21:39.08 | pb_ | florian: if I change line 375 of theme.c to read: |
| 21:39.12 | pb_ | button = gtk_button_new_with_label("hello"); |
| 21:39.28 | pb_ | then the assertion goes away. But I can't actually see this button anywhere in the dialog, so it seems a little redundant. |
| 21:41.52 | mallum | nilsf: on c7x0 there appears to be a /proc/driver/fl/corgi-bl |
| 21:42.26 | nilsf | mallum: What's its in-/output? |
| 21:42.47 | mallum | nilsf: just trying to figure that out |
| 21:43.13 | nilsf | mallum: If you have something, simply email it to me and I'll try to see how we can combine this, OK? |
| 21:43.15 | pigeon | Hmm would anyone here know the basic theory of seeking in a mpeg stream? |
| 21:43.26 | moray | hi guys |
| 21:43.34 | nilsf | Hi moray! |
| 21:43.45 | nilsf | pigeon: Into which detail? |
| 21:44.23 | pigeon | nilsf: hmm at the demuxer level, how it should be seeking, say by a given time? |
| 21:44.23 | pb_ | pigeon: there's no good way to do it, really. If you know there are no time discontinuities, you can guess an approximate file location based on the bitrate. then you just have to scan for SCR values until you find the timecode you want. |
| 21:44.55 | mallum | nilsf: well, writing 0 to it turns it off |
| 21:45.07 | nilsf | mallum: Excellent ;) |
| 21:45.28 | pigeon | pb_: Ok... guess what, turns out I'm writing my own demuxer now for an mpeg. |
| 21:45.29 | nilsf | mallum: Does it come back with something != 0 ? |
| 21:45.54 | pb_ | pigeon: ah, heh. I had to do that a few years ago. |
| 21:45.55 | mallum | nilsf: yeah, its normally set at 0x011F |
| 21:46.06 | pigeon | pb_: Help me then! :P |
| 21:46.16 | mallum | nilsf: echo'ing different values to it changes it, but it dont seem uniform |
| 21:46.35 | nilsf | mallum: Maybe you yre writing the wrong number format. |
| 21:46.49 | nilsf | mallum: Tried hex? |
| 21:46.51 | pb_ | pigeon: I will have a scratch around at the office and see if I can find a copy of my old source. |
| 21:47.47 | mallum | nilsf: yeah, still no sense. I will check the kernel source and see if I can figure it out |
| 21:47.56 | mallum | nilsf: will have to do that tommorow now though |
| 21:48.02 | nilsf | mallum: Yes... seem best idea. |
| 21:48.07 | pigeon | pb_: cool... well, I've got a working demuxer now, what's left now is the output, ie display frames and audio, i haven't hooked up anything with pts/dts stuff yet. And then next will be seeking. |
| 21:48.22 | pigeon | pb_: And has to be done in say 2 or 3 days time :\ |
| 21:48.23 | pb_ | Ah, right. |
| 21:48.37 | pb_ | I remember seeking was the part that I had the most trouble with. |
| 21:48.40 | nilsf | pigeon: What is this project, if I may ask? |
| 21:48.59 | nilsf | pigeon: Oh... why not look at the mplayer source? |
| 21:49.36 | pigeon | nilsf: It's a project of my company, I need to get a demo for a show for next week in singapore. |
| 21:49.53 | nilsf | pigeon: Oh dear... best luck! |
| 21:50.00 | pigeon | nilsf: I did, mplayer source helped a bit, I think I'll look at xine a bit too today. |
| 21:50.15 | pigeon | And oh yeah, I'm going to singapore next week. |
| 21:50.33 | pb_ | Aha. Is that good? |
| 21:50.40 | pb_ | I've never been to Singapore. |
| 21:51.20 | pigeon | nilsf: Unfortunately the project is proprietary, at least for now :\ |
| 21:51.34 | pigeon | pb_: If I could get some really basic stuff to work, then yes ;) |
| 21:51.42 | pb_ | :-) |
| 21:51.47 | nilsf | pigeon: Already thought so, though I hoped for a GPE video player ;) |
| 21:52.09 | pb_ | pigeon: did you consider using GStreamer? I think it has mpeg audio and video elements. |
| 21:52.13 | pb_ | and a demux |
| 21:52.13 | pigeon | nilsf: I wouldn't mind doing one if I have *time* ;) |
| 21:52.30 | nilsf | pigeon: Na, time is an illusion ;) |
| 21:52.37 | pigeon | pb_: Yeah heard of gstreamer for a while, haven't actually touched the source yet. |
| 21:52.43 | pigeon | nilsf: That, I agree :) |
| 21:52.56 | nilsf | pb_: GStreamer is a memory hog... we just found while tracing some things here... |
| 21:53.11 | pb_ | nilsf: Ah, that's unfortunate. |
| 21:53.19 | pb_ | I wonder why/ |
| 21:53.24 | pb_ | s:/:.: |
| 21:53.38 | mallum | nilsf: mplayer on the c7x0 with this ati-vidix driver does fullscreen video no problem |
| 21:53.45 | nilsf | pb_: gpe-nmf sometimes crashes on me while trying to open a folder. Think it's running oom. |
| 21:53.53 | pb_ | btw, I'm running new bootstrap images now. hopefully this will clear up the ifdown thing. |
| 21:54.00 | pb_ | nilsf: Ah. |
| 21:54.00 | nilsf | mallum: ati-vidix ? |
| 21:54.28 | nilsf | pb_: gstreamer seems to open an load a whole bunch of libs at init time. |
| 21:54.57 | mallum | nilsf: on the newer c7x0's there is a ( binary only ) lib that speaks to the ati chips accessing it accel stuff |
| 21:55.13 | mallum | nilsf: people have been reverse engineering it |
| 21:55.20 | nilsf | mallum: Darn! BTW: I never got an answer from ATI. None at all. |
| 21:55.22 | pigeon | Ok, thanks pb_ and nilsf, I need to head to the office first, then continue with my demuxer :) |
| 21:55.33 | pb_ | pigeon: heh, good luck. |
| 21:55.37 | nilsf | pigeon: Good luck! |
| 21:56.20 | mallum | nilsf: once this library is reverse engineered it wont matter about ati's response :-)) |
| 21:57.06 | nilsf | mallum: We have to hurry though... not long and we'll have software patents and cursed reverse engeneering in Europe too... |
| 21:57.21 | mallum | nilsf: some guy in russia doing it |
| 21:58.07 | nilsf | mallum: Oh well, last resort for real hackers, go to Ukraine or Sibiria for the *real* thing ;) |
| 21:58.15 | mallum | nilsf: hehe yeah |
| 21:58.43 | nilsf | mallum: But don't forget the big sattelite dish or else nobody will ever know you've been there... |
| 21:58.51 | nilsf | No, not really my idea. |
| 21:59.08 | nilsf | I'd rather go to Bruxelles and kick some *ss. |
| 21:59.36 | mallum | :-) |
| 22:01.57 | mallum | night all |
| 22:04.22 | florian | re |
| 22:06.07 | pb_ | florian: re. did you see my previous comments about this mysterious button? |
| 22:06.22 | florian | not yet, wait.... |
| 22:08.24 | florian | pb_: i'll look at this now... but first i need to connect my ipaq to net |
| 22:08.39 | pb_ | florian: righto |
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| 22:12.37 | pb_ | florian: heh, there seems to be a bit of a surfeit of StartupNotify lines in gpe-conf's .desktop files. |
| 22:13.01 | pb_ | gpe-conf.keyctl has both "StartupNotify=True" and "StartupNotify=False". |
| 22:14.15 | shak | ask your friends to set +w now! [AMSG] |
| 22:19.01 | florian | hmmm... wlan0 gets a ipv6 address but no connection :-/ |
| 22:19.13 | pb_ | hm |
| 22:24.55 | florian | pb_: I can reproduce this... removing my ma701 some times makes the ipaq freeze |
| 22:26.57 | florian | pb_: gpe-bluetooth asks me for a pin connectiong to my pc... why this? |
| 22:27.48 | pb_ | florian: I'm not sure. I guess your PC is set up to require a PIN for incoming connections. |
| 22:28.46 | florian | pb_: I used bluetooth several times lately... i didn't change anything at pc side... |
| 22:28.53 | pb_ | florian: mm, strange. |
| 22:29.42 | florian | bcsp_recv: Out-of-order packet arrived, got 1 expected 0 |
| 22:31.11 | pb_ | florian: oh, remember that your ipaq will have come unpaired with the pc when you reflashed. |
| 22:31.52 | florian | pb_: auth and crypt enable are commented out in hcid.conf |
| 22:34.03 | pb_ | florian: I'm not entirely sure what those options do. |
| 22:35.32 | florian | pb_: i think i found it... |
| 22:35.45 | florian | pb_: my /bin/bliepin is broken... |
| 22:36.03 | pb_ | florian: aha |
| 22:36.29 | florian | eh bluepin |
| 22:38.45 | florian | great :-/ |
| 22:46.23 | florian | What's this (gdb) ptrace: bogus breakpoint trap |
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| 22:47.06 | pb_ | florian: kernel bug, I think. |
| 22:49.52 | pb_ | hm, time for me to go to sleep. |
| 22:50.18 | pb_ | I need to be at the office at an ungodly hour tomorrow morning to interview some dude. :-/ |
| 22:50.19 | florian | I tried to debug gpe-conf network... |
| 22:50.34 | pb_ | ah, any luck? |
| 22:50.34 | florian | eh, nasty :-( |
| 22:51.12 | pb_ | btw, gpe-conf keyctl works as root, but if I run it as a user I get: |
| 22:51.18 | pb_ | (gpe-conf:1433): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid cast from `GdkPixbuf' to `GtkButton' |
| 22:51.22 | pb_ | twice, and then sigsegv. |
| 22:51.46 | florian | many strange messages... it dies setting a text to an entry. |
| 22:52.12 | florian | bt shows many messages like this: |
| 22:52.13 | florian | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:52.13 | florian | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:52.33 | pb_ | hm, strange. |
| 22:52.38 | pb_ | I suspect that may just be gdb getting confused. |
| 22:54.10 | florian | but why...? the values would be interesting at this point... but gdb is not able to give me some. |
| 22:54.21 | pb_ | let me try on my desktop |
| 22:54.40 | pb_ | gdb is quite poor on arm. |
| 22:55.31 | pb_ | darn, wrong PREFIX. |
| 22:55.33 | pb_ | need to recompile |
| 22:56.18 | pb_ | #0 0x4043d671 in g_log () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 |
| 22:56.19 | pb_ | #1 0x4010d968 in gtk_entry_set_text () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 |
| 22:56.19 | pb_ | #2 0x0805e8b3 in create_editable_entry_simple (attach_to=0x8154518, |
| 22:56.19 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.19 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.20 | pb_ | #3 0x080600ba in create_global_widgets () at network.c:697 |
| 22:56.22 | pb_ | #4 0x080614c6 in Network_Build_Objects () at network.c:1030 |
| 22:56.24 | pb_ | #5 0x080539a9 in item_select (useronly=0, user_data=0x6) at main.c:171 |
| 22:56.30 | pb_ | any help? |
| 22:56.46 | pb_ | #0 0x4043d671 in g_log () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 |
| 22:56.47 | pb_ | #1 0x4010d968 in gtk_entry_set_text () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 |
| 22:56.47 | pb_ | #2 0x0805e8b3 in create_editable_entry_simple (attach_to=0x8154518, |
| 22:56.47 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.47 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.48 | pb_ | #3 0x08060123 in create_global_widgets () at network.c:704 |
| 22:56.50 | pb_ | #4 0x080614c6 in Network_Build_Objects () at network.c:1030 |
| 22:56.52 | pb_ | #5 0x080539a9 in item_select (useronly=0, user_data=0x6) at main.c:171 |
| 22:56.54 | pb_ | #6 0x08054152 in main_one (argc=2, argv=0xbffffa84, applet=6) at main.c:321 |
| 22:56.56 | pb_ | #7 0x08054475 in main (argc=2, argv=0xbffffa84) at main.c:395 |
| 22:56.58 | pb_ | is the other one. |
| 22:57.31 | pigeon | alrighty |
| 23:01.00 | florian | hmm... why this happens now?! |
| 23:01.30 | pb_ | florian: I guess it's always happened, and it's just that nobody has noticed before. |
| 23:02.50 | florian | pb_: I see why it happens in network.c... this text is NULL, but this should raise an error message from gtk instead of crashing the app. |
| 23:03.06 | pb_ | florian: I think the problem in network.c is: |
| 23:03.46 | pb_ | oh, yeah, what you said. |
| 23:04.46 | pb_ | should be easy to fix, just put "if (wdata)" around that call or something. |
| 23:04.55 | florian | yep |
| 23:06.50 | pb_ | right, unstable8.1 images are built. |
| 23:06.58 | florian | hehe |
| 23:07.01 | florian | cool |
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| 23:22.38 | jsmanrique | hi |
| 23:22.43 | jsmanrique | anyone here? |
| 23:22.50 | jsmanrique | the workshop is almost ready |
| 23:23.00 | florian | more or less :-/ |
| 23:23.29 | jsmanrique | I have wifi running on my laptop and on the ipaq |
| 23:23.38 | jsmanrique | ssh -X let me show ipaq running |
| 23:23.58 | jsmanrique | even when fonts on latop screen are not the same than ipaq |
| 23:24.11 | jsmanrique | they are bigger |
| 23:24.47 | jsmanrique | I have done a openoffice.org presentation to show to start the workshop |
| 23:25.21 | jsmanrique | and we have done some documets (very small) about hotplug with usb, and nfs use |
| 23:25.45 | florian | ohe, and i try to port gtk1.2 applications :-/ |
| 23:27.23 | jsmanrique | any scaps from rossetta? |
| 23:28.21 | jsmanrique | any ipkg to download? |
| 23:33.48 | florian | i created two screenshots last friday... |
| 23:36.45 | jsmanrique | are you fuchs? |
| 23:37.16 | florian | jsmanrique: no, this is only my local user name |
| 23:37.29 | jsmanrique | aha |
| 23:44.37 | florian | night... |
