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| 01:57.56 | pigeon | dc_ kun |
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| 06:18.09 | florian | morning... |
| 06:18.59 | pigeon | good morning florian |
| 06:19.31 | florian | pigeon: helloo |
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| 08:01.40 | florian | hi nilsf |
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| 08:19.44 | florian | bbl |
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| 08:43.46 | pokryfka | hi |
| 08:44.05 | pokryfka | i am a zaurus user and i love the gtk based gnome environment |
| 08:44.36 | pokryfka | i 'd like to switch to gpe on my zaurusbut have a few questions if You dont mind |
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| 09:19.39 | florian | re |
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| 10:16.05 | dc_ | morniing |
| 10:16.55 | florian | dc_: good morning :-) |
| 10:17.10 | dc_ | working day today |
| 10:17.13 | dc_ | heh |
| 10:18.07 | dc_ | hrm. |
| 10:19.35 | dc_ | I have to get some fake id for the uk linux expo again ;-} |
| 10:24.19 | BBrox | dc_: fake id ? |
| 10:24.32 | dc_ | they try to only let in over 18s, heh/. |
| 10:25.01 | BBrox | Ah yes, forgot that some kids are hanging out here :-) |
| 10:25.20 | dc_ | last time the lady said at the door 'I didn't see you, okay?'. I just hope they're in the nice mood again this year. |
| 10:26.20 | florian | Strange? Is there a particular reason for this rule? |
| 10:26.32 | dc_ | god know. |
| 10:26.32 | dc_ | s |
| 10:26.55 | dc_ | it's free. so I guess it could be just to stop random people coming in. |
| 10:27.21 | dc_ | there must be a fair amount of under ade linux geeks these days. |
| 10:27.35 | dc_ | so it's kind of anoying |
| 10:29.06 | florian | At Linuxtag this was manages more intelligent: It was free if you registered online before the event. |
| 10:29.19 | dc_ | ah right |
| 10:29.37 | dc_ | this is england, we don't do intelligent. |
| 10:29.54 | florian | Without registering it was some EUR to get in but included some nice stuff... |
| 10:30.27 | dc_ | e.g.? |
| 10:30.28 | florian | Well... thinking in this way is very unusual in germany too :-/ |
| 10:30.37 | dc_ | ahh |
| 10:31.07 | dc_ | brb, breakfast. |
| 10:31.17 | florian | At least a knoppix dvd :-) |
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| 10:41.05 | florian | brb |
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| 11:13.22 | lg | florian: hi |
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| 11:36.19 | florian | re |
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| 16:04.32 | florian | brb |
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| 16:18.40 | florian | bbl |
| 16:23.36 | dc_ | hrm |
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| 16:50.25 | florian | re |
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| 17:04.49 | dc_ | hum dedum.. |
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| 17:05.06 | dc_ | bah. my friends want a lan party tonight... |
| 17:10.15 | florian | hehe |
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| 17:27.18 | pb_ | re |
| 17:27.26 | dc_ | yo mr pb_ |
| 17:29.54 | pb_ | dc_: yo yo |
| 17:30.15 | pb_ | hey, how did your college thing go the other day? |
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| 17:31.38 | dc_ | not bad |
| 17:31.52 | dc_ | key skill'z' tests were a joke |
| 17:32.21 | pb_ | good-o. |
| 17:32.29 | dc_ | I had to read an excel sheet formula |
| 17:32.36 | pb_ | you have all the requisite ski11z then? |
| 17:32.47 | dc_ | yeah. |
| 17:32.52 | dc_ | which is good to know |
| 17:33.14 | pb_ | indeed, you must be very proud. |
| 17:33.59 | cmarqu_ | Hi all. |
| 17:34.10 | pb_ | Hi Colin |
| 17:34.16 | pb_ | not heard from you in a while! |
| 17:34.33 | cmarqu_ | Yeah, busy with looking for a job and so on. |
| 17:34.42 | dc_ | heh |
| 17:34.44 | pb_ | Oh, did you quit your job at Alcatel? |
| 17:35.46 | cmarqu_ | No, but it is pretty much clear that our department will be no more by then end of the year. |
| 17:35.58 | cmarqu_ | So I have time left luckily |
| 17:36.20 | pb_ | Ah, I see. Yes, at least it's good to know about these things in advance. |
| 17:36.43 | cmarqu_ | Indeed. |
| 17:37.11 | pb_ | Any luck finding a new job yet? |
| 17:37.35 | cmarqu_ | Not quite, I didn't really start yet, just prepared :) |
| 17:37.44 | nilsf | cmarqu_: Oh, sorry to hear this... is Timo also forced to leave? |
| 17:37.44 | pb_ | Ah, hehe |
| 17:38.11 | cmarqu_ | nilsf: Yeah. He seems to be safe by now though. |
| 17:38.29 | nilsf | cmarqu_: Means he has something new? |
| 17:38.56 | cmarqu_ | nilsf: Yes, it's just not signed yet, and of course, nobody is supposed to know :) |
| 17:39.02 | nilsf | :) |
| 17:39.16 | nilsf | Oh well... do you have an idea where to go? |
| 17:40.50 | cmarqu_ | Well, there is a contact to another interesting company in the area, handled via my boss, but I don't know too much about the kind of job they have to offer. |
| 17:41.33 | nilsf | What is/was the problem with your dept.? |
| 17:41.50 | cmarqu_ | That company has interesting embedded stuff, but I guess I would not be in that department, at least not initially. |
| 17:42.48 | cmarqu_ | nilsf: Lack of work basically, with asian countries taking over many design tasks. Plus they have other design centers elsewhere in Europe. |
| 17:43.33 | nilsf | Oh OK... too bad... but you are German engineers! Our German's are better than your's ;) |
| 17:43.46 | cmarqu_ | :) |
| 17:44.01 | nilsf | Does not seem to count much... |
| 17:45.06 | cmarqu_ | Just one time luckily. |
| 17:45.51 | pb_ | :-) |
| 17:46.32 | nilsf | cmarqu_: Scary, yes... support engineer or how those guys are called... tech-sales-droids rather... |
| 17:47.10 | cmarqu_ | nilsf: Oh, I mean more the interviews, these are scary enough. |
| 17:47.41 | nilsf | cmarqu_: Agreed, that's even worse... this one moment that counts for everything :( |
| 17:48.25 | cmarqu_ | Yup. I'm so bad at talking under that kind of pressure... |
| 17:48.42 | nilsf | Just smile and nod ;) |
| 17:48.50 | cmarqu_ | :) |
| 17:51.12 | cmarqu_ | BTW, doesn't somebody want to write a gpe-passwordsafe app which encrypts/decrypts files? I cannot even find one for the desktop... seahorse dropped that feature. |
| 17:51.47 | cmarqu_ | Ideally, it worked with GPG |
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| 17:54.12 | florian | cmarqu_: hi |
| 17:54.28 | cmarqu_ | Hi florian |
| 17:54.47 | florian | Sounds like a good idea, this wouldn't be that hard... |
| 17:55.54 | cmarqu_ | florian: It should just make sure to protect memory and not swap etc. The easy way with gpg and a regular text editor doesn't guarantee that. |
| 17:56.26 | florian | We have a gpgme package that provides an easy to use interface to gpg. |
| 17:57.58 | florian | cmarqu_: Yes, this is true - but gpg solves this in a way... |
| 17:59.06 | florian | This data stored inside the gui is an other problem that is basically a matter of careful coding i think. |
| 18:00.00 | cmarqu_ | gringotts is such an app and seems to have solved that, but it is not using GPG. |
| 18:02.22 | florian | never heared of this... i'll ask apt....:_) |
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| 18:22.57 | rycee_ | ll |
| 18:23.08 | rycee_ | Sorry, wrong window. |
| 18:39.03 | florian | cmarqu_: gringotts looks nice... |
| 18:43.32 | cmarqu_ | florian: Yeah, if only it used GPG... |
| 18:46.05 | florian | cmarqu_: Yep, but this is maybe not so hard to change |
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| 20:40.27 | florian_ | re |
| 20:41.24 | dc_ | hey |
| 20:53.15 | pb_ | florian_: wb |
| 20:53.52 | pb_ | hm, did anybody have any more ideas about when this gpe developer's meeting should be? |
| 20:55.30 | florian_ | i think mid/end of october sounds good. |
| 21:04.26 | dc_ | indeed. |
| 21:07.00 | florian_ | do we have a video conferencing solution that runs on an ipaq? |
| 21:12.35 | florian_ | hmm... myba i should think about video input first :-/ |
| 21:13.21 | dc_ | that would be cool. |
| 21:13.32 | dc_ | although, yeah, video input could be fun. |
| 21:14.04 | dc_ | maybe a usb webcam using pb_s' magical usb cf card. |
| 21:15.26 | cmarqu_ | pb_: I'm fine with mid/end October too. |
| 21:16.07 | florian_ | yep, really... but moving the ipaq around with a cam and wireless lan attached would be cool. |
| 21:18.34 | florian_ | hm yes, maybe the ov511 driver works :-) |
| 21:27.28 | dc_ | heh |
| 21:27.36 | dc_ | yeah, wifi as well will be interesting |
| 21:28.04 | florian_ | as a kind of mobile video phone :-) |
| 22:08.50 | pb_ | florian_: linphone reputedly works, though I haven't tried it myself. |
| 22:09.21 | florian_ | pb_: hmm... need to try this. |
| 22:09.35 | pb_ | florian_: if you use one of our usb cards, webcams won't currently work. we need a driver update to fix isochronous mode. |
| 22:10.22 | pb_ | however, this is just a small matter of programming as they say. Greg Kroah-Hartman has some updated bits that should help. |
| 22:10.25 | florian_ | pb_: ah, this would have been my next question :-) |
| 22:12.22 | florian_ | pb_: wuld be cool to have... |
| 22:13.46 | pb_ | florian_: yeah, unfortunately my copious spare time is even less copious than usual at the moment. |
| 22:14.31 | florian_ | pb_: yeah, this is bad :-/ |
| 22:16.07 | pb_ | I'll try to find an opportunity to work on it. Unfortunately, I don't have much chance to do ipaq-related things during the day at present because I am working at ARM. |
| 22:16.40 | florian_ | pb_: but, i think we'll be able to live wothout video on the ipaq for a while ;-) |
| 22:16.51 | pb_ | florian_: phew :-) |
| 22:16.53 | florian_ | s/wothout/without |
| 22:16.59 | florian_ | ;-) |
| 22:17.32 | florian_ | pb_: yep, ok - i see... |
| 22:20.13 | florian_ | oh well... time for a short rest... |
| 22:20.21 | pb_ | :-) |
| 22:22.19 | florian_ | pb_: good night |
| 22:23.13 | pb_ | florian_: night |
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| 22:25.57 | pb_ | dc_: wb |
| 22:26.09 | dc_ | indeed. |
| 22:26.19 | dc_ | silly satellite client doesn't like the modem reset. |
| 22:26.25 | pb_ | ah |
| 22:26.46 | dc_ | what have you been upto day? |
| 22:27.20 | __moray | hi dc_ |
| 22:27.29 | dc_ | __moray: hey mr |
| 22:27.54 | dc_ | I have been demoted to TextEdit for my programming now. |
| 22:27.58 | dc_ | :-/ |
| 22:28.04 | __moray | dc_: oh right, why's that? |
| 22:28.37 | dc_ | there are no gPHPEdit style apps for os x... |
| 22:28.45 | __moray | dc_: M-x psychoanalyze-pinhead was getting to you? |
| 22:28.47 | __moray | aha |
| 22:29.00 | dc_ | and I havn't really got time to try and compile it. |
| 22:29.08 | dc_ | indeed. I have emacs, but the font is anoying. |
| 22:29.18 | pb_ | dc_: not a great deal of interest. at arm most of the day; been poking at a few kernel 2.6 issues this evening. also cleaning my car in preparation for trying to sell it. |
| 22:29.29 | __moray | dc_: right. I tend to find that using Debian solves this problem ;) |
| 22:29.30 | dc_ | pb_: the mazda? |
| 22:29.34 | pb_ | you know the font in emacs can be changed, right? |
| 22:29.39 | pb_ | dc_: no, the renault. keeping the mazda. |
| 22:29.53 | dc_ | __moray: quite so. I'm searching for the time to do so. |
| 22:30.00 | dc_ | pb_: good good :-} |
| 22:30.39 | dc_ | all this aqua stuff is making me feel sea sick now. |
| 22:31.01 | pb_ | nasty. |
| 22:31.34 | dc_ | well, at least, my eyes are feeling pretty washed out. |
| 22:31.39 | dc_ | no pun intended. |
| 22:31.39 | dc_ | heh. |
| 22:32.47 | pb_ | heh |
| 22:33.30 | dc_ | pb_: we have to be carefull, you've infected me with constant use of the heh and doh phrases. |
| 22:33.44 | pb_ | oh dear |
| 22:33.52 | dc_ | coupled with out similar nick names. |
| 22:34.06 | pb_ | yes, I can see that confusion could easily arise |
| 22:36.56 | pigeon | :Q |
| 22:37.11 | pigeon | good morning pb_ dc_ __moray and all. |
| 22:37.15 | pb_ | hi pigeon |
| 22:37.24 | dc_ | morning pigeon ! |
| 22:37.32 | pigeon | dc kun! |
| 22:37.34 | dc_ | hato desu! |
| 22:37.56 | dc_ | sugoiii ne |
| 22:38.49 | dc_ | __moray: blah, it seems the airport extreme card uses a broadcom chip, so that kind of puts me off. |
| 22:39.32 | __moray | dc_: yes, the new PowerBooks don't support Linux as well as the older ones / the iBooks. |
| 22:39.41 | __moray | hi pigeon btw |
| 22:40.33 | pb_ | oh, that's unfortunate |
| 22:41.22 | dc_ | very |
| 22:41.38 | dc_ | fink it is then |
| 22:41.44 | pb_ | :-/ |
| 22:45.21 | dc_ | pb_: you've got a visitor it seems |
| 22:45.36 | pb_ | mm? |
| 22:45.46 | dc_ | #hh.org |
| 22:45.51 | pb_ | oh yes |
| 22:45.55 | pb_ | thanks :-) |
| 22:47.21 | __moray | hm, I don't think I'm on there just now. |
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| 22:47.47 | dc_ | oop, wrong button |
| 22:48.23 | pb_ | hate it when that happens |
| 22:56.59 | spung | pb_: in case you recall the problem i had yesterday, i worked around it by using gcc-3.2 although gcc-2.95 did work on the x86 box |
| 22:57.42 | pb_ | aha |
| 23:37.02 | dc_ | at least I can play music while using wifi on my laptop :] |
| 23:37.10 | pb_ | :-) |
| 23:37.12 | dc_ | hey mr spung |
| 23:37.14 | pb_ | was that a problem previous? |
| 23:37.29 | spung | yo mr dc |
| 23:37.40 | spung | what's up? |
| 23:37.51 | spung | did you get good grades? :) |
| 23:38.03 | dc_ | pb_: not on my laptop, but on my desktop, yes. |
| 23:38.06 | dc_ | spung: not bad. |
| 23:38.16 | dc_ | spung: 2c 6b |
| 23:38.32 | dc_ | spung: I've got into college at least :] |
| 23:39.15 | dc_ | spung: and you? did exams right? |
| 23:40.15 | spung | dc_: yeah, i'm with ~15 average but didn't do 2 courses out of 9 :/ |
| 23:41.24 | dc_ | heh |
| 23:42.34 | spung | well, i'm going to go karting tomorrow morning, i'm off to bed |
| 23:42.35 | spung | cya |
| 23:43.06 | __moray | night spung |
| 23:43.40 | dc_ | right |
| 23:43.41 | dc_ | night |
| 23:59.35 | pb_ | g'night |