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| 07:54.16 | florian | hi all |
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| 10:29.21 | ryan5400_ | hi florian |
| 10:30.02 | florian | hi ryan5400_ |
| 10:40.09 | ryan5400_ | did you get my messages about the touchscreen on the 5xxx with unstable5? |
| 10:51.13 | florian | Yes, i did... another hint that something is really wrong with the asic :-/ |
| 10:51.37 | florian | I'll hope we'll get some more information soon. |
| 10:51.41 | ryan5400_ | mmmm |
| 10:51.50 | ryan5400_ | what changed between unstable 4 and 5? |
| 10:57.37 | florian | For the 54xx not that much i think... |
| 11:00.25 | ryan5400_ | mmm, because it just started working! |
| 11:00.34 | florian | eh? |
| 11:00.34 | ryan5400_ | i get interupts in /proc/interupts |
| 11:00.39 | florian | cool |
| 11:00.41 | ryan5400_ | well cepy |
| 11:00.44 | ryan5400_ | *cept |
| 11:01.02 | ryan5400_ | it always appears that you tap it in the top left hand corner |
| 11:01.08 | ryan5400_ | like tap it in the very middle |
| 11:01.21 | ryan5400_ | and you will see the xstroke line (dot) appear at the very top left |
| 11:01.48 | ryan5400_ | i couldnt calibrate either |
| 11:04.11 | florian | hmm yes, this ia another bug.... but i think i fixed this. |
| 11:04.18 | florian | which kernel is in this image? |
| 11:04.31 | ryan5400_ | oooh good question |
| 11:04.36 | ryan5400_ | hh23 |
| 11:04.38 | ryan5400_ | from memory |
| 11:04.45 | florian | hmm... starange |
| 11:04.45 | ryan5400_ | the thing is though |
| 11:04.56 | florian | brb, lunch |
| 11:04.58 | ryan5400_ | i had to devmem 0x1400500c |
| 11:05.06 | ryan5400_ | ok ill leave a message (watching tv) |
| 11:05.25 | ryan5400_ | when i devmemmed 0x1400500c, it was originally set to 0x0. |
| 11:05.42 | ryan5400_ | after 1 tap, you would have to rmmod h5400_asic and modprobe it again |
| 11:05.53 | ryan5400_ | so, i set it to 100mhz, and it screwed up and froze |
| 11:07.00 | ryan5400_ | then i tested it at 50mhz (0x4) and it worked fine - i tested for roughly 50 taps |
| 11:07.33 | ryan5400_ | when i was in a program and tapped the screen, it would bring that menu (saying the open apps, and Desktop) |
| 11:08.09 | ryan5400_ | but couldn't ever get it to register anywhere else on the screen except the top left |
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| 13:23.27 | ryan5400_ | wb florian_ |
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| 16:46.25 | florian | jg: hello! |
| 16:48.17 | florian | ibot: botmail for pb_ The new busybox package is missing a link from insmod.24 to busybox. |
| 16:53.56 | jg | florian: hi. |
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| 17:10.28 | florian | bbl |
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| 17:21.37 | pb_ | florian: still? hell. |
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| 18:18.33 | florian | re |
| 18:19.53 | pb_ | florian: re |
| 18:21.01 | florian | pb_: hi, received my message? |
| 18:30.45 | pb_ | <pb_> florian: still? hell. |
| 18:31.39 | florian | pb_: oh sorry... i must have missed this :-/ |
| 18:31.52 | pb_ | florian: I think you fell off the net immediately after I wrote that. |
| 18:31.55 | florian | i'm not sure when i updated the last time.. wait |
| 18:32.14 | pb_ | florian: I uploaded a new busybox either yesterday or the day before that was supposed to fix this problem. |
| 18:32.29 | pb_ | if it's still there... well, I guess that would mean I suck. |
| 18:32.30 | florian | pb_: ah yes, i forgot to disconnect before suspending my laptop. |
| 18:32.38 | pb_ | ah, heh |
| 18:33.50 | florian | busybox_0.99.5-3_arm.ipk |
| 18:34.11 | pb_ | ah, the latest is -4. |
| 18:34.22 | pb_ | I think you need to upgrade :-) |
| 18:34.46 | florian | ok, then i'll do this later whaen testing ipkg lib and frontend. |
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| 18:35.01 | pb_ | ok, cool |
| 18:41.55 | florian | I'm not sure if that what i'm doing is really intelligent... i pass arguments to libipkg like to ipkg itself. I'm not sure if it is better to have a function call for each subcommand... |
| 18:42.08 | pb_ | Yeah, that might be better. |
| 18:42.17 | pb_ | I think ipkg already has separate functions internally for each command. |
| 18:44.17 | florian | yes, it is easier to use but some more work to implement... |
| 18:45.33 | florian | I think i'll test how good this callbacks work first and create a useful interface later. |
| 18:46.04 | pb_ | good plan |
| 18:47.31 | florian | i should clean up the room around my computers as well... |
| 18:47.39 | pb_ | hehe |
| 18:47.50 | pb_ | mmm, I should do that too |
| 18:48.00 | pb_ | (mine, not yours) |
| 18:50.47 | florian | :-) |
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| 19:31.56 | pb_ | I see the German translation team is hard at work. :-) |
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| 19:32.45 | pb_ | dc_: evening! |
| 19:32.47 | dc_ | hey, so first day of college was tosay |
| 19:32.52 | pb_ | how'd that go? |
| 19:32.57 | dc_ | not bad. |
| 19:33.09 | pb_ | jolly good. |
| 19:33.15 | florian | ah, cool... at the moment i think the czech translation team is faster ;-) |
| 19:33.20 | pb_ | what subjects did you end up with? |
| 19:33.22 | spung | pb_: much better that the portuguese team :/ |
| 19:33.24 | dc_ | although I'm defiantly going to drop maths |
| 19:33.29 | florian | hi dc_ |
| 19:33.31 | dc_ | and not goto the computing lessons. |
| 19:33.34 | dc_ | hey florian , smu |
| 19:33.38 | dc_ | hey florian , spung |
| 19:33.38 | pb_ | florian: heh, yeah. the germans will have some way to go to catch up with the prodigious output from the czechs :-) |
| 19:33.39 | dc_ | : |
| 19:33.40 | dc_ | :] |
| 19:33.44 | pb_ | dc_: heh |
| 19:33.56 | spung | hey dc_ |
| 19:33.57 | florian | yep |
| 19:34.37 | dc_ | the computing teacher is the stereotype like most of them |
| 19:34.43 | dc_ | which is kind of boring |
| 19:34.47 | pb_ | ah. |
| 19:34.51 | pb_ | same with the maths teacher? |
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| 19:35.33 | dc_ | no. |
| 19:35.43 | spung | dc_: pardon my english, is college where you go when you usually are 18? |
| 19:35.44 | dc_ | it's a young lady which is nice. |
| 19:36.04 | dc_ | only, I can't really handle the maths a level standard. |
| 19:36.13 | dc_ | just didn't do enough at GCSE |
| 19:36.16 | pb_ | ah. :-/ |
| 19:36.22 | dc_ | spung: not in england. |
| 19:36.31 | dc_ | spung: college is 16->18 |
| 19:36.32 | pb_ | well, seems a bit early to be admitting defeat on maths yet. |
| 19:36.36 | spung | dc_: ah i see |
| 19:36.38 | dc_ | uni is 18-> |
| 19:36.52 | spung | dc_: study study :) |
| 19:36.56 | dc_ | I've also got an uncanny amount of free lessons |
| 19:37.07 | pb_ | ah, always nice |
| 19:37.12 | dc_ | considering I'm only doing 2 subjects. |
| 19:37.20 | dc_ | fridays is free :} |
| 19:37.27 | dc_ | and monday starts at 12:30 |
| 19:37.35 | dc_ | not far from perfect. |
| 19:37.40 | pb_ | heh, nice. |
| 19:37.42 | spung | dc_: 2 subjects?? |
| 19:37.43 | pb_ | what's your other subject? |
| 19:37.56 | dc_ | also, there's a guy in the local town that's part of the free wifi consume network. |
| 19:38.12 | dc_ | so I have to find a cafe nearby and steal his connection at lunchtime. |
| 19:38.16 | pb_ | heh |
| 19:38.22 | dc_ | pb_, spung: bio and chem |
| 19:38.29 | pb_ | ah, cool |
| 19:38.33 | spung | dc_: why only two subjects? |
| 19:38.50 | dc_ | oh right, and computing |
| 19:39.03 | dc_ | 3 :] |
| 19:39.11 | pb_ | now I can see why you are giving up maths |
| 19:39.21 | dc_ | hehe. |
| 19:39.42 | spung | dc_: why are you only doing 3 subjects? i had 8 or 9 when i was in college |
| 19:39.50 | dc_ | mm. |
| 19:39.55 | pb_ | spung: things are different here |
| 19:39.56 | dc_ | the system must be different. |
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| 19:40.05 | pb_ | spung: you normally only do three or four A-levels. |
| 19:40.11 | dc_ | the max is about 6 I think |
| 19:40.24 | dc_ | most people do around 3, the smarter ones 4. |
| 19:40.24 | dc_ | heh |
| 19:40.36 | spung | but, for instance, will you have bio or chem next year? |
| 19:40.37 | dc_ | I'm demoting myself :] |
| 19:40.40 | cmarqu_ | Uhm, the Czech translation team can apparently check their translation on the ipaq which the German team cannot. :) That's a huge motivation factor. |
| 19:40.45 | dc_ | yep, two years study |
| 19:40.50 | cmarqu_ | Hi guys |
| 19:40.55 | dc_ | oh hey cmarqu_ ! |
| 19:40.55 | pb_ | cmarqu_: oh, yeah, we need to get you a better ipaq. |
| 19:41.01 | cmarqu_ | :) |
| 19:41.32 | dc_ | cmarqu_: pb_ the dealer will sort you out with some good stuff ;] |
| 19:41.59 | dc_ | doh. |
| 19:42.04 | pb_ | yeah, c750 is a nice device |
| 19:42.23 | dc_ | does X still suck on the Z |
| 19:42.26 | cmarqu_ | Ah, gpe-conf now has sane line lengths in the ChangeLog |
| 19:42.29 | dc_ | someone mentioned a fix a while back. |
| 19:42.40 | pb_ | not sure. what kind of suckage are you seeing? |
| 19:43.13 | dc_ | the refresh sucks in landscape |
| 19:43.14 | spung | dc_: i had, bio, chem, physics, portuguese, maths, descriptive geometry, laboratory chemics/physics techniques, english, philosophy, sports, computing, and some more i don't recall atm |
| 19:43.19 | pb_ | dc_: ah. |
| 19:43.28 | dc_ | pb_: not fixed yet? |
| 19:43.43 | pb_ | spung: either you are extraordinarily clever, or your exams are in less depth than A levels :-} |
| 19:44.06 | pb_ | dc_: mm, not sure. I haven't tried X on mine. |
| 19:44.12 | pb_ | should do that, really. |
| 19:44.14 | spung | pb_: yeah, i guess overall they're easier :) |
| 19:44.20 | dc_ | I am committed to starting to do gpe programming once I find a nice place in the library tomorrow. |
| 19:44.27 | pb_ | dc_: excellent! |
| 19:44.29 | dc_ | pb_: doh! |
| 19:44.34 | dc_ | pb_: still opie? |
| 19:44.39 | pb_ | dc_: still sharp rom. |
| 19:44.49 | dc_ | heh. |
| 19:44.52 | pb_ | I haven't had time to do anything with the Z yet. nor the simpad, nor the axim. |
| 19:44.53 | pb_ | I suck. |
| 19:44.56 | dc_ | have you used it yet ;] |
| 19:44.59 | pb_ | nope |
| 19:45.03 | dc_ | doh. |
| 19:45.03 | spung | pb_: although national average in the univ admission maths exam was 3 out of 20, similar bad average with physics (4 or 5) |
| 19:45.11 | dc_ | too much cpu designing pb_ |
| 19:45.12 | spung | pb_: which is pretty bad |
| 19:45.22 | pb_ | dc_: well, I've used it a bit, but probably only for a total of 3 hours or something |
| 19:46.01 | pb_ | dc_: yeah, so it seems. |
| 19:46.21 | pb_ | arm owns me, regrettably. |
| 19:46.40 | dc_ | hehe |
| 19:47.11 | pb_ | though I did do some gpe work at the weekend. |
| 19:47.22 | spung | pb_: i had 16 and 19 respectively but i certainly doesn't make me clever, the others are just dumb for not studying.. |
| 19:47.31 | pb_ | spung: hehe |
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| 19:49.18 | pb_ | spung: there are plans afoot in this country to change the exam system so that you do more subjects at 18, kind of like the baccalaureate. probably be a long time coming though. |
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| 19:50.33 | florian_ | :-/ |
| 19:50.43 | pb_ | your ppp problems continue? |
| 19:51.01 | florian_ | One of the connectors to my dsl modem is broken :-( |
| 19:51.23 | pb_ | :-( |
| 19:51.57 | florian_ | but i just got the first error message from libipkg :-) |
| 19:52.09 | pb_ | hehe |
| 19:52.58 | pb_ | dc_: if you poke me again later in the week I'll try to look at the landscape performance thing. |
| 19:53.06 | pb_ | hopefully then I will have a working image build to try. |
| 19:53.18 | dc_ | pb_: thanks :) |
| 19:54.02 | spung | dc_: mallum said there wasn't much one could do about that, i hope he's wrong? |
| 19:54.33 | dc_ | spung: so do I ;-} |
| 19:54.35 | florian | cmarqu_: yep :-) |
| 19:55.00 | dc_ | some random person mentioned they had h4x0r3d the ati chip |
| 19:55.10 | dc_ | and started off some drivers. |
| 19:55.11 | pb_ | ah, that'd be nice |
| 19:55.18 | dc_ | unless...I was dreaming. |
| 19:55.25 | dc_ | always possible, hehe. |
| 19:55.36 | pb_ | I was pleasantly surprised to discover the other day that the documentation for the mediaq chip in h5000 is now open. |
| 19:55.54 | pb_ | bizarrely, it appears that being bought by nvidia has made mediaq more amenable to releasing the datasheets :-) |
| 19:55.56 | dc_ | oh wow. |
| 19:56.16 | cmarqu_ | florian: Hehe. I was going to change some strings in gpe-conf, but the ChangeLog always scared me :) |
| 19:56.24 | pb_ | so, we will certainly be able to have hardware rotation on those machines. |
| 19:57.30 | florian | ah, hardware... does linux run on powerbooks...? i mean usable... |
| 19:57.47 | dc_ | heh. OS X is fun. |
| 19:57.55 | pb_ | florian: I think so, though apparently no support for the internal wifi |
| 19:58.09 | dc_ | only the extreme card. |
| 19:58.15 | dc_ | if it's 11b I think it works. |
| 19:58.26 | pb_ | ah, ok |
| 19:58.29 | dc_ | or rather the 11b card in the iBook works. But that hardly proves anything |
| 19:58.56 | pb_ | I guess I know lots of linux people with powerbooks actually, and some of them must have wifi. |
| 19:59.12 | dc_ | hey this is cool, the guy with wifi only lives 3 blocks away from the college. |
| 19:59.13 | dc_ | yay |
| 19:59.13 | florian | cmarqu_: Now you don't have a obstruction to wait longer ;-) |
| 19:59.33 | dc_ | florian: you must get yourself a mac laptop. |
| 19:59.46 | florian | pb_: sounds good :-) |
| 19:59.51 | dc_ | it's compulsory as being part of the gpe team now ;-p |
| 20:00.22 | pb_ | oh, I should have a new PSU for mine tomorrow. |
| 20:00.28 | pb_ | just have to hope that's what was broken :-) |
| 20:01.27 | florian | dc_: yeah, i had the chance to look at some macs some days ago... all these mac notebooks look nice :-) |
| 20:01.44 | dc_ | :-D |
| 20:01.54 | dc_ | pb_: eek, so do I. |
| 20:02.15 | florian | Even a small ibook would be cool... if it only had one single expansion slot... |
| 20:02.42 | spung | dc_: out of curiosity, how many courses you have in university per semester? |
| 20:03.51 | cmarqu_ | florian: Right. :) |
| 20:05.26 | dc_ | spung: ask moray, he knows LOTS about uni. |
| 20:05.27 | dc_ | hehe. |
| 20:06.00 | florian | :-) |
| 20:06.31 | florian | huh, what is changed in hh23-1? |
| 20:06.33 | dc_ | I was really tempted to get a 12" powerbook, just because they're so damn cute, |
| 20:07.07 | dc_ | oh dear, |
| 20:07.24 | dc_ | http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/top_news_item.cfm?NewsID=6856 |
| 20:07.35 | dc_ | I'm already out of fasion. |
| 20:07.48 | dc_ | fashion even |
| 20:08.35 | dc_ | oh wait, only iMac, heh. |
| 20:11.50 | pb_ | florian: I've never really found it to be a problem not having expansion slots on the ibook. |
| 20:12.02 | pb_ | florian: wifi is internal, and virtually everything else I want to use is USB or firewire. |
| 20:15.44 | florian | pb_: hm yes, right... with usb and firewire this is sufficiant for most stuff |
| 20:23.11 | spung | pb_: my 15" is cuter |
| 20:23.24 | spung | er |
| 20:23.25 | spung | dc |
| 20:23.27 | spung | i meant |
| 20:24.17 | spung | anyway 17" is for black people and 12" for asian people (it makes sense if you substitute inches by centimeters) |
| 20:33.43 | pb_ | florian: the main feature I would have liked in the ibook is internal bluetooth, but a usb dongle is a fairly good compromise. |
| 20:33.54 | pb_ | I think the new powerbooks have bluetooth built in. |
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| 21:35.46 | florian | pb_: yep, i saw some info about this at apple store... afaik the more sxpensive models have. |
| 21:36.24 | pb_ | yeah |
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| 21:51.43 | dc__ | hrmf |
| 21:51.55 | dc__ | smoothwall doesn't have glibc 2.2 installed. |
| 21:51.58 | dc__ | is that stangre? |
| 21:52.04 | dc__ | *strange |
| 21:52.08 | pb_ | what does it have? some older version? |
| 21:53.08 | dc__ | I guess...and my satellite software wants 2.2 |
| 21:53.09 | dc__ | heh |
| 21:53.22 | dc__ | would it be easy to upgrade it. or am I being slightly stupid? |
| 21:54.56 | pb_ | should be fairly straightforward, yeah. |
| 21:55.03 | pb_ | generally speaking glibc is backwards compatible. |
| 21:56.53 | dc__ | ah ha |
| 21:57.04 | dc__ | so i guess I should just take apart a deb. |
| 21:57.22 | dc__ | argf. I knew it. already lost a rubber foot off-a my powerbook |
| 21:58.29 | pb_ | hell |
| 21:58.48 | dc__ | ah-ha found it, just need some sort of glue now. |
| 21:58.49 | dc__ | heh |
| 21:58.57 | dc__ | so much for lasting designs |
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| 21:59.44 | pb_ | hah |
| 21:59.52 | pb_ | well, this buildroot is more tricky than I thought. |
| 22:02.30 | dc__ | m. |
| 22:03.49 | dc__ | heh, I have a 3 hour and 30 minute break tomorrow. |
| 22:04.00 | dc__ | defiantly need some gpe code to keep me entertained. |
| 22:04.19 | pb_ | good thinking |
| 22:04.46 | cmarqu_ | florian: Did many strings *change* between gpe-conf-pre6 and pre9? I.e., might it be worth that you submit a pre9.pot to the translation project, so that I don't have to redo much if I go on with pre6? |
| 22:10.08 | florian | cmarqu_: No, not hat many changes... but you are right, i should update the pot. |
| 22:17.26 | florian | night... |
| 22:17.31 | pb_ | florian: night |
| 22:31.12 | pb_ | oh dear, gpe-edit source tarball is busted. |
| 22:31.36 | pb_ | but libgpewidget compiles in openzaurus buildroot now, which is nice. |
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| 23:07.41 | dc__ | night night |
| 23:07.45 | dc__ | heh, staying up too late I am |
| 23:07.48 | pb_ | night |
| 23:07.56 | pb_ | heh |
| 23:08.01 | dc__ | coffee will be my saviour :} |
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| 23:13.03 | pigeon | ahha! |
| 23:32.10 | pb_ | pigeon: mm? |
| 23:32.56 | pigeon | pb_: Morning! |
| 23:33.07 | pb_ | morning pigeon |